WEBVTT - BREAKING NEWS: Mitch McConnell Stepping Down

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<v Speaker 1>We have breaking news.

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch McConnell will step down as the Republican leader in

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<v Speaker 2>the Senate in November.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Associated Press.

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<v Speaker 2>Just ran this headline a moment ago, coming a day

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<v Speaker 2>after we watched the driveway outside the West Wing, a

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<v Speaker 2>big meeting with the Big Four, of course, on a

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<v Speaker 2>budget and potentially funding our allies in Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone came out except Mitch McConnell. He got in the

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<v Speaker 2>suv and went back to the capital, of course, knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that we'd be talking about this today, but also potentially

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<v Speaker 2>giving Mike Johnson a little bit of cover so they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to publicly disagree about went on inside. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's something we want to talk about with Wendy Benjaminson.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Washington's senior editor is with us here. Wendy,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not what we expected to be talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to ask you about what happened in

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan last night because it's important. But Mitch McConnell, my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>a record run in this powerful post. What does it

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<v Speaker 2>say that he's stepping down, that he's too old to

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<v Speaker 2>keep doing the job.

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<v Speaker 1>The parties left.

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<v Speaker 3>Him well, obviously we don't know yet, because all we

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<v Speaker 3>you and I know so far as the saidline from

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<v Speaker 3>the AP and I'm sure we're all scrambling to find

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<v Speaker 3>out exactly the answer to that question.

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<v Speaker 4>It very well could be his age.

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<v Speaker 3>He's had those two public incidents, at least two public

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<v Speaker 3>incidents where he just.

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<v Speaker 4>Seemed to freeze and lose.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if the ability to speak or the

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<v Speaker 3>ability for his brain to catch up, but clearly that

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<v Speaker 3>struck us as an age related problem.

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<v Speaker 4>He is eighty two years old, well was.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor did make the point that it followed a fall,

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<v Speaker 2>he had a spell.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>It may have could have been related or something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>so right, but clearly it certainly gave the impression.

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<v Speaker 4>Of an old leader.

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<v Speaker 3>And then also there is this sense now that the

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<v Speaker 3>transformation of the Republican Party with Trump coming back as

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<v Speaker 3>the front runner and probable nominee, is complete, that that

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<v Speaker 3>transformation is done, and what we all thought of conservatives,

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<v Speaker 3>what being conservative for the last thirty forty years, no

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<v Speaker 3>longer means that. And Mitch McConnell is, you know, one

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<v Speaker 3>of those lions of the Senate really into procedure, really

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<v Speaker 3>into trying to do bipartisan where he can, trying to

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<v Speaker 3>stick it to Democrats where he can. And it's a

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not a let's own the Libs sort of

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<v Speaker 3>attitude that a lot of new Republicans Trump Republicans have,

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<v Speaker 3>and so he may What we may find in our

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<v Speaker 3>reporting today is that he's just decided that a party

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<v Speaker 3>left him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>He's watched Donald Trump disparage his wife publicly. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 2>lost apparently the argument over Ukraine funding, at least in

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<v Speaker 2>the way he wanted it to be done.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You wonder if he stays on then past the election,

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<v Speaker 2>is he going to be having lunch with Nancy Pelosi

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the old days?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? They probably, They probably will. I mean they have

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<v Speaker 4>known each.

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<v Speaker 1>Other, said something incredibly important. Though the transformation is complete.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the last hold out exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't I think he's he may be worried

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<v Speaker 3>about leading the party after the twenty twenty four election.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if Donald Trump wins, well, if Biden wins,

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<v Speaker 3>he's the minority leader. If Trump wins, and I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't say that, if Democrats control the Senate, he's

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<v Speaker 3>the minority leader. If Republicans flip the Senate, he's the

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<v Speaker 3>majority leader, but always with a guy who doesn't see

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<v Speaker 3>the world in the White House the same way that

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<v Speaker 3>mcconnald does.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And if yeah, my goodness, if Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>the next president of the United States, he could be

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<v Speaker 2>dead in the water. And we are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>asking a lot of questions about the role that Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump played in this.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, he could have given him an ultimatum.

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<v Speaker 2>We have no idea what happened behind the scenes here,

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<v Speaker 2>because this is quite the breaker if you're just joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch McConnell's stepping down or at least announcing that he

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<v Speaker 2>will as the Senate Republican leader in November.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, we know that the McConnell team and

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<v Speaker 3>the Trump team have been talking recently behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 3>about whether McConnell will endorse Trump. Yes, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>if mc donald does endorse Trump, I'm going back to

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<v Speaker 3>that lion of the Senate school kind of guy. If

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is clearly the Republican nominee, then McConnell will hold

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<v Speaker 3>his nose, explain to his.

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<v Speaker 4>Wife and you know, and go.

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<v Speaker 3>Ahead and endorse them, because the public he's a loyal Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>When you see this headline, though, then you start because

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<v Speaker 2>that has been the big conversation. Is this his way

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<v Speaker 2>of saying, no, I'm not endorsing Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>Why I don't know?

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<v Speaker 2>That would be something that would be something talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the last holdout As we spend time with Wendy Benjaminson,

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<v Speaker 2>this is remarkable and we'll have a lot more to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about with our panel. Rick and Genie will be

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<v Speaker 2>here about ten minutes, and of course we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get their take. They'll be here and even less than that, Wendy,

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<v Speaker 2>the Michigan primary is behind us.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear why you think it was because

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<v Speaker 2>we knew all I guess we all thought we knew

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump and Joe Biden were going to win, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And they did, and they did.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't mistake that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you look under the hood here, it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>come without a little bit of pain, especially for Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred thousand uncommitted.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred thousands essentially protest votes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it really shows us for the very first time

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<v Speaker 3>the depth of concern among both voters of color, Muslim

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<v Speaker 3>American voters, and young voters who are extremely worried about

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<v Speaker 3>or who want to at least put Joe Biden on

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<v Speaker 3>notice that he cannot take them for granted. That he

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<v Speaker 3>has to take steps on the Middle East, and he

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<v Speaker 3>has to take other steps toward things that they've wanted

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<v Speaker 3>that he promised them in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>The interesting thing was that some of those hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 3>protest votes did not just come from the Muslim American

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<v Speaker 3>sort of enclaves of Dearborn and places like that. It

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<v Speaker 3>came from ann Arbor, It came from East Landsing. Those

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<v Speaker 3>are college towns and they have a, you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>more liberal population than a lot of Michigan, but also

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of those young people who are extremely dissatisfied help.

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<v Speaker 2>To get him there in twenty you know, we hear

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<v Speaker 2>the analysis young people don't vote anyway, They're going to

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<v Speaker 2>probably sleep in that day. But I wonder if this

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<v Speaker 2>starts to resonate in other college towns like Madison, where

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<v Speaker 2>the president needs those votes to win in razor thin

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<v Speaker 2>margins exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've seen going all the way back to Bill

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<v Speaker 3>Clinton and especially with Barack Obama, young people will vote

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<v Speaker 3>when they believe they have a reason to vote. When

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<v Speaker 3>they will believe I mean, you always have a reason

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<v Speaker 3>to vote, as I tell my kids. But they but

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<v Speaker 3>they when they feel inspired, when they feel that they

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<v Speaker 3>are going to have a choice to pick a leader,

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<v Speaker 3>even if it's to vote against Donald Trump. But then

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<v Speaker 3>you have to give them a good reason to vote

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<v Speaker 3>for something. And they're not a lot of them, at

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<v Speaker 3>least are not seeing it. You know, the news for

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump wasn't all one hundred percent Rosie last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Either's Nikki Hilly is still getting a significant portion of

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<v Speaker 3>the Republican primary voters, which tells you that in the

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<v Speaker 3>general election, there will be Republicans who will look for

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<v Speaker 3>an alternative.

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<v Speaker 4>Whether it's RFK.

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<v Speaker 3>Junior, whether it's You'll Stein, whether it's Joe Biden, They're

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<v Speaker 3>going to look something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks we saw like we saw in Georgia, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>where they're Republican all the way down the ballot, but

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<v Speaker 2>they never or they wrote in someone for president. Wendy

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<v Speaker 2>Benjaminson is with us on balance of power. That's with

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine percent of the ballots counted, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty one to thirteen eighty one percent of thirteen percent

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<v Speaker 2>for Joe Biden running against himself almost in this case.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of interesting. And he's got a big data

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<v Speaker 2>mars going to the border. Yes, so is Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>They're both going to really understand how this happened. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be one hundreds miles apart. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Biden is going to Brownsville, which is on the seople

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<v Speaker 2>are going to see this as a standoff though, like

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<v Speaker 2>they plan it that.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, right, yeah, right, It will be sort of a

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<v Speaker 3>standoff on the Mexican border, so you know, cue the

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<v Speaker 3>Clint Eastwood music. But it's it will be interesting because

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<v Speaker 3>they will both be trying to say the border is important.

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<v Speaker 3>They will both be trying to say I can fix it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it will be a matter of who who.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden need to show up with something or do

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<v Speaker 2>you save that for the state of the Union and

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<v Speaker 2>say I just got back from the border and I

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<v Speaker 2>am taking this action here tonight, or does he need

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<v Speaker 2>to say more than hey here, I am take my

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<v Speaker 2>picture tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think what he'll do tomorrow is probably, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>smack around Republicans a little bit for tanking the last

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<v Speaker 3>bipartisan border bill. Explain that he can't do it with

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<v Speaker 3>executive orders because he, as he said earlier this week, Dad,

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<v Speaker 3>fixing the border requires personnel, which requires money, which requires appropriations,

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<v Speaker 3>which requires Congress. So that I think will be his

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<v Speaker 3>message down there. I want to fix it. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>little late to the party, but he wants to fix it.

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<v Speaker 3>And there we go.

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<v Speaker 2>We're hearing the voice now of Mitch McConnell, and we

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<v Speaker 2>want to bring you live to the Senate floor. As

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<v Speaker 2>we just told you, he's announced that he will step

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<v Speaker 2>down as leader in November.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's listen live on Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a certain intro spectrum that accompanies the grieving process.

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<v Speaker 6>Perhaps it is God of reminding you of your own

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<v Speaker 6>life's journey to reprioritage the impact of the world that

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<v Speaker 6>we will all inevitably leave behind. I turned eighty two

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<v Speaker 6>last week. The end of my contributions are closer than

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<v Speaker 6>i'd prefer. My career in the United States Center began

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<v Speaker 6>amidst the Reagan Revolution. The truth is, when I got here,

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<v Speaker 6>I was just happy if anybody remembered my name. President

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<v Speaker 6>Reagan called me Mitchell O'Donnell close enough. I thought. My wife, Elaine,

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<v Speaker 6>and I got married on President Reagan's birthday, February sixth.

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<v Speaker 6>It's probably not the most romantic thing to admit, but

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<v Speaker 6>Reagan meant.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot to both of us.

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<v Speaker 6>For thirty one years, Elaine has been the love of

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<v Speaker 6>my life, and I'm eternally grateful to have her by

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<v Speaker 6>my side. I think back to my first days in

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<v Speaker 6>the Senate with deep appreciation for the time that helped

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<v Speaker 6>shape my view of the world. I'm unconflicted about the

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<v Speaker 6>good within our country and the irreplaceable role we play

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<v Speaker 6>as the leader of the free world. It's why I

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<v Speaker 6>work so hard to get the National Security Package passed

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<v Speaker 6>earlier this month. Believe me, I know the politics within

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<v Speaker 6>my party at this particular.

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<v Speaker 1>Moment in time.

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<v Speaker 6>I have many faults, this understanding politics is not one of.

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<v Speaker 6>That said, I believe more strongly than ever that America's

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<v Speaker 6>global leadership is essential to preserving the Shining City on

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<v Speaker 6>a Hill that Ronald Reagan discussed. As long as I'm

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<v Speaker 6>drawing breath on this earth, I will defend American exceptionalism.

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<v Speaker 6>So as I've been thinking about when I would delivered

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<v Speaker 6>some news to the Senate, I always imagined a moment

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<v Speaker 6>when I had total clarity and peace about the sunset

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<v Speaker 6>of my work, a moment when I'm certain I have

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<v Speaker 6>helped preserve the ideals I so strongly believe that day

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<v Speaker 6>arrived today. My goals when I was narrowly elected to

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<v Speaker 6>the Senate back in nineteen eighty four were fairly modest.

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<v Speaker 6>Do good job with the people of Kentucky and convince

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<v Speaker 6>them that by doing so, they might rehire me for

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<v Speaker 6>a second term. That was it. That was the plan.

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<v Speaker 6>If you would have told me forty years later that

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<v Speaker 6>I would stand before you as the longest serving Senate

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<v Speaker 6>leader in American history, frankly, I would have thought you'd

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<v Speaker 6>lost your mind. I have the honor of representing Kentucky

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<v Speaker 6>in the Senate longer than anyone else in our state history.

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<v Speaker 6>I just never could have imagined, never could have imagined

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<v Speaker 6>that happening when I arrived here in nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 6>At forty two, I'm filled with heartfelt gratitude and humility

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<v Speaker 6>for the opportunity. But now it's twenty twenty four, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>now eighty two. As Ecclesiastics as these tells us, to

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<v Speaker 6>everything there is a season and a time to every

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<v Speaker 6>purpose under heaven. To serve Kentucky in the Senate has

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<v Speaker 6>been the honor of my life. To lead my Republican

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<v Speaker 6>colleagues has been the highest privilege. But one of life's

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<v Speaker 6>most underappreciated talents is to know when it's time to

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<v Speaker 6>move on to life's next chapter. So I stand before

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<v Speaker 6>you today, mister President, and my colleagues to say this

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<v Speaker 6>will be my last term as Republican leader to the Senate.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not going anywhere anytime soon. However, I'll complete my

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<v Speaker 6>job my colleagues has given me until we select a

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<v Speaker 6>new leader November and they take the helm next January.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll finish the job that people of Kentucky hired me

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<v Speaker 6>to do. As well, i will be it from a

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<v Speaker 6>different seat, and I'm actually looking forward to that. So

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<v Speaker 6>it's time for me to think about another season. I

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<v Speaker 6>love the Senate sent our life. There may be more

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<v Speaker 6>distinguished members of this body throughout our history, but our

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<v Speaker 6>doubt there were any with any more admiration for the Senate.

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<v Speaker 6>After all this time, I still get a thrill walking

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<v Speaker 6>into the Capitol, and especially on this venerable floor, knowing

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<v Speaker 6>that we each of us have the honor to represent

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<v Speaker 6>our states and do the important work of our country,

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<v Speaker 6>but father time remains undefeated. I'm no longer that a

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<v Speaker 6>young man fitting in the back hoping colleagues would remember

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<v Speaker 6>my name. It's time the next generation of the leadership.

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<v Speaker 6>As Shenry Place said in this very body in eighteen fifty,

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<v Speaker 6>the Constitution of the United States was not made merely

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<v Speaker 6>for the generation that then existed, but for posterity, unlimited, undefined, endless,

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<v Speaker 6>perpetual posterity.

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<v Speaker 1>So time rolls on.

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<v Speaker 6>There will be a new custodian of this great institution

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<v Speaker 6>next year. I won't surprise you know, I tend to

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<v Speaker 6>turn this job over to a Republican majority of life.

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<v Speaker 6>I have full confidence in my conference to choose my

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<v Speaker 6>replacement and lead our country forward. There'll be other times

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<v Speaker 6>to reminisce. I'm immensely proud of the accomplishments I've played

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<v Speaker 6>some role in obtaining for the American people. Today is

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<v Speaker 6>not today to discuss all of that, because, as I

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<v Speaker 6>said earlier, I'm not going anywhere anytime soon. There are

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<v Speaker 6>many challenges we must meet to deliver for the American people,

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<v Speaker 6>and each will have my full effort and attention. I

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<v Speaker 6>still have enough guests in my tank to thoroughly disappoint

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<v Speaker 6>my critics, and I intend to do so with all

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<v Speaker 6>the enthusiasm with which they become accustomed. So to my colleagues,

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<v Speaker 6>thank you for in trusting me with our success. It's

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<v Speaker 6>been an honor to work with each of you. There'll

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<v Speaker 6>be plenty of time to express my gratitude in greater

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<v Speaker 6>detail as I sprint towards the finish line, which is

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<v Speaker 6>now in sight. How are you poor?

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Mitch McConnell there live in the chamber, the majority leader,

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<v Speaker 2>once now minority leader. We'll be stepping down from his

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<v Speaker 2>leadership post in November. As we brought you here just

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<v Speaker 2>a short time ago. A breaking situation today in Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>d C. I would love to just get a quick

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<v Speaker 2>thought from Wendy Benjaminson. Wendy before you leave us. The

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<v Speaker 2>news broke while you were in the chair here. We

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<v Speaker 2>just listened to that together, A very emotional addressing How

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<v Speaker 2>would you describe it? Does he feel defeated or does

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<v Speaker 2>he feel like he's leaving on top?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't think he feels defeated.

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<v Speaker 3>My impression was sort of confirmed everything you and I

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about right before we went to that speech,

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<v Speaker 3>which is that he really he and Nancy Pelosi too.

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<v Speaker 3>They are sort of such creatures of that institution in

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<v Speaker 3>the way that we've always understood that institution to be,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean almost part of the furniture, if

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<v Speaker 3>you will, because these the chambers did not operate without.

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<v Speaker 4>One of them, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet he's he's giving the sense that what I

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<v Speaker 3>said before, that you know, the things have changed. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a new century, this is a new way of

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<v Speaker 3>approaching politics. Seniority doesn't guarantee access to being junior, doesn't,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, deny access. And the whole place is run

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<v Speaker 3>in a much different way than it was in the

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<v Speaker 3>Reagan era. And he must have mentioned Ronald Reagan three

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<v Speaker 3>or four times there. He longs for that era and

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<v Speaker 3>that era doesn't exist anymore, you know. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I love him or hate him. He really is an institutionalist,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think he feels like, you know, he's either

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<v Speaker 3>too old or too out of style to run that

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<v Speaker 3>chamber anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for sticking around with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy I always look forward to Wendy Benjaminson's insights Bloomberg's

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Senior Editor.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Wendy.

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<v Speaker 2>As we assembled our panel, didn't think we'd be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this, but need to hear from Rick Davis and

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<v Speaker 2>Genie Shanzanoh Bloomberg Politics contributors on news that Mitch McConnell

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<v Speaker 2>is in fact stepping down as leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky spent a number of years.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, as we all know working with John McCain

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States Senate, you have every sense of

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<v Speaker 2>the importance of this particular tenure. What does it mean

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<v Speaker 2>that it's coming to an end?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think what Wen you just said about it's

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<v Speaker 5>really the end of an error. We saw Nancy Pelosi

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<v Speaker 5>and her eighties be retired, and now we have Mitch

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<v Speaker 5>Mcconnelady two retiring from this leadership post. We're going to

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<v Speaker 5>have a whole new generation that comes into power power

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<v Speaker 5>positions in Washington in the very near future, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think that era is going to be ushered in is.

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<v Speaker 1>To youthful leadership.

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<v Speaker 5>It'll be interesting to see what happens in the Senate

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<v Speaker 5>as far as the elections go and whether or not

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<v Speaker 5>we're picking a minority leader or a majority leader in

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<v Speaker 5>this cycle. But at the end of the day, we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to lose a master strategist at legislation and politics.

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<v Speaker 5>I was actually happy to hear that he talked about

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<v Speaker 5>his grasp of politics. I've never met a member of

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<v Speaker 5>the United States Senate who knew more polling and strategy

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<v Speaker 5>than Mitch McConnell did. He was a real study in politics,

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<v Speaker 5>and for people like me that helped have conversations with

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<v Speaker 5>him about the impacts of what happened in the United

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<v Speaker 5>States Senate. They weren't in a vacuum politically. He calculated

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<v Speaker 5>the politics of every move he made.

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<v Speaker 2>Fascinating the quote that stuck half to me, Genie, the

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<v Speaker 2>end of my contributions are closer than I'd prefer. And

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<v Speaker 2>you wonder how much of this had to do with

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<v Speaker 2>his age or the impact of Donald Trump on his party.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you can't separate the two.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, I think I agree with you. I

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<v Speaker 7>think it's really hard to separate the two. And I

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<v Speaker 7>was struck by that as well, because, of course, this

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<v Speaker 7>is a party that has changed enormously in the last

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<v Speaker 7>several years, but certainly since Mitch McConnell took the helm

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<v Speaker 7>in the Senate and since he joined the Senate, this

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<v Speaker 7>is not the same Republican Party of Mitch McConnell's time,

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<v Speaker 7>and we have seen challenges to his leadership in the

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<v Speaker 7>Senate very very recently, and so I think that's part

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<v Speaker 7>of it. And I think we have to take him

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<v Speaker 7>at his word that he feels like it is now

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<v Speaker 7>time to hand over the mantle.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is something so many of.

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<v Speaker 7>Our leaders are grappling with right now, right up to

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<v Speaker 7>our presidential leading contenders and Joe Biden and Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 7>as you see new generations saying wait a minute, is

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<v Speaker 7>it time for you to exit stage left? So so

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<v Speaker 7>many you know of our leaders grappling with this challenge.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think Mitch McConnell makes a really important point.

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<v Speaker 7>Part of being a leader is having a succession plan.

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<v Speaker 7>And we know that he's got the three Johns in waiting,

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<v Speaker 7>and I would hope a couple of the women as

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<v Speaker 7>well in the Senate leadership on the Republican side who

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<v Speaker 7>may be able to fill his shoes. But that's a

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<v Speaker 7>critical part of being a leader, is knowing when to

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<v Speaker 7>exit and hand over the mantle to the next generation.

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<v Speaker 7>He is right about that part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think about the succession plan here? Rick?

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<v Speaker 2>It's always been about the three Johns in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>recent history, Barasso, Foon and Cornn.

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<v Speaker 1>Will it in fact be one of them? It could be.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no question that the caucus itself is going through

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<v Speaker 5>some turmoil. We saw attacks against Mitch McConnell earlier in

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<v Speaker 5>the year related to his efforts to try and past

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<v Speaker 5>Ukraine funding, and so I think you'd have to sort

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<v Speaker 5>of see it as an opportunistic situation. Obviously, the three Johns,

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<v Speaker 5>who have been participating in leadership for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 5>know how the strings are pulled, understand how to get

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<v Speaker 5>legislation passed, understand the dynamic within the caucus probably better

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<v Speaker 5>than anyone else. But there are other people who have

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<v Speaker 5>ambitions in leadership, people like Tom Tillis, who I think

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<v Speaker 5>have studied Mitch McConnell's leadership for quite some time and

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<v Speaker 5>may be ready to emerge. And so I think you

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<v Speaker 5>can see also potentially a right flank attack. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>Ted Cruz and some of his buddies have been very

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<v Speaker 5>vocally opposed to Mitch McConnell and may put up a

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<v Speaker 5>candidate that represents their point of view.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you wonder, Genie, with all the talk lately of

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<v Speaker 2>conversations happening that might bring Mitch McConnell to a Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump endorsement, which we talked about yesterday and some think

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<v Speaker 2>is inevitable. Was this this way of saying no, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to be part of this.

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<v Speaker 7>I was thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think it's a hard call.

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<v Speaker 7>I think I veer on the side that Mitch McConnell

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<v Speaker 7>is a real institutionalist and he is somebody who is

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<v Speaker 7>deeply committed to the Republican Party. Since he committed to

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<v Speaker 7>supporting whoever is the nominee, I believe he will probably

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<v Speaker 7>in the end support Donald Trump. He may hold his

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<v Speaker 7>nose like some other voters and do that, but I

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<v Speaker 7>think he will as Donald Trump goes to take that

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<v Speaker 7>mantle as the nominee this year. Again, you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>would also again just let's add to the list of

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<v Speaker 7>possible successors Ernst and Iowa, Shelley Moore Capito in West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 7>There are women in the House Republican leadership who could

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<v Speaker 7>really play a very important role. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 7>in addition to all those folks that Rick just mentioned

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<v Speaker 7>in the Three Johns, I think we also have to

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<v Speaker 7>look to them because they have a very sort of

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<v Speaker 7>interesting perspective and a path to the Senate and a

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<v Speaker 7>lot that they could do in their house republic I mean, sorry,

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<v Speaker 7>Senate Republican leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, right, yeah, a lot to consider here as we

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<v Speaker 2>move into this election cycle or further into it. Rick,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you see a McConnell endorsement of

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<v Speaker 2>Trump in the offing, does he want to be remembered

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<v Speaker 2>as a tried and true Republican or in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who said no.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think it was an accident that he wistfully

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<v Speaker 5>discussed on his floor speech just now how much he

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<v Speaker 5>was impacted by Ronald Reagan's leadership, basically given credit to

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<v Speaker 5>Rob Reagan for his marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reality is that is.

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<v Speaker 5>The Republican Party that Mitch McConnell has fought so hard

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<v Speaker 5>to be successful in the isolationist policies of Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 5>may as well be in the Democratic Party, right, That's

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<v Speaker 5>what he's fought his entire career, And so it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>surprise me that in conjunction with a decision that I

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<v Speaker 5>suspect has a lot more to do with being eighty

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<v Speaker 5>two years old than anything political. Right now, Remember he's

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<v Speaker 5>had some challenges with his health this last year. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>that he uses the opportunity to not feel compelled to

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<v Speaker 5>have to play in this presidential election and may just

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<v Speaker 5>skip an endorsement.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's Donald Trump's to.

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<v Speaker 2>Have Rick Davis and Genie Shanzino with the Instant Analysis.

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<v Speaker 2>As we learned, Mitch McConnell will be stepping down from

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<v Speaker 2>his leadership hosts in November. Not going anywhere anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 2>He says he will continue to serve the state of Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 2>this from a different seat.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Bloomberg