1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Hey, the culture of this team and where we're at 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: as a group of men that like being around each 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: other and want to win for the city of Cleveland, 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Like it's never been higher since I've been here. 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: This is the Cleveland Browns Preview Shows. This is your 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: chance to get an in depth preview of the week 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: ahead in Borea. The Cleveland Browns Preview Show is presented 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: by Tostitos, the official chip and Dip partner of the 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. This is the University Hospital's Cleveland Browns Radio Network. 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: Are your hosts Kim Carmen named Girrod Cherry not here. 11 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: It is to bring you your first official Welcome to 12 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: training camp in twenty twenty five. As we're two days 13 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: away from the first preseason game of the season, as 14 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 3: your Cleveland Browns are on the road in Carolina to 15 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: take on the Panthers on Friday night at Bank of 16 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: America Stadium. Good Evening, Friends, Ken Carmen alongside of Gerad Cherry. 17 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: It's the Cleveland Browns Preview Show presented by Tostitos, the 18 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: official Chip and Dip partner of your Cleveland Browns. Girard 19 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: Good Evening, my friend. 20 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 4: Good Evening, Kenneth, how are you doing. 21 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: I'm man oh, I'm doing wonderful. It's wonderful to see 22 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: your face again. I know you're down with the football 23 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: team as you're getting ready to do sidelines coming up 24 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: on Friday night, seven pm. I think it's time we 25 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: get going with four downs first number one. Welcome to 26 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five season, my friends, and we'll get 27 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: right down to it. Girod give me your thoughts and 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: takeaways from today's joint practice with the Panthers. I'm hearing 29 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: from all the way up here. I'm about seven hours 30 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: away from Charlotte, North Carolina, and I'm hearing all the 31 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: way up here. Off a defensive line looked very nice today. 32 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, the running game certainly was have an impact. He 33 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 5: saw some really nice runs. And the other thing too 34 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 5: that was much better than what we saw in training 35 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 5: camp against our own squad was pass pro. So you 36 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 5: saw some positive plays. But I would qualify ken really 37 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 5: as a professional practice. No one was trying to hurt anyone. 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 5: The intensity was there, but it wasn't to the point 39 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 5: where there was some clear dislike between the two squads. 40 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 5: But certainly some work got done. But I will say this. 41 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 5: We have to do a much better job of not 42 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 5: penalizing ourselves with the pre snap penalties that reared ugly 43 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 5: head on many of occasions today, way too many for 44 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 5: my life. 45 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: Oh, that could be very tough. You know, that hurt 46 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: us last year and now there was a lot of 47 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: things going on offensively. Last year was a really tough 48 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: thing to deal with. You know, halfway through the year, 49 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: some of the changes that were made to the offense. 50 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 3: Of course Deshaun Watson's unfortunate injury, and then you had 51 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: to make even more changes to the offense. So you know, 52 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: you can't have those pre snap penalties, especially with some 53 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 3: of the young ones who were taking over different positions. 54 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: Dwan Jones over at that left tackle spot. You got 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: some pops there. Speaking of Dewan, saw a couple of 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 3: videos of him down there. How's he looking today? 57 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 5: Well, I like the fact that one of the players 58 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 5: I said, it wasn't that much acrimony taking place between 59 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 5: the Panthers and the Browns. There was a situation though, 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 5: when Duan let it be known that he was not 61 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 5: going to allow them to fall on his backs and 62 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 5: not say anything about it. So there was some chatter 63 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 5: and you need that to let people know that, hey, 64 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 5: you're not gonna treat us any kind of way. So 65 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 5: he was doing that. But for the most part, I 66 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 5: thought he did a fairly good job. And then when 67 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 5: you think about the rest of the office line, again 68 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 5: we held our own and if I felt it was 69 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 5: much better, better than what we had seen in practice, 70 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 5: because really we were having a hard time against our 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 5: own defense of even getting a ball snapped, let alone 72 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 5: being able to perhaps productive plays. But we were certainly 73 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 5: in my mind, much better today and we had a 74 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 5: fishing job. Again, it falls back on the pre snap penalties. 75 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: We've heard a lot about Luke Florio, We've heard a 76 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: lot about Gage Larvadane. What are some of the names 77 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: that stuck out to you today in this practice? I'm 78 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: talking about camp, But what about today Wednesday against Carolina, 79 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 3: I'd imagine to be more of the ones on both 80 00:03:59,160 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: those sides. 81 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, with Jerry Judy and Tillan certainly made their presence felt. 82 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 5: Especially Jerry Judy. He was dominant, and for some reason 83 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 5: several of the Carolina Panthers, deep as the backs, wanted 84 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 5: to say something negative to him, and Jerry simply told 85 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 5: him check the tape, I cook you guys, and they 86 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 5: had nothing to say after that. 87 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, after last year, you know, Jerry again regarded as 88 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: one of the best wide receivers in all the NFL, 89 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: and you mentioned that Carolina Panthers defense. You know, they 90 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: were a decent group as time went on last year. 91 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: They're hoping to be the same way coming up in 92 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, and they seem to have a new 93 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 3: lease on life with Bryce Young, their young quarterback. We'll 94 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: talk more about them coming up here momentarily, but let's 95 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 3: get to second down, Second down, Big News of the 96 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: day QB. One Friday night in Carolina, Shedor Senders gets 97 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: the start, new editions, new Puntley's gonna play as well, 98 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: No Flacco, no Picket, no Gabriel Pickett and Gabriel Or 99 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: because of the hamstring injuries. Joe, we know him very well, 100 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 3: the grand old man. He's forty years old. You know 101 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: you're gonna get the best out of him. So he's 102 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 3: gonna be held out in that game. But what are 103 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: you seeing with Shoe Sanders throughout the dis camp and 104 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 3: what do you expect to get out of him coming 105 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: up on Friday night? 106 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 5: Well, I call him seventy percent Sanders, because every time 107 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 5: he steps on the football field, he's throwing as a 108 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 5: seventy percent of completion. So that right there is gonna 109 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 5: get you on the football feel more often than not. 110 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 5: But what I'm seeing really is a guy who does 111 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 5: not look like you're a typical what we design as 112 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 5: a fifth round draft pick. He doesn't play like that, 113 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 5: he doesn't look like that. He certainly doesn't act like that. 114 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 5: So what we do have, in my mind is a 115 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 5: guy who has opportunity. Because it's being characterized as him 116 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 5: being thrown under the bus, and I'm sending myself, Ken, 117 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 5: how's the opportunity to start a football game in the 118 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 5: National Football League? Be it preseason, let alone regular season 119 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 5: a bad thing? It's an opportunity. It's the opportunity to 120 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 5: go out there and shine. And if he goes out 121 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 5: there in shines, that's only gonna help his cause. So 122 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 5: I've been impressed with what I've seen. I feel that 123 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 5: when he's on the football field, I see a different 124 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 5: type of energy take place. I see him move the 125 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 5: football effectively, And I really have been impressed with what 126 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 5: I've seen out of him so far. 127 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: Looking at it from a different perspective, jord do you 128 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 3: host a show in the afternoon, I host a show 129 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: in the morning. I did not realize. I knew that 130 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: there were people who were detractors of him. I didn't 131 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: realize that there were people in the internet fighting over 132 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: him so much over the last four years. And we're 133 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: getting our first taste. And my head's kind of spinning 134 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: of it because it's like, ain't no one happy about anything? 135 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: You know, crazy things are being said about him, and 136 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: I you know, asking everybody with the Browns, asking everybody 137 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 3: coming the Browns are going No, they're doing us as 138 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: right as they possibly can do. By shoot or because 139 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: you look at the system he came from in college 140 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: to what he's going to deal with with the NFL. 141 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: It might take some time. Ceilings high. We know where 142 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: he could have been taken. He ends up being taken 143 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 3: by the Browns in day three. But you want to 144 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: bring him along the right way. 145 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 5: Oh, you certainly want to do that. Another part though, 146 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 5: Ken and a lot of people are missing, this part 147 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 5: of it being the fourth streen quarterback, having the minimum 148 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 5: amount of reps. That may create a sense of urgency 149 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 5: about you, and that may put you in a spot 150 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 5: to where you truly are going to have to earn 151 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 5: it to be in that spot the one day that 152 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 5: you are a starter. And I am convinced the best 153 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 5: type of starter for a quarterback that you want is 154 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 5: a guy who's been through the fire. You want a 155 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 5: guy who's at an uphill battle all the way, especially 156 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 5: if he's gonna don a Cleveland Brown's uniform, because we 157 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 5: already know quarterbacks have come here and they don't survive 158 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 5: coming here, and if you go through hell to get 159 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 5: to that place, you may just be one of those survivors. 160 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 5: So I think what's going on for him is the 161 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 5: best case scenario because it's truly preparing him to be 162 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 5: in a space to where he's gonna have to earn it. 163 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: It will not be given. 164 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: What if you thought about the QB competition so far 165 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: throughout this camp. 166 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's been one in which pretty much 167 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 5: I walked away from it saying that Joe Flacco is 168 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 5: clearly still the best quarterback on the roster, and eighteen 169 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 5: years of playing in the National Football League should provide 170 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 5: that as an accurate statement on my part. And then 171 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 5: with Kenny, obviously the hamstring is gonna truly hamstring his 172 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: game because Parver's game is wiggling. He doesn't have that. 173 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 5: And then with Gabriel, you see a guy who's getting 174 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 5: the majority of the reps and they're definitely developing him 175 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 5: and you see some promise there as well. And with Shadur, 176 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 5: I said, I love what I'm seeing. He's throwing at 177 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 5: seventy percentile. How can you complain about that? So I 178 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: haven't said that anyone has distinguished themselves to wear as 179 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 5: far and above, but it's still clear in my mind 180 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 5: that Joe Flacco is the best quarterback that we have 181 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 5: on the roster right now. 182 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: Time for third down, Third down. So we've had two 183 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: weeks of training camp here, Jerrod, let's recap it. Outside 184 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: of the quarterbacks, we've all talked about the quarterback so 185 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: so much rount this first two weeks of camp. However, 186 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: what are your concerns outside? Can I just start with mine? 187 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: I think it might be secondary depth with the injuries 188 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: that we've had so unfortunate to lose M. J Emerson 189 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: for the year with that achilles. 190 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's certainly one. But also look at the receiver position. 191 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 5: We're gonna need Deontay Johnson to emerge. We're gonna need 192 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 5: sedgri Tilman to emerge and play at a high level 193 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 5: because right now, if you look at the receiver room, 194 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 5: who you circling Jerry Judy? You should do that anyway. 195 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 5: But what happens if he's in the spot to where 196 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 5: he goes out for a game or two, Who's gonna 197 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 5: step up? Who's gonna emerge? So for me, it's still 198 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 5: the receiver position. I'm confident that the tight end position 199 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 5: that in Djoku will return to for him, and I 200 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 5: love what I'm seeing out a fan in junior. But 201 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 5: for me, again, I go back to receivers and running backs. 202 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 5: We already know that's plug and play. These guys come 203 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 5: from college able to play on the high level in 204 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 5: the pros. 205 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: I think it's a very big camp and I think 206 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: a lot of Brons fans would obviously agree. It's a 207 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: very big camp in a very big season for Cedric Tillman. 208 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: You know, year one, a lot of getting to learn things. 209 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 3: You remember that game against the Bears, Joe Flacco talking 210 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: to him about the right props right out. Man, It's 211 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 3: very very difficult to do that. And then last year, 212 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: a lot of that season lost because of the head injury. 213 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: It's a pivotal year for Cedric Tillman and then of 214 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: course Harold fannin junior that rookie can'ton Ohio having a 215 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: very nice camp himself. He's standing out to you, girod. 216 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 5: Oh, Yeah, I love what I'm seeing and that he's 217 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 5: making plays catching the football. Now today he had a 218 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 5: couple opportunities and he took advantage of him. But yeah, 219 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be a pivotal part because I 220 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 5: think he's gonna be that guy where you said, where's 221 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 5: the mismatch at can a dB really stick with him? 222 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 5: They had a physical presence to do that can align 223 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 5: back or run with him. So he may be the 224 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 5: got it again. It's not getting the attention, but ultimately 225 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 5: gonna start drawing their attention to him because I think 226 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 5: he's gonna create a lot mismatches for our offense. 227 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: Time for fourth down, fourth down. So last year the 228 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers went into the season, this is our opponent 229 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 3: coming up on Friday night, seven pm, all along the 230 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Panthers in twenty twenty four, five, 231 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 3: and twelve, their first year with Dave Canalis, and you 232 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: know a lot of people had Bryce Young on the 233 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: mat and we're giving up on him. But he started 234 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: to get things going in that second year with the 235 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers. Talking to people down in Carolina, down and 236 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: Charlotte about this football team, what do they expect odd 237 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: of Bryce Young this year and second year head coach 238 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: Dave Canalis. 239 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 5: Well, they're expecting them take that next step, because you're 240 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 5: absolutely right in your assessment. 241 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 4: Kid. 242 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 5: Last year, everyone was ready to bury him, especially when 243 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 5: he got replaced by Dalton, But that time off, he 244 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 5: took it the right way. He observed, he'd learned. He 245 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 5: came back and played the higher level football and quarterback 246 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 5: obviously it was a position he plays, so you applaud that. 247 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 5: And even today, I gotta give him credit. He has 248 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 5: some positive plays out there on the football field. So 249 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 5: he's certainly taking a step in the right direction. Before 250 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 5: the Carolina Panthers, if anything, they're saying, okay, we got 251 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 5: issues on offensive side of the ball, and we also 252 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 5: have issues with stopping the run and that was a 253 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 5: major problem with them last year. So they're in a 254 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: very interesting division in the NFC South. But for Bryce 255 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 5: Young in particular. I think he can take another step 256 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 5: this year. And it's all starts with having the right 257 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 5: quarterback head coach relationship. And it seems to me that 258 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 5: Dave Canal understands him and they're making the right connection. 259 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they had a very interesting draft. You know, 260 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: they go, they get Tech McMillan for Bryce Sean, the 261 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: kid on Arizona. A lot of things said about him, 262 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: and I tell you I got defensive of Tech McMillan 263 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 3: before the draft because you know, some people were going, 264 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: motor motor, motor, motor motor. I'm going, guys, he's playing 265 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: for Arizona, girod you know college football as much as 266 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 3: anybody in the city of Cleveland. And that's saying something. 267 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: We've got guys like Phil Steele here for crying out up. 268 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: But you watch Tep McMillan during the season like he's 269 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: the only part of their offense. Of course, he's gonna 270 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: be gas to try to keep them in football games 271 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: with last year's first year head coach and Brett Brennan, 272 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 3: so I think Tep McMillan could be a great addition 273 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: for them. Then they go they get Nick's scoring in 274 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 3: the second round, after their trades with the Bears and 275 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: the Broncos, they go edge again with the kid out 276 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: of all miss in the third round. So they're trying 277 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: to build inside out. But of course they wanted to 278 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: get someone because they traded away Djmore a couple of 279 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 3: years ago. They wanted to get somebody for Bryce Young 280 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: that's gonna be able to help him out and help 281 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: this offense out. 282 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 5: Right, Jerry speaking, you're gonna get your quarterback, a tackle 283 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 5: or a wide receiver that if you really are truly 284 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 5: serious about supporting him, and they did just that. 285 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right about that. Okay. For the Browns here, 286 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: our expectations are what coming up on Friday. 287 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 5: The expectations are to play clean football on the offensive 288 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 5: side of the ball, move it up and down the 289 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 5: football field. That'll be a departure from last year and 290 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 5: the pre snap pilties we saw today in practice. Get 291 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 5: away from that. That is your cancer. That is something 292 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 5: that cannot take place on a continuum because if it does, 293 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 5: you're not gonna win football games because the margin for 294 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 5: air for us is not great. So you have to 295 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 5: make sure that you're not making these pre snap pilties. 296 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 5: So if I'm seeing what the young, inexperienced quarterback in 297 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 5: there and then moving up and down the football field 298 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 5: and not having pre snap pilmies and able to score 299 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 5: some points. I'm gonna be extremely encouraged Kin by what 300 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 5: I see. 301 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: You're an interesting character here, Girod because, like you know, 302 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: you talked to Doug Deacon. Doug was part of the 303 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: six game preseason. Everybody played. Everybody played as much as 304 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 3: they could because they had to play themselves into shape. 305 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: There was really no off season program that was a 306 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: part time job. You you were in the four game preseason, 307 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: you kind of went into the era of Hey, starters 308 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: ain't playing, but you played for the Patriots, right, and 309 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: the Patriots the Patriots are a different animal, so guess 310 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: what you're gonna play. So what was it like then 311 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: to see your era of it where hey, we're kind 312 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: of crossing over into not maybe many starters are gonna 313 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: be playing in some of these games, to where you 314 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: were at where it's like, hey, it's preseason, this is 315 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: an opportunity. We're gonna get our reps and get our 316 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: work in. 317 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm still in the mindset that you always 318 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 5: better serve Kin playing football, and that even though these 319 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 5: practices are design for specific scenarios to work on red zone, 320 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 5: goal line and certain type of looks and all that 321 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 5: against another opponent, that certainly has helped. I still believe 322 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 5: that the best way to play football effectively to start 323 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 5: the season and to end the season is to build 324 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 5: that during the course of training camp in preseason football games. Now, granted, 325 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 5: there no one's gonna do what they used to do 326 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 5: and have guys play into the third quarter of a 327 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 5: preseason football game that day is certainly gone. But the 328 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 5: idea of guys at least playing a quarter or two, 329 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 5: I don't think that's bad suit because think about it. 330 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 5: The Kansas City Chiefs correct me if I'm wrong, Ken 331 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 5: Have they been a pivotal player in the last five 332 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 5: to ten. 333 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 4: Years in the Super Bowl? Yes? 334 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 6: They have. 335 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 5: And guess what they do with their starters. They play, 336 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 5: They play them in preseason football games. 337 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: They play them, and those starters want to play. So 338 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: I mean, they go out, they get their work done, 339 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: and I think they have great talent. But certainly it 340 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: has sharpened that iron for that football team to basically 341 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: dominate the AFC West. I think the Chargers might have 342 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: something for him later on this year. But certainly that 343 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: is a great franchise with Kansas City. I know it 344 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 3: starts with talent, but they've been a tough, tough team. 345 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 5: Right they certainly have. Ingranted there are multiple ways in 346 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 5: which you can have success, because one could make the argument, well, 347 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 5: look at the Denver Broncos. Look the forty nine ers 348 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 5: of the past. What did they do? They didn't even 349 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 5: have Pattock practices and they won Super Bowls, So there's 350 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 5: something to be said. Ultimately, it's about finding the structure 351 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 5: and the way in which you can get your team 352 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 5: to a space to where they can play football at 353 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 5: a high level. And I'm of the opinion Ken that 354 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 5: our football team needs to depart from obviously what took 355 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 5: place last year when we went three and fourteen, and 356 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 5: get to a space to where we're the toughest, the smartest, 357 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 5: and the cleanest football team. And I'm not talking about Jerseys, 358 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 5: I'm talking about how we play well. 359 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: We've known that they've certainly been going after it this 360 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: year in camp. Tackle under the ground almost unheard of 361 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: in camp, So it's certainly been a tougher camp so far. 362 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: And we'll talk a little bit about that with Joe 363 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: Thomas coming up here in just a moment. Also andrews cciliano, 364 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: the voice of Your Cleveland Browns. He'll be joined by 365 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: Jack Conklin. He talked to him after practice today at 366 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: the joint practice between the Cleveland Browns and the Carolina Panthers. 367 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: So that's coming up on the show and a time 368 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: honored tradition unlike any other, we will give the division 369 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: previews and we will go around the league. Usually Gerond 370 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: and I like to mix it up during that Folks 371 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: training campus here again. Kickoff to the twenty twenty five 372 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: season is just around the corner. You don't want to 373 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: miss a single play. Get your seats to your favorite 374 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: matchups today visit Browns dot com slash tickets. Not now, 375 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: but right now, get on over there to Browns dot 376 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: com slash tickets today. Up next, the Hall of Famer 377 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: the Legend Joe Thomas joins us. It's Ken carominen'ce Jeron Cherry. 378 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: We are getting you ready for preseason game number one 379 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: on the Cleveland Browns Preview Show presented by Tostitos, the 380 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: official chip and dip partner at Your Cleveland Browns on 381 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. 382 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Cleveland Browns Preview Show. 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Gerrod, before the Hoff 392 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: joins us here, you're going over a couple of names 393 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: that aren't any of the quarterbacks, Kenny Pigan, Dylan Gabriel, 394 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: Joe flakoshid Or Sanders obviously, and some of the names 395 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 3: that kind of go under the radar because we have 396 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: a four quarterback room that's healthy right now, and then 397 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: you add Tyler Huntley to it. We got five guys 398 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: that are healthy right now. But with that loss of 399 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: Martin Emerson Junior, last week with that Achilles injury, and 400 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 3: it was so unfortunate you and I mentioned a little 401 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 3: bit in the open of the show because he this 402 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: was gonna be a big year. This had to be 403 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: a big year for him. He's already going into year three, 404 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 3: year one, so good year two a lot was expected, 405 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: didn't really get off to the right start and kind 406 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 3: of play catch up the entire year. But now with 407 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 3: him out, and it's unfortunate to say, but now you 408 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 3: look at a guy like Cam Mitchell, who was a 409 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 3: late ron pick a couple of years ago. He steps 410 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: into a different role. Greg new somewhere you know his 411 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: future is always gonna be up in the air. He 412 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: steps into a different role. With those two guys, what 413 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: are those challenges that lay for them? When you're looking 414 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 3: at a defense that might play a lot of nickel 415 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 3: where you have denzol Ward on one side, He's still 416 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: have Grant Delpit as a safety. But now you have 417 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: a lott of pressure on Greg Newsom, who's a former 418 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 3: first round pick and a really young guy Cam Mitchell. 419 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 5: Well, what you're gonna have as teams say and try 420 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 5: to identify this guy's a weak link or we're gonna 421 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 5: see if he really is a week link because obviously, 422 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 5: when MJ's out there with Greg, you have one of 423 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 5: the more formerle secondaries in the National Football League alone 424 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 5: with Grant and Delpit. And what I think is is 425 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 5: more for the nickel back because we're gonna play more 426 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 5: and see more eleven personnel than anything, and that it's 427 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 5: gonna be impaired that Cam goes out there and flat 428 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 5: out just establishes himself that no come this way, and 429 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 5: you're gonna pay a price. And that really has to 430 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 5: be his add tune and his approach because they are 431 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 5: going to try him more so than anyone else. So 432 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 5: that's what I anticipate, is that Cam's gonna be the 433 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 5: guy which they're gonna try to go after first and 434 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 5: foremost and see if they can get some mismatches there, 435 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 5: because why would it make sense to even go Denzel 436 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 5: Ward's way, even though he's gonna be matched up obviously 437 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 5: with the team's best receiver. 438 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're really not gonna throw at twenty one two 439 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: very much. You're probably gonna throw out a couple of 440 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: those young guys there back there. And also Miles Harden 441 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: is on this roster, seventh round pick last year, who 442 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: really started to show some nice things during camp last season, 443 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 3: looking at that defense continuing because it looked like the 444 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 3: defensive line was very good. Alex right back healthy, got 445 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 3: a lot of good work in today against the Carolina Panthers. 446 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 3: But a couple of these rookies that we don't get 447 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: a chance to talk about. You know, Carson Swessinger, that 448 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: second round pick. A lot of people call him a 449 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 3: tackling machine. What may be expected for him because you know, 450 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: without Jeremiah Wusua Cooramoa this year, you're looking for not 451 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 3: just a guy who can run around, make plays, can 452 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 3: can kind of play that tweet er, maybe that dollar 453 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: type of linebacker a little bit, but also a guy 454 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: who can provide some leadership on the field. 455 00:19:59,080 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: Well, they've already. 456 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 5: And the amazing thing is is that he's been accepted 457 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 5: by the veterans on this squad and that he's calling 458 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 5: the players from the huddle, and I don't see the 459 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 5: guys looking at him sideways and not respecting his command. 460 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 5: You see guys out there appreciating the level of effort 461 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 5: and energy and insight that he's put into the game. 462 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 5: So as a rookie. He's certainly on the right track 463 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 5: and path of what he's doing and how he's establishing 464 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 5: his level of play on the football field. Because one 465 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 5: of the things which you do when you're out there 466 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 5: and you observe him ken you see he's sideline a sideline. 467 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 5: You see he's physical in his approach. And if you're 468 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 5: gonna be a mill linebacker in the National Football League, 469 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 5: you want that guy to be that type of description 470 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 5: that I just gave. And on top of that, nine 471 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 5: times out of ten these guys are undersized. He actually 472 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 5: brings something to it and you're gonna have to have that. 473 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 5: Who do we play against twice a year, Derrick Henry 474 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 5: So I love the fact that he has some size 475 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 5: and some girth about him. 476 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: Drid, you'rself right about that, and seeing the way that 477 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: he's able to play so far this year or so 478 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: far in this camp, it gives you a lot to 479 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 3: go off of and a lot to hope for coming 480 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: up during the twenty twenty five season. Let's go to 481 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: the hot line. Now we welcome in the Hall of 482 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: Famer one of the Browns all time great so, one 483 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 3: of the all time great guys, Joe Thomas joins us 484 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 3: right now on the Hotline to recap today's joint practice 485 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: to get you ready for Friday night, as well as 486 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: he'll be on News fives coverage of the first preseason 487 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 3: game of the year against the Carolina Panthers. Joe, thanks 488 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: for joining us tonight. 489 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for having me on. Guys. 490 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: First off, what were your impressions of the Browns sign 491 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: of things and maybe even a little bit of the 492 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: Panthers sign of things in this joint practice today. 493 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 6: Well, first, I'll say, I guess you can't really tell 494 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 6: too much from a joint practice because there's no game plan. 495 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 6: You know, oftentimes they got guys that are maybe sitting 496 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 6: out a little bit. There's some different tempos depending on 497 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 6: the type of camp you've had. But I can say 498 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 6: one hundred percent without a doubt that the Browns kicked 499 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 6: the Panthers booty today. I mean, it was complete domination. 500 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 6: The offensive and defensive lines for the Browns were utterly dominant, 501 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 6: from one on one pass rush all the way through 502 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 6: the team drills into the end of practice. Joe Flacco 503 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 6: made some great throws down the field to Jerry Judy 504 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 6: should where Sanders had some good moments, and so I 505 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 6: think overall, the Browns are feeling really good. Actually, I 506 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 6: know they were feeling good because I was sitting in 507 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 6: the meetings with him tonight and going through the film 508 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 6: doing a little coaching this week little guest spot, and 509 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 6: everybody was feeling themselves pretty good. So being able to 510 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 6: carry that over to Friday for the game, we'll see. 511 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 6: But at least today they had a great day and 512 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 6: they got some wins in the bank. 513 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 5: And Joe first and foremost, thank you for the beef sticks. 514 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 5: I took those bad boys home, chopped him up, put 515 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 5: him in some porking beans, and it was. 516 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 6: All baby, oh baby, you're welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it. 517 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 6: And a little new recipe for you Hall of Fame 518 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 6: beefstick clovers out there. 519 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 4: That being sent my min. 520 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 5: I saw you coaching up Dwan Jones, and obviously he's 521 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 5: a big guy and he has a lot of physical presence, 522 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 5: and I really appreciate the fact that he's demonstrative and 523 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 5: talkative to other teams and when we were playing, and 524 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 5: today I saw it with the Carolina Panthers in your 525 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 5: instruction to him, what are you trying to get. 526 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 6: Across Well, I think the first thing I want to 527 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 6: try to get to him is just try to help 528 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 6: him learn a process that works for him, right, because 529 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 6: that was such an important part for me when I 530 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 6: was trying to get myself a little bit better every 531 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 6: single game and every single year, and then looking back 532 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 6: on my career, I think a big part of it 533 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 6: was like I built a really good process and I 534 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 6: had some great veterans around me that kind of helped 535 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 6: me have that process and find something that works for 536 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 6: me where each day I can learn, I can be 537 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 6: critical myself and my performance, I can figure out ways 538 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 6: to build new goals to get better at something every 539 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 6: single day, and also just figuring out exactly, okay, if 540 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 6: it worked, great, let's do that again, only in maybe 541 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 6: with a different skill set. But if it didn't work, okay, 542 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 6: how am I going to get around this problem and 543 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 6: figure out a different way to attack it? And I 544 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 6: think being that I'm only going to be out with 545 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 6: the wand working with him for a short period of time. 546 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 6: Off at the line plays about learning a million things 547 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 6: and getting a million reps to be proficient at it. 548 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 6: But if I can teach him some basic prints, well 549 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,239 Speaker 6: some baseline understanding of biomechanics and a process of all right, 550 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 6: this is my checklist when I'm going to the line 551 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 6: of scrimmage. This is my checklist during the week. This 552 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 6: is my checklist and the practice. This is how I 553 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 6: critically evaluate myself so I can continually improve. Like that's 554 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 6: the best thing that I can do for him as 555 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 6: a player. 556 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: Was there a time where you might have talked to 557 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: him during the offseason, Joe, because he seems like a sponge. 558 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: I mean I talked to him last week out of 559 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 3: training camp, and you know, going back to last year, 560 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 3: he's like, you know, I'm not really left tackle, Kenny, 561 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: And then this year he's like, oh yeah, I was 562 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: definitely open to playing left tackle. Was there like a 563 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 3: was there something that went off in his head that 564 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 3: a light come on? Did he just decide, you know what, 565 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 3: maybe right tackle isn't it. Maybe left tackles it. I 566 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 3: can slim down, I could do things better, my footwork 567 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: can be better here. What was it during this winter 568 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: that changed him? 569 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 6: Well, Dwan and I actually talked quite a bit. I 570 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 6: mean he's a great guy. Like, as you know, Ken, 571 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 6: he's a sponge. He's a guy that just loves learning, 572 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 6: he loves growing. He's respectful and he can tell it's important. 573 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 6: And I think that's awesome because it makes him fun 574 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 6: to coach. And I'm not sure what the light bulb 575 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 6: moment was, but he's a guy that wants to be good. 576 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 6: He wants to be on the field, and you know, 577 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 6: he's a guy that loves NASCAR. And I just told him, like, 578 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 6: I'm not sure if you saw the contract that Rashaun 579 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 6: Slater just got as a left tackle, but you can 580 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 6: buy about fifty NASCAR race cars for the amount of 581 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 6: money that they're paying these left tackles these days. So hey, man, 582 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 6: if for nothing else, go do it for a big 583 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 6: contract it. Hey, you're a big man, you're extremely athletic, 584 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 6: you have a rare set of god given ability that 585 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 6: few humans that walk the faces of the earth have, 586 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 6: and you know what, at left tackle, they pay a 587 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 6: lot of money to do it. So I don't know 588 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 6: if that edything to do with it, but he's definitely motivated. 589 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 6: And the improvement that he made from Monday when I 590 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 6: worked with them today was really exciting because you could 591 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 6: see it, and then the cool thing is you could 592 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 6: hear it. Drod I'm not sure if you've heard how 593 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 6: vocal he can be sometimes, but all of a sudden, 594 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 6: you can tell when somebody's getting confidence in what they're 595 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 6: doing when they start yapping a little bit, they start chirping, 596 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 6: not necessarily trash talking the other team, but they're the 597 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 6: ones in that hottle telling the other guys let's go, 598 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 6: you know, holding them accountable. It's that voice that you're hearing. 599 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 6: And I heard that a lot from Dewan today and 600 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 6: that was really encouraging. 601 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: I knew I liked him for some reason. I knew 602 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 3: we got along for a reason here it is because 603 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: we both like NASCAR. Mike Bloomgrin. What does he bring 604 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 3: to the table. I was really excited about this hire, 605 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: this winner. 606 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was a great hire. It's been 607 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 6: really fun working with him. He's got a wealth of knowledge, 608 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 6: wealth of experience at all different levels of football, and 609 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 6: he's a guy that he really drills into the minutia. 610 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 6: And I think he's a very very detail oriented person, 611 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 6: which I think is really important for any offensive line coach. 612 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 6: And you can see it already. I mean, they to 613 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 6: me just started training camp. I know they've been here 614 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 6: for a couple of weeks, but it's not like they're 615 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 6: six weeks in like back in the day when you 616 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 6: had training camp that lasted forever. But you can already 617 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 6: see the guys have picked up on a lot of 618 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 6: detail of minutia and they're able to make checks and 619 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 6: corrections on the field that normally you're kind of expecting 620 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 6: a team to be well into the season before. They're 621 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 6: learning at that graduate type level and able to correct 622 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 6: any problems that they're seeing on the field. 623 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 5: And then Joe far As, last year, obviously the office 624 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 5: production was not there, and we're getting back to doing 625 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 5: things we did in the past. From the running game perspective, 626 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 5: what do you appreciate about, for example, your former teammate 627 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 5: Joel Potonio and what he can bring to the table 628 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 5: going back to what he does best of being a 629 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 5: pulling guard. 630 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you can tell the emphasis this year 631 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 6: is run the ball, play defense, take shots, and play action, 632 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 6: because that's been the emphasis. We had a red zone 633 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 6: period today where we were running the football. We were 634 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 6: smashing the ball up inside with traps, with guard pulled 635 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 6: crack GE's toss counters. It was really cool to just 636 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 6: see that physicality come back to the Kevin Stefanski offense 637 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 6: running the ball from under center, and the guys that 638 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 6: responded to I mean, you got two of the best, 639 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 6: most physical guards in football, you might as well use them. 640 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 6: And I think they're going to do that this year. 641 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 6: And you saw the dividends were being paid out there 642 00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 6: today already. 643 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: Joe, we can't thank you enough for the time. We 644 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: know you're very busy. We'll be watching you on News 645 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: five on Friday and we'll talk to you again soon. 646 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 6: Take care, Yeah, guys, have a great night. Thanks for 647 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 6: having me on. 648 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: The Hall of Famer. Joe Thomas joining us on the 649 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 3: hotline as the Browns gets set to take on the 650 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers, Browns fans enter the Dog Dash Sweepstakes presented 651 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: by Milkbone for a chance to have your pump compete 652 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 3: in the annual dog races during halftime of the Browns 653 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: Dolphins game on October nineteenth. 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Hey, this is 663 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: Grand Dope It. Hey this is mouth Care. 664 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 7: This is Joel Metonio, and you're listening to the University 665 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 7: Hospitals Cleveland Browns Network. 666 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: University Hospitals is your. 667 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: Hometown medical teams, official healthcare provider of the Cleveland Browns. 668 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 3: One of the very finest about of Michigan State by 669 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: way of Tennessee. Jack Conklin a veteran who's become a 670 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: tremendous hand for your Cleveland Browns. He's down with the 671 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns right now as they get set to take 672 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 3: on the Carolina Panthers. He participated in the day's group 673 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: practice between the Panthers and the Cleveland Browns, and the 674 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: voice of your Brons, Andrews Isciliano, sat down with Jack 675 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: after practice and the players spawnlight. 676 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: Jack Conklin, get to play against hit somebody different than 677 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: the guy wearing bright and orange. What was day one 678 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: out here? You avoided the rain and got didn't work 679 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: against the Panthers. 680 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. It's great. 681 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 7: You know anytime you get to you know, get a 682 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 7: new perspective, play against guys they even playing with all, 683 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 7: you know, week after week, and get some new experience, 684 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 7: played different front. It's it's all positive, it's all good stuff, 685 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 7: and it's it's really just a it's a fun experience 686 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 7: with the players. 687 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: And the one on one droll is fun as well, right, Yeah, you. 688 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 7: Know, it gets high intensity and attention here can you 689 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 7: can rise? But everybody was good. It was a good 690 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 7: effort by all the guys and they stayed clean. 691 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: The We talked about the change of scenery. Obviously you 692 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: face another team, but this is officially like the dog Days, 693 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: isn't it of training camp? 694 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely definitely. You know we're going into about week 695 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 7: three and you know we've been here. 696 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: That's the great part. 697 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 7: About these these joint practices. You start to get a 698 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 7: little frustrated with each other, the offense, defense on our 699 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 7: own team, and it's nice to be able to split 700 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 7: that up and play against another team and and uh, 701 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 7: I think it really just brings our team together. 702 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: How do you feel about the run game today? 703 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 7: You know, there's ups and downs. You know, playing a 704 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 7: different front is always an experience, you know, something we've 705 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 7: been playing against our defense, but we did a good job. 706 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 7: The effort was there, and there's there's definitely things clean up, 707 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 7: but that's part of camp. 708 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, and obviously working a bunch of different running 709 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: backs in there as well. It's really can you get 710 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: a feel on the run game in training camp or 711 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: do you need game action. 712 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 7: You can get a feel, you can get a field. 713 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 7: The game action definitely helps. But you know, we have 714 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 7: a pretty you know, experience offensive line. A bunch of 715 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 7: guys have played together for a long time. So really 716 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 7: for us, it's just you know, building building through camp, 717 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 7: and you know, everywhere I've been, the offense always takes 718 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 7: a little bit longer than the defense. During camp, we 719 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 7: just have a lot to install a lot of things 720 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 7: and it just takes some cohesion and building on reps 721 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 7: and we're doing that right now, and like you said, 722 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 7: we're in the dog days of that. So it's just 723 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 7: keep getting. 724 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 4: Better and better. 725 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: What do you think of coach Joe Thomas. 726 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 7: It's great anytime you can have a Hall of Famer 727 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 7: out there, you know, especially tackle to bounce things off of, 728 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 7: and have him in the meeting rooms watching film with you. 729 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,239 Speaker 7: Just the little pieces and details you can pick up 730 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 7: from Joe are fantastic and it's been really helpful. 731 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: What about him on the field, He's working with Dewand 732 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: a lot as well. 733 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: It's been great. 734 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 7: You know, it's been fun to see Joe coaching him 735 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 7: and just see the way the Wan's responding. Know, he's 736 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 7: taking the coaching and you can see him working on 737 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 7: stuff and it's been very helpful. 738 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 1: I assume you're not gonna play on Friday, and make 739 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: that decision right now on my own. That said, what 740 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: do you like as a veteran who's not playing, What 741 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: do you take from the preseason? 742 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: What do you look for standing there on the sideline. 743 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 7: For me, A lot of times, it's helping those younger guys. 744 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 7: You know, I was in that position at one point, 745 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 7: playing those preseason games, you know, all four and playing 746 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 7: a long time and just trying to give a little 747 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 7: tidbits to help them out, you know, maybe calling the 748 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 7: nerves or just help them with something they might see. 749 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 7: I think just being able to coach and be able 750 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 7: to talk about the plays and different techniques actually helps 751 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 7: me too. You know, I can help these guys and 752 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 7: it just reminds me of the different things and gives 753 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 7: me a new perspective. 754 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: We talked about that with the quarterbacks, like you guys 755 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: are taking mental reps as well. 756 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, and mental reps are you know, it sounds 757 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 7: everybody says, you know, mental reps are great and the 758 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 7: same as a competitive rep. And this kind of sounds cliche, 759 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 7: but it really is. Anytime you can see it and 760 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 7: see how everything's processed and see a different angle of it, 761 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 7: it definitely helps you. Hits you a different way. 762 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: Jack, looking forward to not seeing you on the field 763 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: on Friday. Go back in there and affoid their right. 764 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: Thanks man, awesome, thank you, two. 765 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: Time All Pro and playing well Michigan's own Jack Conchlan 766 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: and the players spotlight when we come back. Michael Parsons, 767 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 3: is he gonna get paid or get traded? And can 768 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 3: the Bills circle the wagons and the AFC East again 769 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: or do the Patriots have something for him? In twenty 770 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 3: twenty five, we preview the AFC and the NFC East. 771 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 3: Next coming up on the Cleveland Browns Preview Show presented 772 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: by Tostitos, the official chip and Dip partner of your 773 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. 774 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Cleveland Browns Preview Show. The Cleveland 775 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: Browns Preview Show is presented by Tostitos, the official chip 776 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: and Dip partner of the Cleveland Browns. This is the 777 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. 778 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 3: Brown's and Carolina Panthers doing battle on Friday night, seven pm. 779 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: Preseason Game number one. Will be on the air with 780 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 3: you at three pm with Brown's Game Day, Rod Cherry 781 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: and myself as we'll take you all the way up 782 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: to kick off seven pm at Bank of America Stadium. 783 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 3: Andrew Ciciliano, Nathan Zegura, Garrod Cherry'll be on the signline 784 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 3: for that one in Charlotte, North Carolina. So we usually 785 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 3: go around the leab, but during the preseason we like 786 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 3: to preview the AFC and the NFC and all the 787 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: things that are coming up during the season. Already out 788 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: of bone to pick with Jarrot already out of bone 789 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 3: to pick with Jirot because I previewed it and I said, hey, 790 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 3: is Michael Parsons is gonna get paid or traded? No reaction. 791 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 3: He's ready to go, He's ready to go to the 792 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 3: next sament. He's thinking about it already. And then I say, 793 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 3: can the Bills circle the wagon in the AFC East again? 794 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 3: Or do the Patriots have some? And Girrod looked at 795 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: me like I have lobsters crawling out of my mouth. 796 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 3: It is, Girrod, what has happened to Girrod? Sherry? What 797 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 3: I you know what I'm gonna say it my favorite 798 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: Patriot ever, three times super Bowl champ. And now all 799 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 3: of a sudden, the whole world is excited about the 800 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 3: Patriots possibly on their way back, this new exciting young 801 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 3: quarterback Drake May. And all of a Suddenrod just give 802 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 3: me the eye? Going on? I can you gave me 803 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 3: the eye? I go no, Gerard, you're up now. Hey, 804 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: you've been in Cleveland a long time. I know you 805 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 3: want what's best for the Browns, but you can't deny 806 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: your history. You're a tremendous player. You're a three time 807 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 3: super Bowl champ. I mean my goodness, gracious, what's mister 808 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 3: Kraft gonna say, My friend, you're giving me the a 809 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 3: over the future of the Patriots. 810 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 5: And Drake may well put this way. You know, I 811 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 5: got nothing but love from our former teammate and now 812 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 5: head coach Mike Vrabel of the New England Patriots. And heck, 813 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 5: he spent some time here traast year and he helped 814 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 5: us out. And heck we saw approval with the offensive 815 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 5: line player didn't reflect in the record, but we know 816 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 5: verbel can coaches, but off that part, we do know. 817 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 5: With that being said, though here comes, here comes, there 818 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 5: ain't no way. And you know what that the New 819 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 5: England Patriots are going to supplant the Buffalo Bills as 820 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 5: the pre eminent team in the AFC East. And yes, 821 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 5: Drake may show some promise last year, but I'm here 822 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 5: to tell you they're trying to recapture the Patriot way. 823 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 4: But it ain't no. 824 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 5: Recapture of the Patriots' way. It's just not gonna happen. 825 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 5: So I'm convinced they'll be an okay team because they 826 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 5: have a good head coach and he'll help them. By 827 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 5: the end of the day, it's the Buffalo Bills, and 828 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 5: that's it. Matter of fact, I could jump to question 829 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 5: number four and tell you only one team from the 830 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 5: AFCC East is gonna make it to the playoffs, and 831 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 5: that's the Buffalo Bills. 832 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 3: That nothing with Tua. 833 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 5: With the Dolphins, that is a sinking ship as well. 834 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 5: I happened to see Mike McDonald on an interview with 835 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 5: the NFL Network and I was just like, man, he 836 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 5: doesn't look like a happy camp at all. It's just something. 837 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 5: The vibe wasn't right. 838 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 3: I agree with you, it's they're in a weird spot yet. 839 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 5: Two in and Tarik talking about we need to rebuild 840 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 5: trust with three weeks of the preseason. You do is 841 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 5: then rebuild trust over the offseason. 842 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, that that needs to be done already. I mean 843 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 3: that you saw by their draft. I mean they tried 844 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 3: to get tougher. They they definitely just took it to 845 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 3: heart that they were weak. But I don't know, again, 846 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 3: culture's culture. I don't know if you could change it. 847 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 3: And much was expected of that Dolphins team. And now 848 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel finds himself under fire down there and kind of, 849 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 3: you know, he was kind of like the media is 850 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 3: darling there. Uh, and Hey, we've known Mike from his 851 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: time here in Cleveland. He's an affable young guy. But 852 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: at the same he seems like a young guy, but 853 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 3: he's you know, he's a little longer in the tooth 854 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 3: than what we make him out to because he's been 855 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 3: in the game for so long. He was a ball 856 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 3: boy for crying out low but uh yeah, it's what 857 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 3: was thought. Is kind of witty. Has worn a little 858 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 3: bit thin down there, and they need to get going 859 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 3: in the right direction because they've paid two a lot 860 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: of money. They're a team that definitely wants to make 861 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 3: the playoffs, and I don't know if they're gonna be 862 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: able to make it. I think that the Patriots can 863 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 3: be better. I'm trolling you with that question, I asked, 864 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 3: and you know that. But I think that they still 865 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 3: are a draft away. Drake May has to show for 866 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 3: another year that he could be the next big thing 867 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 3: and then he has to go ahead, and they got 868 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 3: to supplant with another draft and help out as well. 869 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree with you. 870 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 5: I agree with That's only one way you control me, 871 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 5: and you know that, and you can't even say it 872 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 5: no more because that's it's defending them now. We all 873 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 5: know who the goat is. We know he's ten times 874 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 5: better than Peyton Manning. That's the only way he emostly 875 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 5: respond to you. Ten times we have crossed that bridge. 876 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 3: He's better than Peyton Manning ten ten times, ten times 877 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 3: a little much, ten times a little much. I mean 878 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 3: time to Tom Brady is great quarterback, the greatest to 879 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 3: do it, but ten times little much. Now, come on, 880 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 3: all right, we know that Josh Allen is the best 881 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 3: QB in the AFCs. Who do you think is the 882 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 3: second best? Is it? Is it Tua? Is it Drake May? 883 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 3: Is it Justin Fields? With the Jets? 884 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 4: It's Tua? 885 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 5: It is Toa and again May has promise and and 886 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 5: Justin hopefully he recovers from his toe injury. But I'm 887 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 5: definitely gonna say Tula right now is that guy. And 888 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 5: hopefully he can stay up right and suffer from the concussions, 889 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 5: because if he does do that, hey, I don't think 890 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 5: the Dolphins have a chance. But I certainly think he's 891 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 5: the best, second best quarterback in the Seast by a 892 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 5: long shot. 893 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I want to disagree with you. 894 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a big Justin Fields guy, but I 895 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 3: think Justin Fields is the quarterback that everybody white likes, 896 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 3: but very few people actually want to start. And I 897 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 3: just don't know if if Justin Fields is going to 898 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 3: be able to carry the Jets through, because you know, 899 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 3: once you become quarterback of the Jets, that's a lot 900 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 3: of pressure on a guy. Drake may I again finished 901 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 3: off the season nice, there's promise there. I'm just not 902 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 3: ready to crown him the next time yet. I don't 903 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 3: know if anybody is gonna do anything like that when 904 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,479 Speaker 3: it comes to that. But hey, you know they're looking 905 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 3: for it. They're looking for lightning this straight two for 906 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 3: a long time. If the Packers can go forty years 907 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 3: with great quarterback play, you know, Patriots fans feel entitled 908 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 3: to a forty year run of their own. 909 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 4: Or they already missed that with the with with mac so. 910 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 3: Who gets paid first? Is it Terry McLaurin in Washington 911 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 3: or is it Michael Parsons in Dallas? Do either of 912 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 3: them get traded? 913 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 5: Uh? Neither gets traded, and it will be Parsons. I mean, 914 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 5: Jerry Jones is doing what he does because it's a 915 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 5: form of control and it's also a form of hype 916 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 5: and celebrity that he gets off of it. So it 917 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 5: will be Parsons for sure. McLarin he's in a bas 918 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 5: spot because he's over he's thirty. Yeah, and that's just 919 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 5: again they they're not paying a thirty year old receive 920 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 5: a lot of money unless he's and unfortunately he's been 921 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 5: there a long time. But he's not gonna get the 922 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 5: Mike Evans treatment that they did for Tampa Bay. He's 923 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 5: just not gonna get it. It is. 924 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 3: So you're so right, and it feels so unfortunate because 925 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 3: you know Mike. You you mentioned Mike. Mike's a Hall 926 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 3: of Famer, Mike Evans a Hack Famer, right, So, I 927 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 3: mean he was a guy who played who played with 928 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 3: Jameis Winston during their successful run. Then on the other 929 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 3: side of that, he played with Tom Brady. Obviously they 930 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl. He's part of playing with the 931 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 3: current quarterback that they have now, which they are a 932 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 3: playoff team every single year they win that division. Mike Evans, 933 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 3: They've seen a lot of success. I think Terry McLaurin 934 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 3: is arguably the most underrated wide receiver throughout his entire 935 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 3: career in the NFL. 936 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 4: And the reason why is with the commanders exactly. 937 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 3: But he ain't got it. He ain't got it like 938 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 3: mc evans got it. Let's be serious about that. And 939 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: following Terry mclaurin's career, it's almost where, Hey, you feel 940 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 3: bad in a way because now you're just getting the 941 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 3: recognition that I think he deserves. 942 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 4: Because you're playing money. 943 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 3: Yes, you're playing with a combat quarterback in Jayon Daniels, 944 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 3: but now you want the money. I think Michael Parson 945 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 3: is gonna get paid. I agree with you, But Jerry 946 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 3: Jones does Jerry Jones things or whatever. Raason just wants 947 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 3: to run the price up on himself. Who would you 948 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 3: rather have? Would you rather have elite neighbors or Garrett Wilson. 949 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 5: That's a heck of a question, because I'm. 950 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 3: Gonna say Garrett Wilson. 951 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 5: You go to say Garrett Wilson, we can go to the 952 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 5: Ohio State love. I can appreciate that. But neighbors, I 953 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 5: mean he did, so I'm gonna go with him. 954 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 3: Okay, one game winning drive? Who do you want a 955 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 3: QB Jalen Hurts, Jaden Daniels or Dak Prescott. 956 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 5: Oh, you gotta go with the guy who's got Super 957 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 5: Bowl Trophy in his in his mammal. 958 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 3: Real quick, and I mean real quick, is Jalen Hurts 959 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 3: the most disrespected quarterback of the NFL? Yes, I see, now, 960 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 3: we're just agreeing with each other too much. All right, 961 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 3: that's it. That's it for the preview of the AFC 962 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 3: and the Nfsee, so we got the same winners and 963 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 3: we have the same on there. I'm sure we'll fight 964 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 3: again next week, or at least we'll fight next week 965 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 3: because I don't have to troll you every single week. 966 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 3: Coming up next, we'll tell you about the Kevin Stefanski 967 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 3: Show on Thursday night and Browns Panthers Friday Night preseason 968 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 3: game number one. Coming up, It's the Cleveland Browns Preview 969 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 3: Show presented by Tostitos, the official chip and dip partner 970 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 3: of your Cleveland Browns, on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns 971 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 3: Radio Network. 972 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Cleveland Browns Preview Show. Cleveland Brown's 973 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 2: Preview Show is presented by Tostitos, the official chip and 974 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: dip partner of the Cleveland brown This is the University 975 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: Hospitals Cleveland Brown's radio network. 976 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 3: It's the Kevin Stefanski Show. Thursday night, seven pm. Nathan's 977 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 3: gera Girod Cherry. You're gonna be joined by coach Stefanski. 978 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 3: Is the Browns get ready to kick off the preseason 979 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 3: against the Carolina Panthers. Gerard, what are the things that 980 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 3: you might be looking for in this preseason game number 981 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 3: one on Friday night, my friend, Well, first. 982 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 5: And foremost, Ken, I'm looking to make sure on the 983 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 5: offensive side of the ball that the pre snap pilotes 984 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 5: are not a constant and that we are not jumping 985 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 5: off side, that we're lining up correctly, no illegal procedure 986 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 5: or anything of that note. If we have a minimum 987 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 5: amount of that, that's a success in my mind, because 988 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 5: it's a focal point. It's something that we struggled with 989 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 5: last year and defensively, getting back to a physical brand 990 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 5: of football where we're stripping the ball, we're taking away 991 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 5: the football, and if we can start making moves towards 992 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 5: that on the offensive side of what I just suggested, 993 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 5: with the defense getting the football back in Offens's hands 994 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 5: and the special teams being special and control and field position, 995 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 5: then I'm looking for that to start on Friday. 996 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 3: Well, I gotta tell you, you scared me like crazy when 997 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 3: you'd mentioned the pre snat penalties, that's something I want 998 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 3: to see them not be committing on Friday. That's probably 999 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 3: the worstyle feel. You know, if you turn the ball over, 1000 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 3: you turn the ball over. You got some young kids 1001 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 3: out there, what are you going to do? But when 1002 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,720 Speaker 3: it comes to the pre snap penalties, I want guys 1003 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 3: to know what they're doing out there. And yeah, I 1004 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 3: know that you're gonna have a lot of first year 1005 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,240 Speaker 3: guys and a lot of backups playing, but I still 1006 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 3: I want it to happen because I think that that 1007 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 3: got in a way so much in twenty twenty four 1008 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 3: and you don't need to have that happen in twenty 1009 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 3: twenty five. You can't let it happen in twenty twenty five. 1010 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 3: Friday Night, we Get You Started in the afternoon, three PM, 1011 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 3: Brown's Game Day myself at Geron Cherry, Five PM The 1012 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns Kickoff Show with Andy Basket and Tyvus Powell 1013 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 3: is back for this season. We love having Tyvis with us. 1014 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 3: And then seven pm kickoff from Bank of America Stadium 1015 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 3: in Charlotte, North Carolina Andrew Nathan and Jiron Getting You 1016 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,439 Speaker 3: sent for another season of Cleveland Browns Football, and don't 1017 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 3: forget the Kevin Stefanski Showursday night, seven pm. Nathan Zegura, 1018 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 3: Jerrod Cherry, Kevins Defansky, Brown's Panthers getting ready for the 1019 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five preseason to get going for the twenty 1020 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 3: twenty five regular season campaign. So make sure you're listening 1021 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 3: coming up Thursday night at seven And thanks as always 1022 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 3: to our executive producer Jason Gibbs and our producer Meredith Kane. 1023 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 3: For Gerard Cherry, I'm Ken Carme and thank you for 1024 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 3: listening to the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. 1025 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 2: You've been listening to the Cleveland Browns Preview Show. The 1026 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Preview Show is presented by Tostitos, the official 1027 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 2: chip and dip partner of the Cleveland Browns. This broadcast 1028 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 2: news our copyright of the Cleveland Browns and the National 1029 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 2: Football League. 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