Speaker 1: There is no vaccine. Japha. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour
Speaker 1: on this of January. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logman, We've
Speaker 1: got a busy program ahead. Reported coaching hires, those reports continue.
Speaker 1: Will talk about some of those names that have been
Speaker 1: thrown around the Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback frenzy. Yes, a lot
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks will be in the hopper this offseason. We
Speaker 1: know what we talked about one in the college ranks
Speaker 1: that with that number one pick would could be coming here.
Speaker 1: But a lot of names in free agency or trades
Speaker 1: will go through all of those. Ashland Sullivan joins us
Speaker 1: at floor thirty. She'll recap the week that was in Mobile,
Speaker 1: Alabama at the Senior Bowl for one. We'll get her
Speaker 1: take on what some of the folks around in the
Speaker 1: league are saying about the hiring of Urban Meyer and
Speaker 1: the Jaguars organization. And we'll go around the National Football
Speaker 1: League as well. J P. Shadrick with Jeff Logoman. Little
Speaker 1: a little bit better now, Good to see it, Logs
Speaker 1: and my head, my head is really shiny. Now that's right.
Speaker 1: What's up man? How we doing? Good to be back? Yeah,
Speaker 1: miss last week you have a good week. It was good,
Speaker 1: got away for a week, got to see the family
Speaker 1: for Christmas? Did did? Did your belly up? To the
Speaker 1: to the to the to the recliner and your little
Speaker 1: what do you call them things? The TV tray for
Speaker 1: the for the championship games on Sunday? Oh yes, well
Speaker 1: I was back in town for that. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: if you got the lazy boy, the recliner, and the
Speaker 1: TV and then the TV tray perfect you to move
Speaker 1: and snacks city, that was about as good of a
Speaker 1: of a Sunday of football maybe that there has ever
Speaker 1: been that you could argue the last two weeks, the
Speaker 1: championship week and then the divisional round are two of
Speaker 1: the best weeks ever because I mean here, here, we
Speaker 1: had a year in which COVID interrupted everything. And would
Speaker 1: you have known it? I mean, by looking at the
Speaker 1: quality of the play of what we saw over the
Speaker 1: last two weekends, you would not have known that anything
Speaker 1: interrupted this season or had a hiccup in it or whatsoever.
Speaker 1: And what might have been the most impressive thing of
Speaker 1: all was the play the quarterbacks over this past weekend.
Speaker 1: I mean, if those games didn't tell you right then
Speaker 1: and there that you need to have a quarterback to compete,
Speaker 1: then you're living in a cave. I mean, if if
Speaker 1: you're if you're one of these uh NFL general managers
Speaker 1: or executives and and you're sitting there going you know what,
Speaker 1: we're We're we're good, We're okay with quarterback. We're are fine.
Speaker 1: We just need to give him. We need to give
Speaker 1: him more weapons, we need to give him a better
Speaker 1: running back, we need to build a better cast around him.
Speaker 1: If you start talking about how you've got to get
Speaker 1: better around him, that means that you're not good enough
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. I mean, if you've got Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: you can say that, sure, but man, when you when
Speaker 1: you got Blake Bortles, you don't say that or we
Speaker 1: heard that around here. He's better when he has all
Speaker 1: the weapons and run game and guys to throw two
Speaker 1: around him. And it just didn't work out. Credit to
Speaker 1: to the quarterbacks. I mean, Aaron Rodgers had an m
Speaker 1: v P year. He was absolutely dynamite to watch. It
Speaker 1: was embarrassing that they didn't give him the ball at
Speaker 1: the end of the ball game. When you when you
Speaker 1: have fourth, fourth down and you have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: score and to convert to you don't kick a field goal.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you don't do that. And remember who's on
Speaker 1: the other side as well. Over there, you know he
Speaker 1: knows how to cloe. Was that a football game? But
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was great. Tom Brady was fantastic at for
Speaker 1: the most part. Then he had some interceptions that were terrible.
Speaker 1: But Josh Allen I thought was really good. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: is just he's just he is dynamite. He's so much
Speaker 1: fun to watch. It's almost as if he has this
Speaker 1: dial and his dial has different levels of play good enough, urgency,
Speaker 1: need it, you know, he just turns it to wherever
Speaker 1: it has to be and then he makes the play
Speaker 1: however he has to make the play whenever he has
Speaker 1: to make the play to win. And he's and he's
Speaker 1: so fun to watch in Kent's city. Is just so
Speaker 1: dynamic and so fast. I just think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: tough to stop them. But if there was a guy
Speaker 1: that could do that, it's Tom that's right. You can
Speaker 1: remember Mahomes did that last week basically with a bad wheel,
Speaker 1: not not a hundred percent wheel. He was better than
Speaker 1: a week before, right, and you know he was in
Speaker 1: the protocol. Yeah, but I think he got choked out.
Speaker 1: I mean that was I think that was a little
Speaker 1: bit that made a little bit too much about that.
Speaker 1: That was. I mean even though that he was in
Speaker 1: the protocol, I mean the protocol. Sometimes you're in it
Speaker 1: just because out of pure caution. But when you watched
Speaker 1: what happened the week before, most people would say, especially
Speaker 1: people that watch UFC and and miss Mixed Martial Arts,
Speaker 1: would say that he got choked out because that's kind
Speaker 1: of what it looked like. And uh, but he was beauty, marvelous,
Speaker 1: and his foot clearly was better. And he's just the
Speaker 1: display of leadership that he shows. And you know, the
Speaker 1: way that his body language is in the huddle, his
Speaker 1: body language on the sideline, the way that his wide
Speaker 1: receiver had the muff on the punt, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they get the ball back on offense
Speaker 1: and he goes right to him, and uh, and then
Speaker 1: goes to him, like first of all, the play call
Speaker 1: goes to him, and then Patrick goes to him. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't get any better than that. So there's always
Speaker 1: talk about the quarterbacks that we're in the final four,
Speaker 1: Brady Rogers, Alan and Mahomes. Coming up a little later
Speaker 1: on the show, we'll discuss the quarterback off season ahead.
Speaker 1: There could be two thirds of the league that have
Speaker 1: new starting quarterbacks next year. We'll break all that down,
Speaker 1: including a couple in this division. Well at three in
Speaker 1: this division left new starting quarterbacks next year. Let's discuss though,
Speaker 1: the latest with the Jacksonville Jaguars, Trent and Bulky was
Speaker 1: actually stays on as the general manager. They take the
Speaker 1: interim tag off. That was late last week, and we
Speaker 1: heard from Balky in that press conference last week. Let's
Speaker 1: hear from him again here. What did he learn from
Speaker 1: the last time out as GM. I think you learn,
Speaker 1: you learn everywhere, at every stop. I think you learn
Speaker 1: from the mistakes you make. Probably you learn more from
Speaker 1: the mistakes you've made over your career then you do
Speaker 1: the positive things. But I've learned a lot. I've learned
Speaker 1: a lot about handling, dealing and working with coaches, a
Speaker 1: lot about dealing and working with players, a lot about
Speaker 1: the team building and what it takes uh in in
Speaker 1: spending the last a lot of time with coach Meyer
Speaker 1: in the past couple of weeks, have learned a tremendous
Speaker 1: amount I think I think life's a journey. I think
Speaker 1: learning is a journey. And I think every day you
Speaker 1: wake up, if you're not waking up with the mentality
Speaker 1: that you're gonna learn something, you're missing something. So I'm
Speaker 1: just looking forward to where we're currently at and where
Speaker 1: where I know we can go. Trent Balky was responsible
Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl run for the forty nine is
Speaker 1: not the most recent one, but the one prior to that,
Speaker 1: and so they had that nice run there with Hardball
Speaker 1: as the head coach. That changed and then there were
Speaker 1: some issues at the end, the head coaching issues in
Speaker 1: San Francisco, a few different guys there, and then Balky
Speaker 1: was gone, But there was success there for him. Now
Speaker 1: Here in Jacksonville, he's been here for a year. You
Speaker 1: got here last January as the player personnel director. So
Speaker 1: he knows the roster. That's one thing of what's here
Speaker 1: right now and how this roster came to be. He
Speaker 1: has a history in the National Football League. He knows
Speaker 1: the rules of engagement in terms of transactions and how
Speaker 1: to get guys here and the rules the day to
Speaker 1: day roster management. I think was his key for to
Speaker 1: help Urban Meyer through this thing and there you go.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a big reason why he's
Speaker 1: he's he's in the building. He knows this team, and
Speaker 1: he knows the league, and I think those are all
Speaker 1: good things for Trent Balky. I don't think it was
Speaker 1: happenstance that he ended up here. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that ownership because Sean Khan said that he was involved
Speaker 1: more starting last year, which we didn't know until he
Speaker 1: revealed that recently, and that leads me to believe that
Speaker 1: he also had some men put into the hiring of
Speaker 1: Trent Balky at the beginning of makes sense. I mean,
Speaker 1: because if he's more involved and he's got final, say,
Speaker 1: one roster, why wouldn't he be more involved than trying
Speaker 1: to find somebody that he feels very strongly about and
Speaker 1: has done a good job. So I think that's good.
Speaker 1: And I think that's also good from the standpoint of
Speaker 1: Trent Balky brought in a gentleman that he's worked with
Speaker 1: very closely recently and I'm trying to remember the name
Speaker 1: of his name. Uh, it was a guy that he
Speaker 1: worked very closely with with the San Francisco forty niners,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of his right hand man. And
Speaker 1: he's been brought in with Trent Balky. And first of all,
Speaker 1: when when you were the general manager, you have to
Speaker 1: have eyes and people and voices that you can trust
Speaker 1: on the personnel side. And so by bringing in somebody
Speaker 1: that he trust, I think is is advantageous for him.
Speaker 1: It also is advantageous to have urban Meyer, have somebody
Speaker 1: that has experienced like Ja like you said, has has
Speaker 1: done the drill before, has the familiarity with the rules.
Speaker 1: But most importantly with him being hired going back, I
Speaker 1: think it was in the January. I don't think favor.
Speaker 1: I think it was Janis January last year. From January
Speaker 1: until the interim tag was removed, he had a great
Speaker 1: opportunity and a great opportunity to evaluate this roster number one,
Speaker 1: to see this roster up close. And that's all fine
Speaker 1: and Danny, but also you typically don't change the scouting
Speaker 1: department prior to the draft. When somebody is hired as
Speaker 1: a generalmanager. Okay, but what you have to do because
Speaker 1: you're gonna be working with some of some of you
Speaker 1: might can right now, you know, because you don't like
Speaker 1: them and you think they're terrible and you think they
Speaker 1: don't do a good job and they might be lazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that there is anybody like that,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying there could be. But for the most part,
Speaker 1: you're working with the people that are here. So if
Speaker 1: you're working with the people that are here, who can
Speaker 1: you trust and who do you believe? And I think
Speaker 1: for for the last year, you get to hear what
Speaker 1: some of these scouts are telling the rest of you.
Speaker 1: And so now you get to hear their voice here,
Speaker 1: their opinions, and then you get to find out is
Speaker 1: that factual or is that a bunch of bs? Does
Speaker 1: this guy do his homework? Is this a guy that
Speaker 1: I can trust his opinion on on players with? Because
Speaker 1: trusting the staff that you currently have in finding voices
Speaker 1: that you can trust with the current staff is very
Speaker 1: important because no one man can scout three thousand people
Speaker 1: or four thousand people that whatever the number is that
Speaker 1: is eligible to be drafted by the NFL. So you
Speaker 1: have to be able to delegate and you have to
Speaker 1: be able to trust. And I think that's critically important
Speaker 1: to Trent Balky, having been here since January, to be
Speaker 1: able to establish some of the or to be able
Speaker 1: to filter some of the staff, so to speak, and
Speaker 1: it also to evaluate some of the current situations that
Speaker 1: he has. So obviously we've heard over the last few
Speaker 1: press conferences here when urban Meyer was hired and when
Speaker 1: Trent Balky was announced as GM. It is a partnership.
Speaker 1: But even if you go back to the urban Meyer
Speaker 1: press conference, shot Con says that it's urban Meyer's vision
Speaker 1: and the owner and the GM have to support that.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, this is Urban
Speaker 1: Myers vision and Balky and that personnel staff, They're all
Speaker 1: gonna sit down, as as Balky said the other day,
Speaker 1: after everybody's hired and see really where they want this
Speaker 1: thing to be, where they stand with personnel now, and
Speaker 1: then what they have to do the field that in
Speaker 1: free agency and the draft that's coming up down the line.
Speaker 1: But it is a partnership. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day's Erban Meyer's vision of what this football team
Speaker 1: is going to be. Well, I mean, first and foremost, well,
Speaker 1: you're basically talking about having a general manager and a
Speaker 1: coach work in hand in hand, and a scouting staff
Speaker 1: working with the coaching staff to be able to provide
Speaker 1: the players that you need to have. And uh, it's
Speaker 1: crazy that you go back to this time last year
Speaker 1: and we were hearing from Doug Moron and Dave calledwell
Speaker 1: that that didn't exist prior to that point and that
Speaker 1: they were gonna work to make that work this you
Speaker 1: know in and we were sitting there going, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: the scouting department never asked the opinion of coaches. I mean,
Speaker 1: are the coaches the ones that have to coach these
Speaker 1: guys and and have a system, and don't they have
Speaker 1: certain things that they need to let the scouting department
Speaker 1: know that they would like to have in a player's
Speaker 1: traits and abilities to be able to execute their scheme.
Speaker 1: And we found out that that didn't exist prior to
Speaker 1: this past year. So it was it was quite shocking
Speaker 1: that we heard that something was going to change and
Speaker 1: that was gonna start happening. So what we're here now
Speaker 1: is is should be the standard and that general managers
Speaker 1: and coach has got to be working together. And if
Speaker 1: it's the general manager's vision, the coach has to be
Speaker 1: able to execute it. If it's the coach's vision and
Speaker 1: he's the boss man, then the gendermang general manager has
Speaker 1: to facilitate and provide the tools to be able to
Speaker 1: execute that vision and that's what we're seeing right now.
Speaker 1: But but certainly this is not surprising news. It's the
Speaker 1: way it should be in my opinion. You mentioned h
Speaker 1: Balky's right hand man, Tom Gamble is his name of
Speaker 1: former assistant GM with the forty Niners. He was in
Speaker 1: the CFL last year of the Montreal Alouettes, which they
Speaker 1: didn't play football last year by CLU. So there you go.
Speaker 1: That's that's so. Those are some of the changes in
Speaker 1: the GM and the personnel side for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: There are rumors of coaches names will get to some
Speaker 1: of those coming up. Offensive defensive coordinator, special teams coordinators.
Speaker 1: Some of those names have been reported. We'll talk through
Speaker 1: those coming up a little later. The quarterback carousel around
Speaker 1: the National Football League that is only just beginning. We're
Speaker 1: in for an epic offseason at the quarterback position in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Will go around the NFL a little bit
Speaker 1: later as well. And Ashland Sullivan joins us at four
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Speaker 1: we met years ago because I know him, I didn't
Speaker 1: know Whoman. You know, I've been very fortunate in my
Speaker 1: entire head coaching career. I've always looked at everything that
Speaker 1: I've done as a partnership, whether the athletic directors, whether
Speaker 1: it be just people we work with. And as Trent said,
Speaker 1: I mean there's I can't imagine spending more time with
Speaker 1: someone in last of two days and I did it
Speaker 1: really last couple of last week or so other than
Speaker 1: trying to really impressed and uh uh. The alignment is
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Speaker 1: You have it. That's head coach Urban Meyer for the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars alignment partnership. All those words being used and
Speaker 1: welcome back Jaguars happy or kind of like the show
Speaker 1: the Partnership. It's we're aligned on this program. Joe Trumpadia,
Speaker 1: Jeff Flagman, b S JP shat Trick. So, yes we are.
Speaker 1: We're all a line six ft apart. Yes we're distanced,
Speaker 1: but we are aligned at distance, all right. So that
Speaker 1: that was urban Meyer, of course, and the process of
Speaker 1: getting his elite staff assembled continues. The interviews, as we
Speaker 1: understand it, are still continuing. There have been some names
Speaker 1: that have been reported to have been hired by the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, especially at the coordinator positions. Let's start with
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator spot and Darryl Bevil he has been
Speaker 1: reported to have been hired. Nothing official yet. I think
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are going to wait until the entire staff
Speaker 1: is complete to announce the staff as a whole. Whenever
Speaker 1: that is either late this week early next I would
Speaker 1: think would be the case with that. But Bebel has
Speaker 1: been around this league for a long time, logs a
Speaker 1: lot of those years in Seattle Super Bowl runs there
Speaker 1: with the Seahawks and with the Vikings for a number
Speaker 1: of years prior to that with the Lions, most recently
Speaker 1: the last two years, and uh I know he and
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford were pretty tight. But and then going back
Speaker 1: to the Packers days in the early two thousands, that
Speaker 1: was the Brett Farve run. And then he goes to Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Here comes far to Minnesota. Um that that goes back.
Speaker 1: Awhile put your wagon to a good player. JP. He's
Speaker 1: respected around the league though smart it doesn't hurt. Look Uh,
Speaker 1: it's kind of one of the one of the sayings
Speaker 1: that a lot of coaches have talked about around the
Speaker 1: league for many years. And it looks the easiest way
Speaker 1: to become a good coach is to be able to
Speaker 1: coach really good players. And uh. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that that Darryl b is not a good, fine football coach,
Speaker 1: because I think he is a really good football coach.
Speaker 1: I love how he can be very run centric. And
Speaker 1: I think with a young quarterback, much like he had
Speaker 1: with the Seattle Seahawks, and that he's gonna have here
Speaker 1: with a young rookie quarterback right out of the gate,
Speaker 1: that that's what you're gonna have to have to have
Speaker 1: a little bit of patience to allow him to develop.
Speaker 1: And and I thought that he had. He did a
Speaker 1: wonderful job with Russell Wilson early on in his career.
Speaker 1: And yes, he's had the ability to coach Brett Farve
Speaker 1: and did some amazing things with Brett Farve's quarterbacks coach
Speaker 1: in Green Bay's the offensive coordinator in Minnesota. And he
Speaker 1: had one year of this past year with Matt Stafford.
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, Matt Stafford, when when
Speaker 1: we've got an opportunity to see them early in the season,
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions and Matt Stafford were not playing very
Speaker 1: good and uh so Dary Bubble was kind of a
Speaker 1: little bit. Uh hands were tied a little bit because
Speaker 1: the playoffs quarterback wasn't particularly good. So but I think
Speaker 1: he's a good football coach and and it will be
Speaker 1: interesting because you know, Urban obviously has experience on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the football. And no offense is ever
Speaker 1: just the designer the implementation by one man. It's it's
Speaker 1: a conglomeration where everybody's aligned on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the j and uh and they come together and then
Speaker 1: they make a new offense. And so it will it
Speaker 1: will be interesting to see what kind of impressions that
Speaker 1: Urban puts on the offense, what kind of nuances that
Speaker 1: he has. And because you know, when you watch a
Speaker 1: lot of the NFL game, the influence and from college
Speaker 1: has just become more and more and more. And uh so,
Speaker 1: could Urban put his own little twist on on the
Speaker 1: NFL's offensive system. I don't know, but it's gonna be
Speaker 1: fun to watch. You have the right guys to go
Speaker 1: execute it too, obviously, But that's that's that's a big
Speaker 1: part of the battle, is that you've you've got to
Speaker 1: have players that can execute what your plan is going
Speaker 1: to be. And and with the quarterback at Clemson, he
Speaker 1: runs obviously a college system, the college system where the
Speaker 1: quarterback is a running threat. Daryl Bevil ran a system
Speaker 1: in Seattle where he had a quarterback who is a
Speaker 1: legitimate running threat. And so the the ability to create
Speaker 1: and to um to come up with new things to
Speaker 1: innovate on offense when you have that type of ability
Speaker 1: is good. And look, a lot of coaches will tell you,
Speaker 1: first time head coaches, first time offensive coordinators, when they
Speaker 1: have a young quarterback, what is their preference in that
Speaker 1: quarter They want a young quarterback that can make things
Speaker 1: happen with his legs, that can eventually develop with his arm,
Speaker 1: but allow the legs to make up for the lack
Speaker 1: of experience with the arm until the arm catches up
Speaker 1: and experience and so and and and and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of merit to that. But you also because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, all these quarterbacks, even Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: Michael Vick, you know, these guys eventually are going to
Speaker 1: have to be able to perform from the pocket. But
Speaker 1: at least the ability to make things happen with their
Speaker 1: legs while they're young helps kind of get over the hump,
Speaker 1: so to speak. Early on. Let's flip it to the
Speaker 1: defensive side. The reported name that has been hired by
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, Joe Cullen, a familiar name around here. He
Speaker 1: was the d line coach for the Jaguars from through
Speaker 1: the season, most recently with the Baltimore Ravens up until
Speaker 1: this past season, and he's been in the league since
Speaker 1: two thou in six. He started his college coaching career
Speaker 1: back in nineteen. It was the year after you came
Speaker 1: into the NFL. It's it's a long time in coaching
Speaker 1: for Joe Cullen, but it'll be good whenever this is
Speaker 1: officially announced to have Cullen back in the mix here
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. An outstanding personality. We remember his throady, gravely
Speaker 1: scream on the practice field with the defensive line here.
Speaker 1: And I know a few years ago we were in
Speaker 1: Baltimore for a training camp. We got a chance to
Speaker 1: spend a little time with him up there for those
Speaker 1: weeks we were there. But this is his first opportunity
Speaker 1: as a defensive coordinator and defensive play call in the NFL.
Speaker 1: We're watching some video here when he was coaching with
Speaker 1: the Ravens. One thing about Joe is is that nothing's halfway.
Speaker 1: I mean, even his voice inflection when he's doing snap
Speaker 1: counts for drill work is intense. And uh, I love
Speaker 1: the guy. Excited to have him back in Jacksonville. He's
Speaker 1: a he's a good man. And the more good people
Speaker 1: you have, the better chance you have for success. And
Speaker 1: and I will tell you this when you when you
Speaker 1: watch Joe Cullen, or should I say this, When you
Speaker 1: go to watch a practice and Joe Cullen is on
Speaker 1: the field, you you naturally hear him because he's a
Speaker 1: little louder than somebody's but he's not using loud cursing
Speaker 1: expletives and trying to attract attention to himself. He's just
Speaker 1: got a way about him that is a little bit
Speaker 1: magnetic when you want to watch him coach, And so
Speaker 1: no matter where you are on the field, you kind
Speaker 1: of get drawn to where he's at. And he's fun
Speaker 1: to watch coach. And and I said this with Ashland
Speaker 1: last week, j P, when you were off, you know,
Speaker 1: drinking beer and partying and stuff. Was that, Uh, defensive
Speaker 1: line is obviously something that's a little bit near and
Speaker 1: dear to my heart. And I know a little bit
Speaker 1: of something about that position and and some of the
Speaker 1: techniques and the teachings of that position. And when I
Speaker 1: enjoy watching a defensive line coach, I mean when I thoroughly,
Speaker 1: thoroughly enjoy watching a defensive line coach, that's I think
Speaker 1: that's a big compliment because I I don't get bored
Speaker 1: with him, and I don't get board at all. And
Speaker 1: for me, Joe Cullen is fun to watch. He's smart,
Speaker 1: he knows the techniques, he knows defense. And I think
Speaker 1: what the best part is is that he's got a
Speaker 1: certain way about him that he can work with players,
Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna allow him to be a
Speaker 1: real strong Leaders defensive coordinator. Now, I'm happy for his
Speaker 1: opportunity because it's it's not very common for defensive line
Speaker 1: coaches to to get the opportunity to move up to
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator position. A few other notes here. Brian
Speaker 1: Schneider is a name that has been linked to the
Speaker 1: special team's coordinator role here. He has a long time
Speaker 1: in history in Seattle with the Seahawks. And some other
Speaker 1: names that are either no longer here or could be
Speaker 1: coming here. Keena McCardell is headed to the Vikings as
Speaker 1: the wide receiver's coach there. He's gonna be a better
Speaker 1: coach on right away. Justin Jefferson doesn't hurt. What about feeling?
Speaker 1: And he's pretty good too. Yes, they're gonna be just
Speaker 1: And I think uh San j Low has been rumored
Speaker 1: or linked to the Jaguars wide receivers. He's been around
Speaker 1: the league for quite some time. And then former Ravens
Speaker 1: linebacker Zach Or apparently is going to interview with the
Speaker 1: Jaguars as linebackers coach. And yes, former head coach Doug
Speaker 1: Marone is now the offensive line coach at the University
Speaker 1: of Alabama. Well, it's uh him and his buddy have
Speaker 1: reunited on our Nick Saban's staff. Bill O'Brien, the former
Speaker 1: Texans head coach and general manager, also is on the
Speaker 1: staff as the offensive coordinator for Role Tie JP. And
Speaker 1: it seems that where that's the place where coaches go
Speaker 1: to rehab their image. It's the car wash, it really is.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about the last few years and all
Speaker 1: the assistants and analysts that have gone on to head
Speaker 1: coaching or assistant jobs elsewhere. Let me say this first
Speaker 1: of all, Doug Moron doesn't need is in age rehab.
Speaker 1: The Doug good guy. We love him, you know, and
Speaker 1: wish him the best of luck and and and was
Speaker 1: enjoyed working with him for the last few years. And uh,
Speaker 1: but I mean when I say that, to get their
Speaker 1: image rehab. Now, Bill O'Brien, now he might need a
Speaker 1: little bit of rehab, okay, to was image because he
Speaker 1: single handedly has almost destroyed the Texans organization with the
Speaker 1: trades that he executed, and uh, having a franchise quarterback
Speaker 1: and then just totally messing everything else up. It's hard
Speaker 1: to do when you have a franchise quarterback to mess
Speaker 1: things up, but he found a way and then eventually
Speaker 1: got fired in a in a power struggle, but so
Speaker 1: he needs to rehab and Doug, I think is probably
Speaker 1: excited to go back and to work with with Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien because those two were together ages ago. Doug talked
Speaker 1: about many times at Georgia Tech planned to come here.
Speaker 1: On Jaguar's Happy Hour, Ashland Sullivan is standing by. We'll
Speaker 1: get her recap of the week in mobile alab Bama
Speaker 1: at Senior Bowl practices. The game coming up this weekend,
Speaker 1: but Ashland is back home. We'll hear from her coming up.
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Speaker 1: what urban Brainston stayed about anything else? As an ability
Speaker 1: to to pro gramming to build a program, and you know,
Speaker 1: he showed that at Bowling Green, at Utah, at Florida
Speaker 1: and Ohio State, and so I think as much as
Speaker 1: anything else, I think you see an organization that probably
Speaker 1: needed to be torn down a little bit because there
Speaker 1: have been sort of different iterations of the same thing
Speaker 1: coming through and this is really what that is. And
Speaker 1: you know, I think what Urban is gonna bring is
Speaker 1: something that's very holistic, and you're gonna see over the
Speaker 1: next few months. I think you're gonna see the importance
Speaker 1: of nutrition and strength and um and player development and
Speaker 1: all of these things I think are part of the
Speaker 1: deal that you get when you bring in an Urban Myers.
Speaker 1: That's Albert Breer of The Sports Illustrated Monday Morning Quarterback
Speaker 1: and welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour, j Q, Shadrick,
Speaker 1: Jeff Lagoman. That interview was recorded in Mobile, Alabama this
Speaker 1: week at Senior Bowl practices, and Ashlyn Sullivan was standing
Speaker 1: off camera on that interview, conducting it with Albert Brier
Speaker 1: and many more all the coverage on Jaguars dot com. Ashlyn,
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Welcome back to Jacksonville. Thank you. It was
Speaker 1: quite the drive six hours. Wasn't prepared for that. Listen
Speaker 1: to a few podcasts, but happy too. Me back and Hi, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I'm not an upgrade. I don't know if you heard
Speaker 1: about the joke I've made last week. JP kind of
Speaker 1: insulted Jeff and John and everyone. So I'm sorry about it.
Speaker 1: And I figured Jeff would have let you know, well,
Speaker 1: it's all good. We had some fun with it, and
Speaker 1: uh uh, she said, all right, we're gonna make it upgrade.
Speaker 1: I said, what, I'm just sitting there going what I'm
Speaker 1: talking that, we had some fun with it. Love it.
Speaker 1: So was this your first go around and Mobile? Actually
Speaker 1: it wasn't a kind of a sad start to the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl because COVID nineteen definitely changed up the image
Speaker 1: I had of the Senior Bowl and Mobile as a whole.
Speaker 1: I know, you know what very well, JP, and streets
Speaker 1: were empty, no one in restaurants. And because the changes
Speaker 1: that we're going to see to the NFL combine this year,
Speaker 1: that's what made the Senior Bowl so important this year.
Speaker 1: In fact, we were tooled that every single prospect that
Speaker 1: was participating in the Senior Bowl this year will be drafted,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to think about when you see all
Speaker 1: those guys out there on the field. But needless to say,
Speaker 1: it was an interesting first trip to the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 1: but definitely impactful. Beautiful new stadium on the campus of
Speaker 1: the University of South Alabama, by the way, they've gone
Speaker 1: away from Ladin People's Stadium for the first time and
Speaker 1: using that fantastic facility there. It's a good point Ashland
Speaker 1: because there is nothing else except for pro days the
Speaker 1: rest of the way, so the scouts and everybody have
Speaker 1: to lean on game tape and the very little that
Speaker 1: they get to see these guys in person. Well, here's
Speaker 1: the thing JP and Ashland is that you you have
Speaker 1: game type for some, but then there's some as you
Speaker 1: go you don't have game tape on and some some
Speaker 1: guys opted out, so you don't have any from So
Speaker 1: I think this is the year that that scouting staffs
Speaker 1: really really gonna earn their pay pay and uh, and
Speaker 1: a lot of the decision is going to be based
Speaker 1: on faith and and so some of the past scouting
Speaker 1: work is certainly going to be very valuable in Ashlyn.
Speaker 1: The Senior Bowl stuff, I mean, coaches are going to
Speaker 1: be more apt to make decisions on people that they
Speaker 1: can see and and players they can trust, and scouts
Speaker 1: are are are human, They're gonna trust what they've seen.
Speaker 1: And so the players that have played more in have
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to participate in a Senior Bowl, those
Speaker 1: type of players are going to have a higher grade
Speaker 1: on them. I think just dowt to sheer trust because
Speaker 1: they could been They've been seen, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan. With us covering the Senior Bowl and Mobile
Speaker 1: this week, you know, urban Meyer and Trent Baukey were
Speaker 1: not in attendance this week. I'm sure there was some
Speaker 1: other Jaguar representation there though. What was we heard from
Speaker 1: Albert Bridge just then and the interviews available and you've
Speaker 1: caught up with a few other folks I know during
Speaker 1: the weekend mobile. General reaction to the hiring of urban
Speaker 1: Meyer and the regime change in Jacksonville seems pretty positive
Speaker 1: for sure. And you almost couldn't get away from it.
Speaker 1: We were at practice and you're watching the prospects on
Speaker 1: the field and someone would come up to you and say, oh,
Speaker 1: what about urban Meyer? What about the general manager of
Speaker 1: number one overall pig. It's gotta be Trevor Lawrence right,
Speaker 1: it was everywhere when you were in Jaguars employee and mobile.
Speaker 1: I'm talking hotel, restaurants, definitely all the buzz about urban Meyer.
Speaker 1: And the most interesting part, I think Albert Breer was
Speaker 1: definitely very much involved in the reporting of urban Meyer
Speaker 1: coming to Jacksonville. And it was really interesting when he
Speaker 1: was talking about We heard it in the press conference
Speaker 1: when Coach Meyer said that he's going to hold his
Speaker 1: coaches accountable. But Albert Breer was really knowledgeable about that
Speaker 1: when back in his time at Ohio State saying that
Speaker 1: it's up to you to coach these players. Players in
Speaker 1: the NFL, they can play, and if they're not up
Speaker 1: to the level that they're playing, that's on you, the coaches.
Speaker 1: So it kind of came full circle. We heard that
Speaker 1: in his press on for instance, Albert Brier echoed that
Speaker 1: that coach Meyer is going to hold this coaching staff
Speaker 1: whatever it looks like. He's gonna hold him accountable, no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. And by the way, Albert Brier is
Speaker 1: the biggest Ohio State homer there is. I was we
Speaker 1: were kind of joking around Ashlyn earlier with Joe and
Speaker 1: UH and JP and I and this philosophy of holding
Speaker 1: coaches accountable, and urban is going to be quick to
Speaker 1: blame the coach instead of the player. And there's an
Speaker 1: old saying is that it can roll downhill. And so
Speaker 1: the head coach is gonna be on to his assistant
Speaker 1: because it's his assistance job to make sure that he's
Speaker 1: demanding other player. And that's the old downhill effect and
Speaker 1: that there's there's nothing wrong with that, and that's the
Speaker 1: way it should be. You can't expect head coach to
Speaker 1: be able to immediately start blaming the player. He has
Speaker 1: to blame the coach first so that the coach can
Speaker 1: get more out of the player. That's what coaches jobs
Speaker 1: are for. I mean, they're there to coach them up,
Speaker 1: to develop them, to make them better. So it makes sense.
Speaker 1: And uh again that there's a there's a different name
Speaker 1: for it. I was going to ask you what it was.
Speaker 1: It down it does He was right, actually, Sullivan with
Speaker 1: us covering the Senior Bowl this week in Mobile, Alabama.
Speaker 1: So take us through the rest of the coverage throughout
Speaker 1: the week. What can folks find on Jaguars dot com
Speaker 1: to recap the week that was? Yes, we have all
Speaker 1: kinds of national media interviews and scouts and all of
Speaker 1: that coming up on Jaguars dot Com. A few more
Speaker 1: of those than we're actually going to shoot with Bucky
Speaker 1: Brooks here later on today, who has actually been broadcasting
Speaker 1: every single practice and the game on NFL Network. So
Speaker 1: that guy more than anyone. It was all about these
Speaker 1: prospects and he's getting ready for those mock drafts. So
Speaker 1: that's to come on Jaguars dot Com. Be good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bucky has been at his house in Los Angeles this week,
Speaker 1: which is a big change from his coverage. They're still
Speaker 1: doing it live like we've do all the shows live
Speaker 1: throughout the off season, but he's sitting on his couch
Speaker 1: instead of sitting in the stands and Mobile this year,
Speaker 1: so we'll look forward to that coming up. Ashton, well
Speaker 1: done this week. I hope you enjoyed Mobile and all
Speaker 1: it has to offer, and we'll catch you again soon.
Speaker 1: Sounds good. I'll see Ashland Sullivan out of here, Jaguars Reporter,
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com. She and John Osa were over there
Speaker 1: with the crew this week getting some things done. No,
Speaker 1: I actually saw some of the stuff and uh, and
Speaker 1: they did a great job and I really enjoyed listening
Speaker 1: to Bucky Brooks of the last couple of weeks, you know,
Speaker 1: doing the show with him and having him come on
Speaker 1: and and uh, sharing ideas and and having a conversation
Speaker 1: with him. I think he does a very good job,
Speaker 1: and I'd love to be able to spend some time
Speaker 1: with him in person, you know, a Jaguars practice or
Speaker 1: or something. The other thought. Last year obviously that wasn't
Speaker 1: able to happen. You know, he was gonna do the
Speaker 1: Jaguars preseason games on television, I believe, and then obviously
Speaker 1: with COVID it changed everything and so he we didn't
Speaker 1: get it. We didn't get a chance to see him much.
Speaker 1: But but hopefully this year preseason games come back and
Speaker 1: limited fashion. Oh you you don't want the full don't
Speaker 1: need that and uh, and then we get a chance
Speaker 1: to see him. It would be all good, it would
Speaker 1: be and uh. But in the meantime, we have him
Speaker 1: throughout this offseason as well, and obviously always have Ashland
Speaker 1: available each week on Jaguars dot Com. The drivetime show
Speaker 1: kicks back up here very soon on Tuesdays after the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, so a couple of weeks away before that
Speaker 1: weekly show up. More podcast popping up over the next
Speaker 1: few weeks as well, so plenty of coverage of the
Speaker 1: off season ahead on Jaguars dot Com. We're back in
Speaker 1: a moment with quarterback changes, not just in Jacksonville, but
Speaker 1: maybe two thirds of the league could have a new
Speaker 1: starting quarterback next year. The carousel is only starting to
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Speaker 1: along with us. Final few minutes of the program. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's only one hour this week, the two hours the
Speaker 1: thing is gone for the off season. What was the
Speaker 1: Doug Moron Show then turned into a second hour of
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the network, but now will be
Speaker 1: one hour from here until whenever football starts again. What
Speaker 1: is that August? Yeah, maybe July maybe, Julie ever know, well,
Speaker 1: I mean we've started two hours in July before. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we yeah, we have yeah. Maybe so if things start
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Speaker 1: You know, if we're in the Hall of Fame game
Speaker 1: in Canton. That'd be a fifth preseason No, no, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe we would start earlier, but logs would not be involved.
Speaker 1: The the the lack of preseason games last year was
Speaker 1: really nice, and I hope that the league learned from
Speaker 1: last year, because I seriously when I say that, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to be funny. I'm trying to be serious
Speaker 1: and that I think the league learned a lot from
Speaker 1: the year, and that you don't have to do a
Speaker 1: lot of things to still have good football played on Sundays,
Speaker 1: and that you can do some things that are out
Speaker 1: of the box thinking. And and the only reason that
Speaker 1: we were able to see some out of the box
Speaker 1: things was because everybody was forced out of the box
Speaker 1: with COVID, and so even some of the aids in
Speaker 1: which television games were broadcasts. There a couple of games
Speaker 1: I want to say, Mike Tarico and Tony Romo broadcast
Speaker 1: from home. Uh, we were broadcasting from the stadium from
Speaker 1: Jaguars road games, and and we had a tremendous support
Speaker 1: staff to be able to make that happen, and I
Speaker 1: thought it was very very well done. And so coaches
Speaker 1: had to do things that were different, players had to
Speaker 1: do things that were different, and so much like when
Speaker 1: Trent Balky earlier was talking about how you never stopped
Speaker 1: learning in this process, you can never stop learning, and
Speaker 1: especially when you have a year like and I think
Speaker 1: the league needs to learn certain things. And and when
Speaker 1: Trent Balky talks about the journey and you're always learning
Speaker 1: and everything and he and he's so true. And you know,
Speaker 1: going back to Gus Bradley, who he used to say
Speaker 1: that the three most dangerous words were what JP do
Speaker 1: you got it? I got it? Right? When you say
Speaker 1: I got it, that means you have stopped learning. And
Speaker 1: so what Gus said and what Trent Balky is talking
Speaker 1: about about the process of continually learning, it's the same message,
Speaker 1: the same the same type of thing, just in a
Speaker 1: different way. And I think the league has learned a
Speaker 1: lot from and it will be interesting to see what
Speaker 1: gets implemented on even maybe a more permanent basis going
Speaker 1: into being in one and beyond. Let's touch on this
Speaker 1: quarterback carousel that is continuing to add horses to it,
Speaker 1: if you will. Over the last few days, Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: has requested a trade. The day that the Texans were
Speaker 1: going to introduce their new head coach, David Culley, the
Speaker 1: news comes out that he wants out. He does have
Speaker 1: a no trade cost, but he wants out. Matt Stafford
Speaker 1: among those names that could be moving this offseason. Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers was in that mix, but the Packers would be
Speaker 1: crazy if that happened, Jamne Newton, Jameis Winston, just to
Speaker 1: name a few, and even Adam Schefter ESPN said that
Speaker 1: there's what about ten to twelve teams that could have
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback locked in right now for next year.
Speaker 1: That means that there's two thirds of the league that
Speaker 1: will have a new starting quarterback next season. There's always
Speaker 1: turnover at the position, yes, but this feels like one
Speaker 1: of those off seasons that will remember for a long time. Well,
Speaker 1: the Jaguars aren't going to be in that category, there'll
Speaker 1: be one of the two things are not going to
Speaker 1: be in the two thirds. Love, but it's kind of
Speaker 1: be new, but it's a new starting they count new,
Speaker 1: but it's expected. Well, yeah, so that makes it better.
Speaker 1: He doesn't, doesn't. I don't know. Looking when you were
Speaker 1: you getting a first overall pick on the draft? Better
Speaker 1: be better? Better, JP, I mean, come on, it can't
Speaker 1: be much worse. So my point is is that you
Speaker 1: know who the quarterback is going to be in Jacksonville
Speaker 1: pretty much. I mean it's you know, it's not a deal,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's about as close to hundred percent
Speaker 1: as you can get, you know, So I think that
Speaker 1: that's gonna be an exciting year for quarterback play. And
Speaker 1: that's the reality. The reality is is that if you
Speaker 1: have one of the third uh, if you're in that
Speaker 1: third group that has a quarterback and he's coming back,
Speaker 1: you're pretty good. You know, you're pretty well set. But
Speaker 1: even some of those I mean, are you really that
Speaker 1: set and feeling really good about where you're at? The
Speaker 1: best of the best are the teams that we just
Speaker 1: saw play. Yeah, well, the ones that are still playing
Speaker 1: and the list that just played and then and then
Speaker 1: even some of the ones that played before that that
Speaker 1: were in the playoffs. I mean, you look at the playoffs.
Speaker 1: The playoffs were about teams that had really good quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and that's the way it will always be. For the
Speaker 1: most part. There will be the occasional Okay, you made
Speaker 1: it somewhere because you had a really good defense and
Speaker 1: you had a really good running game and your quarterbacks
Speaker 1: just didn't hurt you and didn't get you beat. But
Speaker 1: I mean, for the most part, the quarterback is a
Speaker 1: big reason as to why you have success, and you've
Speaker 1: got to have one, and so it's gonna be exciting
Speaker 1: to be able to watch the growth of a first
Speaker 1: overall pick of the draft quarterback that the Agards are
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get. I mean, this is this
Speaker 1: is a territory that this franchise has never seen before.
Speaker 1: This franchise has swung for franchise quarterbacks in the past
Speaker 1: and have that struck out. And this prospect and Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence many considered considered to be on par with like
Speaker 1: an Andrew Luck. I mean, that's probably the closest thing
Speaker 1: that and uh, and that's out standing. And from watching
Speaker 1: the film on him, and and and I've watched some
Speaker 1: I haven't watched a thousand hours of film on him,
Speaker 1: but boy, he's He didn't have a great playoff game
Speaker 1: there at the end the National Championship game, but everything
Speaker 1: else you turned on in the past National championship games,
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is outstanding. He has he has
Speaker 1: all the tools. I mean, you gotta have the toolbox
Speaker 1: to have a chance. He's got the toolbox. Now these
Speaker 1: other teams in the division. Obviously, Philip Rivers has retired.
Speaker 1: He's gonna coach high school football for him Baldwin County, Alabama.
Speaker 1: Good for him school there. And then if the DeShawn
Speaker 1: Watson situation continues to escalate and he's no longer in
Speaker 1: Houston for some reason and playing somewhere else. That means
Speaker 1: three of the four teams in the division will have
Speaker 1: new starting quarterbacks. Can you imagine if you're David Kelley,
Speaker 1: You're excited he got job, finally got He's been in
Speaker 1: the league forever, if he has been around forever, has
Speaker 1: never gotten an opportunity, finally gets his opportunity. And then
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson across the trade. It's a tough situation going
Speaker 1: in anyway with Watson there if he was even happy
Speaker 1: and the Texans, the Texans still continue to be a dartboard.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, I mean that that's probably the best
Speaker 1: way to describe it. I mean, people are throwing darts
Speaker 1: at him, and it's ever all the darts are sticking
Speaker 1: because it's it's hard to argue against some of the
Speaker 1: criticism that the Texans have been receiving. Do you know
Speaker 1: we know what that feels like? The last couple of
Speaker 1: years around here have been that for the Jaguars, Well,
Speaker 1: think about that a little different. And when I say
Speaker 1: what the difference is is that the Jaguars have been
Speaker 1: an easy target because you can't argue when you don't win.
Speaker 1: And that's what the Jaguars in the category they're at,
Speaker 1: they weren't winning. The Texans have one, but they have
Speaker 1: a situation on their in their organization that many are
Speaker 1: taking shots at it. And like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: if this situation is toxic and bad, I mean, who knows,
Speaker 1: Maybe it'll it'll work out great and they win. I
Speaker 1: don't know. But the Texans have become a punching bag
Speaker 1: for those and and that cover the National Football League.
Speaker 1: I mean that really, I mean, they have been arguably
Speaker 1: the number one punching bag target in the league since
Speaker 1: the end of the season. It's only gonna get worse.
Speaker 1: I mean for them if this worse, because the Texans
Speaker 1: don't have the tools to be able to climb out
Speaker 1: of a whole, and if they don't have a Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson to give them a chance, because they have their
Speaker 1: void of draft picks, they have serious cap issues. They
Speaker 1: have a lot of things to overcome. And then also
Speaker 1: the public perception is also one of those things that
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to overcome. It's gonna be tough, tough
Speaker 1: going for the Texans. Now, sorry about it. And then
Speaker 1: here's here's a crazy thing that the Cults could end
Speaker 1: up going back to back years with journeyman veteran quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: They could end up very easily with uh the lines
Speaker 1: quarterback Stafford. That could end up with him easily. In fact,
Speaker 1: if if if I were a bett man, i I
Speaker 1: put that the Cults are probably the most favorite destination.
Speaker 1: They got a pretty good team already in place. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's my point. First, they have the
Speaker 1: cap room. Um, they are not afraid afraid about acquiring
Speaker 1: a veteran guy. Now the asking price may be an
Speaker 1: issue because that's the difference between like a Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: and um, Matt Stafford. Now you're asking for you gotta
Speaker 1: give give up compensation. M That to me is interesting,
Speaker 1: it is and it will be something to watch. This
Speaker 1: will be a fun couple of months ahead with all
Speaker 1: those changes coming around the National Football League. And that
Speaker 1: We'll finish tonight with some news that broke just a
Speaker 1: little bit ago that former Jaguars quarterback Mark Brunel is
Speaker 1: interviewing with the Detroit Lions for the quarterback Coach opening logs.
Speaker 1: That could be interesting him. You know what if if
Speaker 1: if he if he wants and I hope he gets it.
Speaker 1: You know. He's Uh, Mark, good guy, played a lot
Speaker 1: of years, played a lot of really good quarterback, knows
Speaker 1: a lot about the game, knows a lot about the position. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I think he would be an outstanding coach in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. And obviously the time spent coaching here
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville at the high school level, I'm sure has
Speaker 1: helped him out tremendously in the ability to communicate and
Speaker 1: all that. And so I look, I'm a big Mark
Speaker 1: Burnel fan, and and I wish him nothing but luck
Speaker 1: and that if he wants the job, I hope he
Speaker 1: gets it. I would be fired up for him when
Speaker 1: he played eighteen years. Yeah, a long time back up
Speaker 1: after his time here, but still he's been The least
Speaker 1: crazy thing is that when Mark Burnell was playing twenty years,
Speaker 1: we were all thinking, golly, nobody ever plays twenty years,
Speaker 1: you know, and he was a backup. Now Here it
Speaker 1: comes Tom Brady going to Super Bowl at forty three, tenth,
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, ten, super Bowl, what was it? How many
Speaker 1: championship games did he play? Oh, it's I mean something crazy,
Speaker 1: you know, so uh and uh, and he just got
Speaker 1: done facing m Rodgers, who was the thirty seven year
Speaker 1: old quarterback who just probably capped off a league MVP season.
Speaker 1: I mean, age for quarterbacks is not a big deal.
Speaker 1: And now obviously they protect the quarterbacks a lot better
Speaker 1: than they used to, right, And it's good. It's good
Speaker 1: for that's good for the game. Yeah, it is. It is.
Speaker 1: That's it's a quarterback game. It's as urban Meyer says,
Speaker 1: it's it's a quarterback sport. That's just a quarterback league.
Speaker 1: Every league is what you're called hockey. What do you mean,
Speaker 1: like if you're saying that football is a quarterback sport, okay,
Speaker 1: in in hockey, is it a goalie sports? A center sport?
Speaker 1: It's you gotta score more goals? Right, Yeah, but my JP,
Speaker 1: my point is that if you had to single out
Speaker 1: one position and other sports to say that hockey is
Speaker 1: a goalie sport, or that baseball is a it's a
Speaker 1: pitcher or a RBI like a drive in runs, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not a position, man. Well that anybody can do that.
Speaker 1: Anybody can do what driving? Driving? I'm so confused, Thank goodness.
Speaker 1: This show is about over. That's Joe Fortunado Trimpa Dilla
Speaker 1: is on our video this week, Jeff Logan to my left,
Speaker 1: you're right, and that's JP. He's confused. I am, yes,
Speaker 1: perpetually confused on this show or thanks to Ashlyn Sullivan
Speaker 1: for joining us as well. She was. She was an
Speaker 1: upgrade by the way last week, absolutely no doubt. Could
Speaker 1: be back again soon at this rate. Uh, look coming
Speaker 1: up very soon. If not this week, early next maybe
Speaker 1: coaching hires could be announced. Stay tuned for everything on
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