WEBVTT - WHAT?!  Finding Nancy Guthrie Could Take Years, Sheriff Now Says 

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<v Speaker 1>Folks.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Sunday, February fifteenth, and two weeks ago today,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four year old Nancy Guthrie was reported missing, and

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<v Speaker 2>after it first telling us how urgent the search was,

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<v Speaker 2>the sheriff is now saying it could take years to

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<v Speaker 2>crack this case. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Robes.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a lot of developments, necessarily concrete developments in this case.

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<v Speaker 2>But this comment I found odd, surprising and disturbing.

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<v Speaker 3>What is going on with all of those resources and

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<v Speaker 3>the intense search that is going on right now and

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<v Speaker 3>the hope that still remains for the Guthrie family to

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<v Speaker 3>make a public statement like that doesn't seem helpful or

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just confused why he would even go there. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he's trying to temper expectations. Maybe he's trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>reporters off his back saying this could take a while.

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<v Speaker 3>But that is a bold and just discouraging statement to

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<v Speaker 3>say the least.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, maybe it was this, maybe it was that.

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<v Speaker 2>Could it also maybe be that he had just an

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<v Speaker 2>honest moment and they have nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I guess that is the case, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I just you're not used to seeing investigators tip their

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<v Speaker 3>hand like that, or police say something like that, especially

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<v Speaker 3>when they know there's an expectant family holding their breath,

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<v Speaker 3>praying every night, wishing and hoping for the best, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe privately you could temper their expectations to publicly say that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's just a head scratcher for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's put this in the full context of what

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<v Speaker 2>he said, and we'll get We're about to give you

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<v Speaker 2>the exact quote from Pima County Sheriff Nanol's out there

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<v Speaker 2>who everybody's become familiar with at this point. With his

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<v Speaker 2>case the Robes, he hasn't been doing well well. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know when the last official press briefing was,

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<v Speaker 2>but he has from time to time come out and

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<v Speaker 2>done interviews. Certainly keeps the local affiliates there updated, but

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<v Speaker 2>he hasn't been doing a lot of press. But he

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<v Speaker 2>did around here over the past couple of days after

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<v Speaker 2>there have been some developments in Robes. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>outlets he did sit down with and give comments to

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<v Speaker 2>was The New York Times. Not a lot of information

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<v Speaker 2>in there, necessarily, but Robes. This jumped off the screen

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<v Speaker 2>to me and it happened to be. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was the last line they put in the story.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's interesting. That wasn't even their headline.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's everybody else's.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this isn't that funny. So the comment is this,

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<v Speaker 3>he said to the New York Times, the sheriff. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it's an hour from now, maybe it's weeks or months

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<v Speaker 3>or years from now, but we won't quit. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to find Nancy. We're going to find this guy. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was oddly in a positive statement that he dropped

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<v Speaker 3>this little bit of information that you know, wasn't something

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<v Speaker 3>that any of us had heard before. As you pointed

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<v Speaker 3>out at the top of this, every single comment we've

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<v Speaker 3>heard from the sheriff and from investigators has been that

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<v Speaker 3>time is not on their side, that this is an

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<v Speaker 3>urgent search. There is an elderly woman who needs her medication,

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<v Speaker 3>family members desperate defined her, and there have been developments.

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<v Speaker 3>DNA has been found that does not match Nancy Guthrie

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<v Speaker 3>or any of her family or close friends. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>a very you would think positive development. They have been

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<v Speaker 3>starting to detain people and question people, seemingly getting at

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<v Speaker 3>least some sort of tip that leads them in a direction,

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<v Speaker 3>which means there could be others. They have to sip

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<v Speaker 3>through tens of thousands of tips and they need the

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<v Speaker 3>one that actually points them in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 2>And if so, I thought it was interesting as well.

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<v Speaker 2>He used the word exhausting. But we've talked about it

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<v Speaker 2>here ropes. You hear right after they released that front

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<v Speaker 2>door camera video, they have a suspect they're looking at right,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a ski mask over there. Tips start flooding

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<v Speaker 2>in after that, and they detained a guy and we

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<v Speaker 2>were holding our breath and then there was nothing and

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<v Speaker 2>the guy was released. And it happens to be nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to it. Those ups and downs we're experiencing. He spoke

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<v Speaker 2>on the experience in the menzuel and called them exhausting,

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<v Speaker 2>that these ups and downs, and that guy this was

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<v Speaker 2>another honest moment. He said, Yeah, that door dash guy,

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<v Speaker 2>that first guy we detained. We thought that was it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he said, this has to be the evidence. Everything's there.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you talk to people, you learn, you do your

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<v Speaker 3>search anything maybe not. Yeah, I mean, look, this is

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<v Speaker 3>it's interesting. When you have a local sheriff, Pima County sheriff,

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<v Speaker 3>you probably wouldn't expect that he has a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>experience dealing with a case on this level, and certainly

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<v Speaker 3>not dealing with press at this level. At this level, God, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>he's he's probably just being himself, being the local sheriff

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<v Speaker 3>that he's always been. It doesn't always necessarily translate when

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<v Speaker 3>you have an international story where you have a network

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<v Speaker 3>news anchor's mother vanish and in such a bizarre, unexplicable

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<v Speaker 3>way that he really he's had nothing in his career.

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<v Speaker 3>I would imagine that would have prepared him to put

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<v Speaker 3>him into spot life like this. So perhaps he says

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<v Speaker 3>things and does things that may be members of the press,

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<v Speaker 3>and certainly people who are reading these articles are thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>why did he just say that? What did he just say?

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<v Speaker 3>But you have to take him at his word. He's

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<v Speaker 3>being honest. He's not putting on. He's not media trained,

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<v Speaker 3>so to speak, where he knows the slick and smooth

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<v Speaker 3>non answer to give. He's not a politician. So in

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<v Speaker 3>a way it's refreshing, But we're also maybe even a

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<v Speaker 3>little taken aback at how honest he's being in moments.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, we have to start with just giving him

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<v Speaker 2>credit for being able to do his job well behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes. You don't have to be that versed in

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<v Speaker 2>how to handle the press. Some are better than others,

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<v Speaker 2>but when everybody is hanging on to your every word

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<v Speaker 2>and desperate for information, every step can potentially be a

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<v Speaker 2>misstep for this guy, and he is look, Roges, we

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<v Speaker 2>haven't gotten into It doesn't necessarily have to. He is

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<v Speaker 2>getting just ripped online left and right. And I understand

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<v Speaker 2>a criticism, but who are we to say if he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing this right or doing this wrong? Even this comment

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about might be an honest one. This isn't

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<v Speaker 2>a criticism from us about what he's saying. For Rogues,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's been two weeks. They said, we don't get.

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<v Speaker 1>This woman home in twenty four hours, the worst could happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And to hear him in certain when he first said

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<v Speaker 2>robes ah, damn, I ain't think about this till now.

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<v Speaker 2>Should we have been taking the signs that this statement

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<v Speaker 2>might have been coming? When was it when he said

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<v Speaker 2>no further press briefings scheduled. He hasn't had one in

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<v Speaker 2>a week plus. But to tell us this is urgent.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to find her or she could die to

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<v Speaker 2>no more press briefing schedules. And yet this thing could

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<v Speaker 2>take weeks, months or years to find out. You put

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<v Speaker 2>piece that together. Something is happening behind the scenes that

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<v Speaker 2>is not giving them confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I think they're frustrated. You know, you have

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<v Speaker 3>all this activity. The press is like three people have

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<v Speaker 3>been detained. You're seeing white tents go up, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>analyzing vehicles, and they're searching homes. And again, probably not

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<v Speaker 3>something this Sheriff's department is used to doing to look

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<v Speaker 3>for a missing person like this with the world watching.

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<v Speaker 3>And so yes, he called the ups and downs of

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<v Speaker 3>the case exhausting. As you pointed out, this is probably

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<v Speaker 3>fairly new, a new intensity that he and his team

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<v Speaker 3>have not experienced before. And yes, we're all waiting and hoping,

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<v Speaker 3>and certainly the family is on another level. But the

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<v Speaker 3>police feel that scrutiny and that intense pressure, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they're probably not sleeping much, and he certainly is not

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<v Speaker 3>sleeping much, so he might say things he wishes he hadn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine being Savannah's family and seeing that headline,

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<v Speaker 3>even if you know in the back of your mind

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<v Speaker 3>it's possible. Obviously, they've had to leave a certain small

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<v Speaker 3>amount of space amid all the hope they have that shit,

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<v Speaker 3>we might not ever find our mom. That's got to

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<v Speaker 3>be that's the scary thought in the back of their

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<v Speaker 3>head that they know is there that they probably have

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<v Speaker 3>never acknowledged or don't want to acknowledge, and certainly not publicly.

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<v Speaker 3>And now you got the sheriff saying it to the

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<v Speaker 3>New York Times. That's tough to read.

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<v Speaker 2>And it seems impossible, Robes that we could not know

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<v Speaker 2>even in two weeks, that we don't know what happened

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<v Speaker 2>to this lady. We don't know where she is, what conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems completely implausible all the resources. Now, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you disappear? There have been people who've put extensive efforts

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<v Speaker 2>into trying to disappear, and we find them, and.

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<v Speaker 3>We still find them.

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<v Speaker 2>And when they make tried as hard as Robes, how

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<v Speaker 2>is this possible to just abscond with an eighty four

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<v Speaker 2>year old, sickly lady who is not mobile.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't get this story. Baby.

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<v Speaker 2>This is if you want to start throwing in theories

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<v Speaker 2>about alien abduction, I will listen, because that makes just

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<v Speaker 2>as much sense as some of the theories floating out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>No, because you look the motive is never necessary when

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<v Speaker 3>you're at a criminal trial when someone's been charged, and

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<v Speaker 3>yet it's the thing that a jury wants to hear,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's certainly something that police want to know when

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<v Speaker 3>they're investigating, so that they can have a focus, have

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<v Speaker 3>a place to know. Why would someone want to do this?

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<v Speaker 3>And we've talked about it. Obviously it's either money or

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<v Speaker 3>it's passion. It was something that this person clearly planned

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<v Speaker 3>out with what they brought to the home that day,

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<v Speaker 3>so it had to be premeditated. But the big glaring

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<v Speaker 3>question is why why? And if you can't figure out

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<v Speaker 3>the why, it's pretty hard to find the new.

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<v Speaker 1>Robes it took her on purpose?

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<v Speaker 2>If you wanted to kill her, would have killed her

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<v Speaker 2>there right, Yes, if you want to take her, it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be for money. Why are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>take an eighty four year old woman who's sickly you

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<v Speaker 2>got to take care of.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so ransom makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But how many notes have we've gotten from different TV

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<v Speaker 2>stations and news outlets and now from somebody who's a

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<v Speaker 2>rat who says, I know who.

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<v Speaker 1>The kidnapper is. We give me money. Yes, this story

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<v Speaker 1>is beyond no.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say. And the other option is, so

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it started out. We've talked about this. It started

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<v Speaker 3>out as a kidnapping, something went wrong. She she died,

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<v Speaker 3>whether he or the suspect intended to or not. Wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>you then have to get rid of the body, so

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<v Speaker 3>you can't keep it in your home like you can't

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<v Speaker 3>like so, I mean, I guess there are ways, but

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<v Speaker 3>I just like, it's so baffling.

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<v Speaker 1>And you want to leave open And I said that you.

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<v Speaker 2>I said this to you where we were in the

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<v Speaker 2>car yesterday and we were talking about it, and wees

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<v Speaker 2>the only way this story gets bigger is if somehow

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<v Speaker 2>this woman is found alive, that she is found somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>and Nancy Guthrie's comes out of this. Okay, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to hold on to that hope, at least publicly. Robes

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<v Speaker 2>with the information we know, we don't have any reason

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<v Speaker 2>to think otherwise. The family don't know how much different

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<v Speaker 2>information they have. But tones messaging have changed in the

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<v Speaker 2>past two weeks of this story. But there have been developments,

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<v Speaker 2>including DNA that Robes just mentioned, also new ways to

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<v Speaker 2>submit tips, and there have been tons of them. Stay here,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll give you the very latest, including what was an

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<v Speaker 2>increase in police activity this weekend? All right, we continue

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<v Speaker 2>here on Amy and TJ two weeks to the day

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<v Speaker 2>that Nancy Guthrie was reported missing and still no signs

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<v Speaker 2>of her robes. It's important to make this there was

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<v Speaker 2>some increased police activity, and they made clear after that

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<v Speaker 2>that no matter what you've been hearing about detainments and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever else, we got nobody.

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<v Speaker 3>No arrests, no suspects, no persons of interest, and thirty

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand tips to go chase down.

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<v Speaker 2>And that video made all the difference. And that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing. You want to generate tips, But robes, there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many now they say they got four hundred investigators

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<v Speaker 2>going through thirty two. They have to decide which one

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<v Speaker 2>this rises to the level. This one looks like we

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<v Speaker 2>should go after this one first and then track that down,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the next one and the next one.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty two thousand, that's overwhelming. I was curious with the

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<v Speaker 3>DNA that we've talked about, because it is it is fascinating,

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<v Speaker 3>with all of the theories that had been swirling around initially,

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<v Speaker 3>and everyone always looks, including police, especially at the people

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<v Speaker 3>who purported to love Nancy Guthrie or no, Nancy Guthrie.

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<v Speaker 3>You're much more likely, obviously to be killed or have

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<v Speaker 3>some harm come your way by a close friend or

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<v Speaker 3>family member. But that DNA, at least the DNA that

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<v Speaker 3>they found in the home, we don't know what form

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<v Speaker 3>it took, but they were able to rule out family

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<v Speaker 3>and her close friends. That is of incredible significance. I

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<v Speaker 3>was curious because they say the DNA didn't hit a match.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously they've got folks who have already been arrested. They've

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<v Speaker 3>got a basically a database, a database of folks they

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<v Speaker 3>could link up to. That would have been the most

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<v Speaker 3>obvious and most the easiest way, I guess for there

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<v Speaker 3>to be some sort of a connection. But you were

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<v Speaker 3>watching I woke up this morning to you watching True

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<v Speaker 3>Crime per usual, and they were actually talking about taking

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<v Speaker 3>DNA and putting it into one of these twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>and meters types of databases and finding relatives and then

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<v Speaker 3>hunting down the person. Yes, they might not have committed

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<v Speaker 3>a crime, but they might have had relatives who go

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<v Speaker 3>on to some of these ancestry websites, and that's a

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<v Speaker 3>way how you can zero in and find a person

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<v Speaker 3>at least who this DNA may belong to.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely they're doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so if I woke up thinking about this

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<v Speaker 3>case because I was listening in my dream, like stake

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<v Speaker 3>to your to your show.

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<v Speaker 1>They got that guy, by the way, Oh they did

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<v Speaker 1>exactly that.

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<v Speaker 2>That to your point, that's exactly how they tracked down

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<v Speaker 2>a killer. This woman some genealogists. Lady just offered her

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<v Speaker 2>services to a police department. She had to go to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of a thing. Well, IM, we have to assume

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing this. They're doing absolutely everything, but robes. If

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing absolutely everything, seems like something after two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>should put them on some path. It's amazing. It's they

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<v Speaker 2>the way they talk to us, Babe. They talk like

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<v Speaker 2>they have nothing. They talk like they have nothing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm blown away the DNA part. So now we're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>They apparently other people worked at the home and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 2>but everybody who was known to go in and out

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<v Speaker 2>has been eliminated from this DNA. They found who was

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<v Speaker 2>in there and robes even when they figured out, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, leftover from a pizza delivery guy could have

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<v Speaker 2>been left over, but we don't know if it's blood,

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<v Speaker 2>if what they're talking about they found.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So it seems as though if they're actually talking

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<v Speaker 3>about this DNA they found that wasn't Nancy Guthries, you

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<v Speaker 3>would think it had to be something that was from

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<v Speaker 3>I would assume it'd have to be blood. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>just because it would be the only thing that would

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<v Speaker 3>make sense that that would be of interest if it was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I mean, I guess they're looking at fingerprints,

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<v Speaker 3>are looking at everything, a cigarette, it could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Who what any of this could be. They have set

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<v Speaker 2>up now and how this who knows how this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to go. They set up links the FBI and

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<v Speaker 2>the Pema County Sheriff. Click on a link and you

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<v Speaker 2>could submit any evidence. As it says, but any tip

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to get flooded now probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And you think about it. You got one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars out there for someone that's not chump change.

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<v Speaker 3>It started out of twenty five hundred, it went up

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<v Speaker 3>to fifty thousand, and now it's at one hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>If you provide the information that leads to the arrest

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<v Speaker 3>or conviction of the person responsible for taking Nancy Guthrie,

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<v Speaker 3>that is a hell of a reward, and you would

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<v Speaker 3>think it would be incredibly incentivizing.

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<v Speaker 2>But whatever this bozo is, and maybe it did. The

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<v Speaker 2>incentive is to get the money and try to insert

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<v Speaker 2>yourself into a story and try to do a scam.

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<v Speaker 2>But we as the latest note that we know of

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<v Speaker 2>that has been received as a second one or not

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<v Speaker 2>a third one, that came from someone who sent it

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<v Speaker 2>to TMZ claiming that they know who the kidnapper is

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<v Speaker 2>and now they want one hundred thousand dollars and they

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<v Speaker 2>want it by sending me one part of it in

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<v Speaker 2>bitcoin and I promise I won't cash it in until

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<v Speaker 2>you catch the kidnapper and then I want the other half.

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<v Speaker 2>What So that's where we are. That is at this point, Robes. No,

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<v Speaker 2>they still haven't said that's credible yet. They haven't tol seven.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they haven't. And I look, there have been almost

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<v Speaker 3>every day. I think yesterday might have been the exception.

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<v Speaker 3>There have been interesting, strange, out of left field developments

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<v Speaker 3>that have kept this story in the forefront of a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of folks minds. It's kept it on the front

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<v Speaker 3>page of all of our online news sources, and certainly

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<v Speaker 3>it's something people continue to talk about. That's good for

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<v Speaker 3>the Guthries, who want people focused, want pressure on police. However,

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<v Speaker 3>at a certain point, when you have the sheriff coming

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<v Speaker 3>out and talking about it could take years and there

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<v Speaker 3>really aren't any new developments. The biggest fear that you

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<v Speaker 3>could possibly imagine for the Guthries is that people just

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<v Speaker 3>stop caring because it just seems so hopeless and it

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<v Speaker 3>just seems like there's nothing happening. So I fear that, like,

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<v Speaker 3>at least some of these developments, even if they don't

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<v Speaker 3>bear fruit, even if they don't get us closer to

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<v Speaker 3>knowing who the suspect has is, at least it keeps

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<v Speaker 3>the interest alive on the story, which is important.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk about the interest, and you're right. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to remember the last significant, like real concrete updates. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was the video, But other than that, so many

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<v Speaker 2>of the updates have been bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's another one.

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<v Speaker 2>The sheriff in charge who just told us two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>ago we new to find her in twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 2>say yeah, this could take years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a bizarre story, but still nothing concrete. Folks.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't expect to frankly hop on and give an

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<v Speaker 2>update on the This has happened several times. We probably

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<v Speaker 2>won't do a gu three update tomorrow, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>wake up as something happens, we go, holy shit, is

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<v Speaker 2>this so? We just wanted to hop on give you

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<v Speaker 2>this update. This is something that you and certainly we

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<v Speaker 2>are keeping our eyes on. We always appreciate you spending

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<v Speaker 2>time and trusting.

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<v Speaker 1>Us with this story.

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<v Speaker 2>But always top right corner of your Apple podcast app

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<v Speaker 2>We will keep an eye on it, folks. We always

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you spending time with us on TJ Holmes on

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