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Speaker 3: And we have a special guest in the building today.

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Speaker 4: Listen. I get excited very few times.

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Speaker 1: Whoa all right, real fire legend, three or five legend.

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Speaker 4: We got a three or five legend in the building

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Speaker 3: We do have a three or five.

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Speaker 4: very few compliments better than that one. Thank you expert

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, listen, you know I love Poppy.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so you know how that is.

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Speaker 1: And we're also talking about what he's doing now and

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Speaker 1: But to see your friendship on display in a relationship

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Speaker 1: I've admired you guys since the University of Florida.

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Speaker 4: Well, we appreciate that, No, you since Miami High.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, the high school squash show. Remember used to

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Speaker 4: Yes, talk about that.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 4: Let's go right into that day.

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Speaker 1: I used to have this high school sports show that

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Speaker 4: I felt like by the way, he's a champion. Frank

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Speaker 4: They won the championship, obviously, don't. I don't know what

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the addresses were.

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Speaker 2: I looked at that roster every year. It was it

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Speaker 4: it makes no sense that someone of this general size

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Speaker 3: He turned, he did. He figured it like it was.

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Speaker 3: He's always at Florida.

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Speaker 2: I don't know Miami High, but at Florida was always

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: I would say this, you inspired me, and you inspired me,

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Speaker 1: I have not touched sixteen because you want to see

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Speaker 4: Beginning, yeah so it's. Crazy before Pat, riley there was

439
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty. Eight miami doesn't have any major. Sports, really

440
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 4: it's The dolphins and nothing. Else and they're gonna teach

441
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 4: us about. Sports they're gonna help make us major. League

442
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 4: it's before The panthers are. Here they get here before

443
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 4: baseball basketball is going to try and take over a football.

444
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 4: Town they go Through Ron rostein And Kevin lockry and

445
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 4: and once Pat riley gets here With Mickey, harrison people

446
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 4: think it was the big. Time it was not the big.

447
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 4: Time they were. Doing they were practicing like adjacent to

448
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 4: a hospital in like, This like Pat riley went from

449
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 4: the top of basketball Showtime New york to coming To,

450
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 4: miami and they dressed it up as something that was,

451
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 4: fancy but it was like it was THE nba in

452
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 4: a spring break town like it. Was it was beneath

453
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 4: it was isn't. No this is Before lasal before lasal

454
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Speaker 4: off The. Palmetto they were adjacent to a. HOSPITAL lasa

455
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 4: was the. Upgrade oh, yes a high school gym was the.

456
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 4: Upgrade that gym man the so to see it grow from, There,

457
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 4: Right so you're hiring all the pizazz of whatever Pat riley,

458
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 4: is and he brought the credibility and then he built

459
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 4: something that actually. Mattered but where it started it was

460
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 4: it was minor, League like it was the very beginnings

461
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 4: Of Heat basketball were them trying hard but not really

462
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 4: knowing what they were. Doing and then and then when

463
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 4: and you know how the organizations. Run when The ariisons

464
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 4: And riley and all of them get together to build

465
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 4: everything that the architecture of the place has been built.

466
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 4: Around they achieved everything that they achieved from like with

467
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 4: With i'm going to say family, values, right like because

468
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 4: your your building is amazing to. Me, OKAY i think

469
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 4: it's like a military complex for, Millionaires like it's a military.

470
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 4: School it feels part science lab humans humans as test

471
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 4: pigeons for how far can we push the human body

472
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 4: on pain and? Excellence DO i have anything wrong?

473
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 7: Here?

474
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: No, RIGHT.

475
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: I. Don't you'll find. Out look the first word and

476
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 4: culture is called, okay like that's a Good so, look

477
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 4: so you, guys people think playing a game for money

478
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 4: that must be. Fun you guys were in a military

479
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 4: environment where you had to be more disciplined than other

480
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 4: people From serbia and the inner cities competing for. Money

481
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 4: you had to be more disciplined than, them better, shape

482
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 4: tougher than. Them that was honed in the furnace of

483
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 4: whatever Pat riley built around the the you, know the

484
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 4: the glowing nuclear epicenter that that building has been in

485
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 4: this city and for this, uh for the regional pride

486
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 4: of this. City as basketball ripped the town away from,

487
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 4: football the Fucking, dolphins the Undefeated, dolphins shoeless, expressway shoeless

488
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 4: steakhouse ripped the city from The, dolphins because you guys built,

489
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 4: this this orb of glowing nuclear excellence that you guys

490
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 4: were thrown in the maw of the, furnace fed your

491
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: feet and your knees and your elbows and and fed

492
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 4: to the machine so that it could like feed. Everybody

493
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 4: it's pretty. COOL i love the way he broke that.

494
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 6: Down nobody's ever brought it down LIKE i WISH i

495
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 6: could explain it damn right.

496
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 4: There but so take BECAUSE i admire you guys so

497
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 4: much BECAUSE i don't really believe that people see the

498
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 4: sacrifices you. Made Man Mike miller was walking with a

499
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 4: bad back out of the. WOMB i don't think of.

500
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 4: HIM i think of him and he's not a graceful

501
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 4: athlete In florida at The university Of. FLORIDA i think

502
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 4: of him as somebody who has had a bad back since,

503
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 4: colleges like always walking like, it BECAUSE i imagine he's

504
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 4: always in physical pain and overcame it and beat other

505
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 4: people all the time to win championships while taking less.

506
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 4: Money while this guy takes less, money doesn't go To

507
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 4: denver because his mom is on her, deathbed and Pat

508
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 4: riley in the ORGANIZATION is drives to is mom's funeral

509
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 4: because they're there for, him because he connects with the

510
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 4: organization from a place that. Mom i'm taking a lot

511
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 4: many fewer. Millions DO i have any of this? Wrong

512
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 4: to stay in to stay In, miami and it's the

513
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 4: last time he sees his mother's. Smile, Correct, yes that's.

514
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 4: TRUE i really admired.

515
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: Homework Dans, unprepared do You i've been covering you guys

516
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: for a long time and admiring what you do and

517
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: disappointed that the sports media doesn't do a better job

518
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: of just celebrating all of that is all that is

519
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: so that the media can have relationships with you guys

520
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: that is not that are not, contentious and that are

521
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: that are just more. Humanizing i'm happy you brought that

522
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: up because we talk about sports media now we talk

523
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: about having relationships with, players but now sports media is

524
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: at a place where you can get it straight from

525
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: the player and the, source and you don't have to

526
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: have a relationship with the. Players do you think that's?

527
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: Healthy you think it is better that? Way did you

528
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: see this?

529
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 4: COMING i would say that it's obviously, threatening right because

530
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 4: the media has had a very safe. SPACE espn did a, fascinating,

531
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 4: interesting smart. Thing they took the credibility of newspapers for fifteen,

532
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 4: years made themselves a journalism outfit when they don't have,

533
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: to and put a bunch OF tv people journalism people

534
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 4: on television and gave a lot of these good jobs to.

535
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: Journalists now the athletes are coming for those. Jobs The pat,

536
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 4: mcafeees The Shannon. SHARPS i am in the vanity. Business

537
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 4: the vanity business tends to be pretty. Insecure we're not

538
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 4: as tough as you guys are about, competition so that

539
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 4: stuff could be seen as threatening from every. Angle BUT

540
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 4: i both welcome that fight and love the democracy of that.

541
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: PROCESS i want you guys to get the audience that

542
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 4: you crave and, deserve because you know how to get

543
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 4: audience being the things that you are. About And i'm

544
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 4: profoundly grateful THAT i get to make a living doing

545
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: some of this stuff this way in this, city BECAUSE

546
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 4: i just can't believe that all of this exists for

547
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 4: us in the media, space that it's all that the

548
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: entire media business is crumbling and, shaping, shaking streaming, Services, Hollywood,

549
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 4: disney all of it is under pressure and, duress and

550
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 4: we are able to do something me, independently and you

551
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: guys that that is fun and, different and by making

552
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 4: it threatening to, us you can change the way we

553
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 4: do business because you force us to be better because

554
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 4: now there's a threat in the.

555
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: Environment you talk about the, change so talk about metal.

556
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 2: Art give me what was the idea of all? This

557
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: and and you, know like you, said you talk about the,

558
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: Change i'd like to hear.

559
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: About it's one thing to be a boss and excuse.

560
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: Me and it's another thing to be a. Worker it takes.

561
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: Courage like you, said you have fifty people that you.

562
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: Employ it takes courage to take that next. Step talk

563
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: about like you, said just talk about that.

564
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: Courage SO i wish it were, courage OR i defined

565
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 4: it as courage Because i'd be kinder to, myself and

566
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 4: and BECAUSE i think courage as something as not the

567
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: absence of, fear but being able to overcome. FEAR i wasn't.

568
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 4: FEARFUL i was pushed into a position THAT i wasn't

569
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 4: expecting BECAUSE espn let go of my mentor's son who

570
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 4: worked on the show without telling telling, me and it

571
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: was a DISRESPECT i couldn't, abide and SO i left THE.

572
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 4: Espn BUT i didn't think of it as. COURAGEOUS i

573
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: just thought of it as sort of duty. Bound like

574
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 4: if you're going to rent my father's accent because you

575
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: underserved The hispanic demographic and need A latin television, show

576
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: you're not going to think that you also own my

577
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: voice when you rent his. Accent and SO i had

578
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: TO i had to, leave and and and so it.

579
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 4: IT i don't know if you guys have ever had

580
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: principled fights that you don't think of as brave just

581
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: because you just have to do.

582
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: Business you said it so.

583
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 6: Many, words some cards standing. BUSINESS i WISH i said

584
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 6: it that that's what you did. Biness, yeah but so

585
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 6: you asked, Me i'm not a business. PERSON i.

586
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 4: Don't this is now scary BECAUSE i have the responsibility

587
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: of PEOPLE i care about and and but that's also

588
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 4: the beautiful, part, Right like it can be the responsibility

589
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 4: Or i've built a media company In miami that exists

590
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 4: even as media companies shake and and they know that

591
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 4: we've got a solid. Thing and our listeners also, know,

592
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: see this is What i'd like for you guys to

593
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 4: build where they really see the treasure of who it

594
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: is you are and what your relationship. Is our listener

595
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: and our our listeners and our audience went with, us

596
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 4: at least in part because they knew that we were

597
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 4: the show that if you let go of one of,

598
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: us we're all going and when you connect with your

599
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 4: entertainment vehicle from there in this streaming, environment, right we

600
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: got we got an army that will follow us anywhere

601
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 4: for three hours a day because they're, like, NO i

602
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 4: ride with these fuckers? Anywhere can you stand on. Business

603
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: it's a high honor to get that from you. GUYS

604
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 4: i cannot tell you how RIDICULOUS i feel getting that

605
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: flattery from you two. People it's. True thank. You you

606
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: don't know how much that honors. ME i feel Like

607
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 4: i'm living in a cartoon right.

608
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: NOW i, mean oftentimes you see people in the, situation,

609
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: bro and when it comes to, money people sell the

610
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: things they values and things go out the. Window SO

611
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: i got to command you for, that, bro because that's

612
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: not the norm anymore these. Days you know What i'm,

613
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: Saying the, morals you, know having compassion for people in

614
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: certain situations and all those different. Things nobody takes that

615
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: into consideration. Anymore you Know's i'm gonna follow the money

616
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: where the money leave. Me you know What i'm, saying

617
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: DON'T i don't care about. THIS i don't care about.

618
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: THAT a lot of times we throw our morals in

619
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: the way we was raised out of the window when

620
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: it comes to. Money SO i commend you for, that

621
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: you know What i'm. SAYING i don't know if you

622
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: think it was courageous, SHIT i think it.

623
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 4: WAS i thank you for. THAT i just didn't there

624
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: wasn't a. Choice it didn't feel like it was a

625
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: choice to conquer my. Fears it just sort of felt,

626
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 4: like you have to take care of your OWN i.

627
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 4: DON'T i would imagine based on What i've seen of

628
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: YouTube playing, together going through the fire, together and doing this,

629
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: TOGETHER i would imagine that this man is a brother to.

630
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: You he is. Not it's it's not family in some

631
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 4: sort of way that everyone says family and not even

632
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: like other, teammates not even like. That this is a

633
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 4: level of brotherhood that will be. Forever, sure we almost

634
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 4: named it that was that was one of the.

635
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: Top he was, like they're gonna think we saw we

636
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: probably don't want to start with, that but we almost use.

637
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 4: That Sh jesus slightly less soft Than avenue And. Ivory,

638
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 4: YEAH i was gonna actually ask you, guys what was

639
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: the second name name?

640
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: Choice?

641
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: Before was pushing that ship hard.

642
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: MAN i, mean my wife don't even talk to me

643
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: in the, morning and she was slipping that shit.

644
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 4: IN i was, like, yeah, okay now we're. Friends because

645
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: you want, SOMETHING.

646
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 3: I will say.

647
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: This before we got out, here you talked a little

648
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: bit about you know you DONNA U d BECAUSE i

649
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: think he's just an Amazing.

650
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: What did you just call, me which is weird to.

651
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 4: ME i know, you my wife caused, me but BUT.

652
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: I think he does an awesome job with with this

653
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: this part of the. Business, Right but you set some

654
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: stuff off there BECAUSE i think it's important for people to,

655
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: see like how do you in this side of the,

656
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: business how do you still entertain but at the same

657
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: time maintained the integrity of, it, right like being who you.

658
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: ARE i know you said the, question but like that's

659
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: Something i'd be very interested to.

660
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 4: Hear, so, UH i don't know if you guys have.

661
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 4: Noticed Uh, So hollywood soon is going to be Just

662
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: netflix And, amazon and there's sort of a hedge fun

663
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 4: corporate overrun of less interesting things are going to be,

664
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: made less political things are going to be, made going

665
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 4: to be your content's going to be a little bit.

666
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: Antiseptic part of the reason that we did everything that

667
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: we did beyond the principal stand of you can't you

668
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 4: can't kick out a family member like that is because

669
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: my parents Are cuban, exiles and freedom has always been

670
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: the most important thing to, Me like it. Matters i've

671
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 4: never negotiated contract, money to his, Point i've always negotiated

672
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 4: how DO i get to say WHAT i, want do

673
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 4: WHAT i, want let my father do what he wants without.

674
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 4: Interference and so one of the PLACES i aired AT

675
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 4: espn is THAT i wasn't more ambitious about let me

676
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 4: have more and more and more and, more BECAUSE i

677
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 4: wanted just freedom to be left. ALONE i didn't want

678
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 4: people to see too much of what we were. DOING

679
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 4: i remember HOW i got suspended Because i'm trying to

680
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 4: put you, Know lebron billboards up In, akron telling him you,

681
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 4: know you're, welcome Love, miami AND i get. Suspended, Spended,

682
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 4: YEAH i got, WELL i got suspended for it because

683
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 4: they weren't listen to the. Show if they've, been which

684
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 4: is WHAT i, WANTED i, don't BUT i got suspended

685
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: for not telling anybody we were going to do, that

686
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 4: but we were talking about it in the air because

687
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 4: for two, weeks BECAUSE i had the freedom that nobody was.

688
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 4: Listening BUT i didn't want corporate. Intervention so to the

689
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: point that you're making about how how do you navigate

690
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 4: all that while being, Entertaining i've learned a lot of

691
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 4: things in journalism in my. TWENTIES i learned from a

692
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 4: lot OF i will say righteous judgmental sports columnists that

693
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 4: the job was to judge the athlete and rain down

694
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 4: judgment on the athlete and. Critique that's HOW i learned

695
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 4: to do the job in my. Twenties that's the wrong

696
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 4: way to do. IT i regret some THINGS i wrote

697
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: About Alonzo morning And. LOYALTY i was learning how to

698
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: do the job from, others didn't have my own, voice

699
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: didn't know how to do. It the next thirty years

700
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 4: after that are all about how DO i get to

701
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: the freedom of learning all the things to do so

702
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 4: THAT i can do this exactly the way THAT i

703
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 4: want to by the end without us any any interference at.

704
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 4: All and it's why we got in trouble on some

705
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 4: of the stuff that we did AT espn because it

706
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 4: was bucking against some of their.

707
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: Rules two things with that one, is now THAT i

708
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: know that's WHAT i was, taught it'll make me mad

709
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: as mad as. Y'all, no because that's just WHAT i was.

710
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: Taught so that'll make me as mad as you know

711
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: how it is like when y'all come in the locker,

712
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: room everybody hit these motherfucker.

713
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 4: There you motherfuckers go.

714
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: Again.

715
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: Hi, Yes but the second part of that who COULD

716
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: i call to put up a billboard at somebody else

717
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: city talk my?

718
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 4: Ship would you be able to do? That that is that's.

719
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: Legendary it's pretty. Good i'm proud of that. ONE i

720
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 4: need that. Number that. One that one was good That

721
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: the backstory on that one is funny because Originally i'm

722
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 4: trying to buy a newspaper. Ad they say it's one

723
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars just to put a newspaper and, yeah

724
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: well back, then, yeah it's a little longer, ago but you're,

725
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 4: right it shouldn't have been that. Much but we were

726
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 4: looking for estimates and, uh The Cleveland plain, dealer Because

727
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 4: lebron was coming back, home refuse to sell it to.

728
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 4: Us they, said, no we're not doing. That they refused our. Business,

729
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 4: uh and so we needed an. Alternative and it turns

730
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: out That akron billboards are like much less than, that

731
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: and so so they saved me a lot of. Money

732
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: and it was like eleven or Six ACRON i don't

733
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 4: remember how Many acron. Billboards and they all, said, yes you're,

734
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: Welcome lebron Love miami is what they. Said AND i

735
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: was going to fly a plane over his homecoming that

736
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: said the same. Thing it was set. UP i had

737
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 4: the banner and, everything it was set. UP i will

738
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: tell you a. Secret i'll tell you a Secret i've

739
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 4: Never i've never told before. THAT espn made me immediately

740
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: take down the billboards and they immediately told me you

741
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 4: can't fly that. Plane and SO i got A i

742
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 4: got a call from a high ranking member of The

743
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: Miami heat organization Saying i'm going to fly the. Plane

744
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 4: i'm going to do. It And i'm, like you can't do,

745
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 4: that you, can't you can't do. That i'm gonna get.

746
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: Fired you're gonna get me. Fired i'm not gonna HAVE,

747
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 4: plausi but somebody else it's gonna look like. That you

748
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: should have called.

749
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: Whoever was talking about flying that plane was probably willing

750
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: to go down.

751
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 4: With it was a dark. Cloud it was for a.

752
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: While we went to funk for a while when we

753
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: lost the king around. HERE i mean, THAT i don't,

754
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: know that's just. Natural it was a little dark. Cloud

755
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: it was for a minute when he.

756
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: Left talk about that.

757
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: Though so you're in the you're in obviously the media

758
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: uproar when bron chose to come, here and then When

759
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: broun chooses.

760
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: To leave, here so talk about both.

761
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: Sides, yeah talk about the highs and lows of on your,

762
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: side what you're, hearing what you're, seeing what's going on

763
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: when he says he's coming and The Big three, comes

764
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: and then when he.

765
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 3: Leaves i'd like to hear the.

766
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 4: DIFFERENCE i, MEAN i was just profoundly grateful for all of.

767
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 4: It it was just a it's a content. Bonanza you're

768
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: coming down to our city and you're making, us uh

769
00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 4: like this just electrical pulsating thing For paul Millsaps game,

770
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: seventeen and you're like watching this thing that matters so

771
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: much to the city because it's very Much miami against

772
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 4: The United. States the only other time it's been like

773
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: that Was university Of miami football. Teams, yes didn't.

774
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 8: Make him stop being A gator for a, second you,

775
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 8: know like those because what those those teams were hated

776
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 8: And miami forged around, them and it was, like, yes

777
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 8: this is an ethnic fun team that trample.

778
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 4: Sportsmanship you guys were that polarizing without any of the bat,

779
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 4: like without any of the stuff that was going to

780
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 4: horrify the white customer that you knew about that you

781
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: knew about, it that you knew about it. Right but you,

782
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 4: guys so you're this polarizing theme thing coast to, coast

783
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 4: and only polarizing because you celebrated the championship before we

784
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 4: dribbled the.

785
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 1: Basketball it would have hit something crazy because you touched

786
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: on it earlier about how hard it is and it's not.

787
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: Fun people don't understand. That people think, like once we

788
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: got that team, together that it was fun and it

789
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: just messed and it just jailed.

790
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 4: And we just had to we had to.

791
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: PARADE i tell people all the, time nothing about that

792
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: shit was fun until you were riding down the street

793
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: in that.

794
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: Parade that's the only part about that shit that was.

795
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: Fun none of that shit was fun because there was

796
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: expectations and we understood those. Expectations if we don't, win

797
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna blow this shit. Up and now we sacrifice.

798
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: Money we sacrificed. Time mike talked about this. Before we sacrificed.

799
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: Money we sacrificed, time and we're getting traded.

800
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 4: Some fun and game and we're game away and game,

801
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 4: away game In boston away from your sacrifice.

802
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: Is meant nothing echoing laughter about the sacrifices that you.

803
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 4: Made laughing stocks because you guys took all the discounts

804
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: and look at. That it was supposed to be. Easy

805
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: one of the weird things That i'll never get, though Because,

806
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: god you guys changed the sports so much over the

807
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 4: last fifteen, years SO i figure that it's going to

808
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: be easy that those, years and it wasn't. Easy AND

809
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 4: i think you guys get the reputation that you have

810
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: is hard earned champions because it was. Hard if it

811
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 4: had been, easy it would have Liked lebron would have

812
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 4: been looked At lessland And dwayne too if it had been.

813
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 4: Easy but the part that was confusing to. Me So

814
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 4: durant sees him do, that And lebron did that Because,

815
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: Pearson garnett And allen were, together And durant does it

816
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 4: and they went, easily And i'm, like, well that must be,

817
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: Fun like they went, Easily like it must be fun

818
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: to play basketball like. That that's the greatest THING i ever.

819
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: Seen you can pass The, durant or you can or

820
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: you can pass The steph And draymonald do all the

821
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 4: ship only he wants to. Do let me ask you

822
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 4: this because how was that not fun for?

823
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 3: Him?

824
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: Why and BECAUSE i want to talk about, this but

825
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: this is WHAT i, Noticed why was The Miami heats

826
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: team hated for the decision we. Made BUT i Think

827
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: Golden state team was loved.

828
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: Nobody we were more.

829
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: First they Love, clay they love stuff that that team was,

830
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: first was lifted and they were. Loved but When lebron

831
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: came to, us we were. Hated why was that a

832
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: different reaction from the media and from the.

833
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: WORLD i can answer TO i think, honestly And i'm

834
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: gonna let you answer, too because you'll Be you're way

835
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: better at there THAN i. Am BUT i think the

836
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: reality is like they hated us so much for doing

837
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: it that they had to love someone else to do.

838
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: It but for, again right like they they hated us

839
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: for doing, it they hated us for doing. IT i

840
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: don't know how you guy saw it on the media

841
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 2: side of, things but like we it. Was it was

842
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: a blessing to me Because i'd never been in relevance

843
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: in THE. Nba LIKE i hadn't been in. Relevance is

844
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: the REASON i came. HERE i wanted to see WHAT

845
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: i do on the. STAGE i wanted to like EITHER

846
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 2: i was gonna ship, Myself i'm gonna actually. Perform but

847
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: that to me is they hated us so much that

848
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: now you need someone to. Like and when they did,

849
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: IT i think it was more of the like on that.

850
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: SIDE i thought it was because step and play with

851
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: light Skin that's Why i'm just being.

852
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 4: Honest, see see you know it was going around the.

853
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: SKIN i had the undercurrent of, it And i'm, LIKE

854
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: i can't say THAT i felt it off. Him And

855
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 4: i'm like thinking to myself.

856
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: Twenty, words he says light. Skinning but also AM i?

857
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 4: Wrong AM i?

858
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: WRONG i look not how to two teams are perceived.

859
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 4: IT i don't think you're, Wrong AND i think there

860
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 4: are a lot of. Variables AND i think you were

861
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 4: first and and and look that doing the thing on the. Stage,

862
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 4: YES i don't need to tell you that arrogant black. Athlete,

863
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 4: however it is that you arrive at arrogant black athletes

864
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 4: celebrating something before it has been earned is going to

865
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 4: be seen a certain. Way so there's, that but i'd

866
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: put that off to the. Side i'd also put in

867
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 4: there That dwayne And lebron throughout all of, that became

868
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: adult spokesman for things ranging From Trayvon martin to we

869
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 4: need to improve our, schools and became adults in a

870
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 4: way That steph And clay have not had to Because

871
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 4: dwayne And lebron were already doing that and we're sore

872
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 4: of leaders, There and, LIKE i found that entire time,

873
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 4: fascinating captivating for a lot of different. Reasons the brotherhood

874
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 4: Of dwayne And lebron was. Beautiful lebron coming here and

875
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 4: taking a little brother role and doing two media sessions

876
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 4: a day and wanting to learn From. Dwayne it's a beautiful.

877
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 4: Story IF i wrapped that story in The olympic flag

878
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 4: and made it about Like olympic, patriotism we would love that, team,

879
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 4: Right Steve, Kerr Actually STEVE i wrote that one, time

880
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 4: And Steve kerr wrote me a note saying before he

881
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 4: coached The, warriors what a beautiful thing to write in

882
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 4: the middle of what that was going, on Where i'm,

883
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 4: like do you know how Much america would love this

884
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 4: particular team and this? Story it's pieces right When i'm

885
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 4: Saying When i'm Saying mike going to his mother's deathbed

886
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 4: with a, team who drives a convoy to the funeral

887
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 4: home to be at his side.

888
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: In Liberty city nine, O'clock i'm, like pat about nine

889
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: thirty you're gonna have to get up out of here.

890
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: Real.

891
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: Talk, pat you got about thirty move. Minutes i'm gonna

892
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: walk you To. Yoka But pat, was, yeah they.

893
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: Came that he would Love dwayne the way that he,

894
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 4: does the game balls That i'm going, After Tyler hansbro

895
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: like all the stuff you guys. HAD i was so

896
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: proud to write about, it to see, it to feel,

897
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 4: it to be next to, it to profit off of,

898
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 4: it because you guys brought a whole economy of attention

899
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 4: down here to. Sports you, GUYS i moved to The

900
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 4: cleveland or we got a. Studio i'm doing a speedo

901
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: bet With Charles. Barkley we're at the center of the

902
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: universe in sports because you guys brought all of that.

903
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 4: Here him with his.

904
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: Bad back motheruck still, bad still been trying To BUT

905
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: i don't know what you don't know about that. Story

906
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: i'll tell you something that you don't know about that.

907
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: Story as me And mike were talking about that story

908
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: and we talked about what they offered, him and we

909
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: talked about what we were going to do because of

910
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: the brotherhood that we, have And mike crazy as.

911
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 4: Hell he's, like, yeah you ain't. GOING i ain't, going

912
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 4: you know What i'm, Saying and.

913
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: That was that's that's what my brother was, like what

914
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna do, here because we always wanted to have

915
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: the chance to play together and we talked about that since.

916
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: College but that was around the time that the game

917
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: was changing and the three point shot was what it.

918
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: Was it was either dunks in the paint or it

919
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: was three point. Shots so Obviously mike was the choice

920
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: at that, moment but we we were having conversations behind

921
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: the scenes because you talk about that brotherhood and those

922
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: things and those. Conversations and then another point that people

923
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: don't know Is lebron didn't know, me never played with.

924
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: Me Chris bosh didn't know, me never played With.

925
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 4: You were On Dwayne wade's word is what you were?

926
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: On?

927
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 4: Dwayne you That Dwayne wade cash that, check and it's

928
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 4: like and it's, like we're all gonna share our money,

929
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 4: here and this is gonna be, fun, right the five of,

930
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 4: Us this is gonna be. Fun, well we'll just we'll

931
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 4: take the. Discounts we'll sign you, guys Weren't they weren't

932
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 4: signing contracts until the stage was coming, up, Right and

933
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 4: you guys are taking millions, less and it's crazy to

934
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 4: think that sports would be such a cauldron that you

935
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 4: guys couldn't enjoy any of that when it seemed like

936
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: from WHERE i was, watching it was the most magical

937
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 4: thing that was years for. Me it broke him and

938
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 4: broke itank you. Did how but how great is that

939
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 4: you wanted to test yourself Against how cool is? That?

940
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 4: Mike this is What i'm saying about what the cool

941
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: parts of this story. Were how cool is it that

942
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 4: he wants to test himself against the? Best he could

943
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 4: have scored twenty a night For memphis for the rest of. Time,

944
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 4: NO i want to play against. IT i want to

945
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 4: play against the. Best they think he's taking a. Shortcut,

946
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 4: NO i want to. Know if you give me fifteen

947
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 4: shots a, GAME i swear to You i'll score. Thirty

948
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 4: like he knows he can. Shoot he's taking a lesser

949
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: role in the name of the sacrifice of everybody wants

950
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 4: to be about, winning, right brotherhood? Winning these are cool? Things.

951
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 4: Uh for him to physically test himself against the, BEST

952
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 4: i don't know what it's like to get up in the.

953
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 4: Morning is his physical Body it seems like it would be,

954
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 4: awful lose a, shoe lose a, shoe starts making, threes

955
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 4: helps win the. Championship it's a fucking beautiful story.

956
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: Now so the way you see it, now it's. Beautiful

957
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: way you see it? Now did you always see it like?

958
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: That or now if you've gotten older and you've become

959
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: more experienced and there's different ways to look at this media?

960
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 4: Thing is that how you see it? Now, well it's

961
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 4: not even the media, thing it's sports in. LIFE i

962
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: really appreciate the hard things that people do to be excellent.

963
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 4: WRITERS i one of the things about the sports media

964
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: THAT i THINK i can say it's probably a, generalization

965
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: but we love. Sports we're just not good enough to

966
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 4: do what it is that you guys, did but telling

967
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: the stories about it and loving it and celebrating it

968
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 4: and being awed by the strength in. It i've learned

969
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 4: that sports has taught me. That LIKE i told you

970
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 4: WHEN i started in my, career the job was to remind,

971
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 4: you not As, haslam That shack has never had a

972
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: power forward that was six' ten that. Lit immediately it

973
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 4: was just to criticize or to be critical to not, you,

974
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 4: Know uh And what i've learned is just to really

975
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 4: by talking to, you guys having relationships with you guys were.

976
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 4: Maximum professionals you guys always answered our questions where the,

977
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 4: high school we're still the high school nerds that are

978
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 4: near the jockson. High school everything in adulthood is a

979
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 4: little bit. High school and you guys always tolerated us

980
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: buzzing around the. Locker room and he never made us

981
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 4: feel the way that, you know the locker room, doors

982
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 4: open we might as well be spilling elephant dung and

983
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: flies in your. Private space you guys don't want. Us

984
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 4: there but you guys were like always, exceedingly kind always,

985
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 4: exceedingly professional and and so you made the relationship SOMETHING

986
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: that I believe i wish it were between media and

987
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 4: athletes because it would be.

988
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: More respectful let me ask, you this how hard is

989
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: it to have? Public opinion because what you're saying there

990
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: is like even when you said you didn't use his

991
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: name in the in the article and now in whatever

992
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: it was was what. It was but having a, public

993
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 2: opinion that's, to me it was one of the hardest

994
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: THINGS when I when i got out OF when, I

995
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: retired i told him THIS when i got out. Of

996
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: IT when i RETIRED and i went into. The media

997
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: the hardest thing was stand up there and having a

998
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: public opinion that you actually. Believe in but how it's

999
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 2: going to be perceived is.

1000
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: Another thing talk. About that i'm curious, On that.

1001
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: Like everybody's so. Damn, sensitive yeah but and That's what.

1002
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: I'm SENSITIVE and i was five years you can't even

1003
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: have a public.

1004
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 3: You can't it's hard to.

1005
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 4: Have. Opinion really so this is a Muscle that i've

1006
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: been EXERCISING since i was a twenty year. Old, columnist

1007
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 4: right how.

1008
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: Do you develop?

1009
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 4: A voice back then people are handwriting letters and putting

1010
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 4: stamps on them to insult you when you've written the,

1011
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 4: Hard thing but so you, develop thickness calluses. OF skin

1012
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 4: i look at You and, i'm like how do you

1013
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 4: shoot three pointers? Like that, you're, like well that's a

1014
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 4: that's a Muscle that I've that i've developed for this.

1015
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 4: Many Years uh and and so my job as a

1016
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: columnist and now an entertainment it's it's changed over, the

1017
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 4: years but is to have what a good music producer's ear,

1018
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 4: would be to recognize, good music so, to others not,

1019
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 4: to me not that. Other people my job is to

1020
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 4: write about think about the things that you'll find INTERESTING

1021
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 4: when i, say them NOT things i, find interesting things

1022
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 4: that you will. Find interesting and so that's that, muscle

1023
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 4: working that muscle of HOW do i present an argument

1024
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 4: that will make someone? Feel? Something think rethink what? Humanizes

1025
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 4: athletes what's the sociology? Of sports like all the things

1026
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 4: that it takes that all the stories you could tell

1027
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 4: through Sports From, colin kaepernick all, of them all of

1028
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 4: the stories you could tell. Through sports, THIS playground, i

1029
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 4: think is ONE where i had to must as part

1030
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 4: of the evolution of, the business develop a voice that

1031
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: found Strength in i'm going to give you. My opinion

1032
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 4: i'm going to defend. My opinion i'm going to fight for.

1033
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 4: My opinion i'm going to fight for my opinion in.

1034
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: A way.

1035
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 4: You know that's going to be dangerous when you're Coming

1036
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 4: After donald TRUMP On espn air and their corporate policy

1037
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 4: is we're not going to talk about. Politics HERE and

1038
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 4: i INSIST that i must for all the reasons we've

1039
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 4: covered here about like how you develop a voice and

1040
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 4: the importance of. The voice it's not it's not unlike you,

1041
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 4: asked me how how do you develop a? Public VOICE

1042
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 4: and i would say, to you how do you handle

1043
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 4: the situation that he found himself In After, george floyd

1044
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 4: when the organization is asking him to bring peace between

1045
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 4: the black community and police officers at a time. Of

1046
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 4: Strife and i'm thinking his answer would be some FORM

1047
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 4: of i don't Know how i'm supposed to, handle It

1048
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 4: but i've been preparing for it all.

1049
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: My, life, YEAH yeah i agree one. THOUSAND percent, I

1050
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: mean i wasn't even it wasn't even a thing that.

1051
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: WAS planned i actually was riding with my wife. AND

1052
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: kids i don't know what we were doing this, particular

1053
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: DAY and i got a call from at, that time

1054
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: he was a commission At Key on hardiman and he

1055
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: was the first person that asked me to come and

1056
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: put it on. My RADAR then i got a text

1057
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: message from. The heat but there was, no preparation there

1058
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 1: was no thought process.

1059
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 4: Into it it's Just like i'll.

1060
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: Be there and AT first I thought i was just

1061
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: just to support and just be somebody that can see

1062
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: my face and stand on the. Front line and then

1063
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: it just came to me having a conversation and the

1064
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: mic was in, my face and, you know people were

1065
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: listening to, my voice, you know and that's when you

1066
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: just got to, be authentic you got to. Be vulnerable and,

1067
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, For me i've always been able to touch.

1068
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 1: The people i've never separated myself no matter how MUCH money.

1069
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: I made i've never been a guy where you had

1070
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: to come up to me and talk to my security

1071
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: first before you had to talk. To me i've always

1072
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: been the, guy where EVEN though i made millions and had,

1073
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: SOME success i felt like you just FELT like i was.

1074
00:53:58,920 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 4: Your neighbor you Know what.

1075
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying you FEEL so i get a chance to

1076
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: speak for the PEOPLE because i am.

1077
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 4: THE people i represent.

1078
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: The people i've never separated myself from, the PEOPLE and

1079
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: i don't have to read about it in the paper on,

1080
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: the internet and people tell me exactly what's going on

1081
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: and what, they NEED and i have the direct YEAR

1082
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: and i have the platform to speak. On IT so

1083
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: i was literally just me speaking on what the people

1084
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: have been telling me AND what.

1085
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: I know it makes a lot.

1086
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 2: Of sense let me ask you this transitioning back, into

1087
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: basketball current state Of The, miami heat what do, You, think.

1088
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 4: Oh they've spoiled us like it is. So hard You

1089
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 4: see sacramento fall back to the pack like we've been

1090
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 4: the last twenty years of it's always championship. Or bust

1091
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 4: makes it so a ten and ten team that needs

1092
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 4: to Be Three all stars instead. Of two it can't

1093
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 4: Be The tyler Heroes An all star but Only when

1094
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 4: Bam Isn't they they Need three they used to have

1095
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 4: three guys that you guys, join them and they need

1096
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 4: three guys again to go After the celtics have clearly.

1097
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 4: Passed Them the celtics are just dragging the league because

1098
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: they've evolved everything that you guys did with. Positionless basketball

1099
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 4: they now have a perfect thing that has Surpassed The.

1100
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 4: Miami heat and, you know the team's not as relevant

1101
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 4: as it used, to be which hurts me because they've.

1102
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 4: Been passed and it's not Even because Philadelphia or milwaukee

1103
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 4: have gotten. That good It's because boston has separated itself

1104
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 4: in a way that makes it difficult for anybody in

1105
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 4: the division to be relevant and Makes the knicks have

1106
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 4: the pieces. To CHASE but i will, SAY this i

1107
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 4: have Seen pat riley say before make a wish dinner

1108
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 4: in the morning that no one was going to, be

1109
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 4: traded and then six guys on the team were traded.

1110
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 4: That NIGHT so i don't think he's going to sit

1111
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 4: around approaching eighty years old for very. Much longer you

1112
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 4: guys felt the, furnace like you guys are going to

1113
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 4: be out. Here too but one more game lost and

1114
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 4: some people would have been out. The, door yes like he.

1115
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 4: Is not we, knew, that Okay but i'm Guessing that

1116
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 4: Jimmy and tyler and. Everybody. Knows, now Look pat riley is.

1117
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 4: Late seventies he still runs, that franchise even though it's

1118
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 4: a team of five people that. Run it but everyone's

1119
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 4: trying to win now in. THAT window I CAN'T maybe

1120
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 4: i got. This wrong we're taping, this NOW but i

1121
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 4: Can't See jimmy butler being traded for pieces that don't

1122
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 4: bring back somebody Better Than. Jimmy, BUTLER like i don't

1123
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 4: think they're Trading For, dema, LIKE no i Think they

1124
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 4: any trade they make this year is because we're working

1125
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 4: behind the scenes to. GET whoever I don't i don't

1126
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 4: even know who it. Would be, You know Joe l

1127
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 4: Embiid Or anthony edwards is mad because of how ownership.

1128
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 4: Is going whatever, it is it's not gonna Just be

1129
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 4: we're gonna sit on our hands and do it again

1130
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 4: and try and get in as an eight Seed while

1131
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 4: jimmy's contract.

1132
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: Comes up that's a perfect that's actually a perfect transition

1133
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: Into our, DraftKings segment our partners Of. The DraftKings the

1134
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: way Too Early Eastern conference Finals In western, Conference finals

1135
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 2: champ who you see because we just talked about obviously

1136
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: you know there's gonna, be trades so it's west way.

1137
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: Too early there's gonna be, Some movement there's gonna be

1138
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: some is gonna pivot. And change who? You Have Eastern,

1139
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 2: Conference Finals Western commerce finals?

1140
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 3: Right now why are?

1141
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: You SMILING because i know you're not going to say.

1142
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 4: The heat i'm not going to say. The, HEAT no i,

1143
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 4: WHY yeah i would not say. The Heat the celtics

1144
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 4: would have to. Get injured unless are you so hopeful

1145
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 4: that you are of the belief that the that the

1146
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 4: place That The boston celtics have the one weakness is

1147
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 4: That the miami heat might actually be tougher and and

1148
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 4: and summon whatever they Summoned when bam was blocking them

1149
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 4: at the rim in.

1150
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: THE bubble i would Say this boston is as probably

1151
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: good as they're going to get. Right now and then

1152
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: they are ahead of, the field and they're ahead of.

1153
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: EVERYBODY else i still think that there's some opportunities For

1154
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: the heat to continue to GROW because I like spoe

1155
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: in a seven game series, Against anybody he's going to

1156
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: put you in a position.

1157
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 4: To win and you're going to have.

1158
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: A chance but, right now nobody's going to sit here and,

1159
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: say that, You know boston is not the, best team.

1160
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 4: An you'd be the you'd, be hopeful but this this.

1161
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 4: IS uh i was thinking Mostly out WEST because i

1162
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 4: think Of the east as a foe gun conclusion because

1163
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 4: of how good they, have LOOKED and, i mean it's.

1164
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 4: Just ridiculous everything's double, digit wins they never have double,

1165
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,959
Speaker 4: digit deferences and all they are thirty plus.

1166
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: Games jasin what they have is they have five guys

1167
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: that you have to guard at. All times and that's

1168
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: why they were able to take Advantage of dallas because

1169
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: there was no there Was, no weeks there was no

1170
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: week Link, for luca and they Literally attacked luca on

1171
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: defense every single time until they.

1172
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 4: Broke HIM and i was.

1173
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: Watching the PLAYOFFS and i was saying, to myself why

1174
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: won't teams Just attack luca because teams didn't have five

1175
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: guys that could. Attack them when you Look, at minnesota

1176
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: they didn't have. Five guys You Had anthony.

1177
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 4: Edwards and You.

1178
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: Had cat they was putting him on.

1179
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 4: Go bear moving, him around keep him out of.

1180
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: The fire you, Say That, But, boston yeah put his

1181
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: ass in the fire every. Single time You Got, derrick

1182
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: white You Got, Drew holliday you damn show Ain't Guard.

1183
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 4: Jaylen brown you damn Show Ain't.

1184
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: Guardent tatum oh and by, the way if we're gonna

1185
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: put your ass in, the basket To The Saint rudy gobert,

1186
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: down here so it was nowhere for him.

1187
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 4: TO hide i am it's funny that you bring all of,

1188
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 4: that Up because i'd be curious what you guys think.

1189
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 4: ABOUT this i really wanted To see Denver and boston in.

1190
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 4: THE final i wanted a chantampion to. BE dethroned I

1191
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 4: wanted boston to have to. Earn It and denver has

1192
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 4: the five players that he. Speaks OF and i BELIEVE

1193
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 4: that i can summon the argument and not get too

1194
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 4: much argument from either one, of You that jokic is

1195
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: the best basketball player there has. Ever been i'm putting

1196
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 4: it Ahead, of jordan Ahead. OF lebron, i know just

1197
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 4: because the numerical efficiencies of what he is doing are

1198
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 4: unseen in the history of. The GAME like i understand

1199
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 4: he moves like a giant loaf. OF bread i understand

1200
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 4: that we underestimate the things that he might do because

1201
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 4: athletically it doesn't seem like he's. That gifted But if

1202
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 4: boston Were playing denver in, A series boston would not

1203
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 4: have the.

1204
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 3: Best, Player dan i'm gonna get you a funny Story.

1205
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 3: ABOUT joker. I get i Sign.

1206
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: IN denver i go to training camp two days LATE

1207
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: because i did a buy Out from portland to. Go

1208
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: THERE so i go there and practice is over and

1209
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: the front office guys. Come over so what do you think?

1210
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: YOUR team, I said i don't know who, that fat

1211
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: ugly kid is, right there but he's your. Best player,

1212
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: and like what are you. Talking about he was the

1213
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: fifty well, you know fifty third pick wasn't, even playing

1214
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: and they had all these. Young, guys, no no it's like.

1215
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: The matrix when it hits, his hands the whole game.

1216
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: Just FREEZES and i, Was like i've never seen a

1217
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: young kid do. That before and then they don't really.

1218
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: Play him tell about halfway through the SEASON because i

1219
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: Had that nurkic. Over there they had all, those guys,

1220
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: YOU know i mean like they were they were a

1221
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: young up and coming Team And mike. Malone LIKE but i, was,

1222
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: like yo y'all gonna have to let that dude grow

1223
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: like or get rid, of something you KNOW what.

1224
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 3: I Mean but i'm. WITH you, I mean i don't

1225
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 3: KNOW if i go as Far as.

1226
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 4: I'm trying to go TO your i was going, to

1227
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 4: say but you can you can make them JUST if

1228
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 4: i put the numbers on a piece of paper from

1229
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 4: any season and didn't give you and didn't give you

1230
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 4: the name pick.

1231
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: A play you're not too far.

1232
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 4: Off, though no when you, SAID that i was.

1233
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: Going, to say based on, the numbers HOW can i

1234
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: argue it'd be you put the numbers in front, of

1235
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: me and HOW can i argue it with the production

1236
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: that he's given at the. Center POSITION but, i mean

1237
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: my goat will ALWAYS. Be mj that's just.

1238
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 4: My, go no. THAT'S fine i just did that for.

1239
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 4: You guys got to get better at. This game you

1240
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 4: guys are. Too reasonable if you're trying to have a

1241
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 4: public Opinion of MJ's, the best you, take it take

1242
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 4: it easy there with ms, the best go to limb

1243
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 4: here and give Me The Western western. Conference finals other

1244
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 4: ghosts could. BE wrong i WOULD what i would like,

1245
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 4: to see uh if if If, not denver BECAUSE because

1246
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 4: i really like watching him play and it's a it's

1247
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 4: a level of mastery that's just a bit baffling, To

1248
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 4: ME like I don't i don't Understand what I'm what

1249
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 4: i'm watching when when he's playing Basketball. For DENVER but

1250
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 4: i would also like to See If anthony Edwards Or

1251
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 4: Shay gilders alexander can do any of the things that

1252
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 4: would topple, the ogre topple the guy who's physically much differ.

1253
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 4: Than him give us because the league is changing hands

1254
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 4: now right this is it's it's. Long overdue it's been

1255
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 4: wrestled away from the old guys and now last year

1256
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 4: it's the. Young guys and before they Get, to tatum

1257
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 4: i'd Like to i'd like to see it in the history,

1258
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 4: of basketball when you guys have developed your allegiances to whoever,

1259
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 4: It Is, michael jordan it's because you're seeing the fight

1260
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 4: that has to be to Get. Past detroit like what

1261
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 4: it looks like the story is told to your kids

1262
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 4: about about like through connection on like this IS why

1263
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,959
Speaker 4: I love Mj or MJ's the BEST because i saw

1264
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 4: what he had. To do he didn't go and d

1265
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 4: make a super Team. In miami he just he just,

1266
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 4: kept scaring scoring sixty three until he Finally. Conquered detroit

1267
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 4: it's it's cool to watch, the Stories and i'd like

1268
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 4: the young people to continue to take over the league

1269
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 4: because it makes the league better and more interesting for

1270
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 4: people to develop allegiances with the young people that they've

1271
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 4: had with the. Old people.

1272
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna do a couple fan questions before we let.

1273
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 3: You go is that? Cool?

1274
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: Thing though before we hit the FAN quest i got,

1275
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: one thing and this is something that we. Relate on

1276
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: you Know what, I'm saying and Obviously, FROM afar i

1277
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: felt your PAIN and i understood what you were dealing

1278
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: WITH because i lost. A brother i lost my BROTHER

1279
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: when i was YOUNGER and i was. In college and

1280
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: cancer has also impacted. MY family i lost, MY father

1281
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: i lost my stepmother and my mother all. Cancer stuff

1282
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: just talk about the impact and just. THAT fight i

1283
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: guess cancer, after that after that taps, your family and that,

1284
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: after that, you know obviously you deal, with, that BECAUSE like,

1285
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: I said i lost my brother and this impacted my.

1286
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: Family tremendously but that fight and you you never really healed.

1287
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: From that you Know what. I'm saying my brother one

1288
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: who taught me to. Play basketball so EVERY time i

1289
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: pick up, a basketball my brother come to.

1290
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 4: My, mind yeah so you're gonna make. Me cry but

1291
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 4: it's good work. By you it's a key to. The

1292
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 4: business as, an interview you got to get, in there

1293
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 4: uh and ask the questions that reveal things. To, people,

1294
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 4: so yes it's a sickness that's in me. Every day will.

1295
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 4: Not die but that pain reminds me of the love

1296
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 4: and so that that will also. Not DIE so i

1297
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 4: wake up a little sick because he was my little

1298
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 4: brother and more, than that The small. Cuban FAMILY so

1299
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 4: i raised HIM like i was, his father like my

1300
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 4: father and complicated. Family dynamics but my father had to

1301
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 4: go earn, and work and he's. An exile all it

1302
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 4: is is work you get. To freedom he had. To

1303
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 4: Work so i'm the one raising. My brother so if

1304
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 4: the worst pain a human being can feel is the

1305
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 4: loss of, a child then watching an effervescent spirit, like

1306
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 4: this a colorful artist watching his body deteriorate for, ten

1307
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 4: months like he lived a, giant life dance until his toenails,

1308
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 4: fall off LIKE just i really lived a big life as.

1309
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 4: An artist but the last ten months or the most

1310
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 4: horrible Thing that i've ever seen in, my life and

1311
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 4: the most PAIN that i WILL ever i can ever

1312
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 4: imagine Enduring because i'm, saying goodbye but the greatest BLESSING

1313
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 4: because i got to. SAY goodbye i got to say all,

1314
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 4: the things and so the grief and the sickness and

1315
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 4: the pain isn't soaked in the anger or guilt of

1316
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 4: the stages. OF grief i could just remember him and it,

1317
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 4: can hurt and that love, can hurt but it can

1318
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,959
Speaker 4: be a really.

1319
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: BEAUTIFUL thing i think that was the point in my

1320
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: LIFE where, i, realized like memories are the things that

1321
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: you're going. To have that's, The value that's the true value.

1322
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 4: In life are.

1323
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: The memories you Know what. I'm saying BECAUSE when i

1324
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: sat in those hospital rooms with, my MOTHER when i

1325
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: sat in those hospital rooms with, my FATHER when i

1326
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: sat in there with, my STEPMOTHER when i sat in

1327
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: there with, MY brother i watched all these people deteriorate

1328
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: and die in front. Of me you Know what. I'm

1329
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: saying you don't talk to nobody about it because who.

1330
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 4: Can, RELATE well i don't think people know how tough you,

1331
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 4: just are, like you all that you've had to overcome

1332
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 4: to be who you are, Like that the sociology of

1333
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 4: that is fascinating. To me what you've allowed me To

1334
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 4: see i've been honored to see because you have an,

1335
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 4: uncommon strength because you've seen THINGS that i have not.

1336
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 4: Yet seen this. Was unexpected this is totally new. TO

1337
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 4: me i had never felt A painless i didn't know what.

1338
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 4: This was this is, the first and even with ten

1339
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 4: months of, deathbed warning never saw it coming because it's my, Little,

1340
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 4: brother like he's not, Gonna die he's my.

1341
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: Little brother and THAT'S how i felt about. My father

1342
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: there's no way nobody's gonna tell me that my father

1343
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: was gonna. Beat IT but i say that, to say

1344
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: this IS where i find joy at is, the memories

1345
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: all the memories that, we HAD because i don't want

1346
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: to REMEMBER what i saw in. That, hospital yeah that's

1347
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: NOT how i want to. Remember that so all the

1348
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: memories that we have prior TO those i hold near

1349
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: and dear to, my heart and they was so valuable,

1350
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: to me and that's why at those points in MY

1351
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: life i started to realize the true value. Out here

1352
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: that's what a true value is and making those memories

1353
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: with the people that, you love because you don't know

1354
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: when those days are going.

1355
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 4: To change you're doing it. Right. Now though THIS is

1356
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 4: i will reiterate, to you guys and to, your audience

1357
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 4: the kinship that this is is unusual and it is

1358
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 4: a blessing for them to be able to get to

1359
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 4: see it live and breathe because this kind of brotherhood

1360
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 4: forged through sports over all of the day's. Cultural boundaries, for,

1361
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 4: you guys to connect in a place that is, real

1362
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 4: love like real love sacrificial would do anything. For you,

1363
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 4: brotherhood love it's it's a it is a. Special thing

1364
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 4: the best of these things are. Relationship shows all of

1365
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 4: the all of these things you have a, video component

1366
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 4: but the intimacy of the audio experience where you are

1367
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 4: living in someone's head is why podcasts are as popular as.

1368
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 4: They are and this is a special. Relationship show because

1369
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 4: this is a.

1370
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 2: Special, relationship well we appreciate that now and our audience

1371
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 2: has a couple questions. For you if it's all right

1372
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 2: what's the best advice you ever Received.

1373
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: When pat telling you to change outs every? Ten, years

1374
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: no worry.

1375
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 6: At, home no don't, try that don't try.

1376
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 4: Don't try that ship. AT home, I will i, will

1377
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 4: say in keeping with the conversation that we, just had

1378
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 4: it's not the advice as much as the circumstance of

1379
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 4: it being next to my brother and watching all of

1380
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 4: that happening and having him INSIST that i get to a,

1381
01:08:54,000 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 4: more forgiving gentle place. With myself, tolerating mistakes treating failure

1382
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 4: as learning gentle with myself would allow me to have

1383
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 4: more access to joy. In life and we were just

1384
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 4: talking about. Seventeen years you played seventeen years so, busy, competing,

1385
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 4: fighting worrying in pain that you don't get to. Enjoy

1386
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 4: it and then you look back and, are like man

1387
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 4: that went? By fast WHY didn't i? Enjoy it WHY

1388
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 4: didn't I enjoy it's because everybody's coming for, your money

1389
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 4: everybody's coming for your job you get in twelve minutes

1390
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 4: a night because and so you may not have, enjoyed

1391
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 4: it but now both, of you in this incarnation, of

1392
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,600
Speaker 4: competition are getting a second chance to. Enjoy it with

1393
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 4: the lessons learned and you can share it with, each

1394
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 4: other which would lead TO joy a long, winded answer

1395
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 4: but it's just it's, recent advice but it's the place

1396
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 4: that it comes from more than more than. THE words

1397
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 4: i Felt like i've just if you're watching, someone die you. Gotta,

1398
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 4: live yeah you just.

1399
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 3: Said that we talked, off camera like it.

1400
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 2: Is wild how you you go twenty, years seventeen, You

1401
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 2: play you don't even you, get done and you didn't

1402
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: even have a chance to Really.

1403
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 3: Like you're never in the moment, OF it, i mean always.

1404
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 3: What's next you always didn't like.

1405
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: ME until i STOPPED being i stopped PLAYING when i

1406
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: was over there coaching and, mentoring GUYS but i was

1407
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: still on, the TEAM but i was just. A mentor

1408
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: people started liking ME when i was playing every single night.

1409
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: And competed wody fucking. Liked me nobody liked ME when

1410
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: i was competing. Every NIGHT once i became a MENTOR

1411
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: and i BECAME the OG and i was on that

1412
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: SIDELINE and i wasn't competing, EVERY night i was surprised

1413
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,520
Speaker 1: how many people wo start to have conversations.

1414
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,799
Speaker 4: WITH me i actually really. Liked me how much more joyous?

1415
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 4: Was that like you won one, way, hard, jagged strong

1416
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 4: but the other way has it seems like it would

1417
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 4: have more human fulfillment and if not as, much winning

1418
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 4: oh just. As much just.

1419
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 3: As.

1420
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: Much MAN when i watched, You know bam get, his

1421
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: money AND when I, watched tyler, you know Get six

1422
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: men Of, the YEAR and i remember having Conversations with

1423
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: tyler about coming off the bench, that year and, YOU

1424
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: know i, told him if we win and. Everybody WINS

1425
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: when I watch gabe get Paid And, Caleb Martin, Assan Whiteside,

1426
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 1: MAX ruth, i mean the list goes on, and on

1427
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: the guys that have come in that locker room that have,

1428
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: been Undrafted and i'm just pouring into, these guys you

1429
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: Know what, i'm SAYING because i see so much of

1430
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: myself and. These guys so when those guys get paid

1431
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 1: and those guys, GET rewarded I mean i Feel.

1432
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 4: Like i'm that's funny the way that he's, saying, that,

1433
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 4: though right because so in the business of, the sport there's.

1434
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 4: A heart he's seeing the undrafted guy and you guys

1435
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 4: are both seeing you guys have a special vantage Point

1436
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 4: on nobody actually knows how hard it is to go

1437
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 4: From max strus, to Money From gay vincent. To money

1438
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 4: he keeps mentioning money because everyone's fighting. For, money no

1439
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 4: you get them cheap and you dispose of them so

1440
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 4: you don't have to pay them money and you can

1441
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 4: get the other guys who will work cheaper and get you.

1442
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 4: The money and so like that shit you guys took

1443
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 4: for you to teach those guys and feel the genuine Pride,

1444
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 4: of oh and now they don't have to worry about

1445
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 4: moving from city to city and can take care of

1446
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 4: Kids that i've MET and i love and DON'T worry

1447
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 4: i have to worry about. Their. Future uh it's a

1448
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 4: it's a pretty cool thing to get The fulfillment. I'm

1449
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 4: GETTING so i don't, have kids and AND what i

1450
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 4: get is the FULFILLMENT of i have a the family

1451
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 4: that has grown, around me and what it is that.

1452
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 4: We do we get to work in a space that

1453
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 4: is creatively fun and and enriching.

1454
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 3: For.

1455
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 4: People uh and there there's great joy.

1456
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: In that one more, fan question, let's go have you

1457
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 2: made Up? With shaq, it, says, OH.

1458
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 4: Well, I look i. HOPE not i really That's not

1459
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 4: it's not a BEEF that. I. WANT uh, I mean i.

1460
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 1: Tried to break him a pet of me out THE

1461
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: way i went down to the, OTHER end i, Was

1462
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: like i'm out.

1463
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 4: Of. That YEAH so i have said in, the past

1464
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 4: And maybe eudnnis will co. SIGN this i don't know

1465
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 4: if He respects shack to co sign this too much

1466
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 4: to co. SIGN this i have simply said in, the

1467
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 4: PAST and i think it's the only THING that's i

1468
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 4: think it's the only thing that's gotten him angry that

1469
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 4: for someone who is so excellent at so, Many things

1470
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 4: i'm surprised that him in some spots he's more SENSITIVE

1471
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 4: than i thought he. Would be doesn't make him any

1472
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 4: less human or. Anything else i've just found him sensitive

1473
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 4: to criticism that. Is benign and that's not as someone,

1474
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 4: who's like what are you going to Criticize? About, SHAQ like,

1475
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 4: I mean shaq's a lovely person who's done who everybody seems,

1476
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 4: to like who's done a lot. Of WINNING and i

1477
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 4: don't have any Issue. With shaq but if indeed he

1478
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 4: did get mad at me for saying that he was,

1479
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 4: too sensitive then he is, too SENSITIVE and i get

1480
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 4: to be right about him being. Too, sensitive well wanting

1481
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 4: no quarrel, WITH him.

1482
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: I will tell, you this and this is ONE thing

1483
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: i Knew, about shack his relationship that he has now

1484
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 1: With Steven a smith. AND both i got this Story

1485
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: from SHACK and i actually Asked Steven a smith, about

1486
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: it OR either i got it From. STEVEN an i asked.

1487
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 1: About it it was based on him, being CRITICIZED and

1488
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,440
Speaker 1: i think he had to end up having a conversation

1489
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: With steven a, about it and from that conversation they

1490
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: grew relationship and they end up. Being FRIENDS so i

1491
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:16,919
Speaker 1: say this, to say you still got. A, Chance.

1492
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 4: Oh i've had that happen over the years With Stan.

1493
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 4: Van Gundy Stan van gundy has become a very good

1494
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 4: friend Because Stan van gundy got tired When pat riley

1495
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 4: came down and Replaced Stan. VAN gundy i, was writing we.

1496
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Speaker 3: GOT cut i was.

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Speaker 4: It's a. Good story we'll do it the. Next time

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01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 4: we'll save it for the. Next time it's a. Good,

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01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 4: story Though Stan VAN gundy uh calls me UP because

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01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 4: i keep writing in the newspaper that Even Stan van

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01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 4: gundy would admit That pat riley is a, better coach

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01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 4: and if he came down here to Coach The, Miami,

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01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 4: heat uh it would be better For The. Miami heat

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01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 4: AND after i wrote It.

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01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: To today punching it Is pat, riley like it's not

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01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: a exactly.

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01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 4: An, insult Well but stan called me after the second

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01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 4: or THIRD time i wrote it and, IS like i

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01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 4: would not tell. YOU that i would not tell, anybody

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01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 4: that please stop. Writing that that's not SOMETHING that i.

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01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 4: Would say and so from criticism sometimes comes the respect

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01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 4: and the relationship because, you guys aren't you guys aren't soft.

1513
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 4: To criticism we are media members are soft. To criticisms

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01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 4: IT'S why I say I'm surprised shaq is so sensitive

1515
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 4: to criticism because he so obviously was overwhelming. And EXCELLENT

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01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 4: and i do understand why he would look at any

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01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 4: media member like me and, be like do you UNDERSTAND

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01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 4: that i am more excellent AT what i do for

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01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 4: a living than you will ever be at anything you.

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01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 4: Ever try i'm one of the best in the world.

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01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 4: At BASKETBALL so i think he should be immune from

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01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 4: feeling any sensitivity, To criticism but that would make him

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01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 4: less human than he is as a person who doesn't

1524
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 4: look to anybody like he's from.

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01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: This world he'd be surprised how many things that really

1526
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: can get on our nerves and really strike a nerve.

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01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: With us, you know as much as we have, thick

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01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,000
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01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 1: that that can oot of gets some point under our

1530
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01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: EXPLAIN it i don't know if we explained.

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01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 4: It at the beginning of this by holding that thing

1533
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 4: from twenty five years ago, AGAINST it i didn't use your,

1534
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 4: name listen only looking for slights in, the shadows and

1535
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 4: then you made me have a Problem With. Travis knight he, did.

1536
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 1: Nothing he, Did nothing he did nothing To.

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01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 3: Me, Si, Well dan i'll tell you.

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01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 2: Right, now honestly we appreciate you coming in absolutely.

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01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,200
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Speaker 2: It's fun it's fun to see because we've, you know

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01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 2: you being Interest in miami and seeing what we, went

1542
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 2: through seeing a different aspect. Of it it's fun to

1543
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 2: hear your stories along with our stories to. Come, together,

1544
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 2: so man we really appreciate you coming. In HERE and

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Speaker 2: i wish to be of SERVICE however.

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01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 4: I can i wish to support what you guys, are

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01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 4: doing which is great WHEREVER that. I CAN and i

1548
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 4: tell you from the most sincere places as the high

1549
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 4: school dork wanted to write about sports because he wasn't

1550
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 4: brave enough or good enough to. Do them you guys

1551
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 4: have been two of the best professionals in my CAREER

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01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 4: that i have, dealt with. Interacted with and it is

1553
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 4: genuinely FLATTERING because i know your histories from the State,

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01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:26,440
Speaker 4: of florida back before you were as famous and championed

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01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 4: as you. Are now and it is very flattering that

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01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 4: you guys would, want me want to ask me an

1557
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 4: hour's worth of questions, about Anything because i'm so grateful

1558
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 4: that you spent so many hours answering my question all of.

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01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: These, years well YOU know i wouldn't mind you flattering

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01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: me and calling me on your.

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01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,799
Speaker 4: Chauff hour i've. Requested, it look this IS what i wanted.

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Speaker 4: To Do, And okay i'm going to get in. TROUBLE

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Speaker 4: here I Want bill simmons During the universe During The

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01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 4: Famous Boston bill simmons looked sad in. The stands you

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01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:05,799
Speaker 4: guys beat him and it was. A meme and remember

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01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 4: that we were gonna have you come in and raise

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Speaker 4: the banner in our Offices Of, bill simmons we hadn't

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Speaker 4: made And Everything bill simmons's sad face after you.

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Speaker 1: Beat Him but i'd say something that was a great feeling,

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01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: that night that was a.

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01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 4: GREAT feeling i.

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01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 2: Felt, good well the only the only way we can

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01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 2: leave HERE that i feel is appropriate in honor of

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01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 2: not because A legend poppy is leaving by saying Headhead,

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Speaker 2: And john

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