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Speaker 2: Podcast starts now. Welcome to the episode. This is Stradia Lab,

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Speaker 2: by the way, and we couldn't be better.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling amazing, George.

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Speaker 2: I have to be completely honest, I need to ask

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Speaker 2: you this this and part of it. You know this

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Speaker 2: actually is sort of an amazing collab with our guests.

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Speaker 2: But I do need to say, are you not at me. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling intensity.

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Speaker 1: You keep putting it and putting me on the spot today. Crazy.

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Speaker 3: Are you mad? Though?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not mad.

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Speaker 4: What happened in the last episode, it was just like

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Speaker 1: It's it's so funny that this is how we're starting,

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Speaker 1: because what happened with the last episode is we were like,

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Speaker 1: still the friday after the election, okay. And for the

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Speaker 1: last episode, I I sort of came in and I

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'm not ready to talk. I

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Speaker 1: would like to at some point for my thoughts and

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Speaker 4: The election on our breaking a seal.

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Speaker 1: Breaking yes, which is a very comedy podcast.

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Speaker 4: Breaking the seal is when you're when you're recording your

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Speaker 4: comedy podcast after a devastating global tragedy.

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Speaker 1: And I do want to say Catherine that I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about this. You were the first remote record we

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Speaker 4: If you think I do remember, I remember so vivid when.

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Speaker 1: My started our first I want to.

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Speaker 1: You're scaring me, it's crazy, so scary. First, our first

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Speaker 1: who should our first Lockdown Guestspie? And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I know, just the gal, I know, just the cabaret.

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Speaker 4: I I remember exactly, like I remember where I was sitting,

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Speaker 2: I remember being like, well, this will be perfect because

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Speaker 4: That's so psycho.

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Speaker 1: And I also remember you had just I felt very

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Speaker 4: You know, those became so tiresome and painful, but people

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Speaker 3: No, people know people do. They were desperate for.

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Speaker 4: Something and people love your pot and want to laugh

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Speaker 3: We're breaking the seal.

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Speaker 4: You say, what can we do? But move forward? I guess.

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Speaker 1: And maybe the first time that something was not going

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Speaker 4: I'm glad. Do you think that.

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Speaker 3: Don't take play?

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Speaker 1: Oh, don't take Plumber four.

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Speaker 1: If there's one thing we can all do in the

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Speaker 4: I'm not taking It's not.

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Speaker 1: Actually, if the Democratic Party is listening at my message

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Speaker 1: You did everything right. Joys have to keep doing the

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Speaker 2: The issue is that's already what they're doing. That's literally

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Speaker 4: People are so weird in this country, and by weird,

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Speaker 4: I mean racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, transphobic, shout.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing is that one can have all of the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well they lead to one another feeling all the fuels.

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Speaker 4: The assignment was so easy.

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Speaker 2: It was literally like so easy, and it's always been easy.

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Speaker 4: Slam should have been a slam dunk this And said,

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Speaker 1: They fumbled the bag, bro, they fumbled hard.

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Speaker 4: I know. No, it is an interesting balance, like we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, it's complicated, but.

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Speaker 4: Just tell me everyone, just I mean, this is it's

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Speaker 1: No, it's it's working, because sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes we'll

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Speaker 4: a movie. You're here. Totally.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it your background is paaster.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's it's because it's on purpose.

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Speaker 4: Because that's what I'm going for.

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Speaker 1: And actually, you know, I just you know, for anyone

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Speaker 1: you know, I do have all these books behind me.

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Speaker 3: I'm grabbing.

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Speaker 4: I'm grabbing my now is it Pelgrino? I couldn't remember

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Speaker 3: God, I always forget is it Perier or Pellegrino?

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Speaker 1: that are both kind of related to the Pellegrino class.

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Speaker 4: No, who said that to you people?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so people say that it's out there.

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Speaker 3: To me, it implies like nonfiction, like they're like working like.

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Speaker 1: The book project is about like, oh, it's on you know,

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Speaker 3: Well, but it's not a book, it's a book project.

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Speaker 4: Are people avoiding saying they're working on a book because

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Speaker 2: typing right. Book project is like it implies papers on

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Speaker 4: Or Also, book project implies like I have this material

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Speaker 4: and should the form. Perhaps it will emerge as a book,

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Speaker 4: but it could become something else because it's the theme

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be an eight episode podcast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is a limited series. Let's release this in like

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Speaker 4: three ten minute chunks.

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Speaker 1: Let's release this in fifteen Quibi's.

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Speaker 2: You know, I actually think that would be a fun

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Speaker 2: direction for our podcast to take, where it's like, for

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Speaker 2: the next month, we're with Catherine Cohen's.

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Speaker 3: Daily. Yeah, we are.

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Speaker 2: Diving into something very specific every day, and that it's

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Speaker 1: That's gonna say. It's than Catherine.

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Speaker 1: So I've always okay, wait, my second point about the

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Speaker 1: Pelagrino class and this is not a point, but it's

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Speaker 1: I want my data.

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Speaker 4: I think you should. Did you are you? Were you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I thank you. I was like, I

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I will say bags that are gendered

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Speaker 3: I don't want that.

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Speaker 4: We should reinvent the briefcase.

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Speaker 3: There's no sense of play. It's so serious.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, I want a bag that eight

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Speaker 1: I know what you mean.

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Speaker 4: I think the bag I have would suit you. Well,

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you foring up, because actually, yesterday I walked

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Speaker 4: I said, no one's talking about my bag because it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's too bad, Trump one. And then we

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Speaker 4: I live, I love in Hell, I love in Hell.

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Speaker 4: Wait, I do think you need a non gendered leather bag.

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Speaker 1: I need a non gender here's what I need, Okay,

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Speaker 1: And I've like planned this out, and I wonder how

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Speaker 4: That's so hot. You kind of want to dress like

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Speaker 3: That's really smart smart.

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Speaker 1: And I think the shirt can change and I think

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Speaker 3: No, I think that's cheek. I think that's cheek.

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Speaker 2: But George, you're kind of scaring me, Like why it's

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Speaker 4: George saw that I have a blazer in a leather

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Speaker 4: I crave her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, casual, casual, perfect style.

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Speaker 4: You know what, Sam, I have to bring this up.

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Speaker 4: This shirt reminds me of our date.

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Speaker 4: No, but it's just reminds me that we've went on it.

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Speaker 1: Georgie, Wait, when was your day this last time?

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Speaker 3: This date was before anything was wrong in the world.

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Speaker 4: Actually, it was pre twenty sixteen Trump. It was pre

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Speaker 1: We were like, that is when things that's when things

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Speaker 1: The rise I'm like basically being completely ernest here. The

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Speaker 3: But anyway, yeah, we went on a date.

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Speaker 4: Two we just like went like bar hopping, but all

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Speaker 2: It was so flirty and it was like we should

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Speaker 4: I wish because you know you're my dad. I've always

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Speaker 1: I recently had that, really recently had that with Amy Zimmer.

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Speaker 4: And I feel you and I have a yearly drink

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Speaker 1: Catherine the way that I. I know you're so hard

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Speaker 3: Like that because you're hard to read.

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Speaker 4: Do you really think that not hard to read? That's

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Speaker 4: hard to I'm actually shattered. I'm actually shattered because you

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Speaker 1: That's not true. That's not Truere's what happens. You are

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Speaker 4: It's only because I was milking. I had one show

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I shot it. I haven't really spoken

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Speaker 3: Oh that's never come out.

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Speaker 4: It's actually yet too air. And I worked on it,

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Speaker 4: but we celebrate that.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it's not cool. God, I love our media landscape.

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Speaker 4: But I'm shattered that you think I'm hard to reach

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Speaker 4: because I'm actually famously really good at texting back.

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Speaker 1: Really, so if you are good at texting back, it's okay,

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Speaker 3: We're fact checking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you have a tell. Can I say what

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Speaker 1: it is? What? When you are I think that when

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Speaker 4: I text that a lot.

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Speaker 4: I for me, that means like that it's even funnier

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Speaker 4: It's very sincere. Yeah, okay, that's interesting. No, it's good

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not about that.

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Speaker 2: I think most of the people that we, you know,

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Speaker 4: I do feel like so many of our friends cannot

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Speaker 4: So at least, at least, I feel like I feel

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Speaker 4: like you both respond. I respond, I.

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Speaker 1: Think, and I joke. Yeah, I'm being jokey joky, but

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Speaker 4: Actually of course, mister Joki Joki, mister I'm sorry to interapt,

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Speaker 1: No, but I do think time also flies, Like I

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Speaker 1: remember our last date that we had at this point

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is about shaming it's I think we've all

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Speaker 4: been quite busy. If you got married, you moved to La,

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Speaker 4: I was kind of interested when we were talking about

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Speaker 3: Are you not talking about the show or my lack

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Speaker 4: Well, the amazing mashup that's resulted, like because I think

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Speaker 4: this what I wanted? Like, yeah, how are you feeling?

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Speaker 3: It's complicated. I've been working this job for it's coming

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Speaker 2: A month away from it being a year, and it's

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Speaker 4: It's also like it's really like we're doing it live,

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Speaker 2: Doing it live, the show's coming out no matter what.

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Speaker 2: It's like very fun. I really like the room, but

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Speaker 4: You must get home and just pass the fuck out.

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Speaker 3: I'm so tired.

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Speaker 4: Well sorry, okay. Caviat caat on your lower east side.

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Speaker 1: It really is. You're self discipline on that front is

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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry that you're going through that.

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Speaker 3: I want to that's really tough.

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Speaker 4: First America now, and I.

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Speaker 1: Will say, it's you know, the star time is on

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Speaker 2: No, I've just been like what I feel like, I

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Speaker 4: Do you do you feel, say to George, I feel

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Speaker 1: I think? So here's what I'll say. I there was

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Speaker 1: And there's something that's like I need to get back

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Speaker 4: Basically work and play.

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Speaker 4: Show, and laundry Jim laundry show. I mean, I haven't

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Speaker 2: Well, and I gotta be because of the shows in

446
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Speaker 2: LA are not as fun they are.

447
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Speaker 3: I am.

448
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Speaker 4: But do you feel in touch with the line of

449
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 4: comedy scene in New York, George?

450
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, I feel like an elder.

451
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 4: I feel like an elder.

452
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Speaker 1: I definitely feel like an elder. However, there are enough people,

453
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Speaker 1: you know. I was at Max's apartment last night, and

454
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,359
Speaker 1: there were he just like had a few people over

455
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 1: and I was looking around. I was like, there are

456
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Speaker 1: actually enough people here that have been here from the start,

457
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Speaker 1: and I feel I am in community with and like

458
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Speaker 1: so I don't feel as alienated as I have felt

459
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Speaker 1: at times in the past.

460
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Speaker 4: Totally.

461
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Speaker 1: I am. I was touring over the summer and that

462
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,439
Speaker 1: felt I really felt like I was soaring because I

463
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 1: was like doing I had never toured by myself before,

464
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Speaker 1: and I felt like I was like really evolving and

465
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Speaker 1: doing something. And then as soon as I came back

466
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Speaker 1: to New York, it was just like, like I I

467
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 1: didn't make an effort to be booked on stuff here,

468
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: so I just like came back and stopped performing basically

469
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Speaker 1: for like like two months. Yeah, and I think the

470
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: whiplash of that is getting to me a little bit.

471
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Speaker 4: I feel that so much.

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Speaker 1: I feel then, Yeah, sometimes you will. I had a

473
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Speaker 1: sometimes you'll talk to a younger person and the things

474
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 1: that they say about like what they're what come, what

475
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: the comedy lifestyle is like now are just so unrelatable

476
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 1: and so completely different. Just like I mean, I don't

477
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 1: it sounds so cliche, but just like literally people being like, okay,

478
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: so what you have to do is just like no

479
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: matter whether anything is funni er good or not, just

480
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: like post twice a day and you have to you

481
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Speaker 1: have to post like once at nine am, once at

482
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Speaker 1: one pm, and then if you do it enough, you

483
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: will that just the way it works is that you

484
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Speaker 1: will go viral, even if like it's just a matter

485
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Speaker 1: of like quantity. It's just like if you flood the algorithm,

486
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Speaker 1: you will at some point go viral. And then when

487
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Speaker 1: you do go viral, then if you do that approximately

488
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 1: like once every four months, then within two years you

489
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,479
Speaker 1: can get this number of followers and then you can

490
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Speaker 1: start making so much money through brand deals. And literally

491
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Speaker 1: last night, you know, I was talking to someone. She

492
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Speaker 1: was like yeah, and then and then this person I

493
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: know got to coach deal and so then you just

494
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: post that and then that's how you make your money

495
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: and then you're able to like fund your stand up

496
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Speaker 1: career through that.

497
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Speaker 4: And I was just like, oh my god.

498
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Speaker 1: It's just like when I think about what we were

499
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Speaker 1: talking about, which was like which open mics to go to,

500
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Speaker 1: and it was so pure.

501
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Speaker 4: So wait, I had a question because I feel like,

502
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Speaker 4: so I think about this all the time too. But

503
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Speaker 4: it's like, now we live in a world where first

504
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Speaker 4: of all, there's too many famous people. Everyone's famous, yes,

505
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Speaker 4: and also for somehow not us. First of all, we're

506
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Speaker 4: the most famous people in the world. Let me say

507
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Speaker 4: this what I feel like, having all of followers doesn't

508
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Speaker 4: mean anything anymore.

509
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Speaker 3: Well, we've talked about this. It doesn't mean anything.

510
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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean anything, right, It's.

511
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Speaker 3: Like sometimes even it means the opposite.

512
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because a tours are coming at you with three

513
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Speaker 4: four thousand followers.

514
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Speaker 3: Because they're out tours because about the art, because.

515
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Speaker 4: They're doing the craft, they're not doing the nine a MS.

516
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Speaker 4: But I try and do a little.

517
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Speaker 3: Both, Honey, I want my feet in both.

518
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to play the game but still make something

519
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 4: that I care about. It's not it's not easy.

520
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Speaker 3: It's not easy.

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Speaker 1: I actually think you have You are one of the

522
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Speaker 1: few people that has.

523
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Speaker 3: You're doing both. That is so both.

524
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Speaker 4: But you know what I am I've noticed. What I've

525
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 4: noticed is people so like you have to build these

526
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 4: crowd work moments into your shows, which feels totally unnatural

527
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Speaker 4: and weird, so that you have because I'm like, oh yeah,

528
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Speaker 4: I'll post I'll post all my jokes, but then I

529
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Speaker 4: only have that many because then I have an hour,

530
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Speaker 4: and then I you know, no.

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Speaker 1: That is what people are doing. It seems so obvious

532
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: in retrospect, and yet I just can't. It seems so

533
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Speaker 1: unnatural to me. I don't know.

534
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Speaker 3: I was fed a crowd work clip recently that was

535
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Speaker 3: edited that.

536
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Speaker 4: Is so I mean, it's so true and that's what

537
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Speaker 4: you would say, but.

538
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Speaker 1: I just.

539
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Speaker 2: Baby very this clip of this stand up doing crowd

540
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Speaker 2: work that was edited so intensely. Every single word had

541
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Speaker 2: like a graphic caption on it, and like the zoom

542
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 2: in's were so constant, and it was as if it

543
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Speaker 2: was the most exciting thing that had ever happened.

544
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Speaker 3: And I was like, this is so boring.

545
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 2: And also the riffs were so mediocre and just like

546
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: it like really reaching, like oh that's like that's like

547
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: driving down the highway with a raccoon on your right

548
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: and like but like zoom in crash, and like it

549
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Speaker 2: made it seem like it was like the most amazing time.

550
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Speaker 3: And I was like, this hurts to watch.

551
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Speaker 1: Are we are?

552
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Speaker 3: We?

553
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Speaker 1: Are we in a uniquely esthetically depraved era? Like because

554
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Speaker 1: I think this is actually like, I honestly think my

555
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: reaction to a lot of this stuff, it's like I

556
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Speaker 1: can pretend it's because I'm oh, I'm so sophisticated that

557
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: god forbid I post that's not my issue, Like I

558
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: can probably get into that headspace and I could probably

559
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Speaker 1: do it, But I actually think what I'm more responding

560
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Speaker 1: to is the ugliness of it, Like I can't. It

561
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: is so like it's not even how is this What

562
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: it has all been leading to is like terrible fonts

563
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Speaker 1: that are not centered and weird impact.

564
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Speaker 4: It's impact. They're using the impact font.

565
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Speaker 2: It's even like they're like you are actively punished. I

566
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: feel if something is thought out and does look nice,

567
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: you're like they're like, well then you're a fake. So

568
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Speaker 2: then paid for and it's like no, it's thought, it's

569
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Speaker 2: set design, it's it's.

570
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Speaker 1: Well yes, because there's something about what user generated content

571
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Speaker 1: is meant to look, like citizen journalism, like it's meant

572
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Speaker 1: to be like on the ground like create, you know.

573
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: And so then when you if you're out there, you know,

574
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Speaker 1: going to film school making a short film about a

575
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Speaker 1: French tutor that ends up being bisexual, I was going say,

576
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: you post that it's so well lit, it's so CPA.

577
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: You post that. Suddenly someone's like, what is this like

578
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 1: some clip from like a TV show? I don't want

579
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Speaker 1: to watch that. I'm here to watch. Someone explain to

580
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Speaker 1: me why, you know, uh why like Megalois is actually

581
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: a metaphor for ancient Greece or whatever.

582
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have you guys seen. We're jumping all over

583
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: the place.

584
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Speaker 4: Very also want to somewhere.

585
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Speaker 3: Okay.

586
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Speaker 2: One thing about this, and I don't want to say

587
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: really quick, is that one of the things that was

588
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: like an echo of twenty sixteen again was these videos

589
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: of like liberal destroys twenty five conservatives.

590
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Speaker 3: Have you seen these now?

591
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: Yes, it's called Jubilee that show.

592
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: No, what's that?

593
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: Am I God?

594
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: They're like mega viral and it's like watch and it's

595
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Speaker 2: like it's like a like a long clip where they

596
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Speaker 2: there's like one blonde boy who's liberal and then he

597
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: are like conservatives come and sit in a chair in

598
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Speaker 2: front of him and they arguable.

599
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Speaker 1: It's Marina Abramovich style.

600
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Speaker 4: It's because I saw one with bud and I go,

601
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Speaker 4: why is Budaje doing Marina?

602
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Speaker 3: The first thought I was like, you people just destroyed

603
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Speaker 3: twenty five.

604
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: York is crying, no, it's no, You're absolutely right, and

605
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: and you and then of course you start thinking, Okay,

606
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: we think why is culture being so repetitive? But maybe

607
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: it's just because we're finally old enough to witness a

608
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: cycle of repetition, and the people that are like sixty

609
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: years old have just been witnessing these cycles for longer,

610
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: so they just know that like inherently. In the nineties,

611
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Speaker 1: there was a debate about political correctness. So it's going

612
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Speaker 1: to come back in another fifteen years and it's going

613
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Speaker 1: to be a debate about wokeness. And then in another

614
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: fifteen years it's gonna be called something else, and it's

615
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: gonna be the same exact debate. And then and then

616
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: affirmative action is going to be debated because people are

617
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: in a certain psychological Freudian space where that's the thing

618
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: that they decide is the enemy. And it's just it's

619
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: these like cycles of national mood and global mood that

620
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: just like naturally happened, because that's because the world is

621
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Speaker 1: like one giant organism that's just like pros this thing

622
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: and unloading things.

623
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Speaker 4: Do you think the trends are cycling faster like, how.

624
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think that give how it

625
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: hans and I do think that is what's difficult. Like

626
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Speaker 1: I almost think Trump coming back it's like a.

627
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Speaker 3: Fast It should be longer. It should have been a decade.

628
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 4: No, genuinely, it's almost been a decade. Well don't say,

629
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Speaker 4: imagine being twenty five the first time and now you're

630
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Speaker 4: one hundred years old.

631
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Speaker 2: No, the way that I'm like, that's honestly one of

632
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: the This is obviously not the main sad point, but.

633
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Speaker 4: This is the saddest thing about all of them.

634
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: No, but that was like I was like, damn so

635
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: much my life will have been spent thinking about this man. Yeah,

636
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: and being like bothered by this man.

637
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Speaker 4: I want to say, the best years of your life.

638
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: May all the.

639
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: People love to say it's like it only gets better.

640
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: No, my forties are going to fucking rock totally so excited.

641
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, my forties are going to be amazing. Well you,

642
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: of course you.

643
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: Our forties are going to be electric.

644
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean, are you kidding me? Blazer, leather bag,

645
00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: it's going to be.

646
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: To do that?

647
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: Now, your sixties are going to be to die for.

648
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: I just don't want you to like do laser and

649
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: leather bag now when it's like you have your four.

650
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: Oh, you think I should enjoy my thirties a little more.

651
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: You want him in like a short coat.

652
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 3: Put him in a shore coat for crying out loud.

653
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.

654
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: Talk about trend cycles. By the way, work wear is

655
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: going to be so embarrassing in seconds, George, It's all

656
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: I have. I was over at Max's last night and

657
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: every single man was wearing some version of like car Hearts,

658
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: Dan Ray, like you know whatever workwear, every single one

659
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: with the same exact pocket patterns. And I was like,

660
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Speaker 1: enjoy it while.

661
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: You holding your giant leather bag hatting it like a cat,

662
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: like a hairless cat.

663
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: Enjoy it boys drinking a glass of champagne, but no

664
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Speaker 1: one I walked in with it.

665
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Speaker 4: That sounds good, all unwined with like a big bottle

666
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: of red after the God.

667
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: I would do anything, just like what day is that?

668
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Speaker 4: You're not working today?

669
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: No, not working today? We have Fridays off and.

670
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: Yet here you are, yeah, plug each plugging in those hours.

671
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Speaker 3: Well, I have multiple jobs, of course.

672
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: I know multiple income streams.

673
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Speaker 1: You have to I will say one of the reasons

674
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Speaker 1: why I feel especially cuckoo is that so Sam and

675
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Speaker 1: I had a separate business meeting before our first recording,

676
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Speaker 1: then we did that, then first recording, then second recording.

677
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Speaker 1: I have been Sam has been like at first he

678
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Speaker 1: was at his apartment, then he was in studio. He

679
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: like said hi to the yeah, the producers. I have

680
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: been in this spot while the sun has been going

681
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Speaker 1: down over four hours.

682
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Speaker 4: No, I don't envy, I know, but also, oh my god,

683
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 4: but also both of you. I'm familiar with the feeling

684
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 4: you're having, which is there's nothing worse than doing two

685
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 4: in one day. It's helen Earth.

686
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: You're I would not describe speaking to you in any contract.

687
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I take no offense to it.

688
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: I'm trying to come in and bring a fresh energy because,

689
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Speaker 4: as someone who's been in a podcast, you over nineteen

690
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: hours straight, you lose all all everything you guys.

691
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: Have done, and then someone and then someone comments like

692
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: it looks like they don't like each other anymore. I

693
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: hate Wait, let's do our first segment, oh the way,

694
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: and then and then we're gonna like go go, and

695
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: then we're going to really luxuriate in your topic. Okay, incredible,

696
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: So Catherine, our first segment is called straight Shooters, and

697
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: in this segment we ask you a series of rapid

698
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: fire questions where you have to choose one thing or

699
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: another thing to give years ago and complicity and straight culture.

700
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: Now take one final set of that pegrena again, I

701
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Speaker 1: do what?

702
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: Okay?

703
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: So the one rule is you can't ask any follow up? Cool?

704
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 4: Okay, then let's just rock.

705
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 1: Let's rock it, Catherine, m hmm, running late or looking

706
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: stunning for your date?

707
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: Sorry? Am I picking which one? Straight? Oh?

708
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: So that's what question.

709
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: I really didn't hear.

710
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: The beginning part of it. No, that's too late though.

711
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you all know I'm straight with a

712
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 4: shred of bye. But it's a smaller.

713
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: Thres like smaller and smaller.

714
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 4: It actually got bigger and then smaller and then bigger

715
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: than smaller.

716
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: It's like the New York Times election needle.

717
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: You know, I was on a plane watching that needle fly. Wow,

718
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 4: I was up in the air. You actually my new

719
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 4: thing and it shows my age. But what's better than

720
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 4: a white wine spritzer?

721
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: No, that's fun.

722
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's.

723
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Speaker 4: On a plane, you go all a white one could

724
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Speaker 4: I also.

725
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: Have like a seltzer shows a big white wine spritzer head.

726
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 4: It keeps you hydrated, she keeps you on your toes

727
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 4: for you okay, Sorry running late or looking.

728
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 1: Great for a date, looking stunning for your date, looking

729
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: stunning perfect okay.

730
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: Catherine leaving a bad yelp review or saying to hell

731
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: with you, to.

732
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: Hell with you, Mama Mia or Papa don't preach.

733
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: I gotta go Mama Mia.

734
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: Okay, Finding Nemo or losing the youth boat.

735
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: Finding me, Uncle Sam, or Auntie.

736
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: Anne's, Auntie Anne's Forever.

737
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: Okay, carrot top or apple bottom.

738
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 4: Apple bottom jeans, boots with the fur, got the whole club,

739
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: looking at her.

740
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: Peek a boo, or snake to the loo.

741
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 4: Snake to the loo.

742
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: Okay.

743
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: We hold these truths to be self evident. Or when

744
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: it comes to Charlie Pooth, let's just say I'm hesitant.

745
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 4: Charlie Pooth should be a bigger artist. We agreed after

746
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 4: seven bars of chocolate.

747
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Speaker 1: Wait, Sam, that was your last one?

748
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: Was so me? Oh that's true. You know we influenced

749
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Speaker 3: each other.

750
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Speaker 1: I think I would a like doing a political one.

751
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: Im in a non political one is very me and

752
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: then Charlie Pooth is very me. I think you are.

753
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm way more Charlie Pooth than you are.

754
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: No, that's true. I guess I don't really understand his deal.

755
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 4: I have no idea what is. I only know him

756
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: as a Swift I only know him as part of

757
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 4: the Swift extended universe.

758
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: As a gig guy, I only know him as someone

759
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: that posts their straps the gig guys will like put

760
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: on Twitter.

761
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 4: And is he married to a straight woman?

762
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

763
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Speaker 1: Straight? And as a Charlie Pooth fan, I will say

764
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: that I actually really like some of his songs.

765
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: That's crazy, Yeah, what songs?

766
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: I like this song called Charlie Be Quiet, which is

767
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: a sort of do you remember that micro moment? Do

768
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: you remember the micro moment when the first Olivia Rodrigo

769
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: album dropped where it was suddenly cool to be Avril Levine? Yes,

770
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: so he like that was what he was doing with that.

771
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: It's almost like a I would say, almost like a

772
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Speaker 1: simple plan type.

773
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: Like welcome to my life.

774
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, so I like that that song. Like I

775
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: gotta say, you know, I literally sometimes listen to his album.

776
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 3: This is that's crazy. It's crazy. You're scaring me George,

777
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 3: it's already you know our country.

778
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: I also love I love his thirst traps. I think

779
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: they're fun and like.

780
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 4: Let me even is he hot? Like, let me look

781
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 4: him up?

782
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: He's interesting looking.

783
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I actually do appreciate a good I'm glad

784
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: that he's thirstrapping.

785
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: I think that's fine.

786
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like and the thirst straps have a sense

787
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: of whimsy to them. That is, I appreciate way more

788
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 1: than like a Shawn Mendo.

789
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 3: They actually remind me a lot of myself.

790
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 4: Younger than he is.

791
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: He's like you, and that he's like silly but hot.

792
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

793
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: I love his little like eyebrow situation.

794
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: His little eyebrow situation is fun. What did Catherine get

795
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: on our new scale of disease.

796
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: Or not disease?

797
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 1: Oh?

798
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 4: He looks too young?

799
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: You know that?

800
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 4: My old guy? Oh my god? You yeah me, I

801
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 4: feel like I heard you fuck someone that I know?

802
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: Oh which one I can't remember? After one time I

803
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: had so the sixty six year old man?

804
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 4: That's great?

805
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: Was that resent? No?

806
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: It wasn't okay? So how old were you literally like nineteen?

807
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, we might have to cut this why because

808
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: it's scary?

809
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: Were you scared?

810
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: I was a little sary.

811
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 4: Sorry, that's horrible, but it.

812
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: Was my fault. I like fully like went over to it.

813
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: Okay, it was not your Yeah, I'm sorry.

814
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 4: Can we see you down, try you to the until

815
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: you it's not your fault. Sam, you didn't say.

816
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: It's not your fault. We're being Robin Williams and goodwille

817
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: un Well.

818
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: I was like, I was just like, sure, I'll go

819
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: to this man's random this random man's house, and all.

820
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: Right, can I say something since we're on this topic. Yeah,

821
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: one of my regrets is not doing that more when

822
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: I was nineteen.

823
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 4: So you can't win.

824
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: You can't win.

825
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: You really can't win, because I actually I do think

826
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Speaker 1: obviously there are positives and negatives to many elements of

827
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: gay culture. And I'll be the first to say.

828
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: That that's George takes a bold stance on gay culture.

829
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: I'll take a bold stance and say, you win some,

830
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: you lose some when it comes to being gay. Okay,

831
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: But I I do think the sort of the tradition

832
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: of like age gap like sexual awakening for the younger

833
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: man and sort of daddy like almost coming into daddy

834
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: dom for the older one. It's like they're both discovering

835
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: a part of themselves, and I think that is actually

836
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: that can be. If it is, you know, obviously completely

837
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: consensual and completely above board, that can be a very

838
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: beautiful part of gay culture. And there's no way to

839
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: go back to being twenty two and do that. So

840
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: it's either you experienced it or you don't. And I didn't.

841
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: I never like went for older men when I was

842
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: that age, and it's something I will regret for the rest.

843
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: Of my life.

844
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 4: You still look at with a much older person and

845
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 4: feel like you can still feel yeah, yeah, Actually I

846
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 4: mean to ask you, speaking of that great tradition, I

847
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 4: mean to ask you about a Greek question. Oh please,

848
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 4: there's a phrase. There's a term I was I was

849
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: sent okay acrassia or a crasia. It's a term, a

850
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 4: Greek word the refers the tendency to act against one's

851
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 4: better judgment A k r a s I No.

852
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it. You know, it's interesting it. Here's the

853
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: thing with Greek alright, uh huh, there are some things

854
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: that are I have heard that, but it is not

855
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: like a It's not something I could have told you

856
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: off the top of my head. With the thing with

857
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: Greek is that there are things in ancient Greek and

858
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: sort of in you know, classics textbooks that have taken

859
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: on a life of their own that are very different

860
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: than like your experience as a person living in contemporary Greece.

861
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: So sometimes there will be like a full on Greek

862
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: word that I don't necessarily know, but like American people

863
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: that took that took like classics classes in college will know,

864
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: And then I'll feel so ignorant because I'm like, well,

865
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that, but I do know the Greek

866
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: word for, you know, I don't know bathroom mind.

867
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, no, you're like, that's not part of my

868
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 4: daily Yeah, it's more of like it's more of like

869
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 4: a I went to college and learned this word vibe.

870
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: And it's also even things like things also do genuinely

871
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: mean slightly different things in ancient Greek and in modern Greek,

872
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: like the same exact word. So sometimes someone will like

873
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: talk to me about what something means. They'll be like, well,

874
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: in fact, in modern Greek, that just means, oh my god,

875
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: talk about modern Greek. My mom is calling me.

876
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 4: One second, Oh my god, let's pick it up.

877
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: No mind the podcast.

878
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 4: Okay, that's amazing.

879
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: Did you hear a winning put podcast in that sentence?

880
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 4: No, that's amazing, George.

881
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 3: I love you.

882
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: Just my favorite thing, which is I yeah, like sorry,

883
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: my mom has literally been the word.

884
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 3: Podcast from the middle of it.

885
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: My mom has been trying to reach me for two days,

886
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: and in my mind, of course, I'm like, there's no

887
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: way I could have There's not a single way I

888
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: could have gotten back to her, when in fact, all

889
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: it would have taken is like a single text.

890
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough, you should text her.

891
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: Aha ha ha ha, shut up, shut the fuck. My

892
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 4: first time spiking the camera. Now, let me ask you this,

893
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: So as would you say a crasia or a crassia.

894
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: I would assume, and maybe I'm wrong, but if I

895
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: were to see that in Greek, I would assume it's

896
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: aracia a crassia.

897
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 4: Thank you, Okay. I only asked because I was feeling

898
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 4: really connected to the meaning of it, because I'm obsessed

899
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 4: with not doing the things that I should do.

900
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone acts against their better judgment through weakness of will.

901
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like me not going to the gym.

902
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: I didn't like that at the end, Yeah, weakness of will.

903
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm being self distructed.

904
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, this is good. Well he is. Pat and

905
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 4: I were talking about it today because I brought it up,

906
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 4: and it's like it's perfect. Himpting George later and then

907
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 4: Pat thought you were betraying him because you were in town.

908
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 4: Didn't tell him little did I know? You're really a computer?

909
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: So you are here on his ship list?

910
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so he thought I was in town.

911
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 4: I thought you were in two th I was like,

912
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to George later.

913
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: Oh well, it's going to be great when I finally

914
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: text him big reveal, the big reveal.

915
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, do we want to get I mean it's

916
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: like it's three thirty.

917
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 4: When did we start?

918
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: We started at like two thirty. Didn't we to forty five?

919
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: Oh we started like two forty five?

920
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: Okay, great, okay here you guys are dying to leave.

921
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 3: Oh I'm just like, I what's wrong?

922
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 2: Well, no, I feel like we should get into the

923
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: Sorry we would get into the straight topic at this

924
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: at a stage before, but we've like been so non

925
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: traditional and it almost feels like stopping conversation to get

926
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: into the straight topic.

927
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: I know, well, you know you and Pat are so

928
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: this happens this happens when Patt is on the podcast too.

929
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: You and Pat are so well trained in the art

930
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: of conversation that it actually like it makes us not

931
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: follow our own rules for our own podcast because we're like, well,

932
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 1: we better just talk for twenty five minutes about sort

933
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: of like the ins and outs of New York versus

934
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: LA comedy and whether TikTok is good or bad.

935
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: I'm laughing because we just got a comment that was

936
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: so it was like, you guys are the worst interviewers

937
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 4: I've ever heard of in my life.

938
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: But interviewing is different here.

939
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: It's a different thing. You're not like me to converse.

940
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: You talk.

941
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 4: We love to face it girl, you talk. But also

942
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 4: this is so, you know, I was so excited to

943
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: come because this is so easy to talk to old

944
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: friends and you know that sometimes you're carrying a conversation

945
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 4: for work and it's exhausting. Yeah, of course I've seen

946
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 4: some things. They've heard some things. I've been involved in

947
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 4: some things. Oh I'm sorry, I have a crick in

948
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: my neck. Oh no, but this happens to me once

949
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: a week.

950
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: So we don't need to go to the hospital.

951
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: So we're not really straight to hospital. Before the British

952
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: ORGI and straight to hospital to hospital. Well, I read

953
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 4: my straight topic. I thought of it. I kind of

954
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 4: forgot and that I thought of it in the car

955
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 4: I ran it by Sam so I can drop it

956
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 4: here if you want, in the.

957
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: Tah drop it. What is your straight topic and what

958
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: is straight about it? Go?

959
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 4: Movies are straight?

960
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: Wow?

961
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 4: And film is gay? Do you like that that? Yeah,

962
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: movies are straight. It's like we're going to the movies.

963
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, but fast and furious, like we're seeing Marvel.

964
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 4: It's it's like we're going to the movies. Buckle up, like, dude,

965
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 4: have you seen that movie? Like, let's like watch some movies.

966
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, shut up.

967
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: I actually do think we need to differentiate it more

968
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: like literally, like it actually would be nice to be

969
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: like the same way that like a movie is different

970
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: than a TV show. We need like a movie and

971
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 2: a film that's twofferent. Things like oh, a film's coming out.

972
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 4: It's like a film is.

973
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: A film, and I would like to see the film

974
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: and smile too. Is a movie?

975
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: Smele to is an amazing movie? And a movie can

976
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 4: be amazing because.

977
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 3: They shouldn't even be in conversation with each other. They're

978
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 3: so different.

979
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: Well, you know what it is. It's vase versus oz

980
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: wow and and vases straight but also like cheap like

981
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: it's it's basically like when it reaches a certain threshold

982
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: of you know, sophistication, monetary value, whatever, it becomes a

983
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: oz and it's that. But for you know, a TikTok

984
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 1: can never be a short film no.

985
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: Matter how hard they try.

986
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: God, that's when people are like TikTok doing some of

987
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: the most amazing film stuff right now, where it's like

988
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: people think about if you look at the editing, it's

989
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: actually really interesting. It's like kind of a new cinema

990
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: if you think about it, saying that disgusting.

991
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 4: Perverse people who are working on book projects literally sometimes yeah,

992
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 4: really people are like if you like, that's where that's

993
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 4: where things are happening.

994
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 3: Like they're a little directors.

995
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 4: But guess what, I love absolutely adore TikTok. Do you

996
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 4: have you, guys, ever laughed so hard in your life? Yes,

997
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 4: I will be, I'll be. I mean it's probably i'veen

998
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 4: spending a lot of time alone and like because when

999
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 4: you when you're touring or traveling, you're like by yourself

1000
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 4: and you do go crazy, but like there'll be times

1001
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 4: like I'm alone in bed, I'm in tears laughing in

1002
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 4: a TikTok, and whether or not it's a good TikTok

1003
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 4: or a funny joke, it's brought me joy and I

1004
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 4: have to accept that.

1005
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: So I've only experienced tik talk as a trap where

1006
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: it's like I'm there against my will. You're angry, and

1007
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: I almost like in a gambling way where I'm like,

1008
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: I hated that.

1009
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 3: I hated that.

1010
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: I hated that, and I'm like waiting for something good

1011
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: to come, and I'm like, I'll get off.

1012
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 4: When you're fighting the hug from your strange parent, you're

1013
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 4: fighting the hug and you need to sink into the hug.

1014
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: I not, no, that makes sense.

1015
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: I've been worried recently because so I have never looked

1016
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: at TikTok in my life.

1017
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 4: Sorry record that post that straight to grid. I have

1018
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 4: never looked.

1019
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: At I do I have. I have seen tiktoks people

1020
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: send to me and then it opens on the like

1021
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: safari app. Hell. I have literally never in my life

1022
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: seen what a for you page looks like. I think

1023
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: for the lunch for the longest time. I would you know,

1024
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: I'll say it feel a little better than everyone else

1025
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: because you are in case. But here's a thing Catherine. Recently,

1026
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: I would say, over the last year, more and more

1027
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: smart people that I really respect and find to be

1028
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: incredibly uh, informative and intelligent will tell me it's like

1029
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: they're dropping one by one because they're they're all getting

1030
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: they're getting into TikTok. Even at this late stage, I

1031
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: would say, you're joined late.

1032
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 4: Example of this, I joined late, but it's a huge

1033
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 4: part of my life. And actually watching my boyfriend shout out, yeah,

1034
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 4: shout out to my straight boyfriend. Watching him use TikTok

1035
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 4: to build this is humiliate. His podcast has been amazing.

1036
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 4: He really is a master of the form. Wow and and.

1037
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's so in that sense he's a filmmaker.

1038
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: My boyfriend is a filmmaker.

1039
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1040
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 4: I joined it late, but it has brought me so

1041
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 4: much joy. And now there is this disconnect between people

1042
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 4: who know the weird sounds and references and then those

1043
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 4: who don't. And I don't know what's better or worse.

1044
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: I well, this is a thing like I don't know them,

1045
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: and I actually I remember very distinctly in the let's

1046
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: say the twenty tens, when I was very active on Twitter,

1047
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: I remember knowing about so bad, knowing about memes and trends,

1048
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: and then in three weeks reading about them in the

1049
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: Time style section and being like, oh my god, these losers,

1050
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: like they're like all like fucking pathetic thirty five year

1051
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: olds writing about what's happening on Twitter and that. And

1052
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: now I have become the news consumer that is hearing

1053
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: about TikTok trends three weeks late. Because I'm not there

1054
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: on the ground floor. Those style section pieces are for me.

1055
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 3: Now. I would be scared for you when you first

1056
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: open it.

1057
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: Because I really do think it's I remember looking at

1058
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: the TikTok app for the first time and feeling nauseous.

1059
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, how have you done trooms? And

1060
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: you're like before the fun part, and you're like you're nauseous,

1061
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: like your head kind of hurts, and you're like, oh,

1062
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: this is going to be bad, bad, And then you

1063
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: get past it and you're fine. There is that moment

1064
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: of looking at TikTok for the first time where you're like,

1065
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: these people are sick. The world is disgusting. I like,

1066
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: everything is so empty, there's death all around me.

1067
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: Okay, but that that's the truth.

1068
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 4: You know, there's so much joy within the app.

1069
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: There is so much life.

1070
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 4: There is so much life within the apps.

1071
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm happy for all creators, especially LGBTQ plus ones.

1072
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 4: I think I think it's making me a worse artist,

1073
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 4: but it's bringing me. It's it's like it's like a drug.

1074
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 4: It's like it's it's a band aid. It's an instant

1075
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 4: hit of dopamine in a really dark time.

1076
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: I want to say, this is a huge shift of subjects. Slightly.

1077
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 4: I listened Huge Slightly. It's a good title. Yeah, it's huge.

1078
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 4: Comma slightly.

1079
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: I listened to your episode of Last Culturistas.

1080
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: Oh my god, how was that?

1081
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: It was so interesting because because I this is a

1082
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: podcast about podcasting first and foremost of course, and it

1083
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: was so jarring because I was like, you guys were

1084
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: all talking about how much time has passed since we've

1085
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: all known each other. Yeah, and it's true, but it

1086
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: was freaking me out because it was so like the

1087
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: end of the story in a way.

1088
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 4: And I disagree with that.

1089
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: Really.

1090
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 4: I feel like where it's just starting. Okay that I

1091
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 4: know I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying,

1092
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 4: keep going.

1093
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: Well, I was just like I felt zoomed out from

1094
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: life kind of listening to that.

1095
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: Do you know what I think?

1096
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 4: I feel like I've seen I see you guys more

1097
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 4: frequently than I see them.

1098
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I felt.

1099
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 4: More like, oh my god, like remember that.

1100
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: Right right, right, right right.

1101
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm trying to remember. Okay. No, I

1102
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: did not listen to that, but I did listen to

1103
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: matt on Seek Treatment, and that made me feel insane.

1104
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: Sometimes I think I forget how much time has passed. Yeah,

1105
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: I think I do. I do feel that like we're

1106
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: still getting started. We're still scrappy, we're still figuring it out,

1107
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: and we're still like trying to figure out how to

1108
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: make what we actually want to make. Yeah, And so

1109
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 2: it's funny to be like, remember back then, because I'm

1110
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: like whoa right, Like I do kind of to update

1111
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: my ledger and I forget sometimes update my ledger because

1112
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's still twenty seventeen.

1113
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 4: I think that's a pandemic thing too, like we just

1114
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 4: had this huge chunk like.

1115
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,479
Speaker 3: H yeah, no, there's something to that. No, there's something

1116
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 3: to that.

1117
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: Here's the here's the thing of the pandemic. I've always

1118
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: felt like in many ways, in fact, in most ways,

1119
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: we were the perfect age during that time, because we

1120
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: were not young enough that it affected our education or

1121
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: our upbringing, or our family life or our socialization. And

1122
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: we were also not old enough that we had kids,

1123
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: had families. It didn't we are we're all able to

1124
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: have jobs and careers that basically could transition to remote

1125
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: work for a time, and we weren't like left behind economically,

1126
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: Like there were so many ways in which we were

1127
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: incredibly lucky. But then a way in which we like

1128
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: were unlucky is that we lost those like last few

1129
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: years of youthful wonder, which is obviously so it's so

1130
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: it's so much less important than any other possible thing

1131
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: you could lose, obviously, like there are people whose lives

1132
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: were ruined, there are people who died, but it is

1133
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: that if there is one thing we truly lost, it's

1134
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: like the idea of just like the transition between feeling

1135
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: like you're in your twenties and feeling like you're a

1136
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: full adult happened without us noticing.

1137
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 4: Agree, one hundred million percent that's yeah, even because I

1138
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 4: just turned thirty three and I feel like, emotion I

1139
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 4: feel like I just turned thirty and emotionally I'm like,

1140
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 4: oh wow, I'm really like my partner moved in, like

1141
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 4: we're doing this. I can afford a plane ticket like

1142
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 4: I'm in my thirties.

1143
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: But really, I mean even when I.

1144
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: Was getting married, I was like, I was like, when

1145
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: am I a child bride? And actually everyone was also

1146
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: acting like that too, so you.

1147
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 4: Are you are still I'm like, I don't know what.

1148
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: No, I've been calling Matthew groomer this whole time.

1149
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 1: There was a groomer.

1150
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 4: When someone becomes pregnant, I'm like, wait, you're way too

1151
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 4: young for this, sweetie.

1152
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: I literally told someone recently. I was like, it just

1153
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: finally feels like I'm not in college anymore.

1154
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 3: I was like, that's insane.

1155
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 4: I feel too.

1156
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: It's like ten, I'm thirty five, Like I'm fully thirty five.

1157
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 4: Yeah that is at least say yeah, no, it's true.

1158
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: Oh my god, everyone's cookie.

1159
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, everyone's cookie and life is crazy.

1160
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: You know.

1161
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 3: We didn't talk about the topic, and but that's what

1162
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 3: we did.

1163
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: Well we did, and like movies, right, movies are straight.

1164
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: No. We talked about it enough, and it's like, I

1165
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 2: actually have found this to be so fun.

1166
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all life should be.

1167
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: Oh it's it's completely fun.

1168
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: Like one and like joyful, and it's so hard to

1169
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: stay that way it is. Do you know that I

1170
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 4: am dressed like a flight attendant or do you not care?

1171
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: I have actually noticed that.

1172
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 3: I love the scar it's so fun.

1173
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: I noticed that, and actually from my angle, I was like,

1174
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: am I seeing something incorrectly? No?

1175
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 4: I received this at a Diane von Furstenberg event for women.

1176
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: Oh and I so check I said, checkmate. I love it.

1177
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

1178
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: One of my one of my favorite things to talk

1179
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: that is how Diane the wrap dress is talked about

1180
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: as though it's literally like as important as inventing the

1181
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: nuclear bomb. Like she's off.

1182
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 4: That's what it is is.

1183
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: Every time she has mentioned Diane versus, there's an interview

1184
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: with sand On Ursberg on every single New York Times

1185
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: Sunday section, like they will not stop interviewing her about.

1186
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 4: As absolutely as to borrow a phrase from Rihanna as

1187
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 4: a fluctuating queen, the rap dress is everything. It always fits,

1188
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 4: it always fits, and it always makes you look snatched.

1189
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean obviously you do. It's it's your I'm not

1190
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: saying do you think so for you? But I'm just

1191
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: saying I'm trying to think.

1192
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 4: I think it's universally flattering.

1193
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: I do it is universe.

1194
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 4: I don't think it's trendy or like necessarily always.

1195
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you think it's more universally flattering than like,

1196
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: let's say, shirt dress belt.

1197
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 4: I mean there's there's that's I don't know what you're

1198
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 4: saying that there's a similarity there. Okay, I mean shirt dress,

1199
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 4: I mean this is what's shirt dressed to you?

1200
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: Like, uh, I don't knows basically everything, I know everything

1201
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: to me, Like I see a woman on the beach.

1202
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 4: Okay, interesting, Yeah, yeah, you're you're thinking over as ti

1203
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 4: as Oxford like my boyfriend.

1204
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and you can't.

1205
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: Know it's so chic. Okay, braided belt really really long.

1206
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: So then you do it one extra loop. You do

1207
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: a loop, but then you also like tie it cool.

1208
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 4: Around the rest, giving like Kira Knightly rail thin bones

1209
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,479
Speaker 4: jutting out of the hips, the belts like falling off

1210
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 4: like yeah, okay, I think okay, we got to touch

1211
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 4: on everything.

1212
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, any of the other things we didn't touch on.

1213
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: Here's what I have to. I do want to a

1214
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: little because I really like the movies versus films thing,

1215
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: and I just want to say one more thing. Okay,

1216
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: all right, to bring it back to politics.

1217
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 4: Oh awesome.

1218
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: I actually think film is thriving, but movies are suffering

1219
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: right now. Here's so, here's hear me out. And the

1220
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: tradition was selected exactly to get movies tradition. Movies traditionally

1221
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: are the more privileged form. It's like they're the big blockbusters.

1222
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: It takes more money to make them. The actors get

1223
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: paid more, they are more flashy, more people see them.

1224
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: And films are like for you know, gay Italians, and

1225
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: they're in like little screens and you know you have

1226
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: to first get a PhD in order to go see them.

1227
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: Blah blah. What has happened is movies have suffered so much.

1228
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: No one's going to the multiplex anymore. Everyone's watching Netflix.

1229
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: But films, because they were already this like small enterprise,

1230
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: have actually been able to weather the storm. And there

1231
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: is an anora. There still is a can Film Festival

1232
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: every year with all a bunch of artsy films and

1233
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: so I think that move. I think that like, the

1234
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: people that make the big movies are becoming more reactionary

1235
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: in the same way that the people that were on

1236
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: top of the social ladder are becoming reactionary politically because

1237
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: they have lost a tiny bit of their power.

1238
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: Wow, thoughts, I think this is genius. First of all,

1239
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: I am trying to think of literally anything to say

1240
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: about it.

1241
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 4: I know, I'm kind of like, keep going, Yeah, but

1242
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 4: does this.

1243
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: Track what I'm saying.

1244
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 3: I think it does track. I think it's sort.

1245
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: Of not convinced. I don't know.

1246
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 4: I don't think movies have lost their power. I feel

1247
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 4: more and more and more, well.

1248
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're no, but they're like flops like that no

1249
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: one is going on, and yet.

1250
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 4: We're pouring like more and more money into making like

1251
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 4: the same horrible things.

1252
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess what you're saying more like movies

1253
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 2: are like the Democratic Party.

1254
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: But don't you think Captaine, that that is what's reactionary

1255
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: about it.

1256
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, they're grasping so tight and it's burning

1257
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 4: their hands.

1258
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: It's like the way that movies going from being bad

1259
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: and original to bad and derivative is like the Republican Party.

1260
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: Going from Bush to Trump.

1261
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, okay, okay, okay, yes, yes, yes, yes,

1262
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,959
Speaker 4: I'm on board. I'm on board. I'm on board. God,

1263
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: I do think what's Yeah, films will always exist, People

1264
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 4: will always make films. Movies are like theme parts. It's

1265
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 4: like you're going to shut down once.

1266
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: They're no longer mono culture? Can they even be called movie?

1267
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: Well, literally, Netflix and all the other horrible movies that

1268
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: come out on streamers except the ones that we would make.

1269
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 4: Of course, of course, and the ones our friends are

1270
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 4: in and we think those.

1271
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: Are awesome and we love those.

1272
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: You're so good, you are so good in that.

1273
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 2: But like because of those movies, and it's like those

1274
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: movies in film are actually the only two things now,

1275
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: Like a movie coming out in theaters, that's just a movie.

1276
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 3: I'm sort of like, what's the point a movie?

1277
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 4: Like, what's the last movie that came out that wasn't

1278
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: part of a franchise?

1279
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: Well? Anura on Clave a movie?

1280
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:01,959
Speaker 3: Not a film movie?

1281
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Clave a movie or a film No, it's.

1282
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 4: A I like literally don't know what that is.

1283
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: Oh, you love it, Catherine. It's about how they're they're

1284
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: about that and Ray finds his Nancy Pelosi.

1285
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 4: What could it be?

1286
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: So?

1287
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: Okay, what's the last This is a good.

1288
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: Okay, what's the last movie?

1289
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: That?

1290
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: Wasn't that a film?

1291
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 4: No?

1292
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: No, it was it was it was that I.

1293
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 4: Saw that three times?

1294
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 3: Are you animerhead?

1295
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 4: No, I was going through I was about to have surgery,

1296
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 4: and so I couldn't do anything. But I just kept

1297
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 4: seeing and there were a few things playing and I

1298
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 4: would just see them like again and again and again

1299
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 4: because I had nothing to do and no one.

1300
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 3: To the Barbie film.

1301
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 4: I did see it one time.

1302
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I can't.

1303
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 4: I can't. Off the record, I can't. I can't. I did.

1304
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 3: And so who did you for?

1305
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: Curious?

1306
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 4: Just curious, miss Coconut, Miss cuckoo nut? Yeah, interesting Oppenheimer,

1307
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 4: I think is a good, good choice.

1308
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I see what Sam is saying, like it

1309
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: is film nick film.

1310
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 4: It's still a great word.

1311
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: It's like takes some patience and it takes like being like,

1312
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of stuff here.

1313
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 4: God, what's the movie before that?

1314
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 3: A movie? A movie?

1315
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: A movie like not based on any ip that was

1316
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: a real movie.

1317
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 4: Hold for twelve minutes, I know, I'm like, how do

1318
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 4: we look up, like trying to google the ungogleable.

1319
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 3: We finally found a question they can't answer.

1320
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 4: The AI overview can't tackle.

1321
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 3: George's on it.

1322
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 4: I love the Blue Light.

1323
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 3: No, it's really nice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are you ready for this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Worldwide Box Office twenty twenty four. Okay, Inside Out to Dead,

1327
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: Pull and Wolverine, Despicable Me for Dune Part two, Godzilla

1328
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 1: X Kong, Kung Fu, Pandle four Juice, Beetle Juice, Bad Boys,

1329
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: Rider Die, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, Twisters,

1330
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: Alien Romulus, all right, number twelve, it's the first. Oh no,

1331
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: it's it ends with Us? Is also based on a book? Okay, Venom,

1332
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: The Last Dance, The Wild Robot.

1333
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 3: Oh, Wild Robot?

1334
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 4: What's the Wild Robot?

1335
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: That's a movie that's an animated movie that's supposed to

1336
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: be good that I haven't seen, and I don't know

1337
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: if it's based on anything that could be.

1338
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if being based on a book counts.

1339
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,439
Speaker 4: It's not the same as being like but then Doune. Yeah,

1340
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1341
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: This is great. A Quiet Place, Day one, the Garfield

1342
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: movie Joker.

1343
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 4: That original but that's a sequel. Yeah, yeah, Okay, keep going.

1344
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: Joker fully a do Ghostbusters Frozen Empire?

1345
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 4: All right, here we go, we're hacking in the main frames.

1346
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: Here was a failed here's a failed movie. Okay, okay,

1347
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: the Fall Guy. If The Fall Guy had succeeded, that

1348
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: would have been a real movie.

1349
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 4: What's not about it?

1350
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: It's about am with Bryan Gosling and Emily Blunt and

1351
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: he plays a stuntman.

1352
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 4: And it's original and it's.

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01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: Original and guess what. It's starring the two stars of

1354
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: the biggest movies of last year. And it flopped, and

1355
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: it flopped fully.

1356
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 4: Was its supposed to be good or bad? So interesting?

1357
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 3: I think it was medium.

1358
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 4: Medium or yeah? Interesting?

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01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 3: Well, George, that was actually quite sad.

1360
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 4: That was really really hard to hear what you said.

1361
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: Because I was actually like, sometimes I think people are

1362
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: over exaggerating when they're like everything's a sequel, everything's veranitized,

1363
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: and then like grow up and then you're like, damn, wait,

1364
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: that was true.

1365
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: But this is what this is what I mean when

1366
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: I say film is thriving, because it's like, there's no

1367
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: such thing as a mass appeal movie anymore. So you

1368
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: just have to give up on that and understand that

1369
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: you're not going to make the big bucks.

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01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 4: Hmmm, well, there's been some very good films in the

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01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 4: last few years.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

1373
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think.

1374
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: Like shockingly good. I think that's the secret is like,

1375
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: once you give up on trying to reach a lot

1376
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: of people, you can make good films, or I.

1377
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 4: Feel like you end up. You can end up reaching

1378
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: tons of people if you make something that's really specific

1379
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 4: and true to you, which is hard to make happen

1380
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 4: these days. These days, I know, God, what's better than

1381
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 4: a cool ranch to rito? I'm sorry, I just had

1382
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 4: to take a hit. No, it's fucking.

1383
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:24,439
Speaker 3: God.

1384
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 4: What's ever we're gonna have for dinner tonight?

1385
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: That's a really good question. I'm craving a burger.

1386
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 4: I was craving a smash burger?

1387
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 3: Fuck fuck?

1388
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: Oh really, I have.

1389
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: No idea, you know, I don't want in charge of

1390
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: what's uh what I'm eating. It's all about what Misha wants.

1391
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 4: Is that how it is? Are you okay? Blink twice?

1392
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: But Sam, you don't care that I don't care.

1393
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 4: What do you mean you don't care?

1394
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: I give up all control, I say, I don't care

1395
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 3: what we eat? What do you want?

1396
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 4: Really?

1397
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: That's you unless.

1398
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: I had something like that for lunch, then I'm like,

1399
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: I don't want that passing. No go.

1400
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: I would say this is one of the like, this

1401
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: is one of the least like. This is one of

1402
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: our biggest differences. Probably is like I fetishize restaurants, and

1403
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm so like, if I'm having a bad day, like

1404
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: a good meal will really turn things around everything.

1405
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 4: It's all we have. Yeah, you married, so well.

1406
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 3: That's true.

1407
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the smash.

1408
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 4: Burger sat at the table.

1409
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: I feel like, well, next time you're in town.

1410
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 4: Once I stop, ah have invited you. I know, no, no,

1411
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 4: I know I Whenever I get invited, I'm like, I

1412
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 4: cannot funck this up. It's such a it's such an

1413
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 4: amazing it's such a beautiful invite. Okay, sorry, what are

1414
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 4: we saying?

1415
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: I was just saying this is a very minor point.

1416
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: I really am a smash Burger truther, Like I want thick, don't.

1417
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 3: You don't like smash.

1418
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 4: I don't like smash.

1419
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 3: I'm all in on the smash.

1420
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: I want fick and juicy, and I want medium rare,

1421
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: and I want to really feel like I'm biting into

1422
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: Stop being so erotic.

1423
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 4: I like that, but I can't what's your favorite burger? Then?

1424
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like favorite restaurant.

1425
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 4: I guess, like where are you like where you go?

1426
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 4: And who has your favorite burger?

1427
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: Then?

1428
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 3: Currently?

1429
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: Oh oh currently, oh god, oh god, oh god. Okay,

1430
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: well this is not my favorite burger, but like there's

1431
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: a place close to ask.

1432
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 4: Sim So George, the question was really quick. What i's

1433
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 4: your favorite burger?

1434
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: I fully kicked my shoe off and it's so far

1435
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 2: away I can't get cancy free.

1436
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, George. I want to hear.

1437
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: There's a place called Ingas in Brooklyn that has a

1438
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: good that has a good burger, and you like can

1439
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: traditional potato butN but like a nice thick burger. You

1440
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: can sit at the bar, have a little martini, you

1441
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: have a little burger. I'll go there. I'll go there

1442
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: by myself, done alone.

1443
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 4: That sounds so good right now?

1444
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: That sounds so fun.

1445
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 4: Can I ask everyone before we go what's everyone's favorite

1446
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 4: kind of fry? Because I'm interested in this as well.

1447
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: No, this is really important.

1448
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 2: Whenever we have a podcast host on, they can't help

1449
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 2: but be podcast host. I actually love to see it.

1450
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: You are, like, I find it comforting I've.

1451
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: Been your Pellegrino and Dorito's combo could unite America. You

1452
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: are literally uniting the left and the right.

1453
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 3: Get you a girl who can do both.

1454
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a good food, Sam, what's your favorite fry?

1455
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 2: First of all, I love a little Cajun seasoning on

1456
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: the fry, and I like a medium thickness. I hate

1457
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: the shoe string fries. I would rather die. I think

1458
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: a waffle fry is fun, but I like it every

1459
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 2: once in a while, totally so, just sort of a

1460
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: nice medium thickness with Cajun seasoning.

1461
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 4: Fry well and and crisp.

1462
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 3: But but some soft ones. I love a soft I

1463
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 3: like a soft fry.

1464
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: I like medium thick, crisp mayo.

1465
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 3: Oh well European of course.

1466
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: But Sam actually does something very interesting way like some

1467
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: dry that's true, that spooky. He doesn't want anything. He

1468
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,439
Speaker 1: doesn't want any dipping.

1469
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 4: Sauce, and people call me this for years. I'm a

1470
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 4: sauce queen. I like I need the mayo to three

1471
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 4: up to say.

1472
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 3: If the fry doesn't stand up by its own I don't.

1473
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 3: I don't want it at all.

1474
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 4: Really.

1475
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, when I was in college after like a

1476
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: big exam. I would go to the this one food

1477
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: establishment on campus and I would get chicken tenders and

1478
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: then I would go and get every available dipping sauce

1479
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: from were approximately eight and I would line them up Honey, Mustard, ranch, ketchup, Mayo,

1480
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: there was like a green one, and then there was

1481
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: like a hot sauce list, and I would just buy myself.

1482
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: It was very like, do not look at me. It's

1483
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: time to do George's Big ritual, which was taking each

1484
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: chicken tender and dipping it into.

1485
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 4: The different George's Big ritual. I want to recreate that.

1486
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 3: I know we should do the I love.

1487
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 4: Dinner, don't know.

1488
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: I love this episode.

1489
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: It's me too. It's so classic, like people.

1490
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 4: Talking, people doing that. Enough, People are doing enough more

1491
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 4: the election wouldn't have gone the way.

1492
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: Thank you. Communication is more podcasts, not less, especially how

1493
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: we're doing it where it's like our circle of like

1494
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: minded people like to hear.

1495
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 4: About the New York comedy scene, circuit comedy scene.

1496
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: I know sometimes I'm like, damn, I feel so like

1497
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: these people that you know signed up to and I'm

1498
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: talking about all the people that listen to the comedy

1499
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: podcast that like signed up because they're like, I want

1500
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: to hear something funny the things they know against their

1501
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: will all these years about like which open mics produced

1502
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: which people and like how this changed and blah blah blah.

1503
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: You also guess what can I say something? What if

1504
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: there's one thing this selection has shown, it's that. And

1505
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: I say this essentially seriously, the open mic scene of

1506
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: that era like was a rupture in American politics. It's

1507
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: literally like the people that were in the creek and

1508
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: the cave became Joe Rogan.

1509
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 2: I literally saw Tim Bieling do bits about ice cream.

1510
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: I opt for Tim Dillon in Boston. It was the

1511
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: night he got a phone call that he hadn't gotten SNL,

1512
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: And I remember very well he got a phone call

1513
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,919
Speaker 1: from his reps hadn't gotten SNL. And at the time

1514
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: I was so impressed that someone could even be up

1515
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: for usnel and I was like wow. And and then

1516
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: he went up and crushed and by the way, with

1517
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: material that was with material that is in no way

1518
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 1: political or culture. Okay, let's start a final segment. Let's

1519
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: do a final segment the way I want to be there,

1520
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: so we can all just get a drink.

1521
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 3: No, I know it was so fun.

1522
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 4: Well, imagine imagine my situation of having to go to.

1523
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,480
Speaker 1: The airport that capin where are you San Francisco.

1524
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 4: I'm not performing, I'm literally my brother just moved there

1525
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 4: and sister lives there, and so we're going to see them.

1526
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 4: But I will say that was actually one of my

1527
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 4: favorite shows my whole tour at Bimbos.

1528
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: Oh, Bimbos is great. You know what I did last

1529
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: time I went there? I did the Swedish American Music Hall.

1530
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 4: Okay, you don't know. Is it beautiful.

1531
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 1: It's like probably like a three hundred person venue in

1532
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: like a really good location. It's nondescript. I've never heard

1533
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: about it before, and it was like the most fun

1534
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: show of the tour. Like I just had so much

1535
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: fun they had.

1536
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 4: They were an amazing crowd, good vibes there. But yeah,

1537
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 4: I'm literally just going for family and fun. But yeah,

1538
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 4: I love the I'm flying out a burbank, so it's easier.

1539
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 3: So they say I've never done it.

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01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 4: It's easy, breezy. If there's one.

1541
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: Room, go to go have a meal at Nopallito.

1542
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,480
Speaker 4: Putting it on my list.

1543
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 2: So well, we should do our final segment, which is

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01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 2: called shout outs, Yes, where we give a shout out

1545
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 2: to anything that we are enjoying, people, places, things, ideas.

1546
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 2: Imagine dozen one, you're at TRL shouting out to your

1547
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 2: squad back home, but about anything that you like. We

1548
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 2: always make them up on the spot. And this is

1549
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: such an amazing time politically to be overly positive because

1550
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 2: it feels so natural and normal.

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01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 3: George, do you have one?

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01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: Did I already shout out on beauty when I was

1553
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: reading it?

1554
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 3: I don't remember, to be honest.

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01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna think of what I'm going to

1556
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: think about. We always think of the mom this podcast.

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01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I have one.

1558
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 2: It is like not groundbreaking, what's up freaks, losers and perverts.

1559
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: I'm here today to be a basic gay guy and

1560
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 2: guess what to even be a basic gay guy? Late,

1561
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: because this will be coming out in two weeks and

1562
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 2: even as I'm saying it right now, it's late, but

1563
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 2: I want to give a shout out to Addison Ray's

1564
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: Aquamarine Ah Marine. This song is good as hell, And

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01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 2: of course Addison Ray is an interesting figure because it's

1566
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 2: she starts in the space of sort of irony. You're like, oh,

1567
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 2: so this is funny that we're standing this girl, and

1568
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: then you know, each song you're like, well, wait, I'm

1569
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 2: liking this more and more and diepeps You can be like,

1570
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 2: oh this is good, and I was like, yeah, this

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01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 2: is fun, this is good. Aquamarine has taken over me

1572
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 2: in a huge way. It's speaking to me in a

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01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,759
Speaker 2: way where I'm like, this girl has taste, she has style.

1574
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: This is both hearkening to the past and yet completely

1575
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 2: fresh and completely new. I'm feeling like kind of blown

1576
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 2: away and sort of like I don't know what's going

1577
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 2: on in.

1578
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 3: That team over there, but it is.

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01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 2: Good stuff and it makes me feel fun. It makes

1580
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 2: me feel hopeful, and I think it's nice when someone

1581
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: does something sort of like that is simple but so

1582
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 2: perfect despite that, and I think it's doing less and

1583
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: it's uh and because of that, it's doing more. So

1584
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 2: huge out to Addison Ray Aquamarine. I love it and

1585
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 2: I can't stop listening to it.

1586
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 4: Wow, I'm more of a giant Pepsi girl. But I agree,

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01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 4: she's doing amazing work.

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01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really really doing amazing work. Yeah. I also,

1589
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, people were saying Aquamarine a sort of Ray

1590
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: of Light era esque and that has made me go

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01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: back and re listen a ray of light and I

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01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 1: mean no skips.

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01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 3: No, I love ray of light.

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01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 1: Okay, George, what's up Interior to Corfe, I want to

1595
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: give a shout out to purchasing a nice silver picture frame. Wow,

1596
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: this is something. This is something you think you're going

1597
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: to do when you're sixty five seventy eighty five years old,

1598
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: and I'm here to tell you you can do it

1599
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: when you're thirty three. Go online and purchase one and

1600
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: then go to Nation's Photo Lab dot com and get

1601
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: a photoprint that it's very cheap. You put it in

1602
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: the frame you have some decor. It is so actually

1603
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 1: relatively easy to find an affordable silver frame that actually

1604
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 1: looks very expensive, and you get to feel like a

1605
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,839
Speaker 1: sophisticated grandmother in the Upper East Side that has pictures

1606
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 1: of her grandkids everywhere. But it can be just pictures

1607
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: of your friends or your loved ones, or your siblings,

1608
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: or your family or even your pet whoa So get

1609
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: out there and an easy way to just really spruce

1610
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: up the decor in your house, especially in this climate,

1611
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: if you want to just look around and see things

1612
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: that make you feel good. Is to purchase an affordable

1613
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: silver frame and put a photograph inside of that frame.

1614
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 4: Wao ciders. Okay, I have two I'm gonna do quickly.

1615
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 4: I want to say shout out to my travel girls,

1616
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 4: my absolute road dogs. Let me tell you this, shout

1617
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 4: out to carrying two small suitcases instead of one big one.

1618
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 4: Let me tell you why it's cumbersome. It's always overweight,

1619
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 4: get too small bags, you're eat walking eve and down

1620
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 4: the stairs looking so this word has been taken by

1621
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 4: Society of demure. I mean it's really so delicate to

1622
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 4: walk with two small suitcases. Shout out to two instead

1623
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 4: of one big and shout out to the brand cal

1624
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 4: packs c A L, P A K. They make amazing

1625
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 4: like toiletry kits carry on bags. Sup. I don't know

1626
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 4: there's suitcase, but I have like a tote from them.

1627
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 4: I really support a big backpack from them. Shout out

1628
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 4: to Dot brand. Shout out to carrying a few small

1629
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 4: things instead of one big thing, which you wouldn't think

1630
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 4: will be better, but it is. And the other thing

1631
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 4: I was going to shout out is shout out to

1632
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 4: taking deleting Instagram and TikTok off your phone for the

1633
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 4: then re downloading at night to check in like, wow,

1634
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 4: And let me tell you this, when they're off your phone,

1635
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 4: you know, I like to scroll instead for a little joke.

1636
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 4: I mean, hit is the real real get some beautifully

1637
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 4: pre worn.

1638
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: You know I'm the king of that? Are you really?

1639
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 4: Oh cool? I love it so much.

1640
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: Although I'll tell you one thing. I tried to sell

1641
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: something on the real reel. Yeah, it was a brand

1642
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: new combde gars on sweater and I ended up getting

1643
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: forty dollars. Yep.

1644
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 4: It's unfortunately doesn't go both ways for some reason, for

1645
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 4: some reason. Anyways, two disparate thoughts, but I would be

1646
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 4: remiss if I didn't bring them both up at this

1647
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 4: during these trying times.

1648
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, I mean that those are the two

1649
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 2: little suitcases you're carrying both.

1650
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 4: I don't know why. I just like it's really changed everything.

1651
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 4: And guess what, just check them? You know. Actually, rock

1652
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 4: stand Gay inspired me because I feel like I wouldn't.

1653
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,560
Speaker 4: I heard an interview with her once where she was

1654
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,839
Speaker 4: just like, always check a bag, stop trying, stop trying

1655
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 4: to make everything fit. She was just to let yourself

1656
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 4: do that. Wow, what do y'all think about that?

1657
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 2: I I understand the reasoning, but I love to not

1658
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: check it bag.

1659
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree well, and I also think it's different.

1660
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: I think it's different for men and women. Look, I

1661
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: think you're carrying around more different, You're carrying around more. Yeah,

1662
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: especially in this current climate. Everything else is basically the same.

1663
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 4: Rock is rock and roll.

1664
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: No, I don't.

1665
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 4: I like to wear multiple shoes, so I have to anyway. Yeah,

1666
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 4: I'm asleep from my own thoughts.

1667
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this has been amazing, Catherine. Thank you

1668
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: for doing this.

1669
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 4: And thanks for having me on.

1670
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 3: Where can people watch your special?

1671
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 4: By the way, Oh right now, everyone's actingly It's so difficult,

1672
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 4: but it's you just just it's on a stream. It's

1673
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 4: act Live Nation as a streaming platform called veeps. If

1674
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 4: you go to veeps dot com slash Katherine Cohen, you

1675
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 4: can either buy a ticket to just watch my special

1676
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 4: or you can subscribe and watch all their offerings. But

1677
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 4: if you want to watch just the special, you can

1678
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 4: just go to veeps dot com slash Katherin Cohen. It's

1679
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 4: available globally, so no matter what country that means, no

1680
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 4: matter what country live and you can you're able to

1681
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 4: watch it. And I appreciate it and thank you for

1682
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 4: watching it. Yes, and please stream. Well. I have to

1683
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 4: say this will be perfect timing because my album drops

1684
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 4: November fifteenth, So go to Spotify for some new songs,

1685
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 4: some old songs, and we're gonna be celebrating in style

1686
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 4: on Thursday.

1687
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 3: I can't wait at the big party.

1688
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, tell all your pals.

1689
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 3: I will.

1690
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 2: But you you misunderstand one thing. I also have zero

1691
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: friends here.

1692
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 4: Well, I invited Nori, I invited Joe works at it.

1693
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 3: Do you know Michelle Davis?

1694
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 4: No, but she's welcome to come.

1695
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 3: Well, she's there, all of light the room.

1696
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell him they're all fun.

1697
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 4: Think there were someone else that I saw you in

1698
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 4: a photo with you been working with anyways?

1699
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: Could I go fly here here immediately?

1700
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 3: No?

1701
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: I meant I was making a joke about you having

1702
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 1: a conversation about the.

1703
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 4: Thank you George for joining us on our podcast.

1704
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 3: Amazing guest.

1705
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.

1706
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: I will say, I have been You can ask Matthew.

1707
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: I've been walking around the house saying, can you send

1708
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: me that? Can send me that?

1709
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 4: I will say. I love to write a catch you.

1710
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: Look it's a catchy hook.

1711
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1712
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: It's a catchy hook.

1713
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

1714
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: And you know what else is really amazing that you

1715
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: did is because that's a phrase you do organically say

1716
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: in your life. You catch yourself and then you sing

1717
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: it because you want to say. Else is like that?

1718
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean, even like a DIAPEPSI can be like it's

1719
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: like a it's it's something you do actually say in

1720
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: your real life, and then it reminds you of the song.

1721
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 4: That's nice. Yeah, yeah, that's great.

1722
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: You know what actually is like that for me is

1723
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 1: Tanashi has a song called all Hands on Deck, and

1724
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: every time I say all hands on deck, I have

1725
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: to say all hands on.

1726
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 4: Deck, and for me, I go oh, I hear all

1727
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 4: eyes on me, I go on.

1728
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for doing this.

1729
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 4: I love you.

1730
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:52,000
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