1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: The following he's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 4 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Following the line says, It's a Tuesday 5 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: edition of Talking Cowboys here from the SWBC Mortgage Studios 6 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco. And this is gonna be interesting. 7 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: How about that it's a new week, it's a bye week, 8 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: and because of that, it's not the same crew as 9 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: normal here on Talking Cowboys. No Isaiah, no, Heck Mount, 10 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: no Rob. You can catch those guys throughout the rest 11 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: of the day on various shows. But man, we've got 12 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: a treat for you. How about Nick Eatman and Nate 13 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: Newton on the same podcast with myself, Kyle Yeoman's and 14 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: in this thing the moon it Hey, any idea what 15 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: Nate Newton is gonna be bringing. Let's see, how about 16 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: the truth? The truth? I know what truth? I know 17 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: what y'all interrupted, y'all. I know what y'all interrupted, because 18 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: at nine third I used to have a big black 19 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: coffee and after that I have a something else. All right, 20 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: y'all interrupted that? Well, I don't know, I don't know. 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm I really want to and I'm sorry. He's a 22 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: big he's a big make a deal or what is it, 23 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: let's make a deal fans watching the showcase showdown or 24 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: what He's big entertained, that's what it is. Yeah, it's 25 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: called his hers and I go to his Oh no, 26 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: all right, well Nate's already, he's awake, and I hope 27 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: you're awake because didn't know there was a time for that. 28 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's roll. So, yes, Nick eat Men and 29 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Yoman's these two have more combined experience around the 30 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys than I've been on this earth in terms of years. 31 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of a lot of fun to 32 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: be had and a lot of knowledge to be shared. 33 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: And we'll start this off. Hold on, let me just 34 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: clarify there. One guy has actually played like fifteen years 35 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: in the trenches, one Super Bowls and then the six 36 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, and the other guy's just sitting there on 37 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: the sidelines there sometimes getting pushed by that guy. But 38 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: either way, like like combining the two it seems a 39 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: little bit different. But I get it. I know what 40 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: you're saying. I heard there was a story about you're 41 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: a great historian. You're a great historian. Do okay, thank you, 42 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: I'll take that. Is that good? That's good enough? Hey, 43 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: whatever about the cowboys, he knows everything, I promise about 44 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: the cowboys. You do well, he does know that also, 45 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs, big news this morning in terms of the 46 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: cowboys who just cannot catch a break over the past 47 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Because even when we recorded this show yesterday, 48 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: Tyler Biadesh news wasn't out just yet. But now Tyler 49 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Beotish out two to three weeks at the most minimum 50 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: really for Beotish because of the hamstring injury that he 51 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: suffered prior to kick off against the Steelers. And then 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: now Trayvon Diggs, a broken foot. Four to six weeks 53 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: is a report it, but there's a chance he could 54 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: be out longer. Yeah, well you think about it. You 55 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: got seven games to go and of course the bye week. 56 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: But the seven games to go, say he's out six 57 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: weeks on a broken foot, I mean, are you are 58 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: you bringing him back? Depends on what happens there. Of 59 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: course you have the ability now with the injury reserve 60 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: the way it is, but broken foot, it looked like 61 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: he was trying to play on that for a little bit. 62 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: I did get to talk to him after the game, 63 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: and he made it sound like this is a good 64 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: time for the bye week and then we'll see what 65 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: happens after that. He wasn't in that four to six 66 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: week mode. But those you know, young players never really 67 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: are so tough. Set back though, Nate, whenever you look 68 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: at this cornerback group and Treyvon Diggs not a part 69 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: of it, where do you go from here? Because you 70 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: still don't have Cheeto back. Hopefully he's back after the 71 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: bye week, but we've been hopeful for him to come 72 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: back for a gup full of weeks now. But what 73 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: are you looking at in the secondary now? I'm not 74 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: one in fifteen year reminds me of this. It's like 75 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: when things go bad for the Cowboys to go really bad, 76 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: and uh, you got young guys you know getting injured. 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: You know, like be honest, I mean I remember one 78 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: year all of us was in uh that one in 79 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: fifteen year or that three and thirteen year, we all 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: had broken right thumb. So we had like four guys 81 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: running out during cash. It's like it was just it 82 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: never stopped. It never stopped. But it brought us Troy 83 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 1: min and Mike. Okay, so maybe all of these injuries 84 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: a brand you first round picks? How does thatdy have 85 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: a broken thumb? How does everybody have a broken thumb? 86 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: What y'all I mean? Was it was there some leg 87 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: browers going on, like trying to do what's going on? 88 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: Break people's thobs? I'm serious, I'm serious. My friend didn't 89 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: know what was happening, what went on? And I think 90 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: I was the last sky to the group to get 91 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: his thumb sprung or broke, and uh, you know, and 92 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: it was amazing because even though you have to have 93 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: a sprain thumb broke, you don't have to cast it. 94 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: You know, you get a little soft cast during the game, 95 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: but out of the game, you know, you just wrap 96 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: a manage around the ace manage. And back in them day, 97 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: it was ace man. They didn't have all this hot 98 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: dollar tape and you go and you walk around with 99 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't a big deal. But what I try to 100 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: tell people, anything that hurts you when you're not a 101 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: physically gifted team like this team only has spot players 102 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: that are physically gifted, and you need every able body 103 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: to hold you to be just competitive in a game. 104 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: It's ugly man. Well and also from your experience, can 105 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: you tell me how an offensive lineman has a hamstring 106 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: injury and pregame warmups, because that's another thing that I 107 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: was very confused about in terms of the Cowboys just 108 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: not being able to take a break. You know. Rap 109 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: before we did our pregame show, somebody came to us 110 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: and said, wow, you know, uh, the big guy Looney 111 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: is planning because Beyondest is not in there. And we 112 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: didn't know, but brat before the kickoff, somebody random saying, hey, 113 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: he has a strained hamstring and and not like what 114 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: he pulls something's ribs because we as afs a linement. 115 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: Come on, man, we're not that athletic. And if you 116 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: look at this kid body, how could he sprain anything? 117 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: He's just a big tree trunk. So it happens, and 118 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: like I said, this is a year way for the Cowboys. 119 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: Freak accidents are happening. You know. We lose our right 120 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: taker to a hill, we lose our love taking to 121 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: the neck, and things happened. We get our all pro 122 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: president knocked out from a blow in the back of 123 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: the head. I mean, Looney been out, in and out 124 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: of the lineup. So it's it's that type of year. Man, 125 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: I have no answers to that. I hate it. If 126 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: we're being real. You look at and there were lists 127 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: that were put out on Twitter. I think John Machoda 128 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: put out a list where it's just every single guy 129 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,119 Speaker 1: who's gotten hurt without any specifics on whoever was gotten hurting. 130 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: You had to scroll down the sweet right you had. 131 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: You had to actually scroll to see the end of 132 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: the list. And have you do you remember a year 133 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: like this where it's legitimately one after the other, and 134 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: also in key positions like the Cowboys have had to 135 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: deal with. You know, there have been some years when 136 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: you know there were a lot of injuries, But what 137 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: I've said before is that I don't remember a year 138 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: where so many injuries to the same position. You know, 139 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: it's the it's the top guy and the backup. You know, 140 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: it's it's the left tackle and the right tackle, the 141 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: quarterback and the backup quarterback, and then you know cornerback position. 142 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Now with Diggs, I mean, it's been Cheetah, it's been 143 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, it's been Diggs. Linebackers has been Sean Lee 144 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: and Layton Vandreish. Yeah, I mean so Tristan Hill, Gerald 145 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: McCoy defensive time. I mean, it's it's the same positions, 146 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: and so you're really you're really hurting in team's depth. 147 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: And when you pay all these high high dollar guys 148 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: like the way the Cowboys have, they don't have a 149 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: lot of depth and it's showing this year. That's that's 150 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: a good point because you look at it, go for it, Nate, 151 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: And then what you have to think in the years 152 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: going forward, we're going to have to do a bad 153 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: better evaluation of our mid range players because a lot 154 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: of teams, not not these mini injuries, but a lot 155 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: of teams have been known to sustain injuries to multiple, 156 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: multiple injuries. But we haven't been able to sustain because 157 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: our players, high dollar players outweigh our load dollar players 158 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: to such a drastic uh gap. So it's a big 159 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: fall off when we when we go to the second 160 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: team guy. That's a very good point. But where do 161 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: you start with that? Is that start with draft? Is? 162 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: Does it start with with money? Where do where do 163 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: you start free agency? Where is where is the emphasis 164 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: going to have to be in order to have some 165 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: of those mid range guys. Well it starts in the draft. Ah, well, 166 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, you're right about that starts in 167 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: the draft. There's he is one hundred percent right. But 168 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: another another thing that helps. And every time a team struggles, 169 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: the fan base wants to fire the coach, you know, 170 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: fire the coach, new coach, but then don't understand how 171 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: a new coaches how that that sets everybody back. I mean, 172 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: this is a new staff. You have to have some 173 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: continuity that the scouting department needs to understand what the 174 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: coaches really want so they can build something together. Build 175 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: this thing where hey, this fifth round pick. I know 176 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: our defensive back coach loves this guy, will love this guy. 177 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: Let's draft him and he'll be perfect in ir scheme. 178 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: You can't keep switching things up all the time. I'm 179 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: not saying the Cowboys have done that. I'm saying I'm 180 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: saying you need to build a staff. You need to 181 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: build continuity within the organization, and then you can start 182 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: really plugging in some mid level guys and go, you know, 183 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: this sixth round pick, this fifth round pick, because I 184 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: know you know what they'll what they'll like. So it 185 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: is the draft, but it is a continuity within the staff, Nate, 186 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: and and I tell you man, and you hear me 187 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: said every week Kyle, how I love the job coach. 188 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: Fi filming has done. People continue to say our offensive line, no, no, no, no, 189 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: offensive line is okay, just got they got to continue 190 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: to play. We gotta be honest. We know it's more 191 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: than an adequate backup. Are each starter we got Looney, 192 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: we've had the right tackle. We crushed still, but give 193 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: them a little help, like most teams have to give 194 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: their one or their two of their offensive line of help. 195 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: And we're okay, man, kill them. Moore. With the help 196 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: of this head coach is getting better and better than 197 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: this paid play calling as we have better and better 198 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks at backup. This thing can work, but I'm with 199 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: you one hundred percent in it. You you will have 200 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: to keep these coaches for three or four years so 201 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: they can get their system in place, because maccarthur has 202 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: done this before. With these guys, you're starting to see 203 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: a bit of the turn of the corner. And I 204 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: think both of you guys are making fantastic points on 205 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: one the injuries up front, and you're talking about it. 206 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: It's not just one position. You've got not only have 207 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: both of your tackles out, but you have your backup 208 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: left tackle out. And Brandon Knight he's not even a 209 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: part of it. And you're talking about putting in Terrence Steel. 210 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: He's your backup, maybe your backup, backup, your third string 211 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: right tackle. He's the guy you're having to go with it. Sure, 212 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: there are other options, and you've brought in a bunch 213 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: of guys, but just because you've brought in a bunch 214 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: of guys doesn't mean that they're going to perform better 215 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: than Terrence Steel. And I think that's been the biggest 216 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: knock on Joe Philbin. But in terms of piecing things together, 217 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: I think this offensive line has done a better job. 218 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: And it seems like every single week they're moving along. Yeah, 219 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: they are doing that. It's different pieces here and there. 220 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't realize just how steady your right 221 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: guard would be. I mean, he's an all Pro, there's 222 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: no doubt, but just him back in the line seems 223 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: to calm everybody down. They've played better with him. Uh, 224 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: Nate can can talk about, you know, just how the 225 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: importance of that and you know when he was there 226 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: that they had he had some great players next to 227 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: him as well, but still just having an experienced guy 228 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: like Zack Martin seemed that once he returned, everybody's play 229 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: kind of stepped up a little bit better. Nate, whenever 230 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: it comes to, go for it. And that's what I've 231 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: been trying to tell our guys as a whole for 232 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: the last three years. A true good offensive line coach, 233 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: you give him two good players at at any of 234 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: the five positions, and most coaches can make it work. 235 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: But we saw him when Zack Martin left out for 236 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: a game, how bad it was. And when he returned 237 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: for a game against a better defense overall, you see 238 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: how much better it was. So if they get one 239 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: other piece in there, that's a stabilizing force that you 240 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: can battle one on one and don't have to always 241 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: give help. This office line can be better than average 242 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: and you can win super Bowls and not this team, 243 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: but you can win super Bowls because a lot of 244 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: teams are winning super Bowls with less than this. Do 245 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: they have another one? Uh? They don't. They got all 246 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: of them are injured. Right now, I tell you la, 247 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: right here, Uh my man has went from giving up 248 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: three or four big plays the game I'm talking about 249 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: your left guard. He's went from giving up three or 250 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: four big plays a game to maybe one or maybe 251 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: one and a half. And then it's not as bad 252 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: as it normally used to be. But he gets pushed 253 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: back on the quarterback. So I left guard is playing 254 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: a little bit better, be honest, was playing nice. Looney 255 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: came in and I'm telling you because Stefan Truitt had 256 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: six sacks before this game, you know, the bud Dupree 257 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: and uh and I hope I'm calling his name right, 258 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: And why these guys they had thirty sacks as a team. 259 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: That didn't happen this week due to the fact that 260 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: we've found what Zeke can do, we've found what Tony 261 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: Pollock can do, and they've mixed in enough run and 262 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: this kid was savvy enough. And I don't want to 263 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: call the quarterback's name because I got some depressing news 264 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: as that the kid ain't even get another look this 265 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: year and less Andy Dalton go down. So I mean, wow, 266 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: that was nice, man. And granted Pittsburgh may not was 267 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: jacked up, but these guys played well enough to give 268 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: themselves confidence to go into the next game, you know, 269 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: to to to prepare better. Lots of shifting and changing 270 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: on that offensive line, But do you look at the 271 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: defense too, And you can say the same kind of 272 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: thing with the secondary, And like we've said with having 273 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: to build Treyvon Diggs with the absence of Cheetah A. 274 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: Woozier and even Anthony Brown for a little bit there, 275 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: now Diggs is the one that's out. And Chris Beam earlier, 276 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: he made a fantastic point before the show. He said, 277 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: now is the time you start looking at the secondary 278 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: as to who's going to be playing alongside Diggs in 279 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Because Diggs is gonna be there, He's gonna 280 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: be your guy moving forward. Who else is gonna be 281 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: there because of course Jordan Lewis, Cheetahwoosier or not long 282 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: term guys at least at the moment here. So now 283 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: this is a chance to see who else is going 284 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: to be a part of the secondary heading in the 285 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, I mean that's a great question. And 286 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown should be here. You know, they did sign him. 287 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson. I think I think he continues to play 288 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: well at safety. Really liked which you've got with him 289 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: at Xavier. Woods is a free agent. Now, I'm just 290 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: talking about the secondary. He might have been talking about 291 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: all of the cornerback rusition, but but you know, there's 292 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: just question marks all the way around there. You know, 293 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: I don't see Jordan Lewis coming back. He hasn't really 294 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: had a good year and he'll be a free agent. 295 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if Cheetah was going to play the 296 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: rest of the year. I mean, I don't know. It's 297 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: been I call it the hamstring from Hell. I mean, 298 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what's happening there. Um, I know, 299 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure a contract, his contract is playing into this 300 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: because you know, it's just it's been too long. So 301 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't know the status with him. But I can 302 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: rest assured he's probably gonna hit free agency. I wouldn't 303 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: imagine him coming back next year. So yeah, you're gonna 304 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: have to figure it out. It's not gonna be Savian Smith. 305 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be so big big issues there. And 306 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: when you guys start doing that draft show, I want 307 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: to hear about some cornerback corners. Yeah, I do, because 308 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: I think that you know, Jerry said it on the 309 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: radio this morning that it's silly to talk about quarterback 310 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: at a high pick, so maybe corner will be will 311 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: be where they have to go. Well, I'll just say 312 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: this right here, if you're wanting to look for a 313 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: corner in the draft, it's trade down city, trade down, 314 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: and get some extra picks. I mean you're almost like, 315 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: who's that? No, not trade down, that's not a name. 316 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: Trade down? Yeah, no, trading down from the pick that 317 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: you're at at least where we're sitting right now, which 318 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: would be the third overall this kid and went back 319 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: to the XFL. Yeah, we have about trade doown city 320 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: like it seems like a good player JV kid as 321 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: a sophomore, Nick or Nate Rather, would you would you 322 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: look at this secondary as a unit that needs to 323 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: see an injection of talent at least moving forward or 324 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: is it? Is it really cut and dry on that 325 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: you've got to get some guys this offseason to help 326 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: out what Trayvon Diggs and Anthony Brown are taking in 327 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: the next year. Now, I just believe this right here. 328 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: And as much as I love cdee Lamb and I've 329 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: loved the draft picks that we've gotten, I've been screaming 330 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: for years and years and years, sooner or later, this 331 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: team gonna fall apart on defense and you're gonna have 332 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: to have a fire sale to get players in here. 333 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: And this is what's scary, because we talked earlier about 334 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: how do we do it? Do we have the money? 335 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: We don't know what the cap is next year, so 336 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: the premium players are going to be gone, and even 337 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: the middle range kids are gonna be gone in free agencies. 338 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: So this is a year for our scouts if they're 339 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: gonna shine defensively. This is a year. I mean, let's 340 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: not play any games. Our offensive line is okay, and 341 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: y'all may say it's not what I say it is, 342 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: and our and our offense is good. We don't have 343 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: to touch nothing in our offense this year. Nothing. We 344 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: just go all out defense free agency and with the draft. 345 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: If we have seven picks, h six and a half 346 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: of them should be defensive players. Hey Carolina did it 347 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: last year where every single one of their picks were 348 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: defensive players. So I mean, hey, it's been done before. 349 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: But you think the same thing because because if you 350 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: get if we can get another coin, another d lynman. 351 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: Let's see how Gallimore played this week, how Tank played 352 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: this week. They didn't have any sacks, but they was 353 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: pressuring the quarterback and they stopped to run. If we 354 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: can get those type of performances from guys up front 355 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: and get one or two more sacks, and Gregory will 356 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: only get better if he can keep his demons behind him. 357 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: Now we go out and we draft a stud defensive 358 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: lineman to come in and give us that type pressure. 359 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it. Back in. I'm not worried 360 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: about it back in because I think Coach Harrison those 361 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: guys was scheming up. As long as you have guys 362 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: that are willing and enable and know how know what 363 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: they can and cannot do. Earlier in the year, guys 364 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: were trying to disguise things and didn't have the athletic 365 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: ability to do that. But now here we go. That's 366 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: rock and roll. Man, get a guy out front that 367 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: can be a difference maker one. I mean, I agree 368 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: with that defensive tackle. Defensive line you start there. I've 369 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: always believed I'm not in this it's the chicken and 370 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: egg theory. Now I don't believe that. I believe it's 371 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: defensive line. You give me a great defensive line. Those 372 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: cornerbacks and safety start looking a lot better. So I'm 373 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: I'm with you on the priority there. Now, I do 374 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: think you got to get the players on the secondary, 375 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to draft those I think. I 376 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: don't think you can get a free agent. Really mean, 377 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: you might get a veteran journeyman or whatever. But we've 378 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: seen how taking a chance on free agency has played out. 379 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: This year hasn't worked out for the Cowboys so much. 380 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: So it's gonna have to be through the draft, but 381 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big overhaul there in the secondary. Yeah, 382 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't really a good good year for the pro 383 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: scouting department. College scouting department did a really nice job, 384 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: but at least the pro scouting with some of these 385 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: veteran additions just didn't work. Didn't workout. It didn't work out, 386 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: and that happens sometimes it happens. But you couldn't look 387 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: at guys, I understand this point. We would have knew. 388 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: We would have knew. And OTAs on the second mini 389 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: count man, Haha, Clint Dix ain't working out. We would 390 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: have knew. You get what I'm saying. Some of these 391 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: guys and this every team, every team is struggling with 392 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: this with injuries, and with guys they're like, wow, man, 393 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: what happened from last year to haha? Clint Dix was 394 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: a starter. Granted he was just a stand in starter, 395 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: but he went from stand in starter. Said nothing done 396 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: Terryo Poe. I mean they say he homeless, is hanging 397 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: out in front of dunkin Donuts somewhere. Okay, Oh, that's 398 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: a good way to put it. I guess, I mean, 399 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: that's one way to say it. But yeah, I like it. Yeah, 400 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: from the guy that I know him, don't I I 401 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: nor him. They don't hit players in the mouth. I 402 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: know him. They don't do that. It's hard for me 403 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: to hit players in the mouth. But you couldn't beat 404 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: me bragging on done TERRYO. This this a pass offseason. 405 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: Every time I was on the air, I bragged on 406 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: done Terry and I and I that that that's first 407 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: time I ever been just truly disappointed. Yeah, well, you 408 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: weren't alone. I think all of us saw that signing 409 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: as a good signing, especially from what we had heard 410 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: with the Mike Nolan defense and the scheme that he 411 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: was gonna put out there. We thought, hey, this is 412 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna fit well, and he's gonna come 413 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: out and he's gonna play hard. Coming off an injury 414 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: may take a little bit, but it took a lot 415 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: longer than a little bit to get adjusted, and ultimately 416 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: he didn't work out. But I think there's a lot 417 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: of things you can look back on and question whenever 418 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: it comes to this past offseason. 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See att dot com slash five G 462 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: for you for details to Talking Cowboys second segment here 463 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys by Week edition with Nick Eatman and 464 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: the Great Nate Newton. Nate got as Dunkin Donuts? You 465 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: got your Dunkin Donuts over there, buddy? No, yeah, I 466 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: do have a few extra dunk Dunuts. But I'm binging 467 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: the coffee man. I'm beinging the coffee man. We woke 468 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: up a little bit earlier than than what he's used to. 469 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: I guess whenever you've got your Hanging with the Boys 470 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: show a little bit later on. Now, before we get 471 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: into this second segment, Do you want to remind you 472 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: The twenty twenty PBR Unleashed the Beast World Finals will 473 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: be at at and T Stadium this Thursday through Sunday. 474 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: Don't miss a second of the action. Get your tickets 475 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: now at PBR dot com or SeatGeek dot com. I 476 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: heard you're a really big PBR fan, Nick, Yeah, it 477 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: just beens if it's cold, um and it's a hot day. Yeah, 478 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: I definitely do some PBR for sure, big fan of 479 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: PBR natives. What you're talking about? You're talking about, oh, 480 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: bull riding? Oh yeah, I thought you're talking about like paps. 481 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: What what is paps? I don't even know what that is, Kyle, Okay, 482 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: perhaps blue blue ribbon? Oh oh oh oh oh okay, 483 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: I just I was not thinking about that. No, not PBR, No, no, no, okay, 484 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about now, now, Nate, are 485 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: you a big rodeo guy? I will go see it, man, 486 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: that uh that bull riding and something special. Man. And 487 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, if you ever just go 488 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: out into somebody pastor that's got a couple of bulls 489 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: and they out there were just wandering around with the 490 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: young ladies, but you can get some hell of the 491 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: fights out there. Bro, for dumb, it's out there. I'm 492 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: just saying, I feel like there's a story behind. Oh, 493 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: there's definitely a story. Now I'm not going I'm not going. 494 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going, ded I don't know. What I'm trying 495 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: to say is bulls. I've seen a bull lift up 496 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: another almost four or five thousand pounds other bull with 497 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: his head and just tossing bro because it was fighting 498 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: over a young female and I'm like wow, and I 499 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: had never seen that before. It literally shook the ground, 500 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: and so that just you know, do'sn't either hand that 501 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: you don't understand all that. That was probably before the 502 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: Internet when that was the entertainment we have. But now 503 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: people have phones and stuff like that. You do other 504 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram. Go out there and fight one on 505 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: one bullfight to pull that up on Twitter. You will 506 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: be amazed. A bull can move a twenty five hundred 507 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: pound in the twenty five hundred truck. I'm serious, man, 508 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: Bulls are strongs. Out what I'm saying, sign them to 509 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: the offensive lines. I was gonna say, can we get 510 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: one and so to get on the back of a 511 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: bull to get on the back of bulls. Something got 512 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: to be wrong with you, that's all I'm saying. Something 513 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: gotta be wrong now that makes sense with the with 514 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: the offensive lines that Nate has been on, that's that's 515 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: high praise from seeing what he's seen over the years 516 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: in on the football field. But uh, I tease this 517 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: going into the break and speaking of quarterbacks, and we 518 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: mentioned Dak Prescott is the quarterback of the future. Both 519 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones said that yesterday and Jerry Jones today on 520 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: the fan, saying that even with a very high draft pick, 521 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: which right now you would be picking at the third overall, 522 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: that's destined to change. It's gonna go up, it's gonna 523 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: go down. But he still said, Zak Prescott your quarterback. 524 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: But I'm curious as the decision moving into Week eleven 525 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: against Minnesota, the decision is to stick with Andy Dalton 526 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: and not Gared Gilbert. Nata loused to this a little 527 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: bit earlier, saying that he was a bit disappointed to 528 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: hear that Gilbert doesn't get a shot a second time 529 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: after how well he played on Sunday. I want to 530 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: hear your opinion first, Nick, and then Nate. I want 531 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: to hear why you're disappointed, But do you think this 532 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: is the right decision? I do. I do think I 533 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: think Andy Dalton's a better quarterback. He's proven that now 534 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: until he proves otherwise. But I mean, he's proven over 535 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: his career that he's you know, been in the Pro Bowl. 536 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: He's been you know, keep him, keep him upright, keep 537 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: him healthy, and he's proven to be a better quarterback 538 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: than the guy that's played one game. However, I mean, 539 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm if it doesn't work out, if if he doesn't 540 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: give that team a spark. Now, I don't know if 541 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: Gilbert gave the team a spark, or the or the 542 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: atmosphere or playing an undefeated team helped everybody, But I 543 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: think that I'm giving Andy Dalton another chance. But you know, 544 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out, if we see more Arizona 545 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: games that like we saw a couple of weeks ago, 546 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: then yeah, I would I would go to it because 547 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: Gilbert proves he can be ready. But I think the 548 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: Dalton deserves a chance to go back. They signed him 549 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: for this, for this opportunity, Nate, you know, in this offense, man, 550 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: where things got to happen very quick as far as 551 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: getting the ball out of your hands or being able 552 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: to run. This kid did it very well just to 553 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: have played the minimal snaps he played in a NFL game, 554 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: but he's had other snaps in other leagues. What my 555 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: issue with this thing is, you got a little momentum, 556 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: this kid is shown to have a little bit of 557 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: poise about him. Let just let it, let it ride, 558 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: let it go. I mean you're trying, you're trying to 559 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: prepare for the future. Now I have and it. Dalton 560 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: is a part of our future. I am with you, Nick. 561 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: If this dude just sent up him and played the 562 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: rest of the season seven game and then he off 563 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: to another team and that cheated my guy Gilbert out 564 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: of his snaps, I am with that. I'm with the 565 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: youth movement totally, one hundred. I am with the youth movement, 566 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: you know. And I think that's where the conversation comes in. 567 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: Is this going to be your number two quarterback? Is 568 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: Garret Gilbert your number two quarterbackers Andy Dalton, You're number 569 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: two in twenty twenty one, Because at this point it 570 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: looks like Dalton's the one and done. He's going to 571 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: go try and find a starting job elsewhere or he'll 572 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: move on and do whatever he needs to do in 573 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: his career. But as Garret Gilbert, a guy that you 574 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: can keep around and know and feel safe in having 575 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: as the backup next year, even though he's not necessarily 576 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: a young guy, but he's younger than Dalton. See, you're 577 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: making great points, but I don't think that the Cowboys 578 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: are entertaining that right now. I think they feel like 579 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: that they can win the division still going at That's 580 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: what I think that they feel like if they play 581 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: the way they played, if that is what this team 582 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: can do, I think they feel like they can they 583 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: can turn this thing around. You know, you're a game 584 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: and a half back, maybe more, but but if you 585 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: can make up a game on Philly, you're gonna play 586 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 1: him again. So I think that they they feel like 587 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: that this is still in the take, you know, for 588 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: the taking, and who is the better quarterback to help them? 589 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: So you guys are making the outstanding points about the future. 590 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't think the Cowboys are ready for the future. 591 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: I really don't think that they think that way right now. 592 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: Maybe they should, but it sounds like they are trying 593 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: to win this as news just broke just now, Cheeto 594 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: Woozier we just talked about. I'm sorry, Nate, I just 595 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: want to throw this in Cheeto Woozier, we just mentioned 596 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: it at all. He's actuated. Cheeto's activated down, back back 597 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: on the roster now, little I understand, but but he's 598 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: off the right, he's he's back on the roster. He 599 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: couldn't have stayed on ir forever. You can't do that. 600 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: So now he's back on there. So that's another sign. Hey, 601 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: another veteran, get back in here. Let's see what he does. 602 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: I think they're still trying to win. That's my point now, 603 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: and I think that's what the message needs to be 604 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: right now. And I don't disagree with you, Nick, I'm 605 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: just kind of playing defense. I just don't think they're 606 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: ready for the future. Nate, though Nate is I can 607 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: hear like that. He's kind of signed over here, Like, 608 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: get that for it, Nate. You can win with this kid. 609 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: You you can win with Gilbert, you can win fair. 610 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: These coaches play. These coaches play called a masterful game 611 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: due to some technical issues of guys, and I understanding 612 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: that they've messed up in the game. A few guys 613 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: on defense cost them a game and This is what 614 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: is amazing me is the fact that you have a spark. 615 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: Now we go to the spark least. I don't agree 616 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: with it. I don't care what you say. Go with 617 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: the spark. You're saying, Andy Dalton is the spark less 618 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: because of what you saw against Arizona and what you 619 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: saw against Washington. Correct, that's right why I should have 620 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: had a great defense. So I don't hold that Againston. 621 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: Arizona has a great scheme and they played well that day. 622 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: But this kid was under the rest and he worked 623 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: in maneuver in the pocket. It's been a long time 624 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: since I've seen the quarterbacks step up, go to his right, 625 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: throw the ball, step up, go to his left, throw 626 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: the ball. You know, the last two quarterbacks just sitting 627 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: there in hell the ball out. Hey, there's a blitz. 628 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: Come on, man, Nuche's clock was back. He was he 629 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: hadn't changed it from from yeah, from James Madison. He 630 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: still think you have two days to throw it. But um, 631 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, Nate, do you feel like Gilbert if he 632 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: if he does play. You know, we've seen this a 633 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: lot with with the young quarterbacks. They come in, they do, 634 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: they do well early, they have an up game in 635 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: a down game, in an up game and down game. 636 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: But this guy is a little bit more mature than that. Well, 637 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't can tell how he dressed at the podium. 638 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 1: He looked at like Opie. My point was, defensive coordinators 639 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: do they do? Can they figure them out a little 640 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 1: bit more? I'm not I'm not. I'm not totally disagreed 641 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: with you. I guess they can't give you a spark. 642 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: I just wonder. Okay, give Zimmer two weeks from Minnesota, 643 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: and if he Gilbert's the guy, is it gonna Is 644 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: it gonna look look, you know, gonna look different at all. 645 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I I think Anyton deserves it. 646 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: But you know I'm not. He's not heading shoulders above. Okay, 647 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: since you since you said Zim said, I didn't bring 648 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: it up. I didn't want to bring them. But since 649 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: you said Zimm, I'm thinking like Zim. Hey, man, if 650 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: we get out of our pass rush lanes against Gilbert, 651 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: he gonna take off and run. We gotta be disciplined. Hey, 652 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: that's Andy Dalton. Man. Let loose we come with everything 653 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: we got because did dude ain't moving nowhere. We're gonna 654 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: crush him. I don't get that. I don't get that 655 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: out of Andy Dalton. I thought, I mean, I've seen 656 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: him kind of move a little bit. I thought against 657 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: the Giants game, the game they came back, he made 658 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: a heck of a throw to Gallop on the sideline 659 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: because he was rolling that he looked good. He looked 660 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: the good for five minutes. But he's had more than 661 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: five minutes. Okay, Well, this kid has played a whole 662 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: game and all it did was it pressed upon this 663 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton has played five minutes. But Gilbert's played a 664 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: whole game. He's played, He's played five hundred and sixty 665 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: thousand games, and he's a backup for the Dallas Cowboy. 666 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: This kid has played only one game and he's a 667 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: backup for the Dallas Cowboys. Then in the same boat, 668 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: the same well, because who gonna be able to walk 669 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: the waters? And this kid has walked the water just 670 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 1: a little bit better. The time out, they were talking 671 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: about a guy that played four Pro Bowls in his 672 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: career and the guy that is the all time leading 673 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: passer for the now defunct AAF Like, you can't compare 674 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: the two. Yes, he's had one game, Andy Dalton has 675 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: had great games too, Like, how are you gonna say 676 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: that because of one game and they didn't win? Why 677 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: O U t H f U L. What does that spell? 678 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: Just full? I'm with the youth here everything out. I 679 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: just heard it f in the year. I was like, 680 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: damn nat you why oh U t H f U 681 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: L youth full? Garrett Gilbert. Still he's a young what 682 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 1: what he hasn't been He hasn't been playing as much? 683 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: Did you see this guy come to the podium man 684 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: like a twelve year old kid? Like somebody's I thought 685 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: you just said that. It's somebody on somebody on Sunday 686 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: City had substitute teacher vibes with the white button down shirt. 687 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: When I'm on the podium, I'm telling you, I'm telling 688 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: you in Washington, I gotta tell this story. I told 689 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: him on the other show. But in Washington it's pouring 690 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: down rain. We get there. He's just on the practice squad, 691 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: but he's there all practice quad guys go to games 692 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: and he's there and he tries to go out in 693 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: the field and they're saying it's there's no no access 694 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: to the field right now, you can't get to the 695 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: field He's like, well, I'm trying to warm up, and 696 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: they're like, only players, sir. He's like, I'm I'm a player, 697 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: And they didn't believe him. They had to get like 698 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: Bucky to come up. Now, the guy's a six five, 699 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: he's a big guy. Yeah, I mean Nates called him 700 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: a twelve year old man. If he's that age, man 701 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: they sign him up. But I'm just saying they didn't. 702 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: He didn't look like a player to these you know, 703 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: Washington security guards or whatever. But he looked like a 704 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: player in the game. I'll give you that. I mean, 705 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: he impressed me with some of the runs. He impressed 706 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: me with the way he was kind of just in 707 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: the pocket. Um that throw to a Marii Cooper that 708 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: was an amazing throat. So I'm not going to argue 709 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: with you that that he's got something. I just think 710 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: that Andy Dalton, he's played, you know, he's played one 711 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: game there in Arizona that was not good. Washington thing 712 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: was such a mess without Zack Martin playing against them 713 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: in the rain, they terrible. He doesn't remember that, so 714 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter. And then he moved forward. I 715 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: think that I think Zack Marton don't remember. You're right, Zack, 716 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: don't remember you threw that in? Just yeah, sometimes that's 717 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: all that's all you need, just to throw it out there. Hey, 718 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: he's got a short memory. And whenever it comes to 719 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: that game, at least regardless, I think, I think Andy 720 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: Dalton's gonna have a shorter leash. And I'm kind of 721 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm halfway in between. I really am. I see the 722 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: reasoning with Andy Dalton, though I would like to see 723 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert. I want to see Garrett Gilbert more. I 724 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: do just for fun, just because of where we're at. 725 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: And I know you got to go try and win 726 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: the division. And I still think Andy Dalton gives you 727 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: that best chance. But overall, it's gonna be a shorter 728 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: leash no matter what. Now we go for it. I 729 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: was gonna ask Nate question. Nate's shaking his head. And 730 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: yesterday on y'all show, I heard you guys were saying, 731 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: I mean, the title of your show is we don't 732 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: we don't accept moral victories. Is that was that you? 733 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: Or was that Jesse or a combination of both. I 734 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: don't play, I don't, I don't I'm not a men, Jesse, 735 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: we don't play more the moral victory. We we let 736 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, other guys do that right now. See, in 737 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: the real world, if you do your job halfway, everybody say, oh, 738 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: it's okay. But in the in the world of sports 739 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: that we play halfway get you cut, but halfway more 740 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: victors can't be for a player because if I go 741 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: out there and say, old cap, I play well enough 742 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: for the more victory, then all of a sudden they 743 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 1: replacing me, And all of a sudden, I'm like, wow, 744 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: but we got a moral victory. Come on, man, work 745 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: in the real world. But but it was a moral victory, 746 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: you know. And I mean, how are you saying that 747 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: moral victories aren't aren't important? Because a moral victory is confidence? 748 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: Because let me ask you this, do you guys feel 749 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: better but you're making up as you go? No, no, 750 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: that's what you're making up as you go. But do 751 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: you think the cowboys when you look up moral victories, 752 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: please somebody look up more victors? They say, more victors 753 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: equals confidence. Come on, now, dog doesn't know victors gets 754 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: you cut, get you fired? About eight? How about eight 755 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: or more? Nine? Moral victors? No? No, no no, no, no, 756 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: it's not about accepting that that's not there's one thing 757 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: to say, Hey, this is great as long as we 758 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: play close, it's fine. That's not the case. What I'm 759 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: trying to say is you can build off of that. 760 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: Do you feel better about the Cowboys this now than 761 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: you did three days ago? That's all I'm asking. Do 762 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: you feel better about what you saw? That has nothing 763 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: to do with morals? What I see as confidence. Confidence 764 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: is a word that stands alone. Moral comes from stand 765 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: with anything else. Is your moral confidence come from success 766 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: of doing something okay and completing it? What I'm asking 767 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: a confidence come. Do you feel better about the Cowboys? 768 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: Do you? Kyle? Do you feel better about this team 769 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: after what you saw? I feel better about individual players. 770 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: I feel better about individual players. The Cowboys as a 771 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: whole loss, I don't feel good about that. I feel 772 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: good about individual player. That's why you won't Dalton because 773 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: you think he makes them a better moral team. I 774 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: won't the other kid because I think they can win 775 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: with him. I think they can win with Dalton. I 776 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: think it's a reverse for Nick. I think he thought 777 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: the same the same thing the other way around. I 778 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: think Dalton gave him a chance to win, and Garrett 779 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: was the moral thing. Right. Well, what I'm trying to 780 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: say is is that you can build off a game 781 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: like that. I'm not saying you accept you can't. Okay, 782 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: I agree. I'm not saying build yeah, not saying I'm 783 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: staying build. Okay, you wanted to win that game. It 784 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: hurt when you lost. Yeah. What what I'm trying to say? Okay, Nate, 785 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: you have kids, I have kids, You had kids, go 786 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: to go to school. Let's say one of your kids 787 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: has been struggling with grades, I mean, just can't pass 788 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 1: the struggling, doesn't care, doesn't do what dumb dumb. Yeah, 789 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: but then you start working on him and he comes 790 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: back and says, you know what, I got a seventy 791 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: seven on a test. Hey, that's better improvement? Are we are? 792 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: We excited about it? No? We need to keep getting better. 793 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: But if this is where this is where you are, 794 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: let's keep going from that. I'm not going to accept this, 795 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: but let's your morals keeps building, keep building, keep building on. 796 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is is a moral victory can help. 797 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: If they ain't more victory, they ain't them right now, now, 798 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: keep building on it. Because sometimes that's why I say 799 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: I like certain players. I see certain players, and I 800 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: like that these certain players are getting better and better. 801 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: The moral victory comes from like, Okay, we played this 802 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: team pretty good as the Dallas Cowboys, but we lost. It. 803 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: Ain't no more victories a loss. The moral victories is 804 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: for you guys. And I'm not an English major, so 805 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: I can't break now moral victories. But I can't tell 806 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 1: you that they are building on what they've had. They're 807 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 1: building on the success they have seen themselves play better. 808 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: Now can they put together two and three quarters? Now? 809 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 1: Can they close out games? That sounds like they're most 810 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna agree. We're gonna agree to disagree. No, no, 811 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: we actually agree to agree. I think we were agreeing 812 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: because you agree to disagree, you're just saying because I 813 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: don't more love for teens. We are, like, right, I 814 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: have never gone more time in this show without going 815 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: to our second break, just this second. So we're gonna 816 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: take a break. We're gonna come back and wrap things 817 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: up on talking and come back from a moral break. 818 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: We come back from a moral break, all right, Come on, man, 819 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: come on, We're bating a tasty treat that's sweeping air 820 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: waves and taste buds. 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See more, do 858 00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: more slor rappid things up here on Talking Cowboys. Nate Newton, 859 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, Kyle Yeoman's and what is a bye week 860 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: edition and Nate, moral victories are non existent for you. 861 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 1: But that's fine. We've got that out of the way, 862 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: thank you. We also have a moral victory this week 863 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 1: because you get the Cheetah o woozier back. Do you 864 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: think this improves the secondary? Also, what you're saying he 865 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 1: can't play, he keeps saying he can't play. Well, he 866 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: can't play this week. But if he can play, let's 867 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: let's buildn't getting better. Let's saying Bill don't getting better? 868 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 1: Then instead of trying to get a more victor, I 869 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: don't know how to open my hips and run. This week, 870 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: I got a more victory. I mean, Nate, you can 871 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,240 Speaker 1: keep you can keep saying that, but you're actually making 872 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: your own point. You're actually making my point every time 873 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: you say it. Every time you keep saying building on that, 874 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: they build off that. I'm telling you the truth. I'm 875 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: telling you the truth. Mental thing is moral victory. I'm 876 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 1: telling you the truth. Hey, Jamar to be me, Kyle 877 00:46:53,000 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: Yeoman and Isaiah saying quit here. No. I mean, like 878 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: you can keep saying all that, but like he keeps 879 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: making my point for me. If you feel better about 880 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: the football team now, then then you know what, there's 881 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: something I feel better about certain players. I feel good 882 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,240 Speaker 1: about the kid Gilbert. Do you feel good about another guy? 883 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,439 Speaker 1: You won't. Come on, man, I think I'm not gonna 884 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: get it. Do you think the defense play I don't 885 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: think the defense played better because of Gilbert. I think 886 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: defense played better because yeah, I think Yallamar played better. 887 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: I think I think uh D Love brought a second 888 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: game and he brought some people to the party. Layton 889 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: Vandersch looked all right the thirteen plays that Sean Lee 890 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: gott because okay, now everybody else all because of Gilbert 891 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: or do maybe they just played better? I just think 892 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: none they're gonna play, but they played better. Individual players 893 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: played better. Individual player. I didn't see everybody played better 894 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: because we did. We want to be discussing dbs. Guess what, 895 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: everybody defensive back the play better. We get more of 896 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: this tomorrow because we are way overtime. Chris Beam's got 897 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: things to do. Isaiah standbacks in the building. He'll be 898 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 1: here Happer later on. Yeah, we've got to go, Reno 899 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: got to do. Yeah, we know what you've got to do. 900 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: After what you started the show. I'm gonna go get 901 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: me I'm gonna git me some gospel songs. I'm gonna 902 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 1: get the cloth, find someds. By the way, everybody's sending 903 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: Newton your favorite lamb BABYFW he needs to find some CDs. 904 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: Not not Lamb, No Kirk Franklin. No, maybe some Kirk Franklin. Yeah, 905 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 1: how about that? Why not? I'm a stomp on you, right, 906 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm a stomp on you right, man. Don't for Chris Beef, 907 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: for Dicky Man. I'm calling back k Why We'll be 908 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: back kyin Black Khyam, Mike K what. This has been 909 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,280 Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 910 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club