WEBVTT - Beating The Book: Guessing Lines Week 12 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:12.360 Check it down, man down Man, Good Monday morning to you. 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:14.640 It is a number game right here. Asa DAS four 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:16.759 spending a our cherious x up channel two oh four, 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.759 Visa dot Com, the Visa boot boast liking game plus 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:23.400 skill Alexander, how are you doing, Jason? You good? Gordon 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:25.919 Gil how are you I am? I'm good? You know. 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:28.680 Not a great contest. We get had a great E 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:32.840 d As weekend, but uh, survivor gets through and uh 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.519 it's a short lived celebration on that. But it was 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:40.000 pretty rocking, Cherry, you had the one survivor pick. I 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.880 think that uh, Chargers not. Yeah, that was not stressful. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.000 But three days from now is Thanksgiving, and so as 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:50.279 I've said from the beginning, it's all great planning till Thanksgiving. Uh, 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.000 and then it's all great planning after that. But Thanksgiving 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.440 itself total winging a prayer. We'll get to that. Well, 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.680 it's everything that happened in the NFL yesterday. This is 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.400 guessing lines for week twelve. True, would you will start 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.080 us radio show? Let's bring in the star of the show. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.919 He runs the South Put South Point rather Hotel casino 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.280 sports book. Here. The director of that sports book at 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.920 Andrew's Sports is where you can find him on Twitter, 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.960 the author of Then One Day It's My Mish book. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:18.440 Chrissie andrews, how you doing, Chris? I'm doing great, Yo. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.039 How are you? I'm doing well. You had a good 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:25.039 weekend from a book's perspective, did you? We had? We 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.399 have pretty good Saturday, and we had a great Sunday. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:34.120 I can't great Sunday. Well, good for you, he says, derisively. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.720 Good for you. Um, we will, I always say, never cry. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.039 We will hardly do that. Um. All right, we'll get 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.319 into everything from yesterday. We'll get in everything moving forward. 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.160 We'll getting everything from yesterday as we discuss what's going 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:51.600 on for those just landing on this show for the 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.800 first time. I have what I typically do is I 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.800 get in a cocoon. I don't. I don't know any 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.400 of the lines. I guess what I think they will be. 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.560 Chrissie tells us what he's going post at the end 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.240 of the show, and within that exercise we extract value. 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.320 But Chris, let me start today by saying, I kind 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:10.320 of know about the three Thanksgiving Games because of the 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.600 Circus Survivor contest. Right, everybody's been talking about it for 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.799 a week, so I kind of know that these are 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.359 round pickcoms, but I'll tell you kind of exactly where 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.080 I think they'll be. But just so everybody knows, for 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.720 these three games, I kind of already have a sense. 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.560 Let us begin with the first of the three Thanksgiving games, sir, 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.519 And what a horrible game this Israel and she's to 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.840 start Thanksgiving Houston at Detroit. Yeah, and Houston was the 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.680 one that that got me the most last week. Remember 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.800 a week ago, I was like, how is how is 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.079 Houston a pickom or or favorite? When we did this 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.160 Monday morning, And it only took, you know, took less 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.440 than twenty four hours for it to come to my 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.720 guests of New England minus two and a half. But 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.760 in the end, Houston wins it out right, twenty seven 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.640 to twenty uh beat the Patriots. Deshaun Watson eighteen of 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.160 twenty three for two forty one two touchdowns, five for 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.079 thirty three on the ground uh at a touchdown run 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.560 where he just destroyed a couple of Patriots defenders. By 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.760 the way, those were his first half stats. Pardon me. 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.760 Eighteen for twenty three for two forty one for two touchdowns, 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.880 five thirty four touchdown in the first half. Houston had 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.400 a season high two hundred seventy four yards in the 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.880 first half. All but three of those yards came from 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.600 Watson himself, as he threw for two forty one and 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.760 added the thirty rushing for the game thirty seven three 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.079 forty four, two touchdowns, no picks, wasn't sacked now him 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.600 not being sacked his news six carries for thirty six 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.200 in that touchdown, first one of the season for the 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:39.600 Texans against the team other than Jacksonville or in Romeo Cornella. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.080 Rare victory by a former Belichick assistant against his former boss. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.880 Texans NFL worst run defense held the Patriots to eighty 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.400 six yards rushing after they entered the game, averaging a 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.200 hundred sixty one point one yards a game. Randall Cobb 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.920 did get injured, injured a foot on the touchdown, didn't return, 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.200 Kenny Stills injured a leg in the first half, didn't return. 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:00.480 And then there's Detroit. Detroit gets blanked by Carolina twenty 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.400 to nothing. Stafford was eighteen for thirty three, one seventy eight, 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.880 no touchdowns, no picks, sacked five times played despite a 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:08.960 thumb injury that prevented him from taking a snap under 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.160 center all week. They were without the Lions were DeAndre Swift, 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.040 Kenny Golladay, and Danny Amendola. They only had ten first 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.799 downs Chris there were only three or fourteen on third downs, 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.160 one of three on four. Caroline is d which was 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.440 allowing opponents to convert a season high fifty five point 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.160 three percent of third down opportunities, crushed him on third 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.960 downs again, three for fourteen, only a hundred eighty five 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.479 total yards, only forty yards rushing for the Lions out 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.320 possessed by Carolina thirty sixty eight to twenty three twelve 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.640 blanked for the first time since October eighteenth, two thousand nine, 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.200 Stafford's rookie season, though he didn't play in that game. 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.880 So I listen, you know how I am about Houston 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.760 in this market. I tend to underrate them every week. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.680 So I would have had this despite everything that happened yesterday. 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.159 I would have this game as a pick them. But 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.520 I'm gonna guess Houston is about a point and a 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.160 half favorite. And before you go, because we got to 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:02.359 hit the stay should I d here? Let's Jason is 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:06.159 waving at me. Uh, let's just say that on the Uh, 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.520 this is the first of three games one is going 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.280 to have to have to navigate for survivor, and God 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.479 help us all skill, Alexander. It's Chris Andrews. This is 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.960 guessing lines for Week twelve in the National Football League. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:21.960 So I'll say Houston minus one and a half. Okay, 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:23.680 first one in the day. You know, I like your 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.239 number better. Uh, it's more like two and a half. 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:29.200 I see a lot of two and a half the 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.760 juice on the favorite. I see one three juice on 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:37.760 the dog. Um yeah, I like my First of all, 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:39.719 let me just say this a couple of things. First 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.040 of all, my power ratings are just a place to start. 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.960 Number one. Number two. I'm not giving anybody anything for 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.760 home field, even though home Field kind of showed up yesterday. 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.520 Uh my, my power ratings come to one and a half. However, 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.280 you know, the Lions look so in theft on offense. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.599 I mean that that's one of the worst I've seen 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.400 all year. I mean they got shut out, you know, 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:05.160 by a team it's not that great on defense. Um. So, 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.120 like I said, my power rams come to one and 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:10.400 a half. You know, I think I know I am 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:15.280 gonna openness two and a half, but I'd be very, 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:20.120 very pretty careful. You know, there's one of these trends 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.640 systems that I look at. I mean, not any of 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:27.680 them because most of my make are datamining. But the 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.080 one that I do look at is when you go 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:36.279 from home dog for a road favorite. That's that second 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.920 game the road favorite very very rarely coming. I'm not never, 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.600 it's it's in the high sixties, like about sixty eight 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:48.280 percent if you're a bet against. So I'm very I'm 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:52.240 leary about that. Um. You know, Stafford played the whole game, 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.040 but it's come was hurting and he didn't have any 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.760 help on offense at all. Defense played. Okay, I guess 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.359 um it's I am gonna open to an half. I 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:05.240 think the public will beyond the Texans, and I'd be 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.240 very I'd tread very very carefully here. Yeah. And like 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.120 I said, Chris, like I only make it one and 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.160 a half because I figured Recencly will make it one 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:13.600 and a half. But to me this is just a 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.880 straight pick them too, I mean, because we don't agree. Again, 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:22.080 they were without Swift Gola day and Amundola yesterday, so 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.360 that matters Obviously we'll check on their status as the 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.760 Thursday game approaches. All three of those guys. Washington at 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.760 Dallas is the second one. I know this because it's 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.360 always that and this is the greatest rivalry in sports, 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:35.680 So you don't even have to tell me that this 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.320 is the next one. I know that this is the 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:43.200 next one. Washington beat Cincinnati yesterday. Obviously, the big headline 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.720 there is that Joe Burrow h a c l out 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:51.080 for the year. Gruesome injury. Um. They freeze framed it 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:55.160 on on red zone yesterday and it was like, stops, 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:58.520 we please take this off the screen. It was brutal, Lord, 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:03.440 poor Joe Burrow. It was awful. But Washington wins. Alex Smith, 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.240 speaking of you know, grewsome leg injuries. He certainly knows 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.920 about that. Seventeen for five, one sixty six, one touchdown, 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.760 one pick, sack twice. Terry McLaurin is always filling up 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:17.480 a statute. Five eighty four Dallas breaking a four game 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.240 losing streak, beating Minnesota Dalton thirty two for two oh three, 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.880 three touchdowns, one pick, He was sacked once, and Zeke 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:28.120 with his first one hundred yard rushing game of the season. 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.520 Took eleven weeks. He had twenty one carries for a 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:36.680 hundred and three yards. UM Washington to Dallas, I'll say 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:42.439 Dallas minus two and a half. Uh, you're right on 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.360 it is two and a half. I see some twon 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:50.160 half juice on the favorite that maybe a couple threes 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.880 juice on the dog. My power ratings once again can 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.000 ne one. But I think I have to look at 0:08:56.040 --> 0:09:00.000 this a little more closely. Uh. Hang, I sent me 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.840 the beginning. I think Andy Dalton will do really well 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.720 in this offense, you know, and I mean, yeah, they're 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:09.560 gonna miss Dak Prescott for sure, but and Dalton, I 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.800 think we'll be able to distribute the ball to you 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.600 know what is some pretty good offensive talent. Other defense 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.480 are still horrible. He's not gonna do anything to help 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.160 their defense that maybe keep them off the field a 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.480 little bit and having in better field position over the 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.320 course of the game. But I think Andy Dalton is 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:29.559 pretty good here and UM in a good spot with 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.760 this team if he stays healthy, and there's no reason 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.960 to think he's not going to So I am opening 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.200 two and a half. I said, my tire ring has 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.040 come a little lower, but I'm gonna have to look 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.959 at them again, because I think Dalton does elevate this team, 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:45.760 probably a little bit more than I gave him credit 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.600 for him which had already given him quite a bit 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.840 of credit. So I think to an absolutely good place 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.720 to start here. Yeah, I think that's uh, that's probably 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.120 where it should be. But once again, for survivor purposes, 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:59.800 complete winging, a prayer, complete prayer, uh. The winner of 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.480 the game, assuming there's a winner, and out of tie. 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.640 The winner of this game, by the way, ties would 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:09.120 eliminate both Survivor's side, But the winner of this game, 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.920 if there is a winner, will lead the NFC East 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.559 at least temporarily for at least three days at four 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.280 and seven. How about that? All right? The third game 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.520 on Thanksgiving it again for those who missed the opener. 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.079 I kind of know again because of all the survivor 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:28.240 talk last week, where these lines are generally for the 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:35.320 Thanksgiving games. Third one is Ravens at the Steelers. Now, 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.520 this has the potential, and I do mean potential, to 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.319 be the best game on Thanksgiving, But after the Ravens yesterday, 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:46.079 who knows, Baltimore loses to Tennessee. About the only thing 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.400 I got right from an A T. S perspective yesterday 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.280 lose to Tennessee thirty to twenty four in overtime. Lamar 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:57.040 Jackson seventeen six, one touchdown, one pick, sack once thirteen 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.680 carries for fifty one On the ground. Baltimore was good 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.720 on third downs, they were nine of fifteen, but they trailed. 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.920 Excuse me, Tennessee rather trailed early in the third quarter 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:11.600 and sixteen late in regulation before launching a ninety yard 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.880 drive which was all about Derrick Henry and some nice 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.400 throws from Ryan Tannehill mixed in between. On third down 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.600 from the Baltimore fourteen, A. J. Brown caught a short 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:24.320 pass on the right side, broke four tackles before scoring 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.000 while standing up with two eighteen left, just an unbelievable 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.760 play by Brown. Uh Tannehill then ran in. The conversion 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.520 was twenty four to twenty one. Lamar drives the Ravens 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.520 to the ten before Tucker kicks at twenty nine yard 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.840 or with fifteen seconds left to force overtime, and then 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:43.120 Henry twenty nine yards scamper with five twenty one left 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:47.320 and overtime to cap the victory again thirty to twenty four. 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:51.000 Pittsburgh tennan oh first time in franchise history. And don't 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:52.560 you know it, Christy is a guy who grew up 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.320 on the Steelers. Big Ben was thirty two of forty 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:59.640 six yesterday in the h Steelers win against Jacksonville seven 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.719 to three. You win easily covering the ten and a 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.080 half point closing line. He was thirty two or forty 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.600 six or two sixty seven, two touchdowns, one pick, no 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.840 no sex. But I will tell you this, watching as 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.800 much of this game as I did, big Ben had 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:18.679 about five jaw dropping passes that were just unbelievably placed. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.480 I have never seen this guy play better than he 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.640 is right now. Deonte Johnson twelve for one eleven that 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.880 was his primary target. Uh though Claypool got another score 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.199 and their plus three in turnovers the Steelers warning that game. 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.480 That's usually all you need to know. Four turnovers for Jacksonville. 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.120 I believe it was all for Jake Luton picks. It 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:40.480 was indeed, UM thirty thirty one in time of possession 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.960 over Jacksonville. Juju appeared to tweak his foot though while 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.439 stepping on an official's yellow flag. Did you see that 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.760 when he was running off the field, sort of jogging 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.439 off the field in the fourth quarter. That was weird. 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.880 Had never seen that before. So we'll check on that 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.360 through the week. But it's Baltimore at Pittsburgh, and I'll 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:59.320 just say it's Pittsburgh minus three. Figuring that after yesterday, 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:04.200 that's probable where it's locked in. Well, that's been where 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.320 been locked in for years when these two teams faced 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:11.960 each other. There's been a couple of aberrations. Certainly, once again, 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:17.320 I see three and a half, um, and I don't 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.320 like your number better in this case. In fact, my 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.120 power ratings come the four and a half in this game. 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.080 I'm not sure where the public is gonna go here, 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.199 because I know a lot of guys it's an automatic 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.880 take when these two teams playing, it's hanging over three. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.560 But I gotta tell you it looked four. The last 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.440 five games the Patriots have not played well. Now they 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:41.719 have a win in there. Who did they beat? Uh? 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:50.079 They beat somebody, Dad, Baltimore be the Eagles, Baltimore, Yes, Baltimore, Baltimore. 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.240 Uh they have They beat the Eagles thirty eight, So 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.040 I don't give them too much credit for that other 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.199 than that. So the beat the Eagles lost to the 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.240 Dealers beat the Colts, which was a you know, good game, 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.200 very good performance. Lots of the Patriots, loss of the Titans. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.640 I mean right now, I mean, I think this team 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.600 is dropping. I think people made me figured out Jackson 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.360 as good as a player he is. They figured out 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.520 the offense and what those guys are trying to do. Um, 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.280 you know hard Bough. Uh. You know I've always I've 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.080 sunk in his praises every since, ever since we've been 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.480 on this show, Gil, But you know, it was just 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.880 kind of a weird thing with the half of the game. 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:31.280 He wouldn't shake hands. Uh. And there's just some weird 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:35.840 stuff going on right now with with this team, and uh, 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.000 I think they're coming into a situation, you know, just 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.960 just not a good spot. I mean, I like the 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.640 Steelers here, and you know, I know all my biases 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.600 and all that, but I'm telling you, I keep my 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:51.840 power ratings is unbiased as possible. And they come to 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:53.560 four and a half, and I think that's a more 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.360 legitimate number. I like the Steelers here, how open three 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.200 and a half? If I see it, I see it 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.080 three and a half? Would you some the dog? I 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.680 see a couple of threes juice on the favorite, so 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.480 they'll probably take the three and a half off me, 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.800 at least initially. Yeah, I have a feeling. Comes Thursday night, 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.760 I'm probably gonna need to raise this because I think 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.760 the public will come back in on the speelers. Do 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.280 you have a good sense of that kind of stuff? 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:18.240 You would know? Um. The tension between Vrabel and Harball, 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.760 I guess started before the game when the Titans I guessed, 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.760 had had a sort of impromptu or maybe it wasn't 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.600 so impromptu meeting on the center of the field, and 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.240 I guess Harbaugh objected to that, and that's where the 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.560 words started. Even before the game started. I didn't know 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.040 that he refused to shake his hand at the end 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:37.680 of the game. So do you agree with me? By 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.240 the way, about Big Ben? Like, there are some passes 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.880 he throws, like third down conversions to the sidelines, let 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.680 alone the touchdown passes, But some of those third down conversions, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.400 there is one spot you can put that football, and 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.280 he's so good that we take it for granted and 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.120 the announcers don't even react to it. I'm like, you know, difficult, 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.880 that pass was right there. I've never seen him play 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:04.600 better than this. You know, there's accuracy is super important. Processing. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.160 I think it is really important and right now, uh, 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.360 you know, I put him in there with Rogers my 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:16.600 homes as far as processing quickly and delivering the ball 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.480 with accuracy. And if you could do that consistently in 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.160 the NFL, you know, you have a hell of an offense. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.880 I'm still a little worried about their their running game. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.240 I don't think it's very good. You know, the defense 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.040 I think looks fantastic. But I mean, right now, this 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.440 is a This is a really really good team with 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.560 a lot of balance. I like that other than the 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.720 running game, and their offense relies on Big Ben. But 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.280 you know, so far, so good as far as that goes. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:45.120 And I think their defense is really just terrific, and uh, 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.440 you know, I think they deserve to be more than 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.000 a Carena point favorite in this spot. So I do 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.480 like this Stealers. Hey, Chris, what do you think about 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:59.240 Big Ben for m v P? I know he does, 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:04.600 and uh, how can he not be in the conversation? 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.679 Thank you? I mean, I don't know who's gonna win it. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.639 You know, he has to be in the conversation absolutely, 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.200 I mean the teams tending up and he's playing fantastic 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:18.399 and you know, I don't know, Oh, Mahomes, Mahomes and 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.840 Rogers Rogers. I would say it's a three person conversation. Yeah, 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.000 I think it's more a Tomlin. Yeah, I think it's 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.239 more a Mike Tomlin thing. But further they go, by 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:29.840 the way, do you think last thing about the Steelers, 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:31.919 because we have a there's a there's a prop in 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.280 some spots, will they go sixteen? And know? Do you 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:38.040 think they will care about that late in the season 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.639 if they have a cushion. Let's say they're two games 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.800 clear of Kansas City, which is a big if, but 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.040 let's just say they are and they got nothing to 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.320 play for. Do you think they'll care about sixteen and no? 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.640 Knowing what you know about these guys, yeah, I think 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.920 don't care about Okay, I think they care more about 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.560 the boy interesting, Okay, let's do one on Saturday, Chris, 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:03.120 just are these guys are uper competitives? Man? And uh yeah, 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.920 because first of all, what's that sixteen game against Cleveland? Yeah? 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:08.920 Do you think they're gonna be up for that to 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:12.919 get to beat Cleveland? To be sixteen? And oh, they 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.640 would love. It could be a knockout game and potentially 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.720 knockout Cleveland. That's a possible scenario as well. But right now, 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:20.440 as long as the Chiefs are one game back though, 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.000 you know, everything counts, let's do one on Sunday, real quick, Chris, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.640 stay on schedule here now we're flying by the way. 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.000 Before we go any further. Yeah, before we go any further, 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.800 Baltimore right now would be out of the playoffs. That's 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:38.200 how low they sunk. Geez that Okay, there's another good game, 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:42.240 Raiders at the Falcons Raiders last night, Man Derek Carr 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.639 and the Raiders looked really good against the Chiefs for 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.360 the second time obviously one the first time yesterday. Did 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.120 not quite get the win, lost thirty five to thirty one, 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.280 but absolutely could have won this football game if Patrick 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.920 Mahomes wasn't a cheat code. Complete cheat code. This guy 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.359 Mahomes throwing at twenty two yard touchdown past Travis Kelsey 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.480 twenty eight seconds to play Chiefs, avenging their only loss 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.000 of the season. Uh, they only needed seventy five seconds 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:10.520 to go seventy five yards for another score, with Mahomes 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.200 going six of seven on the drive for for that 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:14.920 last score, I should say with Mahomes going six of 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:16.880 seven on the drive, but Derek Carr was twenty three 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.680 of thirty one for two seventy five, three touchdowns, one pick, 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.720 he wasn't sacked, and the Raiders played without starters Corey 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.320 Littleton in Cleveland Ferrell. And then there's Atlanta. Atlanta gets 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.040 crushed by New Orleans who had Taysom Hill at quarterback. 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.680 Matt Ryan was just it was just a dreadful game 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.760 for them. They were Ryan was nineteen of thirty seven 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.639 for two thirty two, no picks, excuse me, no touchdowns, 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:40.040 two picks. He was sacked eight times, eight three of 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:43.080 which were from Cameron Jordans. By Cameron Jordan's they were 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.800 two of fourteen on third downs, where the Falcons two 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.280 of three on fourth. But two hundred forty eight total 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.320 yards that's it against New Orleans only fifty two rushing. 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:58.000 I'll say the Raiders minus three and a half. Uh yeah, 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.800 that's exactly what my power ratings come two. But the 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.920 number is three, and in this case I like the 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:08.080 three better. Once again, we have another one of these situations. 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.480 I think there's only two this week. You go from 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:15.800 a road home underdog to a road phases, it's the Raiders. So, 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.080 like I said, there's not too many of those trends 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:19.920 that that I buy in, so I think most of 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.080 them are a bunch of crap. But that's one that 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.639 I do look at and over the years at the 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.320 high percentage. So that's the Raiders go from home dog 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:33.560 road favorite. You know, I think Atlanta above the three. 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:35.720 I would I would take Atlanta above the three, but 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.000 I'm gonna open it three and that's pretty much what 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:40.320 I see everywhere. You know, despite that extra hook, I'm 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.840 not exactly running to the counter to beout the Falcons. 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.040 Raiders are seven and three against the spread. Raiders seven 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.680 and three against the spread. For those who who believe 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.359 in such things, it's all brought you by bet MGM S. 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.159 By the way, you know, go ahead, Oh, I was 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.200 gonna interrupt real quick. Derrek Carr at the highest QBR 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:02.000 in the league over the weekend, the nine. He was awesome. 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.280 And by the way, there's a couple dropped passes could 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.439 have gone even better for the Raiders yesterday. All right, 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.359 give me a game here, I'll do the review here 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.320 and we'll get your I'll give you my guests, and 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:16.080