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Speaker 1: basically briefs the girls and he's like, there's this tech

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00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: bro and his technology was stolen. You have to like

426
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: rescue him and then figure out where his technology was stolen.

427
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: And they guess at the very beginning that it's this

428
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: like evil girl who's like his accomplice or whatever, and

429
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: they guessed right, and she ends up kind of being

430
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: the bad girl along with she's kind of like she's

431
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: like a side character. I would not say she's the villain.

432
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: She is. She her and her and there are in

433
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: a romantic relationship, but she's like she's an accomplice. She's not.

434
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: She's not the girl in the way that that you know,

435
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: Demi Moore is the girl in se That's true, that's sure. Yeah,

436
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: she's a little secondary um, but yeah. And then and

437
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 1: then the plot that follows is really actually like completely nonsensical.

438
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: They just basically like fight and seduce men over and

439
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: over again to kind of find these little clues along

440
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: the way before they, you know, it becomes known to

441
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: them that they're being set up and the whole the

442
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: whole mission was a set up to find Charlie and

443
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: kill him. Yes, and I would say it's not so

444
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: much a seduction as a titilation. Um. They definitely they

445
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: weaponize their sensuality more than their sexuality, you know, I

446
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: think let's let's start with that because I want I'm

447
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: not sure. I'm not sure about like I feel like

448
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: this movie. Um well, okay, I'll ask you first. What

449
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: is your relationship to Charlie's Angels aside from the dolls? Yeah,

450
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: well I loved I saw the movies when they came out,

451
00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: loved them, was like consumed everything I could about them. Um,

452
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: you know they are I think of this era some

453
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: of my favorite movies. Yeah, and the movies that are

454
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: like horrendously problematic and yet you will rewatch them over

455
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: and over again, like they really are in my opinion

456
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: that good, having as someone who watched them recently, not

457
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: really like at the time they came out. They're very

458
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: of their time, yes, yeah yeah, um, But like on

459
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: the sensuality of it all, it's really interesting because the

460
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: original seventies show was like, you know, the the biggest

461
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: the reason it was such a hit, or the first

462
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: season was a hit until fair Face that left it, Um,

463
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: was because it was just like women and like scantily

464
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: clad clothing, solving crimes and stuff like that, and like

465
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: their whole like it actually was a part of like

466
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: an era of what they called jiggle television, which is

467
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: like The Bay Watches and The Wonder Woman's of the World,

468
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: where like it was just like watching women in like

469
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: tight clothing, you know, jump around in like solve crimes

470
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: or whatever or like be kind of badasses and I

471
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: And so when they redid it in two thousand, they

472
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: kind of almost like they really borrowed from that that

473
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: kind of like that part of the appeal and then

474
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: made it kind of like self aware and funny and

475
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: and weird at times, Like it's a very like Zany movie,

476
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like all three of them

477
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 1: are giving like cartoon totally. I think a lot of

478
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: reboots that we have today are really hard reboots where

479
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: they take the like essence of something but really place

480
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: it in the modern era. And I think what Charlie's

481
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: Angels did really well and that actually radiated out to

482
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: the culture was brought a very seventies sensibility along with

483
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: I guess like the framework of the story. And I

484
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: would say that Charlie's Angels kind of jump started like

485
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: a sort of seventies revive liable in pop culture that

486
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: we're now seeing again because of like the twenty or trendcycle.

487
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: Um like like this is kind of around the same

488
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: time as like Madonna's Um music albums Boston Powers era too. Yeah. Okay, yeah,

489
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: well that was like maybe that was more like late nineties,

490
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: but it's yeah, it's kind of all the same time,

491
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: and we're now also seeing that seventies revival happening now

492
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: in fashion and like kind of in music too. There's

493
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: something really interesting to me about like how the girls

494
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: like sexuality plays into the movie, and I think that

495
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: there is a big dissonance between what the writer's intents

496
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: were and how we actually consume it, you know, especially

497
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: in because this movie was written by three white guys,

498
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: and a lot of the things that happened to the

499
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: girls are products of like a male imagination, like like

500
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: shaking your ass for no one and being like a

501
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: bimbo to like the mail guy being like, oh yeah,

502
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: you can put the package in my slot, you know,

503
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: or like I mean, they're constantly naked for no reason.

504
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: There's like tons of like camera angles on their body

505
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: for no reason, and like and then a majority of

506
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: the steps that they take in the first movie to

507
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: solve the plot involve them seducing men or tricking them

508
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: into you know, like using their basically how hot they are.

509
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: What I mean when I say that, I think it's

510
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: more like like um sensuality than sexuality, And I don't

511
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: really see it a seduction. Is that Like, yes, I

512
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: agree that this movie very much like is the male

513
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: gaze is all over it, but it's like it's more

514
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: like bending over a car to show your tips than

515
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: like giving someone a lap dance. Like there there it

516
00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: is like a very wink wink. It's horny, but I

517
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: don't think it fucks yeah, it's it's horny too comical degree,

518
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: like they these women are comedically hot, like the number

519
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: of times they like take off their helmet to like

520
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: swish their hair or whatever, like it's hilarious. And I think, actually,

521
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: like part of it is that these women are such

522
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: stars that like their charisma, unique servan talent kind of

523
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: overpowers the male gaze of the directors and the writers

524
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: a little bit. And what it is is they were

525
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: in on the joke. They were in on the joke

526
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: that like a lot of women in a way that

527
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: a lot of women in film don't always get to

528
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: be when the film is about the male gaze. Yeah,

529
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: and I think that they took what we're extremely underwritten characters, right,

530
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: Like the movie has like no brain And I don't

531
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: say that in a pejorative way, like I like no

532
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: brain culture. I love idiot culture, like I like consuming

533
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: movies that are that easy. But like I totally agree that,

534
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: like these women are so have nothing going on in

535
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: their inner lives and and then they all have like

536
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, little dating montages where they have like boy problems.

537
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with the plot, but the

538
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: three stars in this movie fill in so many blanks

539
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: with their performances and with the like very like singular

540
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: and like totally off the cuff wacky things that they

541
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: do in terms of like acting choices that are just

542
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: like endlessly fun to watch, especially Drew. I mean, Cameron

543
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: is also just like such a cartoon but like Drew

544
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 1: to me is like the Cameron is. It's really funny

545
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: now looking back on it and the like who these

546
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: women are in pop culture now because Cameron is very

547
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: obviously the star of these movies, like she has the

548
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: center position. But I think because of these movies, like

549
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: these women all got on the like the same level

550
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: of fame after these movies, and it's just interesting to

551
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: see where their careers have gone now where, Like Cameron

552
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: ds doesn't act anymore. She has like a wine company.

553
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: M Drew is a talk show host. And Lucy does

554
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: TV TV and lesbian art. What does she do on TV?

555
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: She's on was on I don't know if it's still

556
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: on the air. She was on the Sherlock Holmes TV

557
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: show Elementary. Yes, but if you also just google Watson,

558
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: if you google like Lucy lou like painting or whatever

559
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: she has, Like so she's several pieces of extremely sapphic

560
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: art and I love What I love about um these

561
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: movies is like these girls are best friends because of

562
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: them in a real way. And like when Drew launched

563
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: her TV show, they all reunited for an interview where

564
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: Cameron was like, c G, I'd in wait was she

565
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: really was this pandemic times or something? Or oh that sucks?

566
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Yeah, I just I feel like,

567
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to get into the reboot yet,

568
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: Like I mean the reboot reboot the Kristin Stewart one,

569
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: but like I think it's a lot of what that

570
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: one lacked is that these three women were arrived like stars,

571
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: and then what they did with like a kind of

572
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: you know, very male. Script was like so sublime and

573
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: like completely I don't know, transformative, Like if we had

574
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: gotten different actresses, like if it had been Thanny Newton

575
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: instead of Lucy lu which is like I just like

576
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: it would have been different, you know what I mean.

577
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: Cameron Diaz, I mean like she played kind of a

578
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: very similar character. And the sweetest thing like this was

579
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: these were roles that were interesting to her that she

580
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: wanted to do something with and like Lucy Lou and

581
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: like something like um, kill Bill or whatever, Like she's

582
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: sucking smart and she knows like what she can do

583
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: with like a complex like role about a woman that

584
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: like you know, is like a badass or whatever. I

585
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: also said about something recently that um something was like

586
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: post Spice Girls, girl power, and like this movie is

587
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: very that And that's why they're in on the joke,

588
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: because this was a time in pop culture where there

589
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: was like a mainstream movement of female empowerment that was

590
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: like a little shallow um but still existed, and this

591
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: movie definitely feels like a byproduct of that. Even though

592
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: this was like one of the most successful movies of

593
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: the year. Two Bounds and like the movie was critically

594
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: like made fun of, like immensely, like people like I

595
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: knew it was very dumb, and I think that like

596
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: people liked to exactly what you said. I think people

597
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: caught onto that component of it, but we didn't care.

598
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: And I think that rewatching it now in there are

599
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: there are a lot of tropes in it that are

600
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: actually more resonant to the way we talk about and

601
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: enjoy things now. The things that we find funny are

602
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: somewhat even funnier now in terms of like I think

603
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: I'm thinking specifically of the bimbo ifacation of like are

604
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: you know internet talk right now and how we're identifying

605
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: as bimbos on TikTok and on Instagram or whatever. We're

606
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: reclaiming this like kind of sexuality because it's like bimbo

607
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: for it's like bimbos for the consumption of bimbos, not

608
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: for the consumption of men. And so it almost is

609
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: like when you're watching this movie, they're not giving to

610
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: the performance to the men, you know what I mean,

611
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of what it feels like. It's like

612
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: there's a zane nous too, especially someone like Drew Barrymore

613
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: in the movie where that doesn't feel sexy, it feels

614
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: knowingly comedic and like totally in her own kind of

615
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: like power. And I think it's also just like another

616
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: layer that they're exploiting the idiocy and horny nous of

617
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: men for their benefit, you know, like theyre they know

618
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: how to kind of like usurp the situation. It's it's

619
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: kind of like the perfect storm. Like I think the

620
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: planet's really aligned on this one, and if maybe one

621
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: thing had been off, it just would not have worked.

622
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: As like you kind of seeing the sequel, which, like

623
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: I love Charlie's Angels full throttle, it's definitely not as

624
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: good of a movie and it's like much more of

625
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: a so bad it's good kind of movie. Um. In

626
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: the sequel, you have Demi Moore as um, a fallen angel,

627
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: you know, she's like a former angel who turns out

628
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: to be the villain. And the I think it's just

629
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: um two it's like to self aware or no. I

630
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: think maybe like the first one is more self aware

631
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: and the second one is like buying into its own

632
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: bullshit a little bit. I think for me, it's like

633
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: there's an off the rails nous in the first movie

634
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: that was so rewarded that they kind of take it

635
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: too far. In the second movie, they really discard the

636
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: audiences intelligence, you know what I mean. It's like the

637
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: plot really doesn't matter. In the second one. You know

638
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: some I mean great visual moments like Demi Moore with

639
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Speaker 1: the surfboard is so hot. I've some great lines for

640
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Speaker 1: saying I was never good. I was great. Yeah, there

641
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: are a lot of good lines in both of the movies.

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Speaker 1: I remember one of I can't remember the name of

643
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Speaker 1: the villain lady in the first movie, but she says like,

644
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: don't send a man to do a woman's job. Like

645
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: they're just lots very like the the whole thing of

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00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: the movie. Yeah, I loved In the first movie, there's

647
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: this moment where Lucy is like, for some reason unknown

648
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: to me, there's a company that hires her as a

649
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: like an efficiency expert. When she walks into Baraco. Oh

650
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: my god, that is like one of the hottest things

651
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: that I've ever been captured on films. With the riding

652
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Speaker 1: crop and with Cameron Diaz Andrew Barrymore behind her in

653
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Speaker 1: Drag also early Melissa McCarthy McCarthy is is and not um.

654
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Speaker 1: She has like three lines. There's like a lot of

655
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Speaker 1: weird like um, you know, kind of pre famous people

656
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: like Shyla Buff's in the second one. Oh yeah, Crispin Glovers,

657
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: the weird the um Tim Curry was famous at the time,

658
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: but like he was in this, he was in the

659
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Speaker 1: first one also put post or like I guess this

660
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Speaker 1: was maybe during friends. Matt le Blanc, Ye, Matt la Honestly, Okay,

661
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Speaker 1: here's the thing. Actually, there are a lot of I

662
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: feel like Cameron Diaz, Matt le Blanc and Tim Curry

663
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Speaker 1: are like a great treat of like idiot culture movies.

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Speaker 1: Like they kind of only do very movies that you

665
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Speaker 1: have to like concede your own like cognitive thinking skills

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Speaker 1: in order to enjoy. I don't I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I I don't think I want you speaking on camera

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Speaker 1: dias like that name a movie that wasn't um being

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Speaker 1: John Malkovich that camera did that was like a prestige

670
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Speaker 1: performance or in her shoes. Yeah, I mean that is

671
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Speaker 1: a stunning the holiday shut the funk up, that is

672
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not again I have to say when

673
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: I say things are idiotic, that is a high compliment.

674
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: In my book, it feels judgment adult to me. No, no, no,

675
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: I am an idiot. Rose, you know this, I know this.

676
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I really pride myself on being a

677
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: very smart idiot. I I like things that combine idiot

678
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: culture and like things that you know, you can intellectualize.

679
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think we can take a moment

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Speaker 1: to talk about the careers that these women have had.

681
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: Cameron Diaz, you know, was a movie star, Like she

682
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: was one of the A list girls, you know, Drew

683
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: she had already started her like ascent back into superstardom

684
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: after her like you know, troubled teenage years. And I

685
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: think actually Flower Films, her production company produced Charlie Angels. Yeah,

686
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: she's probably like one of the engines that like this.

687
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: She was asked after Elizabeth Banks decided she was going

688
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: to do it, she was asked to be an executive

689
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: producer that makes sense us. And then Lucy she was

690
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: a TV girl because she was on Ally McBeal, and

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00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: then I think this was her big film breakthrough Allie mcbell.

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00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 1: I've actually never seen Ally mcgeil. I used to watch

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00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: it when my parents watched it. I mean it's like,

694
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: you know, a weird law procedural. It was workplace where

695
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: I thought it had like their disguises, they're no, no, no, yeah,

696
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: it's about it's about a law firm and like everyone

697
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: sleeping together. We thought it was about spies. Allie mcbell

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00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: who plays Ali again Callista Flockhart. That is not a

699
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: name name. Say it again, Callista Flockhart. She's married to

700
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: Harrison Force. It sounds like like you sneezed or something.

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00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: Lista Flockhart and Jane kirk House also, um okay, since

702
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: this is yesterday's pop culture with today's takes, we have

703
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: to like briefly acknowledge that, like this movie is like

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00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: egregiously racist, like these women. So first of all, I

705
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: mean I could do the laundry list. But like the opening,

706
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: the opening scene is has like a great LLL cool

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00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: J cameo where he like jumps Sado plane and like

708
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: saves people from this bomb and then they land in

709
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: the in this boat off of the plane and L

710
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: cool J route takes off his mask to reveal himself

711
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: to this movie was huge for boats, huge for boats,

712
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: huge form white women pretending to be ethnicities that that

713
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: end races that they're not huge for boats because then

714
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: Tom Green also later has a boat. Oh really and

715
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: Tom Green? This was when Tom Green and Drew Barrymore

716
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: were married. Oh Chad, right, Okay, yeah, okay, so that's

717
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: like anyways, this L cool J moment is like the

718
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: casting the first time, And again I have to say

719
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I think I want to acknowledge these things,

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Speaker 1: not because I'm like canceled. You're not allowed to enjoy

721
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: this movie. As we always say, it's just like important

722
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: that the context sticks to it when we like talk

723
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: about it. But like, I mean, they is there's a

724
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Speaker 1: moment where they all dress up in kimonos and I

725
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: think I'm turning Japanese plays on the soundtrack. There is

726
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: a moment where Drew Barrymore is a literal brown face

727
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: when they're all belly dancers, which also doesn't make why

728
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: are the other two girls not in brown face? Like

729
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: why was Drew was like like, I'm the one that's

730
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: gonna do this. I was so confused by that. Um

731
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: there is just like there's a moment where Cameron Diaz

732
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: gets on soul train and she starts dancing to anaconda

733
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: and all the black people in the room were like,

734
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: what's going on? And then they all sharing for no reason,

735
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: which like I will never be mad about Cameron Diaz,

736
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: like you know, dance sequence, but like why did the

737
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: writers go out of their way to do this so

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Speaker 1: many times? Also, is her love interest Luke Wilson or

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00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: Owen Wilson. I can never I can never figure out

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Speaker 1: which one is. It's Luke and he's stunning. I think

741
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: I like Owen more because of his big nose. Yeah,

742
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, as we've said before, Alan Wilson does

743
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 1: have the quintessential shovel face. Anyways, a lot of things

744
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: like that in the movie. Um, even honestly, well, I

745
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: was going to say the Dominatrix thing is like a

746
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: little fetishistic, but like, for the most part, it's just

747
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: like the movie. No, it's just hot. It's just hot.

748
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: It is so hot. Come on, yeah, yeah, you're like,

749
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: don't ruin everything. What I'm mostly trying to say is

750
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: the movie was very evidently written by three white guys,

751
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: three straight white guys. Actually, I think John August is gay, um,

752
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: but he's like a dungeon and Dragon's gay, So I

753
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: think that kind of says a lot. The fight scenes

754
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: are very iconic, and they performed them all in like

755
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: stiletto heels, so funny, so like another way that like

756
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: that is something that really hits in twenty one. The

757
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: disguises that they wear are incredible and like iconic. They

758
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: are Look, they are just so hot. They are so hot.

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00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: The scene where they're at the race track, Oh my god, incredible,

760
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean each And in the second movie when they're

761
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: in the like leader hosen dresses. Wow, yet another culture

762
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: that they rading yodelers. Wait, no, that's in the first movie. Yeah,

763
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: the first in the first way because Bill Murray, I

764
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: guess Bill Murray didn't return. That was them seducing another

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Speaker 1: random guy by being like sexy leader house and girls

766
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: that like spank each other and stuff. Again, like I

767
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: just I loved it, but because of the bimbo thing.

768
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: It's so good. But you know what, you know what

769
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Speaker 1: I didn't love because it does not lean into the

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00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: bim bonus of it all was the two thousand nineteen

771
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Speaker 1: remake starring Kristen Stewart. And listen on this on this podcast,

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00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: This is a Christian Stewart stand podcast. We are Chrisbians,

773
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: Um we lift Christin Stewart up in celebration even though

774
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: you know we're down bad because she lost the Oscar.

775
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: But the Charlie's Angels reboot that she started was a

776
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: huge mega flop in in in industry terms, what we

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00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: would call a huge mega flop dodo cock up cataclysmically

778
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: um financially a loss for everyone involved. It's like, honestly,

779
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: it's not even then, it's like offensively bad. It's just nothing.

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00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: It's boring, the worst thing it could be, worst thing, yes, yes,

781
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: so boring. So it's like it actually maybe like a

782
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: jump started girl Boss culture um like culture. It was

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00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: the inciting incident. It's it's really I can't remember a

784
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: single thing that happened in it, I when I tell you,

785
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: And actually the only thing I can remember is the

786
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: Verne Cox showing up at the end, which good for her.

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00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: I hope the check cleared, like the final like that.

788
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't even remember. At the end,

789
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: there's like a montage of all of the new angels

790
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: that are like in an operation, and Laverne is one

791
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: of them. I was very stoned when I watched the movie.

792
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: But I I absolutely and this is no exaggeration, retained

793
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: not one single moment, set piece, scene, plot point, character name, nothing.

794
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: I saw an advanced press screening of it, and I

795
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: was just flabbergasted how bad it was. And I think, here,

796
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: here's the thing, is that this is like a comment,

797
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: this is a recurring theme on like a Virgin is

798
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: like people set out to make reboots and they spend

799
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: a hundred percent of their energy worrying about how they're

800
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: going to fix the old thing instead of just making

801
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: a good movie. Yeah, and that's what I think is

802
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: great about the two tho movies. It's not trying to

803
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: fix there's no intention. I mean not to excuse all

804
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: the egregiously like racist things, but like it's like it

805
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: has no intention in doing no, it's just trying to

806
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: be fun. Yeah, and it was. It was not stuff

807
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: fun And like I think, you know, I personally think

808
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: that that this has to be this is a director problem.

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00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry Elizabeth Banks, like we're proud of you,

810
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 1: but like this is this is a director problem. And

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Speaker 1: as I kind of alluded to earlier, it's a casting problem.

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00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: Like I love case do, but this was not the

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00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 1: role for her. I think she was fine. I don't

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Speaker 1: know who, well, who were the other two specifically do

815
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: you remember that was fine? What? What do you what

816
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: did you retain that you thought so great? Where he

817
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: was fine? I was just happy to be looking at her.

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00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: But oh, that's an interesting answer. Do you remember you know,

819
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Speaker 1: an outfit, a line, a moment, a motivation. Do you

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00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: remember anything that Christian Stewart did in this I remember

821
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: there's a scene where she like flirts with some girl. Yeah,

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00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: I remember, I actually don't. I probably completely misremembering this,

823
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Speaker 1: but I remember her being kind of like a like

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Speaker 1: a womanizing lesbian, like she's like she's giving the England

825
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: in the Batman. But but literally, who were the other

826
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Speaker 1: two women in this movie? That's the thing that was

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00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: the problem is like they were there was no charisma,

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00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: unique as a rman talent. Yes, I want to know

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Speaker 1: who the other girls on deck were, because these girls

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Speaker 1: are I'm sorry, nobody's no one has ever heard of

831
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Speaker 1: these other two women. And then like, we commend you

832
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: for like inclusive casting, but we how can we commend

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00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: it if it didn't even if it if none of

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Speaker 1: that translate inclusively cast better actress. Yes, there's so many

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00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: other amazing women that could have been in this movie

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00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: that we're stars and I really do feel like because

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00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: the plot isn't that important, the movie necessitates stars and

838
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: so like Christian Stewart, in my opinion, is like the

839
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 1: right direction. Like she's someone who can be in action

840
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: and like she can play a badass. And I like

841
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: that they made the character like a lesbian or by two,

842
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: but like it was unspecified and specified, which is so annoying,

843
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: Like that's so toothless. Um but like she's not Christmas

844
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Speaker 1: Ward's not funny. She's not funny. She's not she's the

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Speaker 1: most she's an incredible actress, but she's not funny. Yes, yes, exactly,

846
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: and and and she does not and she does not

847
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: have the kind of presence that you know, Drew Cameron

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Speaker 1: and Lucy had. But I will say, if there's one

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Speaker 1: thing this movie did get right, is that they really

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Speaker 1: fed the rnators. Okay, oh my god, that song with

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Speaker 1: with um Ari Lana and Miley and Miley, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: the only like semi good thing to come out of

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Speaker 1: this movie. And even still that song is like and

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00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: not great. Ari executive produced the soundtrack, which is why

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Speaker 1: she's on five of the songs, on on one of

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Speaker 1: the songs. Okay, yeah, but this, so it's kind of

857
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: a Dr Luke production as well. Yeah, but um, you

858
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: know the movie in that music video is just so stupid.

859
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: It's like one of these things is not like the other.

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Speaker 1: She's like it's like the music video takes a xan

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Speaker 1: X and she appears and I love Lana. I am

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Speaker 1: a Laana Neator. I thought a lot of was I

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00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: thought a lot of I thought Lana was kind of

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00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: good in that in the in the song too, from

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Speaker 1: what I remember, but I mean, honestly, it was it

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Speaker 1: was during a weird era for Lana. It was during

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Speaker 1: the honeymoon period, which I you know, should have been

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Speaker 1: one of the other girls, honestly. Okay, So when when

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Speaker 1: this movie is inevitably when Charlie's Angels is rebooted again

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00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: in another you know, twenty years, I think we should

871
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: write the script and it should be an all male reboot.

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00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: Did you know that they literally actually tried to make

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Speaker 1: an all male reboot of Charlie's Angels in the seventies.

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00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, Um, isn't just like James Bond Charlie's

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00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: Angels and all males literally every act movie is an

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00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: all male reboot. The Kingsman. So when we make it,

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00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: when we make it in twenty all of the angels

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00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: are non binary, one of them the one of them

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00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: is non binary, one of them is transfem. Yeah, it

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00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: has to be two different kinds of nonminarya and then

881
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: one of them is I think we need assist. We

882
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: need assist person to you know, ground everyone, because two

883
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: non binary people aren't going to get anything done. Okay,

884
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: sis lesbian um who's starring at it? Well, let's think

885
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: of like famous children, so be non binary. Blue Ivy

886
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: Carter is one of them. Oh Blue would and you know,

887
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: because we got to keep the girls young. Well, let's

888
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: say for the sake of the exercise that the reboot's

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00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 1: happening now. Okay, so we're making it today. We're making

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00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: a new Charlie's Angels. They're bimbos. The gotta all be bimbos. Okay,

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00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: So one of them is Addison Ray. Okay, Addison Ray,

892
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: Willow Willow Smith, you think, but can Willow act? Probably?

893
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: Can she be funny? Okay? Maybe we need a bigger

894
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: what about Oh I was if you said, okay, hunter

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00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: shape for Hunter could be funny, I was going to

896
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: actually say trace less at Sidney Sweeney. Sydney Sweeney. Okayney

897
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: Sweeney is the the Cameron, but she's not the center. Okay, no, no,

898
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: she's also playing lesbian. Okay. I was gonna say, Synda,

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Speaker 1: we'll just do the cast of Euphoria. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I actually don't think Hunters right for them. No, I

901
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: don't think so either. I think she's also she could

902
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: be funny, but she's not funny enough. I think it's

903
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: because I want this to be an action comedy. Mikaela

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00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: j is actually such a funny person and we didn't

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00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: really get to see that in Pose as much. And

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00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: I feel like MJ has like a a quanky something.

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00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: You know. Who I would actually rather have is um Hayley,

908
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: who played Lulu on Pose. I kind of think that

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00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: she I has some comedic chops and I think I

910
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: would love to see her do action and she is

911
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: maybe like the seductress of the group. Yeah, honestly, does

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00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: that mean Harry's going to be Bosley? Harry is just

913
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: gonna appear in every reboot we try, and and then

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Speaker 1: I think we do need a woman in Stem as

915
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: the as like the third as the third girl. Yeah, actually,

916
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: one of the Angels should be a fag. She's one

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Speaker 1: of the girls, you know. Yeah it's or No, Actually,

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00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: I think a Bosley should be a fag. Bosley is

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00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: played by Neil Patrick Harri. I like the idea, but

920
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: of a fag doing it, but after Neil did the Matrix,

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00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't don't want him. Not Neil, don't fag cast

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00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: in anything ever again. Um. I think Bosley is like

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Speaker 1: Sandra Oh or like Tracy Allows. Santra Oh is a

924
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: very good boss. Yeah yeah, yeah, I really feel that

925
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: for her after like killing Eve, like I can, I

926
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,479
Speaker 1: can get into that. Actually, I also think Bowen would

927
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 1: be a good boss. Bone would be an amazing Bossley,

928
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: but I feel like Bowen should actually be the villain.

929
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Speaker 1: Bowen should be the villain. Bowen should be the villain.

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Speaker 1: Or I think Bowen is like not the final boss villain,

931
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: but Bowen is like the Crispin Glover. Okay, okay, I

932
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Speaker 1: love that. Okay, yeah, it's the weird like assassin. Sure, yeah, okay,

933
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Speaker 1: I think actually I would I would sub if we're not,

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Speaker 1: I think it should be Barbie Very should be as

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Speaker 1: an angel because she is also extremely funny in a

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Speaker 1: in a UM I'm just an awkward human. She's really

937
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: good at being like awkward human funny. I think Aubrey

938
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Speaker 1: Plaza would also be great. She's too old. You think

939
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: she's too old old? Okay, what about Christin Stewart again,

940
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Speaker 1: Kristen Stewart again, Let's give her another chance? What about

941
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: got Nick in drag No one who's ever been on

942
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Speaker 1: drag Race? Okay, we're going to need to do a

943
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Speaker 1: search for the next l Woods type realitum no, no, no, no,

944
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: because that's what that's that's this movie that created the

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00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: problem in the first places. They were trying to break

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Speaker 1: out two stars, and we just need people that are

947
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: already stars. Okay, so I wanted to be a Cameron,

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Speaker 1: Lucy and Drew and they're playing like they're playing early twenties,

949
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Speaker 1: but they there's no there's no c g I. Like,

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Speaker 1: we just don't reference the fact that they are women

951
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: of a certain age like pen fifteen, yes, or they

952
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: could just be c g I t oblivion and there

953
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: we make them looks like a literal video game. The

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00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: whole movie just looks like, okay, maybe this reboot is

955
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: actually a video game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I've

956
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: never played but have now referenced on this podcast several times.

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00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Yeah, that's that's very specific thing

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00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: to refer Maybe Kylie Jenner's one of the angels. I

959
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: actually would love a Jenner or Kadashian to be an angel.

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00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: I would I would love that. Also, Caitlin is the villain.

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Speaker 1: Caitlin is the final boss villain or no, Caitlin is

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Speaker 1: Charlie good Mortar Carol. No, wait, she does have the

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Speaker 1: voice for it. She has a very like she has

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Speaker 1: bad babies. Every time she hits on. You can call

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