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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily on FIFESP

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Ziggura. Oh,

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Speaker 1: let's do it live on a sun kiss Tuesday at

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Speaker 1: this ship of Cleveland Browns Daily. Merely bow the great Z.

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Speaker 1: How you living, buddy? I'm doing fine, getting ready for

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Speaker 1: the fog to roll in. I got some advice. Yes,

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Speaker 1: certainly in our neck of the woods you have big

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Speaker 1: fog advice. We were like, like, we have one nice

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Speaker 1: it's not even warm out, but just like one sun kiss. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I could do. I'll play golf today, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think I'll be able to. But yeah, apparently that's what's

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Speaker 1: happening tomorrow. Chance of rain Thursday, chance of rain Friday,

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Speaker 1: can't mixing, you know. But then the following week seventy

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Speaker 1: sixty four. So maybe this is the weekend. It's gotta

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Speaker 1: be it. It's gotta be it. Maybe we turned the court,

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Speaker 1: it's gotta be it. Um the Masters Tiger Tigers in Rock.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys watch Gimmy? Did you watch or no,

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Speaker 1: you said no, you hung with you said no, no.

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Speaker 1: I only watched the end and it was the most

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Speaker 1: stupefying last minute. Interesting go through if you will, the

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Speaker 1: few moments that you found so stupefying in the last

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Speaker 1: minute of the game, Bill Self, decision making, Hubert Davis screaming,

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Speaker 1: baskets missed baskets, Kansas win. It was interesting. So you're

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Speaker 1: you're blaming the the incidents in the last minute on self. No, No,

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Speaker 1: that people take personal responsibility. He took self out of context.

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Speaker 1: That just the coach, how close you could get. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you didn't watch any of it. That's amazing to me.

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Speaker 1: You love hoops. I I just didn't care because a

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Speaker 1: duke or just no, huh, Like I did not want

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Speaker 1: to see North Carolina way. I want to Season two

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Speaker 1: kicks off, brings it. It was an incredible game, an

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Speaker 1: incredible game. It had everything come. It's been a hell

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Speaker 1: of a tournament. I mean, the tournament has been great.

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Speaker 1: This is I would this is the third best sporting

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Speaker 1: event that's run by the third worst people. So the

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Speaker 1: only people worse than the n C Double A or

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Speaker 1: the IOC and FIFA, Like that's it. Those are the

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Speaker 1: two there one in one A and then the n

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Speaker 1: C Double A is c in terms of the worst humans.

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Speaker 1: They run the best tournament. Um, they can't do any

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Speaker 1: thing except run this tournament, and for three weeks from

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Speaker 1: Thursday to Sunday and in this case, Saturday and Monday,

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Speaker 1: it delivers theater that is unmatched in anything in sport.

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Speaker 1: It's more dramatic than anything you see. And that is

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Speaker 1: a one off. It's one time. It's not the NBA

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Speaker 1: where the best team wins best to seven. It's not

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Speaker 1: even even NFL, where the physicality of it there is

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Speaker 1: the best teams can wear other teams down. Sure, crazy

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Speaker 1: things happen in the league, crazy things happen in college waball.

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Speaker 1: But most times the best teams win. In this sport

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Speaker 1: and in this entity, that almost rarely happens. The best

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Speaker 1: team rarely wins. Oftentimes you're in a position like you

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Speaker 1: were last night, where there weren't that many people who

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Speaker 1: pick Kansas to win it. They were a one seed,

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Speaker 1: but they were probably the weakest of the three ones

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Speaker 1: in most people's eyes, and they were playing an eight

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Speaker 1: for the national title. And it was thrilling. The Saturday

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Speaker 1: stuff was thrilling. Last night was thrilling. Fift point lead

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Speaker 1: for Caroline at half, Kansas rushes back. So YouTube not

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Speaker 1: good enough. I don't blame it. It's fine, like if

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Speaker 1: you're not. It's one of those things. I do think this,

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Speaker 1: and and it was my favorite sporting event as a kid.

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Speaker 1: I had a decision to make last night, their favorite

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Speaker 1: still engaged. So the oldest is Kentucky, my middle boy

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Speaker 1: They're not They've been good enough in the last decade.

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Speaker 1: This year, but how do you watch how you watch

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Speaker 1: now you you, I'm gonna explain to you what happened.

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Speaker 1: Kansas is up one. With about forty seconds to go

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Speaker 1: you they're wide open three years against score. They did not.

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Speaker 1: They waited. The guard for Kansas waited for Baycott to

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Speaker 1: I've never seen it like, no matter what age basketball,

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Speaker 1: seen it. That makes no sense to me. What was

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Speaker 1: but it's you know, it's fifteen seconds go score, cut

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, baby, Simon Dickerson. Yeah, let's go. That Kansas

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Speaker 1: team was thirty four and one. That Arizona team beat Kansas,

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Speaker 1: sitting like third row courtside for Arizona Providence, which was

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Speaker 1: god sham got an. Austin Crozier in Arizona won that

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Speaker 1: not diminishing. I'm just saying like the idea, like, can

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Speaker 1: So like that's that's the type of teams that those were.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore saying, hey, the team that just represented the a

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Speaker 1: they just added to their offensive line. The Browns just

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Speaker 1: added to Shaun Watson. We don't have a counter for that.

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Speaker 1: So right now, as much as we love Lamar, we

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Speaker 1: can't win the Super Bowl with him. Let's get three

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Speaker 1: ones and a couple of players from Philly and that

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Speaker 1: they would be I mean, they already have nine picks

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Speaker 1: in the first four rounds going into this. They have

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Speaker 1: five fourth rounders. Okay, I mean what I guess it's

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Speaker 1: you can move those around. You're not gonna this ain't

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Speaker 1: this is an Arizona To me, it's not Kyler. I

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Speaker 1: don't see any scenariya where Arizona is moving off with

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Speaker 1: Kyler right now. If you if you trade Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: right now, then you don't have a franchise period. I

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Speaker 1: mean you don't. They took you gotta move Arizona out

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Speaker 1: of the desert. Then if you can't, you gotta force

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Speaker 1: ownership of the team. If you can't keep Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: you picked him number one overall. He's two years in

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Speaker 1: the quarterback picked the coach picked him. If you don't,

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Speaker 1: if you can't keep him happy, then what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Why are you trying? Maybe he is a Malkinson who knows. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's to me. Their only chance is Lamar, though I

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Speaker 1: don't Kyler thing for the You're far too you're you're

447
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Speaker 1: too far away from the like. Maybe next year Kyler

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Speaker 1: he goes terrible. Maybe after next year you trade Kyler.

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Speaker 1: But now two years in they were a playoff team. Yeah, listen,

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Speaker 1: I think Kyler is quite good. I think he's quite good.

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Speaker 1: It's it'll something is gonna The Eagles are doing this

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Speaker 1: for some reason, no question, and I think to your point,

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Speaker 1: it is now they could say in that stretch we

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Speaker 1: have two ones, Well give you a future one and

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Speaker 1: we're able to go up and maybe make a move

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Speaker 1: for a C. J. Stroud. But that's something that you're

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Speaker 1: really banking. I think it's much easier when you can

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Speaker 1: get a guy as you saw Denver do for Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: as we did for Deshaun Watson. It's much easier to

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Speaker 1: do that. And in the case of of Watson or

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Speaker 1: in the case of Kyler or Lamar, they're still young

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Speaker 1: Wilson's a decade in the league, longer than all those guys.

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Speaker 1: But I would much rather if I'm if, if this

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Speaker 1: is the way the NFL is gonna go, and and

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Speaker 1: you know, you have a sense that with the guaranteed

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Speaker 1: money situations, that maybe Justin Herbert doesn't stay with the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: maybe Joe Burrow doesn't stay with the Bengals because of

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Speaker 1: the financial ramifications on those family run companies that aren't

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Speaker 1: backed by basically another company where they made all their money.

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Speaker 1: I think it presents some interesting scenarios because you remember

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Speaker 1: around the NBA you would have teams that would load

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Speaker 1: up and free all their cap space to make the runs.

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Speaker 1: At the huge free agency. They could offer supermax deals

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Speaker 1: and YadA, YadA, YadA, Lebron's good freegent let's everybody are

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Speaker 1: all their space. I wonder if you'll start seeing that

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, with teams accumulating assets saying all right,

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Speaker 1: if it does become the situation that Burrow is not available,

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Speaker 1: Burrow won't be staying with the Bengals, that Herbert won't

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Speaker 1: be staying with the Chargers, or whoever you know these people,

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Speaker 1: maybe people who I can make that trade, being positioned

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Speaker 1: to have the roster that they would want to go to,

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Speaker 1: and giving yourself the assets to be able to make

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Speaker 1: the moves we're I think we're entering in a new era.

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Speaker 1: And it might not be that it could in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: This is just theoretical, but it could be that it's

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Speaker 1: not Cliff's fault and it's not Bidwell's fault. Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: may just decide, Hey, I'm I don't like this. I'd

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Speaker 1: rather be somewhere else. Well, he's the only one at

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Speaker 1: the true leverage because he has the baseball thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: because you could just franchise him forever um. So he

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Speaker 1: does have that leverage to it. Well, ask the Bengals

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Speaker 1: question to Kelsey Conway. She joins us coming up next

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Speaker 1: we head up down rather to Cincinnati for a visit

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Speaker 1: with Bengals beat reporter Kelsey Conway on The Inquirer or

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Speaker 1: beat follower at Kelsey L. Conway on Twitter. Kelsey, let's

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Speaker 1: let's start here. Um. From a from an objective of

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Speaker 1: general manager, I would think the one thing you want

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Speaker 1: to do is going to the draft without being encumbered

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Speaker 1: of something you have to do, And it seems like

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Speaker 1: they did that. They addressed offensive line about as big

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Speaker 1: away as possible. Uh. Talk us through their process and

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Speaker 1: how they ended up where they ended up on the

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Speaker 1: offensive one. It was a quick one because, as you

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Speaker 1: all know, the NFL calendar moved fast, and they had

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Speaker 1: about two weeks from the end of the season to

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Speaker 1: the start of free agency, and in that time they

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Speaker 1: met and realized that when they were gonna start the

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Speaker 1: free agent process, they're really going to focus on the

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Speaker 1: interior offensive line. Um. Obviously the offensive line as a whole,

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Speaker 1: the protection issues were well documented throughout the season. Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow being sacked, you know, seven times in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: I think really put a glaring um need there for

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Speaker 1: the team, and they decided we're going to go after

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Speaker 1: Alex Campa, high targeted player and free agency, who obviously

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Speaker 1: protected Tom Brady and Tampa. And then Ted Carriss, who

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Speaker 1: also protected Tom Brady but for a different team up

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Speaker 1: in New England. Harris is going to be the center. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's played both guard and center. But then they weren't done. Um,

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Speaker 1: they still had a major hole to fill at right tackle.

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Speaker 1: And obviously when the Lyle Collins trade rumors started to swirl,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals were in obvious destination place because of the

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Speaker 1: connection to Bengals offensive line coach Frank Pollock. And even

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Speaker 1: though it took a couple of days, it worked itself out.

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Speaker 1: They didn't even have to give up the draft pick

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Speaker 1: to trade for him after the Cowboys released him. So

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Speaker 1: three key spots along the offensive line filled with new

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Speaker 1: starters in free agency, and then on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, the plan was really to resign players

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Speaker 1: that they wanted to sign. They weren't able to keep

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Speaker 1: Larry Ogan job but they did resign b J. Hill

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Speaker 1: and Eli Apple, and I know they're pretty excited about

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Speaker 1: those two. But for the most part, free agency will

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Speaker 1: be summed up with what the Bengals did to try

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Speaker 1: and protect Joe Burrow better moving forward. Yea, And they

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Speaker 1: certainly accomplished that, I would say, very very well, getting

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Speaker 1: those three players, as you talked about on their line

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Speaker 1: and you look through who's the partying. A lot of

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Speaker 1: times when you run make a run to the super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a significant, you know, exodus of talent.

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Speaker 1: You can't afford to keep everybody. But there really aren't

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Speaker 1: a lot of big names on this Obviously Larry Ogunjobi

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Speaker 1: were very familiar with him. You know, c j Uzoma

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Speaker 1: goes to the Jets, but you bring in Hayden Hurst

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Speaker 1: who had been with the Baltimore Ravens, trade to the

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Speaker 1: Falcons and now back in the a f C North.

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Speaker 1: Really not a lot of talent has departed this Bengals team,

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Speaker 1: and so they've got to be feeling pretty good as

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Speaker 1: you get into this draft in terms of what the

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Speaker 1: needs are, what what needs jump out to you as

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Speaker 1: those that really remain for this team. Yeah, trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out my mock draft right now is um a

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Speaker 1: little bit more difficult than it's been in the year's

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Speaker 1: past because there's a couple of needs, UM, but they're

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Speaker 1: mostly depths needs at this point. I think cornerback is

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Speaker 1: probably the biggest need for this team to play the

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Speaker 1: number two cornerbacks that's going to be playing opposite of

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Speaker 1: kit Obeo Lousier. I'm obviously the Bengals spend money to

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Speaker 1: sign him in Mike Hilt until you've got your spot

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Speaker 1: in your number one cover corner um taking care of

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Speaker 1: But that second cornerback playing outside, um, I think is

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Speaker 1: a position that they'll target early in the draft. But

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Speaker 1: then you look at some other places that they could

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Speaker 1: potentially add. I think linebacker they they'll need to continue

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Speaker 1: to add depth there. Um Logan Wilson and Jermaine Pratt

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Speaker 1: or two players are really excited about younger players, But

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Speaker 1: I could see them adding another linebacker early on, and

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Speaker 1: then obviously offensive line. I mean, you can never have

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Speaker 1: too many. Would they address center obviously, I told you

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Speaker 1: they added Ted Carris in free agency, but he's twenty

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Speaker 1: nine years old, so would they draft his replacement to

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Speaker 1: kind of be Grooms under him for the next two years.

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Speaker 1: I could definitely see that. But I would say, right now,

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Speaker 1: if you had to put my money on where they

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Speaker 1: go in the first round, if they have a corner

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Speaker 1: that they like that's available at pick thirty one, I

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Speaker 1: think they take him. But I also wouldn't be shocked

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Speaker 1: at the Angles trade out of the first round and

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Speaker 1: just keep acquiring more picks. Elsey Conway, our guest, covers

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Speaker 1: the Bengals for the Inquirer down in Cincinnati. Kelsey that

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Speaker 1: there's a last couple of off seasons now where the

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Speaker 1: Bengals have been really aggressive in free agency. This is

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Speaker 1: something that they didn't do for years. But I think

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Speaker 1: the drafting of Borough goes a long way of hey,

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Speaker 1: we got a guy here, like, let's let's go. And

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Speaker 1: I've heard some of the comments about potentially exploring an

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Speaker 1: indoor facility down there, um with Katie Blackburn. Now kind

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Speaker 1: of feeling like at the forefront of that operation, are

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Speaker 1: you seeing the Bengals step up the way that that

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Speaker 1: other NFL teams have in regard to just how how

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Speaker 1: they treat NFL players and and treating the organization of

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Speaker 1: the way that that many others in the league do. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I actually spoke to Katie down at owners meetings last

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Speaker 1: week and she's straight up admitted they have changed their

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Speaker 1: philosophy and free agency. And when I asked, you know why,

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Speaker 1: she said, we just looked at everything and tried to

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Speaker 1: find ways to improve, and free agency was Maria that

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Speaker 1: they targeted as an area that they felt they needed

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Speaker 1: to improve. And you know, everyone will talk about you

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Speaker 1: last year, but it goes back to even the year

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Speaker 1: before when the team spent a ton of money on

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Speaker 1: DJ Reader Um, who obviously got injured in his first season,

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Speaker 1: but that was kind of the start of this change

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Speaker 1: in philosophy of acquiring players, and they've done most of

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Speaker 1: their signings on the defensive side of the ball um,

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Speaker 1: starting with DJ Reader, but then acquiring Von Bell in

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Speaker 1: that year too um, and then moving on to last year,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned Hilton and a Woozier, but then Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 1: He was a game changer for the Bengals in this

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Speaker 1: last year. If they didn't have Trey Hendrickson, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to say how many games they would have won.

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Speaker 1: He was that good. Playing with Sam Hubbard off the edge.

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Speaker 1: They really have changed their philosophy, and I think Burrow

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Speaker 1: does have a lot to do with it. But I

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Speaker 1: think the Bengals that, you know, they realized, we we

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Speaker 1: need to go after some players in free agency. And

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Speaker 1: I know that the draft is very important to the franchise,

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Speaker 1: but I think they've seen, Okay, we can get some

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Speaker 1: of these impact play years. And they've always been very

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Speaker 1: cap conscious um, so I think they've sprinkled in some

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Speaker 1: very good free agents. They have players that they like

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Speaker 1: that they've drafted that I know they want to keep,

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Speaker 1: like Jesse Bates, players like that that are kind of

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Speaker 1: homegrown talent. But from a free agency standpoint, they have

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Speaker 1: changed their philosophy over the last three years, and it

636
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: seems to be working. Talking with Kelsey Conway, the Bengals

637
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: beat reporter for the Cincinnati Inquirer, and yet it certainly

638
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: is working. A trip to the Super Bowl. Would say

639
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: that they often talk about a Super Bowl hangover, and

640
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: I know it is very early, but what's kind of

641
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: just the overall kind of atmosphere or mood, you would say,

642
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: around a team that got so close to achieving the

643
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: ultimate dream but unfortunately came up just a little bit short.

644
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a very optimistic approach in the off

645
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: season so far. But I think Zach Taylor has done

646
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: a really good job with his messaging and saying, you know,

647
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to start completely from scratch next year.

648
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: If they think that they're just going to get to

649
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: where they were, but I year, by doing the same thing,

650
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. And you know, as you know,

651
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: it is so hard to get back to the super

652
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: Bowl year after year. That's why there's rarely the same

653
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: winner year after year. But the Bengals, things just kind

654
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: of really worked out. They got hot at the right time. Um,

655
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: but they started playing their best football in December. And

656
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: I think that Zach Taylor knows, look, a lot of

657
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: things have to fall into place for it to all

658
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: work out. That you can only control what you can control.

659
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: And I think this locker room is full of a

660
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: bunch of really unselfish players. Um, it's a young core,

661
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: and I think that they there's not like a sense

662
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: of arrogance and they think that they'll just show up

663
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: and you know, win the division again. I think this

664
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: team understands just how good they have seen North is

665
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: and just how hard it is to get where they

666
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: got last year. So I think there's a optimism, but

667
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: I also think it's careful optimism, and it's going to

668
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: be very calculated in their approaches. Zach Taylor made a

669
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: decision to move the off season program back two weeks

670
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: to continue to give his players more rest because of

671
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: that long season that they had, and they're actually the

672
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: last team to start their off season program. Despite the

673
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: Rams winning um, the Bengals still are going to be

674
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: the last team to start. So I think he's taking

675
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: a very calculated approach with how to kind of get

676
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: this team over the hump of what happened and get

677
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: them back in a position where they can try and

678
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: contend again. I was gonna ask you about Burrow circling

679
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: back to him. I saw some of the reporting of

680
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: of how integral he was and recruiting free agents. Um,

681
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, obviously he's in Ohio and it grew up

682
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: in Athens. What what is does is he in Cincinnati

683
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: in the off season? How president is he around the facility,

684
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: around the organization, How big of a role does he

685
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: play and in where the Bengals go going forward? Obviously

686
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: taking apart what he does on the field, which is extraordinary. Yeah,

687
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: he's definitely around in Cincinnati in the off season, and uh,

688
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: I think he can be summed up in this. When

689
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: asked about like Joe Row's involvement, Zach Taylor said, basically,

690
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: Burrow just texted Taylor and said, how can I help

691
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: what you need? And the next thing you know, Joe

692
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: Burrows hosting Lyle Collins, uh Kappa Kera's and Hayden Hurst

693
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: over to his house on a Friday night in March

694
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: just to hang out to talk football. Um, apparently there

695
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: were some crackers and cupcakes involved at Burrow's house. But

696
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: he's just a very uh professional pros pro when it

697
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: comes to all he wants to do is win and um,

698
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't do anything fancy. He's not whining and dining. Um. People,

699
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: there was a dinner at Jeff Ruby's, but that was

700
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: more about Zach Taylor kind of taking the new offensive

701
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: lineman to the team. Joe Burrow showed up in sweatpants. Um,

702
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: he's around, he's present, and he's just willing to do

703
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: whatever he can to do. And uh, Lyle Collins told

704
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: us that Joe Burrow kind of a text before he

705
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: signed his contract and said to just sign the contract

706
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: yet so he's continued to check in. So I think

707
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: he does everything that you need a franchise quarterback to do.

708
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: He's involved, he wants to acquire players that can help

709
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: his human and he understands his importance in all of it.

710
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: And for being just the third year player, I think

711
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: the leadership role he's taken on, he kind of reminds

712
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: you of guys like Tom Brady when you know, you

713
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: hear the stories of him getting involved and calling free

714
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: agents right when they sign. Um. It's shades of that

715
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: here with Joe Burrow, which I think is a big reason,

716
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: um why this team looks to have such a bright future.

717
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: He is quite good, that Joe Burrow, and in a

718
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: loaded a f C. Now you think about all the

719
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that have kind of come into this conference, even

720
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: into the division, uh, and what that looks like going forward,

721
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: It's going to be I think a lot of fun

722
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: to see over the few years. I was just curious

723
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati because one of the teams that people talked

724
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: about when the Browns gave DeShawn Watson two and thirty

725
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed, and what that means for the S

726
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: grows for the owners and all of that. One of

727
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: the names that came up was, you know, what would

728
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: the Bengals do with Joe Burrow when the time aim

729
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: for a contract that big is That's something that has

730
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: started to get talked about at all in Cincinnati. Yeah,

731
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: and Katie Burns, Katie Blackburn was asked about it last week.

732
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: She said, look, all contracts have ripple effects. She didn't

733
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: um at that moment, she hadn't had a chance to

734
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: go quite through the details of Deshaun Watson's contract, but

735
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: she's fully aware of what was taken place, what was guaranteed. Um.

736
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: But I think the thing with the Bengals is is

737
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: they know what's coming down the pike and they're starting

738
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: to plan for Joe Burrow. They predict with the salary

739
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: cap number is going to be. And I think that's

740
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: why they were very calculated in free agency and why

741
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: I think this whole Jesse Bates situation is going to

742
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: get interesting because they know that in the next year

743
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: or two they're going to have to pay Burrow that

744
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: big time contract. So I think they're trying to be

745
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: very capt conscious. But they've also stated they know, um,

746
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: what's coming. But I will say that I don't get

747
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: the I obviously know that Joe Burrow is gonna want

748
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: to make every diamond he can, but I don't envision him, uh,

749
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, wanting or meeting, you know, that type of

750
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: contract that puts his team in an uncomfortable place. Like

751
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: I kind of mentioned Tom Brady, I could see Joe Burrow, Um,

752
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how the details of it

753
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: would work out, but I would say I think he's

754
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: the type of player that he's not gonna make it

755
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: all about himself. He's going to get absolutely what he deserved.

756
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: But I think they'll be able to find a sweet

757
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: spot there because he loves playing in Ohio. The Bangles

758
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: absolutely love him. They understand he is the franchise for

759
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: the next decade of years to come. So I think

760
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: that Deshaun Watson a contract is definitely gonna impact some

761
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: of these deals coming down. But I will be very

762
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: interested to see because I know it's something the Bengals

763
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: are definitely keeping at the top of mind, and it's

764
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: it's going to affect what they do with some players

765
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: that I know that they like they just can't keep

766
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: in the next couple of years. Kelsey great stuff. Thanks

767
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: for your time today. Absolutely all right. That's Kelsey Conway

768
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: covers the Bengals for the Cincinnati Inquire. Um. I asked

769
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: you that question about Burrow because that's what you that's

770
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback, so you do. That's exactly what what

771
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: can I do to help? How can I help? He

772
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: is exactly what you want. He's everything that you want

773
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: out of a quarterback and a franchise face of the franchise.

774
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: He's been looking take them to the super Bowl in

775
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: his second season, and it's gonna be tough to get back,

776
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: not just for him, but for any team in the

777
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: a f C. The Browns are loaded, the Bengals are loaded.

778
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: The Ravens feel like they are are loaded, although some

779
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: changes could be coming there. But the Bills are loaded.

780
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: The Chiefs feel like they are loaded, and they haven't

781
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: gotten to the draft yet after the trade of Tyreek Hill.

782
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: I mean that entire division. The Broncos would say that,

783
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: the Chargers are definitely are loaded. The Raiders feel like

784
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: they're loaded. I mean it is and it's just a

785
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: division that or a conference. I'm sorry that is full.

786
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: As we said, thirteen legit teams that think they're today

787
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. Only seven will eight teams that

788
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: absolutely today think they can win the Super Bowl. Maybe

789
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: none of them will. It's it's a stunning lee loaded conference.

790
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: But you've gotta feel like the Bengals much and it

791
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: feels like something that Andrew Barry would do. They needed

792
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: to address their offensive line. Just as Barry got Jed

793
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: Wills and Jack Conklin. They go out and they get

794
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: Alex Cappa, they get Ted Carriss, and they get Lyle Collins.

795
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean that solved it. They've gone a long way

796
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: to solving it if they have not already. And so

797
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: that is that's what you do. And they're able to

798
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: get guys that want to play their people do want

799
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: to play with Joe Burrow. That is very helpful when

800
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: you're in the recruitment and and we've seen that, you know,

801
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: even here with the Browns, this is gonna be a

802
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: loaded division. And the notion that you are going to

803
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: have battles between and now Burrows not yet beating the Browns,

804
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: but the battles between Deshaun Watson and Joe Burrow for

805
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: a decade potentially in this division is pretty awesome from

806
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: a football standpoint, it is and there is an opportunity here.

807
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: And you know we're doing in Cleveland Brown's daily but

808
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: from the Bengal side of things, there's an opportunity here

809
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: for them too. And I don't think that anybody outside

810
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: of Mike Brown would have a problem with me saying this,

811
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: and he probably wouldn't either if you hooked him out

812
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: to a lie detector test. They have an opportunity here

813
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: to act like an NFL franchise. So that is the

814
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: last two years they've been aggressive in free agency. Right

815
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: there is they have addressed the idea of hey, we

816
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: need an indoor. To give you an idea, The Cincinnati

817
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati was going to go in partners with

818
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: the Bengals on an inwer facility in Cincinnati. The Bengals

819
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 1: bailed in Cincinnati built it on their own. That happened.

820
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: That's a college, that's college, and it's not even a

821
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: power five in an Ohio state. Cincinnati Bearcat's an Ohio state, Okay,

822
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: And they built an indoor for the for the college

823
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: because the Bengals weren't a part of it. So then

824
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: last week at the owners meetings, the Bangers are like, Okay, yeah,

825
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: we we probably need to do this. They have to

826
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 1: be the only team in the league and an inclement

827
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: weather that doesn't have team, which is outrageous. Cincinnati's athletic

828
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: facilities that they've built up in the last five to

829
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: ten years are unbelievable. University Gredd nippert Um, they added

830
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: to the football, they added the indoor. Yeah, they've done it,

831
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: but I mean, you can't be It's interesting. The irony,

832
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: of course of it all is the Cincinnati Bengals were

833
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: founded by Paul Brown. Paul Brown Stadium is located in Masslon, Ohio,

834
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: where they have an indoor for the high school team,

835
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: and the Cincinnati Bengals did not have an indoor. That's

836
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: the reality. And they also have Paul Brown STU and

837
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: they also have Paul Browns' Right Right SNS indoor without

838
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: the indoor. The high school team has one. So that

839
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: tells you, like how far they were behind everybody and

840
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: remain but at least and I understand like they will

841
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: be our mortal enemies on the field, but it's good

842
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: for everybody that they're that they're engaged. You know that

843
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: there's an engagement there and that they are talking about

844
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: doing things that everybody ought to be doing in the league.

845
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: And a big part of that is Joe Burrow. And

846
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: and that's him him being in. He's two years in.

847
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: I've talked to people down in Cincinnati that want to

848
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: put him on a level like with John Bench and

849
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: Pete Rose, like that's where Burrow is in two years

850
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: and the Bengals afford him. Well, you know too, I

851
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: don't know that he I think she's right. I think

852
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: she's right. I think if they I don't think it

853
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: will be. He's gonna be wealthy beyond his imagination. Joe

854
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: Burrow is not somebody who ever thought he would be

855
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: in this spot, you know, a hundred million, two million

856
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: dollar quarterback. There's no chance he thought this right. That

857
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: was not in you know, that was not in the dreams.

858
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: You don't dream that big. And that's what he's going

859
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: to be for sure. So the question is will he

860
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: hold their feet to the fire to make sure that

861
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: he gets that. My hunches that he wouldn't agreed. I

862
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: don't think he will be somebody that says I need

863
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: every penny or I won't sign. I just that doesn't

864
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: strike me. I think she's right. I think he could

865
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: be far more like Brady in that regard and do

866
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna get wealthy, but does not need every penny,

867
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: every pound of flesh from the Bengals in order to

868
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: do it. I think it'd be far more interested if

869
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: you know anything about him from his time at Ohio State.

870
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: It's time and l s U. He will be far

871
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: more interested in and and make sure you can pay Jamar two.

872
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you can pay Boyd to make sure

873
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: you can pay Higgins, to make sure that you can

874
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: take care of all these guys. Be far more concerned

875
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: about that. And again, if you want to look for

876
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: someone else that their presence changed everything about their franchise,

877
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: it's Peyton Manning. Look, I mean, Lucas Oil Stadium exists

878
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: because of Payton Manning, their practice facility which is second

879
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: to none, and their training camp. They don't still have

880
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: the Combine without Peyton Manning. Correct. No, yeah, they're Final

881
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: Fours without Peyton Manning. No. Yeah, they're not gonna build

882
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: those type of things in Cincinnati, but they will build

883
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: things because of Borrow. Correct. He will have that impact. Yes, yes,

884
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: there's no question. All right, we'll get the Steelers side

885
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,120
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891
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: around the a f C North in the middle of

892
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: free agency. The big wave is done, but certainly many

893
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: more names could be out there, and we had to

894
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh for a good friend. Brooke Prior covers the Steelers

895
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: for ESPN NFL Nation. Brook Let's just start with this

896
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: because this is the first time in a dang long

897
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: time that the Steeler has been in position where you go, now,

898
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: we're doing what at quarterback? And I think that leads

899
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: to the question of how did the Steelers view them

900
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: selves and all of this. You know, it's a great question,

901
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: because I'm with you that the Steelers are doing what

902
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: at quarterback. I don't think that we're gonna know any

903
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: kill training camp probably at this point, because yes have

904
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 1: added Mr Robinski. Mason Rudolph is under contract, Dwayne Haskins

905
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: is under contract, but Kevin Colbert was pretty clear during

906
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: this off season conversation with us that they want to

907
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: add uh, they want to have at least four quarterbacks

908
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: going into training camp. So there is that one spot open,

909
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: and I don't get the sense that it's going to

910
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: be you know, maybe a Josh Jobs. I think that

911
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: they want four competitive quarterbacks going into training camp, um

912
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: which like that doesn't preclude them from drafting a quarterback

913
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: here at the end of the month. So it's kind

914
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: of crazy to be in April and not know who

915
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: the Steelers starting quarterback is going to be in September.

916
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: Just given the longevity and the consistency that we've seen

917
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh for so long, Man, that longevity was very

918
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: much tied to the identity of the Steelers team, and

919
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: as you get ready to head into this season, always

920
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: saw the drafts come. What is the what is the identity?

921
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: What is this team going to be built on? In

922
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: your opinion, you know, I think that it's going to

923
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: go back to a very strong run game and a

924
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: defensive team. I mean, this is a team that's had,

925
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: or an organization rather that's had a really strong defense

926
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: for a long time. And I think that They're going

927
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: to have to lean on that in this next era

928
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: of Steeler football with guys like t J. Watts, Amanga Fitzpatrick,

929
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: who they want to get a big, big time, long

930
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: term deal done with. Um, those guys are going to

931
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: be the anchors. Uh. You got a guy like Kim

932
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: Hayward who has been very good for a very long time,

933
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: He's still in his prime. And then on the offensive

934
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: side of the ball, I think that they want to

935
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: run their identity through Nag Harris. That's why they used

936
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick on him. They've retooled their

937
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: offensive line. I'm interested to see what the additions that

938
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: they went with in free agency are able to do

939
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: to get that going a little bit more. But I mean,

940
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: this is not going to be a team that's identity

941
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: is defined by its quarterback the way that it was

942
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: for the better part of two decades. I think it's

943
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: going to be a really tough, gritty football team. And

944
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: it's they're kind of zagging while everybody else is digging.

945
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: As far as you know, it feels like the a

946
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: f C is loading up on all these big name

947
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the Steelers are feels like at this point

948
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: contend to go with Nagy Harris and the defense is

949
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: being kind of their identity for the foreseeable future. Brooke,

950
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: do they do? I guess what I'm what I'm curious

951
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: about is do they think that they can contend that

952
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: way in the snake pit that is the a f C.

953
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: I mean this, we were talking about this a couple

954
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I think there's like thirteen teams in

955
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: the a f C to view themselves as playoff teams.

956
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: We think there's like eight to view themselves as Super

957
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: Bowl contenders. Do the Steelers consider themselves in that group?

958
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: You know, that's a great question. I think that the

959
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: Steelers have had so much success for so long that

960
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: that is how they want to view themselves. But the

961
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: reality of the a f C is you might need

962
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: that big name quarterback to contend. But I think the

963
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: Steelers feel like, Okay, all these teams of big name quarterbacks,

964
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: We're going to build a defense that can take them

965
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 1: down and defeat them. Um. But still, I mean then

966
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: you look at the FC in the off, in the

967
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: defensive editions that so many teams have made. I mean

968
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: Von Miller coming back to or going to Buffalo, Um,

969
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: it's the Steelers would like to be up there in

970
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: that conversation. I just don't know how realistic that is

971
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: at this point. And they've never had a losing season

972
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: under Mike Tomlin, and I'm sure they want to keep

973
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: that streak very much intact this year. And you mentioned

974
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 1: the running game, you mentioned the defense, but some names

975
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: will be gone off that defense, certainly one near and

976
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: dear to our hearts Joe Hayden, the veteran cornerback. And

977
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: then I want to talk really quickly about the receiver

978
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: room because that was a a an area of depth

979
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: and now with Juju Smith Schuster going to the Chiefs,

980
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: James Washington the Cowboys, Ray Ray McCloud of the Niners,

981
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: you know, it's Deonte Johnson, Claypool. And then what is

982
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: that something that's still a big point of emphasis do

983
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: you think for them going maybe into the draft even Yeah,

984
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 1: I mean I think it has to be. I think,

985
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: you know, they have done pretty well at drafting wide

986
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: receive first recently, although Cheese Claypool did have some regression

987
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: this last year. There's no doubt about that. But they

988
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: have to add that room, whether that is through free agency,

989
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: looking at kind of who's available in the next couple

990
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 1: of months, like you mentioned earlier, now that that first

991
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: wave is over, but I could see them using a

992
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: second or third round pick on a wide receiver because

993
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: they need to replenish that room. I mean, I don't

994
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: know that that they were envisioning losing a guy like

995
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: Ray Ray McLeod. You know, I think they wanted to

996
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: let him test free agency and then, you know, maybe

997
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: bring him back, but he obviously went somewhere else. James

998
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: Washington was really never gonna be coming back. Juju Smith

999
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: Schuster was a maybe. So they knew that they were

1000
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: going to have some work to do. But I think

1001
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: this might be even more than they initially envisioned. Bro

1002
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: candycap the quarterbacks for me, with the addition of Trabinsky

1003
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: everything you always here at Pittsburgh's. They love Rudolph way

1004
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: more than a lot of the rest of us do. Um,

1005
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: how do you think they really feel about Rudolph And

1006
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: what do they think Trabinsky can be? What do they

1007
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: want him to be here? You know, I think that

1008
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: they still feel good about Rudolph, but he's obviously not

1009
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: the guy. If they were comfortable enough, uh, using some

1010
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: of this money that they have in free agency to

1011
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: bring in another quarterback, but they're not giving Mitch tro

1012
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: Whisky starting quarterback money. So I think that they view it, um,

1013
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: maybe not as an open competition. Maybe Mason Rudolph has

1014
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: a little bit or Mitch drop Whisky has a little

1015
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: bit of an edge there UM, but I think that

1016
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: they still want to give Mason the opportunity to compete. UM.

1017
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: I just don't know that he's going to be the

1018
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: long term answer after but it feels like they're really

1019
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: taking the tires on all of their options. So that

1020
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: could that be draft to then they could go first

1021
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: round draft and add a rookie to this mix. Yeah,

1022
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: I think that that's a real possibility. That was a

1023
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: big thing that they mentioned UM in talking with Mike

1024
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 1: Tomlin and Kevin Coulvert down at owners meetings. They said,

1025
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: over and over and over again, we wanted to bring

1026
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: in a quarterback that didn't cost us any draft capital um,

1027
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: and that's what they did in Mitch dro Whisky. So

1028
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: it would seem to suggest that either they use that

1029
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: first round pick on a quarterback or maybe they use

1030
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: second round UH and get a guy like Desmond Ritter.

1031
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: But I think that really all options are on the table,

1032
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 1: and and that you know, coming out of the combine,

1033
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot of kind of Malik Willis talk with

1034
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: the Steelers, and now it feels like it would be

1035
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: tough to seelus. We have to make a pretty aggressive move,

1036
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: I think, to get into position to get him based

1037
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: on what kind of people are are talking about. Then

1038
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: you see some mock draft you don't have quarterbacks going

1039
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: in the first round at all. So it's kind of

1040
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: all over the map there. But how important and do

1041
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: you think this is an organization that you know, they

1042
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: haven't had to think about this for so long, that

1043
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: is going to be extremely aggressive in trying to get

1044
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: that next Ben Roethlisburger. I mean, yeah, you're right, they

1045
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: have to be incredibly aggressive. And it feels like, you know,

1046
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: they've had a couple of years they've they've seen how

1047
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: you know, quarterbacks are aging. They've have known for a

1048
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: long time been getting older, and they needed to come

1049
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: up with a contingency plan. And now it's in crunch time.

1050
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: They have no options put to find the next Inn

1051
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: Roblisburger because he's not around anymore. Um, And so I

1052
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: think that that's why they are going out so aggressively

1053
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: and hitting the pro day circuit and you know, taking

1054
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks out to dinner. My Tom when talked about how

1055
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: much he loves the work and he loves evaluating these guys,

1056
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: and it kind of feels like now he has an

1057
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to really think his teeth into this quarterback clap,

1058
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: and he's using every chance he's getting to go out

1059
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: and evaluate and meet these guys, and it's gonna be

1060
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: intricting what plays out. I want to go back to

1061
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: one thing real quickly though. It's it feels like there

1062
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: is a perception with the Steelers about Mason Rudolph that

1063
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: maybe people outside of Pittsburgh don't quite get their head

1064
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: round because this organization that really seems to like him

1065
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: and want to continue to give him opportunities. What is

1066
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: it that the Steelers like so much about Mason Rudolph

1067
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: as a quarterback? Yeah? I think part of it is

1068
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: just that they feel like he hasn't really gotten a

1069
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: fair chance. Um, they obviously liked him when they drafted him.

1070
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: There's been the often repeated talking point that they had

1071
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: a first round grade on him. I don't know that

1072
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: it was maybe quite that high, but they liked him

1073
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: just as your quarterback kind of postyle guy coming out

1074
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: of college. He does have more mobility than Ben Robisberger. Um,

1075
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 1: But when you look at the setting set of circumstances

1076
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: that he's been in throughout his career, the fact that

1077
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: you know, when he became a starter, it was right

1078
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: after Benn got hurt and he didn't have a dedicated

1079
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: quarterback coach. You know, Signer was an offensive coordinator also

1080
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: kind of Ben's quarterback coach um, and he didn't have

1081
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: anyone to work with him on a day to day basis.

1082
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: In that way, the next year they bring in Matt

1083
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: Canada to work with him, he gets promoted offensive coordinator coordinator,

1084
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: they bring in uh Mike Sullivan to work with him.

1085
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: So they're thinking a lot of resources into developing a

1086
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: guy that at one point in time they thought potentially

1087
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: could be the successor. So they have seen something in him.

1088
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: I know, the one start that he had last year

1089
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: wasn't great, but when you look at the set of

1090
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: circumstances again, there he had twelve hours to prepare when

1091
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: Ben Robisberger got covid um and was out for the game.

1092
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: So I think that they just want to give him

1093
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: every community to show that he's the guy that they

1094
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: saw when they drafted him at at Oklahoma State. What's

1095
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: kind of just the temperature of this fan base? And

1096
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 1: I asked that because this is an organization that has

1097
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: been so good for so long, and then you kind

1098
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: of die, say, all right, well, they haven't won a

1099
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: playoff games since the two thousand and sixteen playoffs the

1100
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: two sixteen season. Those games played in two thousand and

1101
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: seventeen losses to Jacksonville, the Browns UH two years ago,

1102
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: and then the Chiefs this year. They don't have that quarterback.

1103
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: What's kind of the feeling right now? Because I have

1104
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: to mention, this is a pretty unfamiliar place for Steelers

1105
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: fans to be. I don't know that they've been there

1106
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: since what like, I don't even know when the nineties, eighties,

1107
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: the eighties. Looking for the biggest drought it was the eighties.

1108
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: Been a long time. Yeah, I mean, I think there's

1109
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: definitely some just anxiousness when you look at the future

1110
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: because it is pretty unsettled. But I think maybe there's

1111
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: cautious optimism because yes, they don't have a settled the

1112
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: back right now, but they have other pieces. They're not

1113
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, they're not the Jaguars, They're not UM. I wouldn't.

1114
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: They're not the Falcons. They're still I think a tier

1115
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: of football team that maybe they're not Super Bowl contenders,

1116
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: maybe they're not even playoff contenders. They're ceiling maybe making

1117
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs next year, but they have the pieces that

1118
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: it's not going to be UM. I don't think they're

1119
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 1: good that they're going to go back into the dark

1120
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: ages of the eighties. Uh. This is an organization that

1121
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: drafts there, that has figured out how to navigate through

1122
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: some of these tough times, and they have T. J.

1123
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: Watt and Nag Harris. Um. Yes, they need to replenish

1124
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: their uh their wide receivers, they maybe need to add

1125
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman, but then they've got a guy like

1126
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: Miles Jacket interior linebacker and sideline backer that I think

1127
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: that that they feel like there's I think the fan

1128
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: base overall looks in that and says, Okay, they know

1129
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: they have a plan, They're they're going to figure it out.

1130
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: They just have to kind of see all of that

1131
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 1: come together. Brooker, Carol and a girl, right, I am.

1132
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: I it's It's been a rough uh twenty four hours

1133
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: or so, but I'm wearing my Chapel Hill versus all

1134
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: y'all shirts. No, I'm still good. I'm still proud of

1135
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: my team good. I was gonna ask you because I

1136
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: we were talking on Monday on the show. I think

1137
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: it's probably the most that Arrival has ever taken from

1138
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: its rival. What Carolina did the duke? Uh? Losing winning

1139
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: the last game at Cameron and then eliminating coach k

1140
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: in the final four. Would you rather have done that

1141
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: and lost the national title game by three or the

1142
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: opposite and won the national title? Uh? No, I would

1143
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: take the way things turned out a hundred times out

1144
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: of a hundred times, because that's a bragging point that

1145
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: I will have forever. And I've actually I've been out

1146
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: in San Diego to bachelorrette party with my college roommate

1147
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: all weekend, so it could not have turned out better.

1148
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: I was very stressful watching on Saturday night, but things

1149
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: things turned out okay there, and obviously we're disappointed that

1150
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: the UNC didn't win last night. But I will take

1151
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: that run any day over another title. I thought you

1152
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: might I think that's the correct answer on that one.

1153
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: As well. Thanks for your time. Broke is always great

1154
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: talking to you. Absolutely, Thanks guys, all right, that's Brooke

1155
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: Prior covers the Steelers for ESPN NFL Nation. You know,

1156
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: it's interesting you asked that question. I was, That's the

1157
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: one I was headed to with the fans because it's

1158
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: a the idea of how do you explain? And no

1159
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: one here's feeling sorry for him? But how you explain

1160
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: to somebody? It's kind of like being a Packers fan,

1161
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: like you're always relevant. You've been relevant for much of

1162
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: your life, all right, So I just went and looked

1163
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: through this. The longest since nineteen seventy two. Since nineteen

1164
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: seventy two, their longest playoff appearance drought was from sight.

1165
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: They missed the playoffs four consecutive seasons. That's Mark Malone

1166
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: into Bubby Brister probably. That's the longest since nineteen seventy two.

1167
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: They've been in the playoffs by basically every year. They

1168
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: were currently on a streak of two thousand, seventeen eighteen

1169
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: one five years without winning a playoff game, which is

1170
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: one of their longest streaks of that period as well.

1171
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: It's just a remarkable amount of consistency. They went from

1172
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: eighty nine to ninety four. Though they won, that's only

1173
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: three years, four years. I'm sorry. They're in the longest

1174
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: playoff win drought, I believe from seventy two and and

1175
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: but they've been the playoffs seat to the last two seasons.

1176
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: But the longest drought they had of missing the playoffs

1177
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: missing the playoffs was four years, and that was back

1178
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 1: in the eighties. I mean, there they are entering very

1179
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: unfamiliar territorial history. Would say they have figured out a

1180
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: way to do it every single time, from Neil O'Donnell

1181
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: to Quarterdell Stewart, Tommy Maddox to Roethlisberger, like they've found

1182
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: a way. This has not been the Green Bay where

1183
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: you've been granted two of the ten best quarterbacks in

1184
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: NFL history. That's not what's happened here. They have piece

1185
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: worked it together oather over the last forty years. You know,

1186
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: it's not all Bradshawan Roethlisberger, and they've done it, and

1187
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: it's it's now they're kind of headed for unfamiliar The

1188
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: big thing is is you probably do have to go

1189
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: back to that last the eighties because at that point

1190
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,479
Speaker 1: you're talking about Warren Moon in Houston. You're talking about

1191
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: Boomer and Bernie, and that is where they are in

1192
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: an Lay and Marina. But I'm just saying in the division,

1193
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: the division, in the division, this is the first time

1194
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: where they are so distantly fourth in the division at quarterback,

1195
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: so distantly because we were lost at times when they

1196
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: were lost, they were they were the a f C

1197
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: Central punching bag for that little tiny stretch that you

1198
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: remember when they were. But then they came out of

1199
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: it and they were right ninety four they're in a

1200
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: super Bowl or in the Super Bowl. Los to the

1201
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys in that Super Bowl, but then they

1202
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: stayed with it with Cower cow Nold a coward to Tomlin,

1203
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: here's a crazy thing for being a D defensive oriented team.

1204
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: And I think you always thought about Bennon and he

1205
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: thought of just in the Blitzburg Steelers, the great defense.

1206
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: Give a how many points per game? Do you think

1207
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: the Steelers have given up in their last three playoff appearances?

1208
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: Points per game in their last three playoff appearances? Total

1209
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: points given up? Slaughtered? Do points per Yeah? You are

1210
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: points per game. You new points so you don't have

1211
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,959
Speaker 1: to multiplied by three. Wait a my doing total points

1212
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: or points per game, points per game, I'm gonna say

1213
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: thirty one. I think it's more forty five to the

1214
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: Jags and seventeen forty eight to us in twenty and

1215
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: forty two to the Chiefs this year. I forgot about

1216
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: the Jags that shootout. It wasn't a beat those two well,

1217
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: but it was a beat down. The Steelers came back

1218
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: like that late third quarter, early fourth, but otherwise Jacksonville

1219
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 1: had control that game. Wild Wild, We'll have a little

1220
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: fun on the golf course. It's Master's Week. We'll do that.

1221
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,000
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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods this morning eleven o'clock at Augusta National with

1236
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: a press conference where he said this, well, as of

1237
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: right now, I feel like I am going to play

1238
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: as a right now, Um, I'm gonna play nine and

1239
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: more holes tomorrow. Um Uh, my recovery has been good.

1240
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: I've been very excited about how I've recovered each and

1241
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: every day and that that's been the challenge. That's why

1242
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: I came up here and tested out for seven holes

1243
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: because we played the Part three course. Charlie couldn't help himself.

1244
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: Um so was able to play twenty seven holes that day.

1245
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: Um and at home testing it. But it's the recovery,

1246
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, How How am I going to get all

1247
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: the swelling out and cover for the next day? And uh,

1248
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: my team has been fantastic and worked very hard. Um

1249
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: So I've got another day of nine more holes and

1250
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: then come game time. I want to say. It was

1251
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: Brandell Shamblee this weekend, which is just such a fantastic

1252
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: name for a guy who makes his living. He really

1253
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: could um or he could be on downtown Abbey both

1254
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: um he uh, the Gilded Age perhaps. He said over

1255
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: the weekend that there were they remembered images of Tiger

1256
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: at Riviera. So apparently at Riviera, the eighteenth at Riviera

1257
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: is down and it's a big steep incline back you've

1258
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: been so there. It's a staircase basically that you have

1259
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: to go up to get to the clubhouse from where

1260
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: eighteen ends. And apparently when he was there, he bounded

1261
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: up the stairs. Since at that point that people are like, oh,

1262
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: his legs, fine, He's gonna be okay, which is a

1263
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: remarkable thing. I knew as soon as he as soon

1264
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: as you drive down Magnolia Lane come home. So that's

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01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: the biggest thing, is what exactly he said, is that

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01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: recovery fluid swelling, like you gotta as soon as you're done,

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01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: you gotta get off of that. Like can you imagine

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01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: the team of scientists that are working on him trio tube,

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01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: both from a nutrition just from a work of workout,

1270
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: a recovery a nutrition standpoint that they're working on the

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01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: amount of nonflammatory foods that he's everything he's doing is

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: as good as can be done. It's actually one of

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01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 1: the one of the it's not that much fun to

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01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: talk about, but how smart athletes have become in the

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01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: last twenty years in terms of diet, exercise, recovery. We're

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01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: just smarter than we've ever been. Yeah, we've taken that science,

1277
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: as it were, to a totally different level, and you're

1278
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: seeing the results in the longevity of people and what

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01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: people are able to do at ages when you would

1280
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: have thought people were way washed up, like not even

1281
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: a chance, unfathomable, unfathomable, And I think a lot of

1282
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: it is. It's interesting. I saw this video of Jamison

1283
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: Williams over the weekend of him running how quickly he

1284
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: came back. I think that when it's a remarkable thing.

1285
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: The thing that opened I think everybody's eyes to how

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01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: far things had come was Adrian Peterson. Yes, I think

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01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: you're right. I remember that vividly, like, wait, he's coming

1288
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: back from a killing and then he came back and

1289
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: led the NFL and rushing. If I'm not mistaken, he

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01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 1: was great. Yeah, and he did It's like, wait, within

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01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: a year, Wow, really that used to be a full

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01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 1: year and maybe same. Right, you remember a time when

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01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: we were in high school in college where if there

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01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 1: was an achilles do you remember the term micro fracture?

1295
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: Remember Grandhill had the micro fracture and it was like

1296
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: your career is over, like because you're like breaking drilling

1297
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: holes in the bone. And Penny Hardaway had a microfracture.

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01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: Like now people have a c l S. Six months later,

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01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: we're right in it fully back. Yeah, so that's a

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01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: that's a remarkable thing. My ex my hope for him,

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01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: I would be thrilled. I would do cartwheels if he

1302
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: makes the cut. He's gonna make the cut, and I

1303
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: think he will have no doubt. They can massage the

1304
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: cut there. They have their own rules. So number one, yes,

1305
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: Number two absolutely, I believe he's main cut. Number three.

1306
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: He is the most bet on guy to win, to

1307
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: finish in the top five, to win in the top ten,

1308
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: and to make the cut of anybody. So there's a

1309
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: lot on the line. If he has a huge week,

1310
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: the books are going to be sad. If he has

1311
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: a bad week, the books will be quite happy. I

1312
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: think the books will be happy. I don't think he's

1313
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: not a bad week, but I think it would be

1314
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 1: crazy for him to be to win the President. You

1315
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: think of the recent major, recent Masters winners, you're almost

1316
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: always at the top thirty in the world. You're almost

1317
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 1: always playing well going into augusta within that you know

1318
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 1: that year. It's so rare. I mean, but yet he's

1319
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: the one guy who has no there's so many things

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01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 1: he's done or without without president, and he's five of

1321
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: his last six. And if the drivers work there and

1322
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: the putter, putter is what it's got to be. The

1323
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: putter comes down to the putter. Yes, he's got a putt,

1324
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: and I believe that hopefully that's the one thing you

1325
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: should be able to be working on. All of it

1326
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: should be is completely in tune with his with the

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01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: flat stick. Watching yesterday, I remember, I said, when he's

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01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: working on the bunkers and like he's playing, like you're not.

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01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: You don't go in there unless you're gonna go Yeah,

1330
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 1: you're not trying to figure out what the sands like.

1331
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: How you're not worried about any of that. So my

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01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: buddy is there today. He's there, he's following Tiger, he's

1333
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: in the gallery, and that's why I want to say,

1334
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: did you see the crowd yesterday? One of my heart

1335
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: is saying, no, you're not. It looked that could have

1336
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: been Sunday. That could have been a Sunday. Here's the

1337
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: crazy thing about him. That's every that's every time he

1338
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: tease it up at every tournament. That's the gallery for

1339
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: twenty five years. He is the one athlete who has

1340
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: completely transcendent to sport. And quite frankly, he is the sport.

1341
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: If he's not playing, its scenarious targarian. He's not trying

1342
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: to be as spoken the wheel he broke the wheel

1343
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: he is. He's the wheel. He is the wheel. He's

1344
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: the entire wheel, which is crazy. There's never have been

1345
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: anything like that. You've had great players, and very Michael

1346
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: Jordan is obviously the greatest in Lebron and Montana Brady,

1347
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: but there's nothing like Tiger Woods playing in a golf tournament.

1348
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: The impact on the attendance, the impact on the ratings,

1349
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: the impact on the gallery, all of it purse over

1350
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: the last twenty years for those who plays. He is one.

1351
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 1: And if you added up the impact of golfers two

1352
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 1: through a hundred combined, it does not equal it's Tiger,

1353
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: and that's it. It might as well be the Tiger Tour.

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01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: It is. I think you damn near put like if

1355
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm over I don't think I'm oversetting.

1356
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,560
Speaker 1: But let's say you put like a match play opposite

1357
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: the Masters. Now that probably wouldn't beat the Masters. But

1358
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: if he was involved in the match play in his prime,

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01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: this is what that tours was trying to do in Europe,

1360
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: the Dubai Tour, the Michael has got all the trouble about.

1361
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: They're trying to say, all right, you can have whatever

1362
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 1: you want, we're gonna take the ten best. But the

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01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: one guy they had to have would have been him.

1364
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: He was the one guy that had to be a

1365
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: part of it were it to be a success and

1366
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: for them to keep all of the money. That was

1367
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: the only chance Without him. There isn't there absolutely isn't.

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01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: My buddies literally there three deep around the practice screen

1369
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: watching have they seen him play at all today? Or

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01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: they so? What are our reports? Buddy Travis Tiger walked

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01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: out as we were standing on the practice screen, walked

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01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 1: over to the first team, striped one right down the middle,

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01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 1: and the place lost its mind. Of course, of course,

1374
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: of course. And he's he has the same way way

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01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: I feel about him as the way my kids feel

1376
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: about him. I mean, I remember when he won Augusta

1377
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: and they were like, Dad, we gotta go. It was

1378
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: a terrible It was a decent day, but it was wet,

1379
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: kind of like how these days have been. It was wet.

1380
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 1: I pulled out the net and they were hitting balls NonStop.

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01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: Let's go Tiger. So they were good to go. All right,

1382
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: let's do this the decy Matsi Yama. I'm gonna make

1383
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: an argument that this is the most expensive plated masters

1384
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: meal that's ever been constructed and bolt and I think, well,

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01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: I think never. I've never had black cod before, so

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01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. Don't standard like a

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01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: nob noboo, and I didn't have We had sushi. I

1388
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: mean it's delicious. Yeah, I'm sure it is. And so

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01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure all right, so let's we had a Zumi gibbe.

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01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: We had some miso black cod at a Zumi when

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01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: in Baltimore with the Secretary of the Sure, Yes, there's

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01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:29,799
Speaker 1: no doubt. By the way, I think there's no question

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01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: this is the most expensive even close. I've I've got

1394
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: them all right here, it's not even closed. Alright, So

1395
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: let's do a before we do ours. Let's do this.

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01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: Let's do to our best idea, the not Caribbean plated cost,

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01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: North American plated cost of this meal. Now, some of

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01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,560
Speaker 1: this is going to depend on the assorted sushi and shashimi.

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01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: It'll depend on what type of fish you're dealing with that.

1400
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: But let's just say it's one role. Let's say it's

1401
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: you're getting one role, okay, in a nice white tablecloth

1402
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: of a good sushi. Twenty eight bucks between twenty eight

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01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 1: and thirty two bucks on the roll? Is that fair?

1404
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: Yet somewhere in there misuglaize black cod that'll run you

1405
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: per person called probably Maybe that's right. I'm with you,

1406
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: is I think you're around there? The miyazaki waigu a

1407
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: five wig ribbi, I would say, a hundred a hundred

1408
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: of pound, and it's a ribby. See usually with wigu,

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01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: you're you're it's a filet. You don't usually delve into

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01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: the ribbon. Right, You rarely see a ribbi on a meal.

1411
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: I've had it once and it was in the Pacific Ocean.

1412
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: That's what I had it um, so I've not had

1413
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: it in North America. I can't tell you about it.

1414
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: Mia Zaki Wagu was one of the most sought after

1415
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: brands of beef in the world, has asked to pass

1416
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,959
Speaker 1: a series of strict guidelines before being sold the distributors,

1417
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: ensuring it meets its supure quality standard. Because the demand

1418
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: for the meat is so high in supplies so low,

1419
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: not many are able to try. It goes for a

1420
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: minimum of a hundred likely more per pound. Even at

1421
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: this price, the delectable meat is highly sought after by

1422
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: five star restaurants, world class steakhouses, and foodies. So I

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01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: with my guest on this Ribbi was a d seventy

1424
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: bucks person. I think that's fair because it's gonna be

1425
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be at least twenty four. You're gonna have

1426
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: an up charge, so I mean, I think it's one

1427
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 1: minimum on that and then the shortcakes fifteen bucks whatever. Fine.

1428
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: I think this is a North American plated two fifty

1429
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: plate of meal. That's what I think it's at before

1430
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: you pour a glass of wine. Oh yeah, and I

1431
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 1: mean compared to the other ones. So you have them

1432
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: up like, is it? What's the next closest to this. Um,

1433
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: so Patrick Reid was a caesar and a wedge to start.

1434
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: Main dish primary bone and cowboy ribby prime bone and

1435
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: cowboy ribbi with herd butter, so I mean no, he's out.

1436
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: Sergey Garcia International salad Entree was a traditional Spanish lobster

1437
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: rice out. Um. Danny Willett went with with like shepherd's

1438
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: pie out and out and a Sunday roast, so you

1439
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: had a little prime rib as well, but it's not

1440
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: competing with this. The only one that looks like it

1441
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: could be close. So Adam Scott had a surf and

1442
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: turf on the grill with including Moreton Bay bugs, which

1443
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,679
Speaker 1: is lobster. The main course was Australian wag you beef

1444
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,839
Speaker 1: New York strip steaks served with a Moreton Bay lobster sautapes,

1445
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: finished onion cream, mashed potatoes. So that's there and then um,

1446
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: the other one, uh, this is Charles Schwartzel had an

1447
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: opening course consisting of a chilled seafood bar which includes shrimp, lobster,

1448
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: crab meat, crab legs and oysters. So crab meat, lobster,

1449
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: crab legs, I mean chill. That's in the mix. We

1450
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: certainly know what a seafood tower main the main course.

1451
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: The main course was a bray. I don't know if

1452
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: I probably pronounced that in correctly b r a ai,

1453
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: which is a South African barbecue including lamb chop, steaks,

1454
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: South African sausages. It just depends on the ChIL sea.

1455
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: But there's no doubt that that is. I mean, I mean,

1456
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 1: you had Tiger in two thousand six, stuffed hallopenio in Casadia,

1457
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: appetizers with salts and guac, green salad, steak, Fahita's chicken

1458
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 1: Feedas love that. I mean, you have a few people

1459
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: go and Tiger when a Porterhouse in two thousand two,

1460
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 1: Porterhouse in two thousand three, Mike Weir elk wild boar,

1461
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 1: Canadian Arctic char and Canadian beer. I mean there's no bed.

1462
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 1: There's the vicinity of what he's done. Freddie Couples, chicken

1463
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: catch a Tory, Bernhard Longer six Weener Schnitzel, Yes, Sandy Lyle, Haggis,

1464
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: mashed potatoes and mashed turnips. Oh god, we've come a

1465
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: long way. Hagas is a tough sell boy. Is it?

1466
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: I think he's done it. There's no I mean and

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Speaker 1: this is stunning accomplishment. This meal, It's a stunning accomplishment.

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01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 1: This is a meal that you would have to go

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01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: to a very particular restaurant to even have an opportunity

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01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: to try this. Miyazaki wag You me zaki wag You

1471
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: is It's is Miyazaki the type of cow. So are

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01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: no here we go? You ready? These are all and

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01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: known in the States as brown spot Miyazaki wag You

1474
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 1: beef are kuraj WashU cows raised in the Miyazaki Prefecture

1475
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: in Japan on pure bred wag You cattle. Karaji WashU

1476
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 1: are the largest of the four wag You breeds raised

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01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 1: in Japan. Each rancher who has them specializes in this

1478
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 1: particular breed and will only raise an average of four

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01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: cattle at a time. This ensures they can care for

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01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: the animals, provide individual focus to each cow's needs, and

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01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: our watchful eye. Cattle receives the best treatment to ultimately

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01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 1: provide the best quality meat. They're raised on a wholesome

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01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: diet of corn, wheat and barley for more than six

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01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: hundred days, nearly eight times longer than most cattle on

1485
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: the market. Friend the cows with the rich nutrients an

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01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: extent time helps to develop quality meat. Unlike any there

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01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: strict regulations on its distribution. Yeah, I mean so I

1488
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: pulled up like these these different because I want to

1489
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: see what these cows look like. It's pretty amazing. You're

1490
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: brown spotted. So they have these names of which I

1491
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,799
Speaker 1: can't pronounce, but then in parentheses this is their common

1492
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: Now they're commonly referred Japanese black, Japanese brown, Japanese shorthorn,

1493
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 1: Japanese paulled pulled. So your brown spot not far off?

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01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: Far off? Is there any place here locally that serves this.

1495
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: I have never seen it. I've never seen it. I've

1496
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: see wig from time to time, and the grocery store

1497
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: tries that's American. Yeah, this is. It's easily recognized by

1498
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: a sincture characteristics such as it's rich cherry color, buttery texture,

1499
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 1: and dense beefy flavor. Beautiful marbling is distributed evenly throughout

1500
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: the meat, and as the meat cooks, the fat begins

1501
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: to melt and dissolve into the muscle as seventy seven

1502
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit saturates the meat with flavor for a melt

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01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 1: in your mouth. Dining experience I'm in. I mean, I

1504
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: had it. I had Japanese I go in Bora, Bora

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01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: and our honeymoon, and I thought that the experience of

1506
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: eating it was almost a It was almost as if

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01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: you didn't have to chew. It was so tender, like

1508
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: it was almost literally like it melt in the mouth,

1509
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: Like it had a different viscosity to it. And it

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01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: has like a little bit of almost not a sweetness

1511
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: to it, but it's meat almost with cream because that

1512
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: there is in it. It's a weird I don't not describe,

1513
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: but it is unlike eating a regular seak, and it

1514
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: is the real treat. But I don't know that I

1515
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: necessarily think that for the price, it's significantly better than

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01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: say a Colorado ribbi that you would Yeah, I don't

1517
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: know that it's it's just different. I don't know that

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01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: it's I don't know that Like when I had it,

1519
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I I'll never eat beef the same.

1520
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: It was very unique, but I don't know that it

1521
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: was so much extraordinary that it was worth I've had

1522
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: a couple that have been really really good, and then

1523
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: somewhere I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, Jade. By the way,

1524
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: says that Morton Bay Bugs are an elite crustacean. All right,

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01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: when we come back, let's put together our master's menu.

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Speaker 1: h Masters Meals, Masters, Champions meals. Um. Should we do

1549
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,560
Speaker 1: this so you get what's customary at the Masters? Is

1550
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: you get an app? You get two mains kind I

1551
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: think can do whatever you want, but it seems kind

1552
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 1: of like two mains and then a dessert, so you

1553
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: can do salads too if you want. So, should we

1554
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: do like a pre main course for everybody or should

1555
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: we do the full menu for each one of us?

1556
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: I have a full menu? No, No, I have it too.

1557
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like, should we present the entire menu

1558
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: or each go around on the app and then each

1559
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,839
Speaker 1: go around in the main, each go around in the dessert.

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01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: How do you process the first process? Okay, let's start

1561
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: with the your first course, give a well number one.

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01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 1: Mine will be the most expensive because I will have

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Speaker 1: the most layers and levels of this layers and somewhat

1564
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 1: someone else is picking up this tab. We're gonna party

1565
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: or let it go? Yeah, We're gonna let it go.

1566
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: What's coming out first as you sit down at the

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01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: at the at the clubhouse at Augusta, before we get

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01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 1: to the soups and salads, it's a nice little buffet

1569
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: of mozzarella sticks and chicken wings, chicken wings with the

1570
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: trolley sauce from my good friends at the trolley House

1571
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: bringing the trolley sauce, the homemade sauce, A good mozzarella

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01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: stick with a good manonata, and you're in. Come on,

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01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: we're lightening it up here. You're living, you're living. I mean,

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01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: I like pizza roles. You're gonna go that route. I

1575
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: would have gone pizza rolls. I mean I think that's

1576
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 1: just to see it on the menu and the master's

1577
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: logo off top. That would beautiful. Why I'm doing it? Yeah,

1578
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: and you'll never have to pay for a chicken wing

1579
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: at trolley House again if you ever appropriate frankly, after appropriate,

1580
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: after the statement it was made, all right, I am

1581
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: going to start with a duo of tacos on a

1582
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: on a street taco like a nice little corn tortilla.

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01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna start with tacos al pass store and also

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01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: two ways tacos alpo store two ways, the traditional off

1585
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 1: the spit with the pork. They have a narrow pineapple salsa.

1586
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: But also I once had at a resort in Mexico,

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01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: actually at the Four Seasons it planted the meta I had,

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01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: they had lobster al past store tacos. So I'm gonna

1589
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 1: have a duo for you can have the pork al

1590
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: pas store or the lobster al pastour tacos. That's how

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01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 1: we're starting. I don't think people have any idea your

1592
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: appetite or what you're I know we've talked about it,

1593
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: but what you're able to consume. We live stream that

1594
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: like one day, just what the man he knows the

1595
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 1: idea that that you you hit him right with the

1596
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 1: tacos right away. That is the type of appetite you have.

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01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: Like it's just a remarkable what you can concer. I

1598
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: didn't believe untill I saw it with my own I

1599
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: want to remind people that I was at a New

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01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 1: Year's party with a great Zago where the appetizer was

1601
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: a one pound strip steak and then the main course

1602
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: was a two pound revive and Uncle Norman almost died.

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01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 1: I would go, I I like starting you know in

1604
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: this type of situation, I would start uh with with

1605
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 1: a salad of some sort, and I kind of the

1606
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: way I lane lined this out was this felt like

1607
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 1: the right type of salad to start with. So I

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01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: would go salad, and I would go sushi. That's my

1609
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,759
Speaker 1: favorite thing to do at a at a nice restaurant.

1610
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: So I would go with a beat salad. I enjoy

1611
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: a beat salad. Um, and I would go with a

1612
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: soy paper lobster roll as your as your as your

1613
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: sushi of choice. So I would go with the beat salad,

1614
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: the lobster roll to start. So we're onto the mains. Well,

1615
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a salad as well, though, because I'm

1616
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: gonna break it up. I'm at my apps with some tequila,

1617
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna have add your salad in Okay,

1618
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: So after that, yeah, because add the salad because I

1619
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: put I put the salad in the lobster roll together

1620
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: salad mozzarella sticks and the wings or as you kind

1621
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: of mingle. So let's go to salad. Do your salads now, okay, yeah,

1622
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: you table side caesar. I'm going to have a table

1623
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: side caesar, but a Southwestern caesar with a spicy caesar

1624
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: dressing and a halopenial cornbread cutons. Where have you had?

1625
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 1: That's very intriguing. That's very intriguing. What is the Southwestern caesar?

1626
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: We'll get through it. What is the Southwestern caesar dressing?

1627
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 1: Isn't it? It's a it's a It's got a little

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01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: bit more of it's got a little heat in it. Sure,

1629
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 1: and the crutons can have not I don't want it

1630
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 1: to have cream, but sometimes I think they may be

1631
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: mixed like a little maybe a little Adobo Chile, you know,

1632
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 1: to put las a little bit like into the sauce.

1633
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: That guy's get a mistake in that happen. Um all right,

1634
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 1: mains mains giving bird of mains. So it's a barbecue theme.

1635
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: I like it. Uh, the main, the main one, a

1636
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: barbecue boneless leg of lamb with a little Moroccans spice.

1637
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: I've got a pulled pork mac and cheese and a

1638
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: brisket baked beans to go alongside those burnt end brisket.

1639
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: I like it. I like where your heads at z

1640
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: your main? So I'm kind of I started off in

1641
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: this journey of the little Southwestern and then we're gonna

1642
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: transition to our finish, subtle transition into the flavors of

1643
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 1: of Asia, and we're gonna help. We're going to have

1644
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: a mop smoked prime rib in a hoistened mop that's

1645
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: gonna give a little sweetness and heat to it, and

1646
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna have that served with Tempora king crab legs

1647
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: in a hobnero curry sauce. And I've had it. Have

1648
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: you ever had a Temple king crab tempora leg like

1649
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 1: where it's the leg and in tempora in a little

1650
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 1: curry yellow curry. But that's not prepared that way, But

1651
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: that's I feel like that would be a big win.

1652
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 1: There's a place in Atlanta that used to have that water.

1653
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: And the mop is gonna be great. So it's gonna

1654
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: be kind of like a you know, it's it's kind

1655
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: of got that hoist any it's a little Asian little

1656
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: sticky on the outside of the prime rib and the

1657
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 1: old smoked up and oh my god, it's gonna it's

1658
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be exp it's gonna be unbelievable. So

1659
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: you're the king of all meats, is the prime rib

1660
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: to you? For me, it would be the So I

1661
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 1: will go a a Montana grass fed rib I finished

1662
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: with grains, so you get a little marbl ing at

1663
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 1: the end. The last three days or so, we'll get

1664
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 1: that going. Uh. So we will do that a bone

1665
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 1: in ribby, and then we'll also do with this. Um.

1666
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: We're also gonna do Alaskan wild crab legs. I will

1667
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 1: have them out of the shell. I don't want people

1668
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 1: having to deal with the crack of shells that they

1669
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 1: will be out of the shell. We will go the

1670
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: big legs only. Um. I don't want people messing around

1671
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 1: with the where it gets skinny. We're gonna do the

1672
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: thigh legs. That's where we're at, and we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: that as the as the dual surf and turf loves it,

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Speaker 1: we're your dessert, give it. Uh. Actually this is pretty simple.

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Speaker 1: A nice crumb cherry pie with homemade vanilla bean ace cream.

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01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: That's a delicious dessert that doesn't get enough love. I

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01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 1: wish it was available more. My grandma used to make it.

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01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: Love it love that vermillion Papa, he would be enjoying.

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Speaker 1: He should be involved in this conversation right now. By

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Speaker 1: the way, the drink of there's a keg of either

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Speaker 1: PBR or the bat light in the corner. I'm throwing

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Speaker 1: yellow jackets. I'm starting with I'm starting with high end tequila.

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Speaker 1: I'm moving into delectable Napa cabs. We are going to

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Speaker 1: end with a banana pudding paired with pappy or pair

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Speaker 1: whatever what. I like that. You got a little crumb

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Speaker 1: on the bottom of that. Well, we're gonna have nills.

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01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a nilla wafer crusts. So we finished

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Speaker 1: in the same place. So I I the best banana

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Speaker 1: kareem pie ever had was Emeralds Uh in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Is my favorite banana cream pie. That would be my

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Speaker 1: that would be my dessert as well. You could talk

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01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: to me into for my grandfather who loved I'm really excited.

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01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 1: You just you just dropped three restaurants around here. No

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01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 1: bills for Gibby for a while on all three of those.

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01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 1: What's the ba the banana pudding pudding? Banana pudding is

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Speaker 1: a proper pig in the Lakewood proper. They catered my

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Speaker 1: wedding big all right, there you go. Oh God, that'd

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Speaker 1: be fun. I'm hungry now I'm starving, so much more

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Speaker 1: to come. You listen to Cleveland on daily on Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Brown's Daily Fun program. We're back tomorrow. Thanks for everybody

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Speaker 1: for listening to the next levels coming up next, Cleveland

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