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Speaker 1: Chuck here.

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Speaker 2: I hope everyone's doing well on this lovely Saturday. I

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Speaker 2: gotta say, if you've been sitting around for two weeks

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Speaker 2: wondering what the other seven Wonders of the Ancient World are, well,

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Speaker 2: that is some serious patients, my friends. So here it

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Speaker 2: is Part two, continuing from two weeks ago, How the

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Speaker 2: Seven Wonders of the Ancient World work. Welcome to Stuff

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Speaker 2: You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and

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Speaker 3: there's Charles w O'Bryant, and there's guest producer Noel again.

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Speaker 3: And that makes this Stuff you Should Know Part two.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever see hot Shots Part two? The sequel?

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Speaker 2: No, you know, I didn't see a lot of those

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Speaker 2: movies at all, except for the airplane movies and the

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Speaker 2: naked gun movies.

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Speaker 3: The hot Shots movies were worth seeing.

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Speaker 2: Did not see those. Did not see any of the

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Speaker 2: scary movies.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the scary movies? You haven't seen those?

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Speaker 1: Nope?

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Speaker 3: All of them are good, Like every single one of

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Speaker 3: those are good.

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I did record a movie crush yesterday with uh for the.

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Speaker 2: Movie Scream though, Oh yeah, with who Nate Bargatzi uh

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Speaker 2: huh comedian. Sure, so we It was interesting that I

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Speaker 2: had to do Scream research in like that movie changed

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Speaker 2: like horror movies were on their last legs.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they were.

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Speaker 2: Not to say that something else might not have come along,

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Speaker 2: But it was Scream that like revitalized a genre.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of a watershed movie.

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Speaker 3: Did we talk about that in the horror movies that

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Speaker 3: changed the the genre? I'm pretty sure we had to.

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Speaker 1: Boy, if we didn't, we missed out.

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Speaker 3: Well. If we didn't, we probably just said and obviously

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Speaker 3: Scream we don't even need to mention that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it launched the Scream franchise. It launched the scary

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Speaker 2: movie franchise in a way m hm oh yeah, and

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Speaker 2: relaunched a genre.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so scary movies we're seeing hot shots is worth.

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Speaker 1: Seeing naked guns were seeing.

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Speaker 3: Of course, although I would put either one of the

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Speaker 3: hot shots up against the third naked gun any day

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Speaker 3: of the week. That's that's that's my.

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Speaker 1: Bookie over the third naked gun. Yeah, okay, that's fair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then don't get me started on what was

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Speaker 3: it like the god Son? But what the god Son?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that is.

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Speaker 3: It was like a Godfather spoof that Leslie Nielsen was

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Speaker 3: in with Dom de Luise. I haven't even seen five

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is. And you stump me,

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Speaker 2: Oh good, thank you. Well, that's a good start to

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Speaker 2: this episode. Do you think you're welcome?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Uh so, Chuck, Yes, we're moving on. We've

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Speaker 3: already talked about the Great Pyramids at Cufu, we talked

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Speaker 3: about the Hanging Gardens of Babylon and the Temple of

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Speaker 3: Artemis at afisis right, all three of them top top notch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't know what we're talking about now,

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Speaker 2: and this is your first episode of stuff, you should know. Ever,

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Speaker 2: this is the second of a two part episode.

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Speaker 1: There you go on the.

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Speaker 2: Seven Ancient Seven Wonders the Ancient World, and here's part.

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Speaker 3: Two, right, and we're going to start with the statue

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: To say it like that, there's no other way to

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Speaker 2: That's how Well, who's the guy's name, the the boxing guy.

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Speaker 3: That guy I don't know his name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he used to stand at the statue of Zeus

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Speaker 2: and say that on an hourly basis.

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Speaker 3: Yep, it's pretty pretty amazing stuff.

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Speaker 2: So this one is one of my favorites, but not

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Speaker 3: Okay, And also I should warn you that this article

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Speaker 1: Oh the how tall it was?

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Speaker 1: All right? What is it? For real?

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Speaker 3: It was sixty eight feet tall.

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Speaker 1: How did they get it that wrong?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I just don't know, it's staggering. It's

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't even say it was somewhere between sixty

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Speaker 3: Everything else is right about it though. Okay, so it

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Speaker 3: if you were driving through Dunwoodie he saw a sixty

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Speaker 2: Yes, so the temple's frail impressive, But inside we're talking

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Speaker 2: about the statue mainly the Greek artists. Phidias was commissioned,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, there's only a few of them

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Speaker 3: Right, and he used some really weird materials. Like so

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Speaker 3: that was because he was building a statue to Zeus, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and ivory was definitely something that people would travel

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Speaker 2: Zus is sitting down in this statue, and he's sitting

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Speaker 1: Zeus is not chilling. He's sitting up ready for action.

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Speaker 2: Kind of The statue itself was about fifty feet high,

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Speaker 3: And one of the things they said about it was

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Speaker 1: He was sitting down at fifty feet right, totally would have.

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Speaker 3: Right, he would have just been like Sue smash. So

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Speaker 3: he's holding in one hand a statue Nike, So it's

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Speaker 3: on the other hand he's holding a scepter, which is

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Speaker 3: we actually don't know exactly what they looked like. Some

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Speaker 2: The remarkable thing about this one is, apparently, was the

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Speaker 3: you're wrong. So there were a couple of issues with

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Speaker 3: But one of the things about the statue was it

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Speaker 3: was made of gold and ivory, but those things were

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Speaker 3: kind of like it's pretty slack phidious. Maybe you should

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Speaker 3: have stuck with the marble. Maybe, But the palace in

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Speaker 3: Honest, Yeah, he phoned this one in.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna contemplate that, and we'll be back

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Speaker 3: Okay, chuck, here's my second favorite.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear it.

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Speaker 3: This is in your favorite Huh Are you sure you

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Speaker 1: I do. We're not there yet.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well this is my second favorite, the

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Speaker 3: mausoleum at Halikar Nassas.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you don't like this one?

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Speaker 3: That was?

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Speaker 1: All right? Masoleums, I don't know. You see one, you

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Speaker 3: Well, this is the original one. Like the word mausoleum

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought I thought you were like an etymology

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Speaker 2: There's something about mausoleums that bugged.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, we'll just stop right here.

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Speaker 2: Then, if you're King Masulis, you deserve to to have

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Speaker 3: I would say that, especially if you're married to your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a little weird.

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Speaker 2: Really really was in love with her brother.

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Speaker 3: And he was from what I understand, he seemed like

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Speaker 3: Artemisia was so broken up by it. She said, all right, stop,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so like he architected the whole thing. And then

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Speaker 1: That one's easy.

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Speaker 2: That one is easy, and this one has often been

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Speaker 2: And not only that, but I think for years afterward

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Speaker 3: For this episode and the last one, I went to

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: They were very helpful in researching this. And one of

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Speaker 1: Well, that we can do whatever we want now, guys.

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Speaker 3: Right, And they did so, they went ahead and they

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Speaker 2: The structure yourself, was about one hundred and forty feet tall.

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Speaker 2: The base was about one hundred feet twenty four steps tall.

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Speaker 1: It's always cool.

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Speaker 3: Around the outside of the second the second tier where

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, what else?

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Speaker 2: Pliny the Elder said, this thing is four hundred and

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Speaker 2: It was a big structure, very impressive. I didn't get

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not sure. The only place I saw that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I know that there were different people

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Speaker 1: Like a big mess, and it did not look like

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Speaker 3: No, it looked pretty neat and tidy. Right, Yeah, So

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Speaker 3: But it's also like just a place you would go,

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Speaker 3: afternoon in the city of hell canisis Helicarnassis, Right, One

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Speaker 2: But like all these other ones, earthquakes would eventually take

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Speaker 2: John of Malta said hey, let's take all this scrap

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a city as Helicarnassis fell to ruin. Another city

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Speaker 3: You would go to Bodrum today to view the ruins

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Speaker 1: Or form totally. That's very cool.

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Speaker 3: But that earthquake that got it in the fourteen hundreds,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So there are three big things that keep

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: There is earthquakes that keep happening. There's people using scraps

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Speaker 2: Amazing, I'm telling you that's why it's my second favorite. Well,

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Speaker 2: the Colossus of Rhodes.

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Speaker 3: It's a good way to say it.

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Speaker 2: This was ancient Greece, and this one was the granddaddy

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Speaker 2: of Roads said, hey, we're not really, we don't want

445
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: to get involved in all that. We kind of like

446
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 2: it here on the island, living our peaceful lifestyle here.

447
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 3: Well. Plus, if they was in anybody they were allied with,

448
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 3: it was Ttolemy. Yeah, yeah, but they wanted to stay

449
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 3: out of any wars.

450
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: They just weren't into it, right, So they rebuffed the

451
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: Macedonians and they left, but they left behind a bunch

452
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 2: of supplies and equipment.

453
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why they did that actually.

454
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: So this article is so bizarre.

455
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: Man.

456
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 3: The Macedonians besieged roads for over a year, and they

457
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 3: had these huge war machines that were made of like

458
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: bronze and wood and metal, and they would pull these

459
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 3: huge machines up to the city walls and like they

460
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 3: had catapults on top, and they were trying to crush

461
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 3: the city for a year. And when the Roodians finally

462
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 3: overcame the Macedonians, they were like, well, we're just leaving

463
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 3: the stuff behind. It's too big to move. It didn't

464
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 3: work anyway, so we'll leave it. Yeah, that's why they

465
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 3: left it. This article puts it in a really weird way.

466
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Yeah.

467
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: So they ended up using like selling away that stuff

468
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 2: right to make the money to build in part the statue.

469
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they reused some of it directly for the statue.

470
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: Like that huge thing that they used to besiege the

471
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 3: city they pulled up to the walls, they actually used

472
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: that as scaffolding to build the statue with. Heck, yeah, yeah,

473
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: it's making plowshers out of uh, I don't know. Guns.

474
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: So they used the sculptor Charros of Lindos, and he said,

475
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: I got this one under control, and he used all

476
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: these different materials iron, bronze, stone, and this one I'll

477
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: have wrapped up, oh in about twelve years, which they said,

478
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: that's about right.

479
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not bad for what they did here.

480
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this was one hundred and ten feet tall.

481
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it had a skeleton of iron, and inside the

482
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 3: skeleton for structure, it had huge stone columns running through it.

483
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

484
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: And yeah, it was like the actual statue itself was

485
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 3: about as big as the Statue of Liberty is today

486
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: and followed like a pretty similar structure, but like a

487
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: thousand or so years before, a couple thousand years before.

488
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, people think from written accounts that it was holding

489
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: a torch like Lady Liberty does, and that the face

490
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 2: was modeled after Alexander the Great. Some say, and here's

491
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 2: where it gets interesting to me is if you look

492
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: up pictures of this thing, you will likely see it

493
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 2: standing a straddle the entrance to the harbor, so literally

494
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 2: standing there like kind of with his legs spread, and

495
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: you would have to sail a ship between his legs to.

496
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: Get into the harbor.

497
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: You shouldn't look up, Yeah, don't look because the detail

498
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: was really amazing.

499
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: Very amazing, and one hundred and ten feet high, like

500
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 2: you know what you're going to be staring at. So

501
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: there are accounts and there are plenty of illustrations and

502
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: other things that support this, and it looks trust me,

503
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: if you look it up, it looks very cool. Like

504
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: you know, they into they were into making things this tall,

505
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: just because it was so mind blowing.

506
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 3: But also they were thanking their patron god Helios for

507
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: spading them from having to go to war, which is

508
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 3: pretty cool. I that's one of the reasons I like

509
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: this one is they were saying, like, you know what,

510
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: we stayed out of war, we managed to remain at peace.

511
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: We're going to build a monument to our god who

512
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: we assume helped us out.

513
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

514
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: But when they did these things, like with most of these,

515
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: I love that they were just like, well, you know,

516
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: twenty foot high statue will be great.

517
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: That's impressive.

518
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: Like they would try and build things as large as

519
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: humanly literally possible engineering wise at the time.

520
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: I see your point. Yeah, that is pretty neat.

521
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 2: So when you look at pictures of this straddling the harbor,

522
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: it's just like it's enormous. It's huge, Unfortunately, that's probably

523
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: not what he how he stood, right. That's the downer

524
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: here is that they didn't really have the the materials

525
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: or the knowledge or the skill to do something like that.

526
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 2: Like the reason that statues back then were basically straight

527
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: up and down is because that you needed that those

528
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: legs to support the rest of the statue.

529
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were atop a pedestal that could hold

530
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 3: the weight of the statue above it.

531
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

532
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: They would Also if each foot was on either side

533
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 3: of the harbor, that's usually not the strongest solid ground

534
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: you can find, no, no way, So they wouldn't have

535
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: had any means of reinforcing the ground beneath it, So

536
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: it would have just sunk or fallen right over.

537
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

538
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 3: And plus the other thing too, Chuck, was that it

539
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: would have closed the harbor down, and they relied on

540
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: the harbor for their economy.

541
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's probably unlikely that it looked as cool

542
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: as it looks in pictures. And what happened to this

543
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: one fifty three years later?

544
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: Yes, earthquake? Yep, fifty three years that is so quick.

545
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that didn't last long at all.

546
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 3: No, So the thing fell and they think that it

547
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 3: probably was located closer to the center of town. Yeah,

548
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: somewhere inland. But that when it fell, it crushed a

549
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: bunch of people's houses and businesses, and some of it

550
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: probably fell into the harbor itself.

551
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: That's right.

552
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: And this one was notable because I think because it

553
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: was so young when it fell. It's still it's not

554
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: like they were like, oh, let's get rid of this thing.

555
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 2: They let it lay there as a tourist attraction in

556
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: its prone state for many, many years, and people would

557
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: come far and wide to go visit the fallen statue.

558
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, for almost a thousand years. It's crazy. Yeah, it

559
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: still stated a tourist attraction. Like apparently the cool thing

560
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: to do was to try to put your arms around

561
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: the thumb.

562
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thumb was bigger than most statues.

563
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: Right, Like people couldn't get their arms, they couldn't touch

564
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: their hands around the thumb.

565
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: Amazing.

566
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: And apparently also the arms fell off pretty They may

567
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: have even fallen off first during the earthquake. But did

568
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: you say it broke off at a the knees, just

569
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: below the knees, no, so those probably stayed for a while.

570
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: But the they like.

571
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: From the knee down, yeah, yeah.

572
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure, which looks a little weird, Like that picture

573
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: of the person who suffered spontaneous combustion all that was

574
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: left their one leg, I'll bet it looked kind of

575
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: like that. But the stuff that was on the ground,

576
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: like you could see into like the armholes, and apparently

577
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: even that was just his breath ticking cavern. It was

578
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: just such a massive structure.

579
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: They're like, have you seen in those armholes?

580
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: Yes?

581
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: I have.

582
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: I've seen all the armholes all over the world. I'm

583
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 3: the best tourist ever.

584
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: Have you tried to hug that thumb?

585
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: I have a subscription to Monocle Magazine. I'm just as

586
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: cool as they come.

587
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: And so the final nugget on this one that I

588
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: thought was pretty fun was in six fifty three, these

589
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: invading Arabs sold, like all the rest of these stories,

590
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: sold the scrap metal, and they sold it to a

591
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: Jewish merchant who apparently used nine hundred camels to take

592
00:29:59,120 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: this stuff away.

593
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: Good lord, So how about that?

594
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: So nine hundred camels are like just a few camels

595
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: who had to make nine hundred trips total, You.

596
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: Don't know, said nine hundred camels?

597
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: This is plus I mean, if this is a Jewish

598
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: merchant buying the scrap metal of the Colossus of Rhodes.

599
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: He probably owned nine hundred camels.

600
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: Gotcha, you know, and think of all the poop that

601
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: generated around there. Man, there's a lot of camel poop.

602
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's take one more break. We'll come

603
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: back and we'll finish up with the final wonder of

604
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: the ancient worlds right after this.

605
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: Alright, all right, chuck, we're at the last one.

606
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: This one's pretty neat too.

607
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: I don't think we ever said when the Colossus of

608
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: Rods was built, did we?

609
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: Oh? Jeez, did we not?

610
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: So it would have been in the fourth No, the

611
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: third century, No, the fourth century BCE is when it

612
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: was built.

613
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: Four.

614
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: So this this is Remember we've been going chronologically through

615
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: all of these, and this is then the youngest of

616
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: the ancient wonders.

617
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the little baby of the of the group, the

618
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: Lighthouse of Alexandria. And you know, I've got a lighthouse thing, sure, uh.

619
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: And this one's a pretty great one.

620
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: Was This was notable as one of the angers wonders

621
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: of the ancient world because it was the only one

622
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: that actually had a practical use and it wasn't just

623
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: some monument or temple, you know.

624
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: Right, it served a purpose. Who was it that said

625
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: nothing useless can ever truly be beautiful? Or was it

626
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: just a movie line that I remember?

627
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: I think that was John Cusack.

628
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: Okay, what nothing useless can ever be beautiful?

629
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, I wish I could remember what that's from,

630
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: because I'm sure we're going to get a lot of

631
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: email about it. But they said in the movie, they

632
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: say somebody said nothing useless can ever truly be beautiful?

633
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't buy that.

634
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an opinion. There's a well put opinion, which

635
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: is how it ends up in a movie, you know

636
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Yeah, so this one, this one did

637
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: have utility and it was kind of beautiful too from

638
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: the artists renderings I've seen. I liked it.

639
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty pretty sweet lighthouse.

640
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: So the Lighthouse at Alexander is supposedly it's got a

641
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: pretty cool backstory to it. Allegedly, Alexander himself had a

642
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: dream and in the dream they said, Alexander, you need

643
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: to go find the Island of Pharaohs. And he said why.

644
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: They said, it doesn't matter, just do what we say,

645
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: and he woke up in a cold sweat, and he

646
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: like trembling, lit a cigarette and he said, I gotta

647
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 3: find Pharaohs. And that's how it started.

648
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much located off the coast of ancient Egypt.

649
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: He said, you know what, uh, Ptolemy, since we're ptold

650
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: me is such a cool name, I'm gonna choose you

651
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: as one of my generals to go and habit and

652
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: settle this place. Take care of it for me and

653
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: told me, he said, I'm all over it.

654
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: But you know.

655
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: What pharaohs needs though, It needs like an identifier, something

656
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: that you can see from a long way, something symbolic,

657
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: something that literally helps you identify it because it's you know,

658
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: tough navigating around those shores. And Alexander said, well, I

659
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: don't know if it was Alexander, in my mind it was.

660
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: He said, how about a lighthouse.

661
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: Well, supposedly it was either Ptolemy or the Mausean, which

662
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: is the predecessor to the museum, which is basically like

663
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: a brain trust to think tank, an early prototype of

664
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: the university where the Library Alexandria was housed. Either Ptolemy

665
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: came up with it or the Mausean came.

666
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: Up with them, that's right, And it's a great idea.

667
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: Put a lighthouse because it serves a function, and it

668
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: can be tall and grand, and the island will then

669
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: be known for this right, and it most certainly was.

670
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: I have to say. One of the things that I

671
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: love about these is how some of them are tied together.

672
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: Like this is the same Ptolemy that the Macedonians were

673
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: fighting and tried to bring Rhads into roads, had been

674
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: conquered by King Musulis, and then was later reconquered by Artemesia.

675
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: Like all of these things kind of fit together, and

676
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: when you start to learn about one, you learn about

677
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: the story of the people who built them and how

678
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: they relate to the stories of people who built other

679
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: amazing wonders of the ancient world. It's just such a

680
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: cool history lesson.

681
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: Have you seen the new Noah Bomback movie on Netflix.

682
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: Noy's called The Meerwitz Stories.

683
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: No, I haven't seen it.

684
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: It's on Netflix. It's funny. It's Adam Sandler, his Adam.

685
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: The guy's not in the movie, but Adam Sandler neighbor.

686
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: He references a lot. His name is Ptolemy, so he

687
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: just keeps saying, well, you know, Ptolemy says this and

688
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: that without the movie, it's pretty funny and a reminder

689
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: that Adam Sandler should only play these roles.

690
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely well that or the original Billy Madison

691
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: happy Gilmore role. He was pretty good that too.

692
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: Man, he's so good in these kinds of movies.

693
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 3: I know these.

694
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good.

695
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: And this character is sort of like a grown up

696
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: version of that punch drunk love character.

697
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: A little bit to me. Good movie.

698
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: Check it out.

699
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, so, uh it told me?

700
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: Which has got a silent p by the way, Yeah,

701
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: it's a cool name, which is why it's such a

702
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: great name. It's Potolemy me so Potolemy is on the island.

703
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: They get this thing built around two eighty five BC.

704
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: They begin construction. Uh, there's a a dude named Sostrates

705
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: of Nidos. Sure, and they don't know what part he

706
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: played other than the fact that it was important. He

707
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: could have been the architect, could have been the financier,

708
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 2: could have been both. Yeah, absolutely could have been both.

709
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: But he was definitely important to that project.

710
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: So supposedly this project they actually have a monetary value

711
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: for how much it costs. They said it costs eight

712
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: hundred talents, which is a word for bars of silver,

713
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: and apparently that's about three million dollars today. This is

714
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: not bad for this lighthouse. Three million. Oh yeah, not

715
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: bad at all.

716
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: You couldn't build half a lighthouse today for that.

717
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: No, no, not one like this. So apparently it was

718
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: about four hundred and fifty feet tall. And one of

719
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: the reasons they built this too is not just to

720
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: put Pharaohs on the map or Alexandria on the map.

721
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: Alexandria was already like a pretty important city or it

722
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 3: was becoming in a important city port city, but having

723
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: a lighthouse there just helped navigation, which only helped the

724
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: economy boom. And actually after the lighthouse came into operation,

725
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: the economy did boom as a result of that.

726
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, and four hundred and fifty feet is really

727
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: really tall.

728
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

729
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: They said that you could see this thing's light from

730
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: one hundred miles away.

731
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw the ones that said it was more

732
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: like thirty or forty still, but yeah, that's a pretty

733
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: high functioning lighthouse.

734
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: One hundred miles away. Is more believable than the Temple

735
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: of Zeus being struck by a bolt of lightning after

736
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: it was completed agreed, so you could see this thing

737
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 3: thirty miles away. We'll even go with twenty miles away. Okay,

738
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: I'm not even going above that. And the reason why

739
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: you could see that is because atop this four hundred

740
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 3: and fifty foot structure there was a polished disc of

741
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: some sort they think it was probably bronze, and during

742
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: the day they moved it so it would reflect the

743
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: light of the sun, so you could see it then,

744
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: and then at night they had of fire going all

745
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 3: the time. And there were structures within this amazingly tall

746
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: structure that were basically what you would call dumb waiters

747
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: or that type of elevator on pulleys where you could

748
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 3: raise and lower get to bring like firewood or animal

749
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: dried animal dung up to it.

750
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think we said that.

751
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: One of the things that makes this so cool to

752
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: me is it's not just a big cylindrical lighthouse like

753
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: most of them.

754
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: You see.

755
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: It is three different levels of three different shapes. So

756
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: you've got your huge rectangular base, then you have the

757
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: second level, which is octagonal, and then that third is cylindrical.

758
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: So it's just really cool looking.

759
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: And apparently you could even up to that first level,

760
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 2: which I mean had to be over one hundred feet

761
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 2: high in itself. You could bring carts and work horses

762
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: and stuff all the way up to that level because

763
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: they had a bunch of storage up there, right, this

764
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: is pretty cool, and then dumbwaiters to take stuff to

765
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: the highest hours.

766
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: Right, And.

767
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: They had like those ramps and like kind of circular

768
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 3: or spiral staircases going around it to help to maximize

769
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 3: the space that you use to get things up. Yeah,

770
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 3: it was very clever structure for sure.

771
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very cool and you can there are some

772
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: cool renderings of this online as well.

773
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: So this thing was a solid piece of work. Apparently

774
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: it's it survived as tsunami in three sixty five CE.

775
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 3: Oh wow, but what got it? Chuck earthquake? Earthquake yep,

776
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: and thirteen oh three, so it's.

777
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: After like dozens of earthquakes.

778
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was. It was built around two to

779
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 3: eighty BCE. It stood until thirteen hundred thirteen hundred, right, amazing,

780
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: and finally some earthquakes took it down. And the other

781
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: thing that happened they reused some of it as a

782
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: fort which is still around today. But the cool thing

783
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 3: about it. In nineteen ninety four, there was an underwater

784
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: expedition around Pharos and they found what they're almost positive

785
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 3: are original blocks from the from the lighthouse itself, original blocks. End.

786
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: I think statues too, Oh wow, yeah, sculptures, I should say.

787
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did look at some of the underwater pictures.

788
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool.

789
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's just as cool as it gets. Man,

790
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: anything that's underwater now that used to be and was

791
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 3: meant to be above water, so cool, so creepy. I

792
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: was reading this really interesting article about the Andrea Doia,

793
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: you know, the luxury liner family that I think it's

794
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: sunk in the fifties or early sixties, but it's like

795
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: this incredible reck site that people dive and they call

796
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: it like the underwater Everest because if you're an underwater

797
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: reck diver, that's like, it doesn't get any better than that. Yeah,

798
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: but you know it's also extremely dangerous. I read this

799
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 3: really well written article about I can't remember who wrote it,

800
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: but to start reading Andrea d'oria article everybody and you'll

801
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: find the one eventually.

802
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: Well, we'll do a podcast on it, how about that.

803
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it. And that's it. We did the

804
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: Seven Wonders of the Ancient World.

805
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 2: Finally, huh, that's the last One's that's it, everybody, that's

806
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: the big one.

807
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: That's a Chevy Chase quote, is it? Yeah? From Christmas

808
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: Vacation when he reveals the pool. Oh right, it's so

809
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: awkward the way he says it.

810
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: It's perfect.

811
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 3: That's it. That's a big one. Well, at any rate,

812
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: Christmas is coming gone, Chuck. But this is the last

813
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: episode that we're going to release this year, So I

814
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: think we should wish everybody a happy New Year. Yeah,

815
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: Happy New Year everybody. Thanks for sticking with us this

816
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, and we'll see you in twenty eighteen. On

817
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 3: a personal note, happy happy birthday to my sweet wife.

818
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: You me, And we'll see you guys next.

819
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: Year, right, I sure hope. So.

820
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: So in the meantime, it's time for listener mail.

821
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: That's right, We're going to finish out this two part

822
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: with a single listener mail about.

823
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: Bath salts.

824
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: Appropriately that's why not.

825
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, I'm not wanting to take hard drugs often,

826
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 2: but my friend and I were going to an EDM

827
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: festival and decided to take what we believed was molly.

828
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: The drugs were crystalline, and we took them orally yuck.

829
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: The experience did not go as planned. A few days later,

830
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: we used a drug testing kit on the remaining crystals

831
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: and find out dunt dun da bath salts. That's scary.

832
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: I'll take that. That looks like a drug.

833
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 3: Sure it's crystalline.

834
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure.

835
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: Unlike any other party drug that might make you feel

836
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: ready to dance, this stuff gave my friend and I

837
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: this sensation that our feet were stuck to the ground

838
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: by a magnetic force and lifting them was almost impossible.

839
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: This made dancing very difficult, as all we could do

840
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: was awkwardly move around with the top.

841
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: Half of our bodies.

842
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: Additionally, we felt super paranoid that everyone around us was

843
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: watching us and judging and laughing at our pitiful attempts

844
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: to dance. By the way, Anonymous, no one noticed you.

845
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: I can go ahead and tell you.

846
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: That right now, right it was impossible to enjoy the

847
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: music with my mind racing these unpleasant thoughts, and the

848
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: feeling lasted for the full day. After the disappointing day,

849
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 2: we headed back to the apartment ready to get some rest.

850
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: Tackle the next day drug free but No, the Basalts

851
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 2: would not let us sleep, try as we might. All

852
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: night long, we lay there wide awake, part of the

853
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 2: song turned down for what by DJ Snake layed over

854
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: and over in my mind for eight hours straight.

855
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: This sounds really bad, it does.

856
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: My eyes were closed and it felt as though I

857
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: was watching a show of squiggly neon colored shapes pulsating

858
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: in rhythm to the incessant music in my mind.

859
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: Somehow we managed to.

860
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: Get to the festival the next day, but we felt

861
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: like zombies and we were not even at the cannibalism

862
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 2: stage yet.

863
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that even means.

864
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: Well, you know the whole face eating bath Salt's ledgend

865
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: Oh gotcha. She's like, we weren't even there yet.

866
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, still was terrible.

867
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 2: She didn't even get the pleasure of eating someone's face, right,

868
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: so just from experience all well. Second, when Josh and

869
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: Chuck said and urged steer clear, that is from Anonymous.

870
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, Anonymous, appreciate that those the bore you

871
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: know or No, that's one to grow on.

872
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: That's one to grow on.

873
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: If you want to send us one to grow on,

874
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: hit us up. You can send us an email to

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00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,319
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Speaker 3: us at our home on the web but Stuff you

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00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,080
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00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,120
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