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Speaker 2: As always doing his thing. How are we doing?
Speaker 4: I'm good? How are y'all doing? What's what?
Speaker 2: The Seahawks garb?
Speaker 4: Where am I from? Kyle?
Speaker 2: I mean the Sonics garb?
Speaker 4: Where am I from?
Speaker 5: See?
Speaker 2: You can already see where I'm leading Harley home?
Speaker 4: But always repping?
Speaker 6: Mmm?
Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, you just I do?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: But now boys don't ever play North tex you the
Speaker 3: Cowboys don't play the Seattle Supers, but they play Seattle.
Speaker 3: They do not wearing the Seahawks jersey, not yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you rip the maps.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the Cowboys and the MAVs are.
Speaker 4: That's your hometown team. Good partners, my hometown team.
Speaker 2: It's your hometown team that doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 6: Do you have any Seahawks jerseys?
Speaker 4: The ones I played his own?
Speaker 5: It's all, you know, like a Sewn Alexander Matt Hasselback,
Speaker 5: John take the ball and we're gonna win the game.
Speaker 7: If I'm gonna wear a football jersey, it has to
Speaker 7: be like a throwback throwback. It has to be like
Speaker 7: a legend. Yeah, I like, like is a beast to me?
Speaker 7: But it has to be from Seattle.
Speaker 6: Yeah, who would be se Xander?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I like Sean Sean's dope.
Speaker 6: Russell Wilson, the Bos.
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not.
Speaker 7: It'll be a Quartez Kennedy, Michael Marco, Michael Saint Clair.
Speaker 4: Michael Saint Clair.
Speaker 2: You've always been a big Lynch guy.
Speaker 3: You're sure a big beast, mode, dude, I'm not wearing
Speaker 3: Marshawn's jersey.
Speaker 2: Probably not.
Speaker 3: Are you a believer of the thing where you shouldn't
Speaker 3: wear a jersey of the guy of somebody that's younger
Speaker 3: than you have you ever, I.
Speaker 7: Don't see myself doing that. Like I said, I'm a
Speaker 7: I'm a throwback guy. If if I'm going to wear
Speaker 7: a jersey, it's going to be a Now I'm gonna
Speaker 7: wear I wear my clients jersey, Clients.
Speaker 2: That I them personally.
Speaker 4: That's different.
Speaker 7: That's different, right, Clients that I've trained and they've given
Speaker 7: me jerseys or whatever.
Speaker 4: It might be the case. I'll rock that.
Speaker 7: But in terms of going out and purchasing a jersey, yeah,
Speaker 7: it has to be somebody that's legendary. So for like me,
Speaker 7: like this, Sean Camp, like I'll rock Shan Camp all day,
Speaker 7: Sean Shawn Camp, Gary Payton, you know those type of guys.
Speaker 6: I could see this answer your question, I'll answer it
Speaker 6: for him.
Speaker 5: I can totally see this dude in Vegas Friday night
Speaker 5: wearing a Michael Pennock jersey and he's Michael Pennock's definitely,
Speaker 5: he's certainly younger than him.
Speaker 6: I can see him.
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix though, so that that's okay.
Speaker 4: I'm not wearing that, not gonna wear one. So I'll
Speaker 4: be wearing some U dub gear like Steve.
Speaker 3: Would you buy your son? And Michael Pennocks Jersey. Would
Speaker 3: he rock that I bought.
Speaker 4: Him a hoodie?
Speaker 2: Oh he's got a Hoodieyeah, it's gonna be like fifty degrees.
Speaker 3: Now, that's gonna be so fun for you guys, because
Speaker 3: you're getting it's you and the sun going that go
Speaker 3: in that direction.
Speaker 2: Man, wouldn'll be fun.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be good. Look even twenty four hours your dogs.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, yeah, in and out.
Speaker 2: Seattle, the Washington in Vegas.
Speaker 8: How do you feel about that?
Speaker 4: About what the game game? I feel good about it? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I do. I think it's gonna be a heck of
Speaker 4: a game.
Speaker 2: Well, Nick is a big Boonix guy, so that's not no.
Speaker 4: No, I think it's I think it's gonna be one
Speaker 4: heck of a game. I truly do.
Speaker 7: I think both of these, both of those teams are
Speaker 7: really good to orgon the University Washington, and you know,
Speaker 7: we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: Man, we're in the top four. We can't we can't
Speaker 4: fall out now.
Speaker 3: I just I don't know how you could show up
Speaker 3: to the Cowboys facility wearing not only a Seattle teams.
Speaker 2: Gear, but also the gear that's colored the same as
Speaker 2: the organ ducks. You've got yellow and green?
Speaker 4: Whoa this week?
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like it's a double blow.
Speaker 7: So I wear a Seattle hat every day.
Speaker 2: Dude, you actually wear Seattle. Wear Seattle gear every singh
Speaker 2: green and yellow.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you look in the miner, it only
Speaker 3: looks like you're wearing ducks gear.
Speaker 2: Be honest with you. I don't see.
Speaker 7: The list. Hey, guys like you know, that's what you know.
Speaker 7: That's what Todd Williams asked. It was Cable. Cable asked
Speaker 7: me this morning. He said, did you lose a bet?
Speaker 7: I said, no, Cable, I was born there.
Speaker 4: Did you lose a bet? I was born and raised Seattle.
Speaker 3: You might not remember this, but back our first year
Speaker 3: on this show, twenty twenty, and you and I made
Speaker 3: a bet and I had to wear your jersey.
Speaker 4: Remember that. And I got in trouble, in so much trouble.
Speaker 2: You and I got on to the principals the only.
Speaker 7: Time the Seattle jersey has ever came in the doors
Speaker 7: of the Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyle Loattle Seattle stand back jersey, yep.
Speaker 3: And I lost the bet because I thought the Cowboys
Speaker 3: would beat the Seahawks that year and they didn't and
Speaker 3: I had to wear it for a show and.
Speaker 4: I got that Yeah, yeah with a ruler.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one didn't work out.
Speaker 4: Well, No, what happened again?
Speaker 2: Does anybody know what college? Shack Leonard went to?
Speaker 8: South Carolina State Banks?
Speaker 2: There you go, give me an update on everybody wants
Speaker 2: to know.
Speaker 4: So good to have you back.
Speaker 8: Thanks man, I appreciate it. It's good to be here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So Jerry Jones spoke this morning on the fan about
Speaker 9: the visit with Shack Leonard today. So he is in
Speaker 9: the building right now. That's why I was late, you know,
Speaker 9: I was just gathering into the Shack Leonter. That's exactly
Speaker 9: what it was. He said, they're checking some healthy right
Speaker 9: now with the health team and see where he's at,
Speaker 9: not only for the rest of the year, but you know,
Speaker 9: the foreseeable future. He said, that's what we're doing right
Speaker 9: now as we're speaking, as of thirty minutes ago. And
Speaker 9: then I'll have lunch with him while he's here. So
Speaker 9: it looks like there's a bit of an itinerary for
Speaker 9: Leonard today. Diana Rossini reported last night that if a
Speaker 9: deal does not get reached with Dallas today that he
Speaker 9: will be headed off to Philadelphia later this week to
Speaker 9: meet with them. So with that in the back of
Speaker 9: everyone's mind, you almost want to look for as much
Speaker 9: silver lining as possible on the visit today, especially when
Speaker 9: it comes to the health things. I know he's coming
Speaker 9: off of two back surgeries from last year, and that
Speaker 9: obviously worries somebody, especially whenever you look at the reason
Speaker 9: why there's a hole in the linebacker core right now
Speaker 9: with Layton van Derush and the stacked neck injuries that
Speaker 9: he's had, and wanting to be able to stay confident
Speaker 9: and stay true to that. So, yeah, it's interesting. It's
Speaker 9: not something that I had on my BINGO card if
Speaker 9: you had asked me two weeks ago as far as
Speaker 9: Darius Leonard goes. But he's on campus today and we'll
Speaker 9: see where it goes from here.
Speaker 4: I have questions.
Speaker 7: Question number one, why did they release him?
Speaker 2: A number of things.
Speaker 8: I think. I think personally it is money.
Speaker 9: Well, I think when it comes to his health situation
Speaker 9: last year, what he was able to produce on the
Speaker 9: field last year, what they're trying to do in Indianapolis
Speaker 9: right now, it doesn't make sense to pay him what
Speaker 9: they were paying him.
Speaker 6: And see how do we put this.
Speaker 5: Some organizations are run differently than others, and.
Speaker 8: Some gms are on Twitter more than others.
Speaker 5: It's hard for me not to think of how everything
Speaker 5: went down before the scenes started with Jonathan Taylor, I mean,
Speaker 5: the factor that all in and then see some other
Speaker 5: things tweeted out, which I enjoy from the tweeting perspective,
Speaker 5: but I don't know if that's exactly what you want.
Speaker 6: Running the team situation.
Speaker 5: So I understand where you're coming from, because I certainly
Speaker 5: think of that whenever a players let go. But I
Speaker 5: have preconceived thoughts really about every single organization in my head,
Speaker 5: and when certain one, certain ones let players go, you're
Speaker 5: just like, no, no, no, kick the tires on that guy.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 5: And then there's other organizations with him, You're like, yeah,
Speaker 5: he's probably good.
Speaker 6: You probably don't you probably don't.
Speaker 4: Need to do it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I mean, yeah, I mean, I know that
Speaker 7: there is a lot of issues well ownership in general
Speaker 7: over there in the Colts. A lot of players don't
Speaker 7: want to necessarily be in Indianapolis for a number of
Speaker 7: reasons regarding the ownership and management. So I but I
Speaker 7: do know that, you know, obviously, coming off those two
Speaker 7: back surgeries. That's something that is apparent. I would imagine
Speaker 7: he spends half his visit getting MRIs today if I
Speaker 7: was to guess if if I was a betting man.
Speaker 7: But then so I don't have issues with those things, right.
Speaker 7: You think about like Marcus Peters, right, like obviously you
Speaker 7: he just got released, and I think about that, and
Speaker 7: I'm like, okay, well, he's had an issue with his
Speaker 7: character pretty much his entire career, so when you when
Speaker 7: you see him get released, you automatically go to, Okay,
Speaker 7: what's the issues?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 7: Especially with uh with Peers you know now the coach
Speaker 7: and things like that. It's like, what the Heck's going on?
Speaker 7: Like why are you now getting released by a player?
Speaker 7: Doesn't make sense? So that I have questions, But in
Speaker 7: this I have questions in regards to just his health.
Speaker 4: So obviously they'll take care of that.
Speaker 7: But then I asked, look at it from a perspective
Speaker 7: of if he doesn't get a deal with Dallas today
Speaker 7: and then he's off to Philly, how does he go
Speaker 7: about choosing which team he goes to first? And pretty
Speaker 7: much if he's ready to put it out there saying, hey,
Speaker 7: I want to go to Dallas first. If Dallas doesn't work,
Speaker 7: then I'll pretty much signed with Philly. That's what it
Speaker 7: sounds like. How does he go about making that decision?
Speaker 7: So does it Dallas's preferred choice over Philly or like
Speaker 7: how does that?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 8: Like, I think there's a lot of assumptions in there.
Speaker 9: It could be just a situation where Dallas reached out
Speaker 9: first to the agent. Like if I was going through
Speaker 9: this process personally, it's whoever reached out to me first,
Speaker 9: whoever showed me the most love. And it kind of
Speaker 9: goes back to like recruiting even you know, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 9: they're showing me the most love, let me go there
Speaker 9: first and give them the first opportunity. That's a good place.
Speaker 9: They need a starting linebacker. Let's go there and figure
Speaker 9: that one out. And if it doesn't work, then let's
Speaker 9: go to this other contender who's also really good and
Speaker 9: could use a starting linebacker.
Speaker 8: So I think it's kind of goes both ways.
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a couple different elements there. Too.
Speaker 4: Is the fact that.
Speaker 3: There was a bit you talked about off the field
Speaker 3: or excuse me, helth wise, that was one.
Speaker 2: Of your concerns.
Speaker 3: There's a little bit of a concern in Indianapolis with
Speaker 3: a bit of a degradation of their relationship because they
Speaker 3: would take him off the field in passing downs.
Speaker 2: He was mostly a run stopper.
Speaker 3: That was what he was built in the dew which
Speaker 3: year Dallas could certainly use a run stopper.
Speaker 2: They've done a good job this year of defending the run,
Speaker 2: much better than they have the last two or three years.
Speaker 3: However, they're still not perfect in that category, and they
Speaker 3: could be better in that category. He would see playing
Speaker 3: time here where he didn't see in Indianapolis and where
Speaker 3: he might not see in Philadelphia. So maybe it's the
Speaker 3: best fit for him. Plus it makes him, at least
Speaker 3: from a competitive standpoint, able to make a run.
Speaker 2: That's what he's also looking at.
Speaker 3: He's not going to go to a team like Indianapolis
Speaker 3: that's not competing and not.
Speaker 2: In for a title. He's he wants to go try
Speaker 2: and win a ring.
Speaker 7: Let me ask you this question, between those two players
Speaker 7: that I just brought up, if you were to sign
Speaker 7: one of.
Speaker 4: Them, right, you're talking about Leonard and Peter.
Speaker 7: Peter, right, would you sign the guy who hasn't you
Speaker 7: have a questions about his health because of the back surgeries.
Speaker 4: Would you sign a guy who has questions about his character?
Speaker 2: I would sign be healthy.
Speaker 5: When I do the checks, can I can? I I
Speaker 5: mean can he play? Is he healthy enough to?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Well, I'm only doing for the rest of the I'm
Speaker 6: taking check learrya same.
Speaker 5: I'm also interested in the whole. I mean, Gus Bradley,
Speaker 5: Dan Quinn, they work together. I would think that if
Speaker 5: for nothing else, Dan's going to have some good knowledge
Speaker 5: of how he use him And where is that right now?
Speaker 3: With the way that things have gone in this organization.
Speaker 3: John mentioned it earlier of certain organizations are run certain ways.
Speaker 3: With the way that things have gone. If Dallas does
Speaker 3: not sign him and he signs with Philly, Isaiah, what would.
Speaker 4: Your reaction be. I wouldn't I would not appreciate that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that would be a problem for Dallas
Speaker 7: and anybody else. I mean, Philadelphia's already really freaking good,
Speaker 7: and everybody knows that, there's no question about it. You
Speaker 7: don't have to like them, but you better respect them.
Speaker 7: They have historically, When I say historically, go back the
Speaker 7: last five years. Their front office has done a heck
Speaker 7: of a job of adding to their roster, just a
Speaker 7: magnificent job of finding ways to add talent to their roster.
Speaker 7: If Dallas doesn't sign Winner today, it's almost unless it's
Speaker 7: health related.
Speaker 2: If it's that's the thing, we will we won't know.
Speaker 4: We won't know, right but.
Speaker 2: Until the reports start surfacing, maybe down the road.
Speaker 7: But Philly would grab him up in a heartbeat, and
Speaker 7: that would be a problem because those guys already have
Speaker 7: a monstrous front seven.
Speaker 3: And we've already seen Philly take a chance on guys
Speaker 3: with help. I mean, Nikobe Dean was he was the
Speaker 3: rock of the draft that continued to fall because of
Speaker 3: his health problems at the linebacker position, and it took
Speaker 3: a chance on.
Speaker 7: And it's okay taking veterans at this point in time
Speaker 7: because now their contracts aren't guaranteed. You signed them after
Speaker 7: the first game of the season, so you're unless you're
Speaker 7: giving them a new contract or giving them a bunch
Speaker 7: of guaranteed money up front, is very low risk for
Speaker 7: you at this point in time. So most organizations will
Speaker 7: take a they'll a flyer on it and say hey,
Speaker 7: a couple weeks into it, oh, it didn't work out
Speaker 7: all right. See you later, right, and they're out of
Speaker 7: it for whatever it is it cost him for those
Speaker 7: couple of weeks of that rental. But right now I
Speaker 7: can see teams jumping all over this, and hopefully Dallas
Speaker 7: if everything checks out, hopefully they're a team that does it.
Speaker 5: Okay, from what you said, I would withhold judgment if
Speaker 5: that's what happened. If he left here it went to Philly, Okay,
Speaker 5: I understand. Like, believe me, I'm totally on board with
Speaker 5: the Eagles have been doing. Like I think that they've
Speaker 5: been outstanding. I'm surprised that they're a two and a
Speaker 5: half three point dog to the Niners this week at home,
Speaker 5: I think, really, yeah, I think that they're rolling. I
Speaker 5: think they're in a good shape. The only more surprising
Speaker 5: spread this week is clearly that the Oregon nine and
Speaker 5: a half over washing.
Speaker 6: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: It blows my mind.
Speaker 5: But you do need to withhold judgment because let's not
Speaker 5: sit there and say that they let him leave and
Speaker 5: then he goes to Philly. Everybody will lose their mind
Speaker 5: because these are the two biggest talking fan base, especially
Speaker 5: when it comes to social media. But if he gets
Speaker 5: to Philly and doesn't really have much of an impact
Speaker 5: that'll go to the wayside. People will forget about how
Speaker 5: it was done. But I mean, initially it'll look bad
Speaker 5: because it just seems like the Eagles are getting But
Speaker 5: I would want to see what he can do with
Speaker 5: the Eagles before I would go, oh, the Cowboys mess
Speaker 5: up on this one.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 5: I mean that's the reason he's here today to look
Speaker 5: at you know, whether it's medical, whatever it is in
Speaker 5: the background.
Speaker 6: I mean, you have to withhold judgment.
Speaker 5: I know nobody will, but I'm saying that, like that is,
Speaker 5: there could be more to it.
Speaker 6: That's always my thing with the draft process.
Speaker 5: You know, everybody wants to put together a list of
Speaker 5: their top players stuff like that, and ninety nine point
Speaker 5: nine percent of people that are doing that don't know
Speaker 5: the medical, don't know off the field, don't do all
Speaker 5: don't know all this stuff that these organizations spend millions
Speaker 5: of dollars on to look into these prospects, and all
Speaker 5: it would take to a lot of people that put
Speaker 5: lists together is just one little thing where you're just like, yeah, no,
Speaker 5: that that need's not going to make it past one season.
Speaker 5: You're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, no, no, he's not he's
Speaker 5: not on my first round board anymore. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: but you're not going to know that when you can
Speaker 5: just watch your college tape.
Speaker 8: You don't know.
Speaker 5: There's Washington, Yeah, there's like little things like that, or
Speaker 5: players where they're just like, this guy is a locker
Speaker 5: room cancer. He will ruin everything, and you're just like, yeah,
Speaker 5: that guy's really talented, and you're just like, go ahead,
Speaker 5: draft and see what happens.
Speaker 2: Nobody went to his birthday party?
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, exactly, And if you know anything about the draft,
Speaker 5: you watch Draft Day.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I think the expectation of the building today has to
Speaker 9: be if he does, if he walks out of here
Speaker 9: without a contract that he's going to sign with Philly.
Speaker 8: It might not happen, but that has to be the.
Speaker 9: Expectation, and you have to be comfortable with that based
Speaker 9: on the knowledge that you're able to acquire today. That's
Speaker 9: kind of the double sided thing that you have to
Speaker 9: take into account whenever you're writing all the notes, is Okay,
Speaker 9: do we want to sign him? If the answer is no,
Speaker 9: are we comfortable with him signing with Philly? And does
Speaker 9: that force you to sign him?
Speaker 3: That's a question that's that's what I was about to
Speaker 3: ask is is there a little bit of gamesmanship from
Speaker 3: Philadelphia here?
Speaker 4: Same question?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what question.
Speaker 3: Just by the way, if you don't want to sign
Speaker 3: with Dallas, we're here for you, that's probably what happened.
Speaker 5: Come on in, not even we're here for you, will
Speaker 5: be your leverage exactly, don't even want you. But if
Speaker 5: you want to tell them that we're out here, if
Speaker 5: that helps you, we we're just fine with that.
Speaker 8: There is a financial part to this as well.
Speaker 9: This is this is a competitive free agency, which is
Speaker 9: rare to see in the middle of a season. Like, yes,
Speaker 9: it's an off season type of free agency. So whenever
Speaker 9: he got released, whenever he got released last week, first
Speaker 9: thing I said was, I think this is going to
Speaker 9: be really difficult for Dallas to just.
Speaker 8: Slam on, if that makes sense, like staying the door on.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And I still kind of feel that way, even though
Speaker 9: there is a little bit more confidence in him coming
Speaker 9: in today and him not having anything scheduled past today.
Speaker 9: I know the Eagles are trying to get something scheduled,
Speaker 9: but it's not official. There's only a little bit of
Speaker 9: confidence I still have in that. But I still think
Speaker 9: it's going to be competitive. At the end of the day,
Speaker 9: I think he's going to have more than one offer
Speaker 9: on the table.
Speaker 4: You think Dallas has the finances to sign.
Speaker 9: Him, Yes, this season, Yes, the future, that's where things
Speaker 9: get murky.
Speaker 8: But I think you worry about that down the road.
Speaker 4: I don't think he signs one year.
Speaker 2: You think it'd be a two year deal.
Speaker 5: I mean, at least, why wouldn't you want to get
Speaker 5: to free agency? Say that again, why wouldn't you want
Speaker 5: to get to free agency?
Speaker 2: If he comes in and plays well, play well.
Speaker 6: For one year and get free agency next year.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's something that he wants to do.
Speaker 4: I don't think he would want to risk.
Speaker 9: That with what he's coming off of health wise. It
Speaker 9: makes sense. But and you also wonder from his perspective,
Speaker 9: why was he okay being released from Indianapolis Because it
Speaker 9: looked like a mutual split, Like it didn't look like
Speaker 9: he was, you know, middle fingering out the door. You
Speaker 9: know it was he was at their game on Sunday
Speaker 9: in the suite. You know, they don't give a guy
Speaker 9: a suite if he was middle fingering out the door.
Speaker 3: They also decided basically to take twenty eight million dollars
Speaker 3: worth of dead cap over the next two years in
Speaker 3: order to get it done. So, I mean, that's a
Speaker 3: lot of money to say, hey, you'll play somewhere else,
Speaker 3: because it was a five year, ninety eight point five
Speaker 3: million dollars contract. That was the original contract. Now, of course,
Speaker 3: not all of that is there anymore. I think there's
Speaker 3: just remaining twenty eight million.
Speaker 2: On top of that.
Speaker 9: I need like a South Park skit of him and
Speaker 9: Jimbo Fisher just swimming or Frank right, Frank rag Yeah, Josh.
Speaker 4: McCown getting paid by two teams. Yes, yeah, all.
Speaker 2: Right, but there's your Shack Leonard update.
Speaker 3: Of course, we'll have more if something happens throughout the
Speaker 3: day to day whenever we come back tomorrow. When we
Speaker 3: come back, though, we're gonna take a look at the
Speaker 3: defensive preview going up against Geno Smith and the Seahattle
Speaker 3: Seahawks offense. They've got some weapons on that offensive side
Speaker 3: of the football. They're also missing some weapons on the
Speaker 3: offensive side. When we come back with more talking Cowboys.
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Speaker 3: Often, whenever you look at this Seattle Seahawks offense, Gino
Speaker 3: Smith not having the year that he did last year.
Speaker 2: But still winning games.
Speaker 3: And he still has weapons to throw the football too,
Speaker 3: Tyler Lockett, Jackson Smith and Jigbu And then of course
Speaker 3: dk Mcki Metcalf who's having a phenomenal year. Which one
Speaker 3: of those weapons scares you the most, especially now that
Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker's not in the fold. Zach Charbone is the
Speaker 3: running back, which one of these weapons from Seattle concerns
Speaker 3: you the most.
Speaker 9: When you take it to account what this Dallas defense
Speaker 9: does well in the secondary, what they've done well guarding
Speaker 9: so far this season. My answer would have to be
Speaker 9: Tyler Lockett, just because of his speed and his ability
Speaker 9: to play inside, play outside, He's gonna face different matchups
Speaker 9: throughout the game. He's a problem for opposing defenses, and
Speaker 9: I think that's gonna be the case for Dallas as well.
Speaker 9: I think what could really help Dallas this week, and
Speaker 9: it's starting to trend that way, is the fact that
Speaker 9: Kenneth Walker might not play.
Speaker 8: He didn't play last week.
Speaker 9: I believe it's an oblique injury that he's battling right now,
Speaker 9: and if he doesn't go again this week, then is
Speaker 9: Zach Charbonnay the rookie out of UCLA. If you remember
Speaker 9: around draft time, that was a hot name for Cowboys
Speaker 9: Nation as far as a running back that maybe they
Speaker 9: wanted to draft early on. Excuse me, but Tyler Lockett's
Speaker 9: that's definitely the weapon that concerns me the most. But
Speaker 9: in looking at DK Metcalf, obviously it's the size, it's
Speaker 9: the physicality off the line. His releases are some of
Speaker 9: the best in the NFL. And then Jackson Smith and
Speaker 9: Jigba it's kind of a similar It's almost like a
Speaker 9: package of what DK does with his physicality and what
Speaker 9: Tyler Lockett can do with his separation. You find like
Speaker 9: the middle ground with both of those things, and you
Speaker 9: have Jackson Smith and Jigba. The rock Wall native coming
Speaker 9: back to Dallas for his first game in the DFW,
Speaker 9: So I'm really looking forward to that. The last time
Speaker 9: that he played in at and T Stadium, he had
Speaker 9: six touchdowns versus Allen and won sixty to fifty nine
Speaker 9: in a playoff game.
Speaker 8: So you know he's looking to run that back for sure.
Speaker 2: Not okay with that, Yeah, not okay with that.
Speaker 4: By the way.
Speaker 3: Tyler Lockett in four career games against the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: four and zero, he's been targeted twenty five times. He
Speaker 3: has seventeen receptions for two hundred and twenty yards and
Speaker 3: four touchdowns. Now, I think most of that came in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, whenever he kind of went off up in
Speaker 3: Seattle against the Cowboys at home. Isaiah, how much does
Speaker 3: this change things? The fact that the defense gets to
Speaker 3: kind of play off of the crowd a little bit,
Speaker 3: gets to play at home in front of the AT
Speaker 3: and T Stadium crowd, which all of a sudden, this
Speaker 3: home field advantage.
Speaker 7: I think it's huge because we know that this defense
Speaker 7: of the Dallas Cowboys is momentum based and they are
Speaker 7: their high energy group, and if the fans are into it,
Speaker 7: if they can feel that energy, then these boys should
Speaker 7: simply just go off. And the office line for Seattle sucks.
Speaker 7: It has sucked for some years now. They just stopped
Speaker 7: investigating with two chaps.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean, just that's one of the frush.
Speaker 7: As a fan of Seattle sports, it's been frustrating to
Speaker 7: watch them not make that a priority since the time
Speaker 7: that they went back to back to the Super Bowls.
Speaker 7: They just have not invested money there and they're paying
Speaker 7: the price for it. You know, obviously Geno had a
Speaker 7: great year last year. This year, you know, they made
Speaker 7: some changes and those changes are starting to drastically affect him.
Speaker 7: They got rid of Dave Knelis or Dave went down
Speaker 7: to be an officer coordinator and down there for the
Speaker 7: Tampa Bay. He was actually there when I was in Seattle.
Speaker 7: He was really really good coach, really dedicated, really on
Speaker 7: top of his game.
Speaker 4: Always excited, always coaching you up.
Speaker 7: Now they have Greg Olsen, who I had when I
Speaker 7: was in Jacksonville, no disrespect, he's not Dave Canalis. So
Speaker 7: in terms of the development of Geno Smith, you see
Speaker 7: to drop off of his game, you know, over over
Speaker 7: that time, over that time span, and now Gino is
Speaker 7: getting under pressure from this offensive line. I think he's
Speaker 7: getting pressured by more than forty percent of his dropbacks,
Speaker 7: so he's just throwing it up in the air. He's
Speaker 7: inaccurate right now. So yes, they have the weapons to
Speaker 7: go out there and make you pay if he has time.
Speaker 7: But the thing is he's not going to have time
Speaker 7: against the Dallas Cowboys defensive line, and being at home
Speaker 7: just gives you that much more of advantage because once
Speaker 7: you get one, then usually you get two, three, four, five,
Speaker 7: and the sacks just start rolling in at Anti Stadium.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like to beat this Cowboys team offensively,
Speaker 5: you have to run the ball well, and not having
Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker would be a big blow there. I did
Speaker 5: like Zach start Sharpney coming out of the draft. I
Speaker 5: thought that he would maybe be a good compliment with
Speaker 5: Tony Pollard. But he's not the same, you know, big
Speaker 5: time player that Kenneth Walker is. I'd say when I
Speaker 5: look at that Seattle offense, one of the things that
Speaker 5: kind of surprised me. Maybe it shouldn't, is that so
Speaker 5: like on paper, if I'm just like picking guys like
Speaker 5: we're redrafting teams or something, Dk metcalf is the one
Speaker 5: that jumps off, you know the tape to you eighty
Speaker 5: targets only four forty three catches. That was just to me,
Speaker 5: like I thought his numbers would be a little bit.
Speaker 5: But that probably goes to what you're saying about the Gino.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at their offensive line and you're talking
Speaker 3: about how they they haven't invested up front. It looks
Speaker 3: like they've tried to invest, it just hasn't worked out
Speaker 3: to their favor. They spent a first round pick, an
Speaker 3: early first round pick on Charles Cross.
Speaker 2: He's their left tackle. He's probably about.
Speaker 6: As is Walter Jones could.
Speaker 2: Uh if he is, he's hurt old school Charles.
Speaker 3: Cross left tackle Damian Lewis, third round pick, undrafted free
Speaker 3: agent Evan Brown, Phil Haynes, Stone forthsythe I mean Jason
Speaker 3: Peters could be their starting right tackle.
Speaker 2: You know Jason Peters from last year. He'll probably be
Speaker 2: their their starting right now.
Speaker 5: How do you think that'll go?
Speaker 9: But yeah, it was funny here and Mike I talk
Speaker 9: about that yesterday. He was asked, I think, right off
Speaker 9: the top, like are you excited to go against Jason?
Speaker 9: And he was like, yeah, I like those battles that
Speaker 9: we had in practice last year. It's gonna be fun
Speaker 9: to run those back and kind of call them an
Speaker 9: old man, and it was.
Speaker 8: It was hilarious.
Speaker 5: I remember him saying that last year when he was
Speaker 5: on the team, just kind of being surprised that somebody
Speaker 5: would still be playing. Yeah, forty is just making it
Speaker 5: very clear that he had no intention that he's playing
Speaker 5: that longness.
Speaker 2: I don't blame him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they, I mean, they've got a ton of
Speaker 3: guys that are just been added this year.
Speaker 2: With these rookies that are all backups.
Speaker 3: They're all of their backups are rookies, Ray Kwana, O'Neill, mcclennan,
Speaker 3: Curtis Ola Walla, and Timmy Anthony Bradford from LSU.
Speaker 2: They are just young.
Speaker 7: They focused a lot and recently they as of the
Speaker 7: last few drafts, they focused most of their attention on defense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where they added their pieces.
Speaker 7: They were like, okay, you know, they had Russell Wilson
Speaker 7: and they were doing well offensively, so they're like, okay,
Speaker 7: well we're good on this side.
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and go to the defense side.
Speaker 7: And sure that up since the legion of Boom fill apart,
Speaker 7: so they started putting auto draft picks into the defense.
Speaker 7: And now that's starting to come to fruition. So now
Speaker 7: they're like, oh crap, let's go back to offense. You know, Jackson, Jackson,
Speaker 7: Smith and Jig But and there they're they're personnel in
Speaker 7: terms of receivers and running backs.
Speaker 4: And tight ends. I mean, they're solid solid.
Speaker 7: You slip on any of those guys, they're gonna route
Speaker 7: you up at the receiver position. Any three of those
Speaker 7: guys you don't want to face it in but one
Speaker 7: on one and then you know they picked up Noah
Speaker 7: Fan in that trade. So he's a big, big body,
Speaker 7: tight end that can you know sure hand it. He's
Speaker 7: not going to make no huge plays on you. But
Speaker 7: he's a possession guy, running back committee solid. It's just
Speaker 7: that offensive line is just as suspect and that's the
Speaker 7: unfortunate for them because Dallas's defensive line is the best
Speaker 7: part of their team and they're going to apply a
Speaker 7: bunch of pressure and Gino's going to continue to see
Speaker 7: that pressure.
Speaker 4: And his decision making hasn't been great.
Speaker 7: It hasn't been He only has eight interceptions, but he
Speaker 7: should have substantially more than that. Just the way the
Speaker 7: ball bounced, even when it's not an interception, it's way
Speaker 7: off line and you and it's for the first time
Speaker 7: I'm seeing Toddler Lockett with bad body language.
Speaker 4: That's how frust it is.
Speaker 7: Offensively over there to Seattle right now, because everybody knows
Speaker 7: Tyler Locke is he is the the professional. He's the
Speaker 7: guy that shows up, does his work, gets about the building.
Speaker 7: You know, doesn't say anything and negative and you can
Speaker 7: see his frustration starting to show on his body language.
Speaker 7: DK Metcalf, same thing. He's frustrated because he's not getting
Speaker 7: the rock. I mentioned it yesterday. Both of these guys
Speaker 7: together barely have as many yards as Ceedee Lamb has
Speaker 7: by himself, and that's absolutely insane for two Pro Bowl receivers.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, the production is very weird when you look
Speaker 9: at all three of those guys. The thing that stands
Speaker 9: out to me the most as I was watching film
Speaker 9: yesterday while I was blowing my nose out was the
Speaker 9: pass rush, as you said. And I feel more confident
Speaker 9: in the Cowboys chances in this game the more that
Speaker 9: I watch, just because I don't feel like this offense
Speaker 9: is going to have time, and this is an offense
Speaker 9: that is going to need time, especially if they don't
Speaker 9: have Kenneth the Walker. So the more that I watch,
Speaker 9: the more confident that I feel, not only that Dallas
Speaker 9: wins this game, but that it's comfortable.
Speaker 7: So they run the West Coast offense. That's what they run, Okay,
Speaker 7: very much like what Dallas is doing here. The thing
Speaker 7: that everybody should know by now is the West Coast
Speaker 7: offense is predicated on timing, right, you hear coach McCarthy
Speaker 7: going all the way back to training camp in terms
Speaker 7: of talking about Dak's footwork and how important the footwork
Speaker 7: is with the timing of the routes and getting the
Speaker 7: ball out, and their timing is shot the crap in
Speaker 7: Seattle right now because of the rush Geno's holding on
Speaker 7: to it, he's getting pressure and he's just releasing it.
Speaker 7: They're spacing on their route. Concepts are absolute trash right now.
Speaker 7: So you watch as you watch the film, watch how
Speaker 7: many guys bump into each other. Guys are getting bumped
Speaker 7: into each other's routes, and guys are supposed to be
Speaker 7: clear out routes are getting jammed up. And if you
Speaker 7: get your hands on these guys at any point in
Speaker 7: time during the route in those five yards, you're probably
Speaker 7: going to be pushing a guy into another concept that
Speaker 7: he's not supposed to be in that space.
Speaker 4: So it just looks bad.
Speaker 7: It looks very unprofessional, and it's almost disgusting to watch
Speaker 7: as a fan again, because they have so much potential
Speaker 7: when you look at their personnel. You look at these
Speaker 7: guys on paper. If you're playing man, you oh, I'm
Speaker 7: stacked right, But they you take that one element office line.
Speaker 7: If you can't block it up, if you can't get
Speaker 7: the timing, if you can't have an accurate throw, it's
Speaker 7: night and day. Gino lit up, this lit up everything
Speaker 7: last year. This year totally different, totally different story, which is.
Speaker 9: Really unfortunate when you look at a guy like Jackson
Speaker 9: Smith and Chigbu because he's so he's so dynamic in
Speaker 9: the short game.
Speaker 8: He's not a downfield guy.
Speaker 9: He's a guy that's gonna take a quick slant and
Speaker 9: take it forty yards after the catch before he's brought
Speaker 9: down because he'll do the littles exact thing. Ye, And
Speaker 9: it's so unfortunate because that's what this offense is kind
Speaker 9: of built for. It's for a weapon like that, but
Speaker 9: they can't get that timing done.
Speaker 8: You hear Mike.
Speaker 9: McCarthy and some of us in the media talk about
Speaker 9: that two point three second threshold all the time, and
Speaker 9: that's that's the timing that they're looking for. They're looking
Speaker 9: to get the ball out of Dak Prescott's hands and
Speaker 9: under two point three seconds and if it's not, then
Speaker 9: he's rolling out and improvising after the playing. That's what
Speaker 9: we've seen more s in San Francisco. Actually, but that's
Speaker 9: besides the point. But that's that's the bread and butter
Speaker 9: of a West Coast offense like that.
Speaker 5: When you talk about this team and watched them over
Speaker 5: the years, is this the most frustrated you think that,
Speaker 5: let's say the Seahawks fans are or just how they've played.
Speaker 6: Is it the most frustrating?
Speaker 5: Just because I think from afar two things you think
Speaker 5: about with the Seahawks. One that Pete Carroll is their
Speaker 5: coach and he doesn't look like he's a day over fifty,
Speaker 5: and he's the oldest coach in the NFL at seventy two.
Speaker 6: It's crazy to.
Speaker 2: Think that's sane.
Speaker 6: But you just assume at the.
Speaker 5: Very least, this is going to be a really tough
Speaker 5: ta Like I can just go off of like predictions
Speaker 5: off the last few weeks where you're just like, oh,
Speaker 5: the Cowboys are playing home, they're gonna roll this team,
Speaker 5: the Roles team. I look at the Seahawks and I'm
Speaker 5: just like, you know, these Pete Carroll coach teams, they're
Speaker 5: not going to just like roll over like this is
Speaker 5: gonna be.
Speaker 6: This is going to be still a dog fight.
Speaker 5: You know, how would you compare them right now to
Speaker 5: how he's bound me.
Speaker 6: Heck, they made the playoffs? What was eight? Eight out
Speaker 6: of nine years?
Speaker 4: No, for sure.
Speaker 7: So again, John Schneider is a beast of a GM.
Speaker 4: He's just he's that dude. Okay.
Speaker 7: He knows how to find value out of lower of
Speaker 7: draft picks. He knows how to move back, move around
Speaker 7: in a draft and all that kind of stuff to
Speaker 7: find that value. So even though they're not spending high
Speaker 7: picks and positions that they need to, you know, he
Speaker 7: thinks he's doing a relatively good job at acquiring talent,
Speaker 7: and I think he is. But it's these guys are stacked.
Speaker 7: Their roster is stacked offensively and defensively, right, and they
Speaker 7: did a good job of adding Leonard Williams defensively, which
Speaker 7: we'll talk about tomorrow. So when you look at their personnel,
Speaker 7: this is a good freaking team, but the execution isn't there.
Speaker 7: So when you start talking about the frustration, yeah, it's
Speaker 7: very apparent, and it's probably higher than it's been ever
Speaker 7: since Russell Wilson's last year.
Speaker 6: So it's on the coaching you're blaming it. Un Pete's
Speaker 6: his time is up? Is that what you're saying, that's
Speaker 6: what I heard.
Speaker 4: Pete ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 8: He's gonna be coaching.
Speaker 4: But to that point, yeah, he is. To that point,
Speaker 4: this is a team that you have to jump on.
Speaker 7: Early because if you, if you do allow these guys
Speaker 7: to get some momentum and get some confidence, they'll remember
Speaker 7: who they are.
Speaker 4: And I say that often, but like.
Speaker 7: You can't allow really good players to remember how good
Speaker 7: they are. You can keep them down right, And I
Speaker 7: tell you, guys will turn on the e break, they'll
Speaker 7: put it in the first second gear and just coast
Speaker 7: it out when things aren't going well.
Speaker 4: And nobody wants to hear that, but that's the reality.
Speaker 14: Right.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna go through and give you one hundred
Speaker 4: thousand percent of everything.
Speaker 2: I have, And they're still going to playoff Hunt.
Speaker 7: But they've had to work a couple of weeks, right,
Speaker 7: They've had a rough couple of weeks over the.
Speaker 2: Last few weeks and a tough schedule coming up.
Speaker 7: So if Dallas comes out and bust them in the mouth,
Speaker 7: I promise you they'll shut it down. Like I guarantee you,
Speaker 7: they will shut it down. Because even though you have
Speaker 7: amazing personnel stacked roster guys are frustrated and it's just
Speaker 7: like yo.
Speaker 4: Man, forget this.
Speaker 7: But if you let them stay in the game, and
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, Dk Maycalf has it, gets a
Speaker 7: big play, or you know, Tyler Lockett, he's back here.
Speaker 7: He lives here, by the way, so he'll have all
Speaker 7: his family here, right, gets a big play, and then
Speaker 7: all of a sudden they get some momentum and they
Speaker 7: start looking at each other like, yeah, let's do this.
Speaker 7: Now you've got a problem on your hands because Dallas
Speaker 7: plays a lot of man and man coverage, and now
Speaker 7: you're gonna have them.
Speaker 4: You're going to be trying to match up.
Speaker 7: You don't have the personnel to match up man and
Speaker 7: man against against their receivers when they're confident.
Speaker 4: You just don't.
Speaker 7: Okay, Derond Bam is playing really really good, right, Steve
Speaker 7: on Gilmore is really really good, But you don't have
Speaker 7: Jay Lou can't match.
Speaker 4: Up man a man against Jackson Smith and Jabo. Right.
Speaker 7: If you have Dk Metcalf going against Stefan Gilmour right
Speaker 7: now in this part of his career, I'm taking DK.
Speaker 7: So personnel wise, I think they're better when you play
Speaker 7: man to man but you can't allow for them to
Speaker 7: get that confidence. If you can keep them some merger,
Speaker 7: you can keep pressure on Geno and you can make
Speaker 7: those guys get some stops.
Speaker 4: They'll shut it down. But if they get that swag back,
Speaker 4: then you're then you're gonna be in trouble. That's just
Speaker 4: the reality.
Speaker 9: I'm more scared of the defense having confidence in the
Speaker 9: offensive weapons.
Speaker 8: Personally.
Speaker 9: I think we'll talk about the defense, yeah, tomorrow or
Speaker 9: next segment tomorrow, Tomorrow, We'll talk about the defense more tomorrow,
Speaker 9: But I worry about that pass rush of that secondary
Speaker 9: getting more confidence. That's what's going to keep the Seahawks
Speaker 9: in the game in my opinion. But yeah, there's a
Speaker 9: lot of truth in that. Like we've seen what dk
Speaker 9: Metcalf can do when he takes over a game. It
Speaker 9: just feels like it's.
Speaker 4: Once in a blue moon.
Speaker 9: That's that's that's what it is for me, And it
Speaker 9: doesn't feel like that with the defense. It's felt like
Speaker 9: it's happened to every other games.
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, defense they're defen is absolutely more consistent. But
Speaker 7: in terms of lighting a fire on this team, you
Speaker 7: can't let that dude either one of these You can't
Speaker 7: let Tyle Locke or DK Metcalf get their swag back.
Speaker 4: You just can't you get those right now. They're swag lists. Okay,
Speaker 4: keep them swag lists, because if they get their swag,
Speaker 4: they're gonna look.
Speaker 7: At each other and be like, all rightly, let's do
Speaker 7: this right, and then Gino's gonna remember who he was
Speaker 7: last year.
Speaker 4: You can't let him he bought out last year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, breaking it's so funny that he says that, because
Speaker 5: it just makes me think of Dak talking about yesterday
Speaker 5: about how even though like you know, people say they're
Speaker 5: playing these lesser teams, like he's like, trust me, we
Speaker 5: get everyone's best shot. You know, it's a Thursday night game.
Speaker 5: You're playing Dallas Cowboys and things like that. Like a
Speaker 5: lot of what you're saying makes sense to that how
Speaker 5: you could see them. You just get a little bit
Speaker 5: of a spark and all of a sudden, it's like,
Speaker 5: you know, you're the only game that's on everybody's watching.
Speaker 6: You're playing the Dallas Cowboys and they're building, you know.
Speaker 4: Because you're not.
Speaker 7: Because the thing is like you're not saying, I know,
Speaker 7: we got we gotta get out. Yeah, you're not asking
Speaker 7: guys to play outside of themselves. You're talking about really good,
Speaker 7: freaking players that just are in a rut right now
Speaker 7: and they're frustrated their down and things aren't going their way.
Speaker 7: But if you if that aspect is eliminated and they
Speaker 7: make some plays, then you're dealing with a whole different monster.
Speaker 7: Right now, you're gonna start getting the Pro Bowl versions
Speaker 7: of these guys, which was last year.
Speaker 4: You're getting Pro Bowl.
Speaker 7: These are Pro Bowl players that you're getting that you're
Speaker 7: gonna be playing against, right and theyre solid, just both
Speaker 7: sides of.
Speaker 4: Them, both sides of the ball. So just keep these
Speaker 4: guys submerged.
Speaker 7: Go out there, stop them early on, and then Sidney's
Speaker 7: cats home.
Speaker 3: They've won some big games this year. They're one of
Speaker 3: the few teams that have beaten Detroit. They're one of
Speaker 3: the few teams that beat in Cleveland. Sure, they've lost
Speaker 3: some some stinkers. At the same time, they've lost to
Speaker 3: the Rams.
Speaker 4: What was that Both of those games were at home, right.
Speaker 2: At Detroit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that Detroit game, the way they went in there,
Speaker 5: they beat them in their building. Detroit was riding high
Speaker 5: coming off that Kansas City window season.
Speaker 6: That was their home opener.
Speaker 5: They were putting out this Barry Sanders statue. They punched
Speaker 5: them in the mouth.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Thirty seven to thirty one was that final score.
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's uh, there's a lot to be desired
Speaker 3: from a Seattle side. Dallas can't allow them to reach
Speaker 3: that uh and reach that potential and shut them down.
Speaker 2: I think this defense is good enough to do just that.
Speaker 3: All right, when we come back at smelly sticker time,
Speaker 3: we're gonna give our players of the game from the
Speaker 3: forty five to ten win over Washington on Thanksgiving, and
Speaker 3: we'll give our players of the game and get you
Speaker 3: ready for tomorrow. Say it with your chest Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: To Talking Cowboys. Back here on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 3: This segment is brought to you Buy Him Visilne the
Speaker 3: official smile of the Dallas Cowboys, our Boy Maurice and
Speaker 3: Tacoma Washington wanted to give a shout out to Isaiah.
Speaker 3: He said, just want to say bring back the Sonics,
Speaker 3: my boy, Isaiah, looking good in that green and gold.
Speaker 8: They're coming back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 4: Yep, neankes year.
Speaker 3: He said, it'll be in town for the game. This
Speaker 3: Thursday and asked where we're gonna be at? Where are
Speaker 3: we going to be at, Isaiah, I'm.
Speaker 4: Not sure it is supposed to be a thunderstorm, is
Speaker 4: it really?
Speaker 2: We'll be inside.
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you, Okay, we're inside the.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we're at the stadium.
Speaker 9: When you are in the breast box, I honestly do that.
Speaker 9: It's a good time.
Speaker 8: This time. I'll try not to lose a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was what happened the last time.
Speaker 4: Barry doesn't get in trouble again.
Speaker 2: Well he's not staying. It's a night game, like kicked out.
Speaker 6: Just a scolding.
Speaker 2: He got a scolding, that's all.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: All right, it's time for smelly stickers here.
Speaker 3: From the forty five to ten win over in Georgia,
Speaker 3: there was one fault. I'm sorry. The forty to ten
Speaker 3: win against Washington. It feels like forever ago.
Speaker 2: But of course we didnt have any shows on Friday.
Speaker 2: We had the two man show yesterday.
Speaker 3: We wanted to wait for Nick and John to get
Speaker 3: it done. Today we're finally giving our players of the game.
Speaker 2: We'll let uh, well, let Nick Harris go first.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, well, well we can let John go first
Speaker 3: talking in the break, and he had a good idea,
Speaker 3: so it was fine, either one we're gonna let we'll go,
Speaker 3: We'll let John go first.
Speaker 5: The order Never, I'm never good at the putting the
Speaker 5: sticker with how the performance was, I just I don't know, man,
Speaker 5: Like I've gotten with this one before.
Speaker 6: I like this doughnut sticker. It doesn't really fit the player,
Speaker 6: but it's got to be for me.
Speaker 5: It's around Bland just because of the fact that the
Speaker 5: interceptions are crazy, you don't get me wrong, and he
Speaker 5: deserves a ton of credit for that. I can't find
Speaker 5: anything that fits Bland, like these are all pretty tasty
Speaker 5: things here. So anyway, I just it's it's not just
Speaker 5: the interceptions, it's once he gets the ball in his hand,
Speaker 5: and he's probably got a lot of confidence because of
Speaker 5: having you know, five pick sixes. But there were multiple
Speaker 5: times in that return where I was like, oh, he's
Speaker 5: going to get tackled, and he just made another move
Speaker 5: and made another move. It just like it just seems
Speaker 5: like everything's lining up for him. And it's just wild
Speaker 5: to think about how you literally had this two years
Speaker 5: ago with how crazy of a teared you know, Trayvon
Speaker 5: Diggs was on and then they have a fifth round pick,
Speaker 5: step up, get moved to the outside corner spot and
Speaker 5: just in play like this. So I want to ask
Speaker 5: you guys one question about Bland though, because I've just
Speaker 5: been thinking about this lately. Do you guys think that
Speaker 5: he would have this many pick sixes if he was
Speaker 5: still playing on the inside or do you think the
Speaker 5: move to the outside is put him in a better
Speaker 5: position have I'm not just saying the intercept, but to
Speaker 5: be able to return him for touchdowns.
Speaker 9: More opportunities I think allows on the outside, So I
Speaker 9: would say yes, I'd say no, he wouldn't have as
Speaker 9: many on the inside, but I still think he would
Speaker 9: find his just because he has that ball hawk. He
Speaker 9: has a knack for the ball. I'd hate to put
Speaker 9: a number on it, but two or three rather than five,
Speaker 9: I guess you know.
Speaker 3: I think it's just better positioning, more space once he
Speaker 3: does make the interception, because they are out on an
Speaker 3: island to a certain extent, and it's incredible how people
Speaker 3: are trying to discount what Doron is doing.
Speaker 8: Are they?
Speaker 2: Yeah, nationally, no doubt how well most of them are.
Speaker 4: Probably he's not a big name.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, like, how are they trying to discuss
Speaker 3: they're saying they're saying that it was against quarterbacks that
Speaker 3: aren't very good, like Bryce Young and correct, no.
Speaker 2: One in the history of the NFL has ever done this.
Speaker 2: No because I'm super dumb.
Speaker 6: Because I get the two arguments.
Speaker 5: I get the argument, like you absolutely can be critical
Speaker 5: of saying, hey, let's just wait on this cow Boys team.
Speaker 5: Look at who if they've played. None of these teams
Speaker 5: have winning records. I get completely validated. When you're doing
Speaker 5: something that's breaking history. Why isn't somebody else doing this?
Speaker 5: Fact that no doubt the fact all you got here?
Speaker 5: What kind of sticker is this?
Speaker 7: This is a mango on a sunny day, and there's
Speaker 7: a big mango, there's a small mango, and there's an.
Speaker 4: Umbrella being held by the larger mango. You guys know who.
Speaker 4: There's to the who these two mangos are. Who are they?
Speaker 7: Mcarthy and dak Is under the protection of coach McCarthy
Speaker 7: and these two are are two PE's and a pot
Speaker 7: and they're doing one egg of a job.
Speaker 6: I wasn't expecting mangos underneath one umbrella.
Speaker 7: They're on one accord and these dudes are doing the
Speaker 7: dog one thing.
Speaker 4: Coach McCarthy, Dakota Prescott, that's going did that? Well?
Speaker 2: Oh god, nicely done. That's funny, Sally done, That's funny.
Speaker 8: Are we just adding to the middle. Yeah, it looks
Speaker 8: like it just go down.
Speaker 3: We're starting to run out a room, which is a
Speaker 3: good problem to have. All Right, I've got a strawberry here.
Speaker 3: It looks like an angry strawberry. Serious, it is serious.
Speaker 8: We had that last week.
Speaker 4: Did that?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right there? It up front?
Speaker 3: Now that's okay. Well, I'm gonna go with it again.
Speaker 3: It's serious business for the strawberry. It's been serious business
Speaker 3: for this offensive line the last couple of weeks. They've
Speaker 3: they've continued to block for dak Prescott nearly two hundred
Speaker 3: snaps without being sacked.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to give this.
Speaker 3: To the entire offensive line. They've done a great job
Speaker 3: of protecting dak Prescott. Maybe a little angry from some
Speaker 3: of the early critiques that they had. Well, they've lived
Speaker 3: up to the expectation recently.
Speaker 4: You know what we need to start doing?
Speaker 7: What's that we need to start like getting a fine
Speaker 7: fine point Panis start writing on there like what who
Speaker 7: is who it was?
Speaker 5: I really wondering that about that one on the back
Speaker 5: that looks like an entire offensive line.
Speaker 4: This one was that was me?
Speaker 9: Yeah, because he had like an eye appointment or something.
Speaker 8: That's what it was.
Speaker 9: Sunglass and somebody came in on the text sign was like,
Speaker 9: Kyle needs a smelly sticker.
Speaker 2: That one on the back, that's the only one I've
Speaker 2: ever got.
Speaker 8: I can't get one for hot.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think you.
Speaker 2: I think this was you?
Speaker 4: Was that me?
Speaker 7: I think?
Speaker 8: So, okay, we'll shoot, I'll take you thing here.
Speaker 9: I am trying to get to uh, speaking of guys
Speaker 9: who would not typically get smelly stickers, I'm gonna go
Speaker 9: a little bit off off page a little bit.
Speaker 8: Are there other guys?
Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, are there guys that probably you know,
Speaker 9: deserved it more?
Speaker 8: Maybe so. Michael Parsons has a lot of stickers on here.
Speaker 9: You know, Jack, he's gonna get more throughout the year,
Speaker 9: and who knows, Shack Lyndard might get one or two.
Speaker 9: But uh, this uh, this this peach and it's like
Speaker 9: a ripe peach.
Speaker 8: It's a golden peach.
Speaker 9: And you know what's golden lightning lightning in a bottle,
Speaker 9: and it's a very happy, jolly lightning in a bottle.
Speaker 9: And the happiest and jolly person on this team is
Speaker 9: Cavante Turpin.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, I don't even see where the joke is.
Speaker 9: So I don't even see it, Like that's how bad
Speaker 9: it is. Uh, Covante Turpin. We've seen him get integrated
Speaker 9: into this offense more and more as the as the
Speaker 9: season has gone on. That seam route was absolutely beautiful
Speaker 9: on Thursday, and it allowed for the Turkey leg moment.
Speaker 9: So Cavante's turping this. This smelly sticker is for you.
Speaker 7: And shout out to Turp too, man, because you talk
Speaker 7: about somebody who came in and was an all pro
Speaker 7: as akuk returner, and that's pretty much the role that
Speaker 7: he was placed in last year. And the one comment
Speaker 7: that he had obviously coming into training camp was that
Speaker 7: he wanted to become a real receiver in his office,
Speaker 7: he wanted to become a dependable resource as a receiver,
Speaker 7: like I know I could return the ball, but I
Speaker 7: want to be a receiver.
Speaker 4: And that's exactly what he's doing right now.
Speaker 7: So shout out to him for a seting a goal
Speaker 7: and actually like making making good with it.
Speaker 5: He is probably I'm trying to think right now if
Speaker 5: there's anybody that tops him in the locker room in
Speaker 5: terms of before you walk in the locker room, you
Speaker 5: tell somebody like you got to find somebody in there
Speaker 5: that's in a good mood. And it's like, so the
Speaker 5: people I'm thinking of, I'm thinking of him. Tyler Smith yep,
Speaker 5: Dak is almost always positive. Yeah, Jordan Lewis is usually
Speaker 5: in a pretty good mood.
Speaker 8: Jalen Tolbert, Jalen Brooks.
Speaker 6: But Don for Sudan is.
Speaker 8: Mos terrified of us, That's the funny thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he is.
Speaker 5: But the Turpin would be my probably my number one,
Speaker 5: because he just actually seems like he's in a really
Speaker 5: good mood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a good locker room, It really is.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of those guys that kind
Speaker 3: of feed off of each.
Speaker 2: Other in the locker room. They do a really good job.
Speaker 3: So there are the smelly stickers from the forty five
Speaker 3: to ten win. Hopefully we'll do this again on Friday.
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 8: We do have a show on Friday this week?
Speaker 2: Yes we do.
Speaker 8: That's awesome.
Speaker 6: Yes, we're looking forward to this.
Speaker 5: I don't usually participate in Fridays. I know I'm looking
Speaker 5: forward to this immediate postgame reaction.
Speaker 2: Let's ride. That's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3: All right, We've got immediate pregame festivities on Thursdays, Yes,
Speaker 3: m Central time again. I want to remind you if
Speaker 3: you're going to the stadium, we'll be out there. Isaiah
Speaker 3: Barry Church, Nate.
Speaker 2: Newton, Nicole Hutcheson, maybe little Nick Harris.
Speaker 6: Maybe we're at where are we talking about?
Speaker 3: We're usually we're in the AT and T East Plaza,
Speaker 3: so the opposite of the middle of Whitehouse, right, But
Speaker 3: if it's storming, where will you all be?
Speaker 2: We would be on the field. It'd be a little
Speaker 2: more it would be a little bit more Confusedly.
Speaker 6: That put you by sky Mere?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yeah, skyerhind Yeah, okay.
Speaker 9: Does anyone else a story behind sky Mere? Like is
Speaker 9: there a story behind it? Like why it exists?
Speaker 2: I think it's just an art sculpture.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a reason.
Speaker 2: There is a reason.
Speaker 6: I think, Like if you take I don't know something
Speaker 6: with like a picture or something like that.
Speaker 5: I don't know, Like there is something about if you
Speaker 5: ever get in a group like take a picture with it,
Speaker 5: like the way that it like shows the sky like
Speaker 5: in the background of the picture, and it is good
Speaker 5: for for taking poses and front.
Speaker 6: I know a lot of fans do that when they're there.
Speaker 5: I think that that's one of the reasons they put
Speaker 5: it there, is because it's a good piece to kind
Speaker 5: of like you ever seen like that bean that's in
Speaker 5: Chicago like that, you know.
Speaker 2: So I think artist, Oh, okay, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 5: It is a good spot, especially with the fountain being there.
Speaker 5: If you're going to take group picture whatever, you take
Speaker 5: a picture. I haven't, but I think people should do
Speaker 5: that and then come see you guys.
Speaker 8: We should take a group picture of this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 2: Let's take a Talking to Cowboys group picture.
Speaker 4: I love that idea.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll be back tomorrow nine am Central time
Speaker 3: to break down a little QB vision and then give
Speaker 3: our picks for the game, and then we'll do picks
Speaker 3: for the NFL on Friday, the rest of the NFL
Speaker 3: on Friday.
Speaker 2: But we've got plenty more.
Speaker 3: To talk about this week here on Talking Cowboys for
Speaker 3: Chris Beam in the back, Isaiah Standback, John Manchoda, Nick Harris,
Speaker 3: and Kyle Yeoman saying so long from the star in Frisco.
Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow with more talking Cowboys.
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