WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Scramble-Mode 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.400 The following he's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:18.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.200 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:36.440 Star in Frisco. Following the line says, It's a Tuesday 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.880 edition of Talking Cowboys here from the SWBC Mortgage Studios 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:45.440 at the Star in Frisco. And this is gonna be interesting. 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.720 How about that it's a new week, it's a bye week, 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.720 and because of that, it's not the same crew as 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.720 normal here on Talking Cowboys. No Isaiah, no, Heck Mount, 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.760 no Rob. You can catch those guys throughout the rest 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.480 of the day on various shows. But man, we've got 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.560 a treat for you. How about Nick Eatman and Nate 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.959 Newton on the same podcast with myself, Kyle Yeoman's and 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:13.160 in this thing the moon it Hey, any idea what 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.280 Nate Newton is gonna be bringing. Let's see, how about 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.080 the truth? The truth? I know what truth? I know 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.880 what y'all interrupted, y'all. I know what y'all interrupted, because 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:24.960 at nine third I used to have a big black 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.720 coffee and after that I have a something else. All right, 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:30.800 y'all interrupted that? Well, I don't know, I don't know. 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:34.640 I'm I really want to and I'm sorry. He's a 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.039 big he's a big make a deal or what is it, 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.280 let's make a deal fans watching the showcase showdown or 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:45.319 what He's big entertained, that's what it is. Yeah, it's 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.520 called his hers and I go to his Oh no, 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.600 all right, well Nate's already, he's awake, and I hope 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.920 you're awake because didn't know there was a time for that. 0:01:55.720 --> 0:02:00.640 All right, let's roll. So, yes, Nick eat Men and 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.320 Kyle Yoman's these two have more combined experience around the 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.320 Cowboys than I've been on this earth in terms of years. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.600 So there's a lot of a lot of fun to 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.600 be had and a lot of knowledge to be shared. 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.520 And we'll start this off. Hold on, let me just 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:20.040 clarify there. One guy has actually played like fifteen years 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.280 in the trenches, one Super Bowls and then the six 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.120 Pro Bowls, and the other guy's just sitting there on 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.560 the sidelines there sometimes getting pushed by that guy. But 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.880 either way, like like combining the two it seems a 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:31.440 little bit different. But I get it. I know what 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:33.320 you're saying. I heard there was a story about you're 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.880 a great historian. You're a great historian. Do okay, thank you, 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.560 I'll take that. Is that good? That's good enough? Hey, 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.080 whatever about the cowboys, he knows everything, I promise about 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:47.359 the cowboys. You do well, he does know that also, 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.880 Trayvon Diggs, big news this morning in terms of the 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.680 cowboys who just cannot catch a break over the past 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.600 twenty four hours. Because even when we recorded this show yesterday, 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.960 Tyler Biadesh news wasn't out just yet. But now Tyler 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.240 Beotish out two to three weeks at the most minimum 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.440 really for Beotish because of the hamstring injury that he 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.160 suffered prior to kick off against the Steelers. And then 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.520 now Trayvon Diggs, a broken foot. Four to six weeks 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.639 is a report it, but there's a chance he could 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.400 be out longer. Yeah, well you think about it. You 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.239 got seven games to go and of course the bye week. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.840 But the seven games to go, say he's out six 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:26.760 weeks on a broken foot, I mean, are you are 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.120 you bringing him back? Depends on what happens there. Of 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.440 course you have the ability now with the injury reserve 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.640 the way it is, but broken foot, it looked like 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.560 he was trying to play on that for a little bit. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.480 I did get to talk to him after the game, 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.280 and he made it sound like this is a good 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.280 time for the bye week and then we'll see what 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.800 happens after that. He wasn't in that four to six 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.200 week mode. But those you know, young players never really 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.040 are so tough. Set back though, Nate, whenever you look 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.080 at this cornerback group and Treyvon Diggs not a part 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.480 of it, where do you go from here? Because you 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.320 still don't have Cheeto back. Hopefully he's back after the 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.280 bye week, but we've been hopeful for him to come 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.720 back for a gup full of weeks now. But what 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:05.520 are you looking at in the secondary now? I'm not 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.920 one in fifteen year reminds me of this. It's like 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.520 when things go bad for the Cowboys to go really bad, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.839 and uh, you got young guys you know getting injured. 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.280 You know, like be honest, I mean I remember one 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.640 year all of us was in uh that one in 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.840 fifteen year or that three and thirteen year, we all 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.680 had broken right thumb. So we had like four guys 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.080 running out during cash. It's like it was just it 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.920 never stopped. It never stopped. But it brought us Troy 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:39.239 min and Mike. Okay, so maybe all of these injuries 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.760 a brand you first round picks? How does thatdy have 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.120 a broken thumb? How does everybody have a broken thumb? 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.960 What y'all I mean? Was it was there some leg 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:52.000 browers going on, like trying to do what's going on? 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:56.960 Break people's thobs? I'm serious, I'm serious. My friend didn't 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.320 know what was happening, what went on? And I think 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.360 I was the last sky to the group to get 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:05.040 his thumb sprung or broke, and uh, you know, and 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.120 it was amazing because even though you have to have 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.120 a sprain thumb broke, you don't have to cast it. 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.880 You know, you get a little soft cast during the game, 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:15.880 but out of the game, you know, you just wrap 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.600 a manage around the ace manage. And back in them day, 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.360 it was ace man. They didn't have all this hot 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:24.159 dollar tape and you go and you walk around with 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.640 it wasn't a big deal. But what I try to 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.479 tell people, anything that hurts you when you're not a 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.920 physically gifted team like this team only has spot players 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.920 that are physically gifted, and you need every able body 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.880 to hold you to be just competitive in a game. 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.280 It's ugly man. Well and also from your experience, can 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.000 you tell me how an offensive lineman has a hamstring 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.800 injury and pregame warmups, because that's another thing that I 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.560 was very confused about in terms of the Cowboys just 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:56.120 not being able to take a break. You know. Rap 0:05:56.200 --> 0:06:00.320 before we did our pregame show, somebody came to us 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.840 and said, wow, you know, uh, the big guy Looney 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.599 is planning because Beyondest is not in there. And we 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.800 didn't know, but brat before the kickoff, somebody random saying, hey, 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:14.680 he has a strained hamstring and and not like what 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:19.400 he pulls something's ribs because we as afs a linement. 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.200 Come on, man, we're not that athletic. And if you 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.279 look at this kid body, how could he sprain anything? 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.760 He's just a big tree trunk. So it happens, and 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.600 like I said, this is a year way for the Cowboys. 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.520 Freak accidents are happening. You know. We lose our right 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.159 taker to a hill, we lose our love taking to 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:43.440 the neck, and things happened. We get our all pro 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.960 president knocked out from a blow in the back of 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:50.240 the head. I mean, Looney been out, in and out 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.200 of the lineup. So it's it's that type of year. Man, 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.880 I have no answers to that. I hate it. If 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.320 we're being real. You look at and there were lists 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.159 that were put out on Twitter. I think John Machoda 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.000 put out a list where it's just every single guy 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:07.119 who's gotten hurt without any specifics on whoever was gotten hurting. 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.600 You had to scroll down the sweet right you had. 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.720 You had to actually scroll to see the end of 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.480 the list. And have you do you remember a year 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.400 like this where it's legitimately one after the other, and 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.040 also in key positions like the Cowboys have had to 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.440 deal with. You know, there have been some years when 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.720 you know there were a lot of injuries, But what 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.920 I've said before is that I don't remember a year 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.440 where so many injuries to the same position. You know, 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.520 it's the it's the top guy and the backup. You know, 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:37.560 it's it's the left tackle and the right tackle, the 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:41.000 quarterback and the backup quarterback, and then you know cornerback position. 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.160 Now with Diggs, I mean, it's been Cheetah, it's been 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.960 Anthony Brown, it's been Diggs. Linebackers has been Sean Lee 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.840 and Layton Vandreish. Yeah, I mean so Tristan Hill, Gerald 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.400 McCoy defensive time. I mean, it's it's the same positions, 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.400 and so you're really you're really hurting in team's depth. 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.440 And when you pay all these high high dollar guys 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.800 like the way the Cowboys have, they don't have a 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:04.040 lot of depth and it's showing this year. That's that's 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.480 a good point because you look at it, go for it, Nate, 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.880 And then what you have to think in the years 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.800 going forward, we're going to have to do a bad 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:18.400 better evaluation of our mid range players because a lot 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.360 of teams, not not these mini injuries, but a lot 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:26.720 of teams have been known to sustain injuries to multiple, 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.480 multiple injuries. But we haven't been able to sustain because 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:36.640 our players, high dollar players outweigh our load dollar players 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:40.000 to such a drastic uh gap. So it's a big 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:41.839 fall off when we when we go to the second 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.520 team guy. That's a very good point. But where do 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.480 you start with that? Is that start with draft? Is? 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.960 Does it start with with money? Where do where do 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.320 you start free agency? Where is where is the emphasis 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.360 going to have to be in order to have some 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:03.600 of those mid range guys. Well it starts in the draft. Ah, well, 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:05.559 you're right. I mean, you're right about that starts in 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:07.880 the draft. There's he is one hundred percent right. But 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:12.200 another another thing that helps. And every time a team struggles, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.480 the fan base wants to fire the coach, you know, 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.960 fire the coach, new coach, but then don't understand how 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:22.160 a new coaches how that that sets everybody back. I mean, 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.199 this is a new staff. You have to have some 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.679 continuity that the scouting department needs to understand what the 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.880 coaches really want so they can build something together. Build 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.600 this thing where hey, this fifth round pick. I know 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.520 our defensive back coach loves this guy, will love this guy. 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.280 Let's draft him and he'll be perfect in ir scheme. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.439 You can't keep switching things up all the time. I'm 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.800 not saying the Cowboys have done that. I'm saying I'm 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.680 saying you need to build a staff. You need to 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:51.160 build continuity within the organization, and then you can start 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.720 really plugging in some mid level guys and go, you know, 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.000 this sixth round pick, this fifth round pick, because I 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.440 know you know what they'll what they'll like. So it 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.720 is the draft, but it is a continuity within the staff, Nate, 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.680 and and I tell you man, and you hear me 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:12.720 said every week Kyle, how I love the job coach. 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:18.400 Fi filming has done. People continue to say our offensive line, no, no, no, no, 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.600 offensive line is okay, just got they got to continue 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.080 to play. We gotta be honest. We know it's more 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.400 than an adequate backup. Are each starter we got Looney, 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.720 we've had the right tackle. We crushed still, but give 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.040 them a little help, like most teams have to give 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.600 their one or their two of their offensive line of help. 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.880 And we're okay, man, kill them. Moore. With the help 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.520 of this head coach is getting better and better than 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.200 this paid play calling as we have better and better 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:52.320 quarterbacks at backup. This thing can work, but I'm with 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.440 you one hundred percent in it. You you will have 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:59.439 to keep these coaches for three or four years so 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:03.520 they can get their system in place, because maccarthur has 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.960 done this before. With these guys, you're starting to see 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:08.840 a bit of the turn of the corner. And I 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.840 think both of you guys are making fantastic points on 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.320 one the injuries up front, and you're talking about it. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.920 It's not just one position. You've got not only have 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:18.840 both of your tackles out, but you have your backup 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:20.960 left tackle out. And Brandon Knight he's not even a 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.920 part of it. And you're talking about putting in Terrence Steel. 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.640 He's your backup, maybe your backup, backup, your third string 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.120 right tackle. He's the guy you're having to go with it. Sure, 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.240 there are other options, and you've brought in a bunch 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.360 of guys, but just because you've brought in a bunch 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.640 of guys doesn't mean that they're going to perform better 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.960 than Terrence Steel. And I think that's been the biggest 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.320 knock on Joe Philbin. But in terms of piecing things together, 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.400 I think this offensive line has done a better job. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.760 And it seems like every single week they're moving along. Yeah, 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:51.199 they are doing that. It's different pieces here and there. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:55.960 I mean, I didn't realize just how steady your right 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.240 guard would be. I mean, he's an all Pro, there's 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.680 no doubt, but just him back in the line seems 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.920 to calm everybody down. They've played better with him. Uh, 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.520 Nate can can talk about, you know, just how the 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.880 importance of that and you know when he was there 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.120 that they had he had some great players next to 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.640 him as well, but still just having an experienced guy 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:20.120 like Zack Martin seemed that once he returned, everybody's play 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.160 kind of stepped up a little bit better. Nate, whenever 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:28.800 it comes to, go for it. And that's what I've 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.440 been trying to tell our guys as a whole for 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:37.040 the last three years. A true good offensive line coach, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.760 you give him two good players at at any of 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.720 the five positions, and most coaches can make it work. 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.640 But we saw him when Zack Martin left out for 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:51.360 a game, how bad it was. And when he returned 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:56.600 for a game against a better defense overall, you see 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.120 how much better it was. So if they get one 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:03.040 other piece in there, that's a stabilizing force that you 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.640 can battle one on one and don't have to always 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.400 give help. This office line can be better than average 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.280 and you can win super Bowls and not this team, 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.280 but you can win super Bowls because a lot of 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.880 teams are winning super Bowls with less than this. Do 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:23.280 they have another one? Uh? They don't. They got all 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.040 of them are injured. Right now, I tell you la, 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:30.320 right here, Uh my man has went from giving up 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.840 three or four big plays the game I'm talking about 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.199 your left guard. He's went from giving up three or 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.480 four big plays a game to maybe one or maybe 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.600 one and a half. And then it's not as bad 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.640 as it normally used to be. But he gets pushed 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.240 back on the quarterback. So I left guard is playing 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.200 a little bit better, be honest, was playing nice. Looney 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:52.040 came in and I'm telling you because Stefan Truitt had 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:57.120 six sacks before this game, you know, the bud Dupree 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.160 and uh and I hope I'm calling his name right, 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:03.920 And why these guys they had thirty sacks as a team. 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.640 That didn't happen this week due to the fact that 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.560 we've found what Zeke can do, we've found what Tony 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:15.440 Pollock can do, and they've mixed in enough run and 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.920 this kid was savvy enough. And I don't want to 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.280 call the quarterback's name because I got some depressing news 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.800 as that the kid ain't even get another look this 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.600 year and less Andy Dalton go down. So I mean, wow, 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:32.000 that was nice, man. And granted Pittsburgh may not was 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:36.600 jacked up, but these guys played well enough to give 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:40.280 themselves confidence to go into the next game, you know, 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:46.680 to to to prepare better. Lots of shifting and changing 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:48.560 on that offensive line, But do you look at the 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.960 defense too, And you can say the same kind of 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.440 thing with the secondary, And like we've said with having 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.880 to build Treyvon Diggs with the absence of Cheetah A. 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.400 Woozier and even Anthony Brown for a little bit there, 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.680 now Diggs is the one that's out. And Chris Beam earlier, 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.440 he made a fantastic point before the show. He said, 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.680 now is the time you start looking at the secondary 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.360 as to who's going to be playing alongside Diggs in 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.360 twenty twenty. Because Diggs is gonna be there, He's gonna 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.960 be your guy moving forward. Who else is gonna be 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.760 there because of course Jordan Lewis, Cheetahwoosier or not long 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.280 term guys at least at the moment here. So now 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.000 this is a chance to see who else is going 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.200 to be a part of the secondary heading in the 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.040 next year. Yeah, I mean that's a great question. And 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:31.120 Anthony Brown should be here. You know, they did sign him. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.440 Donovan Wilson. I think I think he continues to play 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.240 well at safety. Really liked which you've got with him 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.480 at Xavier. Woods is a free agent. Now, I'm just 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.360 talking about the secondary. He might have been talking about 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.800 all of the cornerback rusition, but but you know, there's 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.720 just question marks all the way around there. You know, 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.160 I don't see Jordan Lewis coming back. He hasn't really 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.440 had a good year and he'll be a free agent. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.680 I don't know if Cheetah was going to play the 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.840 rest of the year. I mean, I don't know. It's 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.440 been I call it the hamstring from Hell. I mean, 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.200 I don't I don't know what's happening there. Um, I know, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.080 I'm sure a contract, his contract is playing into this 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.160 because you know, it's just it's been too long. So 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.040 I don't know the status with him. But I can 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:14.040 rest assured he's probably gonna hit free agency. I wouldn't 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.560 imagine him coming back next year. So yeah, you're gonna 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:18.720 have to figure it out. It's not gonna be Savian Smith. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:22.120 It's not gonna be so big big issues there. And 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.800 when you guys start doing that draft show, I want 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.400 to hear about some cornerback corners. Yeah, I do, because 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:28.880 I think that you know, Jerry said it on the 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.040 radio this morning that it's silly to talk about quarterback 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.680 at a high pick, so maybe corner will be will 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.320 be where they have to go. Well, I'll just say 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.120 this right here, if you're wanting to look for a 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.960 corner in the draft, it's trade down city, trade down, 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.920 and get some extra picks. I mean you're almost like, 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.240 who's that? No, not trade down, that's not a name. 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.960 Trade down? Yeah, no, trading down from the pick that 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.040 you're at at least where we're sitting right now, which 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.200 would be the third overall this kid and went back 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:59.960 to the XFL. Yeah, we have about trade doown city 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.880 like it seems like a good player JV kid as 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:07.560 a sophomore, Nick or Nate Rather, would you would you 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:11.120 look at this secondary as a unit that needs to 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.280 see an injection of talent at least moving forward or 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.520 is it? Is it really cut and dry on that 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.120 you've got to get some guys this offseason to help 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.119 out what Trayvon Diggs and Anthony Brown are taking in 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:26.320 the next year. Now, I just believe this right here. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.520 And as much as I love cdee Lamb and I've 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.840 loved the draft picks that we've gotten, I've been screaming 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.360 for years and years and years, sooner or later, this 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.119 team gonna fall apart on defense and you're gonna have 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.520 to have a fire sale to get players in here. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.840 And this is what's scary, because we talked earlier about 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:46.480 how do we do it? Do we have the money? 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.840 We don't know what the cap is next year, so 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.200 the premium players are going to be gone, and even 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.560 the middle range kids are gonna be gone in free agencies. 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:59.160 So this is a year for our scouts if they're 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:03.720 gonna shine defensively. This is a year. I mean, let's 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.639 not play any games. Our offensive line is okay, and 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:08.800 y'all may say it's not what I say it is, 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.720 and our and our offense is good. We don't have 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:15.439 to touch nothing in our offense this year. Nothing. We 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:20.919 just go all out defense free agency and with the draft. 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.480 If we have seven picks, h six and a half 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.840 of them should be defensive players. Hey Carolina did it 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.200 last year where every single one of their picks were 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.960 defensive players. So I mean, hey, it's been done before. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.679 But you think the same thing because because if you 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:42.320 get if we can get another coin, another d lynman. 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:47.720 Let's see how Gallimore played this week, how Tank played 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.879 this week. They didn't have any sacks, but they was 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.639 pressuring the quarterback and they stopped to run. If we 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.040 can get those type of performances from guys up front 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.120 and get one or two more sacks, and Gregory will 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.920 only get better if he can keep his demons behind him. 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.480 Now we go out and we draft a stud defensive 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.040 lineman to come in and give us that type pressure. 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.280 I'm not worried about it. Back in. I'm not worried 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.680 about it back in because I think Coach Harrison those 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.679 guys was scheming up. As long as you have guys 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.800 that are willing and enable and know how know what 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:24.000 they can and cannot do. Earlier in the year, guys 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.520 were trying to disguise things and didn't have the athletic 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:30.600 ability to do that. But now here we go. That's 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.199 rock and roll. Man, get a guy out front that 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:37.520 can be a difference maker one. I mean, I agree 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:41.280 with that defensive tackle. Defensive line you start there. I've 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.200 always believed I'm not in this it's the chicken and 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.520 egg theory. Now I don't believe that. I believe it's 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.400 defensive line. You give me a great defensive line. Those 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.639 cornerbacks and safety start looking a lot better. So I'm 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:54.639 I'm with you on the priority there. Now, I do 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.399 think you got to get the players on the secondary, 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.040 and you're gonna have to draft those I think. I 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.000 don't think you can get a free agent. Really mean, 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.600 you might get a veteran journeyman or whatever. But we've 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:08.320 seen how taking a chance on free agency has played out. 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.680 This year hasn't worked out for the Cowboys so much. 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.080 So it's gonna have to be through the draft, but 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.280 it's gonna be a big overhaul there in the secondary. Yeah, 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.080 it wasn't really a good good year for the pro 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.920 scouting department. College scouting department did a really nice job, 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:21.719 but at least the pro scouting with some of these 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.600 veteran additions just didn't work. Didn't workout. It didn't work out, 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.280 and that happens sometimes it happens. But you couldn't look 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:31.240 at guys, I understand this point. We would have knew. 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:37.560 We would have knew. And OTAs on the second mini 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:41.840 count man, Haha, Clint Dix ain't working out. We would 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.360 have knew. You get what I'm saying. Some of these 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.439 guys and this every team, every team is struggling with 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.680 this with injuries, and with guys they're like, wow, man, 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:55.480 what happened from last year to haha? Clint Dix was 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:59.879 a starter. Granted he was just a stand in starter, 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:05.760 but he went from stand in starter. Said nothing done 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:10.080 Terryo Poe. I mean they say he homeless, is hanging 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:15.960 out in front of dunkin Donuts somewhere. Okay, Oh, that's 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:17.679 a good way to put it. I guess, I mean, 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:19.880 that's one way to say it. But yeah, I like it. Yeah, 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:24.760 from the guy that I know him, don't I I 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:28.080