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Speaker 1: Gil how are you I am? I'm good? You know.
Speaker 1: Not a great contest. We get had a great E
Speaker 1: d As weekend, but uh, survivor gets through and uh
Speaker 1: it's a short lived celebration on that. But it was
Speaker 1: pretty rocking, Cherry, you had the one survivor pick. I
Speaker 1: think that uh, Chargers not. Yeah, that was not stressful.
Speaker 1: But three days from now is Thanksgiving, and so as
Speaker 1: I've said from the beginning, it's all great planning till Thanksgiving. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then it's all great planning after that. But Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: itself total winging a prayer. We'll get to that. Well,
Speaker 1: it's everything that happened in the NFL yesterday. This is
Speaker 1: guessing lines for week twelve. True, would you will start
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Speaker 1: Chrissie andrews, how you doing, Chris? I'm doing great, Yo.
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing well. You had a good
Speaker 1: weekend from a book's perspective, did you? We had? We
Speaker 1: have pretty good Saturday, and we had a great Sunday.
Speaker 1: I can't great Sunday. Well, good for you, he says, derisively.
Speaker 1: Good for you. Um, we will, I always say, never cry.
Speaker 1: We will hardly do that. Um. All right, we'll get
Speaker 1: into everything from yesterday. We'll get in everything moving forward.
Speaker 1: We'll getting everything from yesterday as we discuss what's going
Speaker 1: on for those just landing on this show for the
Speaker 1: first time. I have what I typically do is I
Speaker 1: get in a cocoon. I don't. I don't know any
Speaker 1: of the lines. I guess what I think they will be.
Speaker 1: Chrissie tells us what he's going post at the end
Speaker 1: of the show, and within that exercise we extract value.
Speaker 1: But Chris, let me start today by saying, I kind
Speaker 1: of know about the three Thanksgiving Games because of the
Speaker 1: Circus Survivor contest. Right, everybody's been talking about it for
Speaker 1: a week, so I kind of know that these are
Speaker 1: round pickcoms, but I'll tell you kind of exactly where
Speaker 1: I think they'll be. But just so everybody knows, for
Speaker 1: these three games, I kind of already have a sense.
Speaker 1: Let us begin with the first of the three Thanksgiving games, sir,
Speaker 1: And what a horrible game this Israel and she's to
Speaker 1: start Thanksgiving Houston at Detroit. Yeah, and Houston was the
Speaker 1: one that that got me the most last week. Remember
Speaker 1: a week ago, I was like, how is how is
Speaker 1: Houston a pickom or or favorite? When we did this
Speaker 1: Monday morning, And it only took, you know, took less
Speaker 1: than twenty four hours for it to come to my
Speaker 1: guests of New England minus two and a half. But
Speaker 1: in the end, Houston wins it out right, twenty seven
Speaker 1: to twenty uh beat the Patriots. Deshaun Watson eighteen of
Speaker 1: twenty three for two forty one two touchdowns, five for
Speaker 1: thirty three on the ground uh at a touchdown run
Speaker 1: where he just destroyed a couple of Patriots defenders. By
Speaker 1: the way, those were his first half stats. Pardon me.
Speaker 1: Eighteen for twenty three for two forty one for two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: five thirty four touchdown in the first half. Houston had
Speaker 1: a season high two hundred seventy four yards in the
Speaker 1: first half. All but three of those yards came from
Speaker 1: Watson himself, as he threw for two forty one and
Speaker 1: added the thirty rushing for the game thirty seven three
Speaker 1: forty four, two touchdowns, no picks, wasn't sacked now him
Speaker 1: not being sacked his news six carries for thirty six
Speaker 1: in that touchdown, first one of the season for the
Speaker 1: Texans against the team other than Jacksonville or in Romeo Cornella.
Speaker 1: Rare victory by a former Belichick assistant against his former boss.
Speaker 1: Texans NFL worst run defense held the Patriots to eighty
Speaker 1: six yards rushing after they entered the game, averaging a
Speaker 1: hundred sixty one point one yards a game. Randall Cobb
Speaker 1: did get injured, injured a foot on the touchdown, didn't return,
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills injured a leg in the first half, didn't return.
Speaker 1: And then there's Detroit. Detroit gets blanked by Carolina twenty
Speaker 1: to nothing. Stafford was eighteen for thirty three, one seventy eight,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, no picks, sacked five times played despite a
Speaker 1: thumb injury that prevented him from taking a snap under
Speaker 1: center all week. They were without the Lions were DeAndre Swift,
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay, and Danny Amendola. They only had ten first
Speaker 1: downs Chris there were only three or fourteen on third downs,
Speaker 1: one of three on four. Caroline is d which was
Speaker 1: allowing opponents to convert a season high fifty five point
Speaker 1: three percent of third down opportunities, crushed him on third
Speaker 1: downs again, three for fourteen, only a hundred eighty five
Speaker 1: total yards, only forty yards rushing for the Lions out
Speaker 1: possessed by Carolina thirty sixty eight to twenty three twelve
Speaker 1: blanked for the first time since October eighteenth, two thousand nine,
Speaker 1: Stafford's rookie season, though he didn't play in that game.
Speaker 1: So I listen, you know how I am about Houston
Speaker 1: in this market. I tend to underrate them every week.
Speaker 1: So I would have had this despite everything that happened yesterday.
Speaker 1: I would have this game as a pick them. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess Houston is about a point and a
Speaker 1: half favorite. And before you go, because we got to
Speaker 1: hit the stay should I d here? Let's Jason is
Speaker 1: waving at me. Uh, let's just say that on the Uh,
Speaker 1: this is the first of three games one is going
Speaker 1: to have to have to navigate for survivor, and God
Speaker 1: help us all skill, Alexander. It's Chris Andrews. This is
Speaker 1: guessing lines for Week twelve in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: So I'll say Houston minus one and a half. Okay,
Speaker 1: first one in the day. You know, I like your
Speaker 1: number better. Uh, it's more like two and a half.
Speaker 1: I see a lot of two and a half the
Speaker 1: juice on the favorite. I see one three juice on
Speaker 1: the dog. Um yeah, I like my First of all,
Speaker 1: let me just say this a couple of things. First
Speaker 1: of all, my power ratings are just a place to start.
Speaker 1: Number one. Number two. I'm not giving anybody anything for
Speaker 1: home field, even though home Field kind of showed up yesterday.
Speaker 1: Uh my, my power ratings come to one and a half. However,
Speaker 1: you know, the Lions look so in theft on offense.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's one of the worst I've seen
Speaker 1: all year. I mean they got shut out, you know,
Speaker 1: by a team it's not that great on defense. Um. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, my power rams come to one and
Speaker 1: a half. You know, I think I know I am
Speaker 1: gonna openness two and a half, but I'd be very,
Speaker 1: very pretty careful. You know, there's one of these trends
Speaker 1: systems that I look at. I mean, not any of
Speaker 1: them because most of my make are datamining. But the
Speaker 1: one that I do look at is when you go
Speaker 1: from home dog for a road favorite. That's that second
Speaker 1: game the road favorite very very rarely coming. I'm not never,
Speaker 1: it's it's in the high sixties, like about sixty eight
Speaker 1: percent if you're a bet against. So I'm very I'm
Speaker 1: leary about that. Um. You know, Stafford played the whole game,
Speaker 1: but it's come was hurting and he didn't have any
Speaker 1: help on offense at all. Defense played. Okay, I guess
Speaker 1: um it's I am gonna open to an half. I
Speaker 1: think the public will beyond the Texans, and I'd be
Speaker 1: very I'd tread very very carefully here. Yeah. And like
Speaker 1: I said, Chris, like I only make it one and
Speaker 1: a half because I figured Recencly will make it one
Speaker 1: and a half. But to me this is just a
Speaker 1: straight pick them too, I mean, because we don't agree. Again,
Speaker 1: they were without Swift Gola day and Amundola yesterday, so
Speaker 1: that matters Obviously we'll check on their status as the
Speaker 1: Thursday game approaches. All three of those guys. Washington at
Speaker 1: Dallas is the second one. I know this because it's
Speaker 1: always that and this is the greatest rivalry in sports,
Speaker 1: So you don't even have to tell me that this
Speaker 1: is the next one. I know that this is the
Speaker 1: next one. Washington beat Cincinnati yesterday. Obviously, the big headline
Speaker 1: there is that Joe Burrow h a c l out
Speaker 1: for the year. Gruesome injury. Um. They freeze framed it
Speaker 1: on on red zone yesterday and it was like, stops,
Speaker 1: we please take this off the screen. It was brutal, Lord,
Speaker 1: poor Joe Burrow. It was awful. But Washington wins. Alex Smith,
Speaker 1: speaking of you know, grewsome leg injuries. He certainly knows
Speaker 1: about that. Seventeen for five, one sixty six, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: one pick, sack twice. Terry McLaurin is always filling up
Speaker 1: a statute. Five eighty four Dallas breaking a four game
Speaker 1: losing streak, beating Minnesota Dalton thirty two for two oh three,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, one pick, He was sacked once, and Zeke
Speaker 1: with his first one hundred yard rushing game of the season.
Speaker 1: Took eleven weeks. He had twenty one carries for a
Speaker 1: hundred and three yards. UM Washington to Dallas, I'll say
Speaker 1: Dallas minus two and a half. Uh, you're right on
Speaker 1: it is two and a half. I see some twon
Speaker 1: half juice on the favorite that maybe a couple threes
Speaker 1: juice on the dog. My power ratings once again can
Speaker 1: ne one. But I think I have to look at
Speaker 1: this a little more closely. Uh. Hang, I sent me
Speaker 1: the beginning. I think Andy Dalton will do really well
Speaker 1: in this offense, you know, and I mean, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: gonna miss Dak Prescott for sure, but and Dalton, I
Speaker 1: think we'll be able to distribute the ball to you
Speaker 1: know what is some pretty good offensive talent. Other defense
Speaker 1: are still horrible. He's not gonna do anything to help
Speaker 1: their defense that maybe keep them off the field a
Speaker 1: little bit and having in better field position over the
Speaker 1: course of the game. But I think Andy Dalton is
Speaker 1: pretty good here and UM in a good spot with
Speaker 1: this team if he stays healthy, and there's no reason
Speaker 1: to think he's not going to So I am opening
Speaker 1: two and a half. I said, my tire ring has
Speaker 1: come a little lower, but I'm gonna have to look
Speaker 1: at them again, because I think Dalton does elevate this team,
Speaker 1: probably a little bit more than I gave him credit
Speaker 1: for him which had already given him quite a bit
Speaker 1: of credit. So I think to an absolutely good place
Speaker 1: to start here. Yeah, I think that's uh, that's probably
Speaker 1: where it should be. But once again, for survivor purposes,
Speaker 1: complete winging, a prayer, complete prayer, uh. The winner of
Speaker 1: the game, assuming there's a winner, and out of tie.
Speaker 1: The winner of this game, by the way, ties would
Speaker 1: eliminate both Survivor's side, But the winner of this game,
Speaker 1: if there is a winner, will lead the NFC East
Speaker 1: at least temporarily for at least three days at four
Speaker 1: and seven. How about that? All right? The third game
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving it again for those who missed the opener.
Speaker 1: I kind of know again because of all the survivor
Speaker 1: talk last week, where these lines are generally for the
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving games. Third one is Ravens at the Steelers. Now,
Speaker 1: this has the potential, and I do mean potential, to
Speaker 1: be the best game on Thanksgiving, But after the Ravens yesterday,
Speaker 1: who knows, Baltimore loses to Tennessee. About the only thing
Speaker 1: I got right from an A T. S perspective yesterday
Speaker 1: lose to Tennessee thirty to twenty four in overtime. Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson seventeen six, one touchdown, one pick, sack once thirteen
Speaker 1: carries for fifty one On the ground. Baltimore was good
Speaker 1: on third downs, they were nine of fifteen, but they trailed.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Tennessee rather trailed early in the third quarter
Speaker 1: and sixteen late in regulation before launching a ninety yard
Speaker 1: drive which was all about Derrick Henry and some nice
Speaker 1: throws from Ryan Tannehill mixed in between. On third down
Speaker 1: from the Baltimore fourteen, A. J. Brown caught a short
Speaker 1: pass on the right side, broke four tackles before scoring
Speaker 1: while standing up with two eighteen left, just an unbelievable
Speaker 1: play by Brown. Uh Tannehill then ran in. The conversion
Speaker 1: was twenty four to twenty one. Lamar drives the Ravens
Speaker 1: to the ten before Tucker kicks at twenty nine yard
Speaker 1: or with fifteen seconds left to force overtime, and then
Speaker 1: Henry twenty nine yards scamper with five twenty one left
Speaker 1: and overtime to cap the victory again thirty to twenty four.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh tennan oh first time in franchise history. And don't
Speaker 1: you know it, Christy is a guy who grew up
Speaker 1: on the Steelers. Big Ben was thirty two of forty
Speaker 1: six yesterday in the h Steelers win against Jacksonville seven
Speaker 1: to three. You win easily covering the ten and a
Speaker 1: half point closing line. He was thirty two or forty
Speaker 1: six or two sixty seven, two touchdowns, one pick, no
Speaker 1: no sex. But I will tell you this, watching as
Speaker 1: much of this game as I did, big Ben had
Speaker 1: about five jaw dropping passes that were just unbelievably placed.
Speaker 1: I have never seen this guy play better than he
Speaker 1: is right now. Deonte Johnson twelve for one eleven that
Speaker 1: was his primary target. Uh though Claypool got another score
Speaker 1: and their plus three in turnovers the Steelers warning that game.
Speaker 1: That's usually all you need to know. Four turnovers for Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: I believe it was all for Jake Luton picks. It
Speaker 1: was indeed, UM thirty thirty one in time of possession
Speaker 1: over Jacksonville. Juju appeared to tweak his foot though while
Speaker 1: stepping on an official's yellow flag. Did you see that
Speaker 1: when he was running off the field, sort of jogging
Speaker 1: off the field in the fourth quarter. That was weird.
Speaker 1: Had never seen that before. So we'll check on that
Speaker 1: through the week. But it's Baltimore at Pittsburgh, and I'll
Speaker 1: just say it's Pittsburgh minus three. Figuring that after yesterday,
Speaker 1: that's probable where it's locked in. Well, that's been where
Speaker 1: been locked in for years when these two teams faced
Speaker 1: each other. There's been a couple of aberrations. Certainly, once again,
Speaker 1: I see three and a half, um, and I don't
Speaker 1: like your number better in this case. In fact, my
Speaker 1: power ratings come the four and a half in this game.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where the public is gonna go here,
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of guys it's an automatic
Speaker 1: take when these two teams playing, it's hanging over three.
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you it looked four. The last
Speaker 1: five games the Patriots have not played well. Now they
Speaker 1: have a win in there. Who did they beat? Uh?
Speaker 1: They beat somebody, Dad, Baltimore be the Eagles, Baltimore, Yes, Baltimore, Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Uh they have They beat the Eagles thirty eight, So
Speaker 1: I don't give them too much credit for that other
Speaker 1: than that. So the beat the Eagles lost to the
Speaker 1: Dealers beat the Colts, which was a you know, good game,
Speaker 1: very good performance. Lots of the Patriots, loss of the Titans.
Speaker 1: I mean right now, I mean, I think this team
Speaker 1: is dropping. I think people made me figured out Jackson
Speaker 1: as good as a player he is. They figured out
Speaker 1: the offense and what those guys are trying to do. Um,
Speaker 1: you know hard Bough. Uh. You know I've always I've
Speaker 1: sunk in his praises every since, ever since we've been
Speaker 1: on this show, Gil, But you know, it was just
Speaker 1: kind of a weird thing with the half of the game.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't shake hands. Uh. And there's just some weird
Speaker 1: stuff going on right now with with this team, and uh,
Speaker 1: I think they're coming into a situation, you know, just
Speaker 1: just not a good spot. I mean, I like the
Speaker 1: Steelers here, and you know, I know all my biases
Speaker 1: and all that, but I'm telling you, I keep my
Speaker 1: power ratings is unbiased as possible. And they come to
Speaker 1: four and a half, and I think that's a more
Speaker 1: legitimate number. I like the Steelers here, how open three
Speaker 1: and a half? If I see it, I see it
Speaker 1: three and a half? Would you some the dog? I
Speaker 1: see a couple of threes juice on the favorite, so
Speaker 1: they'll probably take the three and a half off me,
Speaker 1: at least initially. Yeah, I have a feeling. Comes Thursday night,
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna need to raise this because I think
Speaker 1: the public will come back in on the speelers. Do
Speaker 1: you have a good sense of that kind of stuff?
Speaker 1: You would know? Um. The tension between Vrabel and Harball,
Speaker 1: I guess started before the game when the Titans I guessed,
Speaker 1: had had a sort of impromptu or maybe it wasn't
Speaker 1: so impromptu meeting on the center of the field, and
Speaker 1: I guess Harbaugh objected to that, and that's where the
Speaker 1: words started. Even before the game started. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that he refused to shake his hand at the end
Speaker 1: of the game. So do you agree with me? By
Speaker 1: the way, about Big Ben? Like, there are some passes
Speaker 1: he throws, like third down conversions to the sidelines, let
Speaker 1: alone the touchdown passes, But some of those third down conversions,
Speaker 1: there is one spot you can put that football, and
Speaker 1: he's so good that we take it for granted and
Speaker 1: the announcers don't even react to it. I'm like, you know, difficult,
Speaker 1: that pass was right there. I've never seen him play
Speaker 1: better than this. You know, there's accuracy is super important. Processing.
Speaker 1: I think it is really important and right now, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I put him in there with Rogers my
Speaker 1: homes as far as processing quickly and delivering the ball
Speaker 1: with accuracy. And if you could do that consistently in
Speaker 1: the NFL, you know, you have a hell of an offense.
Speaker 1: I'm still a little worried about their their running game.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's very good. You know, the defense
Speaker 1: I think looks fantastic. But I mean, right now, this
Speaker 1: is a This is a really really good team with
Speaker 1: a lot of balance. I like that other than the
Speaker 1: running game, and their offense relies on Big Ben. But
Speaker 1: you know, so far, so good as far as that goes.
Speaker 1: And I think their defense is really just terrific, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I think they deserve to be more than
Speaker 1: a Carena point favorite in this spot. So I do
Speaker 1: like this Stealers. Hey, Chris, what do you think about
Speaker 1: Big Ben for m v P? I know he does,
Speaker 1: and uh, how can he not be in the conversation?
Speaker 1: Thank you? I mean, I don't know who's gonna win it.
Speaker 1: You know, he has to be in the conversation absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean the teams tending up and he's playing fantastic
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know, Oh, Mahomes, Mahomes and
Speaker 1: Rogers Rogers. I would say it's a three person conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's more a Tomlin. Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: more a Mike Tomlin thing. But further they go, by
Speaker 1: the way, do you think last thing about the Steelers,
Speaker 1: because we have a there's a there's a prop in
Speaker 1: some spots, will they go sixteen? And know? Do you
Speaker 1: think they will care about that late in the season
Speaker 1: if they have a cushion. Let's say they're two games
Speaker 1: clear of Kansas City, which is a big if, but
Speaker 1: let's just say they are and they got nothing to
Speaker 1: play for. Do you think they'll care about sixteen and no?
Speaker 1: Knowing what you know about these guys, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: don't care about Okay, I think they care more about
Speaker 1: the boy interesting, Okay, let's do one on Saturday, Chris,
Speaker 1: just are these guys are uper competitives? Man? And uh yeah,
Speaker 1: because first of all, what's that sixteen game against Cleveland? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you think they're gonna be up for that to
Speaker 1: get to beat Cleveland? To be sixteen? And oh, they
Speaker 1: would love. It could be a knockout game and potentially
Speaker 1: knockout Cleveland. That's a possible scenario as well. But right now,
Speaker 1: as long as the Chiefs are one game back though,
Speaker 1: you know, everything counts, let's do one on Sunday, real quick, Chris,
Speaker 1: stay on schedule here now we're flying by the way.
Speaker 1: Before we go any further. Yeah, before we go any further,
Speaker 1: Baltimore right now would be out of the playoffs. That's
Speaker 1: how low they sunk. Geez that Okay, there's another good game,
Speaker 1: Raiders at the Falcons Raiders last night, Man Derek Carr
Speaker 1: and the Raiders looked really good against the Chiefs for
Speaker 1: the second time obviously one the first time yesterday. Did
Speaker 1: not quite get the win, lost thirty five to thirty one,
Speaker 1: but absolutely could have won this football game if Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes wasn't a cheat code. Complete cheat code. This guy
Speaker 1: Mahomes throwing at twenty two yard touchdown past Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: twenty eight seconds to play Chiefs, avenging their only loss
Speaker 1: of the season. Uh, they only needed seventy five seconds
Speaker 1: to go seventy five yards for another score, with Mahomes
Speaker 1: going six of seven on the drive for for that
Speaker 1: last score, I should say with Mahomes going six of
Speaker 1: seven on the drive, but Derek Carr was twenty three
Speaker 1: of thirty one for two seventy five, three touchdowns, one pick,
Speaker 1: he wasn't sacked, and the Raiders played without starters Corey
Speaker 1: Littleton in Cleveland Ferrell. And then there's Atlanta. Atlanta gets
Speaker 1: crushed by New Orleans who had Taysom Hill at quarterback.
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan was just it was just a dreadful game
Speaker 1: for them. They were Ryan was nineteen of thirty seven
Speaker 1: for two thirty two, no picks, excuse me, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: two picks. He was sacked eight times, eight three of
Speaker 1: which were from Cameron Jordans. By Cameron Jordan's they were
Speaker 1: two of fourteen on third downs, where the Falcons two
Speaker 1: of three on fourth. But two hundred forty eight total
Speaker 1: yards that's it against New Orleans only fifty two rushing.
Speaker 1: I'll say the Raiders minus three and a half. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what my power ratings come two. But the
Speaker 1: number is three, and in this case I like the
Speaker 1: three better. Once again, we have another one of these situations.
Speaker 1: I think there's only two this week. You go from
Speaker 1: a road home underdog to a road phases, it's the Raiders. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, there's not too many of those trends
Speaker 1: that that I buy in, so I think most of
Speaker 1: them are a bunch of crap. But that's one that
Speaker 1: I do look at and over the years at the
Speaker 1: high percentage. So that's the Raiders go from home dog
Speaker 1: road favorite. You know, I think Atlanta above the three.
Speaker 1: I would I would take Atlanta above the three, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open it three and that's pretty much what
Speaker 1: I see everywhere. You know, despite that extra hook, I'm
Speaker 1: not exactly running to the counter to beout the Falcons.
Speaker 1: Raiders are seven and three against the spread. Raiders seven
Speaker 1: and three against the spread. For those who who believe
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Speaker 1: By the way, you know, go ahead, Oh, I was
Speaker 1: gonna interrupt real quick. Derrek Carr at the highest QBR
Speaker 1: in the league over the weekend, the nine. He was awesome.
Speaker 1: And by the way, there's a couple dropped passes could
Speaker 1: have gone even better for the Raiders yesterday. All right,
Speaker 1: give me a game here, I'll do the review here
Speaker 1: and we'll get your I'll give you my guests, and
Speaker 1: then we'll go to break what's next here, Cardinals at
Speaker 1: the Patriots, Cardinals at the Patriots. Oh my uh. Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray and the Cardinals will have extra rest here off
Speaker 1: their Thursday night loss to the Seahawks. Again, very strange
Speaker 1: sequence at the end of that game on Thursday night
Speaker 1: where the Cardinals matriculated the ball down the field and
Speaker 1: then with plenty of time, just decided to keep heaving
Speaker 1: it into the end zone. Kyler Murray was twenty nine
Speaker 1: forty two with to sixty nine, two touchdowns, no picksy
Speaker 1: we sacked three times. They had ten penalties for one
Speaker 1: fifteen in that game. They lose by a touchdown, could
Speaker 1: have could have tried to tie it there at the end,
Speaker 1: but again a very strange sequence at the end. And
Speaker 1: then New England, as we already discussed, lose to Houston.
Speaker 1: Cam was twenty six of forty for three sixty five,
Speaker 1: one touchdown, note picks. He was sacked twice. Bird was
Speaker 1: his number one target six for one thirty two and
Speaker 1: a touchdown, first time since two thousand nine. With that loss,
Speaker 1: that the Patriots will have at least six losses in
Speaker 1: a regular season, and that season win total of under
Speaker 1: nine and a half, right on the cusp of being
Speaker 1: grade at a winner at least cashing as a winner,
Speaker 1: being graded at the end of the season. Arizona at
Speaker 1: New England, I'll say, Arizona minus four. As we go
Speaker 1: to break, Chris, you will tell me what he's gonna
Speaker 1: post coming back on a numbers game at Visa these
Speaker 1: sports betting network. Alright, Arizona at New England. I said,
Speaker 1: Arizona minus four, Chris Gilly, Yeah, gave FeliCa is gonna
Speaker 1: cash another bet? I like your number better. Um, I
Speaker 1: was just I was just looking at college basketbax h.
Speaker 1: I gotta get backed at my football huge schedule on Wednesday.
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Speaker 1: sorry the plug there, Okay, the Cardinals at the Patriots.
Speaker 1: What you said? What I said minus four? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: my power ratings come the four and a half. The
Speaker 1: number out there is two and a half with I
Speaker 1: don't see any threes, but two and a half with
Speaker 1: some modest juice on a favorite like a dollar fifteen, dollar,
Speaker 1: twenty ten, fifteen and twenty Yeah, I mean, this team
Speaker 1: has just dropped quite a bit. And the Cardinals listen,
Speaker 1: you know, as well as anyone. I was very slow
Speaker 1: to come around on this team, you know, a quarterback
Speaker 1: and coach both um. But this is a team that's
Speaker 1: really playing well. And I mean this is a very
Speaker 1: legitimate team. And the New England team that's you know,
Speaker 1: I know, they're dropping like a rock. And I don't
Speaker 1: we have the Bilichick factor. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: for handicappers, they actually could be kind of productive because
Speaker 1: you're looking at the past more than you're looking at
Speaker 1: the out and the now is this team is not
Speaker 1: very good. And uh, I think I'm gonna probably open three,
Speaker 1: take a bet, which you know won't take long. Like Rocks,
Speaker 1: he always says, moving game from doing after three and
Speaker 1: see what kind of action you create. But I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open three and take a bet, and I
Speaker 1: think by the end of the week I'll be back
Speaker 1: to three. Three Cardinals are three Patriots. I'm sorry, like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking at whose favoring as the Cardinals. Cardinals
Speaker 1: are favored by three. Sorry Cardinals, Cardinals, are you right here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That my numbers come to four and as I'm surprised
Speaker 1: that there's stuff south of three out there, I really am.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think it will last. Okay, what's next?
Speaker 1: The first place? John know they're in second place. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: second place New York Giants against the Bengals. By the way,
Speaker 1: everybody's playing this week right Thanksgiving? Usually everybody plays Giants
Speaker 1: at Bengals. How many late games do we have, Jason,
Speaker 1: how many afternoon games? It's three afternoon games, but we've
Speaker 1: got the three on thanks Yeah, okay, Giant said Bengals.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, well you know again, if you got by
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving for survivor purposes, the Bengals might have been an
Speaker 1: interesting contrary and sort of survivor play no longer. Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow out of the game yesterday, as we mentioned with Washington,
Speaker 1: and it was just everybody around football just uh, poor
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. It's just uh. He was good about it though.
Speaker 1: He tweeted thanks for all the love. Can't get rid
Speaker 1: of me that easy, See you next year. So he
Speaker 1: knew immediately it was serious, and it was based on
Speaker 1: the pictures leg got contorted Jonathan Allen. Another skin was
Speaker 1: in there, one guy on top, one guy on the bottom.
Speaker 1: Burrow was twenty two of thirty four for two oh three,
Speaker 1: one touchdown, one pick. He was not sacked until that one.
Speaker 1: I guess that was I guess he got rid of
Speaker 1: the ball. Was that? Why that wasn't a sect? Ryan
Speaker 1: Finley came in three of ten for thirty couldn't have
Speaker 1: been worse, no touchdowns, one pick, He was sat four times.
Speaker 1: The Bengals were only three of thirteen on third downs,
Speaker 1: they were oh for two on fourth and the Giants
Speaker 1: had to buy So Giants, as you mentioned, like with
Speaker 1: Washington and Dallas just a half game behind Philadelphia in
Speaker 1: the NFC East, and again who want you do not
Speaker 1: want to win this division? You'll end up with that
Speaker 1: best the nineteenth pick in the draft as opposed to
Speaker 1: what will probably be a top tenor. But the Giants,
Speaker 1: now with his injury, I guess will be like there'll
Speaker 1: be more than a three point favorite. I think, won't
Speaker 1: they be like a four point favorite? Here? Uh, it's
Speaker 1: more like five and a half had six s? I
Speaker 1: do see. I see a couple of four and a halfs.
Speaker 1: I see actually only one six. But then you know,
Speaker 1: like Chris so big store, uh four and a half
Speaker 1: five and a half five six. I lowered my power
Speaker 1: rating on the Bengals. I think they lowered him four
Speaker 1: and a half points. Finley, I mean, he hasn't played much.
Speaker 1: When he has played, he hasn't played that well. His
Speaker 1: college numbers are like okay, uh, but I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think this kid's an NFL starting quarterback. The
Speaker 1: Giants are playing well, They're playing better and better, and
Speaker 1: I think from earlier in the season the Giants would
Speaker 1: be a six point road favorite over anybody. Was just
Speaker 1: you know, somebody would lock you up. But that's what
Speaker 1: my numbers come to. And I do see six, like
Speaker 1: I said at Chris, and I'm gonna open six because uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I just you know, listen, I just don't
Speaker 1: know how how low to adjust the Bengals because I
Speaker 1: think I think Burrow was terrific. I really do. And
Speaker 1: his numbers aren't fantastic, but he this kid is going
Speaker 1: to be a legit corterback. I hope this injury isn't
Speaker 1: too bad. That would be the only they stopped him.
Speaker 1: He I mean, I think this kid very very good.
Speaker 1: He was by any measure, he was, by any measure,
Speaker 1: having a spectacular rookie season. But they didn't TechEd him
Speaker 1: shoddy offensive line and you know this is hardly I mean, look,
Speaker 1: did you do expect someone to tear the ra c
Speaker 1: l and in a horrible injury? No? But could you
Speaker 1: have expected him to get injured in some way? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean based on the base on how many dropbacks.
Speaker 1: I mean, they just they're going nowhere, and they just
Speaker 1: wanted to throw the ball around the yard behind the
Speaker 1: shoddy offensive line all season long. So you kind of
Speaker 1: knew that something like this could happen, and it finally did.
Speaker 1: By the way Ryan Finley, of course, we'll get a
Speaker 1: week to prepare. But to your point about the Giants,
Speaker 1: if you really like dissect their games, they gave the
Speaker 1: Steelers a fight week one before Daniel Jones had a
Speaker 1: couple of killer turnovers. They held the Rams to seventeen
Speaker 1: in a road game. They lost to deck In the
Speaker 1: Cowboys by three. They lost up Philly by one in
Speaker 1: a game they should have won, lost to Tampa by two.
Speaker 1: Right there, They might be the best team in the
Speaker 1: NFC East. I hate to say it, they really might
Speaker 1: be because the Eagles are chronic, you know, letter downers
Speaker 1: every week that lets you down most overrated team in
Speaker 1: the NFL, I said to Matt Brown. And I'm not
Speaker 1: poking at Matt Brown because I felt the same way,
Speaker 1: even though I didn't play it, because he liked the
Speaker 1: case for Philadelphia this week, and I did say to
Speaker 1: them at least I'm so glad I brought up. I go,
Speaker 1: if if the Eagles don't win here, and we'll get
Speaker 1: to the Eagles in a minute, well, will this be
Speaker 1: the proverbial I will never bet on this team again
Speaker 1: kind of thing? And that's I think where they stand
Speaker 1: right now. But anyway, Giants, what are you putting it
Speaker 1: up at Chris against the Bengals. We're halfway through these games,
Speaker 1: if my count is right or no, we're not quite halfway.
Speaker 1: Were six through. I don't like anything yet but Arizona
Speaker 1: because I am not rushing to bet the Bengals here either.
Speaker 1: We'll come back. Uh we're guessing lines week twelve and
Speaker 1: look back to week eleven, coming back right here in
Speaker 1: the numbers game at Visa these Sports Betting Network, looking
Speaker 1: up at the screens here. The American Music Awards were
Speaker 1: on last night. Jason. Apparently, I used to, uh just
Speaker 1: love those award shows as a kid, I I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Are they still relevant to people still watch these shows now?
Speaker 1: I don't know. The American Music Awards just seems like
Speaker 1: a thrived um awards ceremony to me. The Grammys at
Speaker 1: least makes sense, right, I don't know what the Music awards,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I kind of associated American Music
Speaker 1: Awards as the Golden Globes and the Grammy's as the Oscars,
Speaker 1: and I think the more casual one is votes for
Speaker 1: the American Music Live What. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: it is. I don't know. I will say this about
Speaker 1: NFL awards. I think yesterday kind of solidified a bunch
Speaker 1: of them. Roethlisberger for m v P. Right, Okay, stop it, sorry, um.
Speaker 1: I think Patrick Mahomes is your leader in the clubhouse,
Speaker 1: and everybody saw it on National Team again like he's
Speaker 1: he again. I'll say it to again, my buddy, he's
Speaker 1: the cheat code. He's so good, he's so much better
Speaker 1: than everybody out there. It was never really a doubt
Speaker 1: that he was going to come back yesterday, but apparently
Speaker 1: it was his first time throwing a game winning touchdown
Speaker 1: with less than two minutes left in a game seconds
Speaker 1: all took him. And then of course Justin Herbert is
Speaker 1: now your runaway offensive rookie of the year with the
Speaker 1: Borough injury. And then Tomlin, as long as they don't
Speaker 1: lose a game, he's got to be the coach of
Speaker 1: the year, and with apology is to someone like Brian Flores,
Speaker 1: like Tomlin's got to be that. I think yesterday Tomlin
Speaker 1: secured it. They could even probably lose a game or
Speaker 1: two and he'll still proball. I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: secured it right. If they lose a game or two,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a different story. But he's certainly again the
Speaker 1: leader in the clubhouse. I would think, Chrissy, you you
Speaker 1: agree with any of that or disagree with any of that. No,
Speaker 1: I agree with it, you know. And it's funny. I
Speaker 1: was having a conversation with some of my friends about Tomlin.
Speaker 1: You know, though I'm not sure he'd be a great
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator or a great defensive coordinator, but he's the
Speaker 1: kind of guy. He brings out the best in everybody,
Speaker 1: including his coaches. And you know, we're saying to just
Speaker 1: look at Leibyan Bell, look at Antonio Brown, look at
Speaker 1: all this stuff. He's done. I mean, he knows how
Speaker 1: to get these guys all on the same page and
Speaker 1: like I said, doing their very very best. And as
Speaker 1: you know, a coach or you know, a manager, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever kind of position of leadership that you're in, that's
Speaker 1: really the main thing. And like I said, would he
Speaker 1: be a great coordinator and I kind of think he
Speaker 1: wouldn't be, you know, but in the position where he's at,
Speaker 1: he knows how to get the best out of these
Speaker 1: guys and uh, you know, for a long time, you
Speaker 1: know his well, I wouldn't say for a long time,
Speaker 1: but is the public regard and him as a coach
Speaker 1: who has been kind of up and down because he
Speaker 1: definitely needs to work on some qualk management at times. Uh,
Speaker 1: but this guy's the hell of a coach and I
Speaker 1: think I think, I don't know one to say he's
Speaker 1: secured it or just lam dunk, but yeah, he's the
Speaker 1: leader right now for Coach of the Year. I think
Speaker 1: there's very little doubts you don't lose. That's probably a
Speaker 1: pretty logical thing to see. All right, let's do one
Speaker 1: more here. Oh up next, we got the Browns at
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Browns at the Jaguars. That's not that pretty
Speaker 1: big game. Seven and three Browns though one of nine Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield yesterday again uh, just a very ho hum,
Speaker 1: not impressive line twelve of twenty two for two oh
Speaker 1: four note downs note picks, sack three times Nick Chubb,
Speaker 1: Uh twenty four. I think I lost a digit there,
Speaker 1: So over a hundred yards for Nick Chubb. Kareem Hunt
Speaker 1: thirteen carries for eleven yards in a touchdown. By the way,
Speaker 1: Chub was twenty one fourteen. Just to be exact, Hunt
Speaker 1: was thirteen for eleven and a touchdown. But the Browns
Speaker 1: were plus two in turnovers. Uh in there when yesterday
Speaker 1: Brown's beat the Eagles twenty two to seventeen in clement weather.
Speaker 1: Once again in Cleveland, plus two in turnovers. Olivier Vernon
Speaker 1: made up for Miles Garrett's absence due to COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: by getting three sacks and a safety. Cleveland Also first
Speaker 1: score of the game was a fifty yard pick six
Speaker 1: in the first half by second year linebacker uh Sioni
Speaker 1: Taki Taki Denzel Ward on the hit of Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz didn't feel it coming. Denzel Ward hit him
Speaker 1: and he threw up a duck and it was seven
Speaker 1: and nothing Browns and then Jacksonville's we mentioned loses to
Speaker 1: the Steelers. Jake Luton sixteen for thirty seven for one
Speaker 1: fifty one, no touchdowns, four picks and two sacks. Terrell
Speaker 1: Edmunds and Minka Fitzpatrick responsible for two interceptions each only
Speaker 1: two six total yards for the Jags. They were minus
Speaker 1: three in turnovers against the Steelers. As we mentioned, Jaguars
Speaker 1: now forty one and one hundred in Shad Khan's nine
Speaker 1: year tenure. For those who keep track of such things. Um,
Speaker 1: by the way, here's that. Can we throw that tweet
Speaker 1: up about people who bet the Eagles yesterday? This is
Speaker 1: this is the most appropriate tweet of the day. This
Speaker 1: is from Al d do make a ninety nine. I
Speaker 1: will never bet the Eagles again. I will never bet
Speaker 1: the Eagles again. I will never bet the Eagles again.
Speaker 1: I will never bet the Eagles again. I didn't bet
Speaker 1: the Eagles. But that's how everybody should feel. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: on paper it's just like you gotta bet the Eagles here. No, no,
Speaker 1: you don't, because within one drive you're like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe I've bet on this team. Uh so Cleveland goes
Speaker 1: to seven and three. I mean the Browns are seven
Speaker 1: and three, Chris, I would imagine. Yeah, I don't buy it.
Speaker 1: I don't buy it. I think they're going to be
Speaker 1: a serious fate here at some point. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's against the Jaguars though, so also I put
Speaker 1: it in no man's land. I said, Cleveland minus five
Speaker 1: and a half at Jacksonville. H your way light, it's
Speaker 1: uh six and a half. I see some sevens with
Speaker 1: juice on the dog. I'm gonna open at seven. Not
Speaker 1: not for any great reason for the Jaguars, but already
Speaker 1: wanted a hundred member for years. We talked about how
Speaker 1: they took away your wise guy car. If you didn't
Speaker 1: bet on the Jaguars over week, well, it's, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: here they are again. It's just a poorly run franchise.
Speaker 1: Now Cleveland. You know, it's one of those things I
Speaker 1: mentioned on this show before. Every one of these young
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are coming to the league. I'm rooting for every
Speaker 1: one of them. I'm not every week, obviously, because I
Speaker 1: need the other side half the time, but I want
Speaker 1: to lead to prosper and i'd like to see Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield just be a little bit better. But that being said,
Speaker 1: I do think they have a good roster and a
Speaker 1: really good coach and that means a lot, and I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna do wonders for Mayfield hopefully eventually, hopefully,
Speaker 1: But you know, a couple of his bad games weren't
Speaker 1: some really bad weather like yesterday and I think the
Speaker 1: week before. So I'm still holding not hope for me. So,
Speaker 1: by the way, my power rating has come to aide
Speaker 1: on this game, and I don't think I have the
Speaker 1: Browns that high rated. Just the Jaguars return. It's what
Speaker 1: we thought they would be at the beginning of the season,
Speaker 1: which is the worst team in the NFL. Now that
Speaker 1: I have the Jets to thank for them not being
Speaker 1: regarded as such. But you know, Lewton doesn't look like
Speaker 1: the answer, and I'm about sure what the answer is
Speaker 1: with this team. But boy, you know, I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people are saying Trevor Lawrence sure doesn't want
Speaker 1: to get drafted by the Jets. Well, I don't think
Speaker 1: getting drafted by Jacksonville would do it. I'm any good either,
Speaker 1: So you know, I just think it's a bad, bad team,
Speaker 1: bad franchise bad everything. I'm gonna open seven and I
Speaker 1: see where they go from there, because I want no
Speaker 1: part of the Jetwell, if you give it the full seven,
Speaker 1: I might, I might like Jacksonville here. Although with the Browns,
Speaker 1: you don't really know if it's the weather that was
Speaker 1: sort of muting their performances the last few weeks, or
Speaker 1: if or if the weather helped. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: By the way, Uh Shad con forty one and a
Speaker 1: hundred as an owner that ties former Saints owner John
Speaker 1: Meekom Jr. Is the second fastest to reach a hundred
Speaker 1: losses in an owner's tenure ship, the worst of all time,
Speaker 1: and he guesses Chris Trivia owner Trivia worst of all times,
Speaker 1: quickest to a hundred loss There you go, Hugh, Hugh
Speaker 1: cover House. That's exactly right, all right, Let's squeeze in
Speaker 1: one more here before the top of the air. One more. Uh.
Speaker 1: Panthers at the Vikings. Panthers at the Vikings. Um. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say this out loud, but it's p J.
Speaker 1: Walker better than Teddy Bridgewater. P J Walker thirty four. Oh,
Speaker 1: he says no quickly. P J Walker twenty four of
Speaker 1: thirty four for two fifty eight yesterday, one touchdown, two picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked once. The guy who led the XFL
Speaker 1: the last iteration of the XFL. In passing yards and touchdowns.
Speaker 1: P J Walker at a temple. Both of his picks, though,
Speaker 1: were in the red zone. That was not good made
Speaker 1: the UH was made starter less than two hours before
Speaker 1: kickoff when Teddy Bear was officially ruled out with the
Speaker 1: knee injury. Panthers played without five starters, including Bridgewater, also
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, left tackle, Russell Okung, right guard John Miller,
Speaker 1: and cornerback Dante Jackson. D J. Moore was p J
Speaker 1: Walker's number one target seven for seven. Carolina's defense earned
Speaker 1: its first shutout since when they beat the Lions once
Speaker 1: again twenty to nothing yesterday to snap a five game
Speaker 1: losing streak at Minnesota. You said, uh, Minnesota cousins in
Speaker 1: their loss to the Cowboys twenty thirty three fourteen, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks, sack twice, Dalvin twenty seven for one fifteen
Speaker 1: and a touchdown, Feeling eight for one three and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Jefferson three for eighty six and a touchdown. How did
Speaker 1: they lose? With all those numbers, that catch by Sidney
Speaker 1: Lamb was one of the best. Beautiful Cowboys beat the
Speaker 1: Vikings again, which knocked out a whole bunch of survivors. Man,
Speaker 1: that was my I was, uh, Minnesota minus three and
Speaker 1: a hook. I guess him a hook minus three and
Speaker 1: a half Minnesota. Who's who do you have Pennsylvana his quarterback?
Speaker 1: I had Teddy Bridgewater penciled in his quarterback. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I think if Teddy plays, I got it three because
Speaker 1: I think McCaffrey has got a good shot of coming
Speaker 1: back to So with McCaffrey and Teddy, I got the
Speaker 1: Viking Street without Teddy, so not letting McCaffrey andslunced me
Speaker 1: without McCaffrey, I mean, without Teddy, I got the Vikings six.
Speaker 1: So that's why I was very quick to jump in. No,
Speaker 1: PJ hard whatever, always meaning it's not better than Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: He's just not Just look at all the numbers. I
Speaker 1: mean he was gifted great field position, zero pressure, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah the whole game. So no, I'm not that
Speaker 1: impressed with him. I am impressed with their coach. I
Speaker 1: think their coach is not a hell of a job.
Speaker 1: And you know, I've been a big teddy guy all
Speaker 1: the way. I see this number a little bit of four,
Speaker 1: but mostly four and a half. I see it off
Speaker 1: the board in a lot of places. I'm not putting
Speaker 1: this up because I think there's a big difference between
Speaker 1: Bridgewater and what's his name? P J Harvey? Is p
Speaker 1: J Walker? Yes, yes, p J Harvey. Harvey is somebody
Speaker 1: I think it's fair or something. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I'm I'm better than Jimmy. I can tell you that
Speaker 1: with the name p J. Harvey apparently is a singer, Yes, singer, songwriter,
Speaker 1: apparently nineties singers. She had like one or two songs
Speaker 1: in the earlier What did you say you think it
Speaker 1: would be with with with Bridgewater? What did you think
Speaker 1: you would put it that? Or with with p J?
Speaker 1: How about three? No with p J? How much six
Speaker 1: with six with Pjix with you? So I have a
Speaker 1: three point different we'll come in in the two. Well
Speaker 1: we gotta go to break. Well, we'll finish the thought.
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Speaker 1: denis the menace thing? I gotta going up hereously, this
Speaker 1: one's right in here up there, all right, let's get
Speaker 1: that little housekeeping it is, get Alexander. Jason conn is
Speaker 1: here as well. Jason, you mentioned here on the break
Speaker 1: a little scheduling quirk that the only that that you
Speaker 1: said Caroline is playing. It's what game here? Game? They
Speaker 1: have not had a buy, they've they've read played, and
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay plays their eleventh tonight, So those are the
Speaker 1: only two teams that have a by left than In
Speaker 1: other words, it's interesting Rams at Tampa Bay to night.
Speaker 1: By the way, Tampa Bay anywhere between a four and
Speaker 1: a four and a half point favorite tonight, depending on
Speaker 1: what shop you're at. Should be a good game tonight,
Speaker 1: at least on paper. Again, the quirky stat about the
Speaker 1: Rams tonight, eight of their nine second haves this season,
Speaker 1: the Rams defense has given up a maximum of three points.
Speaker 1: I really like to under in this game tonight. It's
Speaker 1: an incredible stat. Yeah, it's it's this new coordinate they
Speaker 1: brought in a new coordinator this year. Um, he's doing
Speaker 1: really good work. Well. The Rams known for defense right
Speaker 1: like this this year? Yeah, Sean McVeigh. Obviously it was
Speaker 1: this was remember when they that game against Kansas City
Speaker 1: where they scored every like it was like fifties. Something's
Speaker 1: gonna is gonna change, gonna change football, And now they're
Speaker 1: known for their defense. Bucks four four and a half
Speaker 1: point favorites again tonight hosting the Rams for Monday Night Football. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, Chrissie. Chris Andrews is here, of course, ladies,
Speaker 1: gentlemen who are just tuning in right now, the director
Speaker 1: of the sports book here the South Point Hotel Casino. Mysh,
Speaker 1: you were saying you want to say one more thing
Speaker 1: about Carolina. I'm just saying I'm not gonna put the
Speaker 1: game up on the board until i find out who's
Speaker 1: playing quarterback. Yeah, well that makes sense. So a lot
Speaker 1: of guys have it off, a lot of guys have
Speaker 1: it up. It's four and a half, a little bit
Speaker 1: of or people have it up. But I'm just gonna wait.
Speaker 1: I think there's too much of a distance. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: halfway through the slate, full slate of games in week twelve,
Speaker 1: I got a lot to say about one game coming up,
Speaker 1: so I think we're gonna hit it in this segment.
Speaker 1: But what's next the Titans. That's that's the one. It's like.
Speaker 1: The weird thing is I'll get to the Colts there
Speaker 1: because the Colts is where it's funny with the Colts.
Speaker 1: Last week, I did the whole autopsy on the third
Speaker 1: and ones and fourth and ones where there were eight
Speaker 1: different short yarded situations on third and fourth down for
Speaker 1: the Colts on Thursday night and Philip Rivers wouldn't do
Speaker 1: any of them. On the eighth they came in with
Speaker 1: the pinch, sneak and Jacoby Brisset. Today, I got another
Speaker 1: thing for them. But Titans. First of all, as we
Speaker 1: talked about, beat the Ravens in overtime thirty to twenty four,
Speaker 1: sixth win this season by seven points are fewer for Tennessee.
Speaker 1: So there's seven and three. Six of the seven by
Speaker 1: seven points are fewer. Ryan Tannehill twenty thirty one for
Speaker 1: two fifty nine, two touchdowns, one pick, sack twice. Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry twenty eight for one thirty three in a touchdown
Speaker 1: again heading into the fourth quarter. Yesterday, Henry only had
Speaker 1: forty four yards on eighteen carries the Titans trail thirteen.
Speaker 1: He finished with one thirty three on twenty eight carries,
Speaker 1: his six yard game of the season. Um also put
Speaker 1: him over a thousand yards for the third consecutive year.
Speaker 1: By the way, rambled for a hundred ninety five yards,
Speaker 1: as you may recall, to carry the Titans to a
Speaker 1: twenty to twelve upset of the top seeded Ravens in
Speaker 1: the a f C Divisional playoff back in January. Corey
Speaker 1: Davis was Tannahill's best target. Yesterday the biggest target five
Speaker 1: for one thirteen. So Tennessee goes to seven and three
Speaker 1: tie to top the a f C South with their opponent,
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts, who beat the Green Bay Packers yesterday
Speaker 1: in overtime, the only other overtime game, thirty four to
Speaker 1: thirty one, in a game that the Packers led twenty
Speaker 1: eight to fourteen at the half. And for those of
Speaker 1: us who had the Packers, we were feeling oh so
Speaker 1: good about it. But Indianapolis erased the fourteen point halftime deficit,
Speaker 1: failed to seal the win because of five holding calls
Speaker 1: on its final drive and regulation. I want to get
Speaker 1: into that in a minute. But green Bay won the
Speaker 1: coin toss in overtime. UM after Rogers had the game
Speaker 1: tying field goal drive at the end of regulation, won
Speaker 1: the coin toss. But then Valdez Scantling, who had the
Speaker 1: big catch on that final regulation drive, he lost a
Speaker 1: fumble when he was hit by Julian Blackman on green
Speaker 1: Bay second play of overtime. DeForest Buckner recovers four plays later,
Speaker 1: Rodrigo blanket ship through the uprights thirty nine yard or
Speaker 1: seven ten remaining in ot winner winner chicken dinner for
Speaker 1: the Colts. Philip rivers for thirty six for two eight,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked once. Four total
Speaker 1: yards of offense for the Colts. They did have eight
Speaker 1: penalties for one sixty yards, but it was those two
Speaker 1: turnovers plus two uh four turnovers for the Packers too
Speaker 1: for the Occults in this game, but that plus two
Speaker 1: was huge, including the turnover on the ensuing kickoff after
Speaker 1: the Colts had come all the way back to tie
Speaker 1: the game at twenty eight. So that was the big deal. UM.
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Speaker 1: Skill Alexander. It's Chris Andrews guessing lines for week twelve
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's our it's our Monday ritual where
Speaker 1: we try to extract value from our first look at
Speaker 1: the upcoming weekends lines. But that last sequence, let me
Speaker 1: just say so. The Colts thing when they beat the
Speaker 1: Titans two games ago, they just Philip Rivers finally came out,
Speaker 1: came out of the I don't came out of the
Speaker 1: sneak closet where it was clearly apparent that okay, it's
Speaker 1: got to be in his contract or something. He doesn't sneak.
Speaker 1: It's what I've been saying on this show for years
Speaker 1: and on the podcast for years. He doesn't sneak. And
Speaker 1: that's going it's going to matter in a key, high
Speaker 1: leverage moment in some postseason game. Well last night or yesterday. Rather,
Speaker 1: the Colts could have put this game away in regulation.
Speaker 1: And it was the weirdest sequence again. Five holding penalties
Speaker 1: down the stretch. I have them all listed in script,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't really have to go through them.
Speaker 1: But from the to seventeen mark to seventeen left in
Speaker 1: the game, and the Packers had had three time outs
Speaker 1: at their disposal at this place, at this point in
Speaker 1: the game, and all all Indianapolis had to do was
Speaker 1: just sort of, you know, make them use their time outs,
Speaker 1: kick a field goal. Game was over, but they kept holding,
Speaker 1: they kept there's an offensive. There were five offensive holdings
Speaker 1: and the Packers didn't have to use any of their
Speaker 1: time out. So finally they converted a fourth and four
Speaker 1: right under the two minute warning, the two minute warning,
Speaker 1: and then the Packers finally had to use the first
Speaker 1: time out, and they still kept holding and holding again,
Speaker 1: and so what ended up happening is that the they
Speaker 1: ended up with a like a second and thirty and
Speaker 1: a third and twenty six um Philip Rivers ends up
Speaker 1: throwing a a they end up punting. Remember there was
Speaker 1: an earlier play where Philip Rivers looked like he might
Speaker 1: have fumbled and it went the and it went the
Speaker 1: other way, but it was it was a correct call
Speaker 1: that was in completion. But they end up punting up
Speaker 1: three in the end, and green Bay had only used
Speaker 1: had only used two time outs, and so they gave
Speaker 1: the Packers life where they shouldn't have been in the
Speaker 1: any was just this weirdest sequence at the end of
Speaker 1: that game. And so you just wonder again the Colts,
Speaker 1: even in victory two weeks in a row. Now, even
Speaker 1: in victory, it could have been so much easier both times.
Speaker 1: Just wonder about this team. All I had to say,
Speaker 1: the Colts are probably a three point favorite here. I
Speaker 1: liked your number better. It's three and a half. Um boy,
Speaker 1: I don't know my numbers team to two and a half.
Speaker 1: Uh well, I don't know the three and alps that
Speaker 1: seems to I mean, he beat this team two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: And I know guys for many, many years, and I'm
Speaker 1: not sure this holds up anymore. But they would always
Speaker 1: bet against the team that won the first matchup in
Speaker 1: these divisional games, and like I said, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that holds up, and I don't have any numbers to
Speaker 1: prove one way or the other, but it seems to
Speaker 1: me like you're saying, I think the Colts manage either
Speaker 1: to win games with much more difficulty than they should have,
Speaker 1: and the Titans managed to win a lot of these
Speaker 1: close games, and I like the Titans in this spot.
Speaker 1: Plus the three and a half, I think that's way
Speaker 1: too high. Like I said, my numbers come to two
Speaker 1: and a half, and there's always making my numbers. Last night,
Speaker 1: I just can't get the three. But this game, I
Speaker 1: just couldn't do it, you know. And here they are.
Speaker 1: They opened three and a half. I'm gonna put a
Speaker 1: market next to Tennessee for me. Yeah, if you're giving
Speaker 1: me the hook, I'm taking the Titans. I think that's
Speaker 1: the second one. I like a lot um. And again,
Speaker 1: the Colts fans and Cults backers are gonna say, hey, Gil,
Speaker 1: they won both games, so stop talking about the Colts.
Speaker 1: But but they did. But like really, literally from the
Speaker 1: two seventeen mark to the one mark in regulation, I
Speaker 1: mean it's offensive holding enforced, offensive holding declined, illegal motion declined.
Speaker 1: Hold on, there's more, uh, hold on offensive holding. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see another one. Offensive holding declined, on and on
Speaker 1: and on. It's just like the Green Bay was like,
Speaker 1: we don't have to use any of these time outs
Speaker 1: because the clock keeps stopping. It was incredible to watch it.
Speaker 1: I got so many tweets after the game, like what
Speaker 1: did I just see. I was like, I don't know, dude,
Speaker 1: I don't know. But Indianapolis somehow manages the winning good
Speaker 1: for them. By the way, green Bay in the second
Speaker 1: half of that game, and we'll get to them momentarily.
Speaker 1: But green Bay in the second half of that game,
Speaker 1: three points to turner to parton me, three points, two
Speaker 1: turnovers on six drives in the second half and overtime,
Speaker 1: So utter domination by that cold to d despite the
Speaker 1: ship at against from the offense. All right, I think
Speaker 1: I like Tennessee. If you're giving me the hook plus
Speaker 1: three and a half, I'll take Tennessee. What's next the
Speaker 1: Chargers at the Bills, Chargers survivor got it done for me? Uh?
Speaker 1: They beat the Jets. Beat the Jet by the way,
Speaker 1: they only beat him thirty four to twenty eight. It
Speaker 1: should be pointed out the Chargers punned tie long, so
Speaker 1: there's there's seconds left in the game and it's thirty
Speaker 1: four to twenty six. By the way, the Chargers had
Speaker 1: to already withstand a drive from the Jets at the
Speaker 1: end of this game. The Charges, the Charges were crushing
Speaker 1: the Jets in this game, and somehow, so we're we
Speaker 1: started I started losing attention and going to every other game,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, we got I got the survivor pick.
Speaker 1: And then every now and again I would glance over,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, um, Anthony Lynn can't blow this jetty.
Speaker 1: And so then the Jets, the Jets had to get
Speaker 1: a potential game tying drive. If they had gotten a
Speaker 1: touchdown into two, the Chargers ware will stop him. But
Speaker 1: then with seconds left in the game, I think there
Speaker 1: was seven seconds left or eight seconds left, the Charges
Speaker 1: were thirty four to twenty six. They had a fourth down,
Speaker 1: and so the Tai Long there and there punter was instructed,
Speaker 1: all right, you know, just run back, take a safety,
Speaker 1: will be good. But apparently no one told Tai Long
Speaker 1: take all the time, and he left a second on
Speaker 1: the clock, like you could have run around a little
Speaker 1: and taking this. There was a second. So the Chargers
Speaker 1: had to actually withstand a final punt return up six
Speaker 1: to the Jets. And by the way, the Jets, in
Speaker 1: all their ineptitude, didn't even get one lateral out of it.
Speaker 1: It was ridiculous. But the Charges went and justin Herbert
Speaker 1: your your your offensive rookie of the year for sure.
Speaker 1: Thirty seven forty nine three sixty six, three touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 1: three times sacked, begging the question, what was Oregon doing
Speaker 1: with this guy? He's the best young quarterback, I think,
Speaker 1: most most impactful of all the young quarterbacks. I think
Speaker 1: he's he's a star. But like, how do you manage
Speaker 1: to just be like kind of a met team? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I get it, they were, like, I get it, they
Speaker 1: were close to the top of the pack twelve. But
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, a bad offensive system. People
Speaker 1: were saying that he would probably come out of his
Speaker 1: shell a little bit when he came to the marrow.
Speaker 1: Mario Christobal The answer to that question. Keenan Allen sixteen catches,
Speaker 1: franchise record for one forty five and a touchdown. He
Speaker 1: was targeted nineteen times. First receiver in NFL history to
Speaker 1: have six games of thirteen catches or more or Keenan Allen.
Speaker 1: The charges were nine of fifteen on third down in
Speaker 1: their thirty twenty eight went over the Jets twenty nine
Speaker 1: rushing yards though that's it didn't need them thirty six
Speaker 1: twenty eight time possession advantage over the Jets twenty thirty two.
Speaker 1: They're at Buffalo, Buffalo. How to buy Buffalo seven and three,
Speaker 1: one game lead now in the a f C East
Speaker 1: over Miami. I'll say, Buffalo, no man's land, five and
Speaker 1: a half over the Chargers. All right, you're dead on.
Speaker 1: It's five and a half. My powering is from the five,
Speaker 1: so I have no beef at the five and a
Speaker 1: half at all. Uh. Yeah, I think this is I
Speaker 1: think that's a good number for a Buffalo team that
Speaker 1: the wind doesn't always cover. But you know, probably a
Speaker 1: little better offensively than we thought they would be, uh
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season. And Chargers they keep
Speaker 1: everything close and then they do usually blow it in
Speaker 1: the end, you know, And they did all they could
Speaker 1: to blow last night's game. Dude, I can tell you
Speaker 1: that because I needed the Chargers myself. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think five and as good number. And that's what
Speaker 1: I'm known. Did you did you lose any of your
Speaker 1: four survivors, Chris? I thought we wanted to talk about that.
Speaker 1: That's right now, forget we're we're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 1: I forgot apologies. I got the Chargers, that's for sure,
Speaker 1: and so survivor. I'm excited by that. Um. But yes,
Speaker 1: they got harrowing at the end of that, the Chargers
Speaker 1: look good on a tease I like, as Aaron teas here,
Speaker 1: by the way, the reason it's five and the reason
Speaker 1: I gets five and a half because it was four
Speaker 1: and a half, everybody would bet the Bills, and if
Speaker 1: it was six, I think everybody would kind of say, well,
Speaker 1: the Charges crowded. You know. They always keep these games close,
Speaker 1: and they do. As Aaron shots, yes, Aaron Shots set
Speaker 1: from Football Outsiders a couple of weeks ago, they are
Speaker 1: the most consistent team through his prism of f D
Speaker 1: v O A. They are the most consistent team in
Speaker 1: the NFL from week to week. They always show up always.
Speaker 1: They never lay an egg. They managed to mess it up,
Speaker 1: as you say at the end of at the end
Speaker 1: of days, but they always show up, all right. What's next? Next? Up?
Speaker 1: The Dolphins at the Jets. Dolphins at the Jets. This
Speaker 1: was interesting yesterday because the Dolphins went into Denver. A
Speaker 1: lot of people loved the Dolphins yesterday and they were
Speaker 1: pretty much I mean, I don't want to use the
Speaker 1: word dominated, but they were never really a threat to
Speaker 1: win this game, not really in the In the second
Speaker 1: part of this game, they lose to the Broncos twenty
Speaker 1: to thirteen. They lose his four point closing favorites. Their
Speaker 1: five game winning streak snapped. TWA was eleven for twenty
Speaker 1: for eighty three yards, one touchdown, no picks. He was
Speaker 1: sacked six times. Remember Matt Ryan was sacked eight times
Speaker 1: by the Saints, but too, it was sacked six times
Speaker 1: by the Broncos. And then Ryan Fitzpatrick came in in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. He was twelve of eighteen for one seventeen,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked zero times, and
Speaker 1: he really got the sense at that point, oh, maybe
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have a shot here with Fitzpatrick. But two,
Speaker 1: it was taken out in the fourth and a lot
Speaker 1: of people were asking was he taken out because of
Speaker 1: the six sacks and because on that last sack he
Speaker 1: was his leg was bent pretty badly, had to sort
Speaker 1: of limp off the field. Was he taken out because
Speaker 1: of injury or because Brian Flores made the coach's decision?
Speaker 1: And Flora said after the game had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the injury, that it was a coach's decision. Um
Speaker 1: at least that's what he so for him to go
Speaker 1: out and say that that's interesting, but his left leg
Speaker 1: was bent awkwardly on the final sack by Bradley chub
Speaker 1: two of that is two two total yards. That's it
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins, just fifty six rushing. Justin Simmons intercepted
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick pass in the end zone with eighty excuse me,
Speaker 1: it was sixty three seconds left. That sealed the deal
Speaker 1: for the Broncos thirteen and the Jets against the Chargers
Speaker 1: in that loss, that six point lost, Joe Flacco was
Speaker 1: fifteen of thirty for two oh five, two touchdowns, one pick.
Speaker 1: He was sacked once New York drove to the Chargers
Speaker 1: thirty two with under a minute remaining, as I was
Speaker 1: mentioning before turning over the ball on downs and the
Speaker 1: Jets now off to the worst starting franchise history, by
Speaker 1: the way, that was after the that before the safety
Speaker 1: ship anigans. The Jets off to the worst starting franchise history.
Speaker 1: Twenty one team since the merger to beginning season oh
Speaker 1: in ten. First team eliminated from postseason consideration. So those
Speaker 1: of you who had we're still holding out hope for
Speaker 1: your Jets to make the playoffs. Teakets, Sorry, it's over,
Speaker 1: I'll say Miami minus seven in a hook at new
Speaker 1: at the Jets. Yeah again, I like your number better.
Speaker 1: It's six and a half or seven, Um juice either way,
Speaker 1: six and a half juice on a favorite, seven juice
Speaker 1: on a dog. I'm opening seven flat. You know, my
Speaker 1: power ring has come to a lot higher, but once
Speaker 1: again diminishing returns on the favorite. Just couldn't make it
Speaker 1: as high as my power ratings come to. They've got
Speaker 1: the Jets really at the bottom of the barrel. They
Speaker 1: played hard yesterday. They looked, you know, as good as
Speaker 1: they could possibly look. I guess for this team, but
Speaker 1: you know the Dolphins that they got to laying an egg.
Speaker 1: I think they come back strong. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Floor is already announced that it will be to uh
Speaker 1: As just starting quarterback this week, so that there's no
Speaker 1: dissensionarian gap. I like the Dolphins. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I want to lay the seven on the road, but yeah, Gun,
Speaker 1: in my head, I would certainly pick the Dolphins. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised the reason I said seven and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if it was seven, I would have thought everybody would
Speaker 1: have bet the Dolphins at that point. Um. Yeah, Dolphins
Speaker 1: feel like a good teaser players Chargers, solid teasing likes.
Speaker 1: Technically not your old Stanford won't because I'm on the road,
Speaker 1: but either of them. Yeah, all right, let's do one more.
Speaker 1: Crizzy thinks at the Broncos. Say it's at the Broncos. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's time for It's time for young Gil to issue
Speaker 1: an apology. You ready for this, Taysom Hill, I apologize
Speaker 1: for everything I've ever said to you or about you.
Speaker 1: Um saying six and oh now without Drew Brees since
Speaker 1: the start of last season, six and oh Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: Yesterday eighteen of twenty three for two thirty three. Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: coach of the stop it eighteen of twenty three for
Speaker 1: two thirty three, no touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked
Speaker 1: three times, ten carries for fifty one yards, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: did have one fumble lost. It's his first NFL started
Speaker 1: a quarterback. That was his first start ever. He had
Speaker 1: forty six previous games before finally getting his first start
Speaker 1: under center. Entered having thrown This is interesting. I don't
Speaker 1: know if people really sort of got this. Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: entered the game having thrown just five passes with four
Speaker 1: completions for eighty six yards this season and lifetime was
Speaker 1: ten of eighteen for two oh five career Drew brees
Speaker 1: sideline at least three games beginning with yesterday's games with
Speaker 1: at least three games with with what they called multiple
Speaker 1: rib fractors, and then yesterday we found out it was
Speaker 1: eleven eleven. I think how many listen, little anatomical study
Speaker 1: will tell you. I believe we have twelve pairs of ribs.
Speaker 1: So that's a half a rap right there. Almost, My goodness,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of ribs. Jeez. Sean Payton gave Hill
Speaker 1: the nod over Jamis Winston. As we know, Michael Thomas, hey,
Speaker 1: welcome back. Nine for one oh four, had ten touches
Speaker 1: all year before yesterday, and the Saints had a hundred
Speaker 1: sixty eight rushing yards led by Hill. And then there's Denver,
Speaker 1: who we just talked about beating the Dolphins. Drew Lock
Speaker 1: eighteen of thirty for two seventy, no touchdowns, one picksact
Speaker 1: zero times, Melvin Gord two touchdowns, Patrick five for one nineteen,
Speaker 1: but a lot of that one nineteen was on that
Speaker 1: last just throw up in the air by Lock. But
Speaker 1: um a four hundred fifty nine to two hundred twenty
Speaker 1: two total yards advantage over the Dolphins. And that's the thing,
Speaker 1: going back to to it for a second, PRIs that's
Speaker 1: the thing with this little like to a mini era.
Speaker 1: So far, it's all been marked by defensive help like
Speaker 1: the Dolphins defense has helped out in every situation. And again,
Speaker 1: only eighty three yards passing for him yesterday. Um, back
Speaker 1: to this game, New Orleans at Denver. Uh, New Orleans
Speaker 1: minus six. I'll say gingerly, ye see five minutes a
Speaker 1: see five and a half to hands six. I've the
Speaker 1: sixth better. I gotta tell you, going into yesterday, I
Speaker 1: had lowered my power rating on the Saints three points,
Speaker 1: you know, because uh, you know, I mean we've seen
Speaker 1: Hill but not you know, starting quarterback role. But you know,
Speaker 1: really did think with with Sean Payton as the coach,
Speaker 1: Uh first one, you figure made the right decision watching
Speaker 1: these guys in practice all week. And yeah, he is
Speaker 1: a great coach. There's no doubt, especially offensively, no doubt
Speaker 1: about it. I don't have two points worse anymore. I
Speaker 1: got him only one point worse. Um, you know, Nassa,
Speaker 1: we have to see a little more out of Hill
Speaker 1: before we crowned the next Steve Young. Like I've heard
Speaker 1: some guys saying, but I like six better. My tire
Speaker 1: rains actually comes a little higher more like I hate
Speaker 1: to say like nine, but uh, you know, uh, Broncos
Speaker 1: looked good, particularly on defense yesterday, but I think six
Speaker 1: good number. Good places started. Yeah, And by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't really take back what I said about taste
Speaker 1: Sean Payton throwing Taysom Hill in as a changeup when
Speaker 1: Drew Brees was playing, because that was always annoying to
Speaker 1: me and I always felt it was overblown in terms
Speaker 1: of what it does the Saints drives. But what I
Speaker 1: was impressed by with Hill yesterday was eighteen for twenty three.
Speaker 1: That is what the question mark was, and he was
Speaker 1: very accurate yesterday. So eighteen of twenty three for Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill not a bad start to the non Drew Brees games.
Speaker 1: Here coming back, we got more guessing lines right here
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Speaker 1: guessing lines for week twelve in the NFL. It's kill Alexander.
Speaker 1: Chris Andrews is here as well. By the way, Chris prediction,
Speaker 1: do you think Cisilac will go from twenty five percent
Speaker 1: to twelve point five percent next next time when he
Speaker 1: does this, when he peers it back at six point five. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just wanted to point that out. Just
Speaker 1: watching TV. It's distracted. All right, Let's do two more
Speaker 1: games here before the primetime games at the Rain. By
Speaker 1: the way, do I have that right? If my math
Speaker 1: is correct, we have four games left, forty Niners at
Speaker 1: the Rams. You're uh there, but they're you know, the
Speaker 1: Rams haven't played and the forty Niners didn't play, So
Speaker 1: I don't have much to add to this other than again,
Speaker 1: the Rams are at the Bucks tonight. Bucks are four
Speaker 1: or four and a half point favorites, depending on where
Speaker 1: you're shopping. UM. And the Rams defense, as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: eight of nine second halves this season have given up
Speaker 1: a maximum of three points the defense, So that's impressive. UM.
Speaker 1: But I will say site unseen with the Rams tonight,
Speaker 1: they will be about six point favorites. I'm guessing against
Speaker 1: the Niners, just a guess, six, six and a half
Speaker 1: and seven. I like the higher number. My my ratings
Speaker 1: came to nine. I was talking about humans who you're
Speaker 1: just talking about. By the way, I'm so glad decent
Speaker 1: has and he's one of our best writers and they're
Speaker 1: very sharp. Beauty. Absolutely, Um he is, Yeah, he really is.
Speaker 1: But we were talking about this Rams defense and I
Speaker 1: am just really impressed with this defense there. This is
Speaker 1: a really good team and just such a lost season
Speaker 1: for the forty Niners. So, like I said, I see
Speaker 1: six and a half and seven, uh, mostly six and
Speaker 1: a half. But I'm gonna open seven. If they want
Speaker 1: to give me a bet, I will be glad they
Speaker 1: take that. Uh you know, I I don't see the
Speaker 1: Niners putting up too many points in insisting just so
Speaker 1: hard with the Niners, right, a mash unit four and
Speaker 1: six on the season, no fault of their own. You know,
Speaker 1: who knows what you get with them from week to week.
Speaker 1: They're just trying to piece it together and get through
Speaker 1: it all. Um. But we do know no Kittle, no Thomas,
Speaker 1: no bossas they have been for the latter two guys
Speaker 1: for the whole season pretty much. And it will be
Speaker 1: Nick Mullins again at quarterback. All right, what's what's so seven?
Speaker 1: You're putting up seven? I'm opening seven? Okay. Chiefs at
Speaker 1: the Bucks Bucks again who have not played, yet they
Speaker 1: played at night against the Rams Chiefs. As we mentioned yesterday,
Speaker 1: Chiefs now nine and one. So as long as they're
Speaker 1: winning games, the pressure is still on the Steelers to
Speaker 1: to win football games in the a f C. Remember,
Speaker 1: only one by. Only one team gets a bye in
Speaker 1: this expanded playoffs, that is unless the contingency plan ever
Speaker 1: goes into effect if COVID still reeks havoc between now
Speaker 1: and the end of the year. In that case, nobody
Speaker 1: would get a buy and we'd add another team uh
Speaker 1: per conference. But as is the case now, only one
Speaker 1: team gets a by. Chiefs beat the Raiders as we
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, thirty five to thirty one yesterday. They do
Speaker 1: not cover as eight point closing favorites. Patrick Mahomes thirty
Speaker 1: four forty two touchdowns, one pick. Only his second pick
Speaker 1: of the year wasn't sacked. Clyde Edwards Zilaire fourteen for
Speaker 1: sixty nine, two touchdowns, Kelsey eight for seven and a touchdown,
Speaker 1: Tyreek eleven for one oh two and a touchdown, thirty
Speaker 1: six first downs for the Chiefs ties of franchise record
Speaker 1: sixty total yards. They did have ten penalties for eighty nine.
Speaker 1: Andy Reid now you always. You said this last week,
Speaker 1: all the time, Jason uh Andy Reid after it buys
Speaker 1: a thing, I think he's eighteen and three our nineteen
Speaker 1: and three after a buy straight up, we're talking since nine.
Speaker 1: I would listen. I would imagine the Chiefs will be
Speaker 1: four point favorites at Tampa Bay. I think it's just
Speaker 1: it will be over three. That's my guess. I like
Speaker 1: your remember better you my power raise come to a four.
Speaker 1: It's only three. Three to me is a one way number.
Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't want to take Tampa plus the three.
Speaker 1: I keep going back mental lead to that New Orleans
Speaker 1: game against Tampa where they just thoroughly, thoroughly dominated this team.
Speaker 1: And I have I know everybody's ready to have the
Speaker 1: Bucks in the upper rational in the NFL UM I'm
Speaker 1: just not quite so sold on him. I kind of
Speaker 1: like the Ramps tonight. I know it's getting up there,
Speaker 1: but like I said, I love their defense. I think
Speaker 1: the Bucks might be vulnerable to that. But my my
Speaker 1: reigns from the flour. I still think listen to the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I think they ran into a bit of a buzz
Speaker 1: saw last night. I think the Raiders are very underrated
Speaker 1: and a good, good team, and they had trouble winning.
Speaker 1: They did pour it out right. Three is a little light.
Speaker 1: Like I said to me, three is a one way number.
Speaker 1: I'll open three because I don't like to mess around
Speaker 1: too much of that because we do everything at eleven
Speaker 1: and ten and I can get myself in trouble if
Speaker 1: I go to three and a half. So I'll open three.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll take the game down kickoff tonight. But
Speaker 1: at this point in time, I like to higher number.
Speaker 1: I like it higher than three. But I don't see
Speaker 1: anything hiring that at all. Right, a lot even jews round.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Do you get the
Speaker 1: sense from the Raiders last night? I think you're right underrated?
Speaker 1: But do they match up particularly well with the Chiefs?
Speaker 1: Is there's something about the Raiders that they just played
Speaker 1: the Chiefs well? And then you know, because I was
Speaker 1: again not to make everything about survive Her, but was
Speaker 1: going through all the games that I've gotten by and
Speaker 1: Survivor this year, and like one of the by far
Speaker 1: easiest was the Patriots beating the Raiders. Like of all things,
Speaker 1: you look back, You're like, how was that that easy?
Speaker 1: So it's just and they didn't have right, they didn't
Speaker 1: practice on defense. Maybe that was a good thing, who
Speaker 1: knows going into the yesterday's game. But do you think
Speaker 1: it's a matchup thing with the Raiders? Do you think
Speaker 1: they're just good period? Well? I think the matchup certainly
Speaker 1: helps because listen, they beat them once and then they
Speaker 1: covered yesterday and easily could have won. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say easy. It's never easy when you're facing Mahomes,
Speaker 1: but they could have won that game certainly. Um so
Speaker 1: you have a point there. But I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: I really think with the Raiders. It took Derek Carr
Speaker 1: a while, and we all get to see that too
Speaker 1: much in the NFL anymore. You see it like when
Speaker 1: I was young to is seventies. I mean, go back
Speaker 1: and look at Terry Bradshaw's first two years. I mean
Speaker 1: it's parents like to Ryan Leaf there if they're almost identical.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we would have a chance to
Speaker 1: see that out of the quarterback again. Uh well, we
Speaker 1: probably would at certain times, you know, of course, But
Speaker 1: Derrick Carr is just one of those guys. He's gotten
Speaker 1: better and better and better, and you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure reason the m d P race. You know, Uh,
Speaker 1: sorry Jesus, but I think that, uh, he's definitely been here.
Speaker 1: He's playing at a really high level, and he's playing
Speaker 1: at a high level. He's he's coming into his own
Speaker 1: He's a very legitimate got a quarterback in the league.
Speaker 1: And I think that's would make the Raiders say, good,
Speaker 1: gotta step in and take a break. And like I said,
Speaker 1: a couple of drops as well. It could have been better.
Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll finish it up guessing lines Week
Speaker 1: twelve right here on the numbers game a visa the
Speaker 1: sports betting nowhere. All right, let's go to the prime
Speaker 1: time games. I think that's all we have left Sunday night. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Bears at the Packers. I should say, not if your
Speaker 1: rules are stupid, but if you they're vague and you
Speaker 1: misapply them. That's what I meant to say. What was
Speaker 1: it again? I'm sorry? What was that, Chrissie. I was
Speaker 1: just had a thought. Bears Bears at Packers. All right,
Speaker 1: Bears didn't play, So the Bears are five and five. Packers,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, lose that game to the Colts, and
Speaker 1: we went through the whole holding call stuff. I could
Speaker 1: do it play by play. I wrote them all down,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to bore you. But just holding
Speaker 1: fest for the Colts at the end of regulation kept
Speaker 1: the Packers in it. Colts still prevailed in overtime green
Speaker 1: Bay three points, two turnovers on six drives and second
Speaker 1: half in overtime. Yesterday, Geese Aaron Rodgers was seven thirty
Speaker 1: eight for three eleven, three touchdowns, one pick. He was
Speaker 1: sacked once. DeVante seven for one oh six in a touchdown.
Speaker 1: The Packers only ran eighteen plays over the final thirty
Speaker 1: three minutes. That's it. They had four turnovers, yeah, four turnovers.
Speaker 1: Before that in their first nine games, they had an
Speaker 1: NFC low five turnovers total. Had four turnovers in this
Speaker 1: one game and they were minus two in turnovers here,
Speaker 1: four for them, two for the Colts. Usually that's all
Speaker 1: you need to know. And again two of those huge
Speaker 1: for the Packers. One that fumble on the kickoff after
Speaker 1: the Colts had tied the game, after they had erased
Speaker 1: the fourteen point deficit, fumble on the ensuing kickoff, It
Speaker 1: allowed the Colts to go up in the game thereafter,
Speaker 1: and then, of course in overtime, the big turnover on
Speaker 1: the second play that the Packers ran Valdez Scantling, who
Speaker 1: had that great uh that great play in the final
Speaker 1: drive of regulation when they were backed up and Rodgers
Speaker 1: just heaved it and he came down with it right
Speaker 1: around midfield. But I'll say the Packers, this is uh
Speaker 1: Chicago at green Bay. A lot of people are gonna
Speaker 1: like green Bay and survivor if they're lucky enough to
Speaker 1: get past Thanksgiving, they're gonna like the Packers. Here, I'll
Speaker 1: say green Bay minus seven. Yeah, it's uh seven and
Speaker 1: a half and they you know, we still had questions
Speaker 1: about the Chicago quarterback. I think, you know Folds or
Speaker 1: for this key um not if there's any difference between
Speaker 1: the two of them, points Greg Way to me, there
Speaker 1: is not. But I'm not sure even one of them
Speaker 1: is healthy. And uh, who else they have they got
Speaker 1: I can't remember it. The other guy they have some
Speaker 1: guy had heard of but hasn't played a whole lot.
Speaker 1: So I like, I like the seven half and and
Speaker 1: I see seven half and eight. You know, just debating
Speaker 1: was this a good spot for green Bay coming off
Speaker 1: a loss where they should have won. You know, the
Speaker 1: four turnovers probably an aberration. Um, you know, the Bears
Speaker 1: defense has been, you know, pretty darn good, but they
Speaker 1: still give up in the mid twenties almost every week.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, I think Rogers could probably help
Speaker 1: do that, and I'm not sure the Bears are gonna
Speaker 1: be able to put too much on the board themselves.
Speaker 1: So I think I'm gonna open eight because I think
Speaker 1: the public will be on it. Like I said, even
Speaker 1: though my powerat has come a little lower, just worried
Speaker 1: about the quarterback situation for for Chicago and see how
Speaker 1: the things work out this weekend. I think it might
Speaker 1: be a good spot for the Packers. Fall is not
Speaker 1: seriously injured when it was hearded off the field the
Speaker 1: other night. In the end, no serious injury. Uh okay.
Speaker 1: Monday Night, Hawks at the Eagles. Seahawks at the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Seahawks coming off of bye, excuse me not to buy
Speaker 1: extra rest. They beat the Cardinals on Thursday night, pardon me,
Speaker 1: by a touchdown, and then there's the Eagles, which you'll
Speaker 1: get to here momentarily. Russell Wilson in that game against
Speaker 1: the Cardinals twenty three one, two touchdowns, no picks. He
Speaker 1: was sacked three times. Remember he had committed ten turnovers.
Speaker 1: In the previous four games combined, Seahawks had a hundred
Speaker 1: sixty five yards rushing in that game against the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: By the way, their four upcoming games are against teams
Speaker 1: with a combined eighty eight and one record. So the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: who after tonight could either be in the lead or
Speaker 1: tied for the lead in the NFC West, next four
Speaker 1: games playing teams with a combined eighty eight and one record,
Speaker 1: setting up nicely for the Sea Talks. And then there's
Speaker 1: the Eagles, who we talked about earlier in their game
Speaker 1: against the Browns. The Eagles are the proverbial team that
Speaker 1: as they run up, as in the run up to
Speaker 1: the game that they play, you're like, oh, I'm playing
Speaker 1: the Eagles here, I've got to play the Eagles. This
Speaker 1: clearly points of the Eagles, and then a drive into
Speaker 1: the game, you're like, why did I bet on this team?
Speaker 1: Not that I bet on him? Uh. Carson wentz twenty
Speaker 1: one for thirty five to thirty five, two touchdowns, two picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked five times. He has now been sacked
Speaker 1: a league leading forty times. Forty The Eagles were two
Speaker 1: for twelve on third down. They were two for two
Speaker 1: on four, but they were minus two in turnovers. And
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, that first touchdown for the Browns, the
Speaker 1: first points in the game was that pick six where
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward smacked Carson Wentz didn't feel him coming, ball
Speaker 1: went up in the air, Taki Taki to the house.
Speaker 1: Starting center Jason Kelsey hurt his elbow in the first
Speaker 1: f His loss forced the Eagles to turn to undrafted
Speaker 1: rookie look Luke Juriga, twelve lineman used this season for
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Kelsey played the second half in a large
Speaker 1: brace and then Lane Johnson this just in hurt his
Speaker 1: shoulder in the second half. Lane Johnson always in and
Speaker 1: out of the lineup. So Seattle's got to be a
Speaker 1: favorite here. And I'll say by four more than a
Speaker 1: field goal at Philly. Uh my numbers came to seven,
Speaker 1: but your numbers a little closer. It's five, um seven.
Speaker 1: After the last night it was five and a half.
Speaker 1: You know, last night there's mostly five and a halfs
Speaker 1: and they're gone to somebody somebody actually, you know, there
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a move on the Eagle.
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. You know, I put this out
Speaker 1: last week and I think I even said it on
Speaker 1: your show, Uh, Paul heim Bikinis, who who was one
Speaker 1: of my countrymen and UH producer at ESPN. We posted
Speaker 1: this and we followed each other on Twitter, but he
Speaker 1: posted how many games quarterbacks were under fifty in their
Speaker 1: qb R. Of course, fifties just an even, you know,
Speaker 1: an average number. And going into last week, I forget
Speaker 1: what WinCE was. Last week he had the most of
Speaker 1: the league was six. Now yesterday's qb R was twenty
Speaker 1: point two. I mean, just horrible. We have got the
Speaker 1: quick making excuses for Carson Wentz, and we're always making
Speaker 1: excuses for this guy, and that you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago and he was probably going to be
Speaker 1: the m v P if he didn't get hurt. And
Speaker 1: I understand that, but maybe that injury took a lot
Speaker 1: out of him, or maybe just guys figure them out
Speaker 1: or you know whatever, But we can't keep making excuses
Speaker 1: for him. You know, I'm gonna open five just because
Speaker 1: I even see some four and as showing up. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know what, I know, the way this works, the
Speaker 1: wise guys will come in and take the five, you know,
Speaker 1: on a home dog. But by by Monday night, I'd
Speaker 1: like to promise you I need Philadelphia, you know, that's
Speaker 1: just the way it's gonna go. But the first wave
Speaker 1: will come in on Philling. But I'm gonna be very
Speaker 1: nimble in as soon as I see the starting to
Speaker 1: move up like which it probably will on like Thursday,
Speaker 1: Friday or Saturday something like that, I'm gonna be moving
Speaker 1: this up because I like the Seahawks at seven uh
Speaker 1: and I'm not even that high on the Seahawks. Their
Speaker 1: their defense, excuse me, their defense is not playing well.
Speaker 1: And even they you know, I'm glad they want against
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and we needed them and all that, but
Speaker 1: they didn't look that great to me. But the Eagles
Speaker 1: are just they're heading south and you look at their
Speaker 1: next three games, they'll will They'll be significant dogs in
Speaker 1: the next three games. So if you have a ticking
Speaker 1: on them to win the division, I know you're in
Speaker 1: first place now by half the game. It ain't gonna last.
Speaker 1: Trust me. Eagles half game lead once again over the
Speaker 1: rest of the NFC East. They're three six and one.
Speaker 1: Everybody else is three and seven, and unless the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in the Washington football team end up in a tie,
Speaker 1: someone Washington or Dallas will take over the lead at
Speaker 1: least temporarily, at least until the Monday night game or
Speaker 1: Sunday as well with the Giants. But Monday Night with
Speaker 1: the Eagles playing hosting the Seahawks, I wonder if the
Speaker 1: Seahawks might be an interesting survivor pick for some who
Speaker 1: want to go a little contrary and thanks, I'll say
Speaker 1: the last time thanksgivings a wing in a prayer. After that,
Speaker 1: Sunday is difficult. Dolphins are good. That's the gauntlet that
Speaker 1: you can always still fade the Jets if you have
Speaker 1: the If you have the Dolphins available to you, that's
Speaker 1: obviously the the go to. So in the end, here's
Speaker 1: what I like, Chrissie. I'll start today, Uh, Tennessee. You're
Speaker 1: telling me they're getting more than three at Indianapolis. I'll
Speaker 1: take Tennessee if I'm getting three in a hook. Tennessee
Speaker 1: has been very very good to me through through the
Speaker 1: last couple of seasons. Arizona at New England. What was
Speaker 1: the number you were posted on that one of my posting,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna post three. Ye give me the Cardinals. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I mean it's that it's two and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: give me the Cardinals all day and then the final
Speaker 1: final one for me would be Casey if it's only
Speaker 1: three at Tampa Bay. Lead Casey. How about you? I
Speaker 1: favor all those member I like Pittsburgh, Arizona, Tennessee, and
Speaker 1: I like Seattle. Pittsburg and Seattle. Yeah, I kind of
Speaker 1: like Seattle. You might talk me into that. Chris Andrew's everybody. Chrissy,
Speaker 1: I thank you as always an enjoyable two hours each
Speaker 1: and every week. I look forward to it next week
Speaker 1: as well. Always could pleasure my friend. Great talking to you,
Speaker 1: and happy Thanksgiving to uh Chrissy and to all of you.
Speaker 1: We'll say that many more times between now and Thursday.
Speaker 1: Good luck with Monday Night football and everything you're betting
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