1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: What is going on? My people? How are we doing? 2 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: As I record this early evening, I guess you'd consider 3 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: it about six on Thursday. We are officially under a 4 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: week away for the NFL season. If I was recording 5 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: this next week at the same time on Thursday, they're 6 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: being it might be in the second half Chiefs Texans. 7 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: So football, even in these weird times, is you know, 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: back in the air. We'll use as a loose term. Uh, 9 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's urgent. I haven't even watched Hard 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Knocks yet this week, and it's late Thursday night, so 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: maybe I'll do that tonight after I bang out this show. 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: But we still got a lot going on, and uh, 13 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm ready. I just football on my TV. NFL football. 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: I guess the SEC and the Big Well and some 15 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: of those schools don't start playing for a couple more weeks, 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: which is weird. Usually this weekend is kind of a 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: big blowout football weekend. Remember last year was Auburn Oregon 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: justin Herbert. This year it was gonna be Alabama USC. 19 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: I think next week. I was actually supposed to go 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: next week Oregon Ohio State, but Pact Wealth canceled started 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: a big ten so no football for me, just hanging 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: out and drinking. I guess in Corona because there's not 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: really many places to go in No Vegas this weekend. 24 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: But I got some things to talk about today. I 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: want to dive into Josh Rosen off the top. I 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: have some thoughts on the whole situation. Adam Schefter had 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: to report today that the Dolphins are looking to trade him. 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: Belichick officially named Cam Newton, and I think it's very symbolic, 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: the Cam Newton deal that he made. UH signed him 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: for five thousand dollars of what good teams do and 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: what bad teams do. And some are patients, some are 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: and the patient teams consistently win in the league. Then 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: there was something that I woke up to today. I 34 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: think it's called a Woes bomb. He tweeted that Steve Nash, 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: I mean I was a I'm a huge fan of 36 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: Steve Nash as a basketball player was named the head 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: coach of the Brooklyn Nets. Obviously, the Brooklyn Nets now 38 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: have Kevin Durant, actually had him all season, but he 39 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: has a torn achilles and it got me thinking. I 40 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: was on a jog this morning, I'm like, you know, 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: I want to how can I make this kind of 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 1: a football angle? And then I realized, like, is there 43 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: ever a chance? Now Jason Kidd, who was you know 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: growing up in northern California. He was like my dad's 45 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: favorite player. We were big. He was a call season 46 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: ticket holder. Jason Kidd became a head coach. Now, Steve Nash, 47 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are Hall of famers. Could a 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: guy like Peyton Manning or Drew Brees ever become a 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: head coach? And uh I wrote out with some reasons 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: why that probably won't take place? And then of course 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: the middlecoff mail back at John middlecoff Ill bang out 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: some of your questions. For those of you that have 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: I greatly appreciate it. For those of you that haven't, 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: and like the show, it helps, the sales team, helps 55 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: the buzz of the podcast, for the algorithms things that 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: I can't quite understand, I us know it works. If 57 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: you could please go to UH go to the iTunes 58 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: three and out individual podcast. I know some of you 59 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: listening on the Herds UH stream on his podcast subscribed 60 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: to my podcast, which is the same show, but it's 61 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: got its own podcast. Leave a review and UH I 62 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: greatly appreciate it. Okay, let's let's dive into Josh Rosen 63 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: and let's just get some things out on the table. 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: I think we're all somewhat products of the way we 65 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: were raised and definitely some initial professional experiences we have. 66 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: I grew up with with a father who was actually older. 67 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: Uh he was you know, he passed away a couple 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: of years ago. He was in his late seventies. Had 69 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: me after he was forty. Uh. He grew up very 70 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: old school, obviously when you're born in the forties. His 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: father fought in World War Two, his brother died in Vietnam. Um, 72 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: he was a farmer. Obviously, love sports, you know where 73 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: I get it, but very old school values. You either 74 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: showed up on time or you didn't. You either got 75 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: good grades or you didn't. It was very black and 76 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: white that there was no middle ground. We didn't really 77 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: do excuses where I came from. And then once I 78 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: got That's how I grew up my entire life. I 79 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: still to this day get paranoid about being late, which 80 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: helped me once I started working in football, because football 81 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: like my environment growing up. Same deal. You either get 82 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: a first down or you don't. You either make the 83 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: tackle or you don't. It's you know, it's it's very 84 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: black and white. There there is there. You either win 85 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: the game or you don't. It's why as I've transitioned 86 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: to the media, it's a little fluffier. You know. Where 87 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: I grew up in an in an old school, private 88 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: sector business home. Then I went to football in college 89 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and there wasn't many hype pathetical middle grounds. 90 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean some came for me. I gave some excuses. 91 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: They just didn't fly that. There was a no victimhood mentality, 92 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: a no bull shit mentality in my home. And then 93 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: when I worked at FRESNL Staton all worked in Philly. 94 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: You you either did what you were told and got 95 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: the job done or you didn't. There was no middle ground. 96 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: Now listen, sometimes if I was not, if I you know, 97 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: something happened, and we all can make excuses for individual circumstances. 98 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: Right relate to something because our car broke down, we 99 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: we got bad grades this quarter in college because our 100 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: girlfriend dumped us. We didn't get the first down because 101 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: the right tackle slipped. Like, there are individual instances in 102 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: life where it's okay to make an excuse where it's 103 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: a believable excuse where where it actually the excuse you're 104 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: making is true. But I do fundamentally believe that if 105 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: you have that mentality in life, you're more likely to succeed. Now, 106 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna be people that have different type personalities, that 107 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: were raised different, that are gonna think different, and we're 108 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: just gonna have to agree to disagree because I know this. 109 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: I plan on raising my unborn children. I'll be a 110 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: little different, but there are gonna be some basic principles 111 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: of life that I gained from someone that was born 112 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 1: in the forties than my child that will be born 113 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: probably in the next decade. You think I'm in my 114 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: mid thirties, Uh, well, we'll also carry with him because 115 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: I I do think there are things that last forever. 116 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: And one thing I saw today Adam Schefter tweeted that 117 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen is on the trade block and oh I 118 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: saw on social media, and I think you hear this 119 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: a lot when anyone talks about Josh Rosen. He got 120 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: the raw end of the deal. He is getting screwed. 121 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: It is not his fault. Seeing this over and over 122 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: and over, you know what I'd go getting drafted by 123 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: Arizona when Vance Joseph was your head coach, when your 124 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 1: offensive line was pitiful, and you got thrown into a game, 125 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: which many people in the NFL think that Sam Bradford 126 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: in that game might have just said I'm over it, 127 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm out. And he got thrown in remember of a 128 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: game late in the fourth quarter. Shitty way to start 129 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: your career, which is the case for a lot of rookies. 130 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: It's not a seamless transition. Now, he went on to 131 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: start thirteen games that rookie year, and it was ugly, 132 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: it was bad, but he got thirteen regular season games. 133 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: Kingsbury comes and I didn't appreciate the way they handled it. 134 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: I thought it was a little bush league at times, 135 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: the way they treated the situation of a guy that, 136 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: from my knowledge, wasn't a bad human being, was a 137 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: good team. It was doing everything humanly possible to attempt 138 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: to be a good football player. But the NFL is 139 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: a business, and they decided to draft Kyler Murray pretty 140 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: clear off or one year, right decision. We all would 141 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: have made it. But unless you're in the Rosen family, 142 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: I don't think you'll meet as human being that didn't 143 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: say that. Ultimately, whether they handled the lead up to it, 144 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: correctly or not, that the Cardinals didn't make the right decision. 145 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Here's where my pity for Josh Rosen ends. And I'm 146 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: someone did love Josh Rosen coming out. I had him 147 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: as my number two quarterback in that class, and I 148 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: was wrong. I had Sam Donald than him. Then you know, 149 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: probably I'd have to go back and look, you know 150 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I didn't like Josh Allen. I didn't like 151 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson clearly, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. Lamar definitely, 152 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: and even Josh run circles around Josh Rosen. He is 153 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: not as good a player as those guys, not even debatable. 154 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: Same with Baker. Mayfield has done way more in the league. Now, 155 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: Baker's gotta put up or shut up this year, But 156 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: that's another story. Once you get traded for a second 157 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: round pick, though, as he did to Miami, who was 158 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: not very good, my pity ends there because they It's 159 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: not like they gave up nothing, so they had nothing 160 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: invested in the guy. They gave a second round pick 161 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: for Josh Rosen, they gave him the opportunity to beat 162 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: out Ryan Fitzpatrick. Did you hear what I just said 163 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. I didn't say Ben Roethlisberger. I didn't say 164 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady hell. I didn't say Dak Prescott or Jimmy Garoppolo. 165 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: I said Ryan fitz Patrick, who, from all accounts, probably 166 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: one of the smartest. I think he has the highest 167 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: Wonderlick scored in the history of the NFL. Smart ivy 168 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: league guy, very likable guy. I'm a Ryan Fitzpatrick fan. 169 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: But Josh Rosen, who was the tenth pick in the draft, 170 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: and when he came out now the league quickly changed. 171 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: He's not very mobile, but old school pocket quarterback, the 172 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: immense armed talent, couldn't beat him out when they had 173 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: just traded a second round pick for They've got Fitzpatrick 174 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: for nothing. He was just your classic rich quarterback. Pay 175 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: him three or four million dollars. They weren't that invested 176 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: into Ryan Fitzpatrick. Josh Rosen was given the opportunity to 177 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: beat him out and could not do it. And then 178 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: when Josh Rosen got his opportunity to play at different 179 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: times for the Miami Dolphins, he threw one touchdown in 180 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: five picks. He's like, well, the Miami Dolphins were terrible. 181 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: No One could throw any touchdowns Ryan Fitzpatrick through and interceptions, 182 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: So he had his opportunity, while it was short lived. 183 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes opportunity you never know when they're gonna come. He 184 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: was drafted ten overall, so he already got made a 185 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: bunch of money. In the Arizona situation out of his 186 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: control turned shitty really quick. Nothing he could do. But 187 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: once he got to Miami, they invested a second round 188 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: pick for him and all he had to beat out 189 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: was Ryan Fitzpatrick. To me, it goes on him. Do 190 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: you know what it turns out? Now? Again, his story 191 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: is not completely written. He's in his early twenties. He 192 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: could still resurrect his career down the line, but as 193 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: of right now, his failure is on him. He had 194 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: the opportunity. He was around Brian Flores, he was around 195 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: that offense, the staff, the teammates every single day to 196 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: make an impression to get his opportunity, and he could 197 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: not do it. Obviously, once they draft to a Tongue Valoa, 198 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: he was done. It was over. But it was over 199 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: way before this draft. He had his chance last season. 200 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: You think if Sam Donald or Josh Allen was let's 201 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: just say one of those two guys had been instead 202 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: of at three the Jets had taken Sam Donald, or 203 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: at seven, uh, the Buffalo Bills had taken Josh Allen. 204 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: It was Josh Rosen went in one of those spots. 205 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: So at ten, the Arizona Cardinals got Sam Donald or 206 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: got Josh Allen. You don't think they beat out Ryan 207 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick because I do. You don't think that maybe they 208 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: change the uh, the direction of the franchise. Maybe, I 209 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: I think there's a decent chance Josh Rosen clearly did not. 210 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: So when you see that Josh Rosen got the short 211 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: end of the stick, I agree in Arizona, listen, we 212 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: we all have bad days, bad moments, a bad year, 213 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 1: things that are out of our control. But eventually, in 214 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: football you can't make excuses. You either got the job 215 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: done or you didn't. And he, you know, it turns 216 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: out he's probably just not very good, and people like 217 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: me that liked him, we're just wrong. He is not 218 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: in the league, has dramatically changed, he can't move with 219 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: his feet, and his career is now circling the drain. 220 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: It really is. I didn't see it coming. I actually, 221 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, applauded when they drafted him ten overall, but 222 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: the overall narrative that this is some royal screw job 223 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: and he was handed pocket twos, and it's just it's 224 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: just not true because the moment he got traded to Miami, 225 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: the previous situation was irrelevant. It was his time to 226 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: shine and he couldn't do it. So when you see 227 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: these people make excuses for him, just know that it's 228 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: on Josh Rosen, nobody else that his career in Miami's 229 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: coming to an ap Okay. Let's dive into patience, because 230 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: I think that is a word that did I know 231 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: that I was not blessed with. And I would say 232 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: the first thirty years of my life, I was as 233 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: impatient of a human being as you could possibly be. 234 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: And I was always and we've talked about this before. 235 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: I think that most great business mentors, if you ask 236 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: people how to make money or what to invest in 237 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: the number one thing I always got growing up, and 238 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: it kind of goes out one year out the other 239 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: until you actually experience. And I went to cal Pauli 240 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: and we had this model called learned by doing kind 241 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: of cheesy, I always thought. And then the older I get, 242 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: I was like, I take a lot of pride and 243 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: learn by doing. I I learned the best, not by reading. 244 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: I learned by getting out there and doing something. I'm 245 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: not a huge theory guy. Now I have a lot 246 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: of theories, and I like talking about theories, but in 247 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: terms of actually putting something the action, I just do it, 248 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: and if I fail at it, I'll fail at it 249 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: and then adjust from there. But anyone successful with any 250 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: amount of money will tell you the best deals they've 251 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: made in real estate, in hiring and purchasing other businesses 252 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: and whatever. Even buying their own home is being patient, 253 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: and it's so much easier said than done. And when I, 254 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: like five or six years ago, the rent, you know, 255 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: halfway through the bull market. So probably like two thousand 256 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: my rent in Emeryville, California, which is on the other 257 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: side of the Bay Bridge, so not in San Francisco. 258 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: It's basically right next to Berkeley. It's between Berkeley and Oakland. 259 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: And I got a deal I wanted to live by myself, 260 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: And maybe it was two thousand thirteen. I originally moved 261 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: in and started like fifteen hundred dollars a month back 262 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen, and by about two thousand fifteen, 263 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: the tech you know, seeing in the Bay Are. It 264 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: was just humming. It was just insane home prices and 265 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: rent prices. I wasn't in an area that was rent controlled. 266 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: My rent was going to like almost for a pretty 267 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: shitty apartment, and I said, this is nuts. I gotta 268 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: buy a place. And I'm not a big city guy 269 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: anyway in the sense of I like going into the city, 270 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: and not necessarily San Francisco anymore. I couldn't pay me 271 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: to go in there right now, but just in general, 272 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: I lived in San Francisco for one year back when 273 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: it was cool, and I it had some good parts 274 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: and there were some a lot of babes, and it's 275 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: fun to party and everything, but I hate not being 276 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: on the park. Like I like my Space. I grew 277 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: up in the suburbs. I like living in the suburbs. 278 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: I like green I like playing golf. I like to 279 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: be able to breed, I like to be able to park. 280 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, I gotta buy a place. And 281 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: I've never bought a place before. And the market was crazy. 282 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: You had to bid, like if the if a selling 283 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: price was like four fifty thousand for a condo, if 284 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: your if your bid wasn't five hundred, They wouldn't even 285 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: call you back. It was crazy. I remember trying to 286 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: explain it to my dad and he was like, this 287 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: is nuts. And I had friends that bought places in 288 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: the city and they were like, you just gotta do this. 289 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: It's hard to wrap your head around. And I finally 290 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: found a cool little condo complex. It's where I actually 291 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: live now, and it was this place on the first floor, 292 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: and there are three levels in where I live, but 293 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: the place on the first floor is actually on the 294 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: where I'm sitting right now. I can see the place, 295 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: and I put an offer and on it and I 296 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: was in like the final couple spots, and I was like, 297 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, I remember looking down at my phone and 298 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: seeing that there wasn't any I didn't have any cell 299 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: phone service. This is great. This is how you know, 300 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: guys millennials think, I'm like, this is not gonna fly. Wait, 301 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: I can't. I mean, I'm not gonna be able to text. 302 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: This is crazy and something was a little off, but 303 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: it was a pretty good deal relative to how crazy 304 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: the real estate market is. For whatever reason, I ended 305 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: up not getting it, and then within and I was 306 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: kind of like I was like, I'm not gonna be 307 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: able to find a place to live. I'm gonna be 308 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: paying like three thousand dollars in rent. This is insane. 309 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: And then a couple of couple of months later, I 310 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: get a place in the same building on the third floor, 311 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: which I've learned there's been some plumbing issues in this place. 312 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't impact me because, as the old saying goes, 313 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 1: ship flows downhill. So we've had some places flood and 314 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: one of the places that flooded in this building was 315 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: the condo that I originally wanted to get and ended 316 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: up not getting, and they've had major problems. I haven't 317 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: had one issue. My place is incredible. You know why 318 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: on the third floor. If you're ever gonna live in 319 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: a complex, or if you're ever gonna buy a place, 320 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: renting is a little different. If you're gonna buy, you 321 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: gotta be on the top floor. If you're gonna buy condos, 322 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: you have to. It saves you so many potential headaches. 323 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: It's a game changer. Now. I was forced into the 324 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: patients there because if they would have said, well, except 325 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: your offer, I would have taken it. But it was 326 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: the best thing that ever happened to me. It really was, 327 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: And now that I play the stock markets, I see 328 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: sometimes like living and dying on a given day, Like 329 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: I'm not Gordon Gekko. Just take a deep breath. The 330 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: next day it'll go down and then you can buy 331 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: it at a cheaper price. It happens all the time. 332 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: So patience, to me, is is something that I as 333 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: I've gotten older and gotten a lot better at it. 334 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: It's something that I cognitively think about a lot, like John, 335 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: take a deep breath, John, You're not. I don't have 336 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: to be in a huge rush. It's really helped me 337 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: just operate in life, let alone in any business dealings 338 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: that I have. But the people that I aspire or 339 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: excuse me admire in the NFL are by far the 340 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: most patient people. And I don't know if there's ever 341 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: been a more patient human being in the history of 342 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: the NFL than Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick, remember when and 343 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: listen I was, I was believing the buzz like I 344 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: think he likes Stidham Man he's all in on Stidham. 345 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: Clearly wasn't because he ended. If he was all in 346 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: on Stidham, he wouldn't have signed Cam Newton no chance, 347 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, Belichick, like Pete 348 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: Carroll's big thing is always compete, And I do think 349 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: he believes that, and I think anyone that will play 350 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: that played for him, especially that original l Ob crew. 351 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: Those practices were crazy. Anyone that followed the USC teams 352 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: in the two thousand's that if you went to a 353 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: USC practice, it was a war zone of all these 354 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: five star guys just fighting over playing time. Remember, for 355 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: it didn't get like in vogue up until this last 356 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: decade for young guys to play like most guys when 357 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: I was growing up, definitely in the nineties and even 358 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: the early two thousands, like you had to be a 359 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: junior senior to play a great team. It was I 360 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: I vividly remember, like in the late nineties, like it 361 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: was a big deal for like a sophomore to be 362 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: starting on a top five team. By the time Pete 363 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: had that thing rolling, you looked at some of peace 364 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: teams he had like freshmen all over the place. Plan 365 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: best guys played always compete. And then urban Meyer and 366 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: think about Nick Saban, how quickly he changed and all 367 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: the best teams started playing young guys. And it's become 368 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: very normal. Look at the Heisman Trophy, all these sophomores, 369 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: juniors and freshman definitely freshman and sophomores can win it now, 370 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: and which is cool, which is how it should be. 371 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: But Belichick got his starting quarterback. He just named him 372 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: on Thursday, Cam Newton, for fifty dollars. I think now 373 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: you could say, well, he just took a flyer on him. Well, 374 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: to me, if he loved Jared Sidham, he wouldn't have 375 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: taken a flyer. He knew Cam Newton was out there 376 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: and he Corona was working to his benefit because no 377 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: one could put Cam Newton through a physical And now 378 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Cam Newton's a starting quarterback. And from everything we've read 379 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: and all these little videos that come out, it sure 380 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: seems like Bill Belichick really likes Kim Newton. And think 381 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: about the way they did business forever and you can 382 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: nit pick him like, oh, they should have done this, 383 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: they should have done that. They went to nine Super 384 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: Bowls in a decade. How many times did we ever go? 385 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: You know what? God, Belichick traded two first round picks 386 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: for Jalen Ramsey that blew up in his face. Never 387 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: did he missed on draft picks everybody does you're oh, 388 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: you're only gonnah of your first round picks, let alone, 389 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: you know, second thirds and fource. But there was a 390 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: consistent reason why that franchise never crumbled. It never fell apart. 391 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: Obviously Tom Brady played a huge role in it, but 392 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: their roster definitely over the last decade, they never were 393 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: that financially in these weird spots. And the one time 394 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: over the last really ten years, he put all his 395 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: chips in the table for a guy that he didn't 396 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: and think about this when he was aggressive in free agency, 397 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: like when he originally got Welker, when he put all 398 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: the chips in the table for Stephon Gilmore, he went 399 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: with guys in his own division that he saw. You know, 400 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: if you play like Gilmore four years for the Bills, 401 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: he played a many times Welker. He's playing him every year, 402 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: twice a year. It's not like a one off game 403 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: and he sees the guy once every However, many years 404 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: he saw that guy a lot, you know, so I 405 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: think it played a big role in his understanding of 406 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: being able to consistently compete because he was patient. Look 407 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: at some of the other moves this summer by patient teams, 408 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: and I see it like I was around Howie Roseman. 409 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: He can be an impatient person. I think he's he's 410 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: changed a lot more when I talked to him now, 411 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: but when I was around him he was really young. 412 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: He was just he's all he still is just uh, 413 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, an intense just go get her. But when 414 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: he does business, he doesn't operate like that. He takes 415 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: his time, He lets it come to him. They didn't 416 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: do Jalen Ramsey for two ones and a two. They 417 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: got Darius Slay for three and five. I think Minnesota 418 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: and Rick Spielman is one of the best gms in 419 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: the league. He got Yannick and dock Way for a 420 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: second round pick. That pick they'll probably be in the 421 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: plast That pick is gonna be in the fifties. He 422 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: got him to take a six million dollar pay cut 423 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: to come to his team. When you get impatient and listen, 424 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: we're all at the end of the day, like a 425 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: GM is just a huge fan that is running a team. Now. 426 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: He has a lot more knowledge, probably about the sport, 427 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: but deep to his core, he's a huge fan. So 428 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: we all want good players, right and we all when 429 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: we get the acts or the ability to get this 430 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: guy or get that guy. It's not easy for them too. 431 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: But there's a reason that the Vikings and Howie they're 432 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: going to the playoffs all the time and their rosters 433 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: are always in position to compete because they're not impatient. 434 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: And Belichick is the bar at that just I think 435 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: the Niners have really changed their franchise with Kyle Shanahan 436 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: on patients last year, they traded back one spot and 437 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 1: still got the guy. They did it even when they 438 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: screwed up the Solomon Thomas pick. They traded back one 439 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: spot with Mr Robiski that they just aren't in a 440 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: huge rush. And and just listen when you are patient, 441 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: even if you make the wrong move. For example, the 442 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: forty Niners when they traded back one spot to get 443 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: Palm and Thomas, they still acquired a third and a 444 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: fourth round pick, and those guys are on the team 445 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: now and they use those assets to get other players. 446 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: But when and I say this all the time about 447 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: the draft, you have to let the draft come to 448 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: you because you have to understand the market. It's no 449 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: different than real estate. You can't be buying an eight 450 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollar home for one point five million dollars, 451 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: but you sure as hell can buy a five hundred 452 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollar home for two thousand dollars. And that's what 453 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: Belichick has made a living off of. Same with Howie 454 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: Roseman for a long period of time, now, same without 455 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: Rick Spielman. And I admire these guys and I'm still 456 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: trying to learn it, and I would imagine anyone. And 457 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: there's a balance, right that. There's you can't just be 458 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: lethargic with everything, but you have to be able to 459 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: take a deep breath and be okay to miss out 460 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: on it, because wohldn't you say the best deals are 461 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: when you're okay to walk away. And just because you 462 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: walk away doesn't mean you don't want that deal or 463 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: don't want that player, but you just know, you know 464 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: that this is this doesn't pencil for me. And when 465 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: you can have that conviction in sports, it's hard because 466 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: you're walking away from a guy like God, our first 467 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: round pick is gonna be pretty good, and then they're 468 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: calling your bluff and you're like, I don't think anyone 469 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: else is offering them a first round pick, but I 470 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: think my offer with the second round pick is the 471 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: best offer. And if you can wait it out long enough, 472 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: Minnesota did got themselves a star pass rusher, Howry Roseman 473 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: did got himself a star corner. Belichick did got himself 474 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: a former m v P starting quarterback for five thousand dollars. 475 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's incredible value. That if Cam Newton 476 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: is good for Bill Belichick, you could you could argue 477 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: that's one of his greatest personnel moves when you factor 478 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: in how much he's paying him, the return on investment 479 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: if they win eight or nine games and compete to 480 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: make a wild card five thousand dollars. Yeah, I'll be 481 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean hard pressed in just a one year situation 482 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: to find a better example of Bill Belichick and value 483 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: and just knowing the market and understanding, uh what other 484 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: people don't. And so I I commend all these guys. 485 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: And there's a reason teams win and other teams consistently lose. Okay, 486 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: let's dive into Steve Nash, who just became the head 487 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: coach of the Nets. And the first thing I did 488 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: this morning after my I mean my jock con hit 489 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: the floor and like Steve Nash is going to become 490 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: the head coach at Google, how much he made in 491 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: his career million dollars, and that's just on the court. 492 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: He's a pretty marketable athlete there for a while, I 493 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: would imagine made a couple hundred million dollars. I think 494 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: he got a bad divorce, but still I don't think 495 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: money is the issue. He had been with the Warriors 496 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. He's close with Steve Kerr. 497 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: And I'm always fascinated by people like I don't have 498 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: enough money where I could just not do anything the 499 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: rest of my life, Like I have to keep working 500 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: right now. Granted I don't even view what I do 501 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: was were king. I never really have. I've always really 502 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. Now. Back when I worked in football, 503 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: I pulled long hours, even to this day. I mean 504 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm recorded and I'm still going. It's you know, not 505 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: even it's almost eight o'clock. It's like I don't the time, 506 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: you know. I know, people and listen, I can't relate 507 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: that eight o'clock and you can't wait to get out 508 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: of the door at five o'clock. I knew I couldn't 509 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: do that. I knew I I could not function that way, 510 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: and so I've had to pay my own path right, 511 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: But I still the the actual money. Like, if I 512 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: ever get to the point where I look in a 513 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: bank and there's just enough money where I don't have 514 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: to do ship, will I still be driven? New We'll 515 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: have to cross that bridge when I come to it. 516 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: But I've been around a lot of people that make 517 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: a lot of money and aren't driven by money at all. 518 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: Because Andy Reid could have retired a long time ago, 519 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: still cranking, just got a contract extension. I'll promise you this, 520 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: Andy Reid ain't doing it for the money. I I 521 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: think you see it a lot with coaches Belichick the 522 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: money and Nick Saban the money and coaching is so 523 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: insane right now. If they didn't like football, they were 524 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: basketball or whatever, they would not keep coaching. Like John 525 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: Calipari is not doing this for the money. Ego is 526 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: the thing. I It's for the love of the sport 527 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: first and foremost, or you could not keep doing it, Jeff, 528 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: Like why is Jeff Bezo still working at Amazon? What 529 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: else does he have to prove? Just some people are 530 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: just driven. Now, I've met some people that are driven 531 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: by money. I actually haven't met that many people that 532 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: are driven strictly by money. I don't know that many 533 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: people like in the financial world. Maybe there's more that 534 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: way because that that to me and I listen, I 535 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: like stocks. I actually like them more by the day 536 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: as I gained more money, but I would get a 537 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: little boring to me and be a little hollow. And 538 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: I when Steve Nash and I know Jason Kidd, like 539 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: seven eight years ago, when he first became a head coach, 540 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: I go My first thought was like, wow, for this 541 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: guy to do this now, both of them. If you remember, 542 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: Jason Kidd got the next job. They had just traded 543 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: for Kevin Durant, Garnett, they had Darren Williams. I think 544 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: they Paul Pierce in that trade to like they were 545 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be really good. Obviously they have Kevin Durant 546 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: with the nets right now, who, in my opinion, when 547 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: he's healthy, probably the best player in the world. So 548 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: if you have Kevin Durant, like, it's a good job. 549 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: Now Kyrie a little bit of a wild card. But 550 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: I understand Steve Nash, Jason Kidd. It ain't about the 551 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: money because they had an unlimited amount. They do not 552 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: need to do this, So I fully respect that mindset 553 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: of They just want to do it. Then I started 554 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: thinking today, like it happens, and it's happened a lot 555 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: in basketball over the years, famous, especially the last you 556 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: know twenty, with these famous guys becoming head coaches. And 557 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm not just saying fame, I'm talking rich because that's 558 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: the game changer, right, they don't have to keep working. 559 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: And could it ever happened in football? Because if I 560 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: was an NFL owner and Peyton Manning and I needed 561 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: a coach, Like if I was John Morrow this summer 562 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning's like I'm in, I'd hire him on 563 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: the spot. How much five years, ten million, year, fifty million, 564 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: you're my head coach? It would one I believe that 565 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: he could get it done. Two I would just it 566 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: would be worth it for the buzz and the my 567 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: fan base would be awesome. Like in football, coaches matter 568 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: a lot, probably more way more in basketball obviously on 569 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: the court, but all off the court, Like they're really famous. 570 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: All of our coaches in in the NFL and even 571 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: the top ones in college are really really famous and 572 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: obviously make a lot of money. But I started writing 573 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: down some things, I'm like, I don't know even if 574 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: that guy was semi interested, and we've seen like remember 575 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: Marshall Falk, Dion Sanders. They're like, I want to be 576 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: a head coach, Like what would you start being a 577 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: position coach? And they say, no, too rich, too famous, 578 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: which I what's fine, but I don't think you'll ever 579 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: see a quarterback make that transition. And the number one 580 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: thing I wrote down and the reason why is in basketball, 581 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: when Steve Nash takes this job, if Kevin Durant is healthy, 582 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: and I've seen some internet videos, he sure looked pretty 583 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: healthy a couple of months ago. Uh, You're you're a 584 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: lock to make the playoffs, a one hundred percent lock 585 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. And if Kyrie can just function, 586 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna be really good. Like you are going to 587 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: borderline compete to win it, to win the East right away, 588 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: you're a lock to win forty five games. We're in 589 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: the NFL. Even if your team is really good talented 590 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: on paper, you're not a lock to do ship. The 591 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys on paper are fantastic last year when ain't Nate, 592 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: It's hard to win in the NFL, even when you 593 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: have really good players. Injuries happen at a much higher 594 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: rate than in basketball. You like, you can't just show 595 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: up obviously if you're a terrible coach, and even if 596 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: you try, it might not be good enough. But even 597 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: if you were Peyton Manning and you tried hard for 598 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: whatever reason, it might not mesh. It might not work. 599 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: The other thing is in the NFL. These star players 600 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: in in basketball force coaches out like they just did 601 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: with the nets, and it happens a lot. Right There 602 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: aren't usually like oh Russell Wilson or Patrick Mahomes, the 603 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: job with them at quarterback open. You know, the job 604 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: that's usually opened, like the New York Giants, the Carolina Panthers, 605 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: terrible jobs, jobs that no one really wants. Uh. You 606 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: know the Browns. You could argue was a little unique, 607 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: but you looked at it, you went, well, I don't 608 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: even know if Baker is any good, right, So I 609 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: would say, first and foremost, it is way more difficult. 610 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: If you give me Kevin Durant, I'm a minimum blocked 611 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: if he's healthy forty five games. In football, I'm not 612 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: guaranteed to win like six, even if my team's good. 613 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: It's just so hard weekend week out. The parody in 614 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: the league is so different. Also in basketball, and this 615 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: is a big reason like the sport I think has 616 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: fallen off these last three or four years, the effort 617 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: in the regular And I saw it firsthand with the Warriors. 618 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: When the Warriors tried the year before Kevin Durant came, 619 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: they won seventy three games. Now they were really skilled 620 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: and everything, but they I mean I watched all eighty 621 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: two games that season. I swore to God, they gave 622 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: max effort in eighty Like I'm talking max start to 623 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: finish effort. I was going to a lot of those games. 624 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: I was leaving when the fourth quarter started. They were 625 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: destroying people because they approached every game like a football game. 626 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: I watched them since once Kevin Durant came. They barely 627 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: tried in the regular season. The regular season, I mean 628 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: it's hit or miss on on effort. In football, every 629 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: single game you're getting a team's best shot. Now I 630 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: don't they may not be good or not, but that 631 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: team is gonna try. So it is. Every game is stressful. 632 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: The second thing the hours in football relative to basketball. 633 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: You think Steve Kerrs working long hours? Seriously, I mean, 634 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: I promise you he's not. Now that doesn't mean like 635 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: I think Erik Spoelstra, Brad Stevens, Nick Nurse. Some of 636 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: these coaches are kind of wired like football guys. Mike 637 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: malone of the Denver Nuggets coach, uh Dr Rivers, plays 638 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: a lot of golf. You know who doesn't ever play 639 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: golf during the regular season Once football starts. Football coaches 640 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 1: they don't touch their golf clubs. They grind. Pat Hill, 641 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: who I used to work for at Fresno State. He uh, 642 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: long story short, This super rich guy in the valley, 643 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: kind of the Fresno area most successful almond farmer around, 644 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: has this podcast. He built a podcast studio at his 645 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: basically like his warehouse. He just wanted to start a 646 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: podcast for farmers. He had Pat Hill on the podcast 647 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: and he asked Pat what was it like to work 648 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: for Bill Belichick. He said, what about the hours? And 649 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: Pat kind of laughed and then he got serious. So 650 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: it was the craziest thing I've ever experienced. And this 651 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: was in the nineties in Cleveland. He said, the hours 652 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: went like this. Now this is Belichick, but I work 653 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: Frandy Reid. He I don't think the hours with that 654 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: much different. Sleeps in the office grinder six am to 655 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: two am, Monday through Thursday. Obviously you're traveling on the 656 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: weekends eight eight out of the sixteen weeks. Even the 657 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: weeks you're there, you're still practicing on Friday, then walk 658 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: throughs on Saturday. So it's not like you get Friday 659 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: or Saturday off, but Monday through Thursday. So Monday night, 660 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night six am until two am. 661 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: Say that out loud. I I just I couldn't pull 662 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: that off now with in Philly as the personnel staff, 663 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: I didn't. The coaches were there, like give or take 664 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: given those hours. Maybe not two am, but probably like 665 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: six to ten or eleven. I was like six to 666 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: eight and then I sometimes I used to when I 667 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: was working for the Eagles, I'd get a workout of 668 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: like eight. But the hours were nuts, I mean crazy, 669 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: And it's just you're watching Phil all day. It's hard. 670 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean it's not. Basketball is not like that. Basketball 671 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: is not a grind like that at all. So there 672 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: is a grinding element that Peyton Manning or Drew Brees 673 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: for example, did they know as a player, because they 674 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: approached it like a coach. You see some of these 675 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: stories that have come out of Peyton Manning and Tom 676 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: Brady over the years. How do they communicate with Why 677 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: Why did Peyton Manning like Adam Gaze because he could 678 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: text him at midnight and he'd get an immediate answer. 679 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: That's why Peyton Manning loved Adam Gaze because he was 680 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: crazy like him. They would be talking plays at like 681 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: five am to midnight. It never ended. Basketball is not 682 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: like that, because I know it. You know I need 683 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: a big bucket. I'm going to Kevin Durant. What are 684 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: we gonna run? Give it to Kevin Durant, Get the 685 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: hell out of the way. What did Doug Collins say 686 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: on the famous Michael Jordan's shot? Would you run? Doug? 687 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: I told him in the huddle, get the ball to 688 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: Michael and get the funk out of the way. That's 689 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: what he said to the press when they beat clear 690 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 1: Land the craigy Yelo shot. That was the play. Get 691 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: the ball to Michael and get the f out of 692 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: the way. I don't know why I didn't swear. I could. 693 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: I just try to keep it. Don't try to swear 694 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: too much on this podcast or overkill. But and the 695 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: last thing, basketball really a five or six month or 696 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: year job, right whenever the season starts till the finals. 697 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: You don't have to do anything with the draft. You 698 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: don't have to work the combine. Guy goes on like 699 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: during the season. It it's not that difficult for a coach. 700 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: Your GM actually does a lot. Steve Nash Sean Marks 701 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: is the guy gonna do it all the personnel. Now, 702 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not gonna have an input or 703 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: thoughts in it. But as a coach, even if you 704 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: aren't the one drafting the players, you are still playing 705 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: a major role. You're going to the combine you are 706 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: at if you're not going to protas, you're having all 707 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: these players come to you. You obviously play a huge role. 708 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: In free agency. You're watching a ton of tape on 709 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: guys around the league that you can sign. There's just 710 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: way more play hours. There's just way more work to do. 711 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: And listen, I think it would be incredible if Peyton 712 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: Manning Drew Brees a FARV and a far of wind. 713 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: But you get my dress. I'm just talking an all 714 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: time famous name became a coach because we've seen it 715 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: with some gms now right Elway, Ozzie Knewsome Forever, John 716 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: Lynch here and it's it's cool. And I've talked to 717 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: people with the Niners. They're like, I'm blown away by 718 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: how hard John Lynch works and like he ain't showing 719 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: up to the opposite eight thirty and going home at six, 720 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: Like he's there bright and early and there well after 721 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: the sun goes down. Maybe he was just made for 722 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: it and the media wasn't that natural to him. It's 723 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: why I think Peyton Manning has kind of turned down 724 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: a lot of media stuff to be the Monday night 725 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: color guy. Like he's not in all the fluff. He's 726 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: actually more of a foxhole guy. But you know, just 727 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: the hours, like it's it's a little easier, Like even 728 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: as a GM you were crazy hours. It's not quite 729 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: as many as the coaches. And I would love for 730 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: it to happen, but it's sad to say it's probably 731 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: not gonna happen basketball where the star players end up 732 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,479 Speaker 1: being a coach. Okay, let's dive into the middle Cough 733 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram handle and 734 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: you had a question fire up in there. Um, I'm 735 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 1: gladly respond or answer your question here. Just thinking about 736 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: the breaking news today is the Mexican pizza, which depending 737 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: on where you live, you know, tacle Bells a staple 738 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: out in the state of California, and the Mexican pizza was, 739 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, a top two or three item that they 740 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: had that they are they're retiring the Mexican pizza November five, 741 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: and I'd be lying two things. One devastated, not that 742 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: I even eat that many of that often anymore, but 743 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: it's my favorite item. And second, I'm actually I've already 744 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: eaten dinner. I eat like five trying to be healthy 745 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: this week after Vegas, but I'm thinking about just hopping 746 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: in the car and going to fire to give me 747 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: a Mexican pizza for for old times sake. Big fan 748 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: of the pod, die hard Bengals fan here. Question about stocks. 749 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: I hear you talk about your shares often and you 750 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: mentioned how you sold bought during Corona. How do you 751 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: manage your stocks? Are you using apps like Robin Hood, Stockmaster, etc. 752 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,479 Speaker 1: Thanks for your continued great content and go Bengals. Joe 753 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: Burrow Baby, I use I'm a Welsh Fargo banker. They 754 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: have a brokerage that just links right to my right 755 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: to my checking and savings account and I just sell 756 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: through them, and I don't get I get no fees. 757 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: I can do whatever I want, So I don't use 758 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: like a separate app. I just use my own banking, 759 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 1: which is Wells Fargo Brokerage. Now, I mean I've I've 760 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 1: used e Trade before when I was a lot younger, 761 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: but in the last decade plus, I've just used the 762 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: brokerage through Wells Fargo. It's really easy for me. So 763 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh, I guess it depends who you're banking. 764 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: Is Robin Hood people have had success there. I think 765 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: they used to be a sponsor on the podcast. Uh yeah, 766 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean I don't think it matters. I think it's 767 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: pretty safe now if it's a legitimate company. Fantasy question 768 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: for the pod bro, would you have Odell or Chris 769 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: Chris Godwin for this year? That's a good question. I 770 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: would say. I love Chris Godwin. God I didn't know 771 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: that much about him till last year and I played 772 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: a lot of daily Fantasy. Um, he's he's a baller. 773 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: I would say this though. You know when you think 774 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: that the Bucks Mike Evans is a beast, Gronk is there. 775 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: Now we know Brady likes the other tight ends and 776 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: they still got O. J. Howard and Cameron Brad Scotty Miller. This, 777 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, typical Belichick White receiver Bowling Green is actually 778 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: on Tampa two and he's been like blowing up. So 779 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: has he become the Welker Edelman? You have to think 780 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: Godwin might come back to earth little bit. I hope 781 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I would go old Odell. I think that 782 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: they are going to try I mean under Stefanski, I 783 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: mean digs. The last couple of years for the Vikings 784 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: had like fifteen touchdowns, So I don't see why if 785 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: you can run the ball, play action with O'Dell firing 786 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: down the sideline, I think they're gonna take a bunch 787 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: of deep shots to Odell Beckham. That would be my 788 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: gut reaction. Tough call, though, men's stuff call. I'll be honest. 789 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: I never played fantasy my whole life. Part of it 790 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: was I worked in the league, and I had people 791 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: that worked in the league, scouts and stuff that played 792 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: big fantasy games. So it's not like fantasy was laughed about. 793 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: It was a joking, you know, stock. I just never 794 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: did it. And then I've got my other podcast. We 795 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: got a daily Fantasy sponsor, and I don't know how 796 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: you guys play yearlong fantasy like I One of the 797 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: reasons I always aspired to go to the NFL and 798 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: away from college, I hated being tied to players. Now 799 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 1: I wanted good players, but I always like the ability 800 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: to cut players, and in college you never could. In 801 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: the pros, it's like a guy sucks, you get rid 802 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: of them. In fantasy, once you draft a guy, especially 803 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: if you use a high pick on him, you kind 804 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: of have to ride it out and you can have 805 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: a crappy season. That's why I love about daily fantasy. 806 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: You never get tied to a player. And we're gonna 807 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: have a daily fantasy league based on my other podcast. 808 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: Haybraham Middlecoff get it because I'm a huge daily fantasy guy. 809 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: Yearlong fantasy to me, I don't know the patience. I 810 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: just I don't know. Clearly, it's been good for the 811 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: NFL's business and a lot of you guys like it, 812 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: but I don't know how you guys did it. I 813 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: love the pod. First question, do you think that the 814 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: that Jamal Adams and the Seahawks defense will have a 815 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: good year and do you think the Seahawks will have 816 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: a good year in general. Yeah, I think Sea actually 817 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: gonna be good. I mean I I think there's a 818 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: chance that we get three teams out of the NFC West, 819 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: the Niners, Seattle fighting for the division. Uh. And I 820 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: think between the Rams and the Cardinals, I don't like 821 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals as much. I don't believe in the head coach. 822 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: You never won MORENS seven games in college. I don't 823 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: like their defensive coordinator, Vance Joseph. Now. I do like 824 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback, but when you factor in the division, I'm 825 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 1: gonna throw on hard knocks a little later. I haven't 826 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: watched it yet, but one thing you see with the 827 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: Rams is if they can protect off big, if they 828 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,959 Speaker 1: have a ton of skill guys, right, Robert Woods, Cooper Cup, 829 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: both those guys guys caught over ninety balls. They love 830 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: the Van Jefferson guy. They're gonna be able to run 831 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 1: the ball with Sean McVeigh in the scheme, Aaron Donald 832 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: is probably the best player in the league. You gotta 833 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: shut down corner if you know five or six of 834 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: the other guys can just be functional. I think there's 835 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: a decent chance that that that the Rams. I mean, 836 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: last year they would have won nine games, So I 837 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: think Seattle and the forty nine is competing for the 838 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: division championship. I think Jamal Adams could just be like 839 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: defensive player of the year. Perfect fit, perfect scheme, motivated crazy. 840 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: You know SLB right made for Pete Carroll. Do you 841 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: want Pete Carroll likes. He likes his guys to be 842 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: a little crazy. Think of when they really took off 843 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 1: right earl surem beast mode like dude with some edge 844 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 1: to them and talent, and they were kicking the ship 845 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: out of everybody. I mean they were beating people. I 846 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 1: mean they were destroying people on defense. Pete likes this stuff. 847 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 1: All those years at ed SC mal Luga remember Malluga 848 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: Cushing and uh Maluga Cushing and Clay and it was like, 849 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: oh my, is this the best college linebacking crew ever. 850 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: Pete likes his guys on tilt. You know, Pete ain't 851 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: looking for you know, for every Russell Wilson. He ain't 852 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: doing a bunch of choir boys. He likes a little 853 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,760 Speaker 1: edgy now, he likes smart edgy like I mean Cam 854 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: and Richard. I mean these guys were high level guys. 855 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner. But when when the whistle blows between the 856 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: white lines. He also dudes to knock you out. Do 857 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: you think the Saints have what it takes to the 858 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year? Why or why not? Honestly, I 859 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: thought they did last year. I remember thinking they were 860 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: the best team in the league. Then they played the 861 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: Niners in that crazy game, and like, these are the 862 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: two best teams in the league. They're gonna play in 863 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 1: the championship game. And remember the Niners in Seattle, like 864 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: it came down to the last game. It's weird. The 865 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: Niners were better than Seattle, but Seattle just matches up. 866 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: Their games are just classic. I'm like, you know what, 867 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: the Niners gotta buy The Saints are gonna win two 868 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: games and they're gonna play in the NFC Championship with 869 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: LEVI something. I'm gonna go to that game. And then 870 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: they lost the Minnesota Vikings. They lost to Kirk Cousins 871 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: at home and Breeze was bad. How did that happen? 872 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: I think they had it all. They had a dominant 873 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: wide receiver, they had Kamara and Taysom Hill, that their 874 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: defense was really good. For them to lose that game 875 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: was just was a joke. Now there are some rumors 876 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: as I'm recording this, that they might get Clowney. If 877 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: they got Clowney to go with you know, Cam Jordan 878 00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: Davenport Lattimore, their defense be pretty solid then obviously offensively 879 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: if they figure out this Alvin Kamar contract situation to 880 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: go with Michael Thomas, they signed Emmanuel Sanders. Yeah, I mean, 881 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: I I think they're clearly on paper, one of the 882 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: best teams in the NFC, but it's hard for me 883 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: to get over that that loss. I mean, that's that 884 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: was a terrible loss. Hashtag middlecoff mail back. I believe 885 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: the Bucks are making the playoffs as a wild card, 886 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 1: but I'm not sold on them going to the Super 887 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: Bowl or even the NFC Championship game. Do you think 888 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 1: this will be the Eagles dream team two point oh? 889 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 1: In terms of not living up to the hype, well, 890 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 1: having lived through the Eagles dream team, I'd say our 891 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: biggest problem was Michael Vick. Not that Michael Vick wasn't 892 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: good enough. He couldn't stay on the field. He got 893 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: hurt and he kept getting banged up. And also he 894 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: that second year in two thousand eleven coming off two 895 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: thousand and ten teams adjusted to him, teams made a 896 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: lot of just they started. I remember we used to 897 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: get all these nick called blitzes, and it used to 898 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: throw Mike off, and you can't do that to Tom. 899 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 1: Tom knows everything. Like part of the dream team is 900 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: Michael Vick was not an m v P anymore, and 901 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: we had other personnel issues. But if you've got Tom Brady, 902 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: who's a star in the NFL, if you have a 903 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: good team and your quarterback is a star or just 904 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: a top ten guy, you're gonna be good. So to me, 905 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: they're actually gonna be much better in theory come December 906 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: and playoff time than they are early in the season. 907 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,720 Speaker 1: Early in the season, to me, this first month gonna 908 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: be a lot of growing pains. Is he on the 909 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: same page as God? Was he on the same page 910 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 1: as Mike Evans? How does Gronk? Look what Leonard four nettell? 911 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: How's the offense working? I forgot about Leonard Fournett of 912 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: the Bucks? Quick take on Leonard four Nett to the Bucks. 913 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: You know I I I think that's a little hubris 914 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: ego by the Buccaneers, Like he had his rep came 915 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: out pretty clear. No one on the team liked them 916 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 1: I've heard this from multiple people, players and coaches. People 917 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: are out on the guy, like it's a running back. 918 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: You guys can find running backs, why do you need 919 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: Leonard four Nette? Like you got a pretty good thing going, 920 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: you got you signed Tom Brady and Gronk, like, really 921 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: high character guys who are Hall of Famers. Why do 922 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: you want to bring Leonard for Nette? It would be 923 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: one thing if like Christian McCaffrey was out there and 924 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 1: he was a bad guy, right or Alvin Kamara like, Okay, 925 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: those guys are like what this guy? What are we 926 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,280 Speaker 1: doing here? You need Leonard Fournette. I didn't love that signing. 927 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 1: It's just I thought it was a little arrogant. Now, 928 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: I think Bruce arians would say, like, I'm used to 929 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: troubled guys. I have no problem with them. But I 930 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: was like, I'm cool with it at certain positions, but 931 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,760 Speaker 1: at running back, Like there there are too many normal 932 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: human running backs in the league that could easily function. 933 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: You guys can't find like an ausome Neckler type. It's 934 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: not that difficult. But yeah, I think the Bucks will 935 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: be uh Buck Saints first game of the year. It's 936 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: pretty sweet game. Can't wait appreciate everyone listening. Again, go 937 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 1: to three and our podcast iTunes. Subscribe to that Bad 938 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: Boy and I'll talk to eyone to see