1 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Saber Protection of iHeartRadio. I'm Annie 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Rees and I'm more on Vocal Bomb, and today we 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: have an episode for you about Cadbury. Yes, not a sponsor, Nope, nope, 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: just a very large chocolate tier and et cetera company that, Yeah, 5 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean so associated with Easter in the United States certainly, 6 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: and other places also, but perhaps to a lesser extent. 7 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: I feel like that is the brand's largest association here 8 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: in the US, and as Easter is coming up as 9 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: we record this, yeah, I was like, sure, let's do 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: this mammoth wild outline that I could have kept reading 11 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: for for another two days. Yeah, I mean that's a 12 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: good point, Lauren, because I feel like here in the 13 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: US Cadbury we know what it is. And I guess 14 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: I should say I'm speaking from my anecdotal perspective, but 15 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: we know what it is. But it's bigger deal in 16 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: other places. Yes, yes, yes, a much bigger deal than 17 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: I was anticipating. But yes, yes, I did write a 18 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: note in here my Easter thoughts all caps. Oh yeah, yes, 19 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: I've shared them before. I like Easter, I like Easter 20 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: egg hunting a lot. Okay, Um, I would say from 21 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: a very young age, I had my suspicions about the 22 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: Easter Bunny. But that's fine, hold on, hold on, hold on. 23 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: I need I need to I need to know more 24 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: about this um, specifically what kind of suspicions, because when 25 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: normal people say suspicions about the Easter Bunny, I assume 26 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: that they mean that he probably isn't real and that 27 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: that's your suspicion. But when Annie Reese says that, I'm like, 28 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: do you suspect that he's a vampire? Like, do you like, 29 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: like what kind of I just Thoughty, something something was amiss, 30 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: I see. But it was just funny because from very 31 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: very young I was all in on like the Tooth Fairy, 32 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: like all kinds of things, these mystical creatures, but the 33 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: Easter Bunny, from like the get go, I was like, mm, 34 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know about this. Yeah, yeah, 35 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: I did love the getting of the Easter eggs, which 36 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: my family was very big in and they had to 37 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: institute a rule around me because I was too eager 38 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: about it, and I would just like run ahead and 39 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: take all the Easter eggs and no one else would 40 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: get any in anyway. But as I said, with Halloween. 41 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm not the candy is not what I like. I 42 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: like the competitive gidding face. I would give away the candy, 43 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: you can have it. I don't care about that part. 44 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: So I'm not like Cadberry eggs, which is what I 45 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: associate with Easter, like the Cadburry cream eggs specifically. Yes, 46 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean I could probably count on two hands how 47 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: many times I've had that, Like I would just give 48 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: it away. I didn't. Wow, wasn't my thing, even though 49 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: I didn't dislike them. It just was like I was 50 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: more eggs. Okay, Um, I need yell to understand that, 51 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: Like if it's not, I think it's coming through on audio. 52 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: But but Annie's face is very um intense as she 53 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: is describing the fervor with which she yeah hunting down 54 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: these eggs. Um uh yeah, I don't. I don't know. Um. 55 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,559 Speaker 1: On kind of the flip side, if I ever attended 56 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: an actual Easter egg hunt kind of situation like an 57 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: out like a big outdoors one, which is I think 58 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: the kind that you're talking about. Um, I mean like 59 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: my my my parents would like hide Easter eggs around 60 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: the house. But that was but maybe like a like 61 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: a dozen or so like it wasn't a really big deal. 62 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: Um so, so I don't have that experience in my background. 63 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: Um and I do love a Cadbury cream egg. H 64 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: They're real weird just that goo is so not good 65 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: but like delight. I don't know. I can't eat like 66 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: a whole whole one in one sitting, certainly not anymore. 67 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: They're way too chigary for me now. But but now 68 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm They're one of the few like holiday candies that 69 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: I do still have like a pang of nostalgia for 70 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: when I see them in a shop, like like around 71 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: this time of year, I'm like, do I need to 72 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: buy myself a Cadburry egg? Um. For a long time 73 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: I did see. Now I'm wondering, are you talking about 74 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: like the because the ones I'm thinking of like imminent 75 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: peanut sized Oh not about the bigger ones. I'm talking 76 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: about the big ones. Oh okay, got you? Okay, yeah, 77 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: because I was like, you can't eat like the ones. 78 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: I got you either way, do what you need to do. 79 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: I just wanted to clarify. Oh yes, well, uh, you 80 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: can see our chocolate episodes. I think hot chocolate is 81 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: particularly relevant for this one. S Yes, we did talk 82 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: about Easter eggs. Yeah, we did a whole episode on 83 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: Easter eggs. We did. Yeah, But from what I understand, 84 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: we haven't done one on peeps. I know we've talked 85 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: about peeps. I searched it, and I don't think we 86 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: have done one. I thought we had, but you are 87 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: correct we have not. Wow. Wow, that's a year from now, 88 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: ye talking about peeps. I can't wait. Maybe, I mean, 89 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: I maybe it's one of those things that I looked 90 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: into briefly and there wasn't really that much there, and 91 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: I was kind of like, well, maybe we can do 92 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: Like I don't know, i'd have to I have no idea. Wow, 93 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: I think there's plenty to talk about, especially with the 94 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: microwaving of the peeps. Sure there's a lot we could 95 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: dig into. That's for future as though. Yeah, not a 96 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: problem for today. No, the problem we have for today 97 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: brings us to our question, I guess, and yes, Cadbury, 98 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: what is it? Well? Cadbury is a brand of mostly 99 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: chocolate based andies, confections and snacks that operates worldwide, perhaps 100 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: best known in the United States for their Easter themed 101 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: egg shaped chocolates, Their international product lines are wide encompassing 102 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: solid and filled chocolate bars and bites, and hot and 103 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: cold drink mixes and cookies, snack bars and snack cakes. 104 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: They are they are just massive. Um. They have multiple 105 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: sub brands, they have a theme park. They are one 106 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: of the largest chocolate brands in the world. It's like, 107 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: it's like if Willy Wonka were an extra century old 108 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: and had like really sold out. It's just for various 109 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: communities around the world. Cadbury is a daily, familiar, nostalgic 110 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: comfort food brand. Wow, I hope listeners right in about 111 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: this because this is not my experience, but I learn 112 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: doing this research it is experience of a lot of people. Yeah. Absolutely, 113 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: m yeah. Today they are owned by Mandola's International, which 114 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: also owns all kinds of other snack and candy and 115 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: drink brands, from like Rits and Triscuits, Crackerers to Sour 116 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: Patch Kids and Triednk Gum. Perhaps most applicably, they also 117 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: own Oreo, so you sometimes see co branding with Cadbury 118 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: and Oreo. And Cadbury's UK lineup is perhaps the widest. 119 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: It includes it's a savor list. It includes dairy milk bars, 120 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: which are your basic chocolate bar in flavors like I 121 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: don't know, plain, triple chalk, toffee, walnut, chopped nut, crunchy bits, 122 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: Oreo mint, Oreo, chocolate, biscuit and fudge, peanut, caramel, crisp, 123 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: and fruit nut, the fruit and nut being raisin and 124 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: almond in this case. Then dark milk and white and 125 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: Cara milk bars. Specialty bars like chump, Crunchy, Curly, Whorley, 126 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: double Decker, Flake, Picnic Twirl and whispa those I don't 127 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: know what most of those are. There's the sort of 128 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: fancier Bourneville line. Um. There are various buttons and bites. 129 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: There are cocoa and shake mixes. There are boxed chocolates. 130 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: They have brunch bars, which are granola bars, UM chocolate 131 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: chip cookies and brownies, sandwich cookies, fingers which are like 132 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: chocolate covered rods sort sort of like a like a 133 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: pocky kind of situation. Yeah, um, mini donuts and chocolate clusters. Also, 134 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: um fries bars, um chocolate cream, peppermint cream and Turkish 135 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: delight hooftah. Yes, and I think I'm missing a few 136 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: in there. If I've missed your personal favorite and you 137 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: are mad, uh, please please feel free to write in 138 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: In the US, Yeah, it's pretty much just those cream 139 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: eggs that I mentioned at the top, which are a 140 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: sort of I don't know, like like a golf ball 141 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: sized egg that's filled with like a fondant cream that's 142 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: colored in white and yellow to look vaguely like an 143 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: egg yoke. And it's one of those things that I 144 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: feel like the more you describe it, the more completely wild. 145 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: It sounds like like a like an alien, like an 146 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: absolute movie prop from a horror film. But yeah, there's 147 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: also come in chocolate cream flavors and they're carmel filled. 148 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: Then there are the mini eggs, which is what you 149 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: were talking about. These are like milk chocolate candy coated um. 150 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: They're similar ball shaped candies themed for fallen Christmas. They 151 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: now have the Carmellow brand under Cadbury. In the US, 152 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: we also get a small number of dairy milk bars, 153 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: a fruit and nut roast, Ammond Royal Dark, a couple 154 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: like limited edition sort of things. Australian India do have 155 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:56,359 Speaker 1: slightly wider ranges, but perhaps mostly also in like holiday 156 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: themed limited seasonal lines. Yeah, I get the idea that 157 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: outside of the UK it's more a holiday based brand. Um, yeah, 158 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: but but but y'all, y'all write in, write in and 159 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: let us know, yes, please please please, Well what about 160 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: the nutrition don't eat brands? M hmm, Yeah, I mean 161 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: this is like again insert random horror idea here, but 162 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: this is you know, Halloween three. You're watching the commercial. Yeah, yeah, 163 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: I stuck in your head. The mask is on your 164 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: face and you melt into a pile of bugs. And 165 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen that movie, well I recommend you 166 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: check it out. Like like the Cadbury cream egg, it 167 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: doesn't make a lot of sense and yet and certainly 168 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: you know it's bad for you, but like, but it's 169 00:11:54,400 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: still really pleasurable in a certain way. It is. Well, 170 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: we do have some numbers for you. Oh heck we do. Okay, 171 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: So Cadbury has manufacturing plants in at least ten countries. 172 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: Its products are available in at least forty countries. The 173 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: top three markets are the UK, Australia, in India. In India, 174 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: the sub brand Dairy Milk alone holds over forty percent 175 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: of the chocolate market. Wow. Yeah. Cadbury Worldwide was making 176 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: about three point nine billion dollars in net revenue a year. 177 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: As of twenty eighteen, and that number seems to be 178 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: have been going up. They were making about five point 179 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: seven billion as of twenty twenty two. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 180 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: Mandolas is the like either second or third largest chocolate 181 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: producing company in the world, right up there with a 182 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: Ferrero Group and Mars Wrigley. H They're okay, this this 183 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: is a this is a fun one. Um. There is 184 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: a Madbury Cadbury competition. I think once a year. I 185 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: think only in India. I couldn't track down information about 186 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: this happening in other places. But that doesn't mean it 187 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: doesn't y'all let me know. But okay, um that this competition, 188 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: let's let's participants choose from thousands of ingredients to make 189 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: a unique new dairy milk bar flavor. I read that 190 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: there are ninety thousand potential combinations, but I didn't check 191 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: their math. Um. I think this competition started in twenty 192 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: nineteen and there was an ad campaign for it for 193 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: which they rewrote modern major general like from Pirates of Penzance, 194 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: like like yeah, yeah, they recorded it with an eighteen 195 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: dude choir as it should Yeah obviously, Yeah, it's it's 196 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: pretty good. Huh. Yeah, it sounds excellent, and I am 197 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sing it for you today. 198 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't think so we'll see 199 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: what we'll see by the end of the episode. Maybe 200 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: I'll come around. Okay, we do have some world records. Uh. 201 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: Cadbury Nigeria produced a thirty meter tall inflatable made to 202 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: look like a jar of born Vita drink mix, which 203 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: is a brand of drink mix. Um. Uh So that 204 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: snagged a record for being the world's largest inflatable jar. 205 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: Huh yeah yeah um. Also the Guinness record for the 206 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: most Cadbury cream eggs eaten in one minute. It was 207 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: set in twenty fourteen. It's held by a fellow from 208 00:14:52,840 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: Canada and he consumed six in a minute. M M yeah, 209 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: well congrats, Yeah, yeah, congrats to that guy. I'm pretty 210 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: sure that that made me say out loud. Oh no, mmmmmm. 211 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: Well here's a fact that made me gasp audibly when 212 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: I was doing the research. Cadbury has a theme park. Yeah, 213 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: and it's called Cadbury World, and it has rides, It 214 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: has a Madam Twossod's Wax Museum, and it gets about 215 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand visitors a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They 216 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: have a museum with nearly two thousand bits of Cadbury memorabilia, 217 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: including packaging and marketing items dating back to the eighteen nineties. 218 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: You can go with your school. They offer a bunch 219 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: of different educational programs, including a science talk for key 220 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: Stage four students which is like ages of fourteen to sixteen, 221 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: and you can have afternoon TI with Cadbury characters. Cadbury 222 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: has characters um like the Caramel Bunny and Freddo the 223 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: Frog um and mister Cadbury's Parrot. Oh yeah, because of 224 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: course I looked up the menu. You got to okay. 225 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: For kids, the menu is finger sandwiches um with ham 226 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: or cheese or jam um, plus potato crisps, mini cakes 227 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: and fruit skewers um and a choice of hot chocolate 228 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: or juice. For adults, the menu includes a finger sandwiches 229 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: um like salmon and cream, cheese, ham and mustard and 230 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: cheese and pickle, plus cakes, scones, macarons, and a choice 231 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: of hot chocolate coffee or an assortment of tea. Well 232 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: it sounds lovely, you know. I have to say. Having 233 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: no nostalgia for any of these characters. They look terrifying 234 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: to me. Oh, I can't wait to look them up. 235 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: Then hit. It feels very silent Hill three to me personally. 236 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: Oh oh, Robbie, they're rabbit. Yeah yeah, but I mean 237 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: but not covered in blood. I mean they're you know, 238 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: perhaps Okay, Well, I cannot wait to look that up. Then, um, 239 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: I love how it's like you and I are on 240 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: such a track that we take it silent Hill three. Yeah, 241 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: that that's just where we're going to go with it. 242 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: Very specific. But there we there, we are, there, we 243 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: are there, we are Robbie the Rabbit if you know, 244 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, um whoa. We do have quite the history 245 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: for you, we do. But first we have a quick 246 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: break for a word from our sponsors, and we're back. 247 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, yes, thank you, so yes. As we mentioned 248 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: at the top of the episode, go check out the 249 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: episodes we've done on chocolate, particularly hot chocolate, perhaps very 250 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: relevant to this. So the history of the Cadbury Company 251 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: goes back to the early eighteen hundreds, back when manufacturers, 252 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: especially in Europe, still weren't entirely sure what to do 253 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: with cacao from South America, which is what we talked 254 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: about in that hot chocolate episode specifically because generally speaking, 255 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: at that time, it was used to make sort of 256 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: a bitter, sort of oily, health to drink. At least 257 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: in Europe, it was kind of promoted or touted as 258 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: a health drink, mostly because that's all people knew how 259 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: to do with it. We really didn't have the technology 260 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: to do anything else with it at that point. So, 261 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: with that health aspect in mind, the Cadbury family, who 262 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: were Quakers, attempted to use this basis of cacao to 263 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 1: make a nutritious alternative to alcohol. Yes, so their product 264 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: was part of something that family member Deborah Cadbury would 265 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: later go on to call Quaker capitalism. She wrote this 266 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: the whole book about Cadbury and their origins of it, 267 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: and I use a lot of that in here, so 268 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: keep that in mind. Yeah, and Quaker capitalism is a 269 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: whole whole thing. Yeah. Well, we'll get into it a 270 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: little bit, but please continue, Yes, Chess. According to her, 271 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: Quaker capitalism, which we will be talking about throughout this 272 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: was it basically meant like putting the idea of helping 273 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: people first and profits second. It also meant things that 274 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: to me read like of course, but yeah, definitely. At 275 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: the time we're not given but things like Saturday's off 276 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: pensions benefits, free visits to things like doctors, which still 277 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: is not a thing form. But yeah, eventually, again according 278 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: to Cadbury, they wanted to extend all of these things 279 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: to the community at large, community that was working with them, 280 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: which manifested in so called Quaker utopia towns. And one 281 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: of the earliest of these model villages was Bourneville, located 282 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: just south of Birmingham in England, and it was first 283 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: set up in eighteen ninety three. So that's where like 284 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: their original headquarters is. But let's unpack that a bit. 285 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 1: So Cadbury details, as I said, the origin story in 286 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: her book, and as she tells it, in the late 287 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: eighteenth century, one of her ancestors, who was named Richard 288 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: Tapper Cadbury, an English draper, sent his youngest son John 289 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: to study a new arrival in Europe that was causing 290 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: a lot of conversation cacaw. Yeah, so they were like, oh, 291 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: what can we do with this? And of note, they 292 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: were a wealthy Quaker family, so Richard believed that cacao 293 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: could be the solution to these who indulged in things 294 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: like gin like an alternative to alcohol, and that it 295 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: could be used to make this nutritious, non alcoholic beverage. 296 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: That could just like going back to that Quaker capitalism 297 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: where it would really solve a problem. And yeah, it 298 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: would be a sealthy thing, an improvement in people's lives exactly. 299 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: So in eighteen twenty four, John opened a small shop 300 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: selling drinking chocolate and cacao just in general. In eighteen 301 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: thirty one he decided to focus more on the manufacturing 302 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: of these things and kind of made a small factory 303 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: to do that. Okay, here's another thing I didn't know. 304 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know, but in eighteen fifty four, Cadgory received 305 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: a royal warrant to be the official manufacturers of chocolate 306 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: and coco for Queen Victoria. Yeah, the royal warrant system 307 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: is a whole thing that we could get into. We're 308 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: mentioning it like one other time, but but I think, yeah, 309 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: that that's for another day. Basically, Yeah, like like you 310 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: get to put the Royal seal on your packaging and 311 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: it's it's it's really great marketing. We're not depending on 312 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: how much people like the rolling monarch. I don't know 313 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: also true, also true. Yes, Um, all right, So when 314 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: John's health was struggling, his son's Georgian Richard, took the 315 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: chocolate business over and they really flipped it into a 316 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: success with milestones like purchasing a Dutch coco press, which 317 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: we've talked about, and launching what they called coco Essence 318 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: in eighteen sixty six. This is like around the time 319 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: they were doing chocolate solids that you could buy with 320 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: spices in them for the first time. Yes, and they 321 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: did all of this while taking on local chocolate competitors, 322 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: including and perhaps especially local Quaker competitors that were also 323 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: in the chocolate busines. So Deborah Cadberry's book is it 324 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: focuses a lot on this is what the Chocolate Wars 325 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: is they're called as she called them. And yeah, it 326 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: did matter because there is a whole set of business 327 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: ethics associated with Quaker capitalism and this is a whole 328 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: practice that has been in place since the Civil War. 329 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: These ethics have been voted on regularly since and it 330 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: has a lot to do with wealth creation. Again, that's 331 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: a different podcast, but it is related to what we're 332 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: talking about. The idea was that wealth creation shouldn't be 333 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: for profit but for the good of the workers. As 334 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: we said, reckless debt was viewed as shameful. Advertising was 335 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: also viewed as shameful. Yes, But the twentieth century saw 336 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: the beginning of these chocolate wars, as Debbrook Cabaret called them, 337 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: that eroded Quaker capitalism in this realm at least. And 338 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: this was in part due to increasing globalism and international competitors, 339 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: increasing trade, improving technology, new players in the fields. And 340 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: it did lead to a lot of these Quaker capitalists 341 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: either going out of business or adapting their form of 342 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: capitalism without the Quaker part as much. Yeah. Yeah, And 343 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: a piece of this whole thing was the passing of 344 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: these businesses from their Puritan owners to public shareholders. It's 345 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: you never know where the research once again, Wow, okay, 346 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: I did not know we would be talking about Quaker 347 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: capitalism in here. Yes, well we are ye. In nineteen 348 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: oh five, Cadbury released their Cadbury Dairy Milk. They first 349 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: used their trademark Shade of Purple in nineteen fourteen, and 350 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm not being figurative about that trademark. More on that later, 351 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: More on that later. And in nineteen fifteen they released 352 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: their milk tray line of box chocolates, and I got 353 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: kind of confused by this, but some sources also suggest 354 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: that they were behind the first heart shaped boxes like 355 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day heart shaped boxes that were first introduced in 356 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: the eighteen sixties. From what I read, and according to 357 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: what I read, the company wanted to use up any 358 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: leftover cocoa butter from their other products, and they leaned 359 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: into the idea of shareable products. They could mark it 360 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: as romantic, and the boxes featured all kinds of imagery 361 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: that we associate with Valentine's Day today, like flowers and Cupid. 362 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: That seems pretty early to me, but that's what the 363 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: sources say, all right, yeah, yeah, anyway, speaking of holidays, 364 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: the Cadburry cream egg all right, so the company was 365 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: not the first to manufacture chocolate Easter eggs. They these 366 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: chocolate Easter eggs started appearing in Germany and or France 367 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: at the start of the nineteenth century. J. S. Fry 368 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: and Sons Limited, which was a major competitor, which was 369 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: a major competitor of Cadbury and another Quaker capitalist company. 370 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: They were the first to offer a mass produced option 371 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy three, but Cadbury began making their own 372 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: versions soon after in eighteen seventy five, and theirs came 373 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: with this colorful foil wrapping that really set it apart. Yes, 374 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: so they became the preferred chocolate egg for Eastern A 375 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: lot of people think it's because of that colorful wrapping, 376 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: So there you go. Marketing it matters. So this is 377 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: one of those things I read in a bunch of 378 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: places and I was kind of like, huh, because I've 379 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: never experienced a Cadbury flake bar, but cad Berry flake 380 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: bars were allegedly invented via manufacturing accident in nineteen twenty. 381 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, just kind of it's interesting looking. 382 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: I would love to hear more about it. When people 383 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: are bad what what? What is it? What is it? Described? 384 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: Describe what? I don't know. I don't know what this is. 385 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: It kind of looks like, to me, like a butterfinger, 386 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: but without the like it's like the middle part of 387 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: the butterfingers just chocolate, Okay, like flakes of chocolate that 388 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,959 Speaker 1: almost look like chips. I don't know. It's hard to describe. 389 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: I've never seen it, but like I said, it came 390 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: up in a lot of the research and I guess 391 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: it's very popular, probably making people angry if they're listening 392 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: to this. Yeah, that's not quite what we should dive for. 393 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: But we do love hearing strong opinions, so please write 394 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: it all right. So Cadbury merged with J. S. Fry 395 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: and Sons to compete with round Tree, another Quaker capitalist 396 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: business in the chocolate industry, in nineteen nineteen. Yeah, and 397 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: Cadbury and Fry were a powerhouse. Like By nineteen thirty 398 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: they were not merely Britain's largest candy maker, they were 399 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: also the twenty fourth biggest company in the country by 400 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: stock market value. By nineteen thirty five, they were the 401 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: twenty ninth largest employer in the country. Wow. Yeah. In 402 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty three, they released the first cream filled chocolate 403 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: eggs whoop okay. Yes. They opened their first overseas company 404 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: in Tasmania, Australia in nineteen twenty one, and then another 405 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: in New Zealand in nineteen thirty. Allegedly Cadbury in part 406 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: inspired Charlie and the Chocolate Factory because they would send 407 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: samples for kids to try at author Roald Dalls School. 408 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: In nineteen twenty nine, the brand launched in India in 409 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: nineteen forty eight, though I don't think it really got 410 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: big there until like new advertising pushes happened in the 411 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties and early two thousands. Yeah, And speaking of 412 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: advertising pushes, with more widespread access to televisions for the 413 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: general population, Cadbury started advertising on TV in the mid 414 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties. In nineteen fifty five, Queen Elizabeth the Second 415 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: granted Cadbury her own royal warrant. It was like one 416 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: of the first that she granted, so it's one of 417 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: the ones that was held for the longest after her 418 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: recent death, though it is unclear whether Charles is going 419 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: to renew it. Interesting, Okay. In sixty three, they released 420 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: the style of cream egg that we know and some 421 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: of us love contentiously love today. It was under the 422 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: Fry's brand originally, but then would be rebranded Cadbury in 423 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one. Freddo the Frog, meanwhile, was first created 424 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: in Australia back in the nineteen thirties by rival brand, 425 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: but the brand was bought out by Cadbury in nineteen 426 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: sixty seven. So this is this is not a Freddo 427 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: the Frog episode. Oh my, I just wanted to put 428 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: that in there. Yeah, of course it's important. I can't 429 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: wait to look this up. You know what else? This 430 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: reminds me of five nights at Freddy's. Oh sure, yeah, 431 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: oh my, oh my own mine. Well. Cadbury merged with Schwepps, yes, 432 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 1: that one, in nineteen sixty nine. They would demerge in 433 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. In the nineteen nineties, they have 434 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: to mention this, the company released the Spice Girls dairy 435 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: milk bar. The packaging is glorious. You have to look 436 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: it up. That's it, okay, as asked, Sure, but this 437 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: brings us to a lot of legal stuff, not about 438 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: the Spice Girls. But no, not to they no, all right, 439 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: So Lauren mentioned this color purple earlier in two thousand 440 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: and four, Cadbury attempted to trademark this purple color that 441 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: they had been using with their advertising. They said that 442 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: they used it to honor Queen Victoria, that they've been 443 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: using it for almost two centuries. Nestlee, Yes, that one 444 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: countered them, arguing it would qualify as quote commercial advantage. Okay, yeah, 445 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: and the ensuing legal battle lasted for four years when 446 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: the judge eventually sided with Cadbury, but Nestley was not 447 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: done and brought the whole thing back to the Court 448 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: of Appeal and one on what sounded to me like 449 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: a technicality. They're kind of like you didn't fill out 450 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 1: the form. This This would wind up going back and 451 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:13,719 Speaker 1: forth through various courts of appeals until twenty twenty two. Wow. 452 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: And honestly I don't understand enough about trademark law to 453 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: explain it properly, but in the end, yes, Cadbury was 454 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: allowed to trademark this particular shade of purple using particular language. 455 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: The exact shade of purple is a pantone to six 456 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: eight five C in case that means anything to anyone, 457 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: And according to some law blogs that I read, the 458 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: ruling has brought clarity to UK color trademark law. So wow, 459 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: thanks Cadbury's and Nestley for fighting it out UK colored 460 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: trademark Well yeah, okay, well other legal things. In two 461 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, Craft Foods launched a very fraught and 462 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: very public effort to purchase Cadbury, and there was a 463 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: bidding war with Hershey. It was not pretty, and Cadbury 464 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: was purchased for less than what they asked for though 465 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: it was still nineteen billion dollars okay, yeah, but many 466 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: viewed it as the loss of the last independent British 467 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: chocolate company. Yeah. Craft didn't really help the situation because 468 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: they like immediately made some really controversial decisions, like like 469 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: the closing one of the long running factories in England 470 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: to move work overseas. So right, and the public pushback 471 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: in Britain was so strong that lawmakers introduced new laws 472 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: to prevent the foreign takeover of local businesses. I think 473 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: some of them were dubbed like the Cadbury Law just 474 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: popularly yeah sure um. Interestingly, UM, the purchase did lead 475 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: to the to the merging of like all Craft Confectionery 476 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: research into the Cadbury Science Center in Redding. Yeah um, 477 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: from which was born in twenty eleven, UM a patent 478 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: for temperature resistant chocolate which can stay solid in conditions 479 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: up to one hundred and four degrees fahrenheit. Oh yeah yeah. 480 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: In twenty twelve, Cadbury was the official treat provider to 481 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: the London Olympics. Okay, uh huh. And and that same 482 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: year the UM, the the international snack and confection side 483 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: of Craft, split off to become Mandolas International UM, of 484 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: which Cadbury is a subsidiary UM here in the United States, 485 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: though Cadbury is licensed through Hershey's hoof, yeah, hoof. When 486 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: you pitched this idea, you did tell me this is 487 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of legal drama. You're right, yeah, yeah, 488 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: it's I mean, these these these these business episodes are 489 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: always really fascinating in a way that is completely opposite 490 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: of the type of fascinating that I think most most 491 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: of our episodes are. It's like, hold on, let me 492 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: get through some dry legalize now. But oh but still 493 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: like there's drama. It's great, it's great. I mean, trademarking 494 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: color of purple. That's amazing and right in an eighteen 495 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: year battle to do so what I mean, Wow, I 496 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: mean it's a it's a nice shade of purple. It 497 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: is it is. I really like it. Yeah. M ah well, well, indeed, 498 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: all right, Annie is saying that because I have pasted 499 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: in the lyrics to this modern major General rewrite for 500 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: the commercial. So all right, let's let's see how far 501 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: I get. Okay, let's add a little basil, apple, coconut 502 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: and licorice. We're mixing, rolling, poking, slopping, dipping, giving it 503 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: a squish, take handfuls pinches, dollops, golops and glugs and 504 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: throw them in the dish. From cinnamonto teragon and almost 505 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: anything you wish, gummies, berries, lemon, grass, or even something 506 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 1: spicy ish a chocolate lick concoction that we all agree 507 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 1: is quite delish. Now each and every person nationwide is 508 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: going Madbury. Let's ponder and invent as scrumches dairy milk 509 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: for Cadbury. WHOA, yeah, collapsuf, that was amazing. Well, well, 510 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: thank you for sure, You're welcome, and I'm sorry. Uh no, 511 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: there we go, uh so, yeah, yeah, that was a 512 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: whole thing that happened. It keeps going. The song continues 513 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: to go, I am not an eighteen dude choir, so 514 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: so I'm not and I'm honestly really shaky on on 515 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: the actual melody of that song as it turns out. 516 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: But but that is what we have to say about 517 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: the Cadbury Company for now. Oh now, but we do 518 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: have some listener mail for you. But first we have 519 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: one more cupak for a word from our sponsor. And 520 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you, And we're 521 00:37:51,040 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: back with easter bunny that free, But what were you 522 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: concerned that he was going to take the eggs back? 523 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: Like what I thought it was all a big trick. 524 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: It was some kind of he was messing with my 525 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: mind in some way. Were you upset that the bunny 526 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: was laying eggs? That did confuse me? Okay, confuse me, 527 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: But I was more like, he shows up, he leaves 528 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: these eggs about, and I'm not sure why. Na, I'm 529 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: gonna go find him open him up. It felt kind 530 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: of like when you, like like in D and D, 531 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: were like, oh, gold, but you gotta question why why 532 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: it's there. Yeah, there's gonna be some kind of negative 533 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: effect if you just take that gold. Okay, but you 534 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: weren't worried about this with like Santa or the tooth Fairy. No, 535 00:38:54,920 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: it was specifically the Eastern Bay, all right, now? Cool? Yeah? Yeah, sure, yeah, 536 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: you know something to examine later about my mind my processes. Sure, yeah, 537 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: yeah that that is certainly something that I cannot currently 538 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: unpack for you. So I understand I've been I mean 539 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: clearly I'm still thinking about it because all caps at 540 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: the top of our outline. Yeah, well, I'll deal with 541 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: that later in the meantime Arc Wrotes, who has been binging. Yeah, 542 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: finally caught up. Looking back, the Joy of Cooking made 543 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: me think about cookbooks that are common. I've never had that, 544 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 1: but I've had a better homes and gardens for almost 545 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: thirty years, really well worn. I have a feeling if 546 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: you went through the US and looked, if someone doesn't 547 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 1: have Joy of Cooking, they probably have the better homes 548 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: and gardens. Cookbooks in general are just so interesting. My 549 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 1: youngest got me a copy of I Dream of Dinner 550 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: so you don't have to for Christmas, and it sounds 551 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: kind of like the Joy of Cooking. It has a 552 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: lot of stories around things. It does take some getting 553 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: used to. While it has a list of ingredients to 554 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: the side, it does not have the amounts. This forces 555 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: you to read through the instructions to get the amounts. 556 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: In a way, this is a good thing, as you 557 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: have to read the whole thing. Cookbooks in general could 558 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: be a whole series. There are so many cookbooks out 559 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: there that people love. We have a beat up copy 560 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: of the Super Steeler Cookbook that we use as well. 561 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: On a different note, I'd love to see a combination 562 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: show at some point with one of the ridiculous shows. 563 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: I can only imagine how much fun that would be. 564 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: Might as well also loop in the stuff they don't 565 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: want you to know folks as well, since it is 566 00:40:52,080 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 1: only one more. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been I've 567 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: been on Ridiculous History a couple of times talking. I 568 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: think I talked about butter in the early days, like 569 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: I dropped some butter facts and then kind of vanished. 570 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: I think, like you did nestly, didn't you do? Oh 571 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,760 Speaker 1: um over on stuff they don't want you to know. Yeah, 572 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: I I talked about bottled water um and uh and 573 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: also about diamonds, which are two things that make me 574 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: very angry. So that was fun. Uh, I did I've 575 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: been on I think I've been on Ridiculous History twice 576 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: and stuff they don't want you to know once. But 577 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: I I mean, yeah, I've been. Bolen of course loves 578 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: talking about food. He's constantly giving us ideas, so down, 579 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm down. There's a lot of conspiracies around food. Sugar, 580 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. I I've 581 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: pitched to them an episode about about the miracle berry 582 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: drama that happened and like big Sugar and how like 583 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: maybe that guy almost got assassinated by Big Sugar for 584 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 1: producing a product that can make tart things taste sweet 585 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: without sugar. Yep, I mean we're here, they know where 586 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: to find us, we know where to find them, you know. 587 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean do we do that's true yours? Or it 588 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: gets crazy? And also yes, as we've been talking about 589 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: in a lot of past previous episodes, I think you're right. 590 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we could do a whole many series on cookbooks, 591 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: but I love these kind of like if you go 592 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: to every other house, there will be one of this 593 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: or one of this or both of this, and your 594 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: kind of church cookbooks or your local community cookbooks. Yeah, 595 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: totally do. I do have a number of Better Homes 596 00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: and Gardens cookbooks in my personal collection. Yes, some of 597 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: them are just so especially the like yearly ones that 598 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: they were putting out for a while. I don't know 599 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: if they still do or not, but they're just such 600 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: a specific moment in time. And I really love food 601 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: photography from cookbooks because whole it's it is stylistically telling 602 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: about what was going on at the time. Yes, in 603 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 1: addition to the recipes that they choose to feature, it's 604 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: like wow, that is not something that we would print 605 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,959 Speaker 1: a photo of these days, certainly not in that CPIA tone. 606 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: But okay they are. They're a snapshot. As we said, yeah, 607 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: what's going on? Zach wrote, I was so excited to 608 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: hear your episode about Brunos, as it reminded me of 609 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: one of my favorite memories about my dad. He was 610 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: in the National Guard and in the early nineties he 611 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: spent some time stationed in Norway working with NATO at 612 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: the Norway Russia border. For a long time, I thought 613 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: the only souvenirs had brought back a reindeer skin and 614 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: a couple of troll statues. My dad also has an 615 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 1: incurable sweet tooth and consistent midnight cravings. One night, when 616 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: I was in my teens, I woke up to the 617 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: sound of him digging around in the kitchen. Imagine my 618 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: surprise when I found my dad squirting Hershey's chocolate syrup 619 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: into a bowl of freshly grated craft cheddar cheese. He 620 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 1: told me that he woke up craving a cheese he'd 621 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: had decades ago in Norway and this was the closest 622 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: he could come up with to simulate it. He called 623 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: it a yet tost yet tost I think, which I 624 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: would later come to learn is the goat milk variety 625 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,479 Speaker 1: of brunos. After I went to college in a larger town, 626 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: I was able to find Ski Queen brunos at a 627 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 1: Kroger cheese counter, and my dad has had a block 628 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: of brunost on hand ever since. As for the chocolate 629 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: cheese concoction, as bad as it sounds, I'll just say, 630 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: don't knock it till you try it. I won't you 631 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,479 Speaker 1: won't knock it, or you won't try it. I won't 632 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: knock it. I bet I can see it working. I 633 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: used to make a kind of Again, it sounds like 634 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: something that wouldn't work, but I would make like this 635 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: grilled cheese that had bree and chocolate in it, and 636 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: it was really good. Okay, so no I'm into it. 637 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, no, I'll try pretty much anything. Yeah 638 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: me too, Me too. I And this was lovely, lovely memories. 639 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: I I looked for brunos last time I was at 640 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,879 Speaker 1: the grocery. Sorry you didn't see it. But I feel 641 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: like because I have recently been on a really big 642 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: Indian food kick. I think I mentioned that recently, and 643 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: I've been looking for Pineer for forever, and it was 644 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: right in front of my eyes the whole time. So 645 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 1: sometimes I think you just need to see like the 646 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 1: packaging of the cheese. So maybe I'll look up like 647 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,399 Speaker 1: some of the big brands, and then I'll have an 648 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: image in my head. Yeah yeah, but I'm on the look. 649 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: I'll look out. I feel like, yeah, it might not 650 00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: be in like in like common like American branded groceries stores, 651 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: but it might show up in more like a like 652 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: an Aldi situation, or maybe like a whole food situation, 653 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: like something with like a slightly more international cheese counter. Okay, 654 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 1: all right, I think I could make this happen, hope 655 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: do I Oh yeah, I'm sure that I will. I'm 656 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: sure that I will. 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