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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about something now. You know, we

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Speaker 2: talk about phenomenal things here on coast, whether it's a bigfoot,

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Speaker 2: whether it's an alien, whether it's NASA stuff and cures

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Speaker 2: or anything, just outstanding phenomenal work by people. Like not

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Speaker 2: long ago we did the cosmetics. That's phenomenal work, changing

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Speaker 2: people's lives with the way they look, the way they

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Speaker 2: feel about themselves. You know a lot of people will

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Speaker 2: do it because well, you know, I've done television and

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Speaker 2: people want to look at it on a TV or

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Speaker 2: they just want to look good in life and they're

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Speaker 2: you know, to me, I think it's all like your

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Speaker 2: own confidence and you got to feel good on the inside.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's what's important.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Tonight is a phenomenon that I've found that was a

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Speaker 2: pretty amazing because I don't know how many of you

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Speaker 2: have watched The Hangover and you the one guy get

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Speaker 2: up the next morning and realized it right, and maybe

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Speaker 2: some of you. I've seen some other tattoo shows where

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Speaker 2: people have made these decisions of getting a tattoo when

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Speaker 2: they were drunk, or maybe they got a tattoo with

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Speaker 2: somebody's name on it or somebody's face and they no

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Speaker 2: longer dated or were married to that person anymore, and

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Speaker 2: they get into these positions where they don't want it,

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Speaker 2: or maybe it's just a fad looking kind of tattoo

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Speaker 2: that was cool in the eighties, but now they're like,

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Speaker 2: so you can get them, maybe taken off because you

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Speaker 2: want them off. You can get them taken off for

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Speaker 2: other reasons, as in, let's change this or maybe just

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Speaker 2: seen people that have taken things off and they're really

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Speaker 2: scarred up and pretty not looking very good. But now,

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Speaker 2: of course the phenomena along the way continues, and I

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Speaker 2: like to grab onto those because I think it's important.

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Speaker 2: I know now I'm not one that I don't have

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Speaker 2: any of those.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I'm good with that. I know so many of my

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Speaker 2: friends are very different that way. They love them, they

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Speaker 2: want a new one constantly. I could not even handle

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Speaker 2: or even think of the pain that I would go

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Speaker 2: through with that, and nor do I would probably be

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Speaker 2: sick of whatever it is. I can tell you as

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Speaker 2: far as I go, Like, I got some gail nails

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Speaker 2: recently around Christmas, and I put on my pointer finger

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Speaker 2: little tiny, little missiletoe. And that's kind of about the

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Speaker 2: extent of something tattooed on me. Even though it's not right,

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Speaker 2: it's on the nail, it'll come off. But by the way,

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Speaker 2: it's a good idea for anybody next Christmas or Holidays.

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Speaker 2: Put that little missletoe on your finger when you get

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Speaker 2: your nails done, even if it's.

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Speaker 3: A guy, go get your nails done.

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Speaker 2: Yet you know how you get that, And it's really

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Speaker 2: cool because it's convenient because if you like, you can

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Speaker 2: put it over your head or somebody else's head. It's

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun. Anyway, that's just a little Connie

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Speaker 2: Ancient secret there. But going into the tattoo world, I

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Speaker 2: just found it as a phenomenon to be able to

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Speaker 2: take these things off now without the scarring. So if

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Speaker 2: Mike Tyson did decide that he wanted that off, he

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Speaker 2: think that the technology can also probably help in other areas.

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Speaker 2: But we're going to find out all that. Chris Slavin

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Speaker 2: is with us tonight. He owns a tattoo removal company

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Speaker 2: known for removing tattoos faster than anyone. So not only

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Speaker 2: at the pictures. I'm absolutely amazed at the pictures on

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Speaker 2: his website. You'll see, Wow, there's like no scarring here.

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Speaker 2: How did that happen? And it's really fast. I think

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Speaker 2: you'll be surprised at it. That is is a zapatat

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Speaker 2: dot net. So zap z A P A T A

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Speaker 2: I think it's amazing. I think it's phenomenal. So I thought,

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Speaker 2: you know, I know too many people out there that

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Speaker 2: there's Connie, they will pull up their sleeve, they'll pull

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want one. I've seen one that

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Speaker 3: Well, here you go.

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Speaker 2: Here's your answers for tonight. So we're gonna welcome first

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Speaker 2: and welcome to Coast to coast, Am, how are you tonight?

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Speaker 4: Good to be on with you, Connie, thanks so much

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Speaker 4: for inviting me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is you know again, everybody's like, what's the

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Speaker 2: phenomenon here? And your phenomenon is you can remove tattoos

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Speaker 2: faster than anyone.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Well tell me, Well, tell me more about yourself and

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Speaker 2: how you got into this, and then tell us about Zappaitat.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's kind of a weird story because I was

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Speaker 4: semi retired from a healthcare senior executive in a healthcare

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Speaker 4: company and we were having a few call them cocktails,

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Speaker 4: just came back from college all tatted up, and I'm

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Speaker 4: kind of a wise ask and I just said, yeah,

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Speaker 4: a company called sapitat. Everybody laughed. The next morning, I

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Speaker 4: started doing research and what I found was that it

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Speaker 4: was totally screwed up how things were being done. There

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Speaker 4: was a very very a lot of judgment. Uh, there

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Speaker 4: So I looked at it and I thought, maybe I

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Speaker 4: I was asking people do you like your tattoos? And

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Speaker 4: And then I started asking people do you like all

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Speaker 4: of them, well no, there's this one that didn't work

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Speaker 4: I thought, this is not this is nothing to be

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Speaker 4: So what I decided was to really start the company

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Wait a minute, that's like a car.

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Speaker 4: So I just I started looking into it, and I

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Speaker 4: the first first year of operations we did a thousand treatments,

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Speaker 3: Word of mouth, I'm sure too, right.

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Speaker 4: A lot of it's word of mouth. Also, it's you know,

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Speaker 4: we were pretty active on social media, and at that

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Speaker 4: So what happened was we got just a huge amount

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Speaker 4: It was taking you know, a year, a year to

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Speaker 4: non destructive testing. So we tested by doing treatments that

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Speaker 4: do testing six different skin types. So we do a

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Speaker 3: So different energies for different colors of skin. Is that right?

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Speaker 4: For different tattoos and different colors of skin?

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Speaker 4: Skin type, you're going to treat it with different energies.

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Speaker 4: So we had we had developed this program, this protocol.

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Speaker 4: It's nine one hundred and ninety different settings that you

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Speaker 4: Scarring can happen if you don't know what you're doing

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Speaker 3: Is it similar to like when you can go into gully.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. There's all these facials now that you

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Speaker 2: Is this similar to that type of stuff that cosmetic

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Speaker 4: Lasers are amazing things that can be There's different lasers

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Speaker 2: And is there time between that you can't come back

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Speaker 4: It with with with with our laser facialists, you can

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Speaker 4: We just talked about laser facials, but tattoos were removing

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Speaker 4: that's uh, that's two to four treatments, okay.

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Speaker 5: And that's that compares to the conventional way of removing

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Speaker 3: That's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Now, come on, you, did you ever think you were

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Speaker 4: No, I just I tell you, Connie, I'm a super geek,

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