1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: He is The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. 4 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: What a just a crazy NFL weekend, uh in divisional 5 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: round play. But before we get to any of that, 6 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: we do have to talk about what's going on with 7 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers. Let's start there in your situation. Amazing weekend, 8 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: but we will talk plenty about that those four games. 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: No surprise, Keith Butler is has retired UM stepping down 10 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: at UM. I had reported that back in December that 11 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: that was likely going to in the cause he was 12 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: he was going to be done. And UH, now the 13 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: question is who becomes the next defensive coordinator? Tarall Austin. 14 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: There there's uh senior defensive assistant and secondary coach being 15 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: the leading candidate for the position. Mentioned quite a bit 16 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: as it should be, and for some reason people are 17 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: upset by this. I've gotten a lot of that, which 18 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: makes me a little crazy. I'm gonna go to a 19 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: little rant. I guess here this thing started. You know, 20 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: I keep getting pretty much the same sentiment of oh, 21 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: just higher from within, you know, No reason to bring 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: in new blood or fresh ideas. You know, I mean, 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: everything's peachy here, you know, hypothetically, you know, I'm saying 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: I've heard the same the same stuff, the same tired 25 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: old stupid argument, right right, like everything's always here on 26 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: the other side, And boy, they're they're a tired old organization. 27 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: Why would they keep bringing in the same type people 28 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: and hiring from within? And I'm sitting there going because 29 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: it works, and every other mostly the other teams in 30 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: the league are envious that you can do that. Draft 31 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: changes aren't eight And I'll cite my own experience. I 32 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: mean the year I spent with the Browns, we were 33 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: in the lines then were way different than they are 34 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: watch then was we were a really strict old school 35 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: for three teams, like nine months worth of scouting through 36 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: that lens, as did the whole scouting staff. And then 37 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: Romeo creanll comes in from New England to no fault 38 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: of his, but we want to be a three four front, 39 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, we want to be totally different though those 40 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: three technique guys you looked at, we don't really have 41 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: used for them anymore. And we need stand up edge guys. 42 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: And okay, well, I guess I'll look at everybody again, 43 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, in a shorter amount of time and less 44 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: time to fix it, you know, like, well, not only that, 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: but people are acting like I can remember when both 46 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: Matt Canada and Tara Austin were hired because guess what, 47 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: it wasn't that freaking long ago. These guys came from 48 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: outside the organization. They were hired, and the first question, 49 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: the first question I was asked with both guys, oh 50 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: are they the coordinators in waiting? Maybe? Maybe then, but 51 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: but certainly with with Terrell Austin, he had a track 52 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: record of being a defensive coordinator in the NFL, has 53 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: been a head coaching candidate in the end. And now 54 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: you're surprised he was named the senior defensive He didn't 55 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: have a position. He wasn't a position coach his first 56 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: two years with the Stealers. He's only been with them 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: for three. His his position was senior defensive assistant. Yeah, right, exactly, exactly, 58 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, and he's from this area of the country. 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking through his perspective, you know, you know, this 60 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: is a very good job security team by NFL standards. 61 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: Maybe he could have gotten other jobs across the country 62 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: these last couple of years too. But eight, I know 63 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: coach Butts is gonna be here forever, and I'm gonna 64 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: have a good shot at this thing. And oh, by 65 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: the way, in the meantime, they lead the league in 66 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: sacks every year, which is five never been done before. 67 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: If there was a defensive stat I would take the 68 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: you know, for that, I think that's my pick. I 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: mean guards for play and things. Points would be better, 70 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but I'm just talking about like 71 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: individual type accomplishment things, you know, for the for the 72 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: whole team as a whole. Okay, bringing in well whenever, 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: if everyone moves up the ladder, that also opens the door, 74 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: open the door for new position coaches, and you can 75 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: break them in from out. The people are acting like 76 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: there's not gonna be any new higher here. They're just 77 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: gonna promote guys from within, because they've got this line 78 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: of coaches sitting there waiting who are inside the organization 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: right now, and they're just gonna hire the higher this guy, 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: and and and elevate somebody else, and elevate somebody. I 81 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: don't know who the somebody is on the staff, but 82 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: somebody's getting a minors. Yeah, right, Like that's not really 83 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: how it works. And so I'm sure that there'll be 84 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: new ideas, and there's definitely be new ideas between Butler 85 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: and Austin if he ends up getting the job as well. 86 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: But folks, all you guys that want all these new, 87 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: new shiny things to add to the defense, That's where 88 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: I was going with my Brown's conversation is do you 89 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: really want to create a new scheme that needs things 90 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: that aren't here already? You know what I mean? Like 91 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: you want to add needs to your off season? You know, 92 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean all you guys want a whole new offensive line, 93 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: You want another you know, keep juju you you want 94 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: all these quarterbacks? You know, why would you create more needs? 95 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I get that all the time. 96 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: Once they just switched to a fourth three defense. Didn't 97 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: have enough defensive lineman this year? Right right now? You 98 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: want to keep nine of them on the you know, 99 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: by the way, you're too I always this this one 100 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: always killed me too. This is another myth out there. 101 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: T J. Watt and Alex Highsmith are too light to 102 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: play and in the in this uh when they go 103 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: to Nickel, they're too light there's two or fifty pounds, 104 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, look at look at the for Oakland for example, 105 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: or the and Doc Way and Max cross sizes. Yeah, 106 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: I mean that's what that's it. There den't heard that argument, 107 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: but I hear it all the time. Believe that it's 108 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: true at all. It's ridiculous. I mean, that's or if 109 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: they can't handle the edge and run support, that's a 110 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: different story. But was James Harrison too small? I mean, 111 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: nobody was getting outside of him, you know, I mean, 112 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't understand that arguing at all. 113 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: But again, it sounds like they're going to kick the 114 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: tires on some other candidates too, And maybe they're gonna 115 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure they'll bring somebody into, you know, 116 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: a little lower on the food chain. But well, if 117 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: you hired if Terrell Austin gets to bump up to 118 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: your point, now they need a new secondary coach, So 119 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: you're bringing new blood into the organization at one point. People, 120 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: it's not like Terrell Austin has been with the organization 121 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: for the last twenty years. That's the misconception to me 122 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: is I think people think, oh, he's from around here, 123 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: like they forget that he was just tired a couple 124 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: of years ago, and he's had a pretty good track 125 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: record before that. And again I was asked when both 126 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: he and Canada were hired, Well, they're they're they're the 127 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: coordinators in waiting, and now people are now people are 128 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: surprised that they're the coordinators in waiting. Which is it. 129 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna give them a plan. You're gonna give the 130 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: organization a hard time for having a plan years ago. 131 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: That's actually coming to fruition, you know, like this is 132 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: the way we drew it up. We have you have 133 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: people that you like, you elevated. Now whether they were 134 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: the right guy or not, we you know, we could 135 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: have that discussion. I wasn't super jet when people were 136 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: asking me if Tarrell Austin was the defensive coordinator and waiting, 137 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: I was on board with that. Okay, he's got a 138 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: track record, he's done it before, he's he's he's been 139 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: a longtime NFL assistant coach. He's coached in two Super Bowls. 140 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And I'm just sitting thinking I always hate 141 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: looking at their you know, but but look, his position 142 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: group isn't great. I'm thinking, well, he got a lot 143 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: out of corners that aren't first round picks too. He 144 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: didn't just surround him with unbelievable talent in the secondary, 145 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, that's just another secondary was one 146 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: of their least concerns this year. Exactly. That was not 147 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: a concern this year. It was the the run defense well, 148 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, and oh, by the way, who led the 149 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: team and tackles well, one of the safeties, right. And 150 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: I say this every year on podcasts or local or whatever. 151 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: It's one of my least favorite things about being having 152 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: the job that I do because analyzing assistant coaches we 153 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, or even you know, new coaching 154 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: hires for head coaching jobs that were once a coordinator. 155 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: Matthew think he's gonna be a good head coach. I 156 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: don't know the human being, you know. I mean, it's 157 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: a lot of his personalities and being with these guys 158 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: all the time. And then they say this because I 159 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: was lucky enough to be inside the walls with some 160 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: of these guys and you see who's really good at 161 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: their job. But you wouldn't have known if you were 162 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: even a really good beat reporter. I mean, a lot 163 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: of stuff is inside the building. Lebo Is a great 164 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: defensive coordinate right. Dick Clebo as a coach two games 165 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: two games a year. And it's not because he was 166 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: a bad leader. His players loved him. Um. But there's 167 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: more to it than just different job requirements. A different 168 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: job requirement. Uh. Now we know that Mike Tomlin calls 169 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: a lot of the defense, if not all of the defense. 170 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: Over the last five or six years, becoming pretty apparent, 171 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: people are now saying that's a problem. I don't know why. 172 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: I look today, seventeen coaches in the NFL are the 173 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: primary play colors on one side of the ball or 174 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: the other. I mean, this is the this is the 175 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: trend in the NFL. Yeah, oh yeah, I mean this 176 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: is not something just a few years ago. It was 177 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: like eight Okay, I was sitting here thinking it was 178 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: like going back to the Walsh days. Is that common 179 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: about half a league or not. I've never really given 180 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: it much thought. Yeah, I mean I don't really think 181 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: much about it either. Is the defense good? Is a bad? Okay? 182 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: It's the offense good? Is it bad? You know? Um? 183 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: One thing I think about head coaches is if you're 184 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: almost like the wolf, like, you know, you have to 185 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: have answers. You know how to fix things and fix 186 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: things quick, and especially if one side of the ball, 187 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: which is your specialty, is an area of concern, you've 188 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: got to stop that bleeding now. So I think that's 189 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: a good thing to be that dialed in on one 190 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: side of the ball. Assume you can detach yourself from 191 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: the offense to some degree and have a guy you trust. 192 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: I only worry and I blame the Andy Read a 193 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: lot throughout his career. Was maybe your game management, clock management. 194 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: There's there's always issues to suffer if you're sitting there 195 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: and you always think of the offensive side, looking at 196 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: the you know, the cheesecake factory menu. You're not paying 197 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: attention to time out some things. But there's so much 198 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: one man can do. There's not a head coach out 199 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: there that doesn't on on the side of the ball, 200 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: particularly on the side of the ball, that that he's 201 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: in charge, that he versed in, doesn't ground, doesn't have 202 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: some level of control over. I can remember. I can 203 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: remember back in in like two thousand, especially the game 204 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: plans leading up to the week, saying I'm the defensive 205 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: coordinator on this team. Yeah, you know, and you know 206 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: you're like oh okay, you know, because yeah, that's his specialty. 207 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: That was his specialty, you know. So Tom and those 208 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: defense are we surprised that he has a big hand 209 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: in in the defensive play calling. Shouldn't be shouldn't be 210 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: at all. So I look today. Okay, here this is 211 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: from Yard Parker. Yeah. Yeah, for what it's worth, the 212 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: top are the They list here top offensive and top 213 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: defensive play callers in the league. Okay, by no coincidence. 214 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: I mentioned this to you off of but maybe it 215 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: is a coincidence, but I mentioned this you off the air. Um, 216 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: all four coaches in the in the final four, their 217 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: head coach is called plays Now they're all offensive. Yeah, 218 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: they're all And that's gonna be more common. Yeah, and 219 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: it's and it's there are more offensive coaches who do 220 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: make the do the play calling, so it's easier to 221 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: rise up the ranks. If you're a quarterback whisperer, you know, right, 222 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: you don't want to lose your your offensive play caller. 223 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: So number one on the list is Andy Reid. Okay, 224 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: I don't think you get a whole lot of argument. 225 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: There also a head coach number two, Sean Payton, also 226 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: a head coach and they've both been doing it for 227 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, and calling plays for a long time. 228 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: Number three Sean McVeigh also a head coach. Number four 229 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan also a head coach. Number five Matt Lafleur, 230 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: also a head coach. Wins a lot of games. You 231 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: have to get down to Josh McDaniels, a lot of 232 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: collective wins there on those top five over the last 233 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: five years or so too. You know, you have to 234 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: get down to six at Josh McDaniels before you get 235 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: to an actual offensive coordinator. It's and I honestly think 236 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: McDaniels is gonna take over Belichick and now there's there's 237 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: also rumors that the Raiders are that's who, That's who 238 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: they want. Frank Reich also a head coach. Kevins Stefanski 239 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: also a head coach the year. Last year, uh, John 240 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: Gruden was still on this list. Came out during year, 241 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: but he was the head coach. I think that's what 242 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: he does best design offense. Arthur Smith also a head coach. UH. 243 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: Then Byron Left which is on there at eleven. Maybe 244 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: soon to be a head coach er, Yeah, he's gonna be. 245 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: He has a good chance to be a head coach, 246 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: and Arian said if he becomes a head coach, is 247 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: a good chance he'll take over the play calling next year. 248 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Adding another one to the list left which probably want 249 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: to call his own place might make an eight ten. 250 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: Greg Roman at twelve, okay, not a not a head coach, 251 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: that very specialized type. Matt Naggi called his own place. 252 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: Well he's he's been fired. Uh. Darryl Bevil with the Jaguars, 253 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: Well he wound up being the head coach. Kellen Moore's 254 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: is an offensive coordinator. Okay, he called calls the place. 255 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: If he comes the head coach, he'll definitely call. Yeah. 256 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: McCarthy called the place in Green Bay when he was 257 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: head coach. Cliff Kingsbury calls his own place. Brian Dables 258 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator, okay, maybe soon to be head coach. 259 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: Ye Jason Garrett coordinator, Joe Brady. These are guys who 260 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: got fired Scott in Washington. I mean, these are these 261 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: are the guys calling to play Scott turning over here, 262 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: Scott Turner, Yeah, that's what I know about him. Joe 263 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: Lombarney calls the place in for the church. Pat Schermer 264 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: calls him, called him for the broncho is this year. 265 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, the Bengals head coach, there's all of a 266 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: sudden become a genius. Now he's a genius. Nick Sirianni 267 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: head coach Anthony Lynn has been a head coach. Now 268 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: He's had people push it saying the Steelers need to 269 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: go hire Anthony Lynn. Are you out of your mind? 270 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: He was hard to watch as a head coach. They 271 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: need to hire him to be their offensive coordinate because 272 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: that Lions offense was so good this year? What's so 273 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: appealing about that? Have no idea? Todd Dowling took over 274 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: in Tennessee as the offensive coordinator. Rabel is not calling 275 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: his He's not calling offensive, he's offensive guy. Tim Kelly 276 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator this year in Texas. I'm not 277 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: familiar with his work, right, Well, you kind of are 278 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: now Eric Studsville and George Godsea where core offensive coordinator? 279 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: That's coordinators, And you want to talk about a confused situation. 280 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: From what I understand, I think one of them does 281 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: early downs and one of them takes over and the 282 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, so crazy to me, 283 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean of course they're probably sitting right next to 284 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: each other and chatting things over. But that's like switching 285 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: out offensive linement. Right, How is second and fourteen different 286 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: than third and ten? Right? Right? Right? If I call 287 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: this on second and fourteen setting up Eric to get 288 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't you know, get get him where 289 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: he wants to be, but he doesn't have a say 290 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: in that. Yeah, it's Matt Candle that was on here 291 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: as a new coordinator as his Clint Kubiak with the Vikings. 292 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: He's not looking for a job. Mike Lafleur the Jets 293 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: offensive cornea. Uh, Shane Waldron with the uh Seahawks. Oh yeah, 294 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: he was a new higher and I think that's that's it. 295 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: So more those are more than half the play callers 296 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Offensive play callers are head coaches. Yea. 297 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: Looking at the defensive side of things, Bill Belichick, he 298 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: can say his son calls the plays. His son isn't 299 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: doing anything to Bill doesn't put his rubber stamp on, right, 300 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that, and he has for twenty years. 301 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Wink Martindale. Well he just he just left it. Yeah. Uh. 302 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: They list Keith Butler as the Steelers defensive coordinator. But 303 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: we know it's Mike Tomlas as you see here with 304 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: the picture of the picture that they have a butler 305 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: Tomlins right over his shoulder. Probably not. It's been one 306 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: of the best defense in the league for the last 307 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: ten years, folks. That's the part I think is overlooked here. 308 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, how are you messing with it? Yeah? Former 309 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: head coach Memmer, head coach who called the defense with 310 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: the Jets, probably a future head coach, Dennis Allen. We've 311 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: talked about him with the Saints. Well, obviously, if if 312 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: you're head coach is calling the offensive place, he's not 313 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: calling the defensive place. Mike Zimmer with Minnesota head coach, 314 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: head coach Vic Fangio with the Broncos head coach Dean 315 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: ps was the Falcons defensive coordinator. Then he is with 316 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: the Titans now too right calls Steve Spagnola with the Chiefs. 317 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: Those are a lifetime head coach, Those are lifetime DC's 318 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: Brandon the Chargers defenses this year and also went for 319 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: it on fourth down seventy five thousand times. Disturbing. I mean, like, 320 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: if you're gonna come in to fix the defense, I 321 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: want you to handle your side of the ball first 322 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: and foremost, and he didn't. Yeah. Uh, Matt Eberfloss, he's 323 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: at the Colts. Colts defensive coordinator Jack del Rio, a 324 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: former head coach with Washington. Uh, he's Washington. His defensive coordinator, 325 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser, another former head coach, the Bill's defensive coordinator 326 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: getting interviews to Gus Bradley, another former head coach, is 327 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: the you know Raiders defensive coordinator Dan Quinn. The same thing, 328 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph Cardinals defensive coordinator, another former head coach coach. 329 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: And I'm guessing all these quote former head coaches called 330 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: the plays when on the defensive side of the ball 331 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: when they were the head guy. Joe Woods with the 332 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: Browns not a head coach, No, but his head coach 333 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: calls the offensive place right, so it's his the Yeah, 334 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: Lovey Smith with the Texans as their defense coordinator. Former 335 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: head coach Ken Norton Jr. The Seahawks defensive coordinator. I 336 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: think he's yeah, um, but was not a head coach. Josh. 337 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised that Carol doesn't call more of 338 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: the defense, is there. That's one that kind of stands 339 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: out Yeah, and again that would be one be on 340 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: the headsets like is he really saying we're here? The 341 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: same thing with Arians in Tampa? Is he really is? 342 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: You know? Is it all left which or is it 343 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: Arians right right right? Josh Boyer, the Dolphins defensive coordinator. 344 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: I would be willing to bet that they're all out. Yeah, 345 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: but I would be willing to bet that he didn't 346 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: call all the defense. I'm sure he didn't. That's a 347 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: good point. I'm sure Flora has had a massive influence 348 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: over that and it's absolutely a Patriot scheme that he 349 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: brought with him. Yeah. Patrick Graham with the Giants, who 350 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: talked about Raheem Morris, Rams defensive coordinator, former head coach 351 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: uh Jeff Overlap, Jeff Olbrich, the Jets defensive coordinator. Again 352 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: his his linebacker in Hawaii. Yeah, Joe Barry the Packers 353 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Okay, Phil Snow the Panthers defensive coordinator. These 354 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: are newer guys. Lou and a Rumo the Bengals defensive coordinator. 355 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: Shane Bowen the Titans defensive coordinator. Joe Cullen the Jaguars 356 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Shot the Bank Bears defensive coordinator. This is 357 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: a list. I mean these people ranked them in terms 358 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: of their play calling abilities, right, and the guys at 359 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: the bottom of the guy yeah, you know, right, right right, 360 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: the MECO Ryan's is on there, and yeah he's getting 361 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: head coach and jump up that last I'm short, you know, right, 362 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: But you see more offensive guys do it than defensive 363 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: guys because owners are gonna hire offensive guys to run 364 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: the team, correct, you know. Yeah. I mean a big 365 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: fear of a lot of people is people. I'm not 366 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: trying to make people laugh here, but I mean if 367 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: Canada would have blow and everyone's doors off this year 368 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: and then you would have lost them possibly, you know 369 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's you're more likely to rent a 370 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: great offensive coordinator than have them be a fixture a 371 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: LAbau like defensive coordinator that last forever, you know what 372 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: I mean. It's just the way. Yeah, there's more of 373 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: the old. You know, these guys some of them were 374 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: tried his head coaches, didn't work out, and now they're 375 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: back to being There's a lot of dcs that are 376 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: lifetime dcs that you're really set with. Like Fangio had 377 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: this little stint with the Broncos but he'll probably go 378 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: back to a DC role. And you know Phillips Bum 379 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: Philips kid, who did it for fifty years. You know 380 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: a lot of those. I've had a lot of people 381 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: asked me, why don't the Steelers, you know, aren't they 382 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: interviewing Wink Martindale. I don't know that he fits here. 383 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: I don't think he fits here. I mean totally. I 384 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: always looking at it through a scouting front office perspective, 385 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: like you have the past rushing place. I know the 386 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: Steelers have traditionally blitzed a lot, but you're not gonna 387 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: go spend a fortune on man cover corners in the 388 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: first round just so you can blitz six, you know 389 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like you're already getting there. You're already 390 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback blitz crazy because they didn't have 391 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: pass rushers. They spend all their money on secondary guys. Yeah, 392 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: why build the team? If I flipped the thing over 393 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: just to build it differently so he could be in charge, 394 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean, apparently hard, but I didn't love him, Yeah, 395 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean he got fired. It wasn't like it was 396 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: a mutual parting of the ways or anything. You know, 397 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: they sold the parting of the ways but it was 398 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that's how I mean they were dead 399 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: last and past defense. Yeah, and they had issues, but boy, 400 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: their defense was really they kept they kept blitzing even 401 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: though they didn't have the corners. Yeah, I mean yards 402 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: for play was the worst in the league. I don't imagine. 403 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: You can't imagine you saying that about the Raven Keep 404 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 1: keep keep sending. Everybody wink. That's a good idea, right, right? 405 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: So I mean, is he gonna go back to being 406 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: a secondary coach or linebacker coach or something for a 407 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: year or guy, I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure either, 408 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: but I don't think he fits here in Pittsburgh. Just 409 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: what he's done schematically over the years doesn't fit. Well. 410 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm not putting words in your mouth, but it sure 411 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: feels like the The crux of the conversation for this 412 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: segment is if it ain't broke, why are we trying 413 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: to fix it? And I've also gotten a lot of 414 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: the argument that why is Tom and calling the defense? 415 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: He's really good at it. He's good at it, and 416 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: half to coach it. More than half the coach league 417 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: do it, including the teams that are in the four. 418 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: The final four this weekend. I'm sure the natures of 419 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: your questions are, Boy, that's crazy, why would they do that? 420 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: That's you know, that's not what he should be doing. 421 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: It's very common now if I defense, if I get that, yeah, 422 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, I've not been a proponent of it over 423 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: the years because I do think that head coaches have 424 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: a lot on their plate. But looking at this, I'm like, 425 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: we don't half to I mean half the league. Half 426 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: the league is doing it, and a lot of them 427 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: are the teams that made playoffs. And if you're not 428 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: good at you don't. You don't do it anymore because 429 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: you got fired. I mean Belichick did it for years. 430 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean Walsh did it like the best head coaches ever. Yeah, 431 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: not only can it be done, but it's been done 432 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: extremely well history including here. Yeah. I mean I look 433 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: at the Steelers defense this year, is is an anomaly 434 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: more than because of the threes that they had. I 435 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: can't look at that that defense, well they had, they 436 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: had the worst rushy run Russia defense league. There were 437 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: some extenuating circumstances there. I mean, you didn't have two 438 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: of your top three defensive linemen basically all the years 439 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: the whole year. I mean that they're a team that 440 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: beat that Bills team last night. People were watching those 441 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: games last night and watching the Bills go up and 442 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: down the field on the Chiefs, and boy, the Steelers 443 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: just can't compete with these teams, like, well they did 444 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: beat the Bills. You know, Um, I'm sure I was 445 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: going to kick out of like when many camps open 446 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: and listening to quotes that you guys get from the team, 447 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 1: I'm sure we're gonna hear a lot about stuff stuffing 448 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: the run, our run DEFENSEI needs to be better, you know, 449 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: our fits need to be better. It's it's to come 450 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: come out from all angles and from every which way 451 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: but loose, maybe even starting with the owner whenever he 452 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: interesses people for the first time. I mean this a 453 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: year ago, he said we need to run the ball better. Well, 454 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: we might be here and we need to stop the 455 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: run better. And you know, and that's not the hardest 456 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: fix in the world, No it's not. And we'll talk 457 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: more about that and whole running the ball thing I 458 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: wanted to talk. I want to talk with you about 459 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: that when we take on the next segment here we 460 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: talk about the games that took place this weekend. What 461 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: they mean for a team like the Steelers will do 462 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: that when we come back. He's Matt Williams and I'm 463 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: Dale Lala. 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