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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition to all the smoke by

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Speaker 1: you drop. What's up bro? Day two in l A.

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Speaker 1: It's been a good got off to a good star yesterday. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna high right now. I'm high, but I'm on

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Speaker 1: a high as you shar Bo heart baby bar. We

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Speaker 1: gotta so when you'all been waiting on man, been asking for,

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Speaker 1: when you're gonna get him, When you're gonna get him,

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Speaker 1: When you're gonna get him. We found this motherfucker man

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Speaker 1: some time. Good to see you. Boy. Time was crazy.

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Speaker 1: Tell me one thing you took from that you either

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Speaker 1: catch up or get left. She wasn't gonna be the same,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You wasn't gonna be the

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Speaker 1: It wasn't gonna be the same as you were, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So you either had to catch

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Speaker 1: someone who was in front of your separate yourself were

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Speaker 1: you're just gonna get left? What you do a little

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Speaker 1: bit of both. Wey caught me way called me. But

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Speaker 1: you know it gave me enough time to think think

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Speaker 1: about the future, to think about the past, and then

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Speaker 1: you know, just trying to you know, build and you know,

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Speaker 1: just be a smarter man than I was before seasons

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Speaker 1: crazy obviously went to the bubble because you have handled

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Speaker 1: the bubble. What what what kind of shenanigans would you

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Speaker 1: have got into in the bubble? That would have went

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Speaker 1: right up my alley though, because you know it's straight

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Speaker 1: hoop on game day. I'm you know, it's I'm a mute,

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Speaker 1: I'm a hermit. You know what I mean. I didn't

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Speaker 1: talk on the phones. I used as loot as least

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Speaker 1: words I can possibly use on game is you know,

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Speaker 1: just all thinking about the game. Um so that would

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Speaker 1: have been an amazing environment for me personally, but the

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Speaker 1: team we had it would have been a struggle because

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Speaker 1: you know, as you know, as a vet, you still

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Speaker 1: got to think about the rest of the players. Team

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Speaker 1: are you taking in the bubble with your team? Are

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Speaker 1: you're talking about? Like if I was gonna take a

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Speaker 1: team in the bubble, it would have been like it

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Speaker 1: would have been with Larry Hughes in it, because I know,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's yeah, that's a cool group. Sean Stevenson group.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, Sean, I got I got a young Dravel,

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Speaker 1: I got Andre Blotch. You know you got Nick Young Still,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, no, they wouldn't hand that bubble right,

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Speaker 1: it would have been a whole bunch of loose and

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't have sitting no chicken wings. We can't here

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Speaker 1: for the ass? What what? What? What teams and players

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Speaker 1: are you following these days? You know, obviously you know

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Speaker 1: you're gonna watch what Brooklyn is doing over there. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna watch the Lakers, um Clippers, you know, Philly, you

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Speaker 1: know it's you know, you know, as I've been down,

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Speaker 1: do you feel like they're missing Jimmy Butler? You know,

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought that who he was as a

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Speaker 1: player and a person, you know, a third option, smart

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Speaker 1: enough to understand that I have go to guys, let

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Speaker 1: me do. Let me give them the ball, and I'll

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Speaker 1: do what I do if I need carry out carry

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Speaker 1: But then I'm gonna feed off of you guys. But

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Speaker 1: he's a bucket getter at the end. So I thought

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Speaker 1: he would put and beat and check when it counted,

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Speaker 1: and he would. He really looked up to him too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And because he's gonna he's gonna challenge and beat, you know,

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Speaker 1: with and be being an alphab by himself. He's still young.

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Speaker 1: There's no one to keep him in check. You know,

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Speaker 1: you have an imbalanced team. Talk to me, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: I love your basketball annalysis. I don't think you get

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Speaker 1: enough credit for us. So all we got you here,

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Speaker 1: talk to me about Brooklyn. What you see over there,

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Speaker 1: and they're ceiling their ceiling if they have one. They

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Speaker 1: have too much offense, and it's it's scary because with

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Speaker 1: the type of players they have, you can't double, you

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Speaker 1: can't set no type of game plan for and if

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Speaker 1: you have to go against them in seven games, I

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Speaker 1: mean one is going to give you problems too. On fire,

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Speaker 1: you lost three on fire. It's a nightmare. So unless

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Speaker 1: the Lakers start acquiring more talent to keep up with

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Speaker 1: the scoring, no one's gonna be able to shut them

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Speaker 1: down long enough to win any games. See them winning

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Speaker 1: it all this year if they stay healthy. They won

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Speaker 1: a championship last year, and I gave the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: a C minus at best. I just thought some of

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Speaker 1: the lineups they had didn't do the team well. You know,

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Speaker 1: are never gonna drive they're never gonna penetrate. What do

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Speaker 1: I need to guarden for? You know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put all my eyes on YouTube. Now,

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Speaker 1: YouTube gotta work harder. They're here for defense, but they're

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Speaker 1: guarding someone who's trying to score thirty. So this guy,

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Speaker 1: even with great defense, he's gonna score twenty. You're giving

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Speaker 1: So I just thought the lineups made it harder for

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Speaker 1: the Lakers, you know. I was like, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing CU's mad the one, Brian at the two, you know,

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Speaker 1: they were to put that, you know against Miami, series

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Speaker 1: have been over in two. Yeah, they were just quit

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Speaker 1: the other two games, Like now we need to go

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Speaker 1: to show up for these two Clippers. What about them?

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Speaker 1: What do you think about them? I mean, besides them

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Speaker 1: being the coppers Uma work. Yeah, it's hard because you

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Speaker 1: don't you don't really have a real alpha male. You know,

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Speaker 1: you got Kauai's quiet you know, you know he's a

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Speaker 1: quiet guy. You know where you're gonna get from him.

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Speaker 1: Paul is still I think he's he's fighting for his

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Speaker 1: starting back. You know, injuries. You know, even last year,

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Speaker 1: you know, two shoulder injuries. So mentally he's still challenging himself.

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Speaker 1: With the rest of the team, you need someone who

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Speaker 1: And I don't think they had it last year, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have it this year. They don't.

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Speaker 1: They just don't have enough to keep them on top.

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Speaker 1: Rondo doesn't do How do you think Rondo, I mean Rondo,

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Speaker 1: Rondo changes, Rondo changes things. They did need a point guard.

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Speaker 1: But you you lose scoring off the bench with lou So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they would have kept loud and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I like the team a lot better.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that you lose two points coming off

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Speaker 1: where's where's the points gonna come from when you really

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Speaker 1: need it? Last Team Milwaukee, what do you need to

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Speaker 1: see from Janice? You feel for them to reach their potential? Skill?

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Speaker 1: It's still raw talent. Explained that because some people don't

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Speaker 1: understand because's winning m VP awards, he's putting up crazy numbers.

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Speaker 1: But I know exactly what you're talking about. But explain

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Speaker 1: that for the people who who don't raw talent is

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Speaker 1: the Westbrooks. You know where you're just God's gift, you

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Speaker 1: that super athletic guy that you got I with athleticism,

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Speaker 1: being stronger, faster, and when I say skills like the

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Speaker 1: Butgotti doesn't mean ship, you know what I mean, having Agatti,

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Speaker 1: you better off having a hand at that point, you

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Speaker 1: at least so when the game gets the last two minutes,

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Speaker 1: and in the playoffs, when it's a half court game,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have skill. He's still trying to play this

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Speaker 1: regular season open court style, and he needs to learn

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Speaker 1: how to back to the basket, understand the concept of

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Speaker 1: ever shot a from free line? I'm gonna al right,

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Speaker 1: come on, then we don't know, okay. So that's one

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Speaker 1: thing I said you, you'll never be the best player

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Speaker 1: my life, no point, How does that happen? But you know,

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Speaker 1: And they practice more than anybody else. They practice more

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Speaker 1: just don't. Just just that's just that's that's what they do.

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Speaker 1: That's like when you're golf and don't hit in the water.

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Speaker 1: Hit in the water where you going in the water. Never,

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Speaker 1: I would never shoot the app out of the free

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Speaker 1: but that's but you know, that's that's what those guys

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Speaker 1: we see like Kyrie and all the guards it's in

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Speaker 1: I'm a scoring guard, you know what I'm so, I'm

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Speaker 1: here trying to make blazing. I just give me a

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Speaker 1: the fact that you know these guards are just you know,

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Speaker 1: the area where they were calling somebody like Steph ball yeah,

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Speaker 1: Other than that, I'm looking at that ril. I trained

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Speaker 1: too much. I trained too much of me passing the

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Speaker 1: ball just like here you go. Yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 1: know you took twenty shots, you know in Warren most

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Speaker 1: but I'm going, head man, don't give you the ball?

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Speaker 1: Like no, man, that's selfish, that selfish that you want

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Speaker 1: the ball you don't. You don't practice or your game

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Speaker 1: that much selfish? Right. The one thing that people don't

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Speaker 1: Ethic is is second to none. The way you lock

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Speaker 1: in just the ship. You said about game days, but

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Speaker 1: you didn't want to use words like your preparation and

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Speaker 1: one point in one and talk to you about that.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later. But where did your work

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Speaker 1: ethic come from? And tell people some of the routines

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Speaker 1: good enough, you know what I mean? Like you know

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Speaker 1: the Vegas had fifty at the half, you know, you

424
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I was really putting in network.

425
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: And let's just just say this. I mean, uh, I

426
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Speaker 1: beat Chris Mills. I'm gonna say I beat Chris Mills,

427
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: all great Chris Mills of l A. I beat him

428
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. I went in two thou seventeen.

429
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: He went in this year. Mhm. I probably cat your

430
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: ass for that one, but you know what I mean.

431
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta remember that was my that was

432
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Speaker 1: my vet, you know what I mean. He was all

433
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Speaker 1: l A. So he's considered top three best l A

434
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: players in high school. And I said, well, that ship

435
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: don't mean nothing because l A says, I'm a Hall

436
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: of Fame guy. Before you fail, who's your top five

437
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: l A players, whether they made it or not, I don't.

438
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the niggas like that,

439
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 1: you know, no one like that. I'm that was valley like.

440
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 1: I was a valley kid. I remember used to come

441
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: to you see. It was crazy because I meant, what

442
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 1: what do you grad school? I graduate N nine? So

443
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: I remember used to come up to U C. L A.

444
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: But they wouldn't let you play. Now, they wouldn't let me.

445
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes you did. He would just be over there shooting.

446
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'd reround for him, like on the off game,

447
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 1: and I just and he would just keep working. They

448
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: would never let him play. It was crazy. I don't

449
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: because that's what I said. It's like I'm trying to

450
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to find out where the best

451
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: run is. So once I heard was like, that's what

452
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: I said. I was there years before, like my sophomore year,

453
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 1: they're just sitting there like, yeah, they're gonna put me. Nope,

454
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: all right, junior year Nope, and my senior year. I

455
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: remember my senior year, I got the it was the

456
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: re faster and you know, best point guard in the world,

457
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: remember the Slam magazine. But watching reading all the treaty

458
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: she did like yeah. And then and then go to

459
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: U C. L A. And he's there and I get

460
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm in the game. And then on the fast break

461
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: did some ship Like my mind said he was gonna

462
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: throw it off this and do all one of those.

463
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what he did, but I know I

464
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: spent about three times and then before I realized what

465
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: was happening. He was already down the court. I went

466
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: to my dad, like, yo, he's the best in the world.

467
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: He's the best in the world. It was, it was,

468
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: it was true. He did some tricky ship like I

469
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: started making up my own ship what he did to

470
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: be that funny, you know. But I used to go

471
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: there all the time trying to figure out what the

472
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: you know, what the talent was and looking at players.

473
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: I remember it was a Lonnie Gardner, you know, like

474
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: you know him with that move just that that that

475
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: that side throw, like when people are like, yeah, it's no,

476
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: I know that side through come dunk and then um

477
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: rush boy. He was called he was cold. People don't

478
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: know how cold. We had a hell of a class.

479
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: But then that's what I say. You so, when do

480
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: you feel like you were on the map then? And

481
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: it was in College of the Arizona when you put

482
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Speaker 1: yourself on the map. Even even even even when I

483
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: went to Arizona, Um, you know I got fault. You

484
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: know there's you know, I'm on the team with four

485
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: you know what was your team? We had Jason Gardner,

486
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: Um I was at the two. We had Richard Jefferson

487
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: at the three. microL right at the four a m

488
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: my my, my freshman year, we had little record who

489
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: came in from Iowa, and then we had Lithuania kid

490
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: who who holds a record you know for like dunking

491
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: twelve six or thirteen ft you know. So we had

492
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 1: so much talent. So I was getting read. We had

493
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: a juco player co runner for the year, Lamon Fraser,

494
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: you know. So we had some boys coming in. So

495
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: I was the young buck, you know, like they're gonna

496
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: red shirt me and cool I can learn and my

497
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: assholing is n't kicked in. Yeah, my assholes kicked in.

498
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: So I was like, man, I'm about to go for

499
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: the position, bro, because coach, you know, coach like all right,

500
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: so listen the four and the five is set one

501
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: to three, fight for it. Like, oh my ship, I

502
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: started training fun that school ship. That's what you're supposed

503
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: to go there, right, that's what you was on two right.

504
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: I wish I could have got the national championship. I

505
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: end up losing by not getting in. They wanted to

506
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: tell you fresh, my biggy fresh medal. Ye, that's the championship.

507
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: I missed it not taking the test, showing up blade hungover. Yeah,

508
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: so I didn't. I just I just started training, watching

509
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: the habits of you know, like Ruben Douglas. And then

510
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: like people said, like Ruben Douglas, we played against each

511
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: other in high school. Um, I was faster, he was stronger, bigger,

512
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: but I was I was more athletic, and he just

513
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: didn't know my skill. Like I improved since high school.

514
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: So when coach threw that ball up, I was a

515
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: whole another demon. So when I stole a position, he

516
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: was like, I'm transferring ye, And then Louke Record says,

517
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm transferring, oh Shoul. I don't have no competition. Yeah,

518
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: I don't have no competition. Now like I don't have

519
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: no I don't have to fight with anybody. So now

520
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, now I I have no worries and I

521
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: can just play a free game. And then once that

522
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: free game came in, you know, I'm leading the team

523
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: scoring now. And I was like, I'm four years fast.

524
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: And I thought I was gonna be who's recruiting you?

525
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: Besides that, I was on uh north Ridge, I was low.

526
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: I was north it was north Ridge. I was being

527
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: recruited by north Ridge. And a guy from north Ridge

528
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: got a job at Kansas State. So Kansas State came in,

529
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, and they were like, yeah, we're gonna give

530
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: you a thousand thousand minutes as a freshman. I'm like,

531
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: ship whatever, I just you know, just let me do

532
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: what I do. And then um, the Paul Paul came

533
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: in right before they had still Q and yeah, so

534
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna go be the point guard there, blaming

535
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: Fierson too. And then Pat Kennedy, Pat Kennedy the coach

536
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: and my dad had ties from you know, Florida, so

537
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: they was you know, working on their little deal on

538
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: so so I was gonna go there. So right before

539
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: I was gonna go, uh, Pat Kennedy's mother died, so

540
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: they had to cancel the trip. And then Ludolson came

541
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: in and said, I mean he came into the house

542
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: and said, listen, I've never seen you play until I

543
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: got on the plane. You're you have the kind of

544
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: style I like, Um, if you want to come, you know,

545
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: it's whoever you know the sides first between you, um,

546
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: Kevin Gaines and Jimmy Hayward. And I was like, okay,

547
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go take a trip. And they had

548
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: like some little scrimmage there Michael Dickerson them, and I

549
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: was bawling. I was like, oh, yeah, my mom coming here,

550
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm coming here. Didn't you didn't get the pancakes from

551
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Miss alsa O? Don't no? She she making? Yeah, come on,

552
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: don't don't tell me you experience that. Yeah, be NP

553
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: and cages. What kind of bond did you build with Luke?

554
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: What's the funny? Is I hope I'm a coach like him? Um,

555
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: because you gotta remember, I'm I'm immature like I was.

556
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: Dinnis commnenced like I'm like, there was no way I

557
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: should have been. I first of all, I should have

558
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: been kicked out to school or bench. And he never

559
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: he never punished me on that basketball court, like he

560
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: never let some outside what I was doing outside affect

561
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: my playing time. You know, only way that you know,

562
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: like if I was going to get bench is because

563
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: something I didn't practice, Like if I didn't go to class.

564
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: He's like, all, yeah, you don't want to go to class.

565
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: Five miles five miles, six am under thirty minutes. All right,

566
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know, so you know

567
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 1: that's how you know that's but I looked at us

568
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: like I'm just getting in shape. But he never he never,

569
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 1: he never, like he never punished me for what I

570
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: was doing. Like it just you know, and I gotta

571
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: respect that because for the most part, any other coach, yes,

572
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: I would have been deep sitting on the bench and

573
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: he was like, you're gonna have to you know, if

574
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: you don't want to go to class, You're gonna have

575
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: to deal with that soon. Ain't got nothing to do

576
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: with me. You got to deal with that soon. You've

577
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: got an old point to you have to do with

578
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: this two thousand one. You gotts go to the n

579
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: C Double A Finals and lose a heartbreak of the duke.

580
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: Talk to us about that game, because I've heard you

581
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: and r J go back and forth on this game. Man,

582
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: he let don't leave. Man kick his ass up and

583
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: down the court. Man, it's done leave. I believe believe

584
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: what so funny is don't Leavi like I had a cold.

585
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: I had a cold. Um a you roommates group, it

586
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: was me done, Levy and Luke right now, that was

587
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: my that was my age, Luke that right game, that's

588
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: what that was my little like like when we when

589
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: we go to like the Pump campus something, that was

590
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: that was my look that was my trio. So um,

591
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: when you when you grew up with don't leave you

592
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 1: your teammate, and then you're playing in the Western name

593
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: and then you come on r J. It's you know,

594
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: first of all, he's been playing bad this whole tournament.

595
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: He shouldn't got happy to see done. On the other side,

596
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: the athletes, you don't have the man hit five threes

597
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: in the game night off, you know what I mean? Like,

598
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: come on, man, So I blame that on him. I

599
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: mean I was for listening. I was four for seventeen,

600
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna blame myself. I'm not gonna you know,

601
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: it's me against Duke at this point because do y'all

602
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: just y'all just happy to be here. But that's that's

603
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: how we talked to each other. Yeah, come on, man,

604
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: the ain't helped me out. It was like, yeah, bro,

605
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: you're you're four for four for twelve right now, I'm

606
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: going against five players. It's me against them. Who they

607
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: having to do? Who's on the dude team? Bunch of

608
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: sorry players, it's Duke, sorry players, A bunch of Duke.

609
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: You know, there's a bunch of they had young young boozer.

610
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: They had j will Um do Han, Shane Battier, a

611
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: bunch of proper talking about that, A bunch of squares,

612
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: how a bunch of proper talking about outside of that game?

613
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: How well? How good was Jason Williams before he got

614
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: in that motorcycle accident? To you see, I ask you,

615
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm biased because our first introduction was you know what

616
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean? So the finals was so from there it

617
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: was basically for him, and then it became a double

618
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: for him when he's coming into the draft. So you know,

619
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: I I get the starting spot after during my rookie season,

620
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: so I'm coming into my sophomore year as the starter. Well,

621
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: rumor hits that you know, if they get the number

622
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: two pick in the draft, they're going after Jason Williams.

623
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting here like wait, hold on, waiting to say. So,

624
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, you know with what you know with

625
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: Oldis Smith, who was you know the now he was

626
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: the player development coach. So I'm like, wait a minute,

627
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: if they drave him, he still gotta beat me, right,

628
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: And it was like he's gonna be the number two

629
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. You think they're gonna start a

630
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: second rounder over the number two pick. I said, yeah,

631
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: he gonna have to beat it's my position. He's after

632
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: he has to beat me. He said, he don't have

633
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: to do nothing. I said, oh, oh, that's how you know,

634
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: that's how you want to play. So I'm living working

635
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: on my good line. I can't wait. I can't wait

636
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: till I can't weight draft. I hope you'll drafted. Hope

637
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: we get the number two pick. We end up getting

638
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: the number three pick. So uh so we end up

639
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: getting done lady. But when we played the bulls, oh over, nah,

640
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: give him quick quick double double? He asked the is

641
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: he mad at me? Yes? Every night? Every night I'm mad.

642
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: I don't like you. But he was, you know, it

643
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: was he wasn't explosive as d Rose was, but it

644
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: was that type of that type of shiftiness, you know

645
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: what I mean, quick crossover and when he hit the

646
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: holy hit the dunk on your this and that was

647
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: the sneaky part of it because he didn't look like

648
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: he had a nice jumper time. I really liked him.

649
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: I was just I was. I was sad that you know,

650
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: obviously through that accident we didn't get a chance to

651
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: see him. But that's funny your little person. It was

652
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: the person. It was so funny that he had no

653
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: idea that I that I that I envied him because

654
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: of that, because they we was fighting for that number

655
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: two spot. So after oh one or after the championship

656
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: four for seventeen, you you feel like it's time to

657
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: take your tale to the league. It was funny. I

658
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: was the last one to choose to leave, like you know, um,

659
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: and I remember I was, I came, I came back home,

660
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, um, you know bragging. You know I got

661
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: my E S three hunting. You know, I got the

662
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: wheels on it, got three, I got E S three hunting,

663
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: got the TVs TVs on it full twelves in the back,

664
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: so you know I'm coming thumping um. And then I

665
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: see the paper and all four the starters into the

666
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: draft and then had a question mark on mine. So

667
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here like so I had I had Olsen.

668
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: He was like yeah, because he told me before the season,

669
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: he said, I don't spec you to be here after

670
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: this year. You know, he said, you know right now,

671
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: you're better than Mike Baby. That's like Mike Babe his

672
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: freshman year. He said, no, Um, you're better than Mike

673
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: bb is right now as the NBA player, So I

674
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: ain't passing then the ball none in what I mean,

675
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: you know, so you know I was leaning towards going,

676
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: but I didn't really you know, you know, if if

677
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: they would have tried to say, all, we're gonna stay

678
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: and go for it, I would have stayed, you know,

679
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: but once you know, because at that point I really

680
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: didn't you know, I wasn't playing to be an NBA player,

681
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: you know, it was just I would just I was

682
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: just trying to you know, one day I'll get there.

683
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: And then you know, once they had the four, I

684
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: was like, all right, let me go. I went through

685
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: the camp. It is what it is, so you slide

686
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: to the second round. How frustrating was that it was

687
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: it was Brian who was a Brian? It was Bryant,

688
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: it was a Brian O'Neil Celtics. Was that you remember

689
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: Jim O'Brien Jim Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's an asshole. Yeah yeah.

690
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: So they had I used to call them half ahead.

691
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: That I was talking about half ahead. So they have

692
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: the either they have the tenth and the eleventh or

693
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: the eleventh and truth pick right, So they're going after

694
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: two guards I had. I had a two day work

695
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: out there Boston, Boston had two day workout. Killed in

696
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: my first one, and then they wanted me to stay

697
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: for the second day. But I hurt my achilles and

698
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: like I previously heard it, and then I was like, man,

699
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: if I if I, if I don't heal it, I'm

700
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: gonna miss the rest of you know, I tried offer

701
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: seventeen teams. Um fun that process, that's that's that, that's

702
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: just dumb that that that has no meaning for nothing,

703
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: because it means it means nothing to me. Um. And

704
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: he put the rumor out that you know, I'm too immature.

705
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to I'm not taking this serious. Um

706
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: he's not a player. M h. And that was the

707
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: same going on. Um it once they labeled you with that. Yeah,

708
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: because I heard my my achilles. What I was supposed to,

709
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: you know, run through the wall, you know, trying out

710
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: for a team. You're half a head ass, and we

711
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: just telling about your working ethic. You think that because

712
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: you have a lot of andrews, because you work so on.

713
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: That was the reason I couldn't get back healthy. See,

714
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: I got injured from Jared Wallace crash. He crashed because

715
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: he clipped me and because I wanted to keep my

716
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: place or improved, you know what I mean. Once you start,

717
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: you know, I'm you know, every year, I'm checking off

718
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: this person. All right, Okay, we got uh, we got

719
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: Ai and okay Nash. You know you know I'm training,

720
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, to to to catch these two. So injury,

721
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: this don't mean this don't mean nothing, you know what

722
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean. So I'm still doing the same routine, you know,

723
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, working out, working out, and I never really

724
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: got it right. I never got it strong enough to

725
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: do what I was trying to do. So I kept

726
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: just tearing early second round to Golden State. What was

727
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: the state of that team like at that time? M

728
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember I was so angry. I was

729
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: so angry on draft day, oh, because when I came out,

730
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be a lottery until you go

731
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: until you go to Chicago and then everybody is lottery

732
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: and then you're like, who is where's you going to

733
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: schoolbody talked to Yeah, you gotta remember I went to

734
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: national championship. I don't know you, Joe Joe Johnson, I

735
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: don't know you. Ronnie White, who are you like? I

736
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: don't know who none of y'all are, but you all

737
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: over here talking about lottery right right, like and that

738
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: was like I didn't understand. I didn't that concept. Like

739
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: I thought I was big in my world, Like you know,

740
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: college basketball with championship, there's only one person I can

741
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: say they're better than me, now you know what I mean.

742
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: But so when you're hearing these lot of the you've

743
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: got the high school kids coming in, Like, so I

744
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: go to the second round. On my press conference, I said,

745
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: I don't I don't care about none of this. Man,

746
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: I'll be starting by the middle of the seat. Yeah,

747
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: I'll be stirred about the build of the season. Look

748
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: up all the Buckers, man, So who was like, who you?

749
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: Who's your team? Team out? So we had so we

750
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: had Mookie Baylock move uh, Larry Hughes, We have Bobby Sara,

751
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: and then we had Antoine Jamison, Uh Damn Pierre. We

752
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: had Damn Pierre, Donna Foyle, we have Mark Jackson, Big

753
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson, Philly and we had uh Danny Fortson, y'all

754
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: have some mons um Vontigo Cummings and then we had

755
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: me Jason Richardson and Trey Murphy's what was like like

756
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: early on because I know you can get just your

757
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: shot right away. When did you finally start getting your shot? When? Uh,

758
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: it was like right before the mid season. It was

759
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: Mookie baylock so we started. So we was it was

760
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: one of those teams. Is you as a rookie, you

761
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: like you thought this was the NBA, right, you know, guns, women, cars,

762
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what I've seen. And that's you know,

763
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: that's that was a lifestyle, you know what I mean.

764
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: That's so that's what I think the NBA is. So

765
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: I remember it was like eleven, like eleven twenty. Mookie

766
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: Bay like come in country, had his golf clubs like

767
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: we already probably pryingly started. He always came late, coming

768
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: in coming to the golf club. Put it talking, hey, hey,

769
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: come on out of man. I got that. I gotta

770
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: give me some more time. Man just came from the

771
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: golf course right and Dave Cowens was just like, no, no, no, no, Mookie, No,

772
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: you are a bad You are a dog gass player.

773
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: Dog gass. I'm a dog gass player. You're a dog

774
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: ass allowing me to do this going back to the

775
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: Green packed this ship up and took his shoes off. Left,

776
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: never seen sucking Mookie Baylock again after I've never seen

777
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: Mookie Baylock again, never seen him again. And human for

778
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: never seeing this motherfucker again after that stealing that back.

779
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: Nine just just just left, never seen him in traffic nothing,

780
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: Never knew what happened to Like it was just one

781
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: of those things just straight disappeared. And then from there

782
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: like that, So that was one guard gone, um and

783
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: then from there it was Larry Hughes got hurt. Our

784
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: six men didn't want to start. He wanted to, you know,

785
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: keep his on the role. So they took me off

786
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: I r and put me in and then never look back,

787
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: never looked back. How did you improve between your one

788
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: and two? Anger? You know, anger from you know, like

789
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: you know J. C. Williams coming then and um Chris Mullen,

790
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: Chris Chris, Chris Mullen, you know, teaching me how to improve,

791
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: how to get better? Um, ship Mark, Mark, Mark, you know,

792
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta really think Mark Jackson, you know,

793
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: Big Mark, because he helped me through my my my

794
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: rookie year, because dude, I was I was, I was depressed,

795
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: and I mean, you know you're sitting there and you're

796
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: seeing you know, players that you know, one on one,

797
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: you better than It's like, you know, are you getting

798
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: this shine y'all? Even give me a fair shot? You

799
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I thought, when we get hits,

800
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: the best, the best talent, even though I really wasn't

801
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: ready because when I did get a chance, I got

802
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: sucked up, you know what I mean. Um, but but practice, No,

803
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: you couldn't saw me in practice, and that somethingbody that

804
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: game was kind of sucking me. It was the other opponents.

805
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: It was a yeah, it was it was the mother

806
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: opponents that I didn't know where all that was kind

807
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: of like a dog give me when I got out there. Um,

808
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,959
Speaker 1: so you know, and he's like, don't don't worry about

809
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: this ship, rook, And he always don't worry about it. Listen,

810
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: I played twenty five games, the last twenty five games million,

811
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: he said, you know what I mean. He's like, I

812
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: played the last twenty five games, I got paid twenty

813
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: five million, don't worry about none of this ship. Just

814
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: stay focused. When they call you, be ready. So he'll

815
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: wake me up. He'll wake me up. Like when I

816
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: was the president, he'd like, Yo, we're gonna go train,

817
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: so we'll play full court one on one and half

818
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: court one on one. And he's just trying to, you know,

819
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: teach me what to look for, how to look forward,

820
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, just making me a better one on one player,

821
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: so you know, even do a team that. And we

822
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: never really was on the court together because when I started,

823
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: he was benched, you know. But he's staying in my

824
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: ear and I remember, I remember he did scare me

825
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: when I did get in the game, because you know,

826
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: Marcus Loud, you know you're coming down the courter, whoa

827
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: play like? You know, so like it kind of it

828
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: kind of shook me out. He's like, man, listen, don't

829
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,959
Speaker 1: worry about that. I just I just want the ball.

830
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean because I don't worry about the value of it.

831
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: Just just know I want I'm gonna do something with it.

832
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: I'm always I'm always so market play. Definitely shout out marks,

833
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: so you win most improved player. Uh, coming in to

834
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: the O two are excuse me? The two O three season?

835
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: How important was that to you? Knowing what your next

836
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: situation was gonna be. Um. I remember I did my

837
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: press conference and said, ship I was good last year.

838
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: I said I ain't improved, I said, I said, I

839
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: include what number is y'all going off to it? Because

840
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: I said, when I started out of average about seventeen

841
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 1: and hey, so shoot, I'm averaging eighteen six and fold,

842
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: this ain't no improved men, to be honest, But I'm

843
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: gonna take the award though, you know what I mean,

844
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: I said, y'all looking at the total number. You gotta

845
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: remember I played thirty seconds, twenty seconds that that that

846
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: brings it down to ten. But as a starter, I was,

847
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: I was legit. So I wanted to I really wanted

848
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: to stay in in in in Oakland, you know. But

849
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: then they had that rule where if you don't have

850
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: your bird rights, you know what I mean, that's only

851
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: a certain amount of money they can sign you for.

852
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: Don't think I a rule after you named after you.

853
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: It was because it was because of that, because they

854
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: walk us through that um actually just walked through your experience.

855
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: So Kicky Vnderway, that was my guy, you know from

856
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: U C. L A. So he used to train so

857
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: he knew you know that you know I was coming along.

858
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: So you know he's the generamaner for Denver. So that

859
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: was a rumor all year, Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver. That's

860
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: where I'm going. So all he has to do is

861
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: just beat them, you know. So the most taken all

862
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: for me at that time was was it forty It

863
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: was at forty nine. It was the it was the

864
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: mid level, it was forty nine. So you know, negotiations

865
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: already started. Kiki come out of one, right, So we're

866
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 1: asking for the max. What's the max for your max?

867
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: Was seven seventy nine? It was it was seven years

868
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: seventy nine. Um, what was the funny that was? You

869
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: know that that was that Kobe man was so funny.

870
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: It wasn't Kobe's. It was Kobe's max. But the it

871
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: went up a little bit. So that was like just

872
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: a regular max for me, you know, seventy nine million,

873
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: seven years. So we're going to free agency. It's lamar

874
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: Odom then me. Um, so I'm waiting for lamar Oldham

875
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: so I can see what he's he's waiting for me

876
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: because he knows whatever he gets, I'm at least ten

877
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: million dollars, you know, higher, you know what I mean?

878
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: You know, you know, So what ends up happening is

879
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: Denver tries to bluff and they signed um Miller Andre Miller.

880
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: I said, well, all right, we don't need Gilbert Will

881
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: what's sign Andre? And gave Andre fifty one and I

882
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: was like, well, you know, if you still want to

883
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: come and give you fifty two. So we're like, I mean,

884
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: you're paying Andre for what he did two years ago,

885
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: not for what he did this year. And you know,

886
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: it's two different engines, is a pure point. I'm a hybrid,

887
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, you know what you're

888
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: gonna get from him? My ceiling, we don't know what's

889
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: what's going on over here and there. So then and

890
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: then um U talk came in and I just I

891
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: didn't even want to listen to that number. It was

892
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 1: in the seventies though, but you know they just lost

893
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: John Stockton and those two games we played, I bopped him.

894
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: But as John Stockton, you know, I don't want to

895
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: follow John Stockton, especially the type guard I am. That's

896
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: a disaster, that's that's career ending. UM. I got the

897
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: Clippers Washington in Miami, left, UM I go to Washington

898
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: and um A Poland owner was like, UM, you know,

899
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: rest in peace. It was like, UM, whatever we have,

900
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: we're giving it to you. He said, you come here,

901
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: you will be the franchise of this city. We have

902
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: no face, right, they said, you know we have you know,

903
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: a couple of football players, you know, but you know

904
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: we don't have a face of this city. You know,

905
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: Jordan was the face. He's gone. If you can help

906
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: me out of this Jordan crisis, I would be indebted

907
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: to you. So as all right, he said, Um, Brian

908
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: Russell is gonna opt out of his deal to go

909
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: chase that championship with the Lakers. So if that, if

910
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: he outside of that deal, and then the salary cap

911
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: comes up, we'll have more money because at that time

912
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: they have Clippers are from We're still asking for the

913
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: max and see if we can get a little bit more.

914
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: And then with the Clippers, you know, I wanted to

915
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: be home, but I didn't want to be home. You know.

916
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: It's like I want to be home, but I don't

917
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want that pressure of friends and

918
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Um. And then Miami was like, um,

919
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: Miami was like, we're drafting. We're drafted Dwayne Wade. We

920
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: want to put him at the one, you know, so

921
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: we don't we don't want to pay a young guy

922
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: we don't really know of him. We already just we

923
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: we just have you know, we we just happened one.

924
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: So they were like, we're not gonna We're not gonna

925
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: pay that type of money. So I go back to

926
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: I go to Golden State was my last stop. I

927
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: wanted to go last. Um. I remember, I got the

928
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: warning first they're gonna make it about the team and

929
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: your friendship. And you know, I all that right, just

930
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: keep keep keep focused on what's important, all right. Cool.

931
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: So taking a jet from here to Oakland, like a

932
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: TiO was on the plane, I'm like, you know, I'm

933
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: looking at my dad like, yo, that's Tea, that's Trull.

934
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: I was like, what is he doing here? And it's yeah,

935
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like that's Teal number one, bro right. And

936
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: then my dad he's you know, telling about you know,

937
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: the city and this and this and how it's a

938
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: good family or you know. I'm feel like all right,

939
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: man too and he was like, man, I hope to

940
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: see you soon. I was, are you will right? You know,

941
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: you will pull up to the hotel. It was like

942
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: a viper Ferrari lambers, like full beautiful cars out there.

943
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, there's some ballers is here bro at

944
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: the Oak area, the President, this was somewhere else. This

945
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: was like San Jose was like I said, Jose somewhere

946
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: and like like they parked out there, just like yo,

947
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: they got some point people been down here, right, So

948
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: we go up. We started talking and it was like

949
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, you know, we go through all of and

950
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: then they were like, uh, all right. You know, with

951
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: the way the rules are, we can't beat none of

952
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: the offers you have. You know, we're capped off. But

953
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: what we can do is we can sell into a

954
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 1: one year deal, you know, four point nine, and then

955
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, and then we can have under the table deal,

956
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: which would have been seven it was seven years seventy nine.

957
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: And those four cars down on stairs. Mm hmm. So

958
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: they're still talking. I don't get what they talked about.

959
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: All I'm thinking, that's like your Monday that way. I

960
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: know my ex gonna hate because I'm pull up on

961
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: pull up on all her niggas that she was like

962
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: yeah about, yeah, she gonna hate me. Now. Yeah, they

963
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: go they go little this call and be on sunset

964
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: on Friday. This is gonna be my Friday cars Saturday.

965
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: Like I already got the cars playing now, and they're

966
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: talking and then all I see is them get up,

967
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, where y'all Where y'all going right?

968
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: And and then agents like, yeah, we're gonna you know,

969
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: Dan fagging restip piece. He was like, we're gonna talk

970
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: about the offers. And then uh I was like yeah, yeah,

971
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, uh so those four cars of mine right,

972
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: and then it's like, I told you wasn't listening as

973
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: soon as you heard them four cars is here? If

974
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: I just check the funk out? And I was like,

975
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, no, no, no no, I

976
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: want to I want to stay, Like why would I

977
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: seven nine million, nine years? Why when I stay? He

978
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: was like wait, hold hold on. And then they said

979
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: let me lay it out for you. I was all right,

980
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: laid out that. That was going nice. So they're just

981
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: writing down their numbers. I'm all, I'm thinking about the cards, right,

982
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: you gonna live? I was. I was a straight kid,

983
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: but like for whips and it was like, all right,

984
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: so look you have Washington just moved up to sixty

985
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: five for six years. That's all right, that's what's happening.

986
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: You ain't got no cars in there. Though, and then

987
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: so they do the math and he said, all right,

988
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: now look at it. I'm looking. I'm looking. He said,

989
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: look without the cars. I said, I'm looking without the cars.

990
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: One year PHO nine eight nine. Yeah. And then so

991
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: by time the money even matched up, I would have

992
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 1: been out of the Washington deal, hopefully signing the match. So,

993
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: you know, the first year on the Washington making four

994
00:53:54,400 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: million extra. So I'm sitting here like, give up calls.

995
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, with four extra million, you can buy

996
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: your own cars. He said, don't be in there. So

997
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: I was all right, man, And then you know the vibe,

998
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: I didn't even feel the vibe though. It was one

999
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: of those you got the owner in there, right, It

1000
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: was more of a vibe for me. You got the

1001
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: owner in there, and we'ver here talking about the on

1002
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: the table deal, like you really and he he pretending,

1003
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: he yeah, on the table good money. But it's on

1004
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: the table to anybody here where you can you can

1005
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: look me to make sure this ship going. So I

1006
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: was gonna sign it, was gonna have it. You know,

1007
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: I was gonna keep a copy. He was gonna keep

1008
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: a copy, right, But he can't even look me in

1009
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: my line, and I'm like, yeah, y'all got y'all go

1010
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: screw somebody. I'm good. So I bounced. What was it like,

1011
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: helping turn of into a playoff team? It was you

1012
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it was amazing. Um it was

1013
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're, you're you're going out of the

1014
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: Jordan era. You're coming in. Well, it was one of

1015
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: those things where I'm not coming I'm coming into you.

1016
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: Remember Kwami Brown's there, So he's the franchise. Yeah, he's

1017
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: He's a franchise. You know, Matt Mami just talking to

1018
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: the previous show we just had, how good a Quama was?

1019
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: Y'all killed him? Man Maverick Like that was one of

1020
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: the top number one picks around right, I'm just saying

1021
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: what Mac Matt said. This maid was one of the

1022
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: one of the number best number one picks of all time.

1023
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: He could have been, He could have he could have been.

1024
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: And this is why. Imagine being an eighteen year old

1025
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: kid getting drafted number one by your your idol, and

1026
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: your idol is Michael Jordan's. We know Michael Jordan's, we

1027
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: know Michael Jordan's personality. Imagine that personality slapped him in

1028
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: the face going towards an eight year old kid, you know,

1029
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: just you know, just bullying on him, you know. And

1030
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: you gotta remember he's around his peers. You're not his peer,

1031
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You're not his peers. These

1032
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: are his peers. So when you're making him look a

1033
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: little to his peers, he loses his confidence. So when

1034
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: I get there, he doesn't have confidence, you know what

1035
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's trying to build this this man

1036
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: child up. What I mean, man child, you're talking about

1037
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: it just a big country human, you know what I mean.

1038
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: So physically he has he's called him the show pony,

1039
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: and it loses the show horse. I mean, probably couldn't race.

1040
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: Looks look good, look good, you know what I mean.

1041
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: So in games, use like you was see like flashes

1042
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: like he's gone, but then you have a flash of trauma.

1043
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: Have a flash, you have a flash of trauma. You're like,

1044
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: and I who he could have been? He could have

1045
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: been more like an Anthony David style. You're talking about

1046
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: a seven foot guy who was probably the second fastest

1047
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: on our team, like just straight hunted. Oh he was gone,

1048
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: small hands, so he was more guard like you know

1049
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,959
Speaker 1: what I mean. So when he decided to take off.

1050
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: You know, he's gone, ball still there, you know what

1051
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: I mean. But I just I just think it was

1052
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: like what I'm saying, but like the ball was still there,

1053
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: but it was more it was more the trauma than anything.

1054
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: And it was more like even though Jordan left, he

1055
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: still needed a flash guard because once I got there,

1056
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: I don't got time to be working with you. You

1057
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I ain't got times. Just either

1058
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: you don't tea with my team. We're both in the

1059
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: same draft, you know what I mean, We're both in

1060
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: the same drafting. Right now, I make more money and

1061
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: he so technically it's my team, and you know, I

1062
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: just you know, and and then right now it's like

1063
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: between me and Stackhouse, I got I got big sack

1064
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: with me too, so it's like, you know, you know,

1065
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: it's stack scene, you know what I mean, it's stacks

1066
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: seam but on the future, you know, and stacks like nah.

1067
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: And then he like laid the rule down. He said,

1068
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we have a team meeting. He was like, looking,

1069
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: if your ass average five last year, emotion, your ass

1070
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: going to average this year is eight, you ain't gonna

1071
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: be going from five to twenty. Get that ship out

1072
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: your brain on this team. I'm sitting here like that

1073
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: stops all that ship. That stops all that ship right there.

1074
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: Ain't really got to compete no more. And then it

1075
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: was it was one of these It was one of

1076
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: those things where from there now we're just trying once

1077
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: we established who's who, from there's just building, you know

1078
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. And you know Larry Hughes, you know,

1079
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 1: because that was my biggest thing going there was Larry

1080
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: use you know, I took his position in Washington, I mean,

1081
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: in Oakland. I didn't want to bump heads and in

1082
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: in d C. And he was like, nah, I'm gonna

1083
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: play the two. Come on through, man, you can be

1084
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: the one too. So from there is just trying to

1085
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: figure out each other's game. And then this new offense

1086
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: we bumped. We just we bumped against the offense the

1087
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: first year, and then once we understood what it was

1088
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: that second year, it was nice took off. So you

1089
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: you're oh, four oh five years, twenty five point five,

1090
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: oh five oh six, about twenty nine and a half

1091
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: oh six or seven, twenty eight and a half, do

1092
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: you feel like that was when you were really no

1093
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: one can sunk with you. Yeah, definitely. I mean I remember,

1094
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, Larry was all first team defense, So I

1095
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: get to go against all first team defense every day

1096
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: in practice. So there's only one more guard that's gonna

1097
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: be matched up in that category. So if get to

1098
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: go against him every single day and perfect my skill

1099
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: around this, I don't feel a threat out there, you

1100
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's only one more you know,

1101
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: a person that's gonna be on this level. Other than that,

1102
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be two fowards in the center. You know.

1103
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: That's how I look at it. Second team and third team,

1104
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: y'all got a chance, you know what I mean. So

1105
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here again. I I egg him on all

1106
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: all day and pregnant. You know, he's quiet. You know

1107
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm egging him, aid coach, they coach. Bro can't guard me, Bro,

1108
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know, because I need

1109
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: to really get him going so I can, you know,

1110
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: see all the little tricks he's gonna cause I remember,

1111
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: he's guarding the Kobe, he's guarding, he's guarding everybody, So

1112
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: I need to see what he's gonna do so I

1113
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: know how to adjust, you know, and then you know,

1114
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: once I figured out what I can do against him.

1115
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: I was like, there's there's nobody who's gonna be able

1116
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: to stop. And I mean, if he can't sign me, no,

1117
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: I remember we went to the playoff against him. Oh

1118
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: you're done. You're done, bro, I talk, you're done, You're done.

1119
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: What I had then when you was here, I got

1120
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: some new ship with me, you know, And that's how

1121
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: we went to the playoff series because I knew he

1122
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: was gonna have to go. I got some new ship

1123
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: with me. You're about you're about to find out. I mean,

1124
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: I have thirty or four ft this series. So oh

1125
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: four oh five, O five, you made the playoffs, beat

1126
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: the Bulls in six, running the shock and d way

1127
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: tell me about talking about that Miami team. We really

1128
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: thought we could compete, we know, we really thought we

1129
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: could compete against the boys. Man, they smacked the ship

1130
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: out of us. Man. We was like some little We

1131
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: was like some little ass kids compared to them. I mean,

1132
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about eatime now, Brendon, Brendon in

1133
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: EA time, and then you got Zoe coming off the bench,

1134
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: and then you know what I mean, so you got

1135
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: Alonzo Morning coming up. That's a starter, you know before

1136
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: Shot got there, So you got another starter coming off

1137
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: the bench, and we have a backup in a third.

1138
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: We know our our Besides, once Brittain went out, you

1139
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: know everybody else is under side now compared to them too.

1140
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: And I mean so you know when you when you

1141
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: got them young de Way, I mean m hm, trouble

1142
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: and Shot could even play two games. M hmm. It

1143
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: was still a smacking us least. It was one of

1144
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: those things where it wasn't even I mean, it wasn't

1145
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: even a contest. What did you learn though, because you,

1146
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: I mean you make it. You take a lesson from

1147
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: everything we learned. We wasn't in the league. First of all,

1148
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: we learned we was not on the same playing field

1149
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: as that team. I remember I was remember read a

1150
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: sign and after we played the Bulls, we want the heat.

1151
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah we do. Game. It was we down old three

1152
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: and we down like fifteen in the four, in in

1153
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: in the uh in the fourth there's a sign you

1154
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: wanted the heat. Now y'all got burned. And I'm sitting

1155
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: there laughing like this is embarrassed it bro, we got

1156
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: swept in a second round. What was it like winning

1157
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: and competing in the playoffs for the first time, you

1158
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was. It was crazy. I

1159
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: remember I had to I had to say something in

1160
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: the paper about the experience we had in Chicago. And

1161
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta remember we have Palmie, you know,

1162
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: so writing you know, he's getting booed at home every

1163
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: time he mass soon as he missed a layup. They're

1164
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: doing the man, Yeah, they're doing him. You know what

1165
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean. It was like one of them like, damn,

1166
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: bro well, I ain't passing about them. And he'd come

1167
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: he'd be like, hey, listen, hey, And this is where

1168
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: I knew. I was like, man, he just needs to

1169
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: get a new he needs to leave. Yeah, because he

1170
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: was like, you know, he'd come to me. It's like, yo, hey,

1171
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, I know they said five down, you know

1172
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: when I get in, but let me let me get

1173
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: like a tip tipp in first. Don't come directly to me.

1174
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: That's how shaking he was. You know what I mean.

1175
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: You can boot at your own home. I mean, you

1176
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: don't even want to be home. You want to be

1177
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: on the road. You be home no more. You know

1178
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. You don't want to play the home

1179
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: game because you're getting booed the road, booing you cousin,

1180
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: you killed them your home booon because it hate you,

1181
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you know he really

1182
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: has some some some personal stuff, you know, at home game.

1183
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: So we're going in to Chicago and like you know,

1184
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: you you're watching on TV, like crowds and stuff, and

1185
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: you can feel you can feel it in your chest,

1186
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 1: the cheers and the like. You can you can feel

1187
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: like god, God, damn, the like this is. This is

1188
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: a crowd like like I never experienced nothing, you know,

1189
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, d C. There's a home base, but it's

1190
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: it's it's a transit city, what I mean, it's it's

1191
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: it's transit, you know, so everyone's not from there. Um.

1192
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: So I you know, after those straight two losses, I said, hey, listen,

1193
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: we need all y'all to boot it. We we got

1194
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: the ghost boot out of us. You know that we

1195
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: need y'all to to to cheer, cheer. We need y'all,

1196
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: We need y'all support here because what we just witnessed

1197
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: that was unity over there, and I mean they stepped

1198
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: up the hell out of the mother four straight. I'm

1199
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: gonna go on record here, Scott Skiles, uh he sucked

1200
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: off that because he benched. He benched a player that

1201
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: we really didn't have an answer for, Eddie Curry too big.

1202
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: You remember they have Eddie Curry and Tyson at the four,

1203
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: five animals. We got Antoine at the four. So the

1204
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: fact that we don't have to guard you know, Eddie Curry.

1205
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: We're good, We're good. So the only reason we escaped

1206
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: out of there because Scott Scott's benched him and didn't

1207
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: and didn't want to play him because we we couldn't.

1208
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: We we didn't have no answer for both before the

1209
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: job Scotty, because you remember they still got Noon, they

1210
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: still had Dang, they still and then you got the

1211
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: guard play of Ben Gordon Man was a killer killed

1212
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: us and Pargo killed us too. Yeah. A team, yeah

1213
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: they had. They had a tough team that you know,

1214
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: like we was up. We was up twenty with four

1215
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: minutes leapting. Fucking Pargo comes in and get fire fire

1216
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: you tie the game up, and that the shot I

1217
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: hit Pargo bring them back. The crowd left. It was

1218
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: in the parking lot of ship. They thought it was over.

1219
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: Pargo three three three boom tie game to Agent zero nickname.

1220
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: Where did that come from that was on MySpace. I wonder,

1221
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: can I find my MySpace code my myspaces to be

1222
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: had my space situation and go to state where the

1223
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: chick didn't look like she did in the picture. So

1224
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: she came to the door and I just never answered.

1225
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: And that was that was bage you got. I was backpage.

1226
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: My whole girl hadn't set it up and everything, and

1227
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: this bitch for the school, this chick was bad. I

1228
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: thought she was bad. So she came to the door

1229
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: and I looked through the peak, cold, rubbed the peak

1230
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: a little bit and just went back and sat and

1231
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: smoked from the couch, not for like five minutes, called

1232
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: my phone and everything just it wasn't for me. I

1233
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: had my back. I was calling myself the black President.

1234
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: I was I was called the Black President. And then

1235
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 1: I had all the girls and I had like top eight,

1236
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: and then it had had I put secret service, secret service.

1237
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm black President. Is my secret service. And then while

1238
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: I was in Washington after like my first year, somebody

1239
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: was like, man agent zero, you just like seek serves you.

1240
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: And I was like like that, you know, stuck with

1241
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: me having your own Adidas shoe. How exciding was that?

1242
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: You know? That's always that's always wild, especially yeah, you know,

1243
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: especially growing up and you know you're you're sneaker head

1244
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: and you're buying you know, every sneaker that comes out,

1245
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, if your favorite players. So the fact that

1246
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, Didas gave me a line and said it's

1247
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: your signature shoes, you know, that was like you know

1248
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: that that was like I made it. And I mean,

1249
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: you know the kids back home at you know, at

1250
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: my high school, theyre gonna be wearing shoes. Who was

1251
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: the Adida's team at that time? Because I used to

1252
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: take pictures of you guys. You gotta goes you Tea,

1253
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: Mack Dimmi, sim Jonkin, Yeah, who else? KG and White.

1254
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 1: I was a time I just wasn't what you guys.

1255
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: I was on the third level. She was on the

1256
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: level on the F and and and and team Mac

1257
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: wasn't hold other love man incredible. He don't get enough

1258
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: love like Bro Bro okay, KG big big big. There

1259
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: was no T Mac big like I Like I remember

1260
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: we were in photo shoots, right, and I mean you're

1261
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: talking about KG Bro, Tim Duncan Matt coming in like, hey,

1262
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: what we're doing today? What's what's the call? Time. That's all.

1263
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna be here six hours. Oh hell no, we not.

1264
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: Y'all got five flicks, five five, you got five pictures.

1265
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hear five clicks and we're out of here, now,

1266
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm I'm looking like okay, like

1267
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: like like five like and he looking around and it

1268
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 1: was like and I'm looking at him. He's hey, whatever,

1269
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: Max say, goes Bro, Okay, let's just see how one, two,

1270
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: five walk out? That was it? And I'm like, for us,

1271
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: that ain't it. That's it? Back to the jet. Him

1272
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: is like, if Max says it, it's it. We're done. Damn.

1273
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: I was like, he gotta like yeah, every I was like, man,

1274
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm only I'm only doing stuff with Mac. I'm only

1275
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,799
Speaker 1: doing stuff with Mac Bro. I'm not I'm not nobody

1276
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: else Mac. All day he shut ship down. I've never

1277
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: I've never seen I've never seen anything like it. Man,

1278
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: Like you said, well for who was there too? That's tough.

1279
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,440
Speaker 1: Like I went. I went to China with him, insane.

1280
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: I feel like a girlfriend for like a girlfriend. When

1281
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: he walked through the mall right, like to worry, they'll

1282
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: they don't pay attention to you. There's a star. You

1283
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 1: just sit back, hold your purse. That's we got off

1284
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: that plane into that that airport, and all you heard

1285
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: was Mac Mac and I've I've had my agent zero

1286
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: tours there, so I'm big. I'm I'm big doing something

1287
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: over there. Like I'm sitting here like no, they they know,

1288
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: they don't see they know me, like I get cheers,

1289
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: like I get ship, like y'all, y'all don't be here.

1290
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:41,440
Speaker 1: I did all my tours here, shut shut down. Mac

1291
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: is in front. I'm sitting there like bro, like get

1292
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: into that. You know what's a bullshit When he get in.

1293
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: He got in the rolls Roys boom boom boom convoy

1294
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting here in a tax cat and we

1295
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 1: came here together up like man, that's superstar. He got

1296
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: he had a jet for a while, fresh off ada's money.

1297
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: We had nothing to do with NBA money. That was

1298
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: all the DA's money. And take us through your free

1299
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: agency in Washington when you were going to leave you

1300
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: to the story you were telling us over there. Um

1301
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: so I you know, I I'm off two knee surgeries, right,

1302
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: so I get hurt. Oh seven didn't get to finish

1303
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: at the oh seven year came back, played eight games

1304
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: and then went down again right same same knee, and

1305
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 1: then playoffs start, and I was like, shoot, all I

1306
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: need is about two games, one good quarter and I'm

1307
01:12:55,000 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: hitting that market. Right play against Cleveland, game had twenty

1308
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: four at the half. I'll gold, I'm I'm free agent now,

1309
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: and I mean showed them I'm back. I'm back a

1310
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, I still got it. And then

1311
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, if I don't do it,

1312
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm sitting here with the real dilemma,

1313
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: like if I don't come back and I stay in

1314
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: my contract, this is this is it. I gotta opt

1315
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: out right now, so you know, because they gotta pay

1316
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: me and they gotta pay me something. Um. So that

1317
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: was that was my decision, you know, going into free agency.

1318
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: So my book I set my you know, was the

1319
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: July one free agency. So I set my agent zero

1320
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: tour starting you know, leaving July one, So July one

1321
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: to eleven, so I'm doing an all Asian you know,

1322
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 1: all Asian tour um. So you know, midnight, you know,

1323
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: midnight comes, you know, you know, some teams called a

1324
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: little bit early, you know. So I got I got

1325
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 1: win um b D was leaving the Clippers. So BED was,

1326
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, leaving Golden State going to the Clippers. So

1327
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: I get the call, uh that they're gonna offer me

1328
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: to Max. Golden State is Golden State's gonna offer me

1329
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 1: to Max? So the max at that time for me

1330
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: leaving was five year, one on one. Um, was it funny?

1331
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: This is a third party calling? This wasn't this. You

1332
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: probably knew who called ballhead, so this, you know, this

1333
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: wasn't official. There was an official so and I was like, man,

1334
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: well man, I just bought a house here. Man all that.

1335
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: It was like, oh no, we're gonna we're gonna they

1336
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:49,480
Speaker 1: get your five million dollar house and uh, you know, helicopter,

1337
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: and I mean they hit me with that young ship again.

1338
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: And I was in you know what I mean? But

1339
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let me go on, you know,

1340
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: five year one on one, you know, helicopter, helicopter house

1341
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: back in the bay. Go there, I go there, you know,

1342
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 1: chess all out confident. I remember I'm still new to

1343
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: need certainly, so I know it's gonna be some tugger

1344
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: warrior um and I have to give it to Ernie.

1345
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: Ernie Ernie. He did what he was supposed to do,

1346
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: low ball and then build from there. Um see, I

1347
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: wasn't like Larry's. They tried that with Larry, and I said,

1348
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: they couldn't do that with Larry. You know, Larry ain't

1349
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: going for that bullshit with that little ball ship. You

1350
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: either offer them what he won't or he's gonna leave.

1351
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: And that's you know, that's why Larry left. So you know,

1352
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 1: he pushed that paper over, you know, slid it over

1353
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: to Yeah, you know, this is what we think you worth.

1354
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 1: You did great. You are a guy you know, many

1355
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: years to come, you know, yeah, you know, so I

1356
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: get it. You don't look at it, you know, you

1357
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,759
Speaker 1: go we go straight for the number for all this wording.

1358
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: Oh you know, so I mean you know you know

1359
01:15:54,080 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: look yeah, yeah, you look up like eight eighties. I

1360
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: can't even say that, right, eighty six. If he's not

1361
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: eighty nine, it should be a one somewhere around. He's

1362
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be like three of these digits. You know,

1363
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 1: it's like it gotta be three digits because when I

1364
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: did my calculations, it was, you know, three. They're supposed

1365
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 1: to been like one, seventeen, one, twenty it was three digits,

1366
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm you know, eighty six. You know

1367
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: that's my mother's twenty more millionare when I was already

1368
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: getting So I'm sitting here like, yeah, um go to

1369
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 1: State offered me the max. So he looked at me.

1370
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it was five year, one on

1371
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,560
Speaker 1: one baron David just opted out, so you know, he

1372
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: sent this assistant out, you know, to go you know,

1373
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: facts check came back and gave him a little head

1374
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: nod that I hit him with the Cohen All right,

1375
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: but look, I'm out of here, you know what I mean.

1376
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: I gotta trip in the morning, so I got to

1377
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 1: get some sleep. You know, we'll we'll, we'll talk about

1378
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: this I get back, you know, like when you're coming

1379
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 1: back at eleven. I mean, no team on it, you know,

1380
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 1: like negotiate. You gotta wait till the eat eleven till

1381
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: I get back before you can do anything. So hold

1382
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: of all the money that holder, Antoine, gotta everybody gotta wait. Right,

1383
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm at the airport, right, I'm at the airport,

1384
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: and um owner called me a poland it was like,

1385
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:31,560
Speaker 1: uh yeah, so don't worry about them. You know, I

1386
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 1: can fire them if you won't. Uh, it's it's max.

1387
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: Whatever your max is, that's what the money is. And

1388
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't I don't care what it is. You're my guy.

1389
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: You did everything you said you were gonna do. You

1390
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: got me out of Jordan era. No one talks about Jordan's,

1391
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, no one's you know, you've done everything you

1392
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: said you were gonna do. They said, you know, your

1393
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: knees doesn't look. I don't care about none of that.

1394
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 1: You're gonna be the last guy I signed. I probably

1395
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 1: won't be here long enough to see contract through. So

1396
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 1: the money ain't got the money ain't gonna follow me.

1397
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: Whatever you want is yours. You do it how you see,

1398
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: so what you get. So my max was one seven,

1399
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: so I turned. I gave back sixteen million UM because

1400
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: I liked, you know, penny hearted one one one. I

1401
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: just like one one one, you know what I mean.

1402
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: So that was, you know, penny, penny penny. That's how

1403
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: I did my number one one one UM. And I

1404
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: gave you know, because Antoine was also a free agent

1405
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, offered him big money too, which they end

1406
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: up giving the Elton brand. I think it's like eighties

1407
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: six millions something at that five year eighties six, you know.

1408
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: So and so I was like, oh, I gotta save

1409
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 1: some big money for Antoine so they can sign him back.

1410
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: You know. So I left sixteen million dollars on the

1411
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: table to give the organization with a room. Jack, What

1412
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: you how much you leaving on the table? Jack? Absolutely nothing?

1413
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: Not to got that. Someone asked me now as the player,

1414
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: like yo, I want to I'll tell him no, no, no, no, no.

1415
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 1: Your job isn't to create caproo. That's their fucking job.

1416
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: This is their business. You get every dollar your work.

1417
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: You're trying to be in their situation. We're not taught that,

1418
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We're taught. You know, we're

1419
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: sacrificing for championships and this and this, and we're we're

1420
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 1: we're sacrificing for billionaires. Right, so a billionaires like man,

1421
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: I can't I supposed to get fifty million this year

1422
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: in profit? You want to sign? You want Jack to sign?

1423
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: You know that he's gonna take me down ten million profit? Nah,

1424
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: y'all figure that ship out so they may you negotiate

1425
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 1: your own you know, your own wealth so they can

1426
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: keep their profit margin. Like no, that's not my job. Like, no,

1427
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm Max. He's Max. Figure that ship out. That ain't

1428
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: got to figure it out. I'm trying to be I'm

1429
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: trying to be a big in there too. You know

1430
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 1: what I mean. You want the championship to pay for it?

1431
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So you know you've got

1432
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 1: players out here, you know, like you know, taking paid

1433
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: cuts for millionaires, taking pay cut for billionaires. So like

1434
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 1: when I tell me like I did it, I did

1435
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: it because I was Lord Antoine. You know what I mean.

1436
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: I was Lord Antoine. If it was somebody else, I

1437
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: don't know. And I mean I was like, well I

1438
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 1: need I need big fella because my my career thrives

1439
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: on his shooting ability. You can't double me if he's

1440
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: on the court. So but the sacrifice, you know that

1441
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: for a championship. No, let let them figure that out.

1442
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 1: They ain't got nothing do with you say, I wouldn't

1443
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: give a bit of bad but I wouldn't give a

1444
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: bit of bilter back to drag a bown. I'm keeping

1445
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: all that. You keep it off. Please you how good

1446
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: Karan Butler was as a teammate. I love juice, I

1447
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: love I need to get know Karan was one of

1448
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 1: those personalities where you have to when he walks in,

1449
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 1: you gotta feel his mood out. I mean you gotta,

1450
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 1: you gotta really feel his mood out. Let's see what

1451
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 1: vibes on, you know, because you know, sometimes you come

1452
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: in real serious and he about no games. Sometimes you

1453
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: come in goofy. You know, Um, I didn't see anyone them.

1454
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: What you say, mood? Yeah? What's like? Yeah? You know

1455
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: he played always played hard, you know what I mean,

1456
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 1: always always trying to get better, always trying to improve. Um,

1457
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't have we didn't have a we

1458
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: didn't have a clash, but we had that looking at

1459
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: each other because you know that's good. Though he's coming in. See,

1460
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: he wasn't coming from my spot, you know, because he

1461
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: knew he had outworked me and I was gonna sitting

1462
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 1: that Jim all day. His thing was he knows a man,

1463
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm number two. I'm not don't I

1464
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: don't need you to pass me the ball. I could

1465
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 1: do that ship myself. Your number two needs you to

1466
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: give him the ball, right, So he was like, hey,

1467
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 1: go ahead and slide that. Go ahead and slide that

1468
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: number two tag on me and he could be the

1469
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: number three option and that was you know, that was

1470
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: the battle. And you know me, you know at that time,

1471
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: my assist came from Antoine, didn't come from Karan, And

1472
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean Karen was you know, uh, he was a

1473
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: rhythm player. So you give him. He had a fucking

1474
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 1: wide open shot. Pump fake you jump, he jumped right

1475
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: after you jump, hit the shot. Any even the still

1476
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: get the three he stopped, He's still getting three. I

1477
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,560
Speaker 1: gets to know assists, so you know, I you know,

1478
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 1: I needed Antoine from my assis. Other than that ship

1479
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: had been thirty points zero assists, you know what I mean,

1480
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for Antoine. So you know my passes,

1481
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 1: you know, went to Antoine on selfishness just to get

1482
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: some assists. So he's gonna always have that little one

1483
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 1: point over over over over Karan, And that's kind of

1484
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: screwed us from being in the same category with you

1485
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: with it because he averaged nineteen point one. You Beati

1486
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 1: and Monte the only three trio to average twenty. Yeah,

1487
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 1: and because of my selfishness of you know, icing them sometimes,

1488
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: he didn't get that crazy. He didn't get to have

1489
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 1: that twenty that that was my bad on that was

1490
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: got twenty plus points, scored a lot of bucket weird.

1491
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 1: It was weird, but he us it was one of those,

1492
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, it was one of those those type of

1493
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 1: games that he didn't work out for it, like how

1494
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 1: did you? What do you do for this? Always in

1495
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: the right place for one of them, Venice beach Hooper

1496
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: should be like, damn that kind of nice. It's only

1497
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: kind of nice. And that was his game. You know.

1498
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: It's like every time I've seen Antoine workout just just

1499
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,759
Speaker 1: shooting threes. Never worked on this. It was just natural.

1500
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: It was just it's just a natural touch floater, awkward

1501
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 1: off the wrong foot. So in your prime in in

1502
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: d C, you've got a lot of memorable matchups Young

1503
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 1: Lebron Ai co j Kid to name a few. Talked

1504
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: to us what one of of those that stand out

1505
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:20,879
Speaker 1: to the most or individually? My hardest, My hardest matchup

1506
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: was Jay kidd Um because you gotta remember he's six

1507
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: four all of two twenty, you know what I mean.

1508
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: So I couldn't I couldn't bully through him, and I

1509
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 1: my speed, he neutralized it because he was just as fast,

1510
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 1: but he was quick so when I got to take off,

1511
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: he can get to that spot before I I gained.

1512
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 1: So when I played against Jay Kid, it had to

1513
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,600
Speaker 1: I had to really actually think, Um, I can't. I

1514
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: mean I I scored thirty. But it was one of

1515
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 1: those ten for twenty one type games. It was never

1516
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: I never just dominated, you know, m J Kid, um

1517
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: it was. It was he gave me a run from

1518
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: my money all time, um Ai lucky me. I never

1519
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: actually had to really guard him like that because he

1520
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: was he was sitting at the two. So for those

1521
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: years it was either uh Larry who was guarding him,

1522
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: or uh the sean I'm on his highlight tape. Us yep,

1523
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean I was on the highlight tape. But I

1524
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: was the dude that like threw my hand in there,

1525
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 1: like I was fake helping and like drop drop, you

1526
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was. It was one of

1527
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: It was one of those. It was one of those

1528
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: because for some reason, if you had on that number three, um,

1529
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: like I was in games where I'm guarding him and

1530
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 1: he just and chill mode, what's up? And he looked

1531
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: at threes on that jersey. He took fence, He took

1532
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: heat forty forty and and that that that thirty seconds

1533
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 1: if he could, you know, but that was one of

1534
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 1: the hardest work hardest playing you know, players that I

1535
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 1: went against. Steve Nash was hard too, because he did

1536
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: a hunting picking rolls and he's coming on speed. Um,

1537
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 1: Tony Parker, um, just because you know that system that

1538
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: that that system was, you know it was. It was

1539
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: one of those like I gotta go to sleep earlier

1540
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: tonight because it's you're thinking, you know, defensively, they all wait,

1541
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: they don't make mistakes. Offensively, they're gonna they're gonna get

1542
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,799
Speaker 1: the best shots. So you know, you're going against San Antonio,

1543
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 1: You're like, you're playing a perfect game. And what I mean,

1544
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's it's a perfect game. You

1545
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: don't got room for, you know, failure against them, because

1546
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 1: they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna they don't cut your

1547
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: legs off every time you do something. December, oh six,

1548
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: Staples Center, you against Code, you dropped sixteen the overtime game.

1549
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 1: Talk to us about that. Oh that was that? You know,

1550
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: that was a build up. Um Before that game, I

1551
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: was averaging like thirty three against the Lakers. Mm hm.

1552
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: You know you grew up watching them that you know that,

1553
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: you know, like that's just that's your tung. What do

1554
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: they do? That team you own? And mentally like even

1555
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 1: my rookie year I played them, I had fourteen and

1556
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 1: five minutes. It was just one of those teams that

1557
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 1: I just got up for. It's just you know, um,

1558
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 1: you know watching, you know watching, you know Kobe's training,

1559
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, um four games how he trained, um him

1560
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: watching me there every single time we played them. Three o'clock,

1561
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm near, you know, waiting for you to finish, and

1562
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:37,759
Speaker 1: you know I'm going, Um, so we already had our shooting.

1563
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember sitting there and like, man that

1564
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm giving him all the kudos. It was

1565
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: funny before the game, we're sitting there. He's going because

1566
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: it's the second time working out before the game, so

1567
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: he already worked out once. This is a second time

1568
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: working out, and I was like, man, that man just unstoppable. Man,

1569
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: Like I'm seeing his coaching hacking on him. He's still

1570
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: putting them shots up. And then you know he said it.

1571
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: He said it, so this jump ball started. Hey, I'm

1572
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: gonna shut down Gil, I'm shut down, Gil, Smush you go.

1573
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: There them two plays. I don't remember anyway, Um that

1574
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: we were supposed to call the first two players of

1575
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: the game is probably for one of the bigs. We're

1576
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: gonna go one for Flat. If he guards me, I'm

1577
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: going one for Flat. That's how we go through this

1578
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: and go one for Flat. We go, We're just gonna

1579
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,480
Speaker 1: shut this ship down right now. So that was already

1580
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: the mode of the game, you know what I mean.

1581
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: So I'm already so I'm in attack mode. So I'm

1582
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 1: in attack mode. I'm like, we get it. Smush comes.

1583
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm just going like, just okay. So when Kobe tried

1584
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: to get me, I'm already on fire. And that's you know,

1585
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 1: That's how it it was. It was just that's tough.

1586
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 1: Once you got gone, it was over. Once I got gone,

1587
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: it was it was really nothing he was gonna do, man,

1588
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 1: you know, because I mean, you know, studying a defensive player,

1589
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 1: I knew I couldn't do the same thing twice against him,

1590
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: you know. So if I hit him with a crossover,

1591
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 1: I knew I couldn't him with the same crossover. Come bright, now,

1592
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: So I always had to be you know, quick pull up.

1593
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not to play around with you. You

1594
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: know you're a great defensive I'm not playing around with

1595
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: you like I'm just gonna just get to the ams.

1596
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm just go just straight line, straight line, shoot it up.

1597
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I'm not gonna sit there and

1598
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: beat because that that just FeAs you know, a good

1599
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 1: defensive guy is gonna play to your rhythm. He's gonna

1600
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna pick that ship up. And I'm sitting here

1601
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna go quick shot three, let's go.

1602
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: That's you know, and that's that's one of them nice

1603
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: and one of them NICs. So you get injured, Uh,

1604
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 1: you miss games due to injury. Um, in the midst

1605
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 1: of that, the gun situation happens. Uh walk us through

1606
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: that because that was just crazy. You come back and

1607
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: then you kind of make fun of the situation with

1608
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 1: the intro and he gets messy. Talk to us about

1609
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 1: the whole situation. You guys understand it better because you've

1610
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: you've played your teammates, you've you know, y'all, y'all have

1611
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:57,839
Speaker 1: had them them them heated discussions. Right, So I'll rewind

1612
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 1: you know, this is one of my rookies, so on

1613
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 1: the on on on road trips. You know, I'll tell them, hey, listen,

1614
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 1: if y'all need food, you know, you got a little

1615
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 1: girl over y'all trying to impress. Just order the room

1616
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: service on my on mine, I give it because I didn't.

1617
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 1: I wasn't on the roomless. So you know, he'd call

1618
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: me like, yo, a room you in. He'd come up,

1619
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 1: we'll eat, you know before he goes out or whatever.

1620
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 1: Or he had just asked me the room so he

1621
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 1: could order his room you know, room service whatever, and

1622
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 1: then charge it to my room. So you know, so

1623
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: that was my guy. You know, we used to gamble,

1624
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: do it all this, so it didn't have nothing to

1625
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: do with us. You know, you got the checks and

1626
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 1: balances of a team, you know what I mean. So

1627
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 1: it was like, Yo, don't talk to your teammate like that,

1628
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:41,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That was mine, you know.

1629
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: But he's frustrated losing money, you know, frustrating. He's gonna

1630
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna say whatever you're gonna say, you know.

1631
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 1: So my thing was, yo, just you know, it's don't

1632
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 1: talk to your team like this. You know what, man,

1633
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: if all that he's coming at me, you know what

1634
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 1: I mean. So now you come to me, I'm gonna poke. Yeah, yeah,

1635
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,719
Speaker 1: you know, And that's that's all I kept doing, just poking, poking, poking,

1636
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: and just I ain't mean you know, you know you

1637
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 1: said you're gonna do something. I want to see you

1638
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: do it, you know. I mean, so no different than

1639
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 1: you know what me and young me and Nick young

1640
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 1: Do you know if NICKI younger says, you know, I'm

1641
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: gonna shot the shoot at you, you know, because I'm

1642
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: working with his kid, you know what I mean, I'm like,

1643
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 1: let me see it, U Brena good. I want to

1644
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 1: see you do it, you know. And that's all it was.

1645
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't like we was really beefing. I just you know,

1646
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm pulling. I'm calling this bluff to you. CA call

1647
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 1: your bluff, you know what I mean. But when someone's

1648
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: when when the outside, here's guns in the locker room,

1649
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it no, it wasn't. It wasn't. It

1650
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: wasn't actually like that. It was it was like that,

1651
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like that. It was like that, but

1652
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't like how it sees. It was

1653
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: more he called my bluff. I wanted to see if

1654
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:53,600
Speaker 1: the motherucker's gonna do huh. So what happened? This is

1655
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:55,679
Speaker 1: the funny part. I put the ship on the chairs

1656
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: and said, oh, pick one. You know what I mean.

1657
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: It was foe. It was some utiful. It was golden.

1658
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, gold the Smith and Western five.

1659
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: He couldn't shoot them ships run Smith and weston five

1660
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: five Huntred, you know the big you know what I mean,

1661
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 1: I might pick one because if I'm giving you this,

1662
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: imagine what I got at the crib. If this is

1663
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: what I'm giving you, imagine what I got at the crib.

1664
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: And then and then from there it was like it

1665
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 1: was like, man, I don't even I don't. I don't

1666
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: need none of this and threw it. But it was

1667
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: it was there was no bullets in it. He threw it.

1668
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 1: And that's what scared everybody because he threw a gun

1669
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 1: flying across the table. You know, um trainers, oh my god,

1670
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: they got guns on locker room. And then and then

1671
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 1: from there we went straight to the JACUZI was like, man,

1672
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 1: right we were, that's what. Straight to the jacuzi and um,

1673
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, getting warm before the game, I mean before

1674
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 1: practice and he was like, man, you played too much.

1675
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 1: I was like, no, bro, you got an anger management problem. Bro,

1676
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: I said, you oregon over eleven hundred dollars to see

1677
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 1: you eleven hundred dollars you over here yelling at you.

1678
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: I said, you just you have anger management problem. Just

1679
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: let that ship go, because like, no, man, they justn't

1680
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 1: gonn be beating out of my money like that. I see,

1681
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: that's your problem. That's your problem. And we're sitting there done.

1682
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: You know, we're done. We go to practice and then

1683
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: from there, you know, team find out, you know, and

1684
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 1: we I thought the ship was over. I thought she

1685
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,600
Speaker 1: was over. I mean they asked me like you had

1686
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: guns in locker room like this. This you gotta remember

1687
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,640
Speaker 1: our locker room. We're in the locker room sometimes more

1688
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,600
Speaker 1: than we are at home. That's this ain't no, This

1689
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 1: ain't no. Uh, this ain't no regular job. I gotta

1690
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:33,640
Speaker 1: fucking coming this motherfucker anytime I want, Like I'm in

1691
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 1: here more than the security guards. Right like yo, I

1692
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 1: right now you got you can. You're gonna find Jewey

1693
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 1: and them. You're gonna find money and the money back

1694
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: full of money in them lockers. Because that that's that's

1695
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,560
Speaker 1: basically safer than our house because when we go on

1696
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: the road ship we hit that, they can't they can't

1697
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 1: bring it to the gym. We got two the far

1698
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 1: so that's like our home. So what I leave there

1699
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 1: any job of find me for because you know, this

1700
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: is this is safe. This is a safe having this guns,

1701
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 1: locker of rings, like you got every extra phone, ship,

1702
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, cons, you know whatever, you know, all in

1703
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 1: the locker room. So um So when it was like, yeah,

1704
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 1: you you have guns, I was like, yeah, I didn't

1705
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,719
Speaker 1: want them. I said, I just had, you know, another child.

1706
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to get rid of the ship. So

1707
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, you can't bring you know,

1708
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 1: guns into the locker room since when you know, I

1709
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 1: mean that was a lot of people people, that's Peter.

1710
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: I mean guns have been in the locker room. That's

1711
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: one thing. I'm like, uh, since when we hadn't had

1712
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 1: paintball shoot outs to his mother be guns shoot outs

1713
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 1: to this. I had to negotiate, like I remember, you know,

1714
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 1: like like a player, like a player. We we got

1715
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 1: one of them team meetings and nigger one with my ass,

1716
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,560
Speaker 1: I got the heat on me just a game. I

1717
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: got to back up, back up, back up. You ain't

1718
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: just gonna be man handling to me and this motherfucker

1719
01:34:56,160 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: to day, you know what I mean? Back up there

1720
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 1: with you, you just gonna be beat up. I gotta

1721
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 1: we gotta get the bar bro, you know what I mean.

1722
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 1: So you know, like to me, like since when all right?

1723
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: That will? They're gone whatever? You know, So it's over,

1724
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's over. But but they

1725
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 1: run that course and it's it's it's good we're browing

1726
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 1: the guns. Um called them, and that that was the

1727
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 1: story that went out. I didn't care at first, because

1728
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't care what the media say. What are you

1729
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: gonna do? I didn't. I didn't. I didn't when I

1730
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 1: didn't touch no gun. I wasn't near no gun. The

1731
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 1: only thing I said was, Yo, those are my guns.

1732
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 1: And I put them there, and no one's seen me

1733
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 1: put them there. I mean, sure, I'm the first person

1734
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 1: he hit six in the morning. Nobody see me do nothing,

1735
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: you know. But what happened was it was getting so big.

1736
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 1: I was like, and they're gonna they're gonna attack young boy.

1737
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 1: So that's when I was like, yo, I'll just take

1738
01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: the blame for a fucking I'll take the blame for it,

1739
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'll take the hit. You know.

1740
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 1: You you save yourself, you know, and that's that's that's

1741
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 1: how we did it, you know. So that's when he

1742
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 1: was like you, I'm scared for my life. You know.

1743
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 1: They do what you gotta do, you know what I mean.

1744
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold a grudge because one I shouldn't

1745
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 1: have put you in that situation anyway, you know what

1746
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 1: I mean, because at the end of the day, when

1747
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, we are still teammates and brothers.

1748
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 1: This is you know what I mean. It just got

1749
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 1: out of hand, and you know that was your rookie. Yeah,

1750
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 1: it just got out of hand, you know, and you

1751
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 1: can't we can't really do nothing, you know about it

1752
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 1: once somebody else you know, you know checks in on it,

1753
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, but we know what it is. So you know,

1754
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 1: I'll take the blame and whatever that comes with mhm.

1755
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: And then I remember the one thing that did you

1756
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 1: get in trouble with you you got suspend it from that.

1757
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 1: You got suspend it from I don't suspend it, but

1758
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 1: that was the thing they couldn't suspend me for I

1759
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: done did all the research. I don't did all the research,

1760
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 1: so you couldn't suspend me. Like the most was you

1761
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:58,679
Speaker 1: got seven games, right, seven? Y yep, yep, you got seven.

1762
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 1: So I was like uh. And then Telefare got three

1763
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 1: um and he got he was caught twice and I

1764
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 1: actually shot mine and got yeah, And I was like, well,

1765
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: I said the most y'all can give me for unloaded

1766
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 1: in the locker room. No one's seen that one game.

1767
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 1: I said, that's all I'm excepted. One game. That's all

1768
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm excepted is one game. If not, I don't know

1769
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 1: nothing about no guns. I don't know who bring him

1770
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 1: guns there. Y'all got some tape, y'all got some some fingerprints.

1771
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 1: I don't know who broke him. One game. I give

1772
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 1: you one game. That was my one game. So they

1773
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: decided after I did that, I shouldn't have did it, though,

1774
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,600
Speaker 1: because you know, I basically gave him my defense. And

1775
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: then it was like, all right, detriment with the team.

1776
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:52,640
Speaker 1: You're not mentally stable. After I did this, it's like,

1777
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 1: you're not mentally stable to be on the court. Detriment

1778
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 1: of the team. Boy, they got that detriment for the

1779
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 1: games and and this is damn This was the part

1780
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 1: that really liked because I'm like, I'm not I'm not

1781
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 1: taking the fifty craziest, I'm not taking fifty games. I'm

1782
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: not taking fifty games. I said, I'm not taking fifty games.

1783
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: He was like, well, well I'm gonna taking I'm gonna

1784
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 1: go after the rest of your contract if you I

1785
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 1: just lost my Adidas deal for you know, taking a

1786
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 1: felony case fifty games, and you're gonna go after that.

1787
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm good fifty that's right, man, I'm gonna take this fifty.

1788
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 1: Then this ship that I at that point, I'm not

1789
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna you know, this is the same guy who put

1790
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:45,560
Speaker 1: me in the All Star Game. You know, I'm not

1791
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:47,719
Speaker 1: gonna go against the guy who can who can actually

1792
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 1: make that ship happen for real. And I mean, so

1793
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: I took that fifty. Shut the funk up. He said,

1794
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 1: all right, man, I see all next year then, you know,

1795
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:56,839
Speaker 1: you know, and that's that's why I didn't get suspended

1796
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:58,680
Speaker 1: for the guns. You know, I took that fifty on

1797
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 1: detriment to the team. You know, let my name get

1798
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 1: out of the paper, let it die down, because I

1799
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna let it die down because you're gonna come

1800
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 1: at me. I'm gonna keep coming the other hood. I

1801
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: see you around and say your uncle guild to my kids. Obviously,

1802
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:14,560
Speaker 1: people don't know we have sisters that are related, you know,

1803
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 1: related that we have kids for. But how important are

1804
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: the kids? I see all your kids with you all

1805
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 1: the time now into sports. Talked about fatherhood, you know,

1806
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 1: it's it's it's different because the fatherhood that we we

1807
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 1: are while we're playing, it's a lot different. It's a

1808
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 1: lot different than when we're done. You know, because when

1809
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 1: we're playing, we can go we can go weeks without

1810
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 1: actually having contact with the kids like that because we're traveling.

1811
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 1: Because we're traveling, you know, our sleep pattern versus their school.

1812
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 1: You know. So we we at the gym and you

1813
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 1: see us kissing the baby and doing it. That's the

1814
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 1: That's the first time I've seen that little motherfucker. I

1815
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 1: thought he was selling diapers, to be honest, that was

1816
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 1: was walking, you know what I mean. But that's how

1817
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:03,600
Speaker 1: it is. It. Yeah, we lived together, but you know,

1818
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 1: because of the schedules were just you know, I'm I'm

1819
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here focus getting you know, I'm still prepared.

1820
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 1: So once it was done, once I was planning, you

1821
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 1: you know you're watching You're watching you what I mean,

1822
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 1: You're watching you, your personality and all of it. And

1823
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 1: I remember I was like, man, you know, this is

1824
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 1: what I want to do. I just want to. I

1825
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:26,639
Speaker 1: want to. I want to. I want to be a father.

1826
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 1: What I mean. Like I was a basketball player, I

1827
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 1: wasn't a father, and I was a donor at that point.

1828
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 1: They lived with me, but I can say I wasn't

1829
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 1: really Yeah, I didn't know birthdays and ship like that.

1830
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 1: Who birthday? Which which which one? Oh? You your three?

1831
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 1: Good jaw roll big three? Bro? That was That was

1832
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 1: when I was done. It was like, you know, I'm

1833
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 1: locking in, you know. And then when when the breakup happens, like, no,

1834
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 1: you're not gonna push me back as an athlete, nob,

1835
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:00,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight to be a father now, you know

1836
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:02,599
Speaker 1: what I mean. My dad I was raised by my dad,

1837
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:05,560
Speaker 1: so that's all I know. You know, he raised me

1838
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 1: and I'm ye what I mean, And if we have

1839
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: to go to blows for it, that's what we're gonna do.

1840
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: But you know, when it's all, when it's all said

1841
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 1: and done, they know I'm fault to be in their life.

1842
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:18,639
Speaker 1: I hear your court record is pretty impressive. The number,

1843
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 1: whether you know what, whether that ship you know what

1844
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean, go ahead, slicing dies. I don't get if

1845
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 1: if it's if I here you go and say, Yanna,

1846
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 1: can I go to the bathroom? They deny you. I'm asking, yeah, Yanna,

1847
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: you know you know I'm having a problem right here,

1848
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 1: can I go to bathroom? And she said yes. I

1849
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 1: want to give him you all win for anything. I

1850
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 1: don't care, just to show you I got this ship

1851
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 1: on locked. But it seems like everything is, you know,

1852
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 1: at peace with the kids, and I think that's what's

1853
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: the most important. Um, I mean, how enjoyable is it that,

1854
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 1: like you said, we're moving so much while we play

1855
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:57,680
Speaker 1: and now you sit back and your kids are good

1856
01:41:57,720 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 1: at it too, So how how how how important is

1857
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,920
Speaker 1: that to see them exceeding in something you exceeded in

1858
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 1: and just kind of being there for the moment. You know,

1859
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's just it's just it's different. It's um,

1860
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 1: because of the breakup and how it went, I had

1861
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:20,600
Speaker 1: to take a different approach. Um. You know, it was

1862
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 1: one of those is I need the kids to see

1863
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 1: my personality, you know what I mean. I want them

1864
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 1: to judge me for you know what they see. You know,

1865
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 1: so you know, I mean, I'm a big kid, you

1866
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Me and my son, Me and

1867
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:36,640
Speaker 1: my son argued like we teammates. We don't like you know.

1868
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 1: And and some remembers a parent was watching us play

1869
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 1: and watching us go at it, and I was like, yo,

1870
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 1: you let him talk to you like that. I was like,

1871
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: that's I said. I can't use parent trump card. That's

1872
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 1: how you lose your child, you know. You like, at

1873
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:56,679
Speaker 1: this moment, we're two athletes, one older. You know, we're battling,

1874
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 1: you know whatever. Whatever he got to say, whatever, that's

1875
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 1: what we're doing. I'm gonna use my parent trump card

1876
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 1: and say, Yo, yo, you can. I said, No, that's

1877
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 1: how you That's how you stopped growth, That's how you

1878
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: stopped communication, you know what I mean. So I had

1879
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,640
Speaker 1: to take a you know, a different approach on you

1880
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 1: know how I gotta you know, get there and parent

1881
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 1: and watch them grow, you know, to get their respect.

1882
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta get the respect you gotta you

1883
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 1: gotta always keep that that that line of communication open,

1884
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, you know you can't. You know, you can't

1885
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 1: sit there and say I'm the parent. You're gonna listen

1886
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 1: to me. Now. It don't work like it. Don't work

1887
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 1: like it. Don't work like that, even though that's how

1888
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 1: we was raised, were reraised. Don't don't lee, just don't

1889
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 1: talk back, don't talk back, don't challenge. You know, it's like, no,

1890
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 1: hold on the meat with what you got to say?

1891
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 1: You don't like my cooking? Why because the ship just sucks?

1892
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 1: Got you gonna eat this? Like? Like, what's so funny

1893
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: is my dad would have never I go like four

1894
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 1: different restaurant for dinner. Oh, you let them kick what

1895
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 1: they want because they are you the whole time. Yeah,

1896
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 1: it's I go and do what I say. No, No,

1897
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to eat. Gotta attitude like you know,

1898
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 1: I ain't got time because your mama thinks she won.

1899
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 1: No you want you want this? Let go, I'm going

1900
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 1: all folding you. Goddamn it. I'm gonna have one up

1901
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:24,560
Speaker 1: on something. God, Timmi. There was a story circulating with

1902
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:27,600
Speaker 1: what the conversation you had about Kobe and kind of

1903
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 1: about you giving back in the basketball share that with us. Yeah,

1904
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: it was it was. It was. It was crazy because

1905
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 1: um we we you were in the same tournaments, you

1906
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 1: know what, what with your with your group. Because I

1907
01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 1: remember I was coming in. It was like, oh, Matt

1908
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 1: Barns over there too, and then I was like, that's like, yeah,

1909
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 1: Kobe's uh, Kobe's over there. For what what I means,

1910
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 1: like for what you know, that's how he coaches girl,

1911
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 1: coaches daughter really all right, go over there and he's

1912
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 1: sitting on the bench coaching like he's really really really

1913
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 1: taking serious. After six days a week, they were in

1914
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 1: the Try and Go and I'm like, I'm watching you

1915
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 1: watching and see like you know, if you're just sitting

1916
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:15,679
Speaker 1: there because you don't want to sit in the crowd

1917
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 1: making this up talking to the girl like like oh shout,

1918
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 1: he's really coaching, right, And then you know, catch him

1919
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 1: again at the Mamba and he's like, Yo, we played

1920
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 1: against your daughter. You know, uh, you know, I want

1921
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 1: to you know, try out all right, we're practice that

1922
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 1: Orange County, Yeah, like six days and I gotta get

1923
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 1: it from here there six days a week and if

1924
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 1: she doesn't practice, she had to come off the bench

1925
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 1: to that team. I said, Now I gotta deal with

1926
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 1: this this, this attitude the whole ride there and back

1927
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,640
Speaker 1: because she ain't starting. Uh well, we'll talk about it.

1928
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 1: Then he was like, man, he should you should be

1929
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 1: in here coaching, Like what are you doing? I was like, man,

1930
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm just being a parent, you know, trying to figure

1931
01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 1: this out, you know what I mean. It's like, coach,

1932
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 1: don't let your brain go the wat I mean, you know,

1933
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 1: just you know, give back. Nah. These parents, they everybody

1934
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 1: think they child is good. He said, it looks like

1935
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 1: I listened to them parents. And I was like, damn, tune.

1936
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 1: I think about it right a year ago, but you know,

1937
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 1: it goes by and he mentions it. M again, Yo,

1938
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna coach, you know, I'm I'm gonna said, I'm

1939
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 1: thinking about it. The kids are in Oakland right, it's

1940
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 1: the Oakland Tournament, and knee has killed the knee. My

1941
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 1: knee is killing me. I'm like I'm tossing, just tossing

1942
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 1: and turning toom doom doom. And I was like, it's

1943
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 1: like six o'clock, so I'm trying to wait, like all right,

1944
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 1: six o'clock seven, easy up. Yeah. So I called a coach.

1945
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, man, I think I'm I'm

1946
01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I'm a junior coach of staff, you know,

1947
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 1: I want to coach. It's like, oh man, so we

1948
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 1: we're going we're going through um, we're going through the roster,

1949
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 1: like what what what? What players I want on the

1950
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 1: team where you know he you know, it's at that time,

1951
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 1: it was it was the it was twelve of you,

1952
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 1: but I was trying to put them in fourteen you right,

1953
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here like trying to all right, I'll

1954
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 1: take that player, that player, that player. Um. And then

1955
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, hit me up and I said, yo,

1956
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 1: let me know how they you know, finished the game.

1957
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 1: So I'm going to couch. Got a text and it

1958
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 1: was like, uh, you know Kobe Kobe dot M all right.

1959
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 1: And then I was like thirty, like tim is a

1960
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 1: Kobe who as Kobe Bryant the funk out. I said,

1961
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 1: you don't play with don't play with stuff like that

1962
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 1: funk out of him, bro. And then you know, and

1963
01:47:54,160 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 1: then I'm like, why would he just say something like that?

1964
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm playing the video of why would

1965
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: he say that? That was go on the internet. And

1966
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 1: then I'm just sitting here like Calabasas, and like, I'm

1967
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 1: looking at Calabasas. Non in Calabasas. You don't even live

1968
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 1: in Calabasas. Why it be in Calabasas. Oh tournament they

1969
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 1: play at nine, they play at nine o'clock. So I'm

1970
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sitting here like, oh, ship, we hold

1971
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 1: on and I'm not. I I posted, and I eraced

1972
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 1: and I posted. I said like, I think his daughter

1973
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 1: is on that plane because they have a game at

1974
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 1: nine o'clock, so she would be with him. And then

1975
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 1: everybody's don't put that negativity all like that, and then

1976
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:54,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, shoot, you're right, and then he

1977
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 1: raised it and I took that ship off, and I'm

1978
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 1: sitting there and thinking like but wait, hold on ye

1979
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:03,560
Speaker 1: and I had to call like yo, they have a

1980
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 1: game at nine, So I'm like, oh, ship, one of

1981
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 1: the girls or all of the gross is that was

1982
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 1: on the plane was you know, the kids. And then

1983
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 1: like thirty minutes later it came out and I'm like,

1984
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 1: what the what the funk just happened? Like what like

1985
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 1: what happened? Because the day I say I'm gonna do

1986
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:24,560
Speaker 1: this coaching thing that he talked to you into for

1987
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:27,800
Speaker 1: us two years and it was that and that was

1988
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 1: the thing that was eating me up, like how why

1989
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 1: how why? And it even got deeper than that. So

1990
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:41,600
Speaker 1: this is like three weeks is past and I'm we

1991
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 1: just had to play date Alanni so Alani as a

1992
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:48,720
Speaker 1: play date. Um, so I picked picked the boy up

1993
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 1: and driving him and he was like, hey, um you

1994
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 1: know that's that's you know, this is where you know,

1995
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 1: we're going back to the work Kobe, you know, Kobe

1996
01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 1: plane crash. I was like, for really, it was like

1997
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 1: right here. He's like, no, it's not it's not over here.

1998
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:06,600
Speaker 1: It's across the other freeway. He's like, I have it

1999
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:10,280
Speaker 1: peemed mm hm. So I said what I thought it

2000
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 1: was right here. He's like, no, it's it's over there.

2001
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 1: He's it's like, it's in front of the school. Find

2002
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 1: out that the mountain you remember the house on the hill,

2003
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 1: the moor way at the top, that was the right

2004
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 1: in front of that behind it that technically, yes, from front,

2005
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 1: that was the mountain that he was hitting to climb over.

2006
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 1: H And I'm sitting here like like so that hurt,

2007
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 1: Like wait a minute, hold on the mountain that I

2008
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:42,639
Speaker 1: used to used to have this house up on the hill,

2009
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 1: bro that you could see fucking Texas there, but when

2010
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 1: it got foggy, I couldn't see on the front door,

2011
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 1: you know. So the fact that he was trying to

2012
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 1: climb that there was no way. So basically hits the

2013
01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 1: He's climbing this mountain and fall into the lady who

2014
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:03,360
Speaker 1: owns the other half of the mountain, and I'm sitting

2015
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 1: here like, yo, how why you know? It was too

2016
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 1: much connection. It was like, yo, I really gotta you know,

2017
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 1: focus and do this because there's there's something here. I

2018
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:16,600
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but something's telling me to

2019
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 1: do it in honor of them. That's spoken man. That's uh,

2020
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 1: your podcast, No chill, Gil, you kind of found your lane.

2021
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 1: What got you into that accident? I ain't gonna lie.

2022
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 1: It was like it was when somebody was, you know,

2023
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 1: telling me, you know, the podcast, and you probably on

2024
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:38,840
Speaker 1: your first one. You probably like, man, I don't know

2025
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:42,600
Speaker 1: if that win as well as I I think, you know, like,

2026
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, so I had the first two. I was

2027
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 1: like I just scratched that. You know, they posted them anyway,

2028
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, but it was just to do something, you know,

2029
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 1: And then once people started, you know, like like, yo,

2030
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 1: we like what you're saying. You know, I started taking it,

2031
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, more seriously. But it was one of those

2032
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 1: things where I was just doing it just for ships

2033
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 1: and giggles, you know, just to see what it was about.

2034
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 1: Didn't Yeah, it didn't really you know, take it serious.

2035
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 1: Didn't even think I was in the podcast. It was

2036
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: just like, all right, let me see what it is.

2037
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 1: All right, all right, that's cool, and that's one of

2038
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 1: the better ones out. Yeah, I think, you know, just

2039
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: being ex hoopers there there's no such things as a

2040
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 1: bad one, you know what I mean, because we're giving

2041
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 1: you real life experiences. You know, we're not some stat

2042
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 1: chasing you know, movecles were just gonna say something just

2043
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 1: to get your attention. You know, we're gonna give you stories.

2044
01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:39,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you life lessons. I remember, we made it.

2045
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:42,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna have you know, no matter how big or

2046
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 1: shorter career was, we have one to tell you know

2047
01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I'm giving you. I'm giving you

2048
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 1: a voice that you didn't hear when I was playing.

2049
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean, when I'm when we're playing, I'm I'm memorizing

2050
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 1: when I'm gonna get both teams lay hard. Yeah, you know,

2051
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 1: if I had a bad game but we won a

2052
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 1: great team win. You know, it's it's we're not we're

2053
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 1: not letting you. We're not letting you in because we

2054
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 1: don't know your angle. I don't know your angle. You're

2055
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:15,479
Speaker 1: trying to Yeah, you're trying to push your wedge through us.

2056
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 1: Like I heard you say, didn't pass so they got there.

2057
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 1: I heard it, you know what I mean. And you

2058
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 1: were right. I'm not passing on the ball, but I

2059
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 1: heard it, you know what I mean. But it was

2060
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 1: if that's why I like, you can interview somebody and like, yo,

2061
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 1: I never heard that story before. You was never gonna

2062
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 1: get it. Your reporter, your reporter, god, your you're trying

2063
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 1: to find some angle. Like we're athletes. We're having conversations.

2064
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 1: We're not in it for the wrong reason. And and

2065
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 1: that's and that's you know, that's where you know what

2066
01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 1: we're doing becomes like you know what I mean? Like

2067
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 1: for you guys, I can tell you right now, I

2068
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 1: argue with my team every day. I said, you see

2069
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 1: what they posted five times today? They got a team

2070
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:03,439
Speaker 1: over there. You see how you see the pictures that

2071
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 1: say you see they steal shots that steal shots look

2072
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:09,599
Speaker 1: better than our videos. What are we doing? I said,

2073
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 1: you know what, if you don't get this ship together,

2074
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm done. Oh I do that ship twice a week. Bro,

2075
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 1: You're the reason I went to kids. Then I said

2076
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 1: to mother fuckers, they got a list. Everybody everybody a list, bro,

2077
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 1: We got seas indeeds, Bro, nobody want to hit this

2078
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 1: ship from these players like they got they got cold,

2079
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 1: they got all a's. Man. I was like, man, look

2080
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 1: if you can't get a list, I'm gonna talk to

2081
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: the kids. Bro, we can go to kid route and

2082
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 1: that's good. I ain't gotta They can keep that. They

2083
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,800
Speaker 1: can keep, they keep the bros got them, can't. We

2084
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 1: can't compete with them, mockers just behind. That's why I

2085
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 1: went to the kids. I could compete. That's the hell

2086
01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 1: of the lane though, because they got Kobe, they got

2087
01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 1: who the funk got Kobe A? They're doing all that, No, brother,

2088
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 1: I got Chris Duhan coming ready. That was a hell

2089
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 1: of a thing to t happen for them, for them

2090
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 1: high school kids, because that's giving them another lane, Like

2091
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:13,440
Speaker 1: they don't get a chance to say, especially with somebody

2092
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: like you. But they don't get a chance to talk

2093
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 1: about like stuff that they want to get off. They

2094
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 1: chant this early. Yeah, normally you gotta wait to you

2095
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:21,960
Speaker 1: in college or you know what I'm saying, you're in

2096
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 1: the college. We are your approb But now they getting

2097
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:25,960
Speaker 1: interviewers and be able to tell they like their stories early.

2098
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 1: Imagine imagine being a boxer, right and Mayweather? Is that

2099
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 1: the standard? He actually giving you the information to get there.

2100
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 1: That's if you don't make it on you. But that's

2101
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 1: that was the problem until we got into this game

2102
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 1: of podcasting. There was no information. We had to figure

2103
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 1: it out like we have figured out like everyone else.

2104
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 1: No one came back and said no, no, no, you

2105
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 1: can't do that. Do it this way, do it that way.

2106
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 1: Because somebody was like, Yo, why would a team want

2107
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:12,920
Speaker 1: you on the team and you're bringing guns to the

2108
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 1: locker room. Because I know not to do it. I've

2109
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:20,800
Speaker 1: experienced it, I've seen the outcome of it. I fell

2110
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 1: into the hole, got out of the hole. I know

2111
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 1: how to stop the next person doing it. You want

2112
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 1: someone who's been there, done that to teach the next person.

2113
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 1: I like, how am I gonna learn to be a

2114
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 1: score from a defensive player? Impossible. How how do I

2115
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 1: supposed to like learn how to be a professional star

2116
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 1: or do this? And everybody around me has never been

2117
01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: there before, like how to like you can? I'm capped

2118
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 1: off and I and I said, that's why some of

2119
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: your organizations never go forward, because you guys think you're small,

2120
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:05,160
Speaker 1: harder than what you really are. You're not that fucking smart.

2121
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 1: You want to pretend it's smart. But I'm not like

2122
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,920
Speaker 1: like Kawhi Leonard Kaui. But never if I'm if I'm

2123
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 1: owning and I'm the general manager of Toronto, he ain't leaving.

2124
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 1: I can offer him something that no one's even thinking about.

2125
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 1: You got friends, hunt, They probably can't get here, you

2126
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 1: know where you live. They probably gotta child support issues.

2127
01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 1: You know, they probably can't get passport. I'll do that.

2128
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 1: The fund is that ten thousand dollars, you know what

2129
01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean. It's not like it's gonna be millions and friends,

2130
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 1: you know ten. Let me gonna head clean that up

2131
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 1: for you. Hey, I can give y'all jet jet jet flights.

2132
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 1: Y'all can come over here, fly your mama can fly

2133
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 1: out here to get him in to put him in

2134
01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 1: the penhouse. You know what, I mean, get them passports

2135
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 1: and pennies on the dollars to someone you're gonna pay

2136
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 1: millions to that keeps him in Toronto. But even like now,

2137
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 1: we don't we don't need to do all that because

2138
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 1: you're thinking two hundred millions gonna save nah once once

2139
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 1: the person get a bag. They ain't really thinking about that,

2140
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like little things

2141
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:09,200
Speaker 1: that you guys are so out of touch with. You

2142
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 1: guys don't and because you don't have anybody in touch

2143
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:15,880
Speaker 1: to to to keep you here, because think about it,

2144
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 1: we've been players most of the time. When we're upset,

2145
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 1: it ain't over nothing big, be some little dumption, there's

2146
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:26,320
Speaker 1: some little ship you know, you've done tapped into our ego.

2147
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 1: We were gonna flex on YouTube and and and I

2148
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:32,400
Speaker 1: think that's the missing link, is like you don't have

2149
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 1: players coming back helping helping build like allow it. It's

2150
01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:39,800
Speaker 1: not really that's not all your players who along to

2151
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 1: They just don't get the opportunity that. And that's cool.

2152
01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 1: You think Google don't do searches for the best text, Yeah,

2153
01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 1: they do. Like if y'all can, if y'all can uh

2154
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:55,800
Speaker 1: one million dollars hack my server. I gotta remember you

2155
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 1: good as an act. If you can hack my server,

2156
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 1: I gotta job for you. That that's the that's the audition.

2157
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:06,000
Speaker 1: That's that's that that that's what he's looking for. You

2158
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 1: put a million dollars out there, the best hackers are

2159
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 1: going to come through, come on on the team. So

2160
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:14,320
Speaker 1: you keep you keep building, and that's what they be.

2161
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't build. Scottie Pippen best deficit. Why

2162
01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:19,200
Speaker 1: is he not on the team? Gary? Why these guys

2163
01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 1: are not on teams? Like, like, I don't think Wall

2164
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 1: Street is gonna help you get a championship because I

2165
01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:29,160
Speaker 1: can tell you some of these trades y'all make not

2166
01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That ain't going Those two players clashed. Those

2167
01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 1: both need to elbow. This is like you got Shock

2168
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:37,560
Speaker 1: and Patrick you in. Yeah, that ship looks great on paper,

2169
01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 1: but they both want that block. Whoever gets their second motherfucker,

2170
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:44,640
Speaker 1: he just out of the loop because he can't play

2171
01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 1: on the other side. But it looked great, It looked great.

2172
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:50,840
Speaker 1: It looked great on paper, you know, but they don't.

2173
01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:52,480
Speaker 1: They don't know that. They're just looking at some ships

2174
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 1: say oh yeah, we need to shoot thirty thirty threes,

2175
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:59,400
Speaker 1: thirty thirty threes, you know, you know more than anybody

2176
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:04,160
Speaker 1: thirty three. Who I mean, there's only two monthfuers don't

2177
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:06,800
Speaker 1: here that can shoot three. Who's gonna take the other

2178
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:09,760
Speaker 1: eighteen of them ships? You know what I mean? But

2179
02:00:10,040 --> 02:00:14,160
Speaker 1: but that's someone who's just yeah, they're just looking at

2180
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:16,600
Speaker 1: stat sheets, looking at stat sheets, looking at the algorithm,

2181
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, and that and and they say this is

2182
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 1: the way the game needs to be. It's like, you

2183
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:25,960
Speaker 1: know that that team needs to be that. You need

2184
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:29,760
Speaker 1: to drive. You you need to drive and get to

2185
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 1: the bucket, get some free throws, get a little mid range.

2186
02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:35,080
Speaker 1: That's where you capitalize. You you take ten three. You

2187
02:00:35,200 --> 02:00:37,680
Speaker 1: got some of these guys who are shooting as many

2188
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:43,800
Speaker 1: shots as fucking realen, No, they can't shoot no, none, none,

2189
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 1: you know, But that's the way the game's going. Quick

2190
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:53,680
Speaker 1: hitters coming down the stretch of favorite teammate, probably Larry

2191
02:00:53,760 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 1: Hughes Jamison, you know you plus four going to the

2192
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:08,640
Speaker 1: black Top and play who are you bringing you? Plus four?

2193
02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring going to black Top black Top? Yeah, okay,

2194
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:23,240
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go to Sean Stephenson, Antoine Jamison, Um,

2195
02:01:24,720 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 1: Karen got you and and Brendon, Oh yeah, because I

2196
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:36,760
Speaker 1: aint gotta pass the ball? Should I haven't Twitter nine

2197
02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:40,600
Speaker 1: the get rid of them. I know what I'm gonna

2198
02:01:40,680 --> 02:01:42,360
Speaker 1: I know what I'm gonna do. I get this ship,

2199
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:47,640
Speaker 1: that ship, get all the glass. Big fella. Top three

2200
02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:50,720
Speaker 1: people you love to see that. You knew it was

2201
02:01:50,720 --> 02:01:59,160
Speaker 1: gonna guard you. I knew it's gonna guard me. Uh,

2202
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:03,360
Speaker 1: Kobe usually don't switched off and put some big somebody bigger.

2203
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:06,560
Speaker 1: So you know, like Bruce Bowing. I love you know

2204
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:08,440
Speaker 1: when Bruce born, because he was gonna bring the best

2205
02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 1: outre He hacks, he hacks. He was good. He was good,

2206
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:16,880
Speaker 1: garden two threes, not good coming up pick rolls and

2207
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:21,640
Speaker 1: going down here. He wasn't good at it. It wasn't

2208
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:26,560
Speaker 1: that wasn't his sting um and probably Larry Hughes Top

2209
02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:31,800
Speaker 1: five scores of all time pier scores yours the top

2210
02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:37,560
Speaker 1: five scores all time. Um, I gotta be biased because

2211
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:41,480
Speaker 1: I can only go as far as um when I

2212
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:45,440
Speaker 1: watched the game, you know, So mine's gonna be from

2213
02:02:45,560 --> 02:02:49,200
Speaker 1: the window. You know, I can't go backwards. I can't

2214
02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:52,000
Speaker 1: go to the mold motherfucker's that. There was seven teams

2215
02:02:52,040 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 1: and there's plenty of Yeah, I don't I don't even

2216
02:02:53,960 --> 02:03:01,520
Speaker 1: want to schedule du two black people. Holy, I'll say

2217
02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:12,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Kobe, just pure scourse, Jordan Kobe, Kevin Durant A. Yes,

2218
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:20,440
Speaker 1: of course, I can't sleep on Mellow. Yeah, it's it's hard.

2219
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:24,840
Speaker 1: It's it's hard. It's hard to sleep on Mellow. You know.

2220
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:27,320
Speaker 1: Joe Johnson has to me. But I you know, like

2221
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 1: he was a score. But you know, I gotta go.

2222
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:33,280
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Mellow. Find a question, who do

2223
02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:36,080
Speaker 1: you want to see on All the Smoke and whoever?

2224
02:03:36,120 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 1: Whatever you answer is, you gotta help us, get us

2225
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:40,000
Speaker 1: and get them on the show. Who you want to

2226
02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:45,920
Speaker 1: see on the show. You don't have everybody talking at

2227
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 1: your ace. We don't had your ace, Kyrie Swaggy pea, Yeah,

2228
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:58,080
Speaker 1: y'all can have swagg back. Come on man, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all.

2229
02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:03,480
Speaker 1: A plus. I look at that because d minus with me. Brother,

2230
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:10,920
Speaker 1: that's that's that's my guess. That's that's my man. Did

2231
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:14,600
Speaker 1: this rotman? Oh the worm and that'll be dope, that'll

2232
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 1: be dope that I like that. Oh, gil Man, we

2233
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:21,160
Speaker 1: appreciate your tongue. Thank you very much. That's a rap

2234
02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 1: with our guest, Gilbert Arenas. You can cast on our

2235
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:27,720
Speaker 1: Showtime Basketball YouTube and the heart platform Black Effects. We'll

2236
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:28,480
Speaker 1: see you all next week.