WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Slowing Down Seattle 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.480 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:07.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.280 Cowboys. 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:16.639 This He's Talking Cowboys straining live. 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:21.200 From the Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:33.040 Streetsidown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda, 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:34.880 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.600 It's a terrific Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.680 Black Rifle Coffee Company. We are live from the Star 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:49.080 in Frisco and the SWBC studios here inside the world 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:53.600 headquarters of the Dallas Cowboys. We've got Isaiah Standback, John Manchoda, 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.240 Nick Harris, I'm Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam in the 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:57.880 back chilling. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.760 As always doing his thing. How are we doing? 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.880 I'm good? How are y'all doing? What's what? 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:03.840 The Seahawks garb? 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:05.040 Where am I from? Kyle? 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:06.640 I mean the Sonics garb? 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:07.280 Where am I from? 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:07.720 See? 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.320 You can already see where I'm leading Harley home? 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:11.480 But always repping? 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:13.280 Mmm? 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.720 Interesting, Yeah, you just I do? 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:17.319 Okay? 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.680 But now boys don't ever play North tex you the 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.840 Cowboys don't play the Seattle Supers, but they play Seattle. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.280 They do not wearing the Seahawks jersey, not yet. 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:30.760 Yeah, you rip the maps. 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.319 Yeah yeah, the Cowboys and the MAVs are. 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.959 That's your hometown team. Good partners, my hometown team. 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.000 It's your hometown team that doesn't exist anymore. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:41.160 Do you have any Seahawks jerseys? 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:43.880 The ones I played his own? 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:48.800 It's all, you know, like a Sewn Alexander Matt Hasselback, 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.680 John take the ball and we're gonna win the game. 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:54.800 If I'm gonna wear a football jersey, it has to 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.280 be like a throwback throwback. It has to be like 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.120 a legend. Yeah, I like, like is a beast to me? 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.320 But it has to be from Seattle. 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.120 Yeah, who would be se Xander? 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.280 Yeah, I mean I like Sean Sean's dope. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.359 Russell Wilson, the Bos. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:15.440 No, No, I'm not. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:22.000 It'll be a Quartez Kennedy, Michael Marco, Michael Saint Clair. 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:23.160 Michael Saint Clair. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:24.680 You've always been a big Lynch guy. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.640 You're sure a big beast, mode, dude, I'm not wearing 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:28.400 Marshawn's jersey. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:29.160 Probably not. 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.200 Are you a believer of the thing where you shouldn't 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.639 wear a jersey of the guy of somebody that's younger 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.520 than you have you ever, I. 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.240 Don't see myself doing that. Like I said, I'm a 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.120 I'm a throwback guy. If if I'm going to wear 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.080 a jersey, it's going to be a Now I'm gonna 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.399 wear I wear my clients jersey, Clients. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:47.240 That I them personally. 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:47.799 That's different. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.040 That's different, right, Clients that I've trained and they've given 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:50.919 me jerseys or whatever. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:52.480 It might be the case. I'll rock that. 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.639 But in terms of going out and purchasing a jersey, yeah, 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.080 it has to be somebody that's legendary. So for like me, 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.720 like this, Sean Camp, like I'll rock Shan Camp all day, 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.639 Sean Shawn Camp, Gary Payton, you know those type of guys. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.880 I could see this answer your question, I'll answer it 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:07.240 for him. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.239 I can totally see this dude in Vegas Friday night 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.280 wearing a Michael Pennock jersey and he's Michael Pennock's definitely, 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:15.480 he's certainly younger than him. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:16.200 I can see him. 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:19.440 Michael Pennix though, so that that's okay. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:23.120 I'm not wearing that, not gonna wear one. So I'll 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.320 be wearing some U dub gear like Steve. 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.320 Would you buy your son? And Michael Pennocks Jersey. Would 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:28.520 he rock that I bought. 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:29.080 Him a hoodie? 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.440 Oh he's got a Hoodieyeah, it's gonna be like fifty degrees. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.160 Now, that's gonna be so fun for you guys, because 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.800 you're getting it's you and the sun going that go 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:36.560 in that direction. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:38.600 Man, wouldn'll be fun. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.320 It's gonna be good. Look even twenty four hours your dogs. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.040 I was gonna say, yeah, in and out. 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.640 Seattle, the Washington in Vegas. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:47.640 How do you feel about that? 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.440 About what the game game? I feel good about it? Yeah, 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:51.800 I do. I think it's gonna be a heck of 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:52.080 a game. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.880 Well, Nick is a big Boonix guy, so that's not no. 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.720 No, I think it's I think it's gonna be one 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:57.880 heck of a game. I truly do. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:59.680 I think both of these, both of those teams are 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:01.880 really good to orgon the University Washington, and you know, 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:02.800 we'll see what happens. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.040 Man, we're in the top four. We can't we can't 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:05.640 fall out now. 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:08.760 I just I don't know how you could show up 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:15.120 to the Cowboys facility wearing not only a Seattle teams. 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.640 Gear, but also the gear that's colored the same as 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:19.479 the organ ducks. You've got yellow and green? 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:20.880 Whoa this week? 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.279 I mean, I feel like it's a double blow. 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:27.640 So I wear a Seattle hat every day. 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.719 Dude, you actually wear Seattle. Wear Seattle gear every singh 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:33.320 green and yellow. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.320 I mean, if you look in the miner, it only 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.080 looks like you're wearing ducks gear. 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:40.520 Be honest with you. I don't see. 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:47.520 The list. Hey, guys like you know, that's what you know. 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.520 That's what Todd Williams asked. It was Cable. Cable asked 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.040 me this morning. He said, did you lose a bet? 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.599 I said, no, Cable, I was born there. 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.560 Did you lose a bet? I was born and raised Seattle. 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.120 You might not remember this, but back our first year 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.240 on this show, twenty twenty, and you and I made 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.520 a bet and I had to wear your jersey. 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.440 Remember that. And I got in trouble, in so much trouble. 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.200 You and I got on to the principals the only. 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.440 Time the Seattle jersey has ever came in the doors 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:16.239 of the Dallas Cowboy. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.479 Yeah, Kyle Loattle Seattle stand back jersey, yep. 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:21.600 And I lost the bet because I thought the Cowboys 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.000 would beat the Seahawks that year and they didn't and 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.280 I had to wear it for a show and. 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.960 I got that Yeah, yeah with a ruler. 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:31.200 Yeah, that one didn't work out. 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:32.200 Well, No, what happened again? 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:36.320 Does anybody know what college? Shack Leonard went to? 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:38.719 South Carolina State Banks? 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.920 There you go, give me an update on everybody wants 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:43.040 to know. 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:44.240 So good to have you back. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.159 Thanks man, I appreciate it. It's good to be here. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:46.960 Yeah. 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.279 So Jerry Jones spoke this morning on the fan about 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.080 the visit with Shack Leonard today. So he is in 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.200 the building right now. That's why I was late, you know, 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.920 I was just gathering into the Shack Leonter. That's exactly 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.320 what it was. He said, they're checking some healthy right 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.040 now with the health team and see where he's at, 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.400 not only for the rest of the year, but you know, 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.040 the foreseeable future. He said, that's what we're doing right 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.680 now as we're speaking, as of thirty minutes ago. And 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.800 then I'll have lunch with him while he's here. So 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.159 it looks like there's a bit of an itinerary for 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:19.000 Leonard today. Diana Rossini reported last night that if a 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:20.960 deal does not get reached with Dallas today that he 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.880 will be headed off to Philadelphia later this week to 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.000 meet with them. So with that in the back of 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.600 everyone's mind, you almost want to look for as much 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.400 silver lining as possible on the visit today, especially when 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.200 it comes to the health things. I know he's coming 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.200 off of two back surgeries from last year, and that 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.920 obviously worries somebody, especially whenever you look at the reason 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.240 why there's a hole in the linebacker core right now 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.800 with Layton van Derush and the stacked neck injuries that 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.680 he's had, and wanting to be able to stay confident 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.560 and stay true to that. So, yeah, it's interesting. It's 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.200 not something that I had on my BINGO card if 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:55.960 you had asked me two weeks ago as far as 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.000 Darius Leonard goes. But he's on campus today and we'll 0:06:59.000 --> 0:06:59.960 see where it goes from here. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:01.160 I have questions. 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.440 Question number one, why did they release him? 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:06.440 A number of things. 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.239 I think. I think personally it is money. 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.560 Well, I think when it comes to his health situation 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.480 last year, what he was able to produce on the 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.360 field last year, what they're trying to do in Indianapolis 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.000 right now, it doesn't make sense to pay him what 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.040 they were paying him. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.640 And see how do we put this. 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:26.440 Some organizations are run differently than others, and. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:27.960 Some gms are on Twitter more than others. 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.360 It's hard for me not to think of how everything 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.480 went down before the scenes started with Jonathan Taylor, I mean, 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.680 the factor that all in and then see some other 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.760 things tweeted out, which I enjoy from the tweeting perspective, 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.440 but I don't know if that's exactly what you want. 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:44.920 Running the team situation. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.680 So I understand where you're coming from, because I certainly 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.680 think of that whenever a players let go. But I 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:55.120 have preconceived thoughts really about every single organization in my head, 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.960 and when certain one, certain ones let players go, you're 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.200 just like, no, no, no, kick the tires on that guy. 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:00.400 No. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.440 And then there's other organizations with him, You're like, yeah, 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:04.080 he's probably good. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:05.360 You probably don't you probably don't. 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:05.480 Need to do it. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.280 Yeah, So I mean, yeah, I mean, I know that 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.800 there is a lot of issues well ownership in general 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.080 over there in the Colts. A lot of players don't 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.840 want to necessarily be in Indianapolis for a number of 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.080 reasons regarding the ownership and management. So I but I 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:20.640 do know that, you know, obviously, coming off those two 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.440 back surgeries. That's something that is apparent. I would imagine 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.040 he spends half his visit getting MRIs today if I 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.440 was to guess if if I was a betting man. 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:30.560 But then so I don't have issues with those things, right. 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.960 You think about like Marcus Peters, right, like obviously you 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.560 he just got released, and I think about that, and 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.200 I'm like, okay, well, he's had an issue with his 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:43.040 character pretty much his entire career, so when you when 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.400 you see him get released, you automatically go to, Okay, 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:46.040 what's the issues? 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:46.280 Right? 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.640 Especially with uh with Peers you know now the coach 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:51.400 and things like that. It's like, what the Heck's going on? 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.480 Like why are you now getting released by a player? 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.200 Doesn't make sense? So that I have questions, But in 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.000 this I have questions in regards to just his health. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:08:59.680 So obviously they'll take care of that. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.160 But then I asked, look at it from a perspective 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.160 of if he doesn't get a deal with Dallas today 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.080 and then he's off to Philly, how does he go 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.800 about choosing which team he goes to first? And pretty 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.600 much if he's ready to put it out there saying, hey, 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.920 I want to go to Dallas first. If Dallas doesn't work, 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.840 then I'll pretty much signed with Philly. That's what it 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.440 sounds like. How does he go about making that decision? 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.640 So does it Dallas's preferred choice over Philly or like 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:22.040 how does that? 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:22.440 You know what I mean? 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.160 Like, I think there's a lot of assumptions in there. 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.720 It could be just a situation where Dallas reached out 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:28.760 first to the agent. Like if I was going through 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.360 this process personally, it's whoever reached out to me first, 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.199 whoever showed me the most love. And it kind of 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.360 goes back to like recruiting even you know, it's like, Okay, 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.120 they're showing me the most love, let me go there 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.440 first and give them the first opportunity. That's a good place. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.319 They need a starting linebacker. Let's go there and figure 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:43.959 that one out. And if it doesn't work, then let's 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.080 go to this other contender who's also really good and 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:47.360 could use a starting linebacker. 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.200 So I think it's kind of goes both ways. 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.920 Well, I think there's a couple different elements there. Too. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:52.760 Is the fact that. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.959 There was a bit you talked about off the field 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.960 or excuse me, helth wise, that was one. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:00.160 Of your concerns. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.240 There's a little bit of a concern in Indianapolis with 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.600 a bit of a degradation of their relationship because they 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.560 would take him off the field in passing downs. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.360 He was mostly a run stopper. 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.440 That was what he was built in the dew which 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.800 year Dallas could certainly use a run stopper. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.160 They've done a good job this year of defending the run, 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.679 much better than they have the last two or three years. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.200 However, they're still not perfect in that category, and they 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.840 could be better in that category. He would see playing 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.319 time here where he didn't see in Indianapolis and where 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.280 he might not see in Philadelphia. So maybe it's the 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.800 best fit for him. Plus it makes him, at least 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.480 from a competitive standpoint, able to make a run. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:38.720 That's what he's also looking at. 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.640 He's not going to go to a team like Indianapolis 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:42.880 that's not competing and not. 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:47.200 In for a title. He's he wants to go try 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:47.959 and win a ring. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.280 Let me ask you this question, between those two players 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.760 that I just brought up, if you were to sign 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:53.120 one of. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:54.959 Them, right, you're talking about Leonard and Peter. 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:59.480 Peter, right, would you sign the guy who hasn't you 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.040 have a questions about his health because of the back surgeries. 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.040 Would you sign a guy who has questions about his character? 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:06.600 I would sign be healthy. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.080 When I do the checks, can I can? I I 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:10.600 mean can he play? Is he healthy enough to? 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:12.240 Yeah? 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:13.400 Well, I'm only doing for the rest of the I'm 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:14.960 taking check learrya same. 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.960 I'm also interested in the whole. I mean, Gus Bradley, 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:22.559 Dan Quinn, they work together. I would think that if 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.440 for nothing else, Dan's going to have some good knowledge 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.319 of how he use him And where is that right now? 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:34.040 With the way that things have gone in this organization. 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:38.280 John mentioned it earlier of certain organizations are run certain ways. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:42.000 With the way that things have gone. If Dallas does 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.480 not sign him and he signs with Philly, Isaiah, what would. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:49.560 Your reaction be. I wouldn't I would not appreciate that. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.920 Yeah, I think that would be a problem for Dallas 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.160 and anybody else. I mean, Philadelphia's already really freaking good, 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:58.959 and everybody knows that, there's no question about it. You 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.599 don't have to like them, but you better respect them. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:05.199 They have historically, When I say historically, go back the 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.920 last five years. Their front office has done a heck 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.600 of a job of adding to their roster, just a 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.800 magnificent job of finding ways to add talent to their roster. 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:18.319 If Dallas doesn't sign Winner today, it's almost unless it's 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:19.000 health related. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.520 If it's that's the thing, we will we won't know. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:22.559 We won't know, right but. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.560 Until the reports start surfacing, maybe down the road. 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.400 But Philly would grab him up in a heartbeat, and 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.480 that would be a problem because those guys already have 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.160 a monstrous front seven. 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.520 And we've already seen Philly take a chance on guys 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.319 with help. I mean, Nikobe Dean was he was the 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.720 rock of the draft that continued to fall because of 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.640 his health problems at the linebacker position, and it took 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:44.080 a chance on. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.240 And it's okay taking veterans at this point in time 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.800 because now their contracts aren't guaranteed. You signed them after 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:51.840 the first game of the season, so you're unless you're 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:53.920 giving them a new contract or giving them a bunch 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.320 of guaranteed money up front, is very low risk for 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.160 you at this point in time. So most organizations will 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.079 take a they'll a flyer on it and say hey, 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:02.560 a couple weeks into it, oh, it didn't work out 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.880 all right. See you later, right, and they're out of 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.400 it for whatever it is it cost him for those 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.360 couple of weeks of that rental. But right now I 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.160 can see teams jumping all over this, and hopefully Dallas 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.280 if everything checks out, hopefully they're a team that does it. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.319 Okay, from what you said, I would withhold judgment if 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.520 that's what happened. If he left here it went to Philly, Okay, 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.559 I understand. Like, believe me, I'm totally on board with 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.800 the Eagles have been doing. Like I think that they've 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.599 been outstanding. I'm surprised that they're a two and a 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.480 half three point dog to the Niners this week at home, 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.520 I think, really, yeah, I think that they're rolling. I 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.640 think they're in a good shape. The only more surprising 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.679 spread this week is clearly that the Oregon nine and 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:38.360 a half over washing. 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.200 It's crazy. 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.080 It blows my mind. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:47.040 But you do need to withhold judgment because let's not 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.640 sit there and say that they let him leave and 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.160 then he goes to Philly. Everybody will lose their mind 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.760 because these are the two biggest talking fan base, especially 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.440 when it comes to social media. But if he gets 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.520 to Philly and doesn't really have much of an impact 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.040 that'll go to the wayside. People will forget about how 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:03.960 it was done. But I mean, initially it'll look bad 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:05.720 because it just seems like the Eagles are getting But 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:07.600 I would want to see what he can do with 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.960 the Eagles before I would go, oh, the Cowboys mess 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:10.720 up on this one. 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:10.760 You know. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.520 I mean that's the reason he's here today to look 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.760 at you know, whether it's medical, whatever it is in 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:15.200 the background. 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:16.760 I mean, you have to withhold judgment. 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.120 I know nobody will, but I'm saying that, like that is, 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:20.200 there could be more to it. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.080 That's always my thing with the draft process. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:23.880 You know, everybody wants to put together a list of 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.680 their top players stuff like that, and ninety nine point 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.480 nine percent of people that are doing that don't know 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.520 the medical, don't know off the field, don't do all 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.840 don't know all this stuff that these organizations spend millions 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.000 of dollars on to look into these prospects, and all 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:37.480 it would take to a lot of people that put 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.440 lists together is just one little thing where you're just like, yeah, no, 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.800 that that need's not going to make it past one season. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.840 You're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, no, no, he's not he's 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.640 not on my first round board anymore. It's like, yeah, 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.040 but you're not going to know that when you can 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:49.120 just watch your college tape. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:49.520 You don't know. 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.840 There's Washington, Yeah, there's like little things like that, or 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.440 players where they're just like, this guy is a locker 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.360 room cancer. He will ruin everything, and you're just like, yeah, 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.280 that guy's really talented, and you're just like, go ahead, 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:01.240 draft and see what happens. 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:02.600 Nobody went to his birthday party? 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.840 Yeah, exactly, exactly, And if you know anything about the draft, 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:07.360 you watch Draft Day. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:08.960 Yeah. 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.080 I think the expectation of the building today has to 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:12.440 be if he does, if he walks out of here 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.160 without a contract that he's going to sign with Philly. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.120 It might not happen, but that has to be the. 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.520 Expectation, and you have to be comfortable with that based 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.880 on the knowledge that you're able to acquire today. That's 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.600 kind of the double sided thing that you have to 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.760 take into account whenever you're writing all the notes, is Okay, 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.320 do we want to sign him? If the answer is no, 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:29.840 are we comfortable with him signing with Philly? And does 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:31.000 that force you to sign him? 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.360 That's a question that's that's what I was about to 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.520 ask is is there a little bit of gamesmanship from 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:36.360 Philadelphia here? 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:37.120 Same question? 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:38.520 Yeah, you know what question. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:40.800 Just by the way, if you don't want to sign 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.480 with Dallas, we're here for you, that's probably what happened. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.040 Come on in, not even we're here for you, will 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.160 be your leverage exactly, don't even want you. But if 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:50.880 you want to tell them that we're out here, if 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.200 that helps you, we we're just fine with that. 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.040 There is a financial part to this as well. 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.920 This is this is a competitive free agency, which is 0:15:58.000 --> 0:15:59.800 rare to see in the middle of a season. Like, yes, 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:05.120 it's an off season type of free agency. So whenever 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:10.360