1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Lifetime, the official athletic country Club of the Minnesota Vikings, 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: has something for every member of your family. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: Get your family going today at Lifetime, dot Life Forward, 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: Slash Kids. 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: I think it was a great pick. I think the 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 3: kit will do really, really well. I thought it was great. 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 3: After you sit down and kind of watch his highlights 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: and realize that he won the Bolitnik cough at Pittsburgh. 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: Now he has life changing money. I mean you, I 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: don't even think you can buy eggs with a million 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 3: dollars at this point, but like, these guys have life 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: changing money, and it's good to have somebody you know 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 3: along with you to kind of help you enjoy the 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: ride a little. 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: It's another edition of the Minnesota Vikings podcast. 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: You've heard multiple. 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: Episodes over the weekend after the NFL Draft wrapped up. 18 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: I've got j Nelson, Gabe Henderson, Eric Davidson here with 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: me and our guest this week, Kafan's Power Trip Morning 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: Show Meet Sauce, Paul. 21 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: Meets Os Labor. 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: I was gonna, Paul, I was going to make it 23 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: a point to make sure we said your name so 24 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: that people didn't just say your nickname all the time. 25 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: That's fine, either one works for me. People call me 26 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: all kinds of things, and it's fine. I'll go by 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: meat sauce, Paul, meat, whatever you want to call me 28 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 3: is fine. 29 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 4: I feel like there are too many Pauls right now, 30 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 4: so I feel like sauce or meat sauce is just 31 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: that's more on brand. I mean, you got Paul Charci 32 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,639 Speaker 4: and Paul Allen. I'm sure there's more Pauls in this world. 33 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, anything works at this point. 34 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 5: I know you've told the story multiple times here over 35 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 5: the years, but you know, how did you feel when 36 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 5: they gave you the meat sauce nickname at this point? 37 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: Well, I felt like I arrived in a weird way 38 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: because when I first started here at kfan, everybody had 39 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: like a unique nickname and I was just Paul. And 40 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: it was like, well, that's boring. And I've said, I 41 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: don't know if my career would still if I would 42 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: still have a career in radio if I was just 43 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: boring Paul. I think that the meat Sauce persona has 44 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: helped me a ton. 45 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well and look at sauce sauce is cool now, right, 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: like Sasca partner things like that. 47 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, he stole that nickname from me, but I 48 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: can't afford that sweet chain that he has, or else 49 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: I would have one like that. Did you get any 50 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: royalties from instill in your name? No, that would be great, though, 51 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: I thank you for the chain. There's like a quick 52 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: rumor that the Vikings might get him last year, and 53 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: I was like, that would be incredible. The bit would 54 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: be great, the whole thing at Mark. He could be 55 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: a guest on the Power Trip. But they didn't sauce 56 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: with sauce. I like that. I like that. Yeah. 57 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Well, the NFL Draft had twelve million of viewers on 58 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: three networks for night one. I mean, it's becoming quite 59 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: a spectacle. And I know, Paul, you've kind of really 60 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: honed in on your draft skills this year, Like what 61 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: makes you love the draft so much that you really 62 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: were like, Okay, I'm gonna be an expert in this. 63 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 3: Well, the first year I ever watched it was nineteen 64 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: ninety eight. I was sixteen years old and it was 65 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: the year that the Vikings got Randy Moss, and I 66 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: just assumed the NFL Draft was Okay, here's forty people, 67 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 3: we'll just go one, two, three, four, that it was 68 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 3: basically chalk when you know, the best players would go 69 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: at the top and it went from there. But then, 70 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: like you know, he had some off the field issues. 71 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: There was the bit about how Dallas told him they 72 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 3: would take him, and just the drama of it, the 73 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: real drama of it is what attracted me to it, 74 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: and I will never forget. You know, I was paying 75 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: attention to it in ninety yet, but then when I 76 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: finally you know, there was no Twitter, there was no Facebook, 77 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: there was no nothing, And when the Vikings got him, 78 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: I was like, well, this is incredible how this all 79 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: worked out. And then I just realized, like a how 80 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: fun it was, how ESPN and all these other networks 81 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: have made it what it is. And somebody tweeted the 82 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: other day that mel Kiper should be in the Hall 83 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: of Fame for just how I mean, he's the reason 84 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: that twelve million people. I mean, the whole story about 85 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: mel Kiper is back in the seventies, he had all 86 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: this information and people laughed at him, and people forget 87 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: that he was like seventeen or eighteen years old, but 88 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: nobody when he would do radio interviews, asked him how 89 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: old he was, and they laughed him out of buildings. 90 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: We're like, no one would ever want this information. This 91 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: is worthless information, and he's He's a giant reason it 92 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: is the spectacle. I mean, I think the stat was 93 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: Tatum that you were talking about, is that's more than 94 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: people watched the World Series in the NBA finals, Like 95 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 3: the A the NFL always is king, but that's incredible 96 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: that people watched a bunch of other adults get drafted. 97 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: And I always kind of like boggled my mind that, like, 98 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: you wouldn't as a player want to be in that moment, 99 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,559 Speaker 1: to walk across the stage, to have that like defining moment, 100 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: because I feel like that's becoming less and less of 101 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: a trend. 102 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, there were only seventeen prospects and invited to the 103 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 4: draft this year, so the fact that that luster has 104 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: kind of went down for players to go, but the 105 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: ratings are going up. Like it's very interesting to me 106 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 4: that that's the case, because you would think that if 107 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: there are less players, there will be less people watching. 108 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: But people are still still in tune to what the 109 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 4: NFL Draft is every single year. 110 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, people love it and it's one of those things 111 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: where it's at the perfect time of the year. The 112 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: masters is over, March Madness is over. I mean really 113 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 3: the only thing going is uh, you know, baseball and 114 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: some early playoffs. But it's just that's the time where 115 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: it's like the it's exactly two months almost two months 116 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: after the Super Bowl, so it's we get enough time 117 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: to like miss football, and then two months later we're 118 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 3: all like, yeah, Sundays are pretty born and less unless 119 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: there's a golf major going on. We need football again. 120 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 3: And then there it is, and now it's kind of 121 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: like that quiet time. But I mean everybody there at 122 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: Vikings and Vikings dot com. Nos, it starts again in 123 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: like a month, like it's not that far off, Like 124 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: we in two months, you know, two and a half 125 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: months training camp starting out, like it's not like it's 126 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: six months away. It's literally right around the corner. 127 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: Huh. 128 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: I mean when you were when you kind of when 129 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: you're around. 130 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: The facility a lot, you really feel it. You just 131 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: they all start coming back. You're like, okay, getting back 132 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: used to things like no more break, if there was a. 133 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: Break, Rookie showing up, Ricky showing up. 134 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 135 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: I mean the XFL would like to have a word 136 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 3: with self right now. The XFL is terrible. How is 137 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: that having yea and the only I have buddies of 138 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: mine that watch it because they gamble on it. But 139 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: it's so bad. It was on the other day and 140 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, what is this? This is just hideous, It's bad. 141 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: You're right, You're right. 142 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: Well, you were feverishly tweeting during the NFL Draft, but 143 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: you were also watching the Wild at the same time, 144 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: so following your timeline was pretty entertaining and having to like, like, 145 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: what was your setup? Were you at home? Did you 146 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: have like the two three TV sets going on? 147 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: So I was at on Thursday. I everybody at the station, 148 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: it's all hands on deck for the NFL Draft, except 149 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: a long time ago. I told my boss, Chad Abbott 150 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: that I was like, unless you one hundred percent need me, 151 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to watch this at home. So on Thursday, 152 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: I watch it at home and I kind of pace 153 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 3: around because I get excited about it. It's very weird. 154 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: I know, I'm surprised somebody married me again, but like, 155 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: it's just how it is. But then the second day, 156 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: Nordo and I were at the cafe and studios, so 157 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: we had the draft on the TV and then the 158 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: game didn't start till eight thirty, so we were on 159 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: till seven thirty. I went home and watched the draft, 160 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: and then right as the wild got down, you could 161 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: tell it was kind of tilting one way. So I 162 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: just kept it on the draft and I watched it 163 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: up until the Vikings made their seventh round pick. That's 164 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: how it did to the NFL Draft. 165 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: I am, that's impressive. 166 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if I don't know what was 167 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 4: more impressive seeing you in your I guess air mattress 168 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: in your new house or seeing the glasses of wine 169 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: behind you out. I'm like, this guy has his priorities 170 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: in line. 171 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: Well, my wife hasn't drank in nine years, but she 172 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: makes sure that all the stuff that I have is 173 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: just out and sitting. So if it's if I don't 174 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: drink during the week, but come about this Friday, about 175 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: maybe ten am, which is my five o'clock at night, 176 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: maybe those wineglasses will be in use. 177 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: I loved it. It sounds like she takes good care 178 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: of you. Saw I'm happy. 179 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you very much. Yeah, she does picked 180 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: up with a forty year old. 181 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: Child, right, but a child who's now the draft ex 182 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: where we're talking to for this podcast, and we're excited 183 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: to have you here to talk a little bit more 184 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: about going in depth into the draft as well as 185 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: who the Vikings selected. But going back to that first round, 186 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Vikings moves there, what you thought 187 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: was going to happen, and obviously the pick with Jordan Madison, Well. 188 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: I was convinced from a couple of people that I 189 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: talked to that there was that if Anthony Richardson, the 190 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: quarterback who went to the Colts, got to like six 191 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 3: or seven, that the Vikings would make a move that 192 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: I was convinced of that just the way that they 193 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: kind of set the off season up. But then that 194 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: didn't happen because he went forth. But I thought what 195 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: happened was great because it was one of those things 196 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: where I think there were a lot of fans that 197 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: thought it was going to be quarterback, and I don't 198 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: think it would have mattered who they would have picked 199 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 3: on on Thursday unless it was Will Levis or or 200 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: or Hendon Hooker. Unless it was a quarterback, I think 201 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: people would have been disappointed. But I think it was 202 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: people kind of took a deep breath, and then Friday 203 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: were like, wait a minute, Jordan Addison is a really 204 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 3: good football player, and they lost Adam Thielen, who's also 205 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: a really good football player, and they need that, you know, 206 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: they don't have the depth I think at the wide 207 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: receiver position that they wanted. I think it was a 208 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: great pick. I think the kid will do really, really well. 209 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: I think he was there some people, depending on your 210 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: draft opinion, that thought he was maybe the best player 211 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: in the draft, but or the best wide receiver excuse 212 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: me in the draft, so I don't At first, I 213 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: was like, oh, man, I thought they'd maybe take Joey 214 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: Porter junior. But I thought it was great after you 215 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: sit down and kind of watch his highlights and realize 216 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: that he won the Bolitnik coff at Pittsburgh, which is 217 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: the best wide receiver in the country, and then he 218 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: went to USC and he's caught like twenty five touchdowns 219 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: in his past two years. I think he's going to 220 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: be a really good player. I know that. 221 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 5: Social media wise, there is a video of you reacting 222 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 5: to the pick and just your genuine surprise or shock. 223 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 5: You know, what was it for you in that moment 224 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 5: when you heard the name Jordan Adison kick across the screen. 225 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: Some of the people I talked to said that maybe 226 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: they weren't going to take a wide receiver. I was 227 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: just everybody. I think Vikings fans are kind of just 228 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 3: expecting that every first round pick is going to be 229 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: a cornerback. So I thought, when Joey Porter Junior fell 230 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: to them, I'm like, there's no way they're going to 231 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: pass on. And Brian Flores is a connection to Joey 232 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: Porter's dad. What a great pairing that would be. That 233 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: then you kind of think, well, maybe the NFL's rigged 234 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: and him going to Pittsburgh with the first pick in 235 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: the second round was maybe set up. It wasn't, but 236 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: I just thought, and I think all Vikings just assume 237 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: if we have a first round pick, it's going to 238 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: be a cornerback. That was where my genuine surprise came from. 239 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: But if you bet on it, like a lot of 240 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: people I know do the Vikings all all the whole 241 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: time leading up to the draft, the wide receiver was 242 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: the best, was the number one thing they were going 243 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 3: to draft, according to like DraftKings and all that. Yeah, 244 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: in it to me, it made sense because when you 245 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 3: lose a guy like Adam Thielen. That is a huge, 246 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: huge void. I mean, yeah, he did lose a step, 247 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: he was injured a little bit last year, but he 248 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: was a sure pass catcher. 249 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 4: So wide receiver was, in my opinion, the number one 250 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 4: era of concern as far as how do we continue 251 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: to make this Kevin O'Connell pass happy, offense happy. And 252 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: you get Jordan Addison and then you go get his 253 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: teammate a couple of rounds afterwards, when you look at 254 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: just the Vikings selecting a cornerback position that the Vikings 255 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 4: needed to do so maybe if that was the first second, 256 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: but I guess they did in the third. How excited 257 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 4: were you when they selected Mackay Blackman. I thought it 258 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 4: was a great pick. 259 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: I know, like you know, they always say, you know, 260 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: we would have taken yet ninety one, and who knows. 261 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: It's just things that you can't unprove. But I thought 262 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: a cornerback was something they needed. I thought after they 263 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: went right wide receiver in the first round, I think 264 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: cornerback was kind of a must. And then you get 265 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 3: Jay Ward in the fourth round, a guy who can 266 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: play safety and maybe the nickel position. I think Makai 267 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 3: Blackman will be a good player. I Like I said, 268 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: I've never seen him play. The only reason I've seen 269 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: Jordan Addison play is because of the USC Utah game. 270 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: But I think I think having teammates is good. They'll 271 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: push one another. I think I think black men will 272 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: probably be a pretty good player. And it's a position 273 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: to need that they need it. 274 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 5: I know that when we look at guys like they 275 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 5: filling in and you have a couple of LSU guys 276 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 5: and then you have a couple of USC guys coming 277 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 5: in together, you know it's gonna be kind of an 278 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 5: interesting dynamic there, knowing that they know each other so well. 279 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 5: Is there ever kind of a feeling on your side 280 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 5: when you see teammates going to a team like you know, 281 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 5: Philly drafting a couple of guys in the first round 282 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 5: as well and putting more. 283 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: Of the Georgia Georgia North. 284 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 5: That's the thing that they're putting the band back together 285 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 5: from that championship team. You know, when you look at 286 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 5: those kind of situations, do you ever have feelings about 287 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 5: teammates going together to teams like that? 288 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 3: Well, I think it helps, Like I think a lot 289 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 3: of people forget that. Like I think if like when 290 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: all of us were twenty one, and for Tatum, I 291 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: think that was just a few years ago. But like 292 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: you get people who you know, yeah, thank you, you 293 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 3: get I was like, oh god, what did I say? Anyway, 294 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: you get people that like it's like these are these 295 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: are young men like we A lot of us refer 296 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 3: to them as kids. Like think if all of a 297 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: sudden you were playing football and then the next day 298 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 3: you're like, you're going to Minnesota. I've never been there. 299 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: It helps to like have someone that you know to 300 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 3: kind of like get I mean, this is a big 301 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: step in everybody's life, like I had I was going 302 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: nowhere when I was their age, but like you just 303 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: have people that it's like, yeah, I don't know. I 304 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: think it helps like transition with the big step in life, 305 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: living on your own maybe for the first time, having 306 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: like responsibilities for maybe the first time in your life, 307 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: like a lot of us did at that age. I 308 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 3: think it helps to have just a somebody you know 309 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: that you can talk to about the process. I know 310 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 3: they're making a lot of money and I know they're 311 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: playing a game for a living, but still it's a 312 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: big transition from going you know, from for like a 313 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: black Man and Addison. I mean you go from southern 314 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: California and all of a suddennesa where even today you 315 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: still need a code out. So I think it's a 316 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: big thing. Sorry, no, you're good. 317 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 5: Well for me, Like you know, the thought of having 318 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 5: a Kendricks and Barr even playing the same position. Those 319 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 5: guys had a shorthand when they played together, so there 320 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 5: was a little bit of almost like accelerated bit there 321 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 5: for them where they could just look at each other 322 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 5: and know what each other we're thinking about. So you 323 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 5: have a couple guys in the LSU guys that played defense, 324 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 5: although they're completely separated, but still the idea of having 325 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 5: those guys together to kind of bounce stuff back and forth, 326 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 5: I'm sure is going to be helpful. 327 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: Well, now, LS, you guys have been together for a 328 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: few years now, right, and I mean both guys from 329 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: USC were there for the one year, and we're talking 330 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: about like, like you said, they're so young, like they 331 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: need a little bit. 332 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: I mean, there's still kids at heart. 333 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: So I do think it's funny though that we were 334 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: talking about this the other day in our office area, 335 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: just about how this is starting to be like this 336 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: generation where money is obviously like a big deal when 337 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: you get into league, that's like you're getting paid, you're 338 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: getting your contract. But these guys are making serio money 339 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: from nil deals. Like that's what Jordan Notison wanted to 340 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: get out of USC right, So you so he's coming 341 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: in here already a millionaire. I just find it fascinating 342 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: that that's what we're starting to see in this wave 343 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: of guys coming in and being drafted. 344 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and it's something that I think is 345 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: long overdue. I mean, there's plenty of guys that like, 346 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: I mean, you go back to like the College Football 347 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: video game. I mean, Vince Young was on the cover, 348 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: I think the last one or one of them, and 349 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: it's like they made millions, millions of dollars off his picture, 350 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: his image and likeness, and it's like they didn't pay him. 351 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: And then they, you know, they got in the lawsuit 352 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: I think, and a lot of those guys ended up 353 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 3: getting paid. But like it's the movie The Program, which 354 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: is a great football game, and James CON's character says 355 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: when a guy's about to be suspended, he says, when 356 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 3: was the last time fifty thousand people showed up to 357 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: watch somebody take a science test. Yes, it's about going 358 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: to school, but like, these schools make so much money 359 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: off of these kids, and it's about time they get paid. 360 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 3: But you know, like they he Jordan Addison has a 361 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: lot of money, but it's still now. He has life 362 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: changing money. I mean you, I don't even think you 363 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: can buy eggs with a million dollars at this point, 364 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: but like, these guys have life changing money, and it's 365 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: good to have somebody, you know, along with you to 366 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 3: kind of help you enjoy the ride a little. 367 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: Jaren Hall was an interesting pick for me BYU. Quarterback 368 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 4: comes in a little bit older, but there was a 369 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 4: lot of positives that Quaci and Kevin o'conno said in 370 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 4: their press conference about Jaron Hall. We know quarterback was 371 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 4: going to be an area of concern for the Vikings 372 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: over position of need. When you look at that Jaren 373 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: Hall signing, what were your initial reactions. 374 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: Well, I'll be honest, I'd never heard of him. I 375 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: mean I'd heard of him because it was one of 376 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: those guys where on like a top you know, like 377 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: the top position list that you find on like ESPN 378 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: dot com. But like I'd never really heard of him. 379 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: I think people are kind of excited one any quarterback. 380 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the first round would have been a 381 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: little bit different, but like any round after the first 382 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: round is an exciting time to take a quarterback. And I, 383 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 3: as I said, I don't know a lot about it. 384 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: But he doesn't throw a lot of interceptions. He's very, 385 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: very good, but he didn't throw a ton of passes 386 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 3: at BYU. I think it's like under three hundred passes 387 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 3: or something he threw in his whole career. But I 388 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: think he had like a two year mission because he's Mormon, 389 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: and he went on a two year mission, so that's 390 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: why he's older. But I don't know, like you wonder, 391 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: like you take a guy in the fifth round, it's 392 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 3: not the sixth round, it's not the seventh round, well obviously, 393 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: but like that's that, you know, he's a top one 394 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy pick, Like I would assume if they 395 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: take a guy in that round, he's probably gonna push 396 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: for obviously he's not going to start, but he's going 397 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: to push for the backup role. Yeah, I can't. 398 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 4: I mean, and that's that's kind of what people are expecting, right, 399 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: you know, just a solid backup for Kirk Cousins and 400 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: Tatum and Ron and I talked about, you know, the 401 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 4: having the dynamic of Kevin O'Connell, who was a backup 402 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: quarterback in the NFL, that that only helps accelerates Jared 403 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 4: Hall's game as far as just being that backup and 404 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 4: being that guy that can I guess, keep the keep 405 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: the ball rolling or keep Kirk Cousins on his toes. 406 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 4: When it comes to looking at things from another perspective. 407 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be it'll be interesting just to get like 408 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: another set of eyes in there and the possibility of 409 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: and if if you get something out of him. We 410 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: all know Kirk is on the last year of his contract. 411 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: Have you get something out of him? Who knows? Maybe 412 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: you signed Kirk and then you can trade, you know, 413 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: for a third round Maybe you could trade Jaron Hall 414 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 3: two years from now for a third round pick and 415 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: you make your money back whatever it is. I just 416 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 3: think that I think you should take a quarterback in 417 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: every draft until you have your guy. And I know 418 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: some quarterbacks maybe don't want to do that. There's a 419 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: lot of teams like Kansas City that are going, why 420 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: would we do that? Now? Not every you know, Kansas City, 421 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 3: of course, is an exception to the rule, but like 422 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: it's sometimes I think it's good to take a quarterback 423 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: at least one in every draft just to get a 424 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: new look at somebody, just to see what they got 425 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: in yours in your setting. 426 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 5: One thing for me, the reason why he does intrigue 427 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 5: me even more than where they drafted him at is 428 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 5: his baseball background. You know, that was actually something the 429 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 5: last couple of years, you were looking at a bunch 430 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 5: of guys who came into the league that had baseball 431 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 5: backgrounds as quarterbacks, and guys like your Russell Wilson's, Kyler 432 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 5: Murray's Jamis Winston Tom Brady, Like, there were all these 433 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 5: different people that were playing ball in some aspect, and 434 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 5: I think there is something that translates there, at least 435 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 5: for arm strength. And so for me, it was really 436 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 5: intriguing when when they brought him up, because I had 437 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 5: watched a couple of his games. It'd be like the 438 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 5: late night game because it's the Pacific time zone and 439 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 5: nobody's watching anything else. It's the only thing that's on. 440 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 5: Just in that those games are always so dang late 441 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 5: at night, and you watch a couple times with him, 442 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 5: and like you said, you know, there was a lot 443 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 5: of you know, use on the feet, but when he 444 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 5: did and cork some of those passes, there was some 445 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 5: impressive throws there. So it was something to me that 446 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 5: I've been paying attention going, you know, I wonder how 447 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 5: many guys with baseball backgrounds are going to get drafted 448 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 5: that way, and then all of a sudden we were 449 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 5: the one that picked him that way. 450 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you hope he works out in the arm. Strength 451 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: thing too, is a big thing. If you can throw 452 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: a baseball and you need to be able to throw 453 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 3: it very far and very hard at that sport, you 454 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: could probably throw a football. In the picture that you 455 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: guys have on vikings dot Com of Jaren Hall, he 456 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: has massive hands, which is another thing you look for. 457 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: Don't ask Joe Burrow that. 458 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. 459 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: Mean he's yeah, he's a pretty good idea. 460 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean too. Was there a team that you 461 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: thought won the draft this past weekend? 462 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you look at it, I think 463 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: it's got I mean I think it's got to be 464 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: the Eagles. I mean, you you hear all along And 465 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 3: there were people, plenty of people I talked to that 466 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 3: would you know, if you got Jalen Carter in a 467 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: situation where you knew he would like, if Jalen Carter 468 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 3: had Johnny Randall's effort level, he'd be the first picking 469 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: about any draft you could think of, maybe the Peyton 470 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 3: Manning draft, he wouldn't be the first overall pick in. 471 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 3: The guy's a monster, but you know, he's got some 472 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: off the field issues. And then I heard something after 473 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: the draft, of course, that a lot of the coaches 474 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: at Georgia didn't give him good reviews. But you let, 475 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: of course the Bears thank whoever that he didn't end 476 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: up there. And then you come back and you take 477 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: Nolan Smith and they have all I mean, Jordan, who's 478 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: the guy that the Eagles drafted last years, and now 479 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 3: you have Jalen Carter as your nose tackling your three technique. 480 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 3: I mean the team you know, the rich get richer. 481 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: I think they did very well. I think a team 482 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: that didn't is Houston. And I know they had the 483 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 3: top they had two picks in the top three. But 484 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 3: when you are Houston, you're always bad. You've been bad forever. 485 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: And to move up nine picks, you may have given 486 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 3: up the first overall pick in next year's draft to 487 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: take a very good defensive player, an elite defensive player 488 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 3: in the Williams kid. But you get you gave up 489 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 3: maybe it's going to be a top five pick. There's 490 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: no way the Texans aren't going to be picking in 491 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: the top five. Plus you gave up your second round 492 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: pick in next year's draft, which might be the first 493 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 3: pick in the second round, which is basically a first 494 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: round pick. 495 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: A good point. 496 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like with a guy like Jalen Carter. Yeah, 497 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 4: his his coaches may not have given him the best 498 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 4: I guess grade or whatever you want to call it 499 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 4: to coaches, But at the same time, when you have 500 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 4: a guy in Jordan Davis, a guy that you played 501 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 4: with for the past three years, that kind of helps 502 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 4: that maturity process and having two guys right beside each 503 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 4: other that know each other, I really believe that helps. 504 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: In Yeah, I do. I do agree with you. 505 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 4: The Eagles did win probably the NFL Draft this year, 506 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 4: just I feel like they got better at every single level. 507 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 4: I mean, they got the quarterback that was on the 508 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 4: top thirty visit for the Vikings and Tanner McKee, and 509 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 4: then just throughout the entire draft, We're just like, damn, like, 510 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: how are the Eagles still getting better? 511 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 5: And they traded for the traded for Swift as well, 512 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 5: like the fourth round, but. 513 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: Good for yeah there, how he's been doing some work 514 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 2: over there. 515 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 3: Huh yeah, very good. 516 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: Okay, I have a bone to pick with people or 517 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: not people, just kind of like Twitter in general for 518 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: draft stuff. I think one of the things that bothered 519 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: me about this weekend was so the Vikings don't have 520 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: their round two pick, right, and so it was always like, oh, 521 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: in the round two they draft TJ. Hockinson And I'm like, yeah, 522 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: I know it's and I wanted to get your thoughts 523 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: because it's just it's one of my like quirks, my irks, 524 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: like my pet Peeves is like, there's no drafting going on, 525 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: and if you're gonna like go and say, oh, well, 526 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: I'm going to go trade or you trade for someone, 527 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: so like the Eagles can say, well, with our fifth 528 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: round pick, I don't know what the deal was, but 529 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: let's just say with our fifth round pick, we drafted 530 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift. 531 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: No you didn't, No, you didn't. 532 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 4: But I feel like only Vikings fans do that though 533 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 4: for some reason, make. 534 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: Everyone feel better that you didn't have a second round pick. 535 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I think Minnesotans in general just want to 536 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 3: be included, and we weren't included in the second round. 537 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 3: Minnesotans have just the most foama of all time. They 538 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: are constantly afraid of missing out. And that was it. 539 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: But you know, I think you can sell that though. 540 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: I mean TJ. Hockinson if he were if he were 541 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: picked fifty five or is Nordon and I said this, 542 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 3: this is my what Nordo and I said during our 543 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: third round coverage. If Friday night, we were all sitting 544 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: around and you know, a couple first couple of the 545 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: second round picks go by, and then all of a 546 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: sudden mel Kiper the guys on NFL Network say we 547 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: have a trade, and the Vikings have traded the fifty 548 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: fifth overall pick to the Lions for TJ. Hockinson. We 549 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: would have gone ballistic, like the fans would have been 550 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: so pumpoint. So that's the way that that that norder 551 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 3: when I looked at it. But yeah, drafting, I mean, yeah, 552 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 3: drafting it that way, because then you know, then you 553 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 3: could just do it for every pick, you know, right 554 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 3: then next year the Texans could say, you know, even 555 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: though the Arizona Cardinals drafted Caleb Williams, that's our pick, 556 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: so we did that, and then that would make no sense. 557 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: We didn't. 558 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 5: But that's the thing too. Even with the draft, there's 559 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 5: there is the other side of it too, where we 560 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 5: have the oh, the Russell Wilson trade is officially complete, 561 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 5: and here is all of the draft picks. It's kind 562 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 5: of a similar bit. 563 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 3: We love doing that. 564 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is no knock on Minnesotas. I don't 565 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: want anyone take that the wrong way. 566 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: I met Twitter in general because I saw it in 567 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: multiple places. 568 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: It's not so. This is not me hating on where 569 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 2: we live. 570 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 5: No, it's okay, we're provincial. 571 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 3: This is what we do. This is just how we operate. 572 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 3: So we'll remember that for twenty years and it'll be 573 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 3: brought back up. That's correct. 574 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 4: So you're saying, if if the trade happens on draft day, 575 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 4: you can put that in your Hey, this is who 576 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 4: we drafted we drafted to. Yeah, Okay, if it happens 577 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 4: like middle of the season, you can't do it. 578 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: No, And I just think you, like, there are a 579 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: lot of fans that were mad that they didn't have 580 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 3: a second round pick, but like they didn't just give 581 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 3: it to the Lions or like, you know, he's had 582 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 3: a bad, bad couple of days. The Lions here, like 583 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: they got a Pro Bowl player out of it, who's young, 584 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 3: the same age as the quarterback they drafted in the 585 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: fifth round. Like it's it was. I mean, I think 586 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 3: I think if they'd given up a first round pick 587 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: for TJ. Hawkins, and I think people would be a 588 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: little mad, but I still think it would be worth 589 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: the trade for. 590 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 5: Me, saus. The thing that drives me nuts about some 591 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 5: of this stuff the amount of people that get super 592 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 5: upset over who is picked who is not, and knowing 593 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 5: that they really didn't even pay attention to it till 594 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 5: maybe two weeks before the draft, you know, Just the 595 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 5: amount of people that are like, wait, we missed on 596 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 5: our guy, and they're freaking out, and you're just like, 597 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 5: do you even know who this guy. 598 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 2: Is or what your guy? 599 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 3: Like? 600 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 601 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, they hadn't heard from him, you know, until a 602 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 5: week or two before the draft even started. 603 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: I like throwing people under the bus because that's just 604 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: who I am. But like, and that's another Minnesotan trade 605 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 3: of mine, but like Rosie's the same way Mark Rosen. 606 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: Anytime we have a golf bet and you know, the 607 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: first pick, with the first pick, we pull names out 608 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 3: of a hat and Corey Kob will go, hey, Paris, 609 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 3: you have the first pick, and Rosie go or and 610 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: parishould go, I'll take John Ram and Rosie go, Ah, 611 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: you snipe me. That's not sniping. You don't know when 612 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 3: you're picking. You can't be sniped. If you haven't, it'd 613 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: be one thing. I don't know. It's like those guys 614 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 3: in fantasy drafts. Those guys are gals that are like, oh, 615 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 3: you took the guy wanted. Why the first pick? You 616 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 3: have the ninth pick. There's no way Justin Jefferson was 617 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 3: gonna be there at the ninth pick. No one got 618 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: sniped calmed down, like, yeah, I get it. Like there's 619 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: a lot of because the draft is now trendy, so 620 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 3: people like to be It's like the Dave Matthews band 621 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 3: was when back in the day, but when I liked 622 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: him and then everybody got on board, it's like, I 623 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: don't you know it just it's a thing now yeah, 624 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: but now well yeah, I mean we could do a 625 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 3: whole podcast on that. But it's like, what's another example. 626 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: It's like, uh, I can't think of anything right now 627 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: because I've been up since three thirty. But things, things 628 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 3: become yeah, March badness. It's things that become super popular 629 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 3: are now like everybody has to do, and then a 630 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: week from now you could ask everybody, Hey, who is 631 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 3: the Vikings first round pick? And they'd go the Vikings 632 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 3: had a first round pick. I thought they traded to 633 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 3: the Texans. That's a bad callback, but yeah, you know 634 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: what it is. Yeah, it's just it's a it's just a. 635 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: Trendy now just going around quickly at the NFC North 636 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: at one point you were like, they are really bad 637 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: at drafting. Obviously talking about the other three teams within 638 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: the division. 639 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: I thought the Lions did a good job. 640 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: Well, I was going to have Sauce grade grade them. 641 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 642 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, So before you reveal yours gave Before you reveal yours, Sauce, 643 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: what did you think the Lions did as far as 644 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: draft grades? 645 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: The running back was a weird pick because you could 646 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: have taken Jalen Carter at the sixth pick. You could 647 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: have taken I mean if you I mean there were 648 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 3: so many other players you could have taken. And because 649 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: I work with Corey and we have to admit our mistakes, 650 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: you look at like the Jamiir Gibbs pick at pick twelve. 651 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: I hadn't really heard of him until the day of 652 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: when when PA brought him up as a possibility for 653 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 3: the Vikings at pick twenty three. I thought that was 654 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: a reach. You know. I just think, like, he's he's 655 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 3: a fine player, But like when did I didn't think 656 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: we were all the sudden drafting running backs again. And 657 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: then you go down to where was it? What pick 658 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: did they have? Eighteen? And they take Jack Campbell A 659 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 3: fine but I just there's so many other positions they 660 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: could have taken, or other players they could have taken. 661 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 3: They I mean, they could have taken now we'resy right here. 662 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: They could have taken Elijah Kantsey. A lot of people 663 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: thought they might pick and put them out, put him 664 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: on that amazing defensive line they have. It's just I 665 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: don't know, like I just think sometimes that like they 666 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: you get so wrapped up in these mock drafts that 667 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: you just when they doesn't go that way, or like, ah, 668 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: they're wrong. I thought both of their picks were reaches. 669 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: I thought that the twelfth pick you could have taken 670 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 3: anybody other than the I think you could have gotten 671 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: the running back at the eighteenth pick. I don't know 672 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: why they didn't take I thought they had thought they 673 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: were both reaches for their picks. Yeah. 674 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 5: For me, with the Lions, the biggest question mark right now, 675 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 5: just period is that running back room. Because they went 676 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 5: from having DeAndre Swift, who they liked kind of the 677 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 5: versatility of him, and I know he had some injury 678 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 5: issues and stuff. But on the flip side, now they 679 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 5: basically went and got Montgomery from Chicago, they drafted, you know, 680 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 5: the first round pick, and then on the back end 681 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 5: they signed Moe Ebrahim from the Gophers to one hundred 682 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 5: thousand dollars deal. So like they're completely revamping. And one 683 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 5: thing that's the most interesting to me is how on 684 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 5: the back end of the season last year with the Lions, 685 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 5: they were trending so well and then it feels like 686 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 5: they've kind of flipped the apple cart yet again, and 687 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 5: so everyone's like, Oh, the Lion's gonna be back. They're 688 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 5: going to be a force to be reckoned with, And 689 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 5: you're like, they're gonna have to go through a bunch 690 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 5: of personnel issues just like everybody else's. 691 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna have to, yeah, and then all of 692 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: a sudden, it's gonna it's gonna cost him a lot 693 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,239 Speaker 3: of money. All these young, good rookies that they have 694 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: for the Lions. 695 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think they did reach with Jamiir Gibbs 696 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: and Jack Campbell. But I still like both of those picks, 697 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: especially if your thought process was to give up DeAndre Swift. Yeah, 698 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 4: you probably could have got Jamir Gibbs later and then 699 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 4: I guess later in the first round, and then kept 700 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 4: Jack Campbell at eighteen. But the fact that they got 701 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: Hindon Hooker and Brian Branch a quarterback and a corner 702 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: back for the future. I mean, you lose Jeff Okuda, 703 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 4: and you don't know what Jared Golf is going to 704 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 4: be like in that offense. I really think they didn't 705 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 4: have the worst draft. Their free agency kind of, you know, 706 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 4: makes it seem a little bit better because of how 707 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 4: good they did in free agency this year. But still 708 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 4: they got a lot of young guys. They got younger 709 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 4: in a lot of different positions, and you know, you 710 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 4: extend alex enzelone that linebacker, and then you bring in 711 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 4: a rookie linebacker to go with Malcolm Rodriguez, Like, yeah, 712 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 4: Jalen Carter would have been nice, but I'm so glad 713 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 4: he's not in our division right now. 714 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: Oh for sure. 715 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: But I think that's I think that's why people have 716 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: like a polarizing opinions on what the lines did, because 717 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: they were a little shocked at going for positions that 718 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: they had signed, intentionally signed veterans at in free agency, 719 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: thinking that those positions were locked up, and then being like, oh, JK, 720 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: like here we are just going for the same thing, 721 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: you know. So I think that was kind of like 722 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: the reason behind it. What about the Bear sauce? What 723 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: do you think about the Bears? 724 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 3: I thought, well, when you moved from one to nine, 725 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 3: I thought that was good. I don't know why they 726 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 3: didn't sit at nine and take Jalen Carter. I'm glad 727 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 3: that both our division foes passed on him, But I 728 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: don't get why you take Darnell right, a right tackle 729 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: with the tenth overall pick. When Scarnsky, the guy from 730 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 3: Northwestern was there, you could have taken him. I think 731 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: Roderick Jones, who went pick fourteen would be a would 732 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: have been a much better pick. I don't know how 733 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: you can spend the tenth overall pick on a just 734 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: a right tackle. I think that's a weird. I mean, 735 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: they have so many needs, and I know their offensive 736 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: line is bad, but I thought that was a reach. 737 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 3: I didn't really get that pick. But the Bears also, 738 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: you know they're going to have They've collected a ton 739 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 3: of picks because I would assume they have Carolina's pick 740 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: from next for next year, and that will most likely 741 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 3: be a high pick. So I just think they maybe thought, well, 742 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: maybe next year we're going to have two high first 743 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: round picks again and we'll just reload again. 744 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 5: Three of their first four picks were on defense two 745 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 5: and two of them were defense of tackles. So like 746 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 5: they've recognized, you know, the vaunted Bears defense that they 747 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 5: had for the previous few seasons that basically got dismantled 748 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 5: in the last two seasons. They're kind of trying to 749 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 5: rewrite that ship for them too. I just feel like 750 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 5: with Chicago, you know, even last year, in the fact 751 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 5: that they did have the number one pick. This year, 752 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 5: you know, there's so many things for them that they 753 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 5: just need to do a complete reset, and it feels 754 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 5: like they're on pace to do that. But they're going 755 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 5: to be another team that's going to be on the 756 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 5: come up. It's just going to take them, I think, 757 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 5: probably a couple of seasons to get there. 758 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: That's okay, yeah, correct, that's totally fine. And then obviously 759 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: we need to talk about the Packers. 760 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: H Lucas Vanass massive reach. I don't know why you would. 761 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 3: I just the Packers make no sense. Obviously they know 762 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: what they're doing, I guess, but they how do you 763 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: not give your young wide receive or your young quarterback 764 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 3: a wide receiver or a tight end? How do you 765 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: not how do you let Jackson Smith and Jigma go 766 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: past you, Quintin Johnston, Say Flowers or Jordan Abbas and 767 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 3: go past you and you take a like a linebacker 768 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 3: slash pass rusher Lucas Vans from Iowa, which is another 769 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 3: way too high of a pick for an Iowa guy. 770 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 3: And then we got in this argument on Saturday when 771 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: Nordo and I were doing the show on Kfan. How 772 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: do I don't understand why they took Sean Clifford, Like 773 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 3: you have a guy who Jordan Love, who has been 774 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: on this team with Rogers, who every move is calculated 775 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 3: by Rogers. He ripped the pick right away when they 776 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: took him. Anytime Rogers got an opportunity to rip Jordan 777 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 3: Love or rip the fact that they took a quarterback 778 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 3: when they didn't need one. And now I know, I 779 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 3: know Sean Clifford will probably never play, but it just 780 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 3: it seems super weird that you wouldn't just let this 781 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: draft go by and not take a quarterback, just let 782 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: Jordan Love have the team for at least one off season. 783 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 3: It just didn't make any sense. Now you bring in 784 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: a new person into the quarterback room. It was just 785 00:34:59,239 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 3: a weird move. 786 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: It was interesting, definitely an interesting move. 787 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 5: But see they've done that in the past. I know 788 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 5: Patriots did that kind of stuff too, where they would 789 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 5: have top tier quarterbacks and behind, you know, their superstuds 790 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 5: that were sitting there, and they could, similar to what 791 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 5: you said earlier, they could use them as draft capital 792 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 5: to trade them away and try to get some other. 793 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: People in the stature. But any of these are tough. 794 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 5: But that's the thing with Sean Clifford, Like being at 795 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 5: Penn State, you're not quite sure because it's a fifth 796 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 5: round pick. Again, you're kind of trying to set yourself 797 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 5: up in case there is something there. And I think 798 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 5: the most telling thing is the fact that their front 799 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 5: office has been still kind of hedging their bets when 800 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 5: it comes to you know, is Jordan Love the guy. 801 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 5: They're not completely all in there. They've they've given him 802 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 5: the reins, but what they've been saying publicly as well 803 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 5: has been Yeah, it's been kind of this weird mishmash 804 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 5: of them kind of going, yeah, he's the guy, but 805 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 5: we're not quite sure if he's the guy, and it's weird. 806 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 2: I have the quote. I have the quote here. 807 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,479 Speaker 1: So he signed that extension, right, So it's a twenty 808 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: two million dollars, one year deal, thirteen and a half 809 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: million fully guaranteed. It's not a fifth year option, it's 810 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: just the one year extension. Brian said. It's a lot 811 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: of money for a guy who hasn't played. But at 812 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: the same time, obviously we're moving forward with him. 813 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 5: What a ringing endorsement. 814 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: He's the guy in charge. 815 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 5: Recording to the Matt Lafleur, is he the quarterback? Yes, 816 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 5: he is our quarterback. And that's about all I'm going 817 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 5: to say about that is what he says. It's just 818 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 5: that's the thing. Yeah, it's weird, but I don't it's 819 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 5: kind of their mo They're going to go and try 820 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 5: to find guys like that and if they work out, great, 821 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 5: and if they don't, they're trying to find some sort 822 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 5: of a you know, backup parachute here in case the 823 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 5: one that they got doesn't work. 824 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: Who wants to be the Packers GM when the quarterback 825 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: fails because it hasn't happened in what thirty years? 826 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 3: Thirty years? Yeah, correct, you're instantly going to get fired. 827 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 5: Instantly, and that's it. But that's the thing is, I 828 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 5: think they kind of feel like they're the quarterback gurus 829 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 5: and the whispers. They're the ones that can find all 830 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 5: these guys and feel like, well, we nailed two Hall 831 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 5: of Famers in a row here, you know what's going 832 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 5: to happen. We're just I think there is a feeling 833 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 5: by Packer fans of people that I know that they're 834 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 5: just like, yeah, we're just going to do it again. 835 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 5: And there's this feeling of we're going to go from 836 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 5: fifteen years to thirty years to forty five years of 837 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame quarterbacking, and I am very interested and 838 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 5: hoping that that does not happen. 839 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: I think the funniest part about this whole thing with 840 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: them is not only are they just not all in 841 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: on Jordan Love from what it sounds like, they also 842 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: have forty over forty million dollars in dead money from 843 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers' contract as he goes to the Jets and 844 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: is about to be joined by Randall Cobb. 845 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: News breaking this morning. 846 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: I think I saw it first for Adam Schefter, but 847 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if anyone else had it. 848 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 2: They're just putting the band back the one year deal. 849 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 4: I just like for Aaron Rodgers to go on Pat 850 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 4: McAfee's show and say he didn't give the Jets any 851 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 4: request for any guys that he wanted, but literally. 852 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 3: Diane or whatever diet was, she's the basketball player. Yeah, yeah, 853 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 3: he just destroyed that woman on ESPN. Right. 854 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, what are we doing? So we'll see. 855 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 4: I'm just glad the Packers won't be as good as 856 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 4: they once were? 857 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: Oh are you talking about Diana Racini? 858 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 3: He just destroyed. I was like, what are we what 859 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 3: are you said? 860 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 2: Laughing right now? Being like okay, bro, and Randall Cobb. 861 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 3: The problem with it is Randall Cobb's terrible like Randon. 862 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 3: It would be like if all of a sudden, you 863 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 3: guys got breaking news from radio dot com and it 864 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 3: was like meat sauce, Paul Lambert is going to go 865 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 3: on the Howard Stern Show because his dad's Howard Stern's lawyer. 866 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 3: You'd be like, what, Paul's awful at radio? What? Like? 867 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 3: Randall Cobb doesn't belong in the league like that, He 868 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 3: just doesn't. He was bad last He's been bad for years. 869 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 3: But he's boys with Rogers, So you know, it's not 870 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 3: what you know, it's who you know. Randall Cobb wouldn't 871 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 3: be on any maybe Houston. He just doesn't belong in 872 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 3: any team. He's just bad. It just I don't I 873 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 3: don't get it. I mean, is Jordy Nelson not available? 874 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 5: They just trading one green jersey for another one? 875 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 3: Correct? Wait? 876 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: My takeaway from this is is your dad actually Howard 877 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: Stern's lawyer? 878 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't see here. If he was, it would 879 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 3: be great. I mean not that it would be great 880 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 3: not to be sitting here, but no, hease not Noel, 881 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 3: we feel the love. Yeah, No, it would be sweet. 882 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: That would be sweet. Well, we really are. 883 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: We're really happy that you were able to do this 884 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: podcast with us, just a little bit of a deep 885 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: dive into the draft post everything. I feel like we've 886 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: talked about this for so many days now, and we 887 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: appreciate you staying up a little bit longer with us, 888 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: because I know you said you've been up since three thirty. 889 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: We're recording this at like what nine ten am, right 890 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: after your show, so we appreciate your time sas Thanks guy. 891 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always great. All three of you are great 892 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 3: at what you do. Don't let anybody tell you any different. 893 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 3: It's an honor to be on this podcast. Thank you 894 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 3: very much. Thanks Thanks Ausie. 895 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: I can live on that compliment for the rest of 896 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 2: the week. 897 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 3: Thanks Buddy,