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Speaker 2: Let's jump right into it. The Celtics beat the Cavs,

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Speaker 2: go on the road, take back home court one O

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Speaker 2: six to ninety three. Big night for Jason Tatum. He

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Speaker 2: six got twenty eight points from his sidekick. Hard to

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Speaker 2: gave him twenty eight the Celtics. There have been three

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Speaker 2: Celtics with at least thirty points in twenty five games.

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Speaker 2: Lad Bird, John Havlerchick, Jason Tatum. That's it. We understand

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Speaker 2: the storied history of the Boston Celtics. Three players in

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Speaker 2: five thirty point playoff games lad Bird, John Havlerchick Jason Tatum,

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Speaker 2: and boy do they need it because Jason Tatum has

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Speaker 2: not been playing well in these playoffs. He could ill

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Speaker 2: go on the road so steal home court from the Celtics.

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Speaker 2: But they needed this type of game from jt He

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Speaker 2: gave it to him thirty three points, thirteen rebound six

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Speaker 2: they snatched back home court one O six ninety three,

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Speaker 2: O Jo, what did you like? What did you like tonight?

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Speaker 2: From what you saw from themself?

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Speaker 4: I thought, I mean, I asked you before we talked

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Speaker 4: Gil politely told me they don't really have a chance

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Speaker 4: as long as a selfish come out and played the

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Speaker 4: type of game they played the night. They need Jason

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Speaker 4: they had one of those shooting nights. Obviously, Drew Holliday

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Speaker 4: you know, And I mean, it was an exciting game

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Speaker 1: It's what I would expected.

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Speaker 4: Again, I hear a lot of people, a lot of

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Speaker 4: do again, Dereck White. I need to see the Derek

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Speaker 4: only four for thirteen, he only had twelve points. But

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Speaker 4: I need to see the guy shooting and being the fishing,

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Speaker 1: And that's pretty much it. I like the Calves again.

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Speaker 4: When I look at the Calves, if Garlet is not on,

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Speaker 4: as the one headed muster led by Donovan. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: he cannot, he cannot. He just cannot do it by hisself.

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Speaker 4: It has to be a complete team effort. And what

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Speaker 4: I mean, it got to be a collective different from

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Speaker 1: No, for the better part, Well, they got thirty three.

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Speaker 2: We know they got sixty one from their dynamic duo

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Speaker 2: He was seven or ten from the floor, three or

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Speaker 2: a very high level. And that he's the call. He's

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Speaker 2: the he's the key that turns this thing. Yes, we

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Speaker 2: think he's more athletic. He can get to the rim,

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Speaker 2: lot of times the night he was taking the challenge.

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Speaker 2: You know he's taking Donovan mentioned he's playing Garland. They

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Speaker 2: was doing a lot of it. We got they switch everything,

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Speaker 2: They switch everything, and that's why that's what makes them

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Speaker 2: But as long as Tatum and Brown play like their

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Speaker 2: I just don't I just don't think the Cavs have

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Speaker 2: He's a big time playoff guy, and he's gonna give

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Speaker 2: you're playing every other day. I like it, but give

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Speaker 2: But they're looking because they guys have spread out. Al

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Speaker 1: Gonna have it. You ain't gonna have them. The MAVs

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Speaker 2: The mav won their second straight game on the road

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Speaker 1: PJ.

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Speaker 2: Washington continued is dominant playing scoring, scoring a game a

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Speaker 1: They win Game three, take a two to one series lead.

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Speaker 1: Take off. Hey PJ.

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Speaker 4: Washington, Hey PJ, I know you're gonna see this.

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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna see this. Boy. You're the real deal.

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Speaker 4: Boy, You're the real deal. But in back to back

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Speaker 4: Dohnson has an off night, if Kyrie has an off

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Speaker 1: He can pick and choose he wants to turn on.

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Speaker 4: the fourth or third quarter. Well, if PJ. Washington could

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Speaker 4: Ma's got a good chance. Man, Ma's got a good chance.

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Speaker 4: What I do need, what I do need, and I

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Speaker 4: mean I mean no disrespect, no disrespect by this. Daniel Gafford,

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Speaker 4: Derek Jones Jr. You got to give me something, baby,

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Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta give me something. I ain't ask

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Speaker 4: so much. I just learned, just told me and taught

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Speaker 4: cut down. So if they if a math then cut down,

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Speaker 4: the seven are cut down eight, that mean y'all got

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Speaker 1: Come on.

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Speaker 2: Now, what's what's great about this is that Luca was

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Speaker 2: If you notice he's Garden Shade, He's garden Jalen Williams

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Speaker 2: He's like, Okay, Luca, do your thing.

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Speaker 1: Now. He sees in the fourth quarter, I need to

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Speaker 2: You look at him first, the first six, the first

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Speaker 2: he's in a river.

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Speaker 1: PJ. Washington never lost this river.

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Speaker 2: So now as Kyrie breaking the defense down, he can

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Speaker 1: And so if you look at look at what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Look at PJ. Washington.

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Speaker 2: He played forty minutes. Dereck Jones Jr. He played thirty

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Speaker 2: You see now, even Daniel Gaffert played twenty minutes. Lively

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Speaker 1: Let's just file him.

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Speaker 2: We'll roll the dice because we don't believe he's gonna

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Speaker 2: But he gives you so much defensively. He's a big

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Speaker 2: He's great at finishing above the rim.

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Speaker 1: But they'll stop. They're stopping the game because they hack him.

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Speaker 2: He go to the line and there's no clock moving right,

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Speaker 2: So he's gonna have to get better. So that's gonna

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Speaker 4: How do they pick and choose when they want a

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Speaker 4: last game, who makes that decision?

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Speaker 1: The coach hot hot man, stay in, the hot man,

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Speaker 4: So if somebody, somebody the coach.

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Speaker 2: I gotta get I gotta get you, Gotta get him

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Speaker 2: you see you see the you see game two? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Hardway got it going.

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Speaker 4: No hold online now I know, and I've never seen

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Speaker 4: I asked. I asked it before. If you don't want

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Speaker 4: what happens if you refuse to come out the game, it.

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Speaker 2: All appears to who it is you like if you

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Speaker 2: He motioned for gafferd and PJ. Washington to come back

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. The big guys like, hey, are you tired? Nah? Man,

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Speaker 2: Lebron them have that kind Lebron has that kind of catch,

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Speaker 2: those are the big name guys that do a lot

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Speaker 2: come on listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it. I don't know why.

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Speaker 4: It just hit me when you were talking about by

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Speaker 4: I could run one hundred plays. It's never will be

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Speaker 4: I can imagine as a basketball player, if you are

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Speaker 1: Why would you sull me out?

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Speaker 4: And you know I need to find a way to

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Speaker 4: I gotta hit something. We gotta run a play just

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Speaker 4: if I can't deal, get this, go off, go off

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Speaker 4: Give me any so give me something, just don't take

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Speaker 2: That's why it's harder than people think to be a

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna get the shots that are loop that

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Speaker 2: a Lebron, that is Steph Curry, that of Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 2: So with the minutes that you get, it's kind of

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Speaker 2: fourth or fifth wire receiving bro. You can't afford to

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Speaker 4: they do in the playoffs.

435
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 1: And certain people don't want to shoot the goddamn ball.

436
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 2: Mm because you think about it, the fourth wide receiver,

437
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 2: he's not gonna get that many targets. So when we

438
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,400
Speaker 2: come to you on third down, you got to catch

439
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,360
Speaker 2: the ball to keep us on the field. The role

440
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: players when they come to you, you gotta make that shot.

441
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 2: But like coach bro I just got in the game.

442
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 2: I ain't even warm yet. Hey you got but see

443
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 2: that's why you got the Hey, you gotta stay ready.

444
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 2: Like you said, we got a two minute game. We

445
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 2: got a too minute drive going on. Hey, you don'e

446
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 2: caught for a five. You don't caught four five passes.

447
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 2: You need a blow. But you're important. We gotta call

448
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 2: time out. Okay, o Joe, get your breath. We gotta

449
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 2: come back.

450
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 1: Ah, that's crazy. That's how that So it's more difficult.

451
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 2: You know, we get on the role players, but it's

452
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 2: a lot harder you think because you're not gonna get

453
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 2: twenty shots. You may only get five to seven shots,

454
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 2: but they're asking you in a playoff atmosphere, you need

455
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 2: to make three a part of them.

456
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

457
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 4: You say you can't get twenty shots, but if you

458
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 4: if you're on the floor long enough and the ball

459
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 4: comes your way, and you know how to beat a

460
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 4: dude off the dribble. I mean, you could just start

461
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 4: chucking that bitch up anywhere on your own.

462
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 1: Hey, no, you're not finish. Start chunking that thing. I

463
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: mean a good shot, and I'm not just just oh.

464
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what I'm saying, Yeah, but what happens when that

465
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 2: shot doesn't go in? Remember you're not gonna get all

466
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: of those opportunities. You look at hold on, let me

467
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: because I don't have the I'm obviously not at home.

468
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 2: Uh look at the look at the role player. Okay,

469
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 2: Lively was too seven. Josh Green played fifteen minutes. He

470
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 2: was one of three. Hardaway played sixteen minutes. He was

471
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: three or nine. Luca Luca Kyrie took thirty four shots.

472
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: PJ.

473
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 2: Washington took twenty three shots. So now you're talking about

474
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: thirty four and twenty three. You're talking about fifty seven

475
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: shots between three guys. They only took ninety one so

476
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 2: the other and Derrek Jones was one of ten, So

477
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: now you talk about one, two, three, four, five, six.

478
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 1: The other guys took took forty four shots.

479
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 2: You see, Yeah, that's seven shots divided up between all

480
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: the rest of them per you see. So now when

481
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 2: you get the opportunities, it's kind of like a guy

482
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: coming in off the bench and hey, o Jo, you

483
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 2: that filth wide receiver. You dropped the third down, you

484
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 2: dropped the four dive. People looking, man, why didn't y'all

485
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: go to Ocho? Well, Ocho was double, he was wide open.

486
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: What was I supposed to do? They said, Well, what, Lebron,

487
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: why didn't you shooting the shot? Steph Curry? Why don't

488
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: you shooting the shot? Because the guy was standing over

489
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 2: there in the dunken spot? Why the ass open? Right?

490
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: So it's it's a it's a lot of pressure. It's

491
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: a make a misleague. Either you make the shot or

492
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 2: you don't. It's really that simple. I could drop all

493
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: the exits and nose or not hit the ball, go

494
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: in the basket, Ojo.

495
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: That's all that matters at the end of the day.

496
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: At the bar, and kind like I said, Kyrie is

497
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: kind of like feeling it out in the first half.

498
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 2: He let Luca get going, and Lucas kind of beat

499
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 2: all the hell. He's got a bad back, he's got a.

500
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 4: Bad make up to Hey, how he's so young and

501
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 4: he walked like an old man already, something wrong, something wrong.

502
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: You think he lied about his age.

503
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 4: He really older than what he looked.

504
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, Luke, you gotta realize Luca been

505
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: playing pro ball o Joe six, he's like fifteen to sixteen.

506
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 4: You see how you moving, how you walk, you walk

507
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 4: like an old man, likes he's like a young person

508
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 4: in the old person body.

509
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if that makes sense.

510
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 2: How about this, this, this comment got me in trouble

511
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: last time. Luca needs to be able to do a

512
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: better job of taking care of himself in the off season, Okay,

513
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: Jason Kidd. Jason Kidd has let it be known that

514
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: he would like for Luca to come in better shape

515
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: and not play himself in the shape, but to come

516
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 2: into camp or already in shit.

517
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 4: At least somewhat there, at least fifty percent there.

518
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: Okay, But here's the thing.

519
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 2: In the off season. I mean, oh, Joe, that's your job.

520
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 2: Your job is to be in shape.

521
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 4: But I think when it comes to especially somebody like him,

522
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 4: that I'm assuming the way they do things are different

523
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 4: wherever Luca is from, and maybe when it's the off

524
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 4: season they literally take off seasons literally off yeah, period,

525
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 4: when I go to camp, I'll play myself in the

526
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 4: shape as opposed to here, we do things a little different,

527
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 4: especially especially in off season. Basketball is a part of

528
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 4: their livelihood even when it's the off season.

529
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

530
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: I think the thing is, oh Joe, is that American

531
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 2: basketball players grow up saying, I want to be best.

532
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: I want to be better than Jordan, I want to

533
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 2: be I don't think European players grow up thinking that, right,

534
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: They like, this is an opportunity for them. They're gonna

535
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 2: make more money while beyond their wildest dreams. And you know,

536
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 2: obviously the ninety two Olympics it opened up basketball to

537
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: the world because now all those guys that Dirk and

538
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: the Whiskys and all these guys that saw the the

539
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: the the pro players playing because prior to ninety two

540
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: it was all collegiate players. Except for the rest of

541
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: the world. They're said they're pro players. Where Americans sent

542
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: their college players. But after after the Americans bombed out

543
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: and uh in eighty eight and sold so rich. Yes,

544
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: eighty four was in La Soul because ninety two was

545
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: in Barcelona. Yeah, once they bombed out there. Oscar Smith

546
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: did a number on the Brazilian team did a number

547
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: on them, and after that they're like, now, hell, now

548
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: y'all sending y'all pros. We're gonna send our pros because

549
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: at they started getting better and better because before, from

550
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,239
Speaker 2: the beginning of time, we always sent collegiate players. And

551
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: with the exception of seventy two, when the Americans got

552
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: robbed in Unich, the Americans won the goal, so eighty

553
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: So seventy two, they seventy six in Montreal we won.

554
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: We boycotted at eighty because of the invasion of Afghanistan

555
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: by the Russians, although it was held in the Soviet year,

556
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: it was held in Russia. Eighty four we won it,

557
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: and then eighty eight we got the breaks breed off

558
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 2: of Soocho and sold and it's oh no. And then

559
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: we sent the ninety two and we won, and so

560
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: forth and song. So that's that's kind of how that started.

561
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 2: But I've been really impressed with Kyrie, because yeah, we

562
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: know we can score either he's he's the greatest finisher

563
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: that you're gonna see.

564
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: Nobody hand the ball. He got the ball on the.

565
00:26:54,720 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 2: String, Hey three mid finished either handers spin it off

566
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: the rim up and under you filing, he's gonna go

567
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: make ninety percent. So we know what he's cap love.

568
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: But what I've been most impressed with him is watching

569
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: him on the defensive.

570
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: Ending defense.

571
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: Now he's been getting after, he's been getting after. The

572
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: Nuggets make this a series. They go it to Minnesota

573
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: and blow the doors off to them. Nikola Yokic showed

574
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: you why he's the MVP.

575
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: He's what.

576
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: Had twenty four points, fourteen rebounds, nine assists, three steals,

577
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: and three blocks, first player in the NBA history to

578
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: reach those numbers in a playoff game. Jamal Murray had

579
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 2: eighteen of his twenty four in the first half, which

580
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: set the set the tone. Said he was fueled by

581
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: the hostile crowd that booed him the moment he stepped

582
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: on the court during pre game. Obviously, he said, definitely

583
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: that few that that definitely fueled me during the game

584
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: and just keep me in a mold. So it's fun.

585
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 2: I embraced that challenge. I embraced that moment. I probably

586
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 2: deserved those bulls, so I'm not shying away from it. Obviously,

587
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: we know he threw the tower, then he threw the

588
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: heating pack. On the floor, and so that's what the

589
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: Minnesota fans were blowing. But they go on the road,

590
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: Yo kich became yo kitch. Jamal Murray gave them, gave

591
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: him what he gave up, and now Minnesota, you better

592
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 2: win Game three.

593
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: Now, ugly, it got, it got really got real ugly.

594
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 4: I can't I can't remember exactly how far the lead

595
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 4: they had at one point in the game.

596
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: What twenty twenty twenty something.

597
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, they ended up they ended up winning by like

598
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: twenty seven. I think they might have got it as

599
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: much as thirty.

600
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: It was bad. It was bad. Yeah, once they got

601
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: the thirty midway through the third ont you I have

602
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: like I'm gone.

603
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 4: You know, it's where the way they started off though,

604
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 4: they started they started off cooking, so everybody that was

605
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 4: making shots in the beginning of the game. Once they

606
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: got into a rhythm and everybody contributing, man, they got

607
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 4: to lead so goddamn far.

608
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: You know, the goddamn Wolves ain't have a chance to

609
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: even come back.

610
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 4: There's only so much that there's only so much ant

611
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 4: man can do, that's only so much cat can do.

612
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: And then the top that off, they were playing great defense.

613
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 4: They decided to play great defense.

614
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: That's a championship team. You thought they was gonna go start.

615
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: You thought they're gonna go quietly.

616
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: In the night.

617
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: I'm liking his basketball now, but hey, I'm gonna be

618
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: like Doorsburg, give me about another two weeks.

619
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: You thought they're gonna go quietly in the night. Oh Joe,

620
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: that that's a championship team. They made of the right stuff.

621
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And I think

622
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: and if you notice, like when the shots start to

623
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: fall for the road team, it seems like the basket

624
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: opens up. Not everybody. You see yo kids making joints.

625
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: You see a Holiday making John, You see Gordon making John's.

626
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: We know what Michael Porter Jr.

627
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: Can do.

628
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: All the guys Reggie So now all of a sudden,

629
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: now and you turn the ball over. It doesn't take long.

630
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: And see what that three point shot, no lead is satan.

631
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: But also with that three point shot, a five point

632
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: lead can go to fifteen to twenty quick.

633
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: And and you know Jamal Murray, Jamal Murray needed he

634
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 4: needed this game though. He needed this game after the

635
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: small inn thin, getting getting getting fine whatever, Winning cures all,

636
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: winning cures all he could through a goddamn chair on

637
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 4: the court like Bob Knight if he went out there

638
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 4: and played like he did the other night, winning cures.

639
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: All right, it's time for our first sayment of the night.

640
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, and it's a news cap, news cap.

641
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: You start shout out, shut out to my people, man, Sam,

642
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 4: congraduations and graduating from Sutherland noise, congrats, get you some

643
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: McDonald's twin.

644
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I was just out of graduation. My daughter.

645
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: You just went to who graduated my daughter?

646
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: She's she's the doctor. Hey, let's go.

647
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. Man, there's a doctor in

648
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: the house like script. Hey, hey, baby, my back hurt, right,

649
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: me a scrip? Oh baby, I got a headache. I

650
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: need another scrip.

651
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: Hey, that's dope. That's dope. Yeah, I'm proud of my baby.

652
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: Several names have been rumored to be in the running

653
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: for head coaching chair for the Los Angeles Lakers. They

654
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: include Kenny Atkinson, Michael Nori, David Edelman, and JJ Reddick.

655
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: Lakers are intrigued by jj reddick amitted coaching search. Uh still,

656
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: he's never coached at high school, of college or the

657
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: professional level. Does that sound like someone you be in

658
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: charge of a historic franchise looking for one last chance

659
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: to get.

660
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: A ring, uh for Lebron or a d An a d.

661
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 4: Yuh. So I'm gona think about I'm think about it

662
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 4: in football terms. So you have let's say you I'm

663
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 4: trying to let me think of a historic franchise. Just

664
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: say let's say the Dallas Cowboys.

665
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

666
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 4: And you have a former player that was good, that

667
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: was decent. JJ was nice. You have a former player like,

668
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: let's say, give me somebody to play.

669
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: For the Cowboys.

670
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: Uh, Michael Levin Smith, Now come on, Okay, that would

671
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: be in the coaching round to give the comparison as

672
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: far as the Lakers are having J. J.

673
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: Redick as a candidate, and would it makes sense if

674
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: you're trying to win a Super Bowl having a former

675
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 4: player that knows the game extremely well.

676
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't need to play for the Cowboys. He

677
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: just need to have to play it in the NFL

678
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: and had a decent career.

679
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: Okay, you know that's right. Great, they played in Philly, right, yeah,

680
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: JJ played.

681
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: He played with the Clippers, he played with the Pelicans,

682
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: he played with the seventy six ers, he played with

683
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: the Magic, He played about four he played with four

684
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: or five teams, had a nice career. I think he

685
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: played like thirteen fourteen seasons, average around nine to ten

686
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: points a ball game.

687
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: But he had a nice CAREERKA nice career.

688
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 4: So when I think about that, I'm gonna use for

689
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: fotball sake, I'm gonna say Cowboys, and we're gonna take

690
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: a player like come on, somebody boom Larry fiz Gerald.

691
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: Okay, but last laughis Gerald was a historically great player though,

692
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: So that's not what JJ was.

693
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's not nice. That's not nice. That's nothing.

694
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying, I'm saying you talking about laughist

695
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: Gerald laughis Jeral is going to be a first Balltle

696
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer.

697
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: That's not what JJ was.

698
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 4: I don't want to be I don't want to be

699
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 4: rude to the I'm.

700
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I understand what you're saying. I'm trying to think.

701
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 4: Give me a comparison of it, JJ Reddick in football terms,

702
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: good player, like you said, had a great career.

703
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: See it's hard.

704
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: Huh oh yeah yeah yeah. Especially that was marginal. That

705
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: was like a marginal player marginal. Uh yeah, but margin

706
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: a good thing. No, if you played fourteen years, obviously

707
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: you played well enough. It's kind of like, oh Joe.

708
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: We've seen guys that were really never like Mayde, never

709
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: made a Pro Bowl, never made an All Pro team,

710
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 2: that played thirteen fourteen, fifteen years, So that's not a knock.

711
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 2: So I don't want people to say, if you played

712
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: that long, obviously.

713
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: You're good enough to play in the in the league.

714
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: But I'm trying to think who would be an equivalent

715
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: football player, because I mean, I've been hell, I have

716
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: been gone.

717
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: I've been away for so long.

718
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: That that doesn't have coaching experience because a lot of

719
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: times you look at a Demico Ryan Demiko. Ryan was

720
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator. You look at a lot of these

721
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: guys there were Darvin Ham was an assistant coach for

722
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: He was an assistant coach in Atlanta. He was an

723
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: assistant coach for the Milwaukee Bucks. We're talking about a guy.

724
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 2: What they did for Matt Miller. Matt Miller was calling

725
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: games and they give him the general manager John The

726
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: same thing they did with John Lynch. John Lynch was

727
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: calling games for Fox and they gave him the GM.

728
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: John. You see them. That's so we're talking about a

729
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: person that didn't have any coach experience, do you think so?

730
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: You don't think ja j.

731
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: Reddick is a good candidate for historic franchise like the

732
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 4: Lakers because he had no coaching experience, but he knows

733
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: the game of basketball.

734
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Steve Curry having any coaching experience, I don't

735
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: think Steve kirkis coach. Steve Kirk was an analyst at

736
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: gn G when he got the job. When he got

737
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: he became a general manager. Also, you got to remember

738
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: for Phoenix and he.

739
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: Ended up going end up getting a job for.

740
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 4: The words you have to understand. But look at the

741
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 4: situation he went into. How much coaching can you do

742
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 4: when you're surrounded by a bunch of bunch of casts

743
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: like that, especially you.

744
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: Still got to put it together.

745
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I know you got to put it together,

746
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 4: but come on that Draymond Curry.

747
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: It's it's but here's the thing, though, it's to get

748
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: those to blend egos and put them together. It's it's

749
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: it's because you only got fined. I got a question

750
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: and you got and you got to convince. See it's

751
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: either with football because the quarterback has the.

752
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: Ball all the time.

753
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: But now you got to identify. Okay, he's the guy.

754
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: Everything runs flows through him, and you gotta be okay

755
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: with that. I don't know who. You know who said

756
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: who has a final call? We know who all has

757
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: a final call in l A right, it will be

758
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: Lebron Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it would be

759
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: maybe Lebron n a d.

760
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

761
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 2: Let's just say you have a guy like a Randall

762
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: Cobb that say, you know what I want to do coaching?

763
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 4: Hey, I can see I can see random car.

764
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: But he's an analyst and he gets an opportunity to

765
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: go interview for the Cowboys. Oh, he gets an opportunity

766
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: to go interview for the Steelers or the Giants. You're like, well, right,

767
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, I think Johsh McCown interviewed for

768
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: didn't he interview for Carolina?

769
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 4: Job?

770
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 2: He's never coaching before, So I don't want to knock

771
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: guys because they don't. I mean a lot of guys

772
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: had never coached until they coached, right, you know what

773
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I don't know what type of does

774
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: JJ Reddick no excell to those sure you does you hear.

775
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: Him talk the game? He understands the game.

776
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: He can he can he can talk about the game

777
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: and the terms that basketball players understand. It's kind of

778
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: like when you and I talk, we can talk in

779
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: terms that true football fans that understand the coverages and

780
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: how how the offense is trying to attack the coverages.

781
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: But the question is will that him being JJ.

782
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: Reddick, how does he think it's easier if the top

783
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: guys buy in as long as your top guys by

784
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: in the Patriot way was Tom Brady because he was

785
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: the only guy that needed to buy in, because if

786
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 2: he bought in, he could.

787
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 4: Convince everybody else to buy Yeah, well everybody, and so

788
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 4: that's what you need for everybody else better buy in

789
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: because everybody will over that over everybody over there was

790
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 4: expendable boy except twelve. I'll tell you that.

791
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and so and so That's that's what you

792
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: have to have. And so look at the end of

793
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: the day, they're gonna they're gonna make a They're gonna

794
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: make a make the best decision that they feel for them.

795
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: Probably probably with a historic franchise, you're probably need to

796
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: get somebody with some coaching experience.

797
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking about some head coaching experience.

798
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 4: Oh, I got one who that tell Phil Jackson? Dust

799
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: off the boots. What's happening? Dust off the clipboard.

800
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: Well, the problem with here's a lot of problems with

801
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: the Lakers is that's the problem is Phil Jackson because

802
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 2: he keeps, because he keeps yapping his mouth in Jenny's ear.

803
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: Either you wanted to coach, you stepped down. Remember you

804
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: stepped down because you didn't want to coach anymore. So

805
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 2: stop offering advice.

806
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 4: Oh so Phil, Phil feel in the background now, But

807
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 4: tell you, tell him, come on, come on, come on

808
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: to the fue front.

809
00:38:54,040 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he don't want to coach. He's a legend, legendary coach, legend.

810
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: It's easy.

811
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: It's easy to say, y'all, I want to coach Shack

812
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: at Kobe. Yeah, I want to coach Michael Jordan. He

813
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: has to have an opportunity to go to the Knicks.

814
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: He could have coached the next But but when you

815
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: don't have five transit, you don't have four three transcendent player,

816
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 2: a very a top fifty, a top seventy five player,

817
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: a top fifty.

818
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: Player like Scotty. Scotty is the top fifty, he's not transcendent.

819
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: Kobe Shaq, George transiting. Hell. So now all you gotta

820
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: do is manage egos.

821
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing is managing egos, because at some

822
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: point in time, somebody gonna start saying, hey, it's my team.

823
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: No, it's my team. The same thing that ended up

824
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: ripping the Patriots apart.

825
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: No matter what anybody tells you, that's what ripped him apart,

826
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: because one guy.

827
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: Eventually gonna want more credit than the other.

828
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: The thing that kept Magic and Kareem together, Cream say

829
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: what you want, cap Hey, you want to know. Hey,

830
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 2: you left the right hand, Get down with block. I

831
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: give it to you. Hey, we pushed it. Hey, cap

832
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: ain't got his touches. Magic back that thing out, Captain,

833
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: amble down to the block, throw that hand up, throw

834
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: that sky up on And so that's what you have.

835
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: You have to have somebody willing to be okay with

836
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:34,959
Speaker 2: not getting as much credit because eventually, hey, you're gonna

837
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 2: get tired of here. To know, Joe, you're gonna get tired.

838
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 4: To hear that.

839
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: Brady, Brady, Brady, and then even coach better, you could

840
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: hear well, it wasn't open to heart surgery. We had

841
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: other guys that played with you know what I'm saying.

842
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: You started hearing that from the coach right. Tom Brady

843
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: had his thumb almost cut his thumb off, a deep

844
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 2: gash in his hand. Well he didn't have open heart surgery.

845
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: Other guys play.

846
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's sick of.

847
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 2: It're like, hold on, I put this thing together. I'm

848
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: doing all the cooking. I bought the ingredients. I might

849
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: not be on the grill at the current time at

850
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: the time, but I bought all the food. I the

851
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: one that bought the ribs. I brought the brisket. I

852
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: brought the rib chips. I brought all this mac and cheese.

853
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: He bought them.

854
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 4: He' the one cooking it, though, and the one he

855
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 4: and the one on the grill.

856
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: I bought the ingredients I could have I could have

857
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 2: bought some bulld eye. I could have bought some hoghead cheese,

858
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: some vein of sausages. I could have bought some potted meat.

859
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: How that would have looked on your table.

860
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what you think about it.

861
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 4: When when you think about it, they had a twenty

862
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 4: year run with all types of food came through there,

863
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: and every year for some reason regards of what kind

864
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: of food came to that.

865
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: They did, one thing can make it look good.

866
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: I mean the way my grandma could make that BALLOONA

867
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: to fly that BALLOONA. You're right, and you stick that

868
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 2: forking at the bus, that buss off and you put

869
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: some man ain't on that bread. Hey, it was still

870
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: it was still blowing, but it tasted good. That party

871
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: meeting dividing sausages when.

872
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: She split the thing.

873
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: When she split them and got them a little brown

874
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 2: and nothing. We add little mustard. Sometimes we put boom

875
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: nasty food. But granted, could make that thing great.

876
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: Great? Uh A cuisine A cuisine.

877
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: It's simple, it's it's it's really it's really that complicated

878
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: for me. Hey, there's a team effort. If you notice,

879
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 2: every time something happens, I'll always bring the team. When

880
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: I got our Heart Awards, CJ was with the producers. Came,

881
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: we're going to the webits. Everybody going and hey, when

882
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: we had this thing, I said, hey, no o, Joe

883
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: need to be there.

884
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: I said, I get it. It's under my umbrella, but

885
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: it's night cap. It's unk.

886
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: When we had this thing, were we going to France?

887
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: I said, no, I'm not coming. If he can't come out.

888
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: We're going to France. So oh, we're going to France

889
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: and we're going to France. We we.

890
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, yeah, uh that's the that's the that's the thing.

891
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: And let's go people, let's people gotta you gotta you

892
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: gotta be up. You gotta be okay, even if you

893
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: don't get if you don't gonna get any of the credit,

894
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: but you definitely gotta be okay.

895
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: We're getting fifty percent of the credit. And that's so.

896
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

897
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: Look, there are some there are other guys. My thing

898
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: is I suggested that they should have hired ty Loot.

899
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: But see, harr's the thing, the same thing. The Lakers

900
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: have the same problem that the Cowboys have. You should

901
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: be honored to coach the Lakers or coach the Cowboys,

902
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: so you go take less than market value.

903
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: Look at the Cowboys. They ain't paying them, guys, what.

904
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: Them top top coaches getting top coaches getting ten, twelve,

905
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: thirteen to fifteen million. Yeah, they give five six million

906
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: because it's the Cowboys. And hey, it's one of thirty two.

907
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: So they should have hired ty Loot and they would

908
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: have never been in this situation because Ty Loo is

909
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 2: one of the great coaches, and he played. See, Lebron

910
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: really liked guys to coach him that actually played the

911
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 2: game because a lot of times they can see things

912
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 2: through the prism of what she's looking at, and so

913
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: that that helps a lot with him. But obviously he's

914
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: gonna have some influence. Ad it's gonna have some influence

915
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: who the head coach is. So I can't definitively say, oh,

916
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: Jo one way another shit, they hire JJ Reddick. I

917
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: know he knows the game of basketball. Well, put it

918
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: like this, he can draw the game up on the chalkboard.

919
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: If another thing. It's kind of like.

920
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: Those that can do those that can't teach.

921
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it'll be interesting to see who they who

922
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: eventually ends up getting the Lakers job. We know what

923
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: the Lakers represent, and uh, you got to get somebody

924
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: in place that gives Lebron over the next one or

925
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: two years a realistic chance. Probably gonna have to give

926
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: up that first round pick to bring somebody in if

927
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: you can. You know, if you can't lure someone in

928
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: free agency, hopefully you can lure someone in free agency,

929
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: but if not, you wanna trade for someone, You're gonna

930
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: probably have to give up that first round pick, and

931
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: uh probably throw a couple of players.

932
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: There's some players that you probably.

933
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 2: Want to give up, give up, like an Austin Reeves

934
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: or somebody like that.

935
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: That's probably what's gonna happen.

936
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, the friendly wager between LSU teammate Jane daniel

937
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: Elie neighbors is off now. They placed the friendly wager

938
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars bet which whoever would win off the

939
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: NFL's offensive Rookie of the Year would win the money.

940
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: But on Friday, after the neighbors attended rookie camp the Giants,

941
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: learning the specific of the NFL's gambling problem, excuse me

942
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: the NFL gambling policy, he revealed that the bet was off.

943
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: It is unclear if the bet would have violated the policy,

944
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: but the two aren't taking any chance, Neighbors said. The

945
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: neighbors said, I'm educated now and I got to be

946
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: able sports betting and gambling, so we're calling the bet off.

947
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: There's no bet.

948
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 4: Now, and no sir he elite neighbors. Jane Daniels, the

949
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 4: bettest still on the better still on give me the money.

950
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 4: I'm still a part. I'm not a part of the

951
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: NFL where I am waiting now, man, let me take

952
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 4: that back. Let me take that back.

953
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: Better still on no matter what, just put the money

954
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: in my hand.

955
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: Put the money in my hand, and I make a

956
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 4: decision at the end of the season on who deserves it. Malik,

957
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 4: you got to come to play, bright, You got to

958
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: come to play if you're going to outdo a quarterback.

959
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 1: What happened?

960
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: How about a bro I bet you're ten grand I

961
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: went offensive Walk of the Year? Okay, bet it's when

962
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: you made it public, right, see something some things you

963
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: just keep telling yourself.

964
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: O Joe.

965
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 4: Actually I like it, though I like it because not NFL.

966
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: Don't think he made it public.

967
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: I think it's it's a great motivating tactic.

968
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: Are you in a less motivated by thing? You?

969
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, how many people know?

970
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: How many people knew your goals? You didn't share them

971
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 2: with anybody, did you? And you was just as motivated

972
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: the chievo? Yeah, okay, you have to understand, well, look

973
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: I get it, Ojo, but you have to understand how

974
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: the NFL and the gambling. So you don't want you

975
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: don't even want to mention them, like I said, O Joe,

976
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: I bet you're such and such bete dude, at the

977
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 2: end of the year.

978
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: How'd you get this?

979
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna say how I got it, but a

980
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 2: good a good friend of mine gifted it to Yeah.

981
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: I think I think for one, on the leak Nabors part,

982
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 4: I think it was all in good fun, you know,

983
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 4: a little friendly, little friendly, really friendly friendly competition. And

984
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 4: I don't think I don't think it's against the NFL

985
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 4: gambling polish because they're not gambling on the game. They're

986
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 4: just it's a friendly wager between them between themselves based

987
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: on how they play their rookie season. That's all that.

988
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 4: That's no foul, no harm. Now you know, you want

989
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 4: to know what's harm me bribing the referee with a

990
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 4: goddamn ballar bill trying to challenge a ref call. Yeah,

991
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 4: now that that's not that. Now that's gambling because I

992
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 4: literally took out a dollar and tried to bribe the referee.

993
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 4: Now that I understand them making a friendly wager between themselves,

994
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: whether it's public or not, it's no harm, no foul,

995
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 4: And I hope i'd hope, you know, we we'd allow

996
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 4: those two to go out of this season.

997
00:48:59,280 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: Oh Joe.

998
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: You know there a lot of bets going on. Man,

999
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: that doesn't been the best between teammates. I mean not teammates,

1000
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: but hell I a teammates friend.

1001
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody knows I bet nobody.

1002
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: Nobody knew hell I bet Afa Williams twenty five thousand,

1003
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: but I would have more touchdown than he had sacked.

1004
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: God Man, guess what one I broke? I broke my

1005
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 2: collar ball week four. He broke he towards Achilles week five.

1006
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,959
Speaker 2: So we settled. I went to He wanted twelve five,

1007
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: so I said we could sell it. He had one sack.

1008
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: I had no choice, so we said. He said, I'll

1009
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 2: tell you what he said, I want twelve thousand, five

1010
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: hundred dollars.

1011
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: Guess what this joker wanted wanted.

1012
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: Don't say food, Susan B Anthony, dollars Susan B Anthony.

1013
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wanted those quarter dollars.

1014
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: I had to go to the back and get because

1015
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: he wanted to inconvenience me. He I wanted my pride.

1016
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: Can I gonna put that order into the bank? Could

1017
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: I get twelve fives and five hundred dollars of Susan

1018
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: be Anthony? Do you hard know how hard it is

1019
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: to get those damn things.

1020
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 4: He made it difficult, Yes, and they was heavy as hem.

1021
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: Hey, let's go listen.

1022
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 4: I like the bet, though, I like it.

1023
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: Because that's the way we bet it, so like we

1024
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: bet in the locker room. I didn't I didn't want

1025
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: your money. I want your pride. I want five hundred

1026
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: dollars nikels. Man, Sean, come home, man. I want you

1027
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: to take your answer to the bank. Ask the cashier

1028
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: could you get five hundred dollars in nickels? And when

1029
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: she asked, you say, mister such and such, why you

1030
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: need five hundred dollars on nickels. I want you to

1031
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 2: tell them I lost the bet to eighty four. I'll

1032
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: get Buffalo nickas. I get one hundred dollars in Buffalo Nickels,

1033
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: I get two hundred fifty dollars in dive. That's what

1034
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: I wanted. I wanted. I wanted what is it? Canaday

1035
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 2: half dollars? We call them Kenada fifty cent pete. Yeah,

1036
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: I wanted those, yes, silver dollars. Yes, I want your pride.

1037
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 1: Ohr. Everybody making money? So what is it for me? Okay?

1038
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 2: You lose a thousand dollars you're gonna bring me a

1039
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: thousand dollars cash.

1040
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: No, I don't want a thousand dollars cash.

1041
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: I want coins, pennies, nickels, dimes, Buffalo nickels, Susan b

1042
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: Anthony quarters, Canada, half dollars Canada fifty said what we

1043
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: call them in the South?

1044
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 4: Guy?

1045
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: You know we oh, you know, we gambled everything. We

1046
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: had a little poppet shot basketball fan in the locker room.

1047
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: So we we betting per dim. Hey bet everybody got

1048
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: their per diem lined up the.

1049
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:39,479
Speaker 1: Road for dim. Yes, yes, we bet road for dim.

1050
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: Man. Look me and we're getting ready to go to practice.

1051
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: Me and mahme Be and my homeboy Burns. He's like,

1052
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 2: we got so you know, we've been there for a week.

1053
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: So I went upstairs, got my check, got here, I said,

1054
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: because we like to bet, don't even look at it.

1055
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 2: Put it down. Okay, fine, bet, but what it is?

1056
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: So I put my check down. He put his down.

1057
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: We shoot, we gotta go to practice. We come back.

1058
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: Come on, let's get the ball first. Hey, hold up,

1059
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: me and burn shooting this? He shoot, he missed. I

1060
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: make it. So at that point in time, you get

1061
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: to open the check and see what it is. So

1062
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: he opened my check. I opened here. He was like

1063
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 2: fourteen hundred dollars. Mine was like seventy thousand. He said,

1064
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: Oh boy, you'd have been throwing up. Oh hell yeah.

1065
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: But that's but that's the chance that you mat. You

1066
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: don't look at the check.

1067
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,959
Speaker 1: You just bet. Yeah, I'm cool with that. I bet bro.

1068
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: Oh, we bet everything. Oh, we bet everything? Oh bout

1069
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: ray in between? You uplayed in between?

1070
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: What's that in between and in between?

1071
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: You take two? You take two decks of cards. I

1072
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: flipped one, I flipped both cards up. It might be

1073
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: an a, it might be a five. You gonna say, hey,

1074
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: in between, if it comes in between the eighth and

1075
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: the five, you win. If you get hit on the edges,

1076
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: you get dump. You have to pay double. So if

1077
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: it's an ace or five, you pay double.

1078
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: Man.

1079
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: We played on the way to super Bowl. Ask the

1080
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: guys what part got in life? Fifty grand, fifty thousand. Yeah, Oh,

1081
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 2: we took super Bowl. I took Oh, hey, Peter, I'm sorry,

1082
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: I gotta give up this information.

1083
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: Oh but we took we took.

1084
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: Hey, we took four super Bowl tickets off Willie Green,

1085
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 2: fourth super Bowl tickets and ten grand.

1086
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: I know, I was very general.

1087
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I want to do old school car seventy one?

1088
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: I said, Man, give me five grand. I can't, I say,

1089
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: cause you go home and tell your wife you lost

1090
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: this car. It's gonna be problem. You give me five grand,

1091
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 2: we'll call it either. And Mike used to tell him, say, look,

1092
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 2: y'all gambling with eighty four. Do y'all know how long

1093
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: eighty four have been playing eighty four? Okay, I don't

1094
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: really like you guys gambling because I don't want you

1095
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 2: faking about your lost twenty thousand and thirty thousand during

1096
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: the game. But if I rock with you, if I

1097
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 2: want to big some of money off, y'all like, bro,

1098
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 2: go ahead, Hey, just give me, give me five grand.

1099
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: We'll call it eve. But I wanted nice black chrome rems.

1100
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: Just got it. It probably worked. By twenty twenty five,

1101
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: I said, man, give me five grand.

1102
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: You cool boy?

1103
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: Hey, for y'all listen, I know I know we gain

1104
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 4: whenever the gambling went on locker room training camp.

1105
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: We don't break man. I'm I'm man. You know I

1106
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: ain't around none of that. Bro, I ain't got time.

1107
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: Why do you think spending money gam came about.

1108
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you gonna ask anybody that played in dem

1109
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 2: sir from nineteen from nineteen ninety five ninety six, all

1110
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: the way they closed it down when I lift, when

1111
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: I came back.

1112
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: It came from there. That's what we gambled.

1113
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 2: We played cards, we wrote roll dice, they played video game,

1114
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 2: We drank smoke.

1115
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: All that within club. That's how it came to be.

1116
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: And I don't see. I don't see how y'all do that.

1117
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 4: Man, and people in the chat that gamble, people just

1118
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 4: in general, like even when y'all was playing, even former

1119
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 4: teammates of mind, there was there was there's such an

1120
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 4: excitement and passion and joy in people's faces when they gamble.

1121
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 4: Here from and me being from Miami watching people gamble,

1122
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 4: playing spades, playing playing tunk, playing get like me with

1123
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 4: the quarters back in the day we were in high

1124
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 4: school watching watching the dope boys play selo. Excuse me,

1125
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 4: I hate, I hate to say that word, but watching

1126
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 4: the boys play seto.

1127
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: Like, what are we doing?

1128
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 4: I'm not doing nothing or losing my money to anything

1129
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 4: where I can't control it.

1130
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: Like if I'm losing money, I want to be in

1131
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: control of it.

1132
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 4: I don't want any outside variations of what I'm doing

1133
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 4: to cause me.

1134
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: To lose my money. I can't, I can't do it.

1135
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 4: And then I remember going, I went to the casino

1136
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 4: with Rail and I'm talking to the man. I'm saying, sir,

1137
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 4: are y'all gonna stop the man from continuing to gamble

1138
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 4: that much money at the high roller table?

1139
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: Why you allowing him to do this? But that's what

1140
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: we do here. Why do you think you don't have

1141
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: no We got a gamble gambled. Why do you think

1142
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: we don't have no windows? What the you means? What

1143
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: the windows have to do anything?

1144
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: Because clocks on the wall because they want you to

1145
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: lose track of time and they pumping their fresh ox.

1146
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: Listen.

1147
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 4: I learned all this just not too long ago, but

1148
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 4: that when I was in Vegas for F one.

1149
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, man, y'all.

1150
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 2: We gamble, yeah, y'all, every night, every There was not

1151
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 2: one night in Denver when I was in training camp

1152
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: that we do and gamble. Oh Joe, we was going

1153
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 2: to bed like we gotta be like we got practice

1154
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 2: at nine. We ain't going to bed till like two o'clock,

1155
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning, and.

1156
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 4: Y'all going to practice on four five hours of sleep yep.

1157
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: And the last night we stay up the whole night

1158
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: like our crew that normally, Oh we got you gotta

1159
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: stay up the whole night.

1160
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: Thank oh.

1161
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: Oh we had a black Hey, we had a last

1162
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: Oh and the last and the last night the rookie.

1163
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: Got to get him, got him. Yeah, I remember the day.

1164
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: What man, Look here, we go to the store.

1165
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: We get like twenty five pounds of flour, We get

1166
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: like eight nine ten bottles syrup. We cut the pillows open,

1167
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: we got the tar and feather. Oh not the tar feather.

1168
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, by stay with your hard to get off. I

1169
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: do don't know.

1170
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: Think about how many guys came with bed with bed

1171
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: with pillow feathers in their head and only stuck on

1172
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: their back and on the neck. Hey, because you know

1173
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: I was cool. Hey, you know, hey, I get the key,

1174
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: I get the master key in their sleep five stewish

1175
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: him down, booking up out of there. Oh, we did

1176
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: some da but you know what Mike said, Hey, hey,

1177
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: I don't normally do this, huh, but I know, you know,

1178
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: probably eighty four had something to do with it, and

1179
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: this team or some stuff.

1180
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: Popped off. They already know. Mike knew.

1181
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: The team building. We got this cut. Oh we that

1182
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: dorm was a mess. Yes, yes, because hey got to

1183
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,439
Speaker 2: get them O Joe, it's a part of it. Whether

1184
00:58:58,520 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: to lebron.

1185
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: Cost definitely, most definitely, most definitely.

1186
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: That's what I missed, Joe. See, that's what I meant,

1187
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: a son, that's what I miss. The talent show like

1188
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: we did. Y'all have a talent show, like the rookies

1189
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: had to put on the talent show.

1190
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: But hey, listen that that hard knock y'all hads that

1191
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 4: talent show. Boy, when when Buddy did ray Lewis and

1192
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 4: Buddy did and uh Buddy did you and me, boy,

1193
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 4: I was in tears. I'm talking about it, tears crying.

1194
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: That was good. Oh yeah, that was good. Oh we

1195
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: have we have we had a talent show.

1196
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 2: We have a tailor show in uh in different But

1197
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: I ain't you know, like I said, I I ain't

1198
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: really know like I said. I mean, when I was

1199
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: in college, we didn't really do the stuff like like

1200
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: like rookie stuff. Hazy, they ain't cutting nobody hair and

1201
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: stuff like that. I mean, I'm trying to think what

1202
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: we did to the rookies cause they got me. I mean,

1203
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: it was it was all all fun. Like I said,

1204
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: I won't let nobody cut my hair, you know what

1205
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying, And I ain't do We wasn't doing anything

1206
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: to the mean anybody we want to go cut your

1207
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: hairs and foolish just like that. Well I'm sure there

1208
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 2: was some things that we did, but that was all

1209
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: a part of it. That's what I miss That's what

1210
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: I missed. If they could just let me and I

1211
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: was like Mike, if I could just go back, I

1212
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: ain't want to do meetings no more. That's what really

1213
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: got me out of the league, the meetings. I said, Mike,

1214
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: just let me practice, let me show up to practice right,

1215
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 2: and let me playing the games. Your boy good? Yeah,

1216
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: you boy good? I said, But uh oh, Joe over

1217
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: to day Bro. I wish I could get those back.

1218
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: I wish I could do that. Obviously I couldn't play anymore,

1219
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: but I just want to go hang around the just

1220
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: go heck not now I'm just st my guys. What

1221
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: I was like after I left, like three or four years,

1222
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 2: I just wanted to go back because a lot of

1223
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: the guys that I played with was still playing man.

1224
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: I said, man, I wish I could just go back there.

1225
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: They're like sharp, Man, it ain't the same without you

1226
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: cause you, oh Joe, you know I.

1227
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: Can't it live. Yeah, oh yeah.

1228
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to get on bus too, cause they you know,

1229
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: the coaches, everybody on. You know, the owner with on.

1230
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 2: But everybody, Hey, sear what bus you're getting on? Cause

1231
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 2: you know we're gonna keep it froming. We bad it

1232
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 2: on somebody. Somebody wore some bull drive today.

1233
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: Are you or y'all get on the down fence? What

1234
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: I got on? The dude so bad I made him

1235
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: took as I fit off on the.

1236
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 2: Plane, got fined because Mike say, I told you got

1237
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: to work.

1238
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: Made him take it to come up at it. It

1239
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: was that bad, made him come up at you.

1240
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 4: But today today's NFL players boys show.

1241
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it is a fashion show.

1242
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 2: I made him come up by I made him come up.

1243
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 2: Oh they hey Sean, may you see what such a

1244
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: sean come look with such and such got on.

1245
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: I got to get him. I got to get him.

1246
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 2: The only person that you could not get upset about

1247
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: their dress was easy here and McCaffrey and McCaffrey that

1248
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: Joe coming out there looking like a four H camper.

1249
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: He gonna have on khaki pad and a blue blazer

1250
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: that he got folded up that he takes out his

1251
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 2: double that and everything that what he did got every

1252
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: time and some and some and some Doc Martin and

1253
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 2: don't care and don't care nothing. So we didn't even

1254
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 2: bother they had that got to the poor ass, like

1255
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: why ragged you don't care?

1256
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: We didn't. We didn't give people to actually care that

1257
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: if we rag on.

1258
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: Oh oh I ma hey me at the back of

1259
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: that plane, make him come slam up out of ojoke.

1260
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: Plane with where is that? I remember that. I remember.

1261
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: I remember.

1262
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 4: Going to the airport and everybody got to meet at

1263
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 4: the stadium before you know, to get on the bus.

1264
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 4: Remember everybody used to bring pope ass. Oh yeah, the

1265
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 4: rookies had to bring the rookies. Rookie, the rookies had

1266
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 4: to bring pope ass. You know, I you know, I

1267
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 4: came with my own. I came with my own McDonald.

1268
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1269
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: Man, them joking, man, the jokes. Have you go get man,

1270
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 2: they go get ribbed, Make you go get rims man.

1271
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: You gotta go get man, Big Cad, big Cad Washington

1272
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: was what was on my team for year.

1273
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: Man had had them rookie go and get Popeyes, mac

1274
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: and jeans. Cry.

1275
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:08,479
Speaker 2: Can't see how they come on, dude. Yeah, but see

1276
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 2: this is before your time. See we used to could

1277
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: drive right up, park our cars and get right on

1278
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: the plane.

1279
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: Plane back up and we take off. Yeah.

1280
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 2: We never we didn't have to go like my first

1281
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 2: my first four or five years, we didn't have to

1282
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 2: go to that port, go to a private hang right,

1283
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: park your car, walk right up, get right on the plane.

1284
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: Oh hey, ain't I ain't never heard of that bar?

1285
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: That yeah, man, oh oh that was. That was lovely, lovely.

1286
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: And then you know you had to start, you know,

1287
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: had to start getting there on time, because Mike, we're

1288
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: gonna leave you.

1289
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: Mike, we're gonna leave you.

1290
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 2: If you wasn't number seven, number thirty, number eighty four,

1291
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 2: maybe a few of them, because Mike, my dad's what

1292
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: was such and such like, oh.

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Speaker 1: We hold a plane, we got we can, it's a

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Speaker 1: charter flight. We leave.

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Speaker 2: We want to somebody else, anybody else. But I wasn't

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Speaker 2: gon you late already already understood, because I know God's looking.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be late.

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Speaker 2: The volume m HM