WEBVTT - Selects: How the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World Work, Part II

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck here.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope everyone's doing well on this lovely Saturday. I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta say, if you've been sitting around for two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>wondering what the other seven Wonders of the Ancient World are, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that is some serious patients, my friends. So here it

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<v Speaker 2>is Part two, continuing from two weeks ago, How the

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<v Speaker 2>Seven Wonders of the Ancient World work. Welcome to Stuff

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<v Speaker 2>You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and

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<v Speaker 3>there's Charles w O'Bryant, and there's guest producer Noel again.

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<v Speaker 3>And that makes this Stuff you Should Know Part two.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever see hot Shots Part two? The sequel?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know, I didn't see a lot of those

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<v Speaker 2>movies at all, except for the airplane movies and the

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<v Speaker 2>naked gun movies.

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<v Speaker 3>The hot Shots movies were worth seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>Did not see those. Did not see any of the

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<v Speaker 2>scary movies.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the scary movies? You haven't seen those?

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<v Speaker 1>Nope?

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<v Speaker 3>All of them are good, Like every single one of

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<v Speaker 3>those are good.

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<v Speaker 1>Really?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I did record a movie crush yesterday with uh for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Movie Scream though, Oh yeah, with who Nate Bargatzi uh

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<v Speaker 2>huh comedian. Sure, so we It was interesting that I

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<v Speaker 2>had to do Scream research in like that movie changed

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<v Speaker 2>like horror movies were on their last legs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to say that something else might not have come along,

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<v Speaker 2>But it was Scream that like revitalized a genre.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was kind of a watershed movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Did we talk about that in the horror movies that

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<v Speaker 3>changed the the genre? I'm pretty sure we had to.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, if we didn't, we missed out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. If we didn't, we probably just said and obviously

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<v Speaker 3>Scream we don't even need to mention that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it launched the Scream franchise. It launched the scary

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<v Speaker 2>movie franchise in a way m hm oh yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>relaunched a genre.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so scary movies we're seeing hot shots is worth.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing naked guns were seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, although I would put either one of the

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<v Speaker 3>hot shots up against the third naked gun any day

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<v Speaker 3>of the week. That's that's that's my.

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<v Speaker 1>Bookie over the third naked gun. Yeah, okay, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then don't get me started on what was

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<v Speaker 3>it like the god Son? But what the god Son?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a Godfather spoof that Leslie Nielsen was

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<v Speaker 3>in with Dom de Luise. I haven't even seen five

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<v Speaker 3>minutes of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what that is. And you stump me,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, thank you. Well, that's a good start to

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<v Speaker 2>this episode. Do you think you're welcome?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you? Uh so, Chuck, Yes, we're moving on. We've

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<v Speaker 3>already talked about the Great Pyramids at Cufu, we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about the Hanging Gardens of Babylon and the Temple of

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<v Speaker 3>Artemis at afisis right, all three of them top top notch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't know what we're talking about now,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is your first episode of stuff, you should know. Ever,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the second of a two part episode.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven Ancient Seven Wonders the Ancient World, and here's part.

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<v Speaker 3>Two, right, and we're going to start with the statue

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<v Speaker 3>of Zeus at Olympia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>To say it like that, there's no other way to

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<v Speaker 3>say it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how Well, who's the guy's name, the the boxing guy.

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<v Speaker 3>That guy I don't know his name.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he used to stand at the statue of Zeus

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<v Speaker 2>and say that on an hourly basis.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, it's pretty pretty amazing stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So this one is one of my favorites, but not

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite. I promise that my favorite was in here,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is not quite it. Okay, although it's close,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, this is this is the main deal here,

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<v Speaker 2>Olympia Zeus. This is now run of the mill god

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<v Speaker 2>and some cast off city.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was the sight of the first Olympics, so

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<v Speaker 3>it was a pretty important city.

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<v Speaker 1>Very important it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was nowhere near Mount Olympus though, curiously, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was pretty pretty important, right, Yes, this one, to me

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<v Speaker 3>is the most ho hum of them all. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not quite sure why, but I am just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like whatever about it?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Well the temple. Let's talk about the temple

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<v Speaker 1>at first.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, And also I should warn you that this article

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<v Speaker 3>has the proportions wildly incorrect.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the how tall it was?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? What is it? For real?

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<v Speaker 3>This thing? This article says it was two hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>ten feet tall. That's a twenty story building. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>temple was not as tall as a twenty story building.

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<v Speaker 3>It was sixty eight feet tall.

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<v Speaker 1>How did they get it that wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just don't know, it's staggering. It's

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<v Speaker 3>as staggering as this temple would have been had it

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<v Speaker 3>been two hundred feet tall.

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<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't even say it was somewhere between sixty

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<v Speaker 2>eight and two hundred and ten feet, right, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's annoying.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything else is right about it though. Okay, so it

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<v Speaker 3>was sixty eight feet tall. Still pretty impressive, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>For the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, but I would have to say if somebody,

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<v Speaker 3>if you were driving through Dunwoodie he saw a sixty

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<v Speaker 3>eight foot tall temple, yeah, you would probably still be impressed,

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<v Speaker 3>even though somebody just built it. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>still impressive even today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so the temple's frail impressive, But inside we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the statue mainly the Greek artists. Phidias was commissioned,

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<v Speaker 2>and I imagine these artists were paid pretty handsomely for

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<v Speaker 2>these jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because you know, there's only a few of them

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<v Speaker 3>who are capable of doing this at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there are only a few people in

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<v Speaker 2>the world could do this now, right on something of

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<v Speaker 2>this scale. So they said, hey, Zeus is the man.

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<v Speaker 2>We want a statue of Zeus. And he said yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I can knock that out. It's four fifty BC. Shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>take me too long. Eight years later he was finished.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and he used some really weird materials. Like so

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<v Speaker 3>the temple itself, it was like a standard temple, sixty

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<v Speaker 3>eight feet tall, like all of them were a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of columns, that kind of thing. But the statue inside

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<v Speaker 3>is apparently what was the big draw. And one of

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<v Speaker 3>the reasons why it was something to see was because

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<v Speaker 3>Phidias used ivory and gold rather than marble, which is

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<v Speaker 3>it was pretty much what you used to make a

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<v Speaker 3>statue back at that time. And they think one of

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<v Speaker 3>the reasons why he used or not ebony, but ivory

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<v Speaker 3>and gold was right. But the reason why they thought

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<v Speaker 3>that was because he was building a statue to Zeus, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so it needed to be special. This is like the

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<v Speaker 3>king of the gods.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and ivory was definitely something that people would travel

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<v Speaker 2>to see a statue made of ivory of Zeus. So basically,

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<v Speaker 2>Zus is sitting down in this statue, and he's sitting

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<v Speaker 2>just straight up. He's not like like you know how

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<v Speaker 2>the Lincoln and his memorials kind of chilling in his seat.

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<v Speaker 1>Zeus is not chilling. He's sitting up ready for action.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's like, what'd you say? What'd you say?

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of The statue itself was about fifty feet high,

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<v Speaker 2>which is super impressive. Like when you see a rendering

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<v Speaker 2>of what someone look like standing at the base of

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<v Speaker 2>this thing, it's really pretty striking.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things they said about it was

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<v Speaker 3>that if he stood up, he would have his head

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<v Speaker 3>would have burst through the roof of the of the temple. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>which was probably pretty cool to see too.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sitting down at fifty feet right, totally would have.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, he would have just been like Sue smash. So

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<v Speaker 3>he's holding in one hand a statue Nike, So it's

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<v Speaker 3>a statue holding a statue, and Nike is a wing

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<v Speaker 3>goddess a victory, right, so it's kind of like his

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<v Speaker 3>version of tinker Bell hanging out in his hand. And

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<v Speaker 3>on the other hand he's holding a scepter, which is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty appropriate for the King of the gods. And again

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<v Speaker 3>he's seated on this throne. And yeah, if you look

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<v Speaker 3>at artists rendering of them, we should say here, most

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<v Speaker 3>of this stuff, by the time these lists were written

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<v Speaker 3>were already aged and then they crumbled over time, so

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<v Speaker 3>we actually don't know exactly what they looked like. Some

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<v Speaker 3>people saw him firsthand, but a lot of this information

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<v Speaker 3>comes from second hand sources or even further down the

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<v Speaker 3>chain than that, so we're not exactly certain of what

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<v Speaker 3>they looked like. But for most of these, because they

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<v Speaker 3>were so widely regarded as seven Wonders of the ancient world,

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<v Speaker 3>that you have to see that enough people wrote about

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<v Speaker 3>him talked about him that if you really spent some time,

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<v Speaker 3>you could put these sources together and come with probably

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<v Speaker 3>an accurate description of what it looked like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>The remarkable thing about this one is, apparently, was the

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<v Speaker 2>expression on Zeus's face. Not only is he sitting straight

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<v Speaker 2>up ready for action, he just had this look on

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<v Speaker 2>his face.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of intimidating.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you could say, you've disappointed me and your mother.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, and the legend has it, and I don't buy

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<v Speaker 2>this at all, But Phidias said that once I'm finished

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<v Speaker 2>with this saying, he asked for Zeus's blessing on the sculpture,

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<v Speaker 2>and a bolt of lightning struck the temple at that

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<v Speaker 2>very moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, as a matter of fact, if you do

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<v Speaker 3>believe that, right in so we can tell you that

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<v Speaker 3>you're wrong. So there were a couple of issues with

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<v Speaker 3>this statue. Number one, it was built a couple hundred

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<v Speaker 3>years a few hundred years before Christianity began and then

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<v Speaker 3>started to spread in the area. Once that happened, the

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<v Speaker 3>worshipers of Zeus who still remained, said we need to

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<v Speaker 3>get this out of here. These Christians, they don't play around.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to get rid of this thing, right, And

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<v Speaker 3>they moved the statue to Constantinople and it stayed there

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<v Speaker 3>safe for a while, actually apparently housed in a palace.

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<v Speaker 3>But one of the things about the statue was it

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<v Speaker 3>was made of gold and ivory, but those things were

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<v Speaker 3>overlaid on top of a wooden sculpture. Yeah, which is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like it's pretty slack phidious. Maybe you should

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<v Speaker 3>have stuck with the marble. Maybe, But the palace in

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<v Speaker 3>Constantinople caught fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's a problem because marble doesn't burn, doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it would have survived, but he cheaked out,

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<v Speaker 2>let's be.

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<v Speaker 3>Honest, Yeah, he phoned this one in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they were right to have moved that thing,

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<v Speaker 2>because the Christians did come in and take care of business,

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<v Speaker 2>shut down that temple in three ninety one a d.

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<v Speaker 2>But by that time the statue was gone at least.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, burned it fire. So earthquakes and fires are

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<v Speaker 2>taking out all of the wonders.

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<v Speaker 3>Earthquakes, fires and Christians. Yeah, the great level is pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much so back in I think in nineteen fifty, this

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<v Speaker 3>guy and again like this stuff just sat in the

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<v Speaker 3>realm of legend for a long time. Although I think

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<v Speaker 3>the I think the ruins of the temple itself are

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<v Speaker 3>still around, aren't they that?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they might be. I like, over the last

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<v Speaker 3>two days, I've seen so many pictures of ancient temple

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<v Speaker 3>ruins that I'm like, which, wait, which one is that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>bush right, I think this one may still be around

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<v Speaker 3>in Olympia, the ruins of the temple, like you can

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<v Speaker 3>still make out a couple of steps leading up to

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of thing, and there's like the posts of

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of pillars or whatever. But they found in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifty the workshop that Phidias used beside the temple,

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<v Speaker 3>and apparently we're able to recreate using the molds that

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<v Speaker 3>they found probably what the statue looked like, which is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty impressive, just working from old molds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Not only that, but.

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<v Speaker 2>These were on coins, right, Oh, yeah, that's right, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the other one. Yeah, they were on Greek coins. So

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't one where you really had to guess so

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<v Speaker 2>much what it looked like because on those coins there

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of detail about what it looked like.

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<v Speaker 2>And because coins, you know, they were originated there, just

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<v Speaker 2>where they ended up eventually would give a little indication

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<v Speaker 2>on how far people had traveled come see this saying

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<v Speaker 2>when they carry those coins.

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<v Speaker 3>Back, Yeah, it made me wonder, like were those coins

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<v Speaker 3>currency or were they like souvenirs, like if you go

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<v Speaker 3>to Dollywood or Kennedy Space Center or something like that

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<v Speaker 3>and get a coin made.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't think about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder because I mean, this was an age where

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<v Speaker 3>there were tourists and they were already selling the replicas

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<v Speaker 3>of the Temple of Artemis as tourist mementos. I wonder

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<v Speaker 3>if these coins were that team. Yeah, pretty pretty neat

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<v Speaker 3>to think about ancient tourists.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we take a break, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm gonna contemplate that, and we'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>right after this.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, chuck, here's my second favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is in your favorite Huh Are you sure you

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<v Speaker 3>have a favorite?

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<v Speaker 1>I do. We're not there yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, well this is my second favorite, the

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<v Speaker 3>mausoleum at Halikar Nassas.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you don't like this one?

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<v Speaker 3>That was?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Masoleums, I don't know. You see one, you

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<v Speaker 1>see them all?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is the original one. Like the word mausoleum

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<v Speaker 3>came from this structure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that only goes so far with me. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>love that, the original thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I thought I thought you were like an etymology

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<v Speaker 3>kind of guy. Oh I can be, but just not

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<v Speaker 3>with mausoleum.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something about mausoleums that bugged.

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<v Speaker 3>Me because there's dead people interred inside.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just a lot of a lot of hubbub for

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<v Speaker 2>a dead body.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I see, I see. Yeah that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't want to knock it though.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, we'll just stop right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, if you're King Masulis, you deserve to to have

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<v Speaker 2>this named after you.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say that, especially if you're married to your

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<v Speaker 3>sister and she's madly in love with you, and you've

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<v Speaker 3>just died.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a little weird.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the Persian king of Karia, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>indeed married to his sister Artemisia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she.

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<v Speaker 2>Really really was in love with her brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah and husband.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was from what I understand, he seemed like

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty successful ruler. They had the mausoleum under construction

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<v Speaker 3>while he was still alive, and he died while before

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<v Speaker 3>it was finished, obviously, but his sister Artemisia, sister wife,

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<v Speaker 3>Artemisia was so broken up by it. She said, all right, stop,

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<v Speaker 3>stop what you're doing. This is not good enough. This

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<v Speaker 3>has to be the most amazing memorial anyone's ever made

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<v Speaker 3>to their husband. Brother. I've got to get in touch

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<v Speaker 3>with all of the greatest sculptors of the realm. And

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<v Speaker 3>she did. She got in touch with at least five

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<v Speaker 3>of the greatest sculptors alive at the time, and they

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<v Speaker 3>were headed by a guy named Pitheus, who not only

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<v Speaker 3>was one of the sculptors, he was the overseeing architect

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<v Speaker 3>of the entire project.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like he architected the whole thing. And then

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<v Speaker 2>she got a one sculptor per Si to embellish the

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<v Speaker 2>outside scope us Brexis, Reaxis, Leo, charis ole A, and Timothia.

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<v Speaker 1>That one's easy.

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<v Speaker 2>That one is easy, and this one has often been

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<v Speaker 2>called because she had all these different people working on it.

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<v Speaker 2>And not only that, but I think for years afterward

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<v Speaker 2>it became a place where artists could exhibit and showcase

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<v Speaker 2>their work. So in the end this thing ended up

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<v Speaker 2>being I think, not as coherent is what you would

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<v Speaker 2>think something might be when you just hire one person

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<v Speaker 2>to work on it.

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<v Speaker 3>For this episode and the last one, I went to

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<v Speaker 3>the site on museum. Have you ever heard of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>They were very helpful in researching this. And one of

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<v Speaker 3>the things the way they put it was that so

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<v Speaker 3>during construction, Artemisia died before it was completed, and the

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<v Speaker 3>five sculptors who were running the show looked at each

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<v Speaker 3>other and they were like, let's keep going. We could

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<v Speaker 3>stop here and leave it unfinished. But it became don't

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<v Speaker 3>do that though, well no, no, not true. Ones. It

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<v Speaker 3>became a temple, a monument, not just to Mazillius and

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<v Speaker 3>Artemesia who were entombed inside, but it became a monument

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<v Speaker 3>to art as.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that we can do whatever we want now, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And they did so, they went ahead and they

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<v Speaker 3>completed it, and it was a pretty impressive structure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The structure yourself, was about one hundred and forty feet tall.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I believe though that's a relief.

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<v Speaker 2>The base was about one hundred feet twenty four steps tall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then on either side of the steps, flanking

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<v Speaker 3>the steps were crouched lions, which is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Around the outside of the second the second tier where

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<v Speaker 3>you would walk into on all four corners there were

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<v Speaker 3>soldiers bounded on horseback, sculptures of them protecting the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, what else?

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<v Speaker 2>Pliny the Elder said, this thing is four hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty feet and the perimeter the thing is four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty feet So it was large, thirty six columns.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a big structure, very impressive. I didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>from the pictures that I saw of renderings. It didn't

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<v Speaker 2>look too busy to me.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not sure. The only place I saw that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of shade being thrown at it was in this

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<v Speaker 3>house stuff Works article.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I know that there were different people

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<v Speaker 2>working on it, but it didn't look like I expected

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<v Speaker 2>when I saw it to look.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a big mess, and it did not look like

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<v Speaker 1>a big mets.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it looked pretty neat and tidy. Right, Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things that I love about this thing

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<v Speaker 3>so again, Ardemisia and Masilius are entombed inside this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's also like just a place you would go,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, take a date or something on a Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>afternoon in the city of hell canisis Helicarnassis, Right, One

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<v Speaker 3>of the cool things about this is that this structure

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<v Speaker 3>stood for hundreds and hundreds of years after the city

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<v Speaker 3>of Helicarnassis fell to ruin around it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the imagining this abandoned, ruined town and in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of it is this one hundred and forty foot

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<v Speaker 3>tall mausoleum, the world's first mausoleum, with all these ornate

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<v Speaker 3>sculptures around it. This is almost completely out of context

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<v Speaker 3>with its surroundings now that the town is falling to ruin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is pretty cool for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But like all these other ones, earthquakes would eventually take

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<v Speaker 2>care of business in the fourteen hundreds and shake this

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<v Speaker 2>thing down and again, like a lot of these other stories,

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<v Speaker 2>in fourteen ninety four, they used the Knights of Saint

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<v Speaker 2>John of Malta said hey, let's take all this scrap

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<v Speaker 2>and use it for our own castle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a city as Helicarnassis fell to ruin. Another city

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<v Speaker 3>nearby grew up called Bodrum, and the ruins at Helericarnassus.

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<v Speaker 3>You would go to Bodrum today to view the ruins

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<v Speaker 3>of Helicarnassis. The mausoleum, i should say, but the big

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<v Speaker 3>draw apparently is the Knights of Saint John's castle, and

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<v Speaker 3>to build that castle, some of the scraps that they

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<v Speaker 3>used were from the mausoleum. So you can still see

0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:33.040
<v Speaker 3>original parts of the mausoleum, but they've been incorporated into

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<v Speaker 3>the structure of the castle that you would view. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>which is cool. So it's still around in some way, shape.

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<v Speaker 1>Or form totally. That's very cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But that earthquake that got it in the fourteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 3>it actually had a weird way of preserving some of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, So there are three big things that keep

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<v Speaker 3>coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>There is earthquakes that keep happening. There's people using scraps

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<v Speaker 3>to build other cities nearby, and then there's the British Museum.

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<v Speaker 3>Those three things figure into the Seven Wonders of the

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<v Speaker 3>Ancient World big time because there's a piece of one

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<v Speaker 3>of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World somewhere in

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<v Speaker 3>the world outside of its original location. It's probably in

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<v Speaker 3>the British Museum. And that's the case with some a

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<v Speaker 3>few things from the mausoleum at Helicarnassis. They think that

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<v Speaker 3>what happened was the earthquake toppled the sculpture of Masulis

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<v Speaker 3>and Artemisia riding a chariot pulled by four horses. It

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<v Speaker 3>was very famous that was on the top of the mausoleum,

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<v Speaker 3>that it fell and was covered by rubble so that

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<v Speaker 3>it was protected until it was finally excavated in the

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<v Speaker 3>nineteenth century when they found huge old chariot wheel. And

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<v Speaker 3>then they think the two sculptures of Artemisia and Mausoleus

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<v Speaker 3>and now they're all in the British Museum. But they

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<v Speaker 3>think that earthquake had a weird way of protecting it

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<v Speaker 3>from looted and reused by the Knights of Saint John

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<v Speaker 3>later on.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing, I'm telling you that's why it's my second favorite. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're coming upon my favorite. I wondered if this was it,

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<v Speaker 2>the Colossus of Rhodes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good way to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I like this one.

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<v Speaker 2>This was ancient Greece, and this one was the granddaddy

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<v Speaker 2>of them all statue wise, this one was even bigger

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<v Speaker 2>than the statue of Zeus at Olympia. Third century, and

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<v Speaker 2>Rhodes was an island, still as an island, and Macedonians

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<v Speaker 2>came knocking on the door, and they were angry, and

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted the help of the people of Rhodes because

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<v Speaker 2>Ptolemy was Ptolemy one that is was was conquering, and

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<v Speaker 2>they said, we need your help here. And the people

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<v Speaker 2>of Roads said, hey, we're not really, we don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to get involved in all that. We kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>it here on the island, living our peaceful lifestyle here.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. Plus, if they was in anybody they were allied with,

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<v Speaker 3>it was Ttolemy. Yeah, yeah, but they wanted to stay

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<v Speaker 3>out of any wars.

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<v Speaker 2>They just weren't into it, right, So they rebuffed the

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<v Speaker 2>Macedonians and they left, but they left behind a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of supplies and equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure why they did that actually.

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<v Speaker 3>So this article is so bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>The Macedonians besieged roads for over a year, and they

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<v Speaker 3>had these huge war machines that were made of like

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<v Speaker 3>bronze and wood and metal, and they would pull these

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<v Speaker 3>huge machines up to the city walls and like they

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<v Speaker 3>had catapults on top, and they were trying to crush

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<v Speaker 3>the city for a year. And when the Roodians finally

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<v Speaker 3>overcame the Macedonians, they were like, well, we're just leaving

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 3>the stuff behind. It's too big to move. It didn't

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:52.959
<v Speaker 3>work anyway, so we'll leave it. Yeah, that's why they

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<v Speaker 3>left it. This article puts it in a really weird way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. Yeah.

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 2>So they ended up using like selling away that stuff

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.919
<v Speaker 2>right to make the money to build in part the statue.

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:09.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they reused some of it directly for the statue.

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Like that huge thing that they used to besiege the

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:13.880
<v Speaker 3>city they pulled up to the walls, they actually used

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 3>that as scaffolding to build the statue with. Heck, yeah, yeah,

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 3>it's making plowshers out of uh, I don't know. Guns.

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 2>So they used the sculptor Charros of Lindos, and he said,

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 2>I got this one under control, and he used all

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:36.440
<v Speaker 2>these different materials iron, bronze, stone, and this one I'll

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 2>have wrapped up, oh in about twelve years, which they said,

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 2>that's about right.

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's not bad for what they did here.

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean this was one hundred and ten feet tall.

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it had a skeleton of iron, and inside the

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:53.919
<v Speaker 3>skeleton for structure, it had huge stone columns running through it.

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it was like the actual statue itself was

0:24:57.480 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 3>about as big as the Statue of Liberty is today

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 3>and followed like a pretty similar structure, but like a

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 3>thousand or so years before, a couple thousand years before.

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, people think from written accounts that it was holding

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 2>a torch like Lady Liberty does, and that the face

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:18.880
<v Speaker 2>was modeled after Alexander the Great. Some say, and here's

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:20.919
<v Speaker 2>where it gets interesting to me is if you look

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 2>up pictures of this thing, you will likely see it

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:30.160
<v Speaker 2>standing a straddle the entrance to the harbor, so literally

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:34.199
<v Speaker 2>standing there like kind of with his legs spread, and

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 2>you would have to sail a ship between his legs to.

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Get into the harbor.

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 3>You shouldn't look up, Yeah, don't look because the detail

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 3>was really amazing.

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Very amazing, and one hundred and ten feet high, like

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:48.439
<v Speaker 2>you know what you're going to be staring at. So

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 2>there are accounts and there are plenty of illustrations and

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 2>other things that support this, and it looks trust me,

0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 2>if you look it up, it looks very cool. Like

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:04.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, they into they were into making things this tall,

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 2>just because it was so mind blowing.

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 3>But also they were thanking their patron god Helios for

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 3>spading them from having to go to war, which is

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 3>pretty cool. I that's one of the reasons I like

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 3>this one is they were saying, like, you know what,

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 3>we stayed out of war, we managed to remain at peace.

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 3>We're going to build a monument to our god who

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 3>we assume helped us out.

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 2>But when they did these things, like with most of these,

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 2>I love that they were just like, well, you know,

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty foot high statue will be great.

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:34.400
<v Speaker 1>That's impressive.

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Like they would try and build things as large as

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 2>humanly literally possible engineering wise at the time.

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 3>I see your point. Yeah, that is pretty neat.

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:47.479
<v Speaker 2>So when you look at pictures of this straddling the harbor,

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 2>it's just like it's enormous. It's huge, Unfortunately, that's probably

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 2>not what he how he stood, right. That's the downer

0:26:56.880 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 2>here is that they didn't really have the the materials

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:05.680
<v Speaker 2>or the knowledge or the skill to do something like that.

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Like the reason that statues back then were basically straight

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 2>up and down is because that you needed that those

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:14.160
<v Speaker 2>legs to support the rest of the statue.

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they were atop a pedestal that could hold

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 3>the weight of the statue above it.

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 3>They would Also if each foot was on either side

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:29.640
<v Speaker 3>of the harbor, that's usually not the strongest solid ground

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 3>you can find, no, no way, So they wouldn't have

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 3>had any means of reinforcing the ground beneath it, So

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 3>it would have just sunk or fallen right over.

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 3>And plus the other thing too, Chuck, was that it

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 3>would have closed the harbor down, and they relied on

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 3>the harbor for their economy.

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's probably unlikely that it looked as cool

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 2>as it looks in pictures. And what happened to this

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 2>one fifty three years later?

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Yes, earthquake? Yep, fifty three years that is so quick.

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that didn't last long at all.

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 3>No, So the thing fell and they think that it

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:05.120
<v Speaker 3>probably was located closer to the center of town. Yeah,

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 3>somewhere inland. But that when it fell, it crushed a

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 3>bunch of people's houses and businesses, and some of it

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 3>probably fell into the harbor itself.

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 2>And this one was notable because I think because it

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 2>was so young when it fell. It's still it's not

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 2>like they were like, oh, let's get rid of this thing.

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 2>They let it lay there as a tourist attraction in

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 2>its prone state for many, many years, and people would

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 2>come far and wide to go visit the fallen statue.

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for almost a thousand years. It's crazy. Yeah, it

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 3>still stated a tourist attraction. Like apparently the cool thing

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 3>to do was to try to put your arms around

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 3>the thumb.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the thumb was bigger than most statues.

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Right, Like people couldn't get their arms, they couldn't touch

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 3>their hands around the thumb.

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Amazing.

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 3>And apparently also the arms fell off pretty They may

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 3>have even fallen off first during the earthquake. But did

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 3>you say it broke off at a the knees, just

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 3>below the knees, no, so those probably stayed for a while.

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 3>But the they like.

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>From the knee down, yeah, yeah.

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, which looks a little weird, Like that picture

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 3>of the person who suffered spontaneous combustion all that was

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 3>left their one leg, I'll bet it looked kind of

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 3>like that. But the stuff that was on the ground,

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 3>like you could see into like the armholes, and apparently

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 3>even that was just his breath ticking cavern. It was

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 3>just such a massive structure.

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>They're like, have you seen in those armholes?

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I have.

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 3>I've seen all the armholes all over the world. I'm

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 3>the best tourist ever.

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Have you tried to hug that thumb?

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 3>I have a subscription to Monocle Magazine. I'm just as

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 3>cool as they come.

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 2>And so the final nugget on this one that I

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 2>thought was pretty fun was in six fifty three, these

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>invading Arabs sold, like all the rest of these stories,

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 2>sold the scrap metal, and they sold it to a

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Jewish merchant who apparently used nine hundred camels to take

0:29:59.120 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 2>this stuff away.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Good lord, So how about that?

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 3>So nine hundred camels are like just a few camels

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 3>who had to make nine hundred trips total, You.

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Don't know, said nine hundred camels?

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 2>This is plus I mean, if this is a Jewish

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 2>merchant buying the scrap metal of the Colossus of Rhodes.

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 2>He probably owned nine hundred camels.

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Gotcha, you know, and think of all the poop that

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 3>generated around there. Man, there's a lot of camel poop.

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, let's take one more break. We'll come

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 2>back and we'll finish up with the final wonder of

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>the ancient worlds right after this.

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Alright, all right, chuck, we're at the last one.

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 2>This one's pretty neat too.

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't think we ever said when the Colossus of

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Rods was built, did we?

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Jeez, did we not?

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 3>So it would have been in the fourth No, the

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 3>third century, No, the fourth century BCE is when it

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 3>was built.

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Four.

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 3>So this this is Remember we've been going chronologically through

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 3>all of these, and this is then the youngest of

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 3>the ancient wonders.

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the little baby of the of the group, the

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Lighthouse of Alexandria. And you know, I've got a lighthouse thing, sure, uh.

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>And this one's a pretty great one.

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Was This was notable as one of the angers wonders

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>of the ancient world because it was the only one

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>that actually had a practical use and it wasn't just

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 2>some monument or temple, you know.

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Right, it served a purpose. Who was it that said

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 3>nothing useless can ever truly be beautiful? Or was it

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 3>just a movie line that I remember?

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that was John Cusack.

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what nothing useless can ever be beautiful?

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Man, I wish I could remember what that's from,

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 3>because I'm sure we're going to get a lot of

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 3>email about it. But they said in the movie, they

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 3>say somebody said nothing useless can ever truly be beautiful?

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't buy that.

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's an opinion. There's a well put opinion, which

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 3>is how it ends up in a movie, you know

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. Yeah, so this one, this one did

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 3>have utility and it was kind of beautiful too from

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 3>the artists renderings I've seen. I liked it.

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty pretty sweet lighthouse.

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 3>So the Lighthouse at Alexander is supposedly it's got a

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 3>pretty cool backstory to it. Allegedly, Alexander himself had a

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 3>dream and in the dream they said, Alexander, you need

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 3>to go find the Island of Pharaohs. And he said why.

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 3>They said, it doesn't matter, just do what we say,

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 3>and he woke up in a cold sweat, and he

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 3>like trembling, lit a cigarette and he said, I gotta

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 3>find Pharaohs. And that's how it started.

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty much located off the coast of ancient Egypt.

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 2>He said, you know what, uh, Ptolemy, since we're ptold

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 2>me is such a cool name, I'm gonna choose you

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 2>as one of my generals to go and habit and

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 2>settle this place. Take care of it for me and

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 2>told me, he said, I'm all over it.

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 1>But you know.

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 2>What pharaohs needs though, It needs like an identifier, something

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 2>that you can see from a long way, something symbolic,

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 2>something that literally helps you identify it because it's you know,

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 2>tough navigating around those shores. And Alexander said, well, I

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it was Alexander, in my mind it was.

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 2>He said, how about a lighthouse.

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, supposedly it was either Ptolemy or the Mausean, which

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 3>is the predecessor to the museum, which is basically like

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 3>a brain trust to think tank, an early prototype of

0:33:56.160 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 3>the university where the Library Alexandria was housed. Either Ptolemy

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 3>came up with it or the Mausean came.

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Up with them, that's right, And it's a great idea.

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Put a lighthouse because it serves a function, and it

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 2>can be tall and grand, and the island will then

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 2>be known for this right, and it most certainly was.

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 3>I have to say. One of the things that I

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 3>love about these is how some of them are tied together.

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Like this is the same Ptolemy that the Macedonians were

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 3>fighting and tried to bring Rhads into roads, had been

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 3>conquered by King Musulis, and then was later reconquered by Artemesia.

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 3>Like all of these things kind of fit together, and

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 3>when you start to learn about one, you learn about

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 3>the story of the people who built them and how

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 3>they relate to the stories of people who built other

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 3>amazing wonders of the ancient world. It's just such a

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 3>cool history lesson.

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen the new Noah Bomback movie on Netflix.

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Noy's called The Meerwitz Stories.

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 3>No, I haven't seen it.

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>It's on Netflix. It's funny. It's Adam Sandler, his Adam.

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 2>The guy's not in the movie, but Adam Sandler neighbor.

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 2>He references a lot. His name is Ptolemy, so he

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 2>just keeps saying, well, you know, Ptolemy says this and

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>that without the movie, it's pretty funny and a reminder

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 2>that Adam Sandler should only play these roles.

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he definitely well that or the original Billy Madison

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 3>happy Gilmore role. He was pretty good that too.

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Man, he's so good in these kinds of movies.

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 3>I know these.

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so good.

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 2>And this character is sort of like a grown up

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>version of that punch drunk love character.

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>A little bit to me. Good movie.

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Check it out.

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks, so, uh it told me?

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<v Speaker 2>Which has got a silent p by the way, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a cool name, which is why it's such a

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<v Speaker 2>great name. It's Potolemy me so Potolemy is on the island.

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<v Speaker 2>They get this thing built around two eighty five BC.

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<v Speaker 2>They begin construction. Uh, there's a a dude named Sostrates

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<v Speaker 2>of Nidos. Sure, and they don't know what part he

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<v Speaker 2>played other than the fact that it was important. He

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<v Speaker 2>could have been the architect, could have been the financier,

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.399
<v Speaker 2>could have been both. Yeah, absolutely could have been both.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was definitely important to that project.

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<v Speaker 3>So supposedly this project they actually have a monetary value

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<v Speaker 3>for how much it costs. They said it costs eight

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<v Speaker 3>hundred talents, which is a word for bars of silver,

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<v Speaker 3>and apparently that's about three million dollars today. This is

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<v Speaker 3>not bad for this lighthouse. Three million. Oh yeah, not

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<v Speaker 3>bad at all.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't build half a lighthouse today for that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, not one like this. So apparently it was

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<v Speaker 3>about four hundred and fifty feet tall. And one of

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<v Speaker 3>the reasons they built this too is not just to

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<v Speaker 3>put Pharaohs on the map or Alexandria on the map.

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Alexandria was already like a pretty important city or it

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<v Speaker 3>was becoming in a important city port city, but having

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<v Speaker 3>a lighthouse there just helped navigation, which only helped the

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<v Speaker 3>economy boom. And actually after the lighthouse came into operation,

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 3>the economy did boom as a result of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, and four hundred and fifty feet is really

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<v Speaker 2>really tall.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They said that you could see this thing's light from

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred miles away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I saw the ones that said it was more

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<v Speaker 2>like thirty or forty still, but yeah, that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>high functioning lighthouse.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred miles away. Is more believable than the Temple

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<v Speaker 3>of Zeus being struck by a bolt of lightning after

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 3>it was completed agreed, so you could see this thing

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<v Speaker 3>thirty miles away. We'll even go with twenty miles away. Okay,

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm not even going above that. And the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>you could see that is because atop this four hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty foot structure there was a polished disc of

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 3>some sort they think it was probably bronze, and during

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 3>the day they moved it so it would reflect the

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 3>light of the sun, so you could see it then,

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 3>and then at night they had of fire going all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. And there were structures within this amazingly tall

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<v Speaker 3>structure that were basically what you would call dumb waiters

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 3>or that type of elevator on pulleys where you could

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<v Speaker 3>raise and lower get to bring like firewood or animal

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 3>dried animal dung up to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I don't think we said that.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that makes this so cool to

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<v Speaker 2>me is it's not just a big cylindrical lighthouse like

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<v Speaker 2>most of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You see.

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 2>It is three different levels of three different shapes. So

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 2>you've got your huge rectangular base, then you have the

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 2>second level, which is octagonal, and then that third is cylindrical.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just really cool looking.

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently you could even up to that first level,

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 2>which I mean had to be over one hundred feet

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 2>high in itself. You could bring carts and work horses

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff all the way up to that level because

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>they had a bunch of storage up there, right, this

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty cool, and then dumbwaiters to take stuff to

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<v Speaker 2>the highest hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And.

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<v Speaker 3>They had like those ramps and like kind of circular

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:10.959
<v Speaker 3>or spiral staircases going around it to help to maximize

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.839
<v Speaker 3>the space that you use to get things up. Yeah,

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 3>it was very clever structure for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very cool and you can there are some

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<v Speaker 2>cool renderings of this online as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So this thing was a solid piece of work. Apparently

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 3>it's it survived as tsunami in three sixty five CE.

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, but what got it? Chuck earthquake? Earthquake yep,

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.360
<v Speaker 3>and thirteen oh three, so it's.

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<v Speaker 2>After like dozens of earthquakes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it was. It was built around two to

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 3>eighty BCE. It stood until thirteen hundred thirteen hundred, right, amazing,

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 3>and finally some earthquakes took it down. And the other

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 3>thing that happened they reused some of it as a

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 3>fort which is still around today. But the cool thing

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.240
<v Speaker 3>about it. In nineteen ninety four, there was an underwater

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 3>expedition around Pharos and they found what they're almost positive

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 3>are original blocks from the from the lighthouse itself, original blocks. End.

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I think statues too, Oh wow, yeah, sculptures, I should say.

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did look at some of the underwater pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's just as cool as it gets. Man,

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:24.840
<v Speaker 3>anything that's underwater now that used to be and was

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 3>meant to be above water, so cool, so creepy. I

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 3>was reading this really interesting article about the Andrea Doia,

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, the luxury liner family that I think it's

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 3>sunk in the fifties or early sixties, but it's like

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 3>this incredible reck site that people dive and they call

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 3>it like the underwater Everest because if you're an underwater

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 3>reck diver, that's like, it doesn't get any better than that. Yeah,

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 3>but you know it's also extremely dangerous. I read this

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:57.359
<v Speaker 3>really well written article about I can't remember who wrote it,

0:40:57.400 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 3>but to start reading Andrea d'oria article everybody and you'll

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 3>find the one eventually.

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll do a podcast on it, how about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's do it. And that's it. We did the

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<v Speaker 3>Seven Wonders of the Ancient World.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally, huh, that's the last One's that's it, everybody, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the big one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a Chevy Chase quote, is it? Yeah? From Christmas

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Vacation when he reveals the pool. Oh right, it's so

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 3>awkward the way he says it.

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>It's perfect.

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 3>That's it. That's a big one. Well, at any rate,

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Christmas is coming gone, Chuck. But this is the last

0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 3>episode that we're going to release this year, So I

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 3>think we should wish everybody a happy New Year. Yeah,

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Happy New Year everybody. Thanks for sticking with us this

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:42.839
<v Speaker 3>twenty seventeen, and we'll see you in twenty eighteen. On

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.839
<v Speaker 3>a personal note, happy happy birthday to my sweet wife.

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 3>You me, And we'll see you guys next.

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<v Speaker 1>Year, right, I sure hope. So.

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<v Speaker 3>So in the meantime, it's time for listener mail.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, We're going to finish out this two part

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<v Speaker 2>with a single listener mail about.

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<v Speaker 1>Bath salts.

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<v Speaker 3>Appropriately that's why not.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, guys, I'm not wanting to take hard drugs often,

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<v Speaker 2>but my friend and I were going to an EDM

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 2>festival and decided to take what we believed was molly.

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 2>The drugs were crystalline, and we took them orally yuck.

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 2>The experience did not go as planned. A few days later,

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<v Speaker 2>we used a drug testing kit on the remaining crystals

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 2>and find out dunt dun da bath salts. That's scary.

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll take that. That looks like a drug.

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:35.919
<v Speaker 3>Sure it's crystalline.

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Unlike any other party drug that might make you feel

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<v Speaker 2>ready to dance, this stuff gave my friend and I

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<v Speaker 2>this sensation that our feet were stuck to the ground

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 2>by a magnetic force and lifting them was almost impossible.

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 2>This made dancing very difficult, as all we could do

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<v Speaker 2>was awkwardly move around with the top.

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Half of our bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>Additionally, we felt super paranoid that everyone around us was

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 2>watching us and judging and laughing at our pitiful attempts

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<v Speaker 2>to dance. By the way, Anonymous, no one noticed you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can go ahead and tell you.

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 2>That right now, right it was impossible to enjoy the

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 2>music with my mind racing these unpleasant thoughts, and the

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 2>feeling lasted for the full day. After the disappointing day,

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:13.919
<v Speaker 2>we headed back to the apartment ready to get some rest.

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<v Speaker 2>Tackle the next day drug free but No, the Basalts

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:20.399
<v Speaker 2>would not let us sleep, try as we might. All

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.360
<v Speaker 2>night long, we lay there wide awake, part of the

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:26.359
<v Speaker 2>song turned down for what by DJ Snake layed over

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 2>and over in my mind for eight hours straight.

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<v Speaker 1>This sounds really bad, it does.

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 2>My eyes were closed and it felt as though I

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:35.320
<v Speaker 2>was watching a show of squiggly neon colored shapes pulsating

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 2>in rhythm to the incessant music in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow we managed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get to the festival the next day, but we felt

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<v Speaker 2>like zombies and we were not even at the cannibalism

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:43.760
<v Speaker 2>stage yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what that even means.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know the whole face eating bath Salt's ledgend

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh gotcha. She's like, we weren't even there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, still was terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't even get the pleasure of eating someone's face, right,

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 2>so just from experience all well. Second, when Josh and

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Chuck said and urged steer clear, that is from Anonymous.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks a lot, Anonymous, appreciate that those the bore you

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<v Speaker 3>know or No, that's one to grow on.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one to grow on.

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