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Speaker 2: All right, I'm a few time zones ahead here, so

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Speaker 2: I'll try to make it through the show where I

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Speaker 2: just was. It's ten pm right now.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so you're gonna be uh going going to betty

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Speaker 1: by soon right in the middle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you should go to bed around eleven, so you're

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Speaker 2: right next hour. You're on your own. You might hear

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Speaker 2: me snore, do a Deborah Mark and kind of fade

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Speaker 2: off on. I did what would be called the BVP Tour.

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Speaker 2: I named it that Budapest, Vienna, Prague. Did you love Prague, hen, Yes,

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Speaker 2: And if you want to go, that's the order to

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Speaker 2: do it. Don't go to Buddhapest as much as you

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Speaker 2: should go to Vienna. Don't go to Vienna as much

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Speaker 2: as you should go to Prague is very unique, John,

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Speaker 2: Do you go to Prague?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I've been to two of the three. I haven't

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Speaker 1: been a Budapest.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, you know what I kept thinking to

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Speaker 2: you because it came up with the tour guide and

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Speaker 2: she was kind of discouraging about it. She SAI every

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Speaker 2: now and then she said, he and this building a

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Speaker 2: Communist block housing, that's a remnant of the Communist and

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Speaker 2: you know, ugly, you don't look at it very it's

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Speaker 2: we used to call those big settlements Communist block housing,

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Speaker 2: and they did. They look exactly like this. These really

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Speaker 2: just pale looking brick buildings, hardly any windows. Everything's a prison.

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Speaker 2: Everything prison.

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Speaker 1: The Communists felt that everyone should live in prison conditions.

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Speaker 2: Those countries were so overrun. I learned so much history,

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Speaker 2: but you know, between the Turks and then eventually you

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Speaker 2: know Hitler and then of course the Russians and the Communists. Wow,

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Speaker 2: it's like every few years somebody's in there. I learned

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Speaker 2: a few things about Poland that I have to talk

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Speaker 2: to you about that. I didn't go to Poland. It

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Speaker 2: other three countries. Big stories today, and of course the

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Speaker 2: big against is the shooting at the biker bar in

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Speaker 2: Orange County where we have a gunman who was shot dead.

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Speaker 2: So he's dead, and then three people were killed. He

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Speaker 2: apparently was there looking for his estranged wife. There's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a news conference at three, which of course will

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Speaker 2: carry on CAFI. Well, we'll begin some coverage this hour

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Speaker 2: with Corvin Carson Camfie Newsvin. What's going on today, guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been yeah, man, I've been speaking with different

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Speaker 3: information to share. First, one story that has been circulating,

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Speaker 3: a source told me is confirmed that there was a

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Speaker 3: it appears that the shooter did return to a truck

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Speaker 2: Hey, what do we know about the shooter? The shooter

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Speaker 2: is John Snowling. He's a retired sergeant from the Ventura

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Speaker 4: Right correct.

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Speaker 3: The Orangeina DA's office has confirmed that the shooter is

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Speaker 3: It appears Snowling may have been targeting his wife in

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Speaker 1: He has he had any history of violence, mental illness,

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Speaker 3: I haven't come across anything like that yet. But if

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Speaker 3: This is the father of the wife or the estranged

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Speaker 3: And some of the other interesting I think we should

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Speaker 3: Dozens of first responders flooded Cook's Corner in Tubuco Canyon.

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Speaker 3: There were multiple shots that came in to report the shooting.

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Speaker 3: This is a biker's bar tuck deep into the windy

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Speaker 3: and they were there also to hear a band called

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Speaker 3: the But it seems as if they're gonna be okay.

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Speaker 3: And here are some of the status of the other victims.

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Speaker 3: The critical patient number one was a male. He shot

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Speaker 3: Another one was a female. She was the one shot

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Speaker 1: Did what was his track as he wandered through the bar,

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Speaker 1: and I know there was a lot of outdoor patio areas.

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Speaker 1: Was he shooting indiscriminately or was he picking people off

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Speaker 2: Or was he in a stationary position?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: I've asked a lot of questions about how that timeline

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Speaker 3: But from resources and witnesses that we've seen, it appears

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Speaker 3: That's another interesting piece of information is how fast deputies

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Speaker 3: So you know, I'm told, yeah, one of the a

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Speaker 3: And then there was also some deputies from other nearby

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much, Corvin. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it, guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, Corbyn of course, covering the story, this is

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Speaker 2: And again the man they say did it was a

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Speaker 2: this story is weird because this is a former police

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Speaker 2: they did kill him. So four dead, that includes John Snowling.

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Speaker 2: We don't know the identities of the other three. And

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Speaker 2: as you heard, Corbin say the former wife Marie was shot,

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Speaker 2: To give this a try, that would be the Moist

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Speaker 2: a news conference at three o'clock we expect in Orange

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Speaker 2: four people dead, including the shooter. You know, before I

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Speaker 2: You can guess what happened next. Thousands and thousands of

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Speaker 2: Holy mackerel. The city of la has decided to spend

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Speaker 1: More thing about about the hype over the storm. I

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 1: That's all he had. He didn't go through a whole

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Speaker 2: All right, Another day, another court appearance for Trump that's

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Speaker 2: Of course, the state charges against him there for campering

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Speaker 1: Going to surrender it to seven thirty because he wants

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Speaker 2: Oh, is that the theory? I heard four thirty. I said,

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Speaker 1: Apparently the district attorney said, as soon as you do it,

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Speaker 1: Well, because it's going to be difficult to campaign during

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Speaker 2: Well, plus the federal case against them is supposed to

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Speaker 2: the vagrants again. In the city of Los Angeles. There's

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Speaker 1: It's disgusting if if ordinarily the city would shut down

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Speaker 1: What if this is just a stuff these ancient, dilapidated

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Speaker 1: old hotels and other apartment buildings and just shove hundreds

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Speaker 1: of crazy people inside and now at least they're off

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Speaker 1: the streets and let let you know, let the roaches

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Speaker 1: and the mice and the feces and the urine just

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Speaker 1: that that's the environment these people are gonna live in.

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Speaker 1: And they're gonna fight with each other and once in

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Speaker 1: a while they're gonna stab or shoot each other. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be injecting drugs and snorting drugs all day, Maybe

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Speaker 1: a few fires'll be set, and that that's going to

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Speaker 1: be their life.

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Speaker 2: That's the housing for them. I think this is the

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Speaker 2: plan now. Yeah, I'm reminded of the analogy that you know, well,

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Speaker 2: you've got guests coming over, so sweep all the trash

447
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Speaker 2: underneath the carpet and cover up the stains on the

448
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Speaker 2: walls with pictures, but the trash is still there. You

449
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Speaker 2: haven't really fixed the problem. But they can't fix it

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Speaker 2: if they can't fix it unless they make these people

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Speaker 2: suffer consequences and be responsible for themselves, if trying to

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Speaker 2: run and manage people's lives when their lives are a

453
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Speaker 2: dysfunctional mess does not work. That's what we're learning every day.

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Speaker 2: I see these stories. It's the same thing.

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Speaker 1: We've they've had quite a few years now, and they've

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Speaker 1: tried every stupid progressive idea. They've all failed. Because if

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Speaker 1: somebody is addicted to drugs, or mentally ill, or simply

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Speaker 1: too stupid and lazy to do what's necessary to survive.

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Speaker 2: Did you see this? Tracy Tompkins spoke to the old

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Speaker 2: Segondo Times reporters, Oh this is filthy. She says she

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Speaker 2: goes to sleep every night with towels stuffed under her

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Speaker 2: door to keep the roaches out. When she needs to

463
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Speaker 2: go to the bathroom, she finds herself going to other

464
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Speaker 2: floors because the ones on her floor are always dirty

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Speaker 2: or clogged. Quote. There are literal tissues that somebody wiped

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Speaker 2: their butt with and stuck it on the wall. It's

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Speaker 2: been stuck on the wall for months. It's not uncommon

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Speaker 2: to see animal poop and urine in the hallways because

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Speaker 2: some residents won't even take their dogs outside. They just

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Speaker 2: haven't poop in the hallway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you gonna do with the guy who poops, wipes,

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Speaker 1: and then sticks it on the wall. There's no therapy

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Speaker 1: for that guy.

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Speaker 2: They live like wild animals. Leslie Morales, who works in

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Speaker 2: the management office, says that well, these are people that

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Speaker 2: have just lived on the street for too long. They're

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Speaker 2: still learning.

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Speaker 1: They're still learning. The elevators what a fool.

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Speaker 2: People items in the crack between the elevator car and doors,

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Speaker 2: or they slam on all the buttons, so the elevators

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Speaker 2: often break. There aren't enough washers or dryers. Everything is

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Speaker 2: a complete disgusting wellness.

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Speaker 1: They also overfill the laundry machines, and so it's so

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Speaker 1: the machines break because.

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Speaker 2: They don't know how to do that, John, they've lived

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Speaker 2: on the streets and never washed anything, or they don't

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Speaker 2: have enough quarters. And of course in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the story you see one of these homeless service providers

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Speaker 2: that's probably getting a pile of money, and they're supposed

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Speaker 2: to manage this building, and this is.

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Speaker 1: What it looks like, right, well, but how could it not.

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Speaker 1: There is no way to fix their brains. No, and

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Speaker 1: they don't put them all together in one building where

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Speaker 1: you will have a disaster. And the people in this

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Speaker 1: ridiculous industry they know this. If we know it, they

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Speaker 1: know it. But they're making a lot of money off it.

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Speaker 1: So that all of these people just die in their

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Speaker 1: own filth. All these people are going to overdose one day,

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Speaker 1: and so that that I think that ultimately is what

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Speaker 1: Karen Bass's plan is, you know, just shove him off

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Speaker 1: the street, let him die in these hotels they're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep injecting. With all the fentanyl out there, all of

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Speaker 1: them will die. That's harm reduction for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, more coming up, Johnny ken caf I

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Speaker 2: am six forty. We're live everywhere. It's the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf

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Speaker 5: I Am sixty.

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Speaker 1: Those of you who listened to the show for years

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Speaker 1: know our producer for a long time now has been

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Speaker 1: Ray Lopez. And Ray ran into his third, possibly fourth

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Speaker 1: round of COVID.

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Speaker 2: Over the weekend and he's on the line.

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Speaker 6: You're there, Yeah, down here is it?

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Speaker 2: So? Is it number three or number four?

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Speaker 6: I think it's for sure number three and highly probable

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Speaker 6: it's number four. This is number three, and uh yeah,

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Speaker 6: got me, got me again?

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Speaker 2: Now where'd you go this? Where'd you go? This time?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: I didn't go anywhere this time. It's time. I just

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00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 4: stayed in and going work. So the last three years,

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Speaker 4: every summer, so summer twenty twenty one, August twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 4: my birthday, my birthday in August twentieth I got I

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Speaker 4: got COVID going to Palm Springs and I had COVID

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Speaker 4: for my birthday. And then last year I twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 4: got COVID in June coming back from vacation, and then

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Speaker 4: uh yeah, on twenty twenty three again got it tested

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Speaker 4: positive Monday morning and that was no Tuesday. Tuesday morning

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Speaker 4: and that was that. But I felt fine Monday. I

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Speaker 4: went to the gym and sweated a lot and got

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Speaker 4: everybody stick at the gym.

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Speaker 2: I go, oh y, yeah, hey wait, so is your

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Speaker 2: Debora Mark on the plane? Right?

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, yeah, between the two you, you people's

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Speaker 1: infected hundreds spread.

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Speaker 2: It's all right. I've had it one time. He's had

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Speaker 2: a four. Well, yeah, he's had all the variants I

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Speaker 2: think Ray has.

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Speaker 4: Right, Oh yeah, I've got to have all the variants.

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Speaker 4: You know, why am I so? Why am I so

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Speaker 4: lucky with COVID? But I'm not lucky like in other

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Speaker 4: things like the lottery and stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's one good point. Yeah, what if you're unlucky? What

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Speaker 2: have you done to your immune system?

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Speaker 1: Because if you've had it three or four times and

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Speaker 1: then you got all the shots, right, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I got all the shots. Remember I was the one

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Speaker 4: that that cheated. I cheated. I cheated, I cheated, I

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Speaker 4: got in front of the line. I lied about you know,

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Speaker 4: having to be you know, I was John Kent's producer,

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Speaker 4: and that is you know, and what did I say?

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Speaker 2: It was emergency services? Yeah, absolutely necessary.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're you know, we're the eas station station of record.

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Speaker 2: Have the symptoms changed with any of these three times?

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Speaker 4: No, the same, all the same. It's even the COVID

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00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: farts all the same.

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Speaker 1: What thanks for that COVID farts.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have any COVID farts. Is that a thing?

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00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a real deal.

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Speaker 2: I would ask you. I guess you could spread it

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Speaker 2: with COVID farts.

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Speaker 4: Huh yeah, oh, I for sure. You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I well, I'm pretty sure somebody's in here. Barbara Ferre

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Speaker 4: talked about the COVID parts next. I want Steve Gregory

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Speaker 4: to ask her next time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question.

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Speaker 4: Is that why you're asking us? Because you know the

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Speaker 4: COVID parts are deadly?

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Speaker 2: Always a class act that Ray, isn't he? So now

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Speaker 2: you know why our show is so crash. You know

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Speaker 2: why I was a little suspicious because I saw this

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Speaker 2: story that today, August twenty fourth, is the sickest day

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Speaker 2: of the year. It's the day when Americans call in

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Speaker 2: sick the most. They did this research over spanning over

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Speaker 2: the last five years, and this was the day. They

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Speaker 2: think it's mostly because people get the late summer. I

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Speaker 2: want to take a day off there they're not so

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Speaker 2: he coughs. I get it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you weren't. You weren't at a party, any

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Speaker 1: kind of gathering.

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Speaker 4: No, no, you.

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Speaker 2: Just got a terrible system. How do you not have antibodies?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I guess I'm just sickly. You know, some people are

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Speaker 4: just sickly, sickly, sick sick sickly.

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Speaker 2: Well, uh, so you know you're not taking packs love

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Speaker 2: it or anything.

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Speaker 4: No, I called you know, get this, I called my doctor.

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Speaker 4: I guys, you know, give me some remet and they

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Speaker 4: never come me back. This guy again.

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Speaker 1: Nah, how about some some chlorax bleach that's supposed to work,

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Speaker 1: that drinks some license.

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Speaker 2: That's Trump's cure.

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Speaker 4: So what I do is I just take a bunch

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Speaker 4: of nichael and go to sleep. Just go to sleep.

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00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 4: Just go to sleep. Drink water and drink whatever else.

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Speaker 4: Just go to sleep.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know anybody who's had it

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Speaker 2: as many times as year.

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Speaker 3: Three.

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Speaker 4: Every freaking summer, I'm gonna get it every summer. That's

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Speaker 4: that's now. I know, I'm gonna get every summer, every summer,

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Speaker 4: every summer. It's in the ass, and you get it.

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Speaker 2: Bad too.

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Speaker 6: You Yeah, I get it bad.

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Speaker 2: All right? Right, Well come back soon, right, go go

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Speaker 2: lie down? You're hoping, mondays, I want to hear you're

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Speaker 2: gonna come back.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll be back Monday. I'm gonna get everybody sick.

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Speaker 2: No, don't come back monday. If you're still I should

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Speaker 2: be masking up again.

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Speaker 1: I will.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a list of people to go visit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, cats, I have the same list.

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Speaker 2: So all right, let's producer Ray with another bout of COVID.

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Speaker 2: It's at least as third, possibly as fourth. I just

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Speaker 2: started a new story today about here it comes again, John,

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Speaker 2: the flu shot and the booster. I'm like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: screaming in the car. No, no, I can't. I can't

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Speaker 2: hear it. I can't even read about it.

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Speaker 3: I know it.

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Speaker 1: We're in a permanent state of mental illness now, the

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Speaker 1: whole whole society.

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Speaker 2: All right, When we were returned, we'll talk a bit

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Speaker 2: about last night's Republican debate. Doesn't really matter because you know,

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Speaker 2: unless things change wildly, Trump's the nominee. But anyway, this

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Speaker 2: and more coming up. Johnny ken CAF I am six

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Speaker 2: forty live everywhere.

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