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Speaker 1: What is up? Welcome to another edition of the NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Podcast. It's me and your man, NAMG Marcus Grant,

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Speaker 1: socially distancing away from the Fantasy Hall of Famer Michael Fabiano.

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Speaker 1: It's good to be back. I mean we you know,

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Speaker 1: of back in one space again, right now. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: it's uh, it's good. Uh, we missed you last week.

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Speaker 1: We had our our pal Bob Harris on there, who

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Speaker 1: did a great job. And uh, look at Eddie, Man,

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Speaker 1: look at that. Did you get another haircut? Like it

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Speaker 1: looks like the hair like a little shorter. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he gave his girlfriend a second chance. No, I

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Speaker 1: uh in Los Angeles, right, but I flew home, so

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Speaker 1: that's why I'm currently in this setup. And I'm also

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Speaker 1: missing my uh my head gaming head set. I've forgot that.

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Speaker 1: But before I flew back, Uh, the good old super

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Speaker 1: that my girlfriend did. Um so yeah, hopefully it's scrolling

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Speaker 1: back even now. Never so happy to enter a super cut. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the guy noticed too. It's go embarrassing. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just He's like it's pretty messed up. It's like

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Speaker 1: nothing to be even here. I feel like for a

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Speaker 1: sure they're getting a lot of that right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. Oh man, I got a fun show for

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Speaker 1: you today. We've got jj zacher reeson coming on. Of course,

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Speaker 1: if you if you follow fantasy football, if you follow

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Speaker 1: fantasy Twitter, you probably know him. He's the late round quarterback,

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Speaker 1: has a couple of podcasts, works for Fan Duel and

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Speaker 1: Number Fire. So excited to get him on the show,

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Speaker 1: just kind of talk some fantasy stuff. He's got some

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Speaker 1: some new theories he's kicking around to want to kind

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Speaker 1: of pick his brain on that. But always like to

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Speaker 1: do kind of a big story of what's happened, uh

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Speaker 1: in the last week. Um, I know, maybe the biggest

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Speaker 1: story is the fact that a handful of players and

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Speaker 1: and FABS. You and I sort of talked about a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago how life might be for fantasy

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Speaker 1: because this was sort of an inevitability. So, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: other than saying, you know, we we wish them all

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Speaker 1: good health and what have you. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I feel like that is sort of you know, I guess,

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Speaker 1: I guess if you're gonna get it, get it now,

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Speaker 1: right so you don't have to worry about it, assuming

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Speaker 1: that that makes you somewhat uh, you know, so you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna have to worry about getting it as much

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Speaker 1: a second time around. But listen, man, like this should

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Speaker 1: during the course of the regular season. So you need

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Speaker 1: to make sure that you talk to your commissioner about

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Speaker 1: expanding rosters. If you're in super flex or two QB leagues,

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Speaker 1: injured reserve spots. You're gonna have to change the way

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Speaker 1: like I said, better now than like in you know,

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Speaker 1: it's all on charted territory, Marcus, right, like we we

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Speaker 1: simply don't know. Losing preseason games, as you said, might

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Speaker 1: no home field advantage if there's no fans, So suddenly

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Speaker 1: That's uh, that's our big story for right now. Joining

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Speaker 1: new world now, so joining us now on our stream here. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Is the one and only JJ zach A Reeson. You

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Speaker 1: know him on Twitter as the Late Round Quarterback. He's

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Speaker 1: the editor in chief of Fan Duel and Number Fire.

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Speaker 1: He also hosts the Late Round Quarterback podcast and the

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Speaker 1: Living the Stream podcast. J J. It's been It's We're

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Speaker 1: overdue to have you on this show. So I appreciate

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Speaker 1: He crushed is always awesome. I appreciate that. Um So

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Speaker 1: I have, and I'm giving them those things that I

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Speaker 1: have that they need, and I'm I'm open to getting

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Speaker 1: a lot of the players on those rosters. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not just targeting individual players whenever I'm looking for

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Speaker 1: a trade. So to me, it's about making your considerations

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Speaker 1: set really big. And of course you have your favorites.

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Speaker 1: Of course you have your your favorite breakouts and so on. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I'm really open to picking a lot of different guys.

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Speaker 1: So has your has your strategy change as it pertains

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Speaker 1: to tight ends going into this year though, because so

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Speaker 1: obviously you know it's gonna be killed. See, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Kidle, you know, zach Ertz the top three. You've

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Speaker 1: also got a lot of young guys at that position

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Speaker 1: who could bust out, would be like this year's Mark Andrews, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean like I can give you a half a

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Speaker 1: dozen right off the top of my head. So if

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Speaker 1: you and I'm never I've never been the type to

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Speaker 1: go after a Kelsey or Kidle because I don't want

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Speaker 1: to miss out on that number two running back or

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Speaker 1: miss out on that number one wide receiver, because I

447
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Speaker 1: have to go out and get these guys so early.

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Speaker 1: So I'm always looking late. Now. Last year, the strategy

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Speaker 1: only worked in the case of Mark Andrews and in

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Speaker 1: case of Darren Waller. Other than that, if you went

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Speaker 1: early tight end. And I'm not talking about Kelsey, Kiddle

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Speaker 1: or earth O. J. Howard was a bust, Evaningham got hurt,

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Speaker 1: Vance McDonald was a disaster. David and Joeku was. It

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Speaker 1: was terrible in Austin. Hooper ended up being very good

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Speaker 1: as well. But this year, going into your drafts, if

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Speaker 1: you don't get one of these top guys, like, at

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Speaker 1: what point in your draft are you thinking, Okay, I've

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Speaker 1: punted tight end this long, It's time for me to

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Speaker 1: go after the position because I feel like you can

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Speaker 1: wait even longer than ever if you really have confidence

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Speaker 1: in some of these young upside players. Yeah, totally agree,

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Speaker 1: and that that's really been my approach Historically. I rarely

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Speaker 1: get the elite guys, you know, the Travis Kelsey's of

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Speaker 1: the world, but I at least understand getting those guys

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Speaker 1: as opposed to the middle round ones that you mentioned

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Speaker 1: that that busted at a pretty high rate last year,

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Speaker 1: whether it was Evan Ingram or or whoever. Um And

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Speaker 1: really numbers bear that out. If you look at since eleven,

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Speaker 1: if you look at all top twelve tight ends by

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Speaker 1: a DP, the correlation between where those tight ends were

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Speaker 1: drafted and how many fantasy points they scored was zero,

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Speaker 1: meaning wherever the tight end twelve within that sample was

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Speaker 1: scoring as many points as the tight end one. From

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Speaker 1: a predictability standpoint, now, if you look at it from

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Speaker 1: the tight end one to the tight end six, there

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Speaker 1: is some correlation which tells us that the middle round

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Speaker 1: tight ends the guys that you just mentioned fabs and

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Speaker 1: guys of old. You know Greg Olsen who was draft

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Speaker 1: in the middle round for so many years. He was fine.

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Speaker 1: He was just never giving you that really elite ceiling.

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Speaker 1: And that's really what you need to have a true

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Speaker 1: difference maker at the position um because you're only starting

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Speaker 1: one of them in your lineup. So uh, if you

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Speaker 1: look at it from that perspective, middle round tight ends

485
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Speaker 1: are usually the one of the worst bets in fantasy football.

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Speaker 1: I think that's still the case this year for the

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Speaker 1: most part, unless you find drafts where some of those

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Speaker 1: guys drop a little bit um. But you know, guys

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Speaker 1: like Waller this year, it's just tough to get behind them,

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Speaker 1: given not only what we've seen from history, but like

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, every year there are these athletic tight ends

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Speaker 1: that break out that end up you know, reaching that

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Speaker 1: that top three or four status, and I think this

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Speaker 1: year you can pinpoint you know, I wrote a how

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Speaker 1: to find a breakout tight end article and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be going over some of my examples on my show

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Speaker 1: this this next week. There's like ten of them that

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Speaker 1: I could watch. I mean, there's there are so many reasonable,

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Speaker 1: logical late round tight ends that you could target this

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Speaker 1: year that it's just I get the allure of going

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Speaker 1: with Travis Kelsey. I certainly do, but at the same time,

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Speaker 1: it's just hard to to ignore what you can get

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Speaker 1: in the eleventh and twelve round and get Sicky Hearst, Hawkinson, Jarwin,

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Speaker 1: Fan Smith, Thomas. It's ridiculous. It's funny because I, you know,

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Speaker 1: having done between mock drafts and regular drafts, I will

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Speaker 1: say that I am sort of on the either into

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Speaker 1: the spectrum right where I've had. I have a couple

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Speaker 1: of teams where I I went out and I got

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Speaker 1: George Kittle early, and I've got a couple where I

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Speaker 1: went out and waited and I got you know, Ga,

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Speaker 1: Sicky or Fanto, what have you. I feel a lot

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Speaker 1: better about those teams than the the few handful of

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Speaker 1: times where I, you know, somehow just you know, threw

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Speaker 1: up my hands and drafted Hunter Henry in the middle

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Speaker 1: rounds Like I felt like, I felt like, you know,

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Speaker 1: at least on the one and if I have kittle,

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Speaker 1: I know that there's going to be solid production there

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Speaker 1: week to week. On the other end, if I have

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Speaker 1: the sicky look, I I expect and I hope for

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Speaker 1: the breakout. But I also know that I didn't spend

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Speaker 1: a lot in draft capital to sort of get there.

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Speaker 1: I got Hunter Henry and like the seventh or eighth round,

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Speaker 1: and I just kind of looked at it and it

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Speaker 1: was like it just sort of laid there as a pick,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't know, I know what to do with it.

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Speaker 1: So I you know, I think it comes back to,

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Speaker 1: you know, the phrase opportunity costs, which is sort of

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Speaker 1: the the secret word for the show apparently today um

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Speaker 1: is opportunity costs. So it does make me wonder though,

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Speaker 1: like I know you mentioned that rarely do tight end breakouts,

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Speaker 1: for instance, come out of nowhere, that it's it's something

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Speaker 1: we've seen. We've sort of been waiting on the Hunter

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Speaker 1: Henry breakout. We've been waiting on maybe the David and

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Speaker 1: Joke WU breakout. Does that mean the ship has kind

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Speaker 1: of sailed on those guys at this point. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean there's some guys that I definitely think that's the case.

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Speaker 1: You know. The one of the things, as you mentioned

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Speaker 1: in the how to find a breakout tight end article, UM,

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Speaker 1: that I found is that a lot of these guys

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Speaker 1: don't come from nowhere from the perspective that they had

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Speaker 1: some sort of target share the previous season. And by

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Speaker 1: some sort of I mean in that ten percent range,

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Speaker 1: which sounds low to a lot of people. That's actually

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Speaker 1: like a top twenty eight, top twenty five target share

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Speaker 1: for the tight end position. And usually that's where these

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Speaker 1: breakout tight ends were there that that's where they were

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Speaker 1: the previous season, right. So you know, the biggest example

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Speaker 1: is like a Rob Gronkowski, where known he has his

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Speaker 1: big breakout yere, he still did something as rookie season.

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Speaker 1: You know, a lot of these guys were doing something.

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Speaker 1: Um And usually a lot of these breakouts are happening

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Speaker 1: in there in year two and three. Of the sample

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Speaker 1: that I looked at of of breakout guys, historically, forty

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Speaker 1: of those breakouts happened in year two and year three. UM.

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Speaker 1: So a guy like Hunter Henry. I mean maybe the

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Speaker 1: ships sailed because we're we're obviously moving forward in his career.

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Speaker 1: We've seen a lot from him. I'm not super bullish

558
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Speaker 1: on the Chargers offense right now either, um And, So

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of reasons to to be.

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Speaker 1: You know, of course, we can like the talent and

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Speaker 1: think that that's there, but there's just a lot of

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Speaker 1: other factors that are that are weighing down Hunter Henry

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Speaker 1: right now. So typically right now, a lot of the

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Speaker 1: drafts going on our best ball right at least it

565
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Speaker 1: should be. It's way too early to do redrafts, although

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Speaker 1: some of us are doing them for magazines and other

567
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Speaker 1: publications and that kind of thing. So when you're doing

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Speaker 1: best ball leagues, are you finding yourself taking shots uh

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Speaker 1: late on Cam Newton and Antonio Brown or are we

570
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Speaker 1: kind of over those two players at this point? I

571
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Speaker 1: think Antonio Brown is one of the most undervalued players

572
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Speaker 1: in fantasy football right now, um and. And the main

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Speaker 1: reason is strictly because of upside. Right, It's strictly because

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Speaker 1: of what we know could happen if he signs. It's

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Speaker 1: on a team like let's say that we give Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown at chance to be on a team next year.

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Speaker 1: That that kind of chance, I'll take that all day.

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Speaker 1: Where he's being drafted, just given historical bust rates at

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Speaker 1: that position late now, I do think it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit different in a re draft league where you're managing

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Speaker 1: your roster and and this is one of the things

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Speaker 1: that I try to stress all the time when people

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Speaker 1: talk even about handcuffs to a degree where you're you're

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Speaker 1: holding deadweight almost on your bench right if if you're

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Speaker 1: drafting a re draft league right now, and we have

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Speaker 1: no idea what's gonna happen with Antonio Brown, or you know,

587
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Speaker 1: maybe you don't go that route because you you want

588
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Speaker 1: to use that bench spot on someone who could develop

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Speaker 1: in camp and maybe break out, like a rookie running

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Speaker 1: back or something like that. Um But you know, generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: historic bust rates in the thirteenth and fourteenth round, you're

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Speaker 1: not getting league winning wide receivers just doesn't happen, right

593
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Speaker 1: Like we've seen maybe one or two that late over

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Speaker 1: the last decade. Uh So, to get a guy like

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown where you can say what you want about

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Speaker 1: the off the field stuff, we know what he can

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Speaker 1: do on the field, right, and we saw that even

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Speaker 1: last year and the one game that he played with

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Um, I'll take that because I think wherever

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Speaker 1: he lands, likely that team needs a wide receiver. Likely

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be see a lot of opportunity. You know,

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Speaker 1: if he's on a team right now, I think we'd

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Speaker 1: all agree that he's probably like a fifth round pick,

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Speaker 1: right and you're getting him right now in the thirteen

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Speaker 1: or fourteenth round. And if you give him at chance

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Speaker 1: to be on a team, and that's that's value. You

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Speaker 1: see the new Josh Gordon, that guy we all we

608
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Speaker 1: all drool over whenever his name comes up. He might be,

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Speaker 1: he might be. But but again, you know a lot

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Speaker 1: of times, even though Josh I will say this, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is clearly a better wide receiver because we've

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Speaker 1: seen him with elite elite historically good production. So from

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Speaker 1: that perspective, you know, we were getting people were openly

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Speaker 1: drafting Josh Gordon in the late rounds historically, and we

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Speaker 1: didn't know where he was going to land and what

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Speaker 1: his situation was gonna look like. Why not do the

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Speaker 1: same thing with Antonio Brown? Yeah, it makes sense in

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Speaker 1: best ball, no question, and re drafts. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get suspended if he ever signs with the team, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean we all know that, like there's going to

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Speaker 1: be some kind of league discipline for all the coalheaded

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Speaker 1: this that he's endured, UH put us through over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. So but in Bestball, I mean, dude,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the perfect spot to take a chance

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00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: on time late, no doubt about him, um as we

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Speaker 1: look to go uh. And this is the thing Fabs

627
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: and I have talked about multiple times on this show,

628
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Speaker 1: and I just want to get thoughts from other folks

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Speaker 1: in the industry. With the news that a handful of

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Speaker 1: Texans and Cowboys have tested positive for COVID nineteen, Ezekiel

631
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Speaker 1: Elliott among them. Have you thought about have you talked

632
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Speaker 1: about anywhere how rosters, how leagues are going to look different,

633
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Speaker 1: because we're obviously going to have to make adjustments because

634
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: inevitably guys are going to test positive and have to

635
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Speaker 1: sit out. Have you started to have those conversations about

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Speaker 1: what your leagues are going to look like in this

637
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Speaker 1: new coronavirus era? Now, yeah, I mean I have had

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00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: conversations and leagues that I commission just seeing what people thought,

639
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Speaker 1: and and I think the easiest way is to have

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Speaker 1: more I R spots, you know, to put guys in

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Speaker 1: more broken bones, right we talk hurt. Um. But with

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Speaker 1: But now I think that that if you expand rosters

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Speaker 1: if Ezekiel Elliott had tested positive in week two, you

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Speaker 1: know Tony Pollard is is an RB one, fringe RB

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Speaker 1: as Zeke sits out and he's he's recovering from the

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Speaker 1: virus so UM with the running back position in particular,

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Speaker 1: I'm way more open in this environment to get backups um.

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Speaker 1: And then I think that that league should at least

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Speaker 1: have the discussion of expanding rosters, maybe by a slaughter

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Speaker 1: on a couple of other things too as fantasy players.

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Speaker 1: Number one is what is the NFL gonna do if anything? Differently,

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Speaker 1: with players who do contract COVID nineteen, do they simply

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Speaker 1: get put on an injured list, in which case, like

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Speaker 1: on NFL dot com, Uh, if you're listed as out,

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Speaker 1: you can't go on the reserve spot. Okay, you have

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Speaker 1: to be either on an injured list, on an exemple list,

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Speaker 1: if you're playing on NFL dot Com, then your commissioner

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Speaker 1: really should probably designate a bench spot as a COVID

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Speaker 1: a player with COVID nineteen, that spot is going to

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Speaker 1: be empty. In other leagues, like on ESPN, for example,

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Speaker 1: I believe if a player is out, you can put

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Speaker 1: him in that reserve injured spot, in which case it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit different. So we need to hear what

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Speaker 1: lot of sense to know the products that you play

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Speaker 1: on how they actually determine whether or not a player

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Speaker 1: can be on a reserve spot or not. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. Uh you know, it's it's a whole

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Speaker 1: new world. I mean, it feels like j J every

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody ever imagined this would be a

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Speaker 1: thing to figure out. Never man as let you go.

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Speaker 1: I know, folks can find you on Twitter at Late

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Speaker 1: Around Quarterback, anything big that folks should be on the

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Speaker 1: lookout for, you know, just just cranking on the podcast

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Speaker 1: Late Around podcast. I do a couple of those every week.

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Speaker 1: That's that's sort of my baby and what I focus

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Speaker 1: I always try to try to throw out there on

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Speaker 1: these shows you no doubt about. Hey, well appreciate it. Again,

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Speaker 1: this was long overdue, so I'm glad you had some

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Speaker 1: Keep up, man, appreciate it. Man alright, J J Zacharies

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Speaker 1: and again Number Fire and fan duel as well. Now

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