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Speaker 1: Welcome to Halo territory. We're very lucky today to have

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Speaker 1: Jared Weaver with us.

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Speaker 2: Weave, How you doing, buddy.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great drama. How you doing, buddy, Good to

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Speaker 3: see you.

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Speaker 1: Things are good. Start a Chinese New Year. My daughter

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Speaker 1: was all over me for not wearing red this morning.

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Speaker 1: So as you have three kids yourself, sometimes they will

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Speaker 1: let you know what to do and when to do it.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, they forgot to tell me to where red

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: I was good enough behind you. I did a very

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Speaker 1: poor job of collecting memorabilia. Maybe I should have taken

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Speaker 1: some notes from Ziegler. But you did a very nice

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Speaker 1: job and you have, you know, a lot to show

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Speaker 1: for there. So for the Angel fans that for some

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Speaker 1: reason may not be familiar, which I don't think there

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Speaker 1: are any. Jared's career was an outstanding one. Three time

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Speaker 1: All Star led the Ale and wins twice no hitter

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Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, along with winning twenty games and as

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Speaker 1: far as Angel history, second all time and wins second

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Speaker 1: in games started, third and innings pitched and third in

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Speaker 1: k's So a fantastic career that you know, there's really

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Speaker 1: nothing that you missed out on. I mean, you experienced

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Speaker 1: pretty much everything there is to have in the game.

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Speaker 1: You have a tremendous amount of knowledge on the pitching side,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's kind of what I.

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Speaker 2: Wanted to get intoday with you.

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Speaker 1: Pick your brain on how you went about it, cover

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Speaker 1: some of your you know, upbringing, your development, and then

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Speaker 1: maybe pick a few topics on the current game, and

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Speaker 1: we can kind of get into that. I think I

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Speaker 1: want to start out with, you know, in high school,

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Speaker 1: I was red and I could be wrong, but maybe

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Speaker 1: it was from an interview. What's this about you possibly

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Speaker 1: being better at hoops than baseball?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Man, I don't know if I was better at hoops,

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Speaker 4: but I put more time into hoops. That was like

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Speaker 4: my favorite sport, you know, being at a you know

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Speaker 4: It was easier to shoot hoops out in front, out

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Speaker 4: know what I mean. So my dad was a basketball player.

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Speaker 4: We used to sit down and watch Laker games all

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Speaker 4: and uh, you know, i'd say above average high school player,

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Speaker 4: but I think that. You know, I just put a

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Speaker 1: You playing the five, the four, I got to think that,

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Speaker 2: Jump shot in that game. There's no no.

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Speaker 4: Well no nor no jerk nowisky really no. I didn't

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Speaker 2: It is what it is, for better or worse. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That your your your dad Dave, and your mom Gail

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Speaker 1: played a huge influence on you and your work ethic.

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Speaker 1: It looks like, you know, your dad worked very hard

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Speaker 1: But for you and your brothers, your your brother Jeff

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I mean I owe my dad, Like just

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Speaker 4: sitting back watching my dad do his thing as far

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Speaker 4: I mean literally carrying tool bags all day.

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Speaker 2: And I mean i'd see him crawl through the door.

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Speaker 4: go on job sites with him every now and again,

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Speaker 4: and I think he wanted to see us or wanted

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Speaker 3: Us to kind of take a different path.

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Speaker 4: And and you know, obviously that that happened, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I obviously owe him a lot and home everything for

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Speaker 1: For sure, That's the attitude that I saw when I

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Speaker 1: kept it loose as well. But I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: the biggest compliment I can give is a competitor, A

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Speaker 1: I mean, there were no two ways about it. That's

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Speaker 1: one topic that we have discussed a little on the show,

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Speaker 1: and I've debated some We got somebody still in the

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Speaker 1: at the major league level, I don't agree at all,

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Speaker 1: it's about wins.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what process are you talking? Unless you're not

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that there were some other options, but that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I really was. I mean it's the best decision

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Speaker 2: For sure. You know I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I really didn't get a lot of looks at a

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Speaker 4: because my brother was in the big leagues and kind

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Speaker 4: A couple like four or five California teams I went

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Speaker 4: And uh, you know, just uh actually, when you know,

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Speaker 4: that was the ultimate deciding factor to go there, was

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Speaker 4: Jeff had such high regards of you know, coach Snow

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Speaker 4: it's kind of funny when I got there, coached Snow

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Speaker 4: State gave me the opportunity to kind of avoid my

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Speaker 4: And I mean, it couldn't have been a better situation

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Speaker 4: I mean, just kept it simple and really knew how

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Speaker 4: And coach Weathers was I would compare him to like

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Speaker 1: Well, the results speak for themselves. Thirty seven to nine

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Speaker 1: career record. In two thousand and four, you went fifteen

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Speaker 1: And I'm not certain that that was the only time

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Speaker 1: you didn't strike out ten and three innings in college.

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Speaker 1: I think it happened twice. But I said, wow, I mean,

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Speaker 1: to throw strikes where you want them, and that was

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Speaker 1: looking at. But in hindsight, I mean, you could dota

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Speaker 1: where did that come from? You're six seven, and you

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Speaker 1: got long levers, long arms, and that kind of command.

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Speaker 1: Was that something that long Beach State you were able

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Speaker 4: Well, going back to the tent, I think the sun

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that had a lot to do

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Speaker 4: wrong way and and probably didn't some guys probably didn't

438
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 4: understand me. But if you did, I would hope that,

439
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 4: you know, you kind of flourish from it. And uh,

440
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 4: you know, and and you know, I just love being

441
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 4: in the clubhouse and competing and being with you guys,

442
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 4: and and uh, you know, maybe my mindset kind of

443
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 4: got a little bit out of control with trying to

444
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 4: put you guys in the right direction, but that was

445
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 4: just the way my mentality was.

446
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 3: And kind of learned from those guys and.

447
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 4: And uh but yeah, towards the end of my career,

448
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,719
Speaker 4: you know, with the Padres, there was uh it was

449
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 4: not like that anymore, and and you know, I had

450
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 4: to kind of back off and and uh kind of

451
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 4: cater to these guys, which was you know, it was

452
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 4: hard for me to do.

453
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, there.

454
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 4: Wasn't any dinners going out, you know, with with ten

455
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 4: to twelve guys or everybody was going to their hotel

456
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 4: rooms and playing video games and not hanging out in

457
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 4: the hotel bar to talk about the game afterwards or

458
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 4: you know, things like that.

459
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 3: So it was, uh, not only my career was dying.

460
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 4: But the passion for coming to the field every day

461
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 4: and and then trying to work hard for those guys

462
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 4: kind of went out the window too.

463
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 3: So, uh, it's it's a totally different game.

464
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 4: And uh, yeah, I don't know. And going to your

465
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 4: question about you know, not wanting ex players and stuff

466
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 4: around these these clubs is kind of crazy to me.

467
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 4: It's like almost almost seems like they want kind of

468
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 4: yes man and nobody to kind of, you know, say

469
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: say their opinions or whatnot.

470
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 3: So it's it's totally different.

471
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 2: You know.

472
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 4: I've been back and forth a couple of times with

473
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 4: the Angels and it's definitely a different feel for sure,

474
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 4: And you know, sad to see, but I mean that's

475
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,959
Speaker 4: that's every sport, I guess is evolving in a different direction,

476
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 4: and it's just tough for guys that have been there

477
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 4: and seeing the old school aspect of it and learn

478
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 4: from a lot of those guys in the old school

479
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 4: aspect is kind of going out the window, which is sad.

480
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: I think the game moves in cycles and what's trendy.

481
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: Like For instance, this winner hiring college coaches. The Giants

482
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: and a few others have done that, and I have

483
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: to assume Pat Murphy probably played a big part in that, going,

484
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: you know, from a Hall of Fame college career at

485
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: ASU and then having tremendous success with the Brewers, so hey,

486
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: we got to find another Pat Murphy. And likewise, some

487
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: of these newer pitching labs and hitting labs very trendy,

488
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: and all those guys get plucked, and I think it's

489
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: can be tough, especially for minor league coaches who have

490
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: put in a lot of time and a lot of

491
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: years to watch younger I'm not going to say unestablished,

492
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: but coaches just get rifled straight to the big leagues,

493
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: and you know, they're left kind of wondering what happened.

494
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: You know, there's a thought process that you put in

495
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: the time and you're going to get rewarded for it.

496
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: But I think that's part of the way the game

497
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: is trending. The Angels, on the other hand, have buck

498
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: that trend to his trend yet again, but their staff

499
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: is experienced, and I actually think it's a really cool thing.

500
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: Mike Maddox is on board, Kurt Suzuki has filled out,

501
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: you know, his his coaching staff, and I think Perry

502
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: probably played a huge part.

503
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: I know he did. He's a general manager and.

504
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: Putting together a staff that really stands out.

505
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 2: You know.

506
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: John Gibbons is bench coach, Brady Anderson, John Mabray on

507
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: the hitting side. I'm sure I will forget, but don cheaty.

508
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: Like all of these guys are career baseball men and

509
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: a lot of them played. A lot of them had

510
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: great playing careers too. What do you think a guy

511
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: like Mike Maddox might be able to do for these

512
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: pitchers that.

513
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: A lot of them.

514
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that are reclamation projects, is

515
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: what gets thrown around. But to me, it's guys that

516
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: are needing a little boost to confidence, probably more between

517
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: the years. Alec Manoa, Jordan Romano, Kirby Yates. These guys

518
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: have done it before, and they've done it at a

519
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: high level, and they're probably, in my opinion, just looking

520
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: for a little bit of help, maybe on the mechanics side,

521
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: but you know, an injection of some confidence that lets

522
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: them know, hey man, this stuff is still there. This

523
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 1: is how we're going to do it, and this is

524
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: you know this, I'll take you there.

525
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

526
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: I kind of went back to.

527
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 4: What was it instructs where they where they came to

528
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 4: Angels Stadium or no, whatnot.

529
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 2: And it was kind of nice to sit.

530
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 4: I'm never sat in the meetings and on the coaching

531
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 4: side or anything like that, and and it was kind

532
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 4: of cool to see Perry kind of wanting to bring

533
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 4: back that old school mentality into the game and bringing

534
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 4: back some guys that you know, that had played and

535
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 4: have the experience of what it takes to get through

536
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty two games and to see it

537
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: kind of come into fruition is awesome.

538
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: I think it's great.

539
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: A guy like Mike Maddix, I mean, guy's been around forever,

540
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: He's seen everything there is to see on the pitching

541
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 4: side getting through a game. He's going to be able

542
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: to guide these guys through getting through nine innings, maybe

543
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 4: even help them getting deeper in the game. It sounded

544
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 4: like from from what I heard, they wanted to bring

545
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 4: back more of the conditioning part of it, running long

546
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 4: distance running, getting guys in condition to go seven.

547
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: Eight, nine innings.

548
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: And you know, I hope that that that it works out,

549
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: because I think it's a lost a lost cause in

550
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 4: the game anymore. And you know, I think with what

551
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: Boachi did, uh, with with what he had going on

552
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 4: in Texas, you know, old school guy was able to

553
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: to win a World Series in that regard, I think

554
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 4: that was kind of a you know, you know, like

555
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 4: you said the next Pat Murphy, I think, you know,

556
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: these guys are going back to an old school mentality

557
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 4: after what Boachi did. I think, you know, the Angels

558
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: are heading in the right direction. Is obviously the coaching

559
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: staff is awesome. Why wouldn't as a player you want

560
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 4: to come into that that locker room and just pick

561
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: everybody's brains that that have been around, and uh, you know,

562
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 4: I think that's like for players to have that coming

563
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: to spring training, guys that have been there, Guys that

564
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: have grinded, Guys that have to learn from those guys.

565
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's you know, it's it's it's awesome

566
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: for me. I mean, it's you know, these guys, these numbers,

567
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 4: guys are great, uh, to to put forth on a

568
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: piece of paper what you.

569
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: Expect or what the numbers are in certain situations.

570
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: That's all great, but.

571
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: Learning from people that have actually been in the game

572
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 4: and have gone through one hundred and sixty two games

573
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: is key, and you know, it's great to see that

574
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: they're bringing that back.

575
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: For sure.

576
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: I think there's room for both. We're saying old school.

577
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: I just I would prefer just baseball guys baseball men.

578
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: I think that it's this line in the sand of

579
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, ex player, you know, maybe get off my lawn,

580
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: doesn't understand the technical stuff, doesn't understand the pitch shape.

581
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: So you understand pitch shapes better than anybody. You may

582
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: not know all of the terms, and there's new ones

583
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: being made up probably every single day, but you could

584
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: learn very quickly all of this stuff. I have to

585
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: ask Hankonger's been helpful to me. Sometimes they'll be hitting

586
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: stats and I'm like, what does that mean? You know,

587
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: and it's hard to hit rate and it's honestly just

588
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: pretty endless. And some of these things I wonder. I

589
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: think they're always looking for better ways to kind of

590
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: describe a player's worth or evaluate what he does or

591
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: doesn't do, And some of these things serve a purpose

592
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: war as a staff that I continue to be baffled

593
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: by because there's multiple ways to get there, so you know,

594
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: maybe somebody can help me with that.

595
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: But I want to talk about that. I'm not that guy. No,

596
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: I know you're not. I know you're not. I'm not

597
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: going to press you on that. I do.

598
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: You can probably offer an opinion on the condition, and

599
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned that. I think that at least what I

600
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: saw from the best pictures that I faced, and usually

601
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: ones that got me out a lot after their starts,

602
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: they were out there, whether it was running polls, whether

603
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: it was running stadiums, they were doing distance running. And

604
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: I think in recent years things have shifted more towards sprints,

605
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: or maybe.

606
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: Not much at all.

607
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: I think the thought behind the sprints is and I

608
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: did ask to make sure that I wasn't totally off base,

609
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: but it mimics more potentially of the actual pitching, the

610
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: act of pitching, the stop start aspect in between innings,

611
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: and maybe a little bit more of the max effort.

612
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: But all I can say is that the best pitchers

613
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: I saw ran for distance, and I think that it

614
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: helps you mentally, you know, gain some toughness, and I

615
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: think the ability to go deeper into ball games you

616
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: have to be in shape you have to have your

617
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: fitness at a certain level, and it's a different kind

618
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: of fitness. But what I mean, what are your thoughts?

619
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: You know far better than me, But would you agree

620
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: with some of those things?

621
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

622
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: I mean, like we kind of talked about earlier, I

623
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: wanted to feel as good in the seventh, eighth, and

624
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 4: ninth inning as I did in the first inning. And

625
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 4: the only way to do that is to get your conditioning,

626
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 4: long distance conditioning where it needs to be.

627
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: And you know, for me, the day after my.

628
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: Start, I would usually run if there was a good

629
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: city to run out outside and I would but usually

630
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 4: just ran around the concourse and I would do six laps,

631
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 4: and uh, you know g rich Garrett Richards would come

632
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 4: with me, or you know, some of the young guys

633
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 4: would come with me, and I would you know, push

634
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 4: them to you know, kind of get them to uh,

635
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: you know, buy into this long distance running thing. And uh,

636
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: a lot of them did. And you know, when I

637
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 4: got to like that sixth lap, I would tell myself,

638
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 4: all right, this is the ninth inning, and I would

639
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: sprint around the concourse just to kind of kick in

640
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 4: that cardio even more so. Uh, and even you know,

641
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 4: the day after that would be long distance polls. And

642
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 4: then the only time I really did sprints was the

643
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 4: day before and it was just you know, just kind

644
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 4: of get your legs going and and and uh, you know,

645
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 4: get them warmed up or whatever for the next day.

646
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 4: You know, didn't want to do too much cardio and

647
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: wear yourself out the day before you started, so I

648
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: would do my ten sprints just to kind of, you know, get.

649
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: Your body going.

650
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, yeah, I don't I don't understand. I

651
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: guess when you're only going for a third innings, you

652
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 4: can get away with doing sprints, but you know, if

653
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 4: you're trying to do you know, trying to get through a.

654
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: You know.

655
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: Length in the game, you gotta do long distance cardio, right,

656
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it just kind of is common sense. I mean,

657
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: so yeah, it's kind of kind of weird to see

658
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: that kind of go out of the game. I was

659
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 4: kind of surprised by that too. When I sat in

660
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: the coaches meeting, I was like, wait, there's no more

661
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 4: running for pitching. It didn't didn't really understand why, but

662
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 4: maybe they thought that was leading.

663
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: To injuries, which is kind of nonsense.

664
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean.

665
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: It's it's something you have to do to be able

666
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: to get deep in a game. I mean you, like

667
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 4: I said, you want to feel the same as you

668
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 4: did in the first that you're doing the seventh thing, Dinton.

669
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: The only way to do that is is get your

670
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: cardio where it needs to be.

671
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: That's for sure. I agree.

672
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: I think also having command in a third pitch is

673
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: it's incredibly important. But not I mean you obviously, but

674
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: thinking back to Shurezer, Verlander, Kershaw, Felix, all these guys.

675
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: To be a premium major league starter, it's very difficult

676
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: to do it with just two pitches you had, you know,

677
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: by any count, five or six pitches. You added the

678
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: two seamer. I think that was something that you were

679
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: helped Scott Shields and Joel Peniro, at least what I saw,

680
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: they were able to help you with that.

681
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: There's a nickname for you.

682
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Touched on it earlier, the front door two seamer to

683
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: a lefty. Do you remember what what you called that

684
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: or was there a name for that?

685
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we called that the old dick knicker.

686
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 4: You know, you just kind of skim it right past

687
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 4: that thing and bring it back into the strike zone.

688
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if we're allowed to say that on

689
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 4: this this station or not. But yeah, we you know

690
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 4: the old the old two seam Dick Nicker that was,

691
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: you know, it was a Scott Scott Shield special and

692
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 4: he was nice enough to to teach that one to me. Yeah,

693
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: for sure.

694
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: Like that.

695
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: We can call it the Zippernick or whatever, but you know,

696
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: because it was, it was virtually the same. Every time

697
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: you'd see the guy's hands go out and you know,

698
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: he basically shift backwards, and you know, it was right there,

699
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: strike three. I don't there's nothing you can do with that.

700
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: It's very few lefties, actually, I can't recall hardly anyone

701
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: being able. Maybe David Price was the closest, and he

702
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: but especially if you set a guy up with a

703
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: change up and then come back with that, it's a

704
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: lethal combo. And I think that's especially why during day games,

705
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: if we were playing a day game at Angels Stadium,

706
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: you were out there for a lot of them, and

707
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: I mean we were winning. That's that's all I know.

708
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: We were winning those games. We were I mean that

709
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: was a mentality to it. A compliment to you, is

710
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to get at. When you took the mound.

711
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: I expected to win as as a teammate. It didn't

712
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: always play out that way, but that is what you're

713
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: looking for in an ace of a staff, and if

714
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: you can have more than one guy. And I think

715
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: we were very you know, spoiled in that regard Dan

716
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: Granky having all three at once. CJ came into the

717
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: mix as well. In hindsight, I kind of scratched my

718
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: head at least for twenty eleven twenty twelve, how we

719
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: weren't able to do a little bit more. But the

720
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: Texas Rangers were absolute juggernaut with their offense, and that

721
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: was before the addition of some of these extra playoff teams,

722
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: so we didn't have that luxury. But we had some

723
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: good teams, and you know, you do the best you

724
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: can and you have to live with it. But I

725
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: would have loved to give it a little more of

726
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: a run because I think in a playoff series, especially

727
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: three games or so, you know, with you and Dan

728
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: and you know, somebody else, potentially it's a lethal combo.

729
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: You're going to, you know, you guys, maybe give up

730
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: a couple of runs and hopefully our offense could score

731
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: a few and you know, it's a what if. But

732
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about the no hitter briefly.

733
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: I know, as a defensive player I played behind Irvans

734
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: as well. His was a little I'm not going to

735
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: say clunk here. There was a little more traffic on

736
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: the basis. Yours was incredibly clean. Can you talk about

737
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: that just a little bit. I know you have in

738
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: the past, but and maybe how much confidence, the extra

739
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: confidence you would have had looking over at third base

740
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: and seeing who was out there.

741
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: Well, I there's no way that I would have been

742
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 4: able to throw no hitter without you at third base.

743
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 3: There, There's no doubt about that, that's for sure.

744
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: I mean, he made some unbelievable plays over there, buddy,

745
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: for not ever playing over there.

746
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: I made one and I didn't which one, Which one?

747
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: Which one? Jamie Carroll bunt.

748
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 4: Okay, the bunt okay, I was gonna say that. But

749
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: a couple of pop flies.

750
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, pop up's great. I pressed on this too.

751
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: I had to.

752
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I've wondered forever. I asked, you know, and

753
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: I think so gave a very polite answer. But I mean,

754
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: I know I was sitting there for about the fit

755
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: and I had lost track actually candidly that it wasn't

756
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: a perfect game. I thought it was a perfect game

757
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: for at least in any or two longer than it,

758
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: so that I was literally terrified. I'm like, not only

759
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: can I not boot this? I mean, I you don't

760
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: want to be the guy on defense. It's it really

761
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: is nerve wracking. You don't want to mess it up.

762
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: And I know I kept looking over my shoulder. I've

763
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: said it before, but where the hell is Kayaspo? Fifth inning?

764
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: You know, where is he? Seventh inning? And this is

765
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: like not even funny anymore. Where is he?

766
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: Like?

767
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: And then the ninth inning, and I just remember looking

768
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, you know, and I went out.

769
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: There, you're hot, You're doing a great job.

770
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: Over there.

771
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 3: They're confidence in you. I had confidence that the.

772
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: Bat was contributing. But we'll get back to mainly, what

773
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: are the thoughts though going through your head? I know

774
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: you're focused on the game, but you know, are there

775
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: nerves involved in something like that on your side?

776
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: Uh? You know going into it?

777
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 4: Which is I've always said this too, is had I

778
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 4: had a good session in the bullpen prior to the game,

779
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: which doesn't always usually translate.

780
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: Into the game.

781
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 4: It's almost like you want to not have a good

782
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 4: session and then going to the I don't know, it's

783
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 4: just kind of what my mindset was. So I was

784
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: nervous going into the game because I had a good

785
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 4: bullpen session before and but it was one of those

786
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 4: rare games where the the location and everything kind of

787
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 4: translated into the game too. And you know it's you

788
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 4: never expect I mean never. I mean, first of all,

789
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 4: getting to the big leagues and pitching the league is

790
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 4: one thing, and then trying to throwing a no hitter

791
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 4: is I mean, you never think that's gonna happen, obviously, right,

792
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 4: and and.

793
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 2: The stars have to line and it did.

794
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 4: There's guys making great plays like yourself and Tory Hunter

795
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: and Vernon Wells and and god. But maybe you can

796
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 4: remind me a couple more plays. But there was no

797
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 4: nerves really until.

798
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: I went out for the ninth inning. It's like, you

799
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: don't expect anything to happen.

800
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 4: I think the crowd build up maybe in the eighth

801
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 4: and ninth inning kind of got you aware of kind

802
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: of what was going on.

803
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: But anything can happen in big league games, like a.

804
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 4: Broken bat hit you know, off the end of the

805
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 4: bat over the second basement's head or for you know,

806
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 4: anything like that can happen through a course of a game.

807
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: So I was kind of I wouldn't say expecting that,

808
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 4: but just knowing that I still had nine outs to

809
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 4: go or twelve outs ago, that anything like that could happen.

810
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 4: But when it got to I think when I I

811
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 4: think I struck out. Who was it span in the

812
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 4: first in the ninth inning?

813
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: I can't.

814
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it's god, it's been what I can't believe

815
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 3: it's been eight ten, ninth what is twenty twelve?

816
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: Good lord?

817
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 3: Fourteen years ago?

818
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: But you know, going out for the ninth inning and

819
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 4: the crowd hyped up, and then once you get that

820
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 4: first out, you're like, oh man, this this, I mean this,

821
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 4: this might happen. Uh you know, you get the second,

822
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 4: you get the second out, and then uh uh you know,

823
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 4: the the third guy comes up the bat and I'm

824
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 4: thinking he's gonna take first pitch, so I just throw

825
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 4: him a cookie down the middle, and I think it

826
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: was Alex Casill or something.

827
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah angels, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

828
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: He flew out to Tory and no better guy to

829
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 4: hit it to it for the last out than Tory.

830
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 4: But I literally threw him just like a cookie because

831
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: I thought he was going.

832
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: To take the first pitch and he went and took

833
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: a big hack at it.

834
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 4: And luckily it was nighttime and the you know, the

835
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 4: the fog good rolled in a little bit, but he

836
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 4: got it pretty good.

837
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: It kind of felt like he got it off the

838
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: end a little bit, but still got a.

839
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: Good and uh, you know, Spider Man Tory Hunter out there,

840
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 4: ran it down and on the warning track and uh,

841
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 4: just jumping around with you guys on the field and

842
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 4: and you know, have my mom and dad in the

843
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 4: stand you know, it's uh, it was well, I mean,

844
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 4: probably one of my favorite moments of my career for sure,

845
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 4: but uh you know that and that and that's why

846
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 4: I stayed in Anaheim. My mom and dad were in

847
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 4: the stands every start, always made the track down from

848
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: seeing me, and uh, you know, you can't put a

849
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: price tag on this stuff, man.

850
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: It was.

851
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: It was pretty pretty.

852
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: Cool to have them come on the field and have

853
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 4: my wife run out on the field and and share

854
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 4: that moment with them and and with you guys, was uh,

855
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 4: you know, something I'll never forget for sure.

856
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: It was incredible. I cringe looking at my reaction, jumping

857
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: up and die. I think I have never been one.

858
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: I was terrified on the golf side as if I

859
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: ever got a hole in one, because it's it just

860
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: is not you know, not a good dancer and not

861
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: a good you know, all that stuff is always. But

862
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: you know what I do know is it wasn't fake

863
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: like I was. Legitimately, I think part of it was

864
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: because I was mortified the whole time. You just want

865
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: to really wanting it to happen for you and really

866
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: wanted to be able to, you know, make sure that

867
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: I could do my part. But you know, you just

868
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: don't see that stuff very often, and a lot of

869
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: guys go their whole career not playing behind one. Fortunately

870
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: on the offensive Saturday, I don't think any team I

871
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: was on was ever no hit. It was close at times,

872
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: and I see so many of them fall apart. You know,

873
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: in that ninth inning, You'll get an alert on the

874
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: TV or something and I'll turn it on, and you know,

875
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: you want to see a guy you take it and

876
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, usually eight and two thirds and some CEE

877
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: and I single or something, you know, and it really

878
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: is go that far, but you were able to get

879
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: the job done. I think it's fascinating that you know,

880
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: throwing that cookie in there. I think that that had

881
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: to be the hardest hit of the game. I don't remember,

882
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: And that was one thing you were always excellent at.

883
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: You got you struck out more than your fair share

884
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: of guys, but you've got a lot of soft contact,

885
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: and I think that was.

886
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

887
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: As a hitter, it's incredibly frustrating to go up there

888
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: and just hit wee wee dinkers against a guy. A

889
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: lot of infield popouts, a lot of you know, just nothing,

890
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: especially on pitches you maybe I think you're getting a

891
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: decent look at, but I know for you, and I'll

892
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: kind of tie it back. Your deception was one of

893
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: the hallmarks in my opinion, of what you did. You

894
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: did not give the hit or a good look at

895
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: the ball. I think the majority of really good pitchers,

896
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: you know, for those kids at home, if you have

897
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: a funky delivery, don't scrap it for no reason. I

898
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: think that you know'll watch the All Star Game year

899
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: and year out. A lot of guys with some weird

900
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: mechanics make it a long way and they do really well,

901
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: and part of it is hiding the ball. I'd assume

902
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: you'd agree with that that you know, velocity is great,

903
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: but it's only as great as you know what you

904
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: do with it. And if you give me a good

905
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: look at one hundred mile an hour fastball, you iron micish,

906
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: it means nothing to be able to I'm that up

907
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: with with ease.

908
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well, I got a question for you,

909
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 4: going back to the note hit or do you still

910
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 4: have that bottle of chrystal etched out or did you

911
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: pop it open?

912
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: Do you remember even receiving that, Yes, I do you

913
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: have it? Yeah, I have it. I have a you

914
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: have to put you on the spot. Did you open it?

915
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: Maybe hawk that on eBay or something? No, I didn't

916
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: open it. No, No, I just I didn't know if

917
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: you maybe opened it.

918
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna say, maybe pop pop it open

919
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 4: for the first kid born or something, you know, I

920
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 4: don't know.

921
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: Miss that, but no, no, that's something that that's like

922
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: pawn shop or something.

923
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 4: No.

924
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. No, No, I didn't. I wasn't.

925
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 4: I wouldn't expect Yeah, No, I just didn't know if

926
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 4: you had it or you know, opened it or threw

927
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 4: it away or whatever.

928
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 2: I was just asking, Yeah know, that's that's all good?

929
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: Tell me?

930
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah. I picked your brain on everything. What's

931
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: the deal with with travel ball? I know you got

932
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: a son, and that's it's that age navigating the youth

933
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: side of it. Now, if you kind of wrapped your

934
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: head around it, is it different than when you were

935
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: growing up?

936
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, we had way different.

937
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: I was coaching my son, my aident's with twelve years old.

938
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: Now.

939
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: I started coaching him when he was like eight or

940
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: nine in travel ball. I mean, because the thing is,

941
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: I was always a you know, pony ball guy, and

942
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 4: I was gonna put him through pony But the talent

943
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 4: in the rec league ball stuff is now is kind

944
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 4: of diminished because everybody's doing the travel ball stuff.

945
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: So if your kid is any has any kind of competitive.

946
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 4: Or as good at baseball or any sport in that matter,

947
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 4: you have to go to travel ball to kind of

948
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 4: you know, have his level of play keep up with

949
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 4: everybody else's. So, you know, I started coaching, helping coach

950
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 4: when he was like eight or nine, and you know,

951
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: did the whole Cooper's talent thing this last year with him,

952
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 4: and I had I had to stop because it was

953
00:46:59,200 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 4: just too much.

954
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: The parents were just killing it.

955
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: It was just man too much.

956
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 4: And and and the only reason I stepped into two

957
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 4: coach is because you know, these travel ball coaches, they're

958
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 4: they're first of all, they're getting paid to coach these teams,

959
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 4: a majority of them, which is mind boggling to me.

960
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 4: And uh, you know that I saw that these coaches

961
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 4: wouldn't teach anything and practices, you know, the no fundamentals

962
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: or where to be on relays and cutoffs.

963
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: And all that stuff.

964
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: And and when the kids didn't know what to do

965
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 4: in the game, they would get yelled at. And it's like, well,

966
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 4: you're not teaching these kids where they're supposed to be

967
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 4: or what they're supposed to do or any kind of fundamentals.

968
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 4: So how do you even get away with with coaching

969
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 4: this team or getting on these kids for not knowing?

970
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 2: Which was the most.

971
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 4: Frustrating thing thing for me to watch. So I decided

972
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: to step in and and with with our team that

973
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: we had, we we we it was you know, repetitive

974
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 4: infield stuff, teaching them how to you know, just teaching fundamentals,

975
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 4: teaching them baseball, and and uh, you know, we we

976
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 4: ended up, you know, having a good postion in Cooperstown.

977
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 4: It was awesome to see the way the kids develop.

978
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 4: But the whole travel ball thing, if you don't have

979
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: the right coach, it's it's it's just the money.

980
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: It's a money grab for these guys. I mean, they

981
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 3: make a living on it.

982
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, my my biggest recommendation is for

983
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 4: these parents, it's just to find a good coach that's

984
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,479
Speaker 4: teaching them fundamentals in between these games and and really

985
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 4: teaching them.

986
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 3: The game, uh is first and foremost.

987
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: It's like you know, and these parents it's it's it's

988
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 4: sad to see them think of these kids as like

989
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 4: investments because there's so much money in the game anymore.

990
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 4: It's like, man, it just boggles my mind. And I

991
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 4: you know, I don't like to think I know everything

992
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 4: about you know, the U sports part. But I know baseball.

993
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: That's all I know. I'm not a very small our individual.

994
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 4: When it comes to anything else, but I know baseball

995
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 4: and and know what these kids needs. And still had

996
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 4: parents coming to me saying things that you know, I

997
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: remember I was at it, you know, we were in

998
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: down at Huntington Beach, your neck of the woods and and.

999
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: A parent kind of came at me and and I

1000
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 3: just took off my hat and was like, here you go, coach.

1001
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 4: I don't I don't need to, you know, do you know.

1002
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 4: I was like, I I'm sorry. I'm trying to do

1003
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: the best I can for these kids. And and if

1004
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 4: you think you know better, then you can go coach

1005
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: a team. But it just got it got a little

1006
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 4: bit too much, so I kind of stepped away and

1007
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, kind of just coach from afar now.

1008
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 4: I at the end of the day, he's still twelve

1009
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 4: years old, my son, and I just wanted to have

1010
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 4: fun still, you know. And it's like you just want

1011
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 4: to prepare him for as much as you can when

1012
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: they get to high school and and kind of let

1013
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 4: them flourish from there. But uh, the whole travel ball

1014
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 4: thing for me is just his craziness and and uh,

1015
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 4: you know, playing year about round baseball is insane as well.

1016
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 4: So uh, yeah, more power to them if they think

1017
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 4: that's the way that they're supposed to get their kids.

1018
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 3: To the next level. I'm just going to go about

1019
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 3: it the way I know I did coming up.

1020
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: So and we'll see how that works out. But yeah,

1021
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: the whole thing is crazy.

1022
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: Man, that's fantastic. You know, a parent telling you to

1023
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: fly a kite essentially because you know, you just have

1024
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: no clue what you're talking about. You did major in criminology.

1025
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you don't have to expand upon that.

1026
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: But you're you're you got more on the ball than

1027
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 1: you let on. I know you like to play it awfully,

1028
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: but you know you did, you know. I think that's

1029
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: part of it too. Your experience and everything lends itself

1030
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: so much better in my opinion, to either the college

1031
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: level or pro ball. And I think that any team

1032
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: would be really forty and it at least as like

1033
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: a special advisor, you know, with three younger kids, you

1034
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: want to be involved in their lives and present. But

1035
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: I think that there's a huge void that would be

1036
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: a great fit at the pro level or college. But

1037
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: I think I know Troy Percival I believe is doing that,

1038
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

1039
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: Man.

1040
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: I just selfishly would love to see you being around

1041
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: guys a little more often, being able to take guys

1042
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: that you know, you've been there, you've done it, And

1043
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent confident you could wrap your

1044
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: head around any of this tech stuff, any of these

1045
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: concepts that may seem foreign. You know, I think part

1046
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: of the tug of war is you're not shared like

1047
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: they're not shared with with ex players or with us,

1048
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: and so it just kind of becomes something that like, man,

1049
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, I have no idea what they're talking about.

1050
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: Maybe that's intentional they don't want you to know, but

1051
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: it's not something that you couldn't adapt to, and I

1052
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: love to see that for you. I guess that that's

1053
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: probably about it. Spring training just started. We're going to

1054
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: get more into that. I saw yesterday three guys are

1055
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: already touching either upper nineties or one hundred miles an

1056
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: hour on their first day of live BP seems like

1057
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: a lot very quickly. Bremner, being their first pick, apparently

1058
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: was up to ninety eight, so he looks healthy. Yeah,

1059
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: you know, that would be a perfect guy too. I mean,

1060
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: great college career, and you know he's learning on the fly.

1061
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: He may make a push to make the rotation out

1062
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: of spring. He also has three pitches, like I said,

1063
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: which is huge, and you know, I'm rooting for the kid,

1064
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: but being around somebody like you would be invaluable do

1065
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: you do.

1066
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I asked you, But no

1067
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: plans currently to go out to Arizona. Uh no, I haven't.

1068
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 3: Haven't got a call. I told him the call when,

1069
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: you know, whenever they needed me to come out.

1070
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 4: You know, I've obviously kept them aware that, you know,

1071
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 4: like you said, I have three young kids, and it's

1072
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 4: just tough for.

1073
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 2: Me to kind of, you know, just bail out last minute.

1074
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 3: But you know, it would be cool to do a

1075
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 3: limited role something.

1076
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 4: I told, you know, I had a conversation a couple

1077
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 4: of months ago with with someone and you know, just

1078
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 4: told them, you know, I can't do a full role thing,

1079
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 4: but you know, if there's a limited, limited role thing

1080
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 4: where I can pop my head in here and there,

1081
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 4: let me know and and would be more than willing to,

1082
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 4: uh to help out.

1083
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: So you know, it's uh, it's like I said, it's

1084
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 3: all I know.

1085
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 4: I would love to be a part of it, but

1086
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 4: you know, my dedication to my kids and my family

1087
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 4: around I was first and foremost, and uh, you know,

1088
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 4: kind of keep an eye on it from afar and

1089
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 4: you know, whenever the phone rings, I'll see what happens.

1090
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 4: But uh, you know, I wish them nothing but the best,

1091
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 4: and and it seems like they're heading in the right

1092
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: direction with with some things, so hopefully it it'd be

1093
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 4: great to see this thing turned around and get them

1094
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 4: back in the playoffs.

1095
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: You know, I would love to see my my buddy

1096
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: trout have.

1097
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 4: Some more playoff, playoff appearances at the plate, and hopefully

1098
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 4: they can, you know, hopefully some of these guys that

1099
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 4: they're kind of taking a chance on pan out and

1100
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 4: workout for him, and it's it would be fun to

1101
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 4: see that the Halo's back on the playoffs, no doubt

1102
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 4: about it.

1103
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

1104
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: It seems like Trouty is going to be back in

1105
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: center field. If you happened to see that yesterday, but

1106
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 1: he said it felt better on the body right field,

1107
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: I guess didn't treat him all that well. So you know,

1108
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: he's at the point of his career, he knows best,

1109
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: and he's gonna if he wants to man center field,

1110
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: and the Angels are on board, I'd say, you know,

1111
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: go for it, absolutely, like you would love to see.

1112
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: I think he's going to have a much better season

1113
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: this year. He seems in a good place. The I

1114
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: don't know I just see a smile on his face

1115
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: already in spring, which is really good to see. Looks

1116
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: like he's in shape as usual, dropped a few pounds.

1117
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: But you know, if they put this together, this could

1118
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 2: be a lot better team. We've covered it.

1119
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: The projections aren't all that favorable right now, but I

1120
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: think there's a lot more talent than some people.

1121
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: You know, may be aware of. Even you know this.

1122
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: Let this most recent draft, I think is getting back

1123
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: to what we knew coming up. Some really good players

1124
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: with high upside. They're going to need some help, you know,

1125
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: kind of honing it in. But building that farm system

1126
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: back is a huge thing. We won't get into it

1127
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: too much, but I know that you concur I've heard

1128
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: you say that, you know a staple of when we

1129
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: were coming up as a strong farm and I believe

1130
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: that is going to be huge for them as well.

1131
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: Have you last question and then we'll let you you go.

1132
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: Did you get a chance to look at Trout National

1133
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: Golf Course in person? If you got to play it yet?

1134
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1135
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 4: I was gonna wear my hat on here too, but

1136
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 4: I decided to look nice for you and do my

1137
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 4: hair for the first time in a couple of yeah, yeah,

1138
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 4: you're welcome.

1139
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. I went to the.

1140
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 4: Opening weekend. I think that was the October they opened

1141
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 4: it up. That it wasn't fully done. The course was

1142
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 4: done and the conversations were done, and we went out

1143
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 4: there in October and checked it out, me Jason Vargas,

1144
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 4: Mustakas when all went out there, and it is it is.

1145
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 3: They didn't cut any corners, that's for sure.

1146
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 4: And you know, we went out there when it was

1147
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 4: dirt and walked around with Tiger Woods and and Trout

1148
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 4: when they were kind of going through it, and got

1149
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 4: to meet Tiger, which is I don't get starstruck too

1150
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 4: oft theen, but shaking Tiger's hand, I kind of. It

1151
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 4: was the first time I've ever introduced myself as Jared Weaver.

1152
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 4: I did the double name, which I am am so

1153
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 4: embarrassed for, but I was. I was really nervous to

1154
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 4: meet him. Like I said, I think Kobe Bryant's the

1155
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 4: other one. When he came into the clubhouse and then

1156
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 4: Tiger Woods was second, I was like, wow, you know,

1157
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 4: he's just I mean, I saw him from the beginning

1158
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 4: of his career. So but anyways, yeah, Trout National is

1159
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 4: going to be something special and honored to be a

1160
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 4: part of it, Honored to you know, have trout reach

1161
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 4: out and ask if.

1162
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a member and and and whatnot.

1163
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 4: So, uh, you're gonna you're gonna get off your wallet

1164
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 4: and join up there?

1165
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 2: Or what are you thinking?

1166
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: It might be a window shopper, to be honest with you,

1167
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: watch from Afar Moustak, just make it more than twelve holes.

1168
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: When he was there, could he carve that out or

1169
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: was the normal for him? Yeah?

1170
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 4: He was, he was, and well he's got four kids

1171
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 4: at home, so sometimes he's got a bell out to

1172
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 4: help with the wife and the kids. But he was

1173
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 4: there by himself, so yeah, he got through thirty six holes.

1174
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 4: Ashley was which was which was awesome.

1175
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, sorry Moose, not a cheap If Tiger was

1176
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: out there too, I'd hope that you'd be able to

1177
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: post for that.

1178
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: But all right, Well, thank you for coming on, man.

1179
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: I know you're you're you're quite busy, but we appreciate it.

1180
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: The fans will enjoy it and all the best.

1181
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: Man, thank you.

1182
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're welcome, man. Thanks for having me on. Good

1183
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 3: talking to you, Bud.

1184
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: Awesome