1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers unscripted from 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: by the one and the only, Weston had Kowitz. We're 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: coming to you here once again from distant locations at 5 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: lambeau Field West. Maybe maybe fingers crossed the last time 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: in a while that we'll have to do the show 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: this way. No promises, no guarantees. We will see what 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: next week brings. But in the meantime, since our last show, 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: the Packers held their last two public practices of training 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: camp out at Raynichki Field on Tuesday and Wednesday. Wednesday 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: was an awfully hot one, but everybody seemed to get 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 1: through it. Okay, your observations. As the Packers wrapped up 13 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: these last two public practices. 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: Rashan Gary wanted to play some foot. It was my observation. 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Mike uh. He's been going through 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: the individuals the last couple of weeks. As Matt Lefuller 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: told us earlier this week, he was finally going to 18 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: take that next step to team. I was so incredibly 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: impressed by what I saw from number fifty two. First 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 3: and foremost, he took two to one on one reps 21 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: in the offensive line versus defensive front drills and going 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: up against Zach Tom, who is a terrific offensive lineman. 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 3: I think is gonna be a good starter for the 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 3: Packers for years to come. But when you see the 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: when they always say there's levels to this game. That's 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: a big phrase in MMA. But there Rashaan Gary's on 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: another level now. Because the one thing I took away 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: from his two reps against Tom, and a lot of 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: it was just showing his natural strength and also some 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: of the pressures he had on Jordan Love and the 31 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: team periods had one of the sacks I think you 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: would call perceived sack and one of the one of 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: the team's drills. 34 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Rashaan Gary that. 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: Is so impressive to me when we came in and 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: he's a twenty one year old kid and everybody knows, okay, 37 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: you know, he's he's going to be a project here, 38 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: but there's a lot of potential there. We talked about 39 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: how he would rely on his bull rush a lot 40 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: right right out of the gate. When you talk about 41 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: all the other tools and the other the other weapons 42 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 3: that can be used in his Arsenal. I think that's 43 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: what we're seeing with Rashaun Gary in those rushes against 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 3: Zach Tom. You know, he used some speed, he used 45 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: some speed to power, he used his power to get 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: out of a stalemates situation. The guy's just so darn resourceful. 47 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: And we saw it last year those first nine games. 48 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he was on trek to being a Pro 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: Bowl player. Then unfortunately the acl happened in Detroit. So 50 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: hopefully for him that's all in the past. But I'll 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: tell you what, for a guy that hasn't played football 52 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: in what nine to ten months, he came out looking 53 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: like he was just guns of blazon. Yeah. 54 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: And you talk about the development of the repertoire, I mean, 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the progression that you see from 56 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: these guys like Rashaan Gary, who the first thing he 57 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: had to do when he was drafted and came to 58 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: the Packers and the three four defenses, he had to 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: learn how to play defense standing up as opposed to 60 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: in a three point stance with his hand in the dirt. 61 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: There's there first, there's that transition. So early on, they're 62 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: still just going to have that one move to rely 63 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: upon and then all the other moves have to come. 64 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: And you know, he had guys like Zadarius Smith and 65 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: Preston Smith and these other guys to learn from, and 66 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: the coaching staff and everything else. And we've just seen 67 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: this steady progression from him, and we're seeing Lucas Fanness 68 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: going through that same kind of transition right now, played 69 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: mostly with his hand in the dirt at Iowa, and 70 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: he's learning how to play standing up and learning all 71 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: the responsibilities on the edge. And Lucas van Ness has 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: not developed all the pass rush moves that that he's 73 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: going to have either. And there are so many parallels 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: there that hopefully for the Packers, he on the same 75 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: trajectory as Rashan Gary. But I agree with you with 76 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: just the I don't know if energy is a use. 77 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: That's word, a word that's used a lot, and I 78 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: don't even know if that word quite exemplifies what Rashan 79 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: Gary brought to these last couple of public practices. There 80 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: was something different about this Packers defense with him on 81 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: the field. I think his teammates were excited to have 82 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: him back. He's a wrecking ball in some respects, and 83 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: there are no guarantees yet that he'll be available for 84 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: Week one. Things are certainly trending in that direction, and 85 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: hopefully the Packers can get him out there against the 86 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: Bears at Soldier Field comes September tenth. 87 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: This quote is so good. I want to make sure 88 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: I get this right. 89 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 3: I typically don't go off screen during Packer's unscripted but 90 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: I want to make sure I get this right from 91 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: what mattch Steiman had tweeted to us or sent to 92 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: us earlier this week. And I'm not gonna be able 93 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: to find it because he probably put twenty three instead 94 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: of Alexander. Let's look, no, no, not gonna find it. 95 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 3: I'm going to paraphrase it. I hope I'm not gonna 96 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 3: botch it. But basically, Alexander said he feels like Superman 97 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: when Rashon Gary's on the field, and I think that 98 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: is the sentiment that everybody shares in terms of Yeah, 99 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: in addition to the fact it's going to put more 100 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: pressure on the quarterback and decrease his time clock to 101 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: be able to get that ball out, it's how everybody 102 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: around him raises their level of play. And I think 103 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: when you have a premier pass rusher in this league, 104 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: that is what the trickle down effect is. When you 105 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: look at the Packers' defenses in the early Clay Matthews era, 106 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: when you talk about you know, Aaron Kamptman in the 107 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: mid two thousands, Reggie White, the list goes on and 108 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: on those type of players, they set the tone. And 109 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: I felt like, you know, Rashon Gary for still being 110 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: as young as he is, it's all still out there 111 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: for Michael and as you touched on, and I think 112 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: one of the things you've been working on too, story wise, 113 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 3: is when you have a Rashon Gary, when you have 114 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: a Preston Smith, a Kingsley, Enigbari and then Kenny Clark 115 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 3: and these other guys that can get after a quarterback, 116 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: you make an offense start to make some decisions. And 117 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: if for Shawn Gary's going to get doubled this season 118 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 3: whenever he is out there, well then that's opportunities for 119 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: one on one matchups for Preston Smith, DeVante wy At 120 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 3: Kenny Clark. That's the exciting thing I think about having 121 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: Rashon Gary back in this defense. 122 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just what we've seen in his couple 123 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: of days back, he is going to command so much 124 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: attention from opposing offenses, and I think that's that's going 125 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: to change, create opportunities for other players, as you said, 126 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: and one of the stories that I've posted now on 127 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 1: Packers dot com is just looking at where the Packers 128 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: are at outside linebacker heading into twenty twenty three compared 129 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: to how they ended twenty twenty two. Because you didn't 130 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you had Preston Smith, who I believe he 131 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: had five of his eight and a half sacks last 132 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: season after Rashaun Gary left the lineup. But you didn't 133 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: have Gary. You had Nigbari, who was a fifth round 134 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: rookie who was just trying to figure things out. You 135 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: had Justin Hollins come in trying to reacclimate himself as 136 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: quickly as he could to Joe Berry's defense, and he 137 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: certainly made a contribution. Jonathan Garvin was taking some snaps, 138 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: not providing a whole lot of production. They were just 139 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: trying to survive at that position quite frankly down the 140 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: stretch last year without Gary. Now you fast forward here, 141 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: Gary's on his way back. Preston Smith is Preston Smith. 142 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: You've added a first round pick in Lucas van Ness 143 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: Kings Leanninggbari just had a two SAT game in the preseason. 144 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: He's showing the year two jump. Justin Hollins has now 145 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: been here, he's settled, he's settled in more. And you 146 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: have an undrafted guy in Breton Cox who's who showed 147 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: enough promise early that the Packers moved on from Jonathan 148 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: Garvin and Breton Cox could be an undrafted rookie who 149 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: ends up making this fifty three when roster decisions are 150 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: made next week. The depth at outside linebacker right now 151 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: compared to nine months ago is night and. 152 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: Day two things one. 153 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: Aaron Moseby also got claimed in the midway through camp. 154 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: I think Moseby's had a really nice camp too, for 155 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: a guy that unfortunately is kind of at the bottom 156 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: of that depth chart just based on attrition and the 157 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: guys who have been here. I can now get that 158 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: quote correct though, because I'm all about the accuracy here. Mike, 159 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: you know that this is what Jayer said. A healthy 160 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: Rashaun Gary is like Superman in my opinion. He makes 161 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: my job easier, a whole lot easier. If I was 162 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: on ESPN, That's how I would close my segment and 163 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: I would just and then back to you, Mike. 164 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: Okay. Well, the other thing I think that's worth talking 165 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: about here is the packers wrapped up these public practices 166 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: as we saw. I think in a lot of ways, 167 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: these practices finished up the way they started, and that 168 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: we saw hot a lot of well hot, yes, but 169 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: we saw a lot of We saw a lot of 170 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: back and forth in terms of the you know, the 171 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: defense providing some challenge to the offense and then the 172 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: offense responds, and then the defense responds, and you know, 173 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: there over these last couple of days, there were stretches 174 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: where the pass Russ was really getting after Jordan Love 175 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: for you know, a sequence of plays, and then suddenly 176 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: the offense settles in and Love starts to find his 177 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: rhythm and hits some passes. Then we see the you know, 178 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: I believe it was on Wednesday. We see the offense 179 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: looking like, you know, they're hitting some nice running plays, 180 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: and then the next thing, you know, TJ. Slayton is 181 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: in the backfield, you know, three or four times in 182 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: a span of you know, like eight or nine plays 183 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: or something like that. The back and forth, and then 184 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: the epitome of that was the the last two two 185 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: minute drills. The number one defense won the drill with 186 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Rasul Douglass getting an interception on a pass for Romeo Dobbs. 187 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: But then Sean Clifford Misster two minute takes the number 188 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: twos down the field, hits a fourth down touchdown pass 189 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: to Grant Dubo's adds the two point conversion on top 190 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: of that, so you have the defense win one, the 191 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: offense win one in the two minute drills. At the end, 192 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: it just seemed like these last couple of days everything 193 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: was about the one side challenging the other and trying 194 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: to trying to push the other side to provide an answer. 195 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: And I have to believe Matt Lafleur liked a lot 196 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: of what he saw in that regard. 197 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: I think you're one hundred percent right about that. But 198 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 3: the other aspect of it, I think that is so 199 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: refreshing is when you have a young team like this, 200 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: how exciting and energetic these practices have been. And not 201 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: to say that, you know, when it was Clay Matthews 202 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: and Jordy Nelson and Aaron Rodgers and all that they 203 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: weren't there was plenty to be you know, taken from. 204 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: But there are some like when you go into those 205 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: one on one periods. You don't know always who's going 206 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: to prevail in those. I think that's where I first 207 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: started to know TJ. Slayton, to be honest with you, 208 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: and he's had you know, I've said this time and 209 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: time again, I think him, Rashid Walker, those guys are 210 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: probably in the conversation for most improved player. I mean, 211 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: Kingsley Ningbari contributed at the end of last season, but 212 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: you know, he was a fifth round pick and he 213 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: already seen some of that growth. Those two guys have 214 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: just blown me away just with the role that potentially 215 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: they might have to play on this team this season. 216 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: And Walker co went from a guy that didn't play 217 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: at all last year to a guy that now is 218 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: you know, being charged in these practices as the left 219 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: tackle for Jordan Love and in the preseason game as 220 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: well last week. So to your original point here, yeah, 221 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 3: I think the give and take of the offense and 222 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: defense is sort of indicative of a young football team 223 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: kind of growing together. And the same way in which 224 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: you look at those Patriots practices. The Packers take it 225 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: to the Patriots the first day, the Patriots respond back 226 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: to second There's a challenge there there is a motivation 227 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: and a competitive fire. I think that comes out of 228 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: both of those two sides of the ball working against 229 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: one another. The hope would be for the green Bay 230 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: Packers now as you get through this game against Seattle, 231 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: hopefully healthy, get through the fifty three man cut, and 232 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: start building to that game against Chicago, that you have 233 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: a much better football team than you did eight weeks ago. 234 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 3: And I feel like that's where green Bay has really 235 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: grown the most in terms of just the development and 236 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: the maturation. This is one of those training camps where 237 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: I think you can literally look at players and see 238 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 3: the growth. And for some of the Packers' bets in 239 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: the past, it was about okay, getting back to that baseline, 240 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: where do we need, what's the play style, what's everything 241 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: like that. Matt Lafleur is establishing all of that right 242 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: now and I think that played into also these young guys, 243 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: you know, getting this action in the preseason games, because 244 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: one of the things I wrote an insider inbox this 245 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: week was the fact that you have a bunch of 246 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: guys that need snaps and we are no longer in 247 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: the Larry mccaerran to a day's fifty one practices or 248 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 3: whatever of training camp. You got two dozen training prep 249 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 3: practice training camp practices in three preseason games. 250 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: You have to make those opportunities really count. 251 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And I want to talk to you more 252 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: about this preseason finale coming up against Seattle, but I'll 253 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: take care of some sponsor business for serious XM. NFL 254 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the minute 255 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: NFL news that true football fanatics need twenty four to seven, 256 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: three sixty five. And at Cousin Subs, we have something 257 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: for everyone. 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One preseason game 267 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: to go Weston and the there's a there's gonna be 268 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot to pay attention to in this game, whether 269 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: you're talking about the battle for the last spots at 270 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver again, that number three running back spot. What's 271 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, going to happen with some final decisions at 272 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: defensive back? You know how they're going to piece that together, 273 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: and certainly special teams plays a role in all that, 274 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: and then special teams themselves. There are still two punters 275 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: and two long snappers on this roster that have that 276 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: have had a training camp long competition at both of 277 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: those spots. So where will where will your eyes be 278 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: trained on come Saturday? After Oh, by the way, it's 279 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: an afternoon preseason game at Lambeufield, a noon Central time kickoff. 280 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: A rarity here in Green Bay. Not that I'm complaining, 281 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: because work wise it's much nicer to have afternoon games. 282 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: But back to my question, what will you be watching 283 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: for come kickoff at noon Saturday against the Seahawks. 284 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: It's an excellent question because there are so many different 285 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: ways you can take this thing offensively. 286 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: What does that number one unit look like with Jordan Love? 287 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: How many series do they see? 288 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: They had two in the first game, three in the second, 289 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: although I think that was kind of brought on a 290 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: little bit by the Botch snap there earlier. But the 291 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: fact is is that you know, how long does Matt 292 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: Lafleur want these guys to play. Sean Clifford probably can 293 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: use the reps, but he's gotten a lot of reps 294 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: at this point. So you know, when does Alex Magoog 295 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: get into the game. He's only played that one game 296 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: and unfortunately for him, it was an eight r touchdown 297 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: on his first snap. As cool as that was for 298 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: the Packers offense, not really a chance for the usfl 299 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: ringing in VP to show what his arm can do. So, 300 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: you know, those type of things are going to be important. Certainly, 301 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: the safety battle is going right down to the wire 302 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: when you look at you know where they're going to 303 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: be trying to find that that one two combination with 304 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: Darnell Savage. That whole thing's come full circle again. Ruby 305 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: Ford back with the starters this week, yep. And you 306 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: know t Varius Moore has taken those snaps. Jonathan Owens 307 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: has taken those snaps over and over and over and 308 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: they kind of. 309 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: Unfortunately unfortunately for more now he's injured. He got hurt 310 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: his knee in the last preseason game, so bad bad 311 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: timing for him. But we'll see, we'll see what happens 312 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: here these next few days. 313 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: The number three running back battle, the offensive line battle. 314 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: But the one thing I challenge people to look at 315 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: and keep an eye on. This is not the most 316 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: attractive thing to pay attention to, but the coverage teams, 317 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: offensive kickoff and the punt return units. Very interested to 318 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: see what that personnel looks like. We've seen from Ritz Pasacci. 319 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: He's willing to mix and match. So I wouldn't take 320 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: everything as you know, chapter and verse in terms of 321 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: what the starters are, so to speak. But I always 322 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: go back, dude. James Crawford twenty eighteen. He made the 323 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: Packers roster based on special teams in the Packers' pre 324 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: season finale in Kansas City. There's going to be at 325 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: least one of those type of situations where somebody steps up, 326 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: somebody makes their presence felt. Because as much as the 327 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: Packers are building this offensive defense, they're also building these 328 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: special teams this defense as well. And when you lose 329 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: a guy like Tyler Davis, who was your leading player 330 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: in terms of special teams snap scene last season. I 331 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: think he played like almost eighty percent of the snaps, 332 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: that is going to be a big challenge for Green Bay. 333 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: Who's going to step up? 334 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, and you know that these the special teams reps, 335 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: whether it's whether it's a kickoff return, a kickoff cover, 336 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: a punt return, a punt cover, those reps are being 337 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: scrutinized on film over and over and over again by 338 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: the personnel department as they're as they're trying to decide, Okay, 339 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: who are the guys that can be counted on to 340 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: get the job done in that phase? Who are the 341 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: guys who are separating themselves in that regard. The Packers 342 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: have a fair number of veterans now on special teams. 343 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: That's been one of the big shifts in terms of 344 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: the roster and the personnel in that face since Rich 345 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: Pasacci came in. But there are a lot of young 346 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: guys who you know, are trying to make a name 347 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: from themselves, and they're not necessarily going to be second 348 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: string on offense or defense, but there are going to 349 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: be some roster spots available, and can they put something 350 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: on film that's going to get them noticed and get 351 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: them a chance to either be on the fifty three 352 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: or be brought back on the practice squad next week 353 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: when all these roster machinations take place. 354 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 3: And maliek Keith is the guy also, Mike that I'll 355 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: probably have my eye on the most I mean undrafted rookies. 356 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: We know the history and the backstory with the Green 357 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 3: Bay Packers and at those spots. If he can put 358 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: together a strong performance in this preseason finale against Seattle, 359 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: I don't know what that all means for Tuesday and 360 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 3: how the Packers will sort through it. But this is 361 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: a guy that Mike, you and I were talking about 362 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 3: him at OTAs and he has just continually done it 363 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: over and over again, so impressive. It reminds you of 364 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: the Allen Lizards, the Jake Kumeros, where you have an 365 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: inundation of draft picks at receiver. You remember when Kummero 366 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 3: made it the first time. I gave Jake no chance 367 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: at making the fifty three because they had three rookie 368 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 3: draft picks that year. Just so turned out that, you know, 369 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 3: you had Marcus Veldez scantling, but otherwise there was a 370 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 3: lot of opportunities still there even though there were those 371 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 3: incoming picks. This is going to be critical to see 372 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 3: exactly how the Packers shuffle this out. I do not 373 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: envy Brian Goudikuntz and his scouts. I know they relish 374 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 3: these opportunities. I know it's a challenge for them and 375 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: it's an excitement that they don't have to go too well, 376 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: we got forty seven players, and who else do we 377 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: want to fill up this roster with now? I mean, 378 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: it is going to be a tedious cut to fifty three, 379 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: no doubt about it. 380 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 2: I think. 381 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: One of the things, and we'll kind of close on this. 382 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: One of the things that has struck me about watching 383 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 1: Malie Heath, as you said, we've watched him, you know, 384 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: through all the way since he arrived here, is that 385 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: a lot of times when undrafted guys catch your eye, 386 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: it's always like, oh, like where where's where's he from? 387 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: Or what school did he come from? And you know, 388 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: you look up and you try to get to know 389 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: him a little bit. Yeah, if you didn't know the 390 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: background for of of Malie Keith, the question you'd be 391 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: asking is what round was this guy drafted in? I mean, 392 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: and that's that That's not always That's not always the case. 393 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: Undrafted guys will still kind of look like undrafted guys, right, 394 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: he hasn't looked like one. The question it's it's like 395 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: you're wondering, what round was he drafted and he wasn't 396 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: drafted at all, and he's uh, he's made a strong case. 397 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: But we don't know. Are the Packers going to keep 398 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: five receivers or six receivers or seven receivers, how many 399 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: are going to be on the fifty three, how many 400 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: will they want to bring back on the practice squad. 401 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: We really don't know what's going to happen here. There 402 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: are always there are always decisions that are made that 403 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: nobody saw coming right in terms of how the how 404 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: the initial fifty three is built and how that practice 405 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: squad gets put together. So we will we will just 406 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: have to see, but there will be There are a 407 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: lot of nervous time between the end of the game 408 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: on Saturday and when the decisions are made on Tuesday. 409 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: It's a tough time for these players, but it's also 410 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: what they signed up for, right Yeah. 411 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: And the one that probably is going to tug at 412 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: your heart strings the most, at least tug at my 413 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 3: heart strings, is the running back competition, because you got 414 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 3: a bunch of dudes that are all good, solid guys 415 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 3: competing for that number three spot. Patrick Taylor has been 416 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: here for three and a half years. I mean Obviously 417 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: the injury that he had kind of wiped out his 418 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 3: rookie season, but has been one of the more beloved 419 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: players at locker room, very close, tight knit group. Obviously 420 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: contributed on special teams. Tyler Goodson, I thought, did everything 421 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: that is physically possible to make a run at the 422 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: fifty three this year. Unfortunately he gets the shoulder injury 423 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 3: at the wrong time. We'll see how things play out 424 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: for him this week. And then also, I mean Emmanuel Wilson. 425 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: The stories don't get much better than this kid Division 426 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: two Fort Valley State, you know, coming in and being 427 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: a late add to this roster as the Packers are 428 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: looking for an extra running back and some guys being 429 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 3: banged up, and then he ends up having you know, 430 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: he's leading the NFL right now in preseason rushing. I mean, yeah, 431 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 3: that is that is probably gonna be the one the most. 432 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 3: It's like, you don't You'll be happy for whoever prevails, 433 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: assuming the Packers do keep three, hoping that they keep three, 434 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 3: but yeah, your heart kind of goes out to the 435 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 3: rest of them because that that whole group has been 436 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 3: a lot of fun to cover this summer. 437 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think as as we know injuries. Injuries 438 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: are never good, They're always unfortunate, right, But I think 439 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: aside from Tyler Davis being lost for the season to 440 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: the knee injury from the Cincinnati preseason game, there was 441 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: maybe no more unfortunate injury in this training camp than 442 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: Tyler Goodson with that shoulder injury, because because all the 443 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: way up until the time he got hurt, he looked 444 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: like he was really really making a statement and making 445 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: a run at this fifty three man roster and to 446 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: be that number three guy. But he has not been 447 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: able to get back on the field since then, So 448 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: you just don't know how these how these things ultimately 449 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: are going to go. 450 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: Maybe this week we'll see, Maybe this week. 451 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: You never know, you never know. With that, we'll call 452 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be 453 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: sure to follow all of our coverage of the team 454 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: as training camp wraps up, as the preseason wraps up 455 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: with Saturday's game against the Seahawks. We will have it 456 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: all for you on Packers dot com for Wesim Mike. 457 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will see you 458 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: next time.