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Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray facing pressure Connor to the five and end

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Speaker 1: he said, touchdown. The latest news and notes from the

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Speaker 1: insiders who cover the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray that defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 3: All that was nasty right there?

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Speaker 2: Rights slamming the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 3: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: You know, it seems like what just a few weeks

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Speaker 2: ago we were talking about the malacious haboob Do come

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Speaker 2: through the Phoenix area. Right, Probably because it was just

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Speaker 2: a few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Ago, that's gonna say.

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Speaker 4: That's when I got strained in grocery store because you

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Speaker 4: told me I was good to drive.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 2: It was in sync with the Thursday night football and

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Speaker 2: the whole rivalry uniforms. You know, in the sandstorm, the

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Speaker 2: dust storm got recreated in the stadium. Are we on

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Speaker 2: too short notice for stadium operations to maybe recreate a microburst?

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Speaker 4: I didn't even know what that was before Monday. I'd

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Speaker 4: never heard of that before those.

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Speaker 3: Of us who live in Tempee. I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 3: I drove home into my neighborhood, and on one end

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Speaker 3: into my neighborhood, and that spot particularly I drove down,

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Speaker 3: I saw, I saw much worse video than this. But

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Speaker 3: when I first turned in, there was all these trees down.

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Speaker 3: There was one major tree that had taken down a

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Speaker 3: concrete wall, and I'm like, oh god, oh God, oh god.

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Speaker 3: I do not want to drive up to my house

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Speaker 3: and have something happen. But fortunately apparently didn't get over there.

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Speaker 2: Can I say microburst is the exact football forecast the

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Speaker 2: Cardinals need?

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Speaker 3: Okay, about a.

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Speaker 2: Flurry of football Week seven against the Packers, right timber

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Speaker 2: down go the Packers something like that. You know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, She's everywhere, cheese heads everywhere, you know, just

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Speaker 2: just just a statement, you know, it's sort of like

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Speaker 2: the like the weather gods just made a statement with

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Speaker 2: that twenty minute micro burst. You know, Cardinals come out there,

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Speaker 2: four quarters of micro burst football and just sort of

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Speaker 2: wipe everything away and reset going into the by I'm

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Speaker 2: okay with that? How about that?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Maybe you know, maybe can they get a video like

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Speaker 2: on the scoreboard, like the Packers team bus trying to

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Speaker 2: cross like a wash you know what I mean, like

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Speaker 2: a flooded wash and ah the Packers team bus gets

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Speaker 2: swept away or something like that. You know, simulate something up.

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Speaker 2: Darren's not with me on.

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Speaker 3: That, I know, I I mean you you have a

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Speaker 3: straight line to our boss, Surf.

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Speaker 2: You can ask us, right'll just be another video request

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Speaker 2: another than a long line of I'll just throw it

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Speaker 2: out there in two days. Notice, all right, here we go,

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Speaker 2: Cardinals underground, Paul KELVC Danny Surrec Darren Urban Danny, how

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Speaker 2: are you mentally? How are the nerves? Four straight game

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Speaker 2: comes down to the final seconds, the final few plays,

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Speaker 2: and now it's that was your largest margin of defeat

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Speaker 2: by the way, four points. Four games decided by a

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Speaker 2: total of nine points.

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Speaker 4: Hearing that four games decided by nine total points makes

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Speaker 4: you believe when head coach Johnathan Gannon says his team

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Speaker 4: is close, they are close. They are just one play

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Speaker 4: away from turning those losses into wins. It's frustrating. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you're down on the field too, Paul. I'm down there

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Speaker 4: at the end of the game when the Cardinals are

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Speaker 4: making a push in Indianapolis and they're driving the ball

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Speaker 4: down the field, They're scoring throughout all four quarters, which

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Speaker 4: is not something we've seen from this offense really all season,

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Speaker 4: and then you have that final play and tighten Treymy

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Speaker 4: Brian in the end zone is visibly upset. He's livid

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Speaker 4: he doesn't get that holding call. The Cardinals were just

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Speaker 4: one play away from getting that win in Indianapolis. It's frustrating.

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Speaker 4: There are positives to take away, which we will go

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, there's no moral victories.

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Speaker 2: Look, you got to decide is this who you are

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Speaker 2: as a team? Are you more than this? Jacksonville a

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Speaker 2: year ago went three and ten in one score games,

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Speaker 2: whereas Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City won seventeen straight over

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Speaker 2: more the norm than the exception in the NFL one score.

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Speaker 3: Games, especially this year, feels like, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Know, they just just saw some story AP threw up

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Speaker 2: there about how you know how the whole season is tracking.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got Baltimore at one in five, right,

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Speaker 2: Buffalo and Philadelphia started four to zho Now they've lost

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Speaker 2: too straight. Case started out all awry. Now they just

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Speaker 2: beat the Lions. They even their record. So it's just

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Speaker 2: a reminder that in the NFL, a season can be

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Speaker 2: more than one season. Not to go all Polly pontificate

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Speaker 2: if you will here, okay, but it can be more

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Speaker 2: than one season in a single season, meaning you start

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Speaker 2: out as one team, you become another sort of team.

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Speaker 2: Maybe by the end of the year you're yet you've

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Speaker 2: evolved and morphed into a different iteration, sometimes because of injury.

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Speaker 2: I mean, are the Cardinals the same offense minus James Connor?

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Speaker 2: Are they the same run game? Do they have the

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Speaker 2: same mentality, the same DNA minus James Connor and then

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Speaker 2: Trey Benson. No, they don't have the same run game efficiency.

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Speaker 2: But they're not going to get any sympathy from anyone else.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at the Niners, stink and lost Fred

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Speaker 2: Warner on top everyone else. So you do. It's one season,

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Speaker 2: but within that season, you can be a different team

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Speaker 4: That's almost the beauty of it to be two and

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Speaker 4: four right now. If the Cardinals beat the Packers, three

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Speaker 4: and four, not where you ideally want to be going

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Speaker 4: into the bye week, but then you're just one game

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Speaker 4: back from five hundred and you can still turn things

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, whenever I've talked to Rabbit Taylor Demerson

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Speaker 3: of him, and normally that's the cliche. But in the

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Speaker 3: league that we're talking about right now, I mean, so

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Speaker 3: many of these teams that had hot starts are no

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Speaker 3: right now, I would probably put the Chiefs number one

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Speaker 3: change now does that mean this team is all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden going to start winning one score games that

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Speaker 3: it hasn't. I'm not willing to say that because they've

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Speaker 3: got to it, but they know they have to prove it.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, like, can you see a

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Speaker 3: And if that's true, then you do have There are

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Speaker 3: fascinating to see kind of how this plays out and

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Speaker 3: what this game looks like. And I do feel like

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Speaker 3: it feels like this Packers game. The Colts game was huge.

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Speaker 3: It would have been a big deal to be three

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Speaker 3: and three. But if you can somehow get a win

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Speaker 3: and be three and four going into your by, you know,

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Speaker 3: things change. And I'm not saying that that's going to

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Speaker 3: be a guarantee. The Packers are a good team all

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Speaker 3: that stuff, but I'm not putting anything past anyone anymore.

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Speaker 2: And we can talk all we want about quarterback, and

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Speaker 2: we will, but if you don't figure out find a

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Speaker 2: way to finish, doesn't matter who the quarterback is. And

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Speaker 2: so I know this is the question of the season.

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Speaker 2: So far, But anybody care to define the formula for

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Speaker 2: finishing what is missing? You know, if the players and

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Speaker 2: coaches know they're not sharing it with us media types.

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Speaker 2: So I'll put the question to you, guys, what is

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny you bring that up about like

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Speaker 3: if the coaches and players know they're not sharing it,

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Speaker 3: if the coaches and players knew they would fix it'd

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Speaker 3: be like I've never understood somebody asked me a very

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Speaker 3: general question about like, okay, enough you've been around this.

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Speaker 3: I'm not looking for opinion. I'm just looking for facts.

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Speaker 3: What would it take for Gannon to make this a

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Speaker 3: winning franchise? I'm like, well, Jonathan Gannon's not sitting up

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Speaker 3: in his office ignoring that question. MANI awesome, for it

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Speaker 3: is trying to make it a winning franchise. The players

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Speaker 3: are trying to do it. That doesn't It's like anything

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Speaker 3: else in the world. I mean, first of all, unlike

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Speaker 3: But unlike most jobs, their job is it has so

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Speaker 3: many more variables in it because other people's jobs are

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Speaker 3: can do certain things, but like as we've all seen before,

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Speaker 3: the cliche, well, the other guy gets paid to Like,

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Speaker 3: way back, like, it's not like they're not trying to

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Speaker 3: win and get I absolutely get the frustration. I get

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Speaker 3: the frustration. But there's take the Tray McBride play. You

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Speaker 3: guys were down on the field. I was down in

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Speaker 3: I saw it. It was coming right at me, and

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Speaker 3: my first thoughts, Oh, they get a flag, and then

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Speaker 3: they didn't.

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Speaker 2: And it's the NBA.

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Speaker 3: If it was, if it was the second quarter.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna swallow the whistle at the very end. It's

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Speaker 3: And I will say this, and I'm not putting a

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Speaker 3: blame on anybody. If Brissette's passes closer, they might throw

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Speaker 3: that flag, But unfortunately Jacobe's throw was way wide. I'm

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Speaker 3: not even so sure if Trey McBride hadn't been grabbed,

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Speaker 3: he was getting to it. So all these things play

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Speaker 3: into it. And look, they're trying to win. I know

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Speaker 3: that doesn't make anybody feel better or feel better about

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Speaker 3: what they've spent or all that stuff. And I'm cool

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Speaker 3: with everybody being frustrated. But this again, and I've had

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Speaker 3: this happen many times in my twenty five years when

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Speaker 3: things aren't going well, this idea that the players and

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Speaker 3: coaches aren't trying to win because of whatever I never understood.

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Speaker 4: It truly comes down to execution. Offensively, that's what you

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Speaker 4: need going down the stretch, and defensively, you can't get

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Speaker 4: worn out. You cannot allow fatigue to get in the

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Speaker 4: way of technique and execution. What's frustrating is prior to

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Speaker 4: the Colts loss, the previous three were all losses by

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Speaker 3: Which I'm sure there's some fans out there going, yeah,

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Speaker 2: But Kalaias Campbell did play a season high and snap percentage.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's vexing when you only got Indianapolis into

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Speaker 3: So one of the ways they only played so many snaps.

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Speaker 3: Enough, you're not using the magic fix one for field

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Speaker 2: We did. We did, that's right, So I'm bringing this

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Speaker 2: back and then run game. That's right. This all started

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Speaker 2: the downfield passing, and you guys look like you're in

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Speaker 2: no antiox you know what I mean. It's just there.

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Speaker 2: It's just you're seeing wherever the progression and the read

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Speaker 4: I don't love the hot take, Paul. Haven't we spent

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Speaker 2: That's sort of my point. I'm reverse engineering it that

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Speaker 4: For I think you're rest relation.

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Speaker 2: Reversing my opinion that that more try McBride. No, the

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Speaker 4: No, because we had spent weeks saying why is Harrison old?

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Speaker 4: but but that that was the storyline. Look, it hurt

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Speaker 4: a quarterback who looked very calm under pressure. Brissette stayed

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Speaker 4: It was a good game, and it was nice to

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Speaker 4: see this offense get rolling. They had seven plays of

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Speaker 2: Sorry, that bolsters my point, by the way, doesn't it, Darren?

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Speaker 2: Six different receivers freaking hard twenty plus yards a piece organic?

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Speaker 3: Yeahhead, maybe you just need more cow bell, Like Zay

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Speaker 3: I just look, I it's funny that you bring that up, Paul,

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Speaker 2: Because he sees playing so well, that's what everybody's thinking.

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Speaker 2: We got to get eighteen involved. But so maybe when

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Speaker 2: All the receivers said it, here's the problem, drewre I

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Speaker 3: I never recall Paul Calvic coming on Cardinals Underground and saying,

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Speaker 2: But but with fits was the past game ever struggling

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Speaker 4: That we got to the point of implying that the

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Speaker 2: No, I'm saying. I'm not saying five. I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: That's not what has been happening, though he had. He

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Speaker 3: I will say that however they got there. To me,

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Speaker 3: And I'm not sitting here and dismissing people that had

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Speaker 4: But I actually never said that.

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Speaker 4: There was a couple of multiple times when you have

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Speaker 3: And I will say, I'm going to give Paul some props.

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Speaker 3: No, And I agree with that, and he did a

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Speaker 4: half the game. You were without your number one receiver.

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Speaker 4: You are now without your two top blocking tight ends,

437
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Speaker 4: and it was the first time those five offensive linemen

438
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 4: had played together since the first quarter in Buffalo Week

439
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 4: one last year. Again, there are no moral victories, but

440
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 4: this team showed up when they needed to in terms

441
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Speaker 4: of when your number is called upon, you go out

442
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Speaker 4: and you make plays.

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Speaker 2: By the way, as I explained to young Zach, that

444
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: play on the sideline the second and sixteen where Brissette's

445
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: being dragged down and he gets the ball to Elijah

446
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 2: Higgins and then he trucks a couple of dudes. The

447
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: sideline was never more lit, hype or turned at that moment.

448
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, unfortunately for Zach, Gershman mentioned the cowboyll earlier,

449
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: he didn't have he had no idea about, and which

450
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Speaker 3: was what was bad about it is. I went and

451
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 3: then canvassed some other youngs, Tanner and Maggie in the

452
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Speaker 3: media relations department, and they not only knew it, but

453
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Speaker 3: like they had seen, they knew everything about it.

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Speaker 4: So Zach is just maybe he was just sheltered.

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Speaker 2: So that's on, Zach. Okay, that's good. Just want to

456
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Speaker 2: know are.

457
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Speaker 4: Using some words? Are you getting are you culturing us today?

458
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Speaker 4: Paul Well the use of lit in terms.

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Speaker 2: We can always get better. In fact, let's get cultured. Uh,

460
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Speaker 2: Danny will segue.

461
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Speaker 4: To you getting cultured with Danny. It is not just

462
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Speaker 4: directed at.

463
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Speaker 2: Paul am I the depault uncultured philistine around here.

464
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Speaker 3: Yes, he got me very excited.

465
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 4: Now I am on social media and consume more pop

466
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Speaker 4: culture than both of you combined.

467
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Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, what go?

468
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Speaker 4: Starting off with some sad news, rest in peace to

469
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Speaker 4: the delicious Chili Skillet Caso. It is normal are Chili's

470
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 4: has rolled out a Southwest caso supposedly due to low sales.

471
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 4: I highly doubt that people are not happy about it.

472
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 4: It looks really watery, so you can no longer get

473
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 4: the classic skillet or the white Skillet Caso at Chili's.

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Speaker 2: I see.

475
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Speaker 3: There are so many questions started ask you sure sound

476
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Speaker 3: like you are experienced in the caso skillet.

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Speaker 4: I would say that I am true or false.

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Speaker 2: You are on the Chili's rewards program, You're a frequent customer?

479
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 4: False? I love it, but I wouldn't say I'm frequent.

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00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 4: You know, Caitlin Aps our team photographer when we go

481
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 4: to Chili's that that's her order is the skill at caso.

482
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Speaker 4: I don't know what she's going.

483
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Speaker 2: To be moving forward, because if she is a rewards member,

484
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Speaker 2: she gets like the free chips and salsa or whatever

485
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Speaker 2: you put that into the little thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well I did see online a funny TikTok

487
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Speaker 4: of someone when you because I kind of this is

488
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Speaker 4: a boomer take. I do think it's kind of a

489
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Speaker 4: bummer when you pay all by yourself at the table

490
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Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, you just do it all

491
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Speaker 4: on the little screen, like you've no interaction. You're you're

492
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Speaker 4: tipping someone who's not even really waiting on you anymore.

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Speaker 4: Not the I saw a video on TikTok of someone

494
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 4: leaving a comment when he was paying on one of

495
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Speaker 4: those talking about how they have to bring the QESO back.

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Speaker 2: It's not a boomer take. It's a COVID take. That's

497
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Speaker 2: what happened during COVID. Yes, you know they never adapted. Yes,

498
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: look they probably still have like a three or six

499
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Speaker 2: percent surcharge because of COVID at the bottom of the

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Speaker 2: bill as well.

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Speaker 4: We talked about this all in person. I couldn't have

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00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 4: our first getting cultured without it, though true. Rest in

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Speaker 4: peace to Diane Keene, who passed away last week and

504
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Speaker 4: at the age of seventy nine.

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Speaker 2: Annie Hall classic, absolute classic, Father of the Bride.

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Speaker 4: I think is probably the first movie I saw with

507
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Speaker 4: her as a kid.

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Speaker 2: No, she was phenomenal, no doubt.

509
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 4: Yes, and last, but not least, we are once again

510
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Speaker 4: moving on to the Bay Bay area, half Moon Bay.

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Speaker 2: Paul, he's pumpkins Halloween. It's the Halloween.

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Speaker 4: Yes, did you take a peek at my paper?

513
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Speaker 2: And everybody knows half Moon Bay and pumpkins.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, half Moon Bay does have an annual pumpkin

515
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Speaker 4: weighing contest. Did you see how much the jack lantern

516
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 4: winner weighed this year?

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Speaker 2: Let me guess here, nineteen ninety five. I'm coming off.

518
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to say half a ton. I'll

519
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Speaker 2: guess one eighteen pounds.

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Speaker 4: Way low. The winner weighed two thousand and three hundred

521
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Speaker 4: and forty six pounds. The winner was the runner up

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00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 4: last year, so bravo to him. He's an engineer, a

523
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Speaker 4: big time gardener in his free time. So he says

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Speaker 4: it took precise sunlight and watering. He took him twenty

525
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Speaker 4: thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a lot of fertilizer.

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Speaker 3: How much How much did you have to spend to

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Speaker 3: get it to the place.

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Speaker 4: That's a good question.

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Speaker 2: Do they test for peds and pumpkin growing?

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Speaker 4: Because you know, I could be more than two thousand.

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Speaker 2: You know what was in the fertilizer? That's what I

533
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Speaker 2: want to know.

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Speaker 4: Something nuclear, classic, bear, keep and cultured.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: Really, okay, we did Wait a minute, did we just

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Speaker 2: get slandered somehow did the NorCal get slandered? Because I

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Speaker 2: see not yet? Find something else a little bit later. Okay,

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00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: pumpkin lattes, Yeah or nay, I'll drink it same, absolutely not, no,

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Speaker 2: no chance. Okay, where are we here? Defense? Okay, peds?

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Speaker 2: The D and PED stands for defense. That's my segue.

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Speaker 2: Didn't work, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: That's a scary segue. We need to cancel all that out.

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Speaker 3: Let's start again.

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Speaker 2: So the first three quarters is I ignore that as well.

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Speaker 2: The first three quarters your number two in defensive efficiency

547
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: whatever analytic that is that's out there, and then in

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Speaker 2: the last quarter your second to last. Somebody please help

549
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Speaker 2: me understand, explain, diagnose, because you've got a Green Bay

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Speaker 2: team coming in that put on an offensive display. Last

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Speaker 2: year at Lambeau. They got up twenty four to nothing

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00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: in that game Cardinals and made the game twenty four

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Speaker 2: to thirteen. That was also the game where you had

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Speaker 2: thirteen penalties, remember when the Cardinals were the least penalized

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Speaker 2: team in the league. And then the very next game

556
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: thirteen flags fishy, fishy, not just Danny's barb last year

557
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Speaker 2: for the concussion that in the as and the picks,

558
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Speaker 2: but it was sort of like, wait a minute, did

559
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Speaker 2: the officials actually come in trying to make a statement,

560
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Speaker 2: We've got your least penalized team in the league right here.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen flags later, guess what Cardinals had a loss of lambo.

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Speaker 4: I think we're just pass the point of conspiracy.

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Speaker 5: They he's never he's never, never, No, you can always

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Speaker 5: bring it up again.

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Speaker 3: He's got conspiracy theories for like the two thousand and

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Speaker 3: two seasons.

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Speaker 2: So you get Mala Floor coming in. Guess what. He's

568
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Speaker 2: got a run game in Josh Jacobs. He's got an

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Speaker 2: experienced mobile quarterback in Jordan Love who had four count

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Speaker 2: of four touchdown passes against Cardinals last year at home.

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Speaker 2: Now they're coming into the az They've also added speed

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Speaker 2: with Matthew Golden coming off his best game as a rookie,

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Speaker 2: mister four two nine first round pick out of Texas.

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Speaker 4: Tucker Craft.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they've got their own eighty five at tight end.

576
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Speaker 2: So and I think Tucker Craft, I don't have it

577
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Speaker 2: in front of me, has the second most touchdown reception

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Speaker 2: since the beginning of last year, second only to Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, although, okay, the first drive terrible against Tyler Warren,

580
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Speaker 3: but I didn't think Tyler Warren really was big.

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Speaker 4: And how Tyler Warren was used for the Colts offense

582
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Speaker 4: from first half to the second half.

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Speaker 3: I'll say that defensively. Again, the coaches aren't announcing anything

584
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Speaker 3: you mentioned. Gannon had talked about how he thought the

585
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: pass rush was pretty good against the Colts, but it

586
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: wasn't married up with the back end. You know, there

587
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Speaker 3: were there were a couple of things that I don't

588
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 3: think the defense can miss chances like the ball that

589
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: was right in Buddha Baker's hands that he didn't pick off.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you just get one of these games

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Speaker 3: where they lost in a field goal and get that

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00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: stop when you needed it, I know, I know it's

593
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Speaker 3: popped up a bunch of times about the punts that

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals aren't forcing in the fourth quarter. But our

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Speaker 3: Craig Greeley looked something up. And again I'm not dismissing

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Speaker 3: the fact that the Cardinals defense needs to play better

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Speaker 3: in fourth quarter. They do, but it's not like every

598
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: possession in the fourth quarter has gone for a score.

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00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: There's been a couple of interceptions the Cardinals had, a

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Speaker 3: couple times, they've forced turnovers on downs. There's been a

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Speaker 3: misfield goal, the Cardinals got a safety. So like on

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00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: some of those possessions, they have gotten stops. It's just

603
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: not enough and it's not at the right time. And again,

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00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: we wouldn't be talking nearly about this if they had

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Speaker 3: gotten maybe that last stop in San Francisco or been

606
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: able to go to overtime against Seattle. And again, horseshoes

607
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: and hand grenades and being close and all that, but

608
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: still it's.

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Speaker 2: Like, is this who you are as a defense? Again,

610
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Speaker 2: it's it's off to the full circle. I mean, you

611
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: can have more than one season within a season, So

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Speaker 2: this is how you started the season as a defense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's remarkable according to what I'm looking at here,

614
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: the Cardinals point differential as a defense in the fourth

615
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: quarter is negative thirty six. You're talking about a top

616
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Speaker 2: five scoring defense most of this year, So the first

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Speaker 2: three quarters versus the fourth quarter, it's radically different. Why

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Speaker 2: is it tempo? Is it now? Nolan's used a lot

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Speaker 2: of tempo the entirety of the game. Is it other

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Speaker 2: teams getting into tempo in the fourth quarter and you

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Speaker 2: struggle that per se. I don't know, but I'm guessing

622
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Speaker 2: starting as soon as possible, but really being accentuated in

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Speaker 2: the bye week, You're gonna do a lot of self

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Speaker 2: scouting if you're Nick Rowlis in that defensive staff during

625
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: the bye as to what's going on in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: Cardinals were also without some of their defensive linemen that

627
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Speaker 4: they could have used. Running Back Jonathan Taylor is one

628
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Speaker 4: of the best in the leagues, but he is the

629
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Speaker 4: best in terms of forcing mistackles and yards after those

630
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 4: forced miss tackles. You were without Balon Nichols. He didn't

631
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Speaker 4: play for personal reasons. Rookie defensive lineman Walter Nole in

632
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: the third remains zump up. He wasn't available. Darius Robinson

633
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: didn't play because he's got a chest injury. Justin Jones

634
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: hasn't made his return. This defense has done a nice

635
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 4: job throughout the season. Those are the moments, though, where

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00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: you really miss some of those players that you were

637
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: expecting to be able to rely on and partially built

638
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 4: your team around.

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Speaker 3: I agree, but I will say that again, like if

640
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 3: it was big picture and this defense was getting run

641
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: over regularly, I would have more The issue that the

642
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: Cardinals have now is because because they played all these

643
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: close games. You it's to me, it's not necessarily the

644
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: overall what you're doing. It's it's the ability to come

645
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: up with that one stop when you need it. You

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Speaker 3: know against the Colts, that really kind of resonated with

647
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: me is the offense, which you want to have more consistency,

648
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: had that consistency and they gave them the lead twice

649
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, correct if I recall her, at

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Speaker 3: least once late in the third quarter and then early

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Speaker 3: in the fourth.

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Speaker 2: You entered the fourth quarter up twenty four to seventeen, okay,

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Speaker 2: and so and then you went up twenty seven to

654
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Speaker 2: twenty four.

655
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Speaker 3: So like twice you had the lead, and you want

656
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Speaker 3: to give your offense, who is playing pretty well a

657
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: chance to build on that lead, and both times the

658
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: defense allowed points to put the Cardinals back in a

659
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Speaker 3: position where they had to score. It would have been

660
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: nice to get at least one of those stops and

661
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: see if the offense could then balloon the lead more

662
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: so that maybe you had a little bit more elbow room.

663
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: Is a defense to.

664
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Speaker 4: Not It's not tip for tad, it's not just pointing fingers.

665
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: Same can be true for the offense. Linebacker MacWilson Senior

666
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 4: had a very athletic interception and the Cardinals offense drives

667
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: it down and it's a red zone interception. Forsett On

668
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: that following drive, you have to put points on the

669
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Speaker 4: board from a force turnover from the defense.

670
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Speaker 3: It's funny you bring that up because the first thing

671
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Speaker 3: I think of is there are people that are still

672
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Speaker 3: angry about when Jonathan Gannon said about the Amari de

673
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: Mercado drop against the Titans, that one play doesn't change

674
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: the game like that, or doesn't lose the game? Right,

675
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: not change the game, because it did change the game,

676
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: but doesn't lose the game. And that's the thing. If

677
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: you're going to play one score games, I one percent

678
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: agree with that one play doesn't lose the game because

679
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Speaker 3: of what you just said, Like there there are so

680
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: many things that go into it. Now there are there

681
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: are plays that can change a game. But even like

682
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: the Brissette interception happened so early and again they took

683
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: the lead a couple times late, like that was to me,

684
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: that's washed away by then, and you know, and the

685
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: Colts could have been doing the same thing. If the

686
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: Cardinals have gone down and made that completion to McBride

687
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: to score the touchdown. Their whole narrative this whole week

688
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: was man, our defense couldn't get one freaking stop. Our

689
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: offense is still playing great. We couldn't get one stop.

690
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: But that's the league. You know.

691
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Speaker 2: Do you pull a Costanza? Do you do the opposite

692
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Speaker 2: of what you've been doing? Do you bring zero if

693
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Speaker 2: you're in another tight game against Jordan Love and Matt

694
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: Lafleur and the Packers, do you do you bring zero?

695
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: One more pass rusher than they have blockers? You know?

696
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: Do you sort of change your mo and what you

697
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: put on films? So far, there's no doubt that Shane

698
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: Steichen had some confidence to open the game. He won

699
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: the toss and kept the football and then went right

700
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: down the field. So whatever, true, whatever he scripted, he

701
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: had a lot of confidence in and guess what, it

702
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: was warranted because they hit the end zone.

703
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: True. But I will say also I think that helped

704
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 3: the Cardinals because I think think getting the ball to

705
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: start the second half and driving for their own touchdown

706
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: changed how they felt about things.

707
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: It was well, the key was they adjusted defensively two two,

708
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: three and outs and then the pick like Danny sided.

709
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think you know not to like jumped

710
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: side of the ball. But it's interesting, and that's why

711
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: that's why the quarterback thing has been brought up, because

712
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: we are talking about how the offense was successful as

713
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: opposed to the defense, and it's it's interesting. Not that

714
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Speaker 3: we're going to spend a lot of time on it,

715
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: but obviously Jonathan Gannon has made clear that when Kyler

716
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 3: Murray is healthy, he's going to be the quarterback. And

717
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: the question then becomes, this week, is he going to

718
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: be healthy enough? I mean, when you're talking about it

719
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: was reported that it was something like a Liz Frank's injury,

720
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Speaker 3: which the times that I've been around those those have

721
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 3: been fairly long term. So I'm very curious to see

722
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Speaker 3: not only if he's going to be available this week,

723
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Speaker 3: but what it looks like like going into Dallas after

724
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 3: the buye.

725
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Speaker 4: Two things can be true. Jacoby Burssett had a good game.

726
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: Cardinals offense had a good game. Kyler Murray is still

727
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 4: going to be the starting quarterback when he's healthy. Kyler

728
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 4: Murray is still the franchise quarterback. There's a reason that

729
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 4: after ten years in the league, Burssett is the backup

730
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: quarterback and Murray's the starter. And if you look at

731
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: the stats and you compare them, Murray's the better quarterback.

732
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Speaker 4: Doesn't mean Burnett's not a good quarterback, doesn't mean he

733
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 4: did not play well, doesn't mean he's not a good

734
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: fit for this Cardinals offense. It doesn't have to be

735
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Speaker 4: a discussion every time a backup quarterback has a good game,

736
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Speaker 4: because this is what you want. You want to have

737
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 4: a backup quarterback that you can trust to go in

738
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 4: and lead your team to success. And yes, the Cardinals

739
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 4: didn't walk away with a win, but they had a

740
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: lot of good things and the quarterback played well. That's

741
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 4: what you want in a backup quarterback.

742
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Speaker 3: And let me throw that this will be the last

743
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: thing I say on it, which is basically, I understand

744
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: the people out there who are talking about what might

745
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 3: happen here, and I totally get it. And let's face it,

746
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: some of the conversation has not come up just now

747
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 3: for some of these people. But there's one thing I

748
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: know for sure over these last number of years, which

749
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: is the quarterback, the starting quarterback, Kyler Murray engenders a

750
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: lot of strong feelings, both pro and con and it

751
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: just always has been and he probably always will. And

752
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: there's players like that around the league. I mean, we

753
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 3: saw it with Kevin Durant in basketball. There's players all

754
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: over in all sports that and he just happens to

755
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: be one of those guys. And I don't think that's

756
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 3: ever going to change.

757
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Speaker 4: It's just it's it's also I think a little bit

758
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 4: of recency bias. Right again, not a knock on josh Doabbs,

759
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: but when Joshabbs was here, right, played really well at

760
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 4: the beginning, and then things kind of fell off right

761
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 4: before the Cardinals trade him in Minnesota.

762
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Speaker 2: Right, Well, they're just there're two radically different type of quarterbacks,

763
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: two totally different skill sets, you know. And Darren once

764
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: again going back to early bird. What did we talk about?

765
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 3: I don't remember us five thirty in the morning.

766
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: It was Carson Palmer comparison, he's six four sixty five.

767
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brier said, he's gonna hang in the pocket. The

768
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: pocket's gonna collapse. He's gonna hang in. You're gonna see

769
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: the arm come out. He's gonna wait till the very

770
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 2: last minute. But do you see Baker Mayfield doing a

771
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: lot of that at his size. No, And he might

772
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: be the MVP of the league. So it's just it's

773
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: a different style of quarterback. And Dan, you know I

774
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: said this on Monday with Craig Griolo. There you are

775
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: at the nine yard line, second goal or second and

776
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: seven from the nine, third and seven from the nine,

777
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: fourth and seven from the nine, and what would have

778
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: been really nice to have a quarterback who runs a

779
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: four to three. You roll him out a little bit

780
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: and then if he's one on one with a backer

781
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: or someone, oh you know what, he gone, and he

782
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: takes off to the pielone and there's your game.

783
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 4: When he touched down, Darren, why don't you share your

784
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 4: question for Offriends of Corney Drew Petsy at his press

785
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 4: conference Tuesday.

786
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: Oh, I I just asked Drew that, you know, I said,

787
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: obviously you're going to ask these quarterbacks what they like

788
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: and and that this has been something that offensive coordinators

789
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: have talked about the whole time we've been here. Paul,

790
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: You've been around guys, and it's like you talk to

791
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: the quarterback and you find out what they like, and

792
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: you find out what they're comfortable with. And that's that's

793
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: what happens. That's part of the planning every week. And

794
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: Drew Petson said yes, and then it also has to

795
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: do in his opinion, a little bit more without what

796
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: the defense you're facing and what makes sense within the context.

797
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: But I follow it up by basically saying, you know

798
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: how these things are changing. And what Drew Petsing said

799
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: was overall, I don't think what we it was based

800
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: enough on what the Colts were doing. I don't think

801
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: our game plan would have been that much different regardless

802
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: of whether Kyler or Jacoby were set with a quarterback's

803
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: that's what the offensive coordinator said.

804
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: Well, Jacoby said after the game about Drew pets and

805
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 2: he and I'm looking at the quote here, Drew, I

806
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: felt my rhythm, I felt his rhythm in the play calling.

807
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 2: I was seeing it while I came to the sideline.

808
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: It was either Keaton or Kyler said, I know you

809
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: can see it. You can tell you can see it,

810
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: and so last week I saw it fairly.

811
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: Well, you did, and you celebrated.

812
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: But it's a week to week business, so you're only

813
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: as good as your most recent wise Guy.

814
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: It's time for the wise Guy, the world's fastest growing

815
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: cardinals quiz show. The stakes are low, the winner gets

816
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with the mostess, Denny's the right, Paul.

817
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: You got a comment on our YouTube channel on the

818
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 4: episode last week of someone saying how much he loved

819
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: watching the underdog get a win.

820
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: Everybody pulls for the underdog. I'm a sucker for the

821
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: underdog movies. You know, any underdog movie. It can be

822
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: cheesy as all get out, and I'm still sucked in.

823
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 4: You have two wins this year? Are you still considered

824
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 4: the underdog if you won last week?

825
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, do I really have two wins? I

826
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 2: thought when was my six?

827
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Speaker 3: There's been six?

828
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, here we go once again. There can

829
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Speaker 2: be more seasons in one season than just one season.

830
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Speaker 4: So Paul, you get first pig of the questions.

831
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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, have that feels kind underprepared for that?

832
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 3: You know, prepared because it doesn't change every single.

833
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: Time, coming off break, coming off his interception number two,

834
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Speaker 2: number two, number two.

835
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Speaker 4: It is this former Packers and Cardinals player served in

836
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Speaker 4: the Idaho Army National Guard, where he flew on UH

837
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Speaker 4: sixty Blackhawk helicopter missions during a deployment to Afghanistan.

838
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: Cardinals and Packers player deployed to Afghanistan? Was there any

839
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: mention of the era here? And was there any did

840
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Speaker 2: you skip over any portion of the question, Danny, I

841
00:40:50,560 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: did not. Okay, let's see here, Uh, Jake Anrahan.

842
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: Is it Darren College?

843
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: It is no way Darren College. Isn't he too big

844
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: for the military? I can even fit an helicopter.

845
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: You know those guide up losing all that weight.

846
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Speaker 2: Did you ask where he's from North Paul, Alaska? I

847
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: would answer that one. Dang it.

848
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna go number one.

849
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Speaker 4: Paul. It's okay, You're you are comfortable in the underdog position.

850
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: One of these times, Jake Anerhan is going to be

851
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: the right answer.

852
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: I actually got threatened by Darren College once it was

853
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 2: on the TV, and well, we did the Big Red Rage,

854
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: so we knew each other pretty well. I think he

855
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: was half choking, but our photographer had framed the postgame

856
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: interview a little too wide and kind of had him

857
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: from the waist up when he thought it was going

858
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: to be neck up and he didn't have a shirt on.

859
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: And his wife didn't appreciate seeing her husband on the

860
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: evening news with that, and I didn't know they ran it,

861
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: and uh anyway, uh Darren Yan.

862
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: Question one, there are three players with the first name

863
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 4: Paris and cardinal franchise history. Can you name them all? Hint?

864
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 4: One play for the one played defense for the Packers

865
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 4: from two thousand and two to two thousand and five.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Paris Johnson Junior. I'm gonna go

867
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Speaker 3: with Paris Johnson Senior, and I'm gonna go with Paris Lennon.

868
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 4: That would be correct.

869
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: Dang it, Paris Handrahan, dang it. All right, I'm in

870
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: a hole. Here we go.

871
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: Here's here's here's my quick story on the I don't

872
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: know why I just thought of this, but Paris Johnson

873
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 3: Senior rarely gets mentioned. I saved the newspaper from when

874
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 3: my first born was born that day, and the main

875
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: story in the East Valley Tribune, in the paper that

876
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: I worked for at the time, was a giant feature

877
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: on Paris Johnson Senior. So I have this fantastic story

878
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 3: about Paris Johnson Senior and my keepsakes.

879
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 4: Paul, no pressure, You need a correct answer and a steal.

880
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 4: You want question three or four?

881
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: Pressure?

882
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: Obviously three?

883
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 4: Here we go.

884
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: Okay, my pen is out, I'm ready, Okay, here we go.

885
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: This former player spent just one season each with the

886
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: Cardinals and Backers. He was the son of a Cardinals

887
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 4: star from the nineteen seventies, and made a pivotal play

888
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 4: in the final game of the nineteen ninety eight season

889
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 4: against the Chargers, helping Arizona secure a spot in the playoffs.

890
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: That game, I was on the sideline that carried the

891
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 2: goal post off.

892
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: I know it's his question, but could you repeat that

893
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: one more time?

894
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: Please? Anything to buy time? Thank you, Darren.

895
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 4: This former player spent just one season each with the

896
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 4: Cardinals and Packers. He was the son of a Cardinal

897
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 4: star from the nineteen seventies and made a pivotal play

898
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: in the final game of the nineteen ninety eight season

899
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: against the Chargers, helping Ariana secure a spot in the play.

900
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: Better get Darren doesn't need hear the rest of the question,

901
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 2: Eric Metcalf.

902
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 4: Correct, Okay, now you need a seal.

903
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: Paul, let me considering I've been a two days with

904
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: Wolf and Aaron. Anyway, go ahead, all right, here we go.

905
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: I thought that's what it was, but I got a

906
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: little confused with how long in this. So it is

907
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: what it is. I'm going to answer this right. And

908
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: then Paul go Home said.

909
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 4: Wow, wow confidence. Here we go go.

910
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: There we goes right, here we go. I'm in a

911
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: three point stance.

912
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 4: Lambeau Field is named after one of the Packers founders,

913
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 4: Curly Lambo. What significance does Lambo hold in Cardinals history?

914
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 3: He was he was a head coach.

915
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 4: Correct, He was the Chicago Cardinals head coach from nineteen

916
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 4: fifty to ninety fifty one. It doesn't bring me any joy, Paul,

917
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 4: that makes you feel any better that Darren has won

918
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: back in the wind, call him.

919
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: I just ran out of questions, that's all. I just

920
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: ran out of questions. He didn't really win. I just

921
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: didn't have.

922
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 3: An opportunities driving and he just ran out.

923
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: I just didn't have an ample opportunity. You know, Darren

924
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: didn't really stop me. The game stopped me, did Yeah,

925
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 2: it's the rules of the game stopped me. That's all.

926
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: This stopped me. All right, done, Darren. That was good,

927
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: that's sure.

928
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

929
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: I not sure I would have got that last one anyway.

930
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: I would. I was thinking, you know, more along the

931
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: lines of Charles bid Will bailed him out. But I

932
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: guess that was the Hallis family back in the day, right,

933
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: there's the Hellis family.

934
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: The Chicago Bears wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the

935
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: big rules.

936
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: That's right, that is true. Okay. By the way, Packers Cardinals'

937
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: second longest rivalry in NFL history, right.

938
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: I believe that's right behind Cardinals Bears, right.

939
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like two Chicago. All right, So okay, you know,

940
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: at the end of that game in Inneapolis, Trey McBride

941
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: felt like he had played one hundred years. That dude,

942
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: he was gassed and he gave everything he had and

943
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: then some you want NFL history, you know, And I

944
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: might joke with Trey about this a little bit later.

945
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: That should have been like his Kellen Winslow game speaking

946
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: of tight ends, you know, carried off at the end

947
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: by teammates that I could have been Zach Gershman.

948
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: You can go ahead and google it, yes, Kellen Winslow Senior.

949
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: Please google do.

950
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: Not suitable for work. So, uh, Trey McBride, what kind

951
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: of season do you think he's having, because obviously he's

952
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 2: getting more attention than ever, and I think he's getting

953
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: punished more than ever. Hint, hint, officials, keep an eye

954
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: on what defenses are doing to him physically.

955
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 3: Please, you know, it's funny. I know he talked last

956
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: week to a few reporters. I talked to him the

957
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 3: week before and he kind of said the same thing,

958
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: which is he said, I don't feel like I'm reaching

959
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: the level I need to now. I think he acknowledged

960
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 3: that there's a lot involved, including and he said, teams

961
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: are defending me a lot differently. And I think it

962
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: goes to what you were just saying, Paul, which is

963
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: they know he's their best player, so they're guarding him

964
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: as such. But that's one of the reasons I liked

965
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: what they did the other day, which was they made

966
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: sure he got the ball, and that's what has to

967
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: happen When you have these great players, you have to

968
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 3: find a way to get him the ball. And I

969
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: think Trey played a really good game. I think he's

970
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: super important to this team, especially with Jamee. What The

971
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 3: final thing I asked him that day that I was

972
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: talking to him a couple weeks ago, was with Connor out,

973
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: You're obviously an emotional player. Do you feel any more

974
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: pressure to be that guy now that Connor isn't there

975
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: to help do it? And he said, yes, he does

976
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: think he's that guy, and I think it's important for

977
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: him to stay very involved, not only because he's so good,

978
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: but because I think you need that kind of emotional

979
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 3: foundation for this offense.

980
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 4: Absolutely, McBride's having one of those sneaky good seasons. He

981
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 4: is still one of the best tight ends in the league.

982
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 4: He still makes plays when the ball comes his way,

983
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 4: even some balls that aren't even good throws like he

984
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 4: is finding a way to haul them in. And you

985
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 4: wish that he would have maybe gotten that call in

986
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 4: the end zone to have that interception in Indianapolis, And

987
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 4: those are important to have. They are reliable when they

988
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 4: get the football in their hands, and they do energize

989
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 4: a team, and you could see that in Indy.

990
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: He ain't no Travis Kelcey where he's strictly a receiver either.

991
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: I mean he is asked to block and be physical

992
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: at the point of attack, which just adds to the toll.

993
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: The physical toll takes on him even more so.

994
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 4: Now you're without Tip Bryman for the rest of the

995
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 4: season because of that injury Stuffered a few weeks ago,

996
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: they were without Travis vocalc for almost the entire game

997
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 4: that the offense didn't even play a snap with vocal

998
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 4: like it was that first special teams play for vocal

999
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: x so. And we don't know what the prognosis of

1000
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 4: his neck concussion injury is going to be, so I

1001
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 4: would expect McBride to block more. I'd also expect to

1002
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 4: see a lot more jumbo packages. We saw a lot

1003
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: of offensive lineman Calvin Beacham lining up. But yeah, a

1004
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 4: lot is being asked of McBride.

1005
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: And by the way, for everything the Packers are and

1006
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: could be, and I know when they started the season,

1007
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they were the best team in

1008
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: the NFC, And things have cooled off a little bit

1009
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: and they're three to one and one. The defense gave

1010
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: up forty points to Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. Now,

1011
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: the Cowboys have a half decent offense, there's no doubt

1012
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: about it, miles ahead of their defense. But Joe Flacco

1013
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: came into Cincinnati on three days notice and went twenty

1014
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 2: nine to forty five, couple of touchdowns, no turnovers, was

1015
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: sacked only one time. He's about as immobile as it gets,

1016
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: and he led five straight Cincinnati drives to close the

1017
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 2: game that didn't end in a punter or a turnover.

1018
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: So I think there's opportunity for the Cardinals offense against

1019
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: this Packers defense.

1020
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 3: I absolutely agree with you. And again this goes back

1021
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 3: to the top of what you were talking about, Paul.

1022
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: There are no Juggernauts in this league. The Packers are

1023
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: a good team, do not get me wrong. I understand

1024
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 3: why they would be favored in this game. They could

1025
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 3: make a playoff run, but they are certainly not a

1026
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: team that on a week to week basis you're just

1027
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 3: assuming is going to roll over the opponent. Because I

1028
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 3: don't think there's I don't know if there's any teams

1029
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 3: like that right now, And it'll be fascinating to see.

1030
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: I mean, for me, it is about what the offense

1031
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: can do and if they can have a follow up,

1032
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: regardless of who the quarterback is. And Jonathan Gannon said,

1033
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,959
Speaker 3: you know, we're gonna probably he basically implied, We're probably

1034
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 3: gonna take it all the way up until Saturday or

1035
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: Sunday again to see if Kyler can play. So we

1036
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: don't know who the quarterback is. Can that offense follow up?

1037
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: But to me, more importantly, after what we saw last

1038
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 3: year in Green Bay, can this defense hold down Jordan

1039
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 3: Love in this offense a little bit? And watching what

1040
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor did, And Jonathan Gannon said, I did not

1041
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: like how we played run defense. Jonathan Taylor at average

1042
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: almost six yards of Cary. You can't let Josh Jacobs

1043
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 3: get off.

1044
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 4: It's a balanced Packers offense. He got a really good quarterback,

1045
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 4: a mobile quarterback, and Jordan Love who makes good decisions.

1046
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: He's got weapons, that fast receiver, the rookie receiver Matthew

1047
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 4: Golden out of Texas, Tidan Tucker Craft who has been

1048
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 4: great all throughout his career, and you've got Josh Jacobs

1049
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 4: in the backfield similar to Indy in the sense that

1050
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: it's an offense that is moving on all cylinders, very balanced.

1051
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 4: How do you do that? You make them one dimensional

1052
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 4: more times than not. That means focusing on stopping the

1053
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: run first and foremost, which prior to Indy, the Cardinals

1054
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 4: have been pretty good at this season, and hopefully when

1055
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: it comes to defending the pass, I mean, we don't

1056
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 4: know this. On Tuesday, there's a chance that cornerback Garrett

1057
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 4: Williams is able to return this week. He's missed the

1058
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 4: minimum four games being placed on IR with that knee

1059
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: injury he suffered too the home opener against Carolina. Now

1060
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 4: I have no inkling whether or not they're going to

1061
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 4: open up his practice window or on the chance that

1062
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 4: just because his practice windows open doesn't necessarily mean that

1063
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 4: Williams will be ready to play that first game that

1064
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: comes up. It is a possibility though, starting this week.

1065
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: And what was the nugget of info that TV announced

1066
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: has dropped about Walter Nole in the third during the telecast.

1067
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was kind of surprising to me. I saw

1068
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 4: it because Zach Gershman tweeted listening to the broadcast that

1069
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 4: I guess in the production meeting, Gannon said that Walter

1070
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 4: Nole in the third will be ready to come back

1071
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 4: soon from the CAF injury that's kept him out all

1072
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 4: season as a rookie. When you look at the logistics

1073
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: of it, though, I would be surprised if it happens

1074
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 4: this week. You have a twenty one day window when

1075
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 4: you open up that practice window, and considering the fact

1076
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 4: that after Green Bay the Cardinals are on their bye week,

1077
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 4: do you want to open up that twenty one day

1078
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 4: window for a rookie who hasn't practiced in pads in

1079
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 4: almost a year when you're gonna have that whole week off. Logistically,

1080
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 4: I don't know how much how realistic that is. Would

1081
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 4: I would lean towards more realistic after the bye week

1082
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 4: because of that.

1083
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think we all need to pump our

1084
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 2: brakes on any rookie trying to assimilate in the middle

1085
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: of the NFL regular season because Danny knows the answer

1086
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: to this. What are the three of us have in

1087
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: common with Walter Nolan the third? None of us has

1088
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: warned pads in the NFL, So you're gonna have to,

1089
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: you know, just win in doubt. Figure it's going to

1090
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: take a little bit longer than you might figure, Okay,

1091
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm not going to give the cheeseheads any inkling of

1092
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 2: recognition until we finish this up by getting some winning behavior.

1093
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: Can you display winning behavior? You have to consistently display

1094
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 2: winning behavior. That's winning behavior.

1095
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 3: You've got to.

1096
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 4: Define what winning behavior is and hold people to that standard.

1097
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: Yes, so I look at the rundown. It's not shocking.

1098
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: I don't recognize a single one of these entries. Number

1099
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: one Darren's Thursday Twitter Yeah, no idea.

1100
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 3: Would you like me to talk about that for a minute, Paul, sure,

1101
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 3: this would be under non winning behavior from yours truly

1102
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 3: all right, because I decided to wade into Twitter on

1103
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 3: Thursday night basically saying both things can be true. We

1104
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 3: can all talk about how it would have been cool

1105
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: if Cam Scataboo as a member of the Cardinals, but

1106
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: also it would have been Malfeastin to draft a running

1107
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: back in the third round. That didn't go well.

1108
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 4: You mean, back in April, people didn't know that James

1109
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 4: Connor Trey Benza were both going to get hurt in

1110
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 4: that RN off. The bat Camp's gottaby was going to

1111
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 4: be a good player in the NFL.

1112
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 3: It did not go well. Danny, I'm going to leave it.

1113
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: Is there one particular regret that stands out over all

1114
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: the others?

1115
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: I will say that a certain person that I know

1116
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: will call him. Robert immediately texted me and said, what

1117
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 3: the hell are you doing? And even my son after

1118
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 3: a few replies, saying, wow, you're getting a little feisty there, Dad.

1119
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 4: Don't read the comments.

1120
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: Darren, Oh boy, it might have been a mistake. Paul. Okay,

1121
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: so non winning behavior.

1122
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 2: So there's Darren on Twitter, there's Mark from Reno.

1123
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 4: You know, Darren always complains that we never have actual

1124
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 4: winning behavior. In this segment, I have winning behavior. In Indianapolis,

1125
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 4: we were visiting our favorite local dive barf Miller's depends, well,

1126
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: I guess yeah, it depends who you're talking to on

1127
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 4: how it's people that own it.

1128
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 2: Were you wearing the shirt? Were you guys wearing the shirt?

1129
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: We were We were wearing the shirts with our face

1130
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 4: quality having a shot at the bar.

1131
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: It was a very meta of do we can that

1132
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: winning or non winning behavior?

1133
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 3: That is absolutely winning behavior, but that's not what she's

1134
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 3: talking about.

1135
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 4: So there was a group of us sitting off to

1136
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 4: the side and there was someone sitting at the bar

1137
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: and he heard us talking a little bit about Arizona

1138
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 4: and he was wearing a Pat Tillman shirt that the

1139
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 4: Pat's run.

1140
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: Oh okay.

1141
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 4: So he turns around, So I heard you guys talking

1142
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 4: about Arizona, Like, are you guys here for the game?

1143
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 4: Are you Cardinals fans? We filled him in all we

1144
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 4: all we work for the team, and we were chatting

1145
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 4: with him, and he was lovely to talk to. He

1146
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 4: probably sat and talked with us for a good hour

1147
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 4: or so. He lived in Arizona, doesn't live here anymore,

1148
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 4: has had a season tickets for twenty five years. He

1149
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 4: now lives in Reno for work, so his daughter and

1150
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 4: son in law use his season tickets and he likes

1151
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 4: to travel the game, so he's going Indianapolis. Originally his

1152
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: son in law was going to join him, although his

1153
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 4: son in law and daughter had an eight month old

1154
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 4: baby at home, so even though it was his birthday,

1155
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 4: the daughter, Nope, not happening.

1156
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: You guys are besties. My goodness, we have a.

1157
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 3: Lot of behavior.

1158
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 4: He was really great. He not only bought us around,

1159
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 4: he then surprised us by paying for a whole tab.

1160
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 4: And there were probably ten or eleven of about it

1161
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 4: was a big tab. Yeah, really appreciate it. So I'm

1162
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 4: not sure if Mark is a loyal Cardinals Underground listener.

1163
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 4: If he is, thank you, Mark, hope you enjoy the game.

1164
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: Appreciated Mark?

1165
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 4: Okay, winning behavior?

1166
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: Is he like in the Quicksilver business in Reno? Like

1167
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: you know mine, mine's see there you go. That's what

1168
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: I thought. Okay, now this one, I know Tess Johnson

1169
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: for the triple flip to try and out do cam

1170
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: Scataboo in the end Z fantastic.

1171
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 5: I did not realize that the video the video, so

1172
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 5: he's miked up, and he was not only miked up,

1173
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 5: but he's talking after the game, and the Buccaneers put

1174
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 5: out an awesome video splicing his postgame interview with in game.

1175
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 3: But essentially what happened is he catches a touchdown pass,

1176
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: he does his flip, he starts hearing the MVP chants

1177
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 3: and he comes to the sideline and he talks to

1178
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 3: Sterling Sheppard, one of the veteran receivers who's a teammate,

1179
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 3: and he's like, hey, man, are they they were chanting

1180
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 3: MVP and Sterling Shepherd's like, yeah, they were chanting MVP

1181
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 3: and He goes, why are they chanting MVP? I haven't

1182
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 3: done nothing this year? And Sterling Shepherd looks at him

1183
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 3: and goes, they're chanting for Baker tes Baker threw you

1184
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 3: the touchdown. That's who they're chanting for. Oh it was fantastic.

1185
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, you must check out that video.

1186
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, when when the lack of self awareness is that's

1187
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 2: such an extreme chanting, highly entertaining. That's good. Okay, all right,

1188
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: that's the only thing better than being in the silver business.

1189
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: Right now, have you seen the price of silver? No,

1190
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 2: wonder he picked up your tap?

1191
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 4: Why would you ask me that? Do you think I've

1192
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,479
Speaker 4: seen the price of silver? Paul?

1193
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 3: You know about the price of the shrimp cocktail, but

1194
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: now the price is nineteen That's what Paul told me.

1195
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so are we really? I mean, you guys, somebody

1196
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 2: put in a story here, you know, I.

1197
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: Mean, I was just trying to give you back two word.

1198
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm not asking you, just just intro it for this.

1199
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: This this New Orleans story is its own podcast.

1200
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 3: Long story short.

1201
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 2: Somebody was doing yard work and found something.

1202
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 3: They found. They found a marble tablet in their backyard

1203
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: that was overgrown and It turned out to be a

1204
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: grave marker for a grave that was almost two thousand

1205
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 3: years old that had been in Italy and somehow ended

1206
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 3: up in New Orleans at some point, but they found

1207
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 3: it and so they're trying to get it back to

1208
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 3: a museum in Italy and it's it's for a Roman

1209
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: sailor named Sextus, and like, I'm like, that is first

1210
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: of all, I'm a I love visiting older graveyards. I

1211
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 3: think that's one of the coolest things ever connection to history.

1212
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 3: But like stop laughing in there for freak's sake. But anyways,

1213
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: so I I think I just thought that was cool.

1214
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 3: A grave markt a little.

1215
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 4: Further away from Darren after hearing you like to spend

1216
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 4: his Swimon graveyard.

1217
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: It's about history.

1218
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: So, Danny, you meet a guy in a bar and

1219
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 2: he says, I like to hang out in older graveyards.

1220
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: What's your reaction, quickly bail, get there, drink.

1221
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: I just got ail exactly. That's I'm not sure we

1222
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: can come back from that comment right there.

1223
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 3: I think history is cool. That's what I'm just saying.

1224
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 4: What about our picks, Paul, no movement this week?

1225
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: There's history and then there's graveyard history. Okay, so speaking.

1226
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 3: Of everybody went eight and six in the picks.

1227
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: Speaking of graveyards, I thought I was buried, but I'm not.

1228
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: I'm only two back to make this all about me.

1229
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: I thought I was seriously under five hundred this week,

1230
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: but I.

1231
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 3: Totally did too. Yeah, I was like, oh my god,

1232
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 3: as I actually said at one point, I said, has

1233
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 3: anybody ever gone winless? I thought it was going to

1234
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 3: go winless?

1235
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: It only felt like we lost every game, So not exactly.

1236
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 4: I'm still knocking on the doorstep one game back from Darren.

1237
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: Is it just you, Danny or is there any sort

1238
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: of speaking of.

1239
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 4: Peds and you're the one who admitted to using AI

1240
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 4: two weeks an, you.

1241
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: Know what, this might be a good chance to end

1242
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: here at Cardinals Underground. No further, I'm not going to

1243
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 2: take any further questions.

1244
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 4: Don't use AI. Why would I use AI to go

1245
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 4: eight and six?

1246
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 3: That's true, Well you would just use AI. I mean,

1247
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 3: you don't really have any control over whether you're going.

1248
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: You don't say AI. Make sure you make picks so

1249
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: I go fifteen to two. Well she could unless that's

1250
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 3: an AI that I don't want to know about. Because

1251
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 3: then we're then we're in terminator status and cyberdine and

1252
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about.

1253
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 2: That, Darren. We're just being set up for a big

1254
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: finish like last season, where you know she was sort

1255
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 2: of damn straight. Paul. Yeah, it was so like fits

1256
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: and Golf, he's sandbags and then in the back nine, boom,

1257
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: you lose all your money.

1258
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 3: You know how I knew that we all ended up

1259
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: with about the same records because Danny didn't pop off

1260
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,479
Speaker 3: ahead of time saying I've just passed you off because

1261
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 3: I was waiting for that for like two days.

1262
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well tell me so. Well, it's a

1263
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: good thing this is only weekly because it's going to

1264
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: take a week to recover from the I enjoy old Graveyards.

1265
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: Comment here on Cardinals Underground brought to you by Pacific

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01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,760
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