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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to George Nori with Ruben videote. Rubin.

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Speaker 2: What I don't get is how could these craft with

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Speaker 2: an amazing technology to get here all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: end up crashing. What happened?

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Speaker 3: You know, George, that's still a question at other researchers

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Speaker 3: as well as myself. He's been trying to find to

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Speaker 3: write the answers. I been looking into some of some

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Speaker 3: of the research in terms of numbers of crash retrievals.

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Speaker 3: I remember I shared I had some stats the last

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Speaker 3: time we were on your program, and I went back

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Speaker 3: and I looked at him, and there's a report named

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Speaker 3: the Pea Research Pea Research name after a gentleman that

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Speaker 3: put together this focused spreadsheet of crash retrievals that occurred

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Speaker 3: from nineteen forty seven to nineteen seventy eight, so it's

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Speaker 3: just a short window period almost forty years, and basically

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Speaker 3: he indicated that there were forty three UFO crashes that

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Speaker 3: occurred worldwide, and out of that, there were one hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty one alien bodies that were retrieving and then

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Speaker 3: focusing on just the southwest. There were twenty twenty UFO

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Speaker 3: crashes that taken place in the southwest, and I include Arizona,

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Speaker 3: New Mexico, and Texas. And in those twenty crashes, fifty

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Speaker 3: eight alien bodies were retrieved, and so I broke it

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Speaker 3: down even further by state. Arizona had the total of

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Speaker 3: six UFO crashes and ten bodies were retrieved. New Mexico

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Speaker 3: had twelve UFO crashes with forty six alien bodies retrieve.

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Speaker 3: That's an amazing number all dead. Yeah, yes, sir, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there were some found alive in one of the other crashes.

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Speaker 3: But then Texas the Mexican border, there were at least

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Speaker 3: two crashes and two alien bodies retrieved. This is based

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Speaker 3: on his research. But I found a memo and this

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Speaker 3: is also kind of controversial, but it was from the

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Speaker 3: FBI and it was written in March twenty second of

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Speaker 3: nineteen fifty and basically, there were three fine saucers that

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Speaker 3: have been recovered in New Mexico. They were described as

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Speaker 3: being circular in shape with race centers approximately fifty feet diameter,

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Speaker 3: and each one was occupied by three bodies of human

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Speaker 3: shape but only three feet tall, dressed and metallic cloths

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Speaker 3: and were very fine texture, and each body was bandaged

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Speaker 3: in a manner premiere to blackout suits used by speed fires.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, it said that it's possible that there was

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Speaker 3: a very high powered radar set up in that area,

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Speaker 3: and it's believed that the radar interference interfered with the

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Speaker 3: controlling mechanisms of the saucer, so it might have been

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Speaker 3: hardly that perhaps that might have been one of the

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Speaker 3: causes of these these crashes. So still doesn't answer why.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, unless we could find up with these

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Speaker 3: whistle blowers that have been appearing where there were involved

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Speaker 3: in crash re Treeople, so we can get maybe some

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Speaker 3: more research, I mean, or more answers from some of

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Speaker 3: the researchures that we're that are part of the government.

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Speaker 3: Whether we'll find out that's another story, but hopefully that

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Speaker 3: we'll be able to became more information as what were

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Speaker 3: the causes of these earlier crashes and then what's occurring now.

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Speaker 3: So you mentioned if there were what's going on in Mexico,

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Speaker 3: and I wanted to before I get right into some

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Speaker 3: interesting stats, I wanted to share with you with move

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Speaker 3: on overall back in nineteen twenty four to me. Last

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Speaker 3: year our cases, our case bashment system was down for

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Speaker 3: three months, so we weren't able to gather statistics or

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Speaker 3: finish devestigation.

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Speaker 2: Three Wow, Yeah, we were down.

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Speaker 3: We were down. First of I was thought that we

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Speaker 3: were hacked, and it just turned out that our system

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Speaker 3: was getting overloaded. It was old and right now they're

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Speaker 3: putting it back together. But we had over four thousand,

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Speaker 3: three hundred and forty one cases that was submitted for

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. In the year before that, we had

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Speaker 3: about in twenty twenty three over eight thousand, seven and

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Speaker 3: eighty cases, So that tells you we about past fifty

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Speaker 3: percent is what we went down approximately. Well, seeing that

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Speaker 3: I'm the national director for MUTHAN for Mexico, I interact

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Speaker 3: a lot with numbers of people Mexican, the local Mexicans,

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Speaker 3: nationals and citizens who lived there in various parts of

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Speaker 3: the country, and also a lot of tourists, a lot

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Speaker 3: of American tourists that are on vacation as well as

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Speaker 3: path are certain of people that are either at the

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Speaker 3: coming in and out of the ocean and pretty much

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Speaker 3: the stories are very similar. The witnesses are very credible.

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Speaker 3: Many of them had military background there with their families.

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Speaker 3: So I started to put together the types of how

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Speaker 3: many fightings have been occurring along the major resorts, So

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Speaker 3: I selected Cancun, portrait Aarta, and Kavasan Lucas. So I

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Speaker 3: just wanted to share these stats real quickly for the audience.

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Speaker 3: But for Cancun and I went back twenty years. I

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Speaker 3: had approximately twenty four reports from the Cancun area. Nine

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Speaker 3: of those cases were was to determine as unknown.

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Speaker 2: In all great tourist areas, do you think that all

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Speaker 2: you have to do with.

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Speaker 3: It, yes, exactly. I mean there's there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: answer but the logical sites, there's a lot of sight

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Speaker 3: seeing tours in that. But in that general area in Cancun,

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Speaker 3: for example, as I mentioned, there were twenty four reports

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Speaker 3: Porto Riarcta. I had over sixteen cases. Among those were

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Speaker 3: sightings of boomerang shape objects and primarily orbs. And I

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Speaker 3: had eight cases that I can that were considered as unknown.

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Speaker 3: So out of the sixteen, eight was considered as unknown.

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Speaker 3: So that's almost about fifty percent of the report for

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Speaker 3: US for Porto Riarcta. And what's interesting about portog Riarca

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Speaker 3: Pacific Ocean. And then the other interesting resort is Alison

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Speaker 3: Lucas It. Out of the twenty two cases, I had

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Speaker 3: nine cases that were out of the nine it was

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Speaker 3: determined as unknown. So and then I looked at both

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Speaker 3: cruises Georgian there's a number of people that go on

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Speaker 3: both cruises toward Mexico and the Caribbean. And I found

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Speaker 3: that interesting because out of eleven incidents, I had eight unknowns.

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Speaker 3: Out eleven, eight of those had unknown it was reported

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Speaker 3: as unknowns. Based on the investigations that I conducted as

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Speaker 3: another other investigators.

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Speaker 2: Do any of them ever describe Ruben what the occupants

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Speaker 2: look like?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's I'm going to get into that whole

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Speaker 3: interesting topic there because I'm going to share with you

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Speaker 3: some of the reports that I received, especially in baj Baja, California.

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Speaker 3: I became very interested in some of some of the

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Speaker 3: cases that have come from there. But they've ranged from

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Speaker 3: the typical grace to this is really interesting, from repellient

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Speaker 3: shape creatures to two amphibians or there was one case

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Speaker 3: that that will go more in the depth of a

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Speaker 3: gentleman who saw the occupants that looked they look like salamanders.

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Speaker 2: How about how about the praying mantis types?

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Speaker 3: So far, No, that I've come across. I take that back. Yes,

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Speaker 3: there was one that turned out to be a possible

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Speaker 3: abduction experience. The lot of strange anomenally on that. So

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Speaker 3: I come across a variety and I'd like to jump

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Speaker 3: into that if you wouldn't mind about some of the

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Speaker 3: some of those cases there sure one of the what

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Speaker 3: did the events that happen in Mexico City. It's going

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Speaker 3: to be twenty five years that this is particular event happened,

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Speaker 3: And I occurred in Mexico City in an area called

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Speaker 3: a couple cncle it's that's a nasty niwa walk word.

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Speaker 3: And there was a disc that flew into that area.

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Speaker 3: It's part of the northwestern part of Mexico City. And

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Speaker 3: this object was flying low and it was being tracked

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Speaker 3: by the police officers. There were shade chasing this thing.

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Speaker 3: It was flying low, but it was flying over a

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Speaker 3: a white boulevard and it was being chased. Then there

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Speaker 3: were other police from other precincts that also joined in.

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Speaker 3: And one of the strange things that happened, George, was

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Speaker 3: as the police were chased in this thing, all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden their communications radios and would work, and so

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Speaker 3: the object kept flying and then it landed in a

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Speaker 3: soccer field in a vocational college. And it landed right

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Speaker 3: there in the center of a soccer field. Well, the

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Speaker 3: police arrived right up to the gate, but they weren't

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Speaker 3: able to to climb over it. They weren't able to

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Speaker 3: to contact anybody because their communications was out. But there

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Speaker 3: was a security guard there, and a female security guard,

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Speaker 3: and she she she looked down down the down this

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Speaker 3: ramp and saw the disc object and it was the

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Speaker 3: object was it was lit up. And then she looked

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Speaker 3: down and she saw this being walking around around the

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Speaker 3: disk and she noticed that that the skin, she described

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Speaker 3: it as a skin that looked like a dinosaur, a reptile.

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Speaker 2: Didn't didn't scare her.

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Speaker 3: She was scared. Oh yeah, she in fact she saw it.

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Speaker 3: She didn't mention that until there were some investigators that

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Speaker 3: talked to her. One one of the gentlemen who was

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Speaker 3: really involved in it was named Erto, and he he

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Speaker 3: spoke with her and so she described what this thing

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Speaker 3: looked like and she never went back to her job,

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Speaker 3: and that that really shook her up. But I found

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Speaker 3: that really quite interesting. Happened on Valentine's State for were

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Speaker 3: best documented cases that occurred in Mexico City because it

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Speaker 3: involved so many witnesses. Although it had happened around two

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Speaker 3: very quite interesting that you were dealing with a reptoid

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Speaker 3: type or dinosaur type creature. And then when I got

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Speaker 3: involved in the Mexican cases in terms of what was

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Speaker 3: occurring in California, I found this one report that was

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Speaker 3: actually put together by how many Fimi Malts done and he,

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Speaker 3: of course he's one of the leading journalists of Mexico Mexico.

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Speaker 3: And what I found interesting was there was a gentleman

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Speaker 3: So he decided to wait it out until next morning

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Speaker 3: while he was sleeping in his truck at the area

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Speaker 3: lit up at this big disc started to descend and

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Speaker 3: he looked at it and he was just totally frightened,

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Speaker 3: and so he bent back and hid behind his steering wheel,

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Speaker 3: and that's when he noticed these particular beings that looked

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Speaker 3: like like teleamanders, that's how he described it, because the

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Speaker 3: bodies were soaked in or he translucent, that he was

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Speaker 3: able to see the organs within the creatures. They weren't

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Speaker 3: wearing uniforms, but he could see the spine that big

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Speaker 3: black eyes, and he said they were approximately about four

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Speaker 3: feet they see in in length, were in high Excuse me?

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Speaker 2: And the guy seemed convincing, wasn't he He was convincing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 3: He was praying and he just made a lot of amends.

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Speaker 3: And well, the craft left and so he decided to

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Speaker 3: go and get some help. So when he went, and

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Speaker 3: he walked many hours and he came to a ranch

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Speaker 3: and he told the people there what had happened, and

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Speaker 3: he said, oh, yeah, we were familiar with who these

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Speaker 3: people are. You're lucky you didn't get caught, because they

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Speaker 3: have already taken away some of our people.

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