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Speaker 1: in studio with Ashley and I. What's up. Heather, Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: were talking about being in the season. We thought she

427
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Speaker 1: wouldn't fit the royal batchelrette, like she was the one.

428
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, she's gonna be like the everyday person.

429
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: What I'm seeing instead is she actually is very calm

430
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: as the bacherette and fits that role perfectly because she

431
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: can manage and handle a bunch of little boys being

432
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: little boys. One guy stands up above the rest, though,

433
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: and I know the woman out there will love to

434
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Speaker 1: talk about it. He stands up above the rest, is

435
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: not a little boy and puts his foot down. And

436
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: that's Peter had a good feeling about all season. People

437
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: have loved all season. He hasn't engaged in this craziness. Connor,

438
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: Peter Tyler, Luda knew on neither as Tyler Tyler has

439
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: not ann either. Oh yeah, I guess Connor hasn't either.

440
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: And and we see Peter finally say, gents, this is

441
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. This is stupid. You guys are being idiots,

442
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: Like you're ruining a really good thing here, and you're

443
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: ruining an experience that we all want to have. Yet,

444
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: what happens, and here's something that I want you to

445
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: to take with Until this week, he's been one of

446
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: the fan favorites. People have liked him. Garrett not even

447
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: in my top six right now, yeah, he ruins it

448
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: because who speaks up right away? Garrett does, brings a

449
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: conversation right back, can't get rid of it. He is

450
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: obsessed with Luke Pe obsessed. He kept going like I thought,

451
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: like lastly he said a couple of times, and then

452
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: he said it again, and then he said it again,

453
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: like what are you doing? Yeah, no, he definitely has

454
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: proven that he is more infatuated with Luke pe drama

455
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: than he is with him. Yeah, absolutely no. But I

456
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: loved when Peter said that, Like Peter said that out

457
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: of like actual care. Didn't feel like he was like

458
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: trying to say it because like he felt that it

459
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: was like the right thing to say, Like he seems

460
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: like you actually affected by like Hannah being upset, and

461
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: I actually cared about her. So, now, what did we

462
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: think about the Chris Harrison chat in which she was like,

463
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Speaker 1: I really don't know if I'm going to find anything

464
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Speaker 1: through this. I don't know how people do. I think

465
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Speaker 1: she just panicked. I think she was like and that,

466
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Speaker 1: like she was like it was like week five or

467
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Speaker 1: week six, and she was like, yeah, we're done with

468
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: weeks six? Was that by definition? Yeah? So she was

469
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: episode six? She was just I think she was just

470
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: in the state where she's like, oh my gosh, like

471
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: I don't have fully developed relationships like any of these guys,

472
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: Like how am I supposed to get engaged in three

473
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: weeks and kind of like went into panic mode. I

474
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Speaker 1: think I have thoughts on this, remember this three or

475
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: four weeks, four weeks, we'll say, I remember sitting at

476
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: the same scenario, and there's some great people involved in

477
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: this process. But about week five or six, you still

478
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: have what I would call like some people that are

479
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: left over, not your top three, not the people you're

480
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: super interested in, and any relationship becomes very foggy because

481
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: the time with each person is still pretty short, and

482
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: so you're sitting there and all you can really do.

483
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard to compartmentalize each relationship at this

484
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: point because you don't have really in depth relationships. You

485
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: have some good moments with people, but yet you know

486
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: that even like, for example, the Garretts, I'm sure she

487
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: was in the garrett and then this week he you know,

488
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: goes and starts becoming a little boy, and she's like, well,

489
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: this ruin this relationship too. It's it's this week really

490
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: that is probably the hardest for any lead, because you

491
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: look around you like, everybody here is weird. Everybody here

492
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: is arguing, nobody's into me, nobody stands up of the crowd,

493
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: like everybody is in this fight. And then as time continues,

494
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: and maybe when she watches it back and she sees

495
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: the whole thing play out, she realizes that, yeah, the Peters,

496
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: the Tyler is, the Connors, they were never involved, and

497
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: that those guys that she ends up probably being most into,

498
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: and that we can kind of tell that she already

499
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: is pretty into actually, did you know, go above the

500
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: reproach and like make things happen? But I get it,

501
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: she's probably just overwhelmed. Did you have one of those

502
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: moments where you're like it might be really yeah, definitely. Yeah.

503
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: Here's the scenario. I was in the Bahamas. I was

504
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: on a group date. It was a pig date. We

505
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: left the pig date and I was sitting there and

506
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: one of the producers comes in. He's like, every woman

507
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: here is really upset with you because what happened was

508
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: they got to see you talk to other women in

509
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: front of them for the first time, and every woman

510
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: here feels like Leod outside, right, now and you've done

511
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: that because of how much affection or attention you showed

512
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: each person in front of the others, and now everybody

513
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: here wants to leave. And I was like, well that, yeah,

514
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you fix that? Like this was

515
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: the moment where I had this idea that yeah, this

516
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: was all done. I've messed up and there's no turning back.

517
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: I've ruined these relationships and as a as a result,

518
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: like this is gonna end in nothing good happening, Like

519
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: you feel like the whole thing is slipping out from

520
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: underneath you. I would just encourage her to say, give

521
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: it two more weeks, uh, continue to filter through some

522
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: of those guys that are just aren't really adding up

523
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: in her mind, and then then it will be a

524
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: brighter future. Here's the funny part about this thing, though,

525
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: and you mentioned it, and I think we should move

526
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: on to it. So really, what we've talked about in

527
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: this podcast so far, and I think we're doing a

528
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: fine job of breaking this down, is Luke p admits

529
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: that he isn't doing the right thing. Who knows why

530
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: he says it, if it's just to say it, or

531
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: if he really means it. The guys are still so

532
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: angry at luke P, and he's not going to fix that.

533
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: There's no forgiving luke P at this point. He's they

534
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: just hate him and he's a complete and complete isolation

535
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: from the group. And that's about all that's happened until

536
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: we move into this conversation with Chris Harrison and Hannah.

537
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: So we've skipped over forty five minutes of television with

538
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: really two points. Luke P admits he's he has failures,

539
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: Hannah keeps him around, and the guys hate him. And

540
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: now we go Chris Harrison Hannah for the breakdown to

541
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: where we want to find out where is she at

542
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 1: in her time as a bachelor atte we find out

543
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: she's not a great place. What's your response to that.

544
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: I think it kind of goes off what you were

545
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: just saying. She at this This is a weird point

546
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: of the competition quote quote where she hasn't had more

547
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: than she hasn't even had one on ones with all

548
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: of these guys and the guys that she really likes.

549
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: She's she hasn't even had a one on one with Peter,

550
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: which is crazy. So I think that but she's only

551
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: had like nine hours of quality time with the guys

552
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: that she likes, and you don't really you kind of

553
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: forget about that time when you are so overwhelmed with

554
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: the other drama, with the loop drama, and it was

555
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: like a couple of weeks ago, you know, like even

556
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: now in Scotland or in Latvia. Um, she's two weeks

557
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: removed from even her gate with Tyler C. So of

558
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: course she's not like Tyler is not like prominent in

559
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: her mind right now when the guys just keep bickering.

560
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: She's not like, oh remember that time in Newport where

561
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: I had such a great day with Tyler C. Like no,

562
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: she's just not thinking about that. Her mindsets totally whacked out.

563
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: And I think this Chris Harrison chat was just a

564
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: reset button for her. Yeah, I think she needed I

565
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: think Hannah is the person who's like whatever is right

566
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: in front of her is like her whole world, like

567
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: what's going on? So I think in this situation she

568
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: was just like I went into panic mode and was

569
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: like I'm done, I can't So I think she needed

570
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: the reset for sure. Totally all right, I am I

571
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: want to have a little girl chat, as we call

572
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: it on the show. Whenever you see like two people together,

573
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: um talking about a situation going on. We called a

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Speaker 1: girl chat or guy chat. So I'm gonna have a

575
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Speaker 1: little girl chat with how The in just one minute.

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578
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579
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580
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581
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582
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,640
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583
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Speaker 1: time with Heather now because we don't have to talk

616
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: to Ben about you know, you're kissing history. You know,

617
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: the whole world already really knows about it at this point. Yeah.

618
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: So you had your first kiss with Colton Underwood just

619
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Speaker 1: a matter of like nine months ago. I guess, like,

620
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: have you kissed another guy since I haven't, Alright, so

621
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: we don't know whether or not you'll be getting a

622
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: kiss in Paradise. We can only hope. But let's go

623
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: through Hannah's group of guys and the kind of chemistry

624
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: that they have together because you're you know, you know

625
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: what you're doing now. I know, I'm an ex. So yeah,

626
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: and you had a really good first kiss. It was like,

627
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: it was the easiest first kiss I've ever seen. I

628
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: didn't cringe with awkwardness at all, no wincing. It was great.

629
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Speaker 1: That's what I was terrified of, So thank you. Oh

630
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: it was treasure. Okay, So the kisses that are standing

631
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: out to me right now are jed because she straddled

632
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: him last week. Yeah, that's um. Then we had Tyler

633
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: c where she said I have something for you and

634
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: then pushed him onto the bed. What is that? What

635
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: does she have? Okay, I know I loved that. My

636
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: sister is like seventies and um. And then there was

637
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: the kind of sort of romantic, innocent, a little messed

638
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: up kiss with Peter on the pool table. I thought

639
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: it was adorable. That was my favorite one. It was. Okay,

640
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: So of those three, which one do you think has

641
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: the best kiss chemistry? Is the Peter one, the one

642
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: that you would have wanted the most? Which one was

643
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: the hottest though? To watch? I think the hottest watch.

644
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: I think probably the Tyler one. Yeah, I agree. That

645
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: just seemed like the most like it was the most

646
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: into him, like she was one initiating it. It was

647
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: on a bed. I mean, yeah, I think that was

648
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: definitely I agree. And then in the teaser, the super teaser,

649
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: which is really the best part to come out of

650
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: yesterday's episode. It was so good, so much to analyze.

651
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: We'll get to that soon. But the best, the best

652
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: part to the most steamy part to me was when

653
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: she was on that massage table with Tyler, and then

654
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: right into that when we went into that whole like

655
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: sex chat where she was she said the thing about

656
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: sex between a merrit and a marriage, and then with

657
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: you know that Jesus still loves her. But then we

658
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: had the bombshell, which was the Luke p he wants

659
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: to keep the marriage bed pure and he said he

660
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: was going to leave if Yeah, so I have this

661
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: big theory. Maybe we should get to it in a

662
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: little bit, but I do feel like if any makeout

663
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: leads to more, it's gonna be that Tyler see one

664
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: in the massage room. Do you think like not doing

665
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: fantasy states, Yeah, I'm thinking should could full Caitlin. Well,

666
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: if um, that conversation between Hannah and and Luke happens

667
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: before fantasy suites, like a date before they go into

668
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: the fantasy suite, then that would mean that one he

669
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: got really far and true. So there's that that's true.

670
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: So there's that. So that if you're saying that it

671
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: has sex happens after or in a fantasy suite, then

672
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: it's either it's yeah, Luke gets really far exactly Luke,

673
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: it's really far, or before I didn't even think possibility

674
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: of before. I think it was in my mind only

675
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: went to fantasis me too. I guess that Tyler gets

676
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: that far then, which is freakish. Who knows? Yeah, okay, well,

677
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean but if I think she sleeps with anyone before,

678
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: I think you would be Tyler Tyler. But these are

679
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: all assumptions and I don't want to like make these

680
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: inferences that just absolutely may not be true. But then

681
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: she goes, I did have sex, Yeah, but you have?

682
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: Did you think she was talking about like? I didn't

683
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: think she's talking about on the show. I think she's

684
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: only talking about on the show. I was thinking. My

685
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: perception was because like with Colton, she told him like,

686
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: I've had sex before, but a new wait for my

687
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: husband the next person, so I was thinking that she

688
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: was referring to that. Do you think she really said

689
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: that she was going to wait for her husband? Did

690
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: she say that she said, oh she did see there

691
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: she wanted to. I don't know. I think I know.

692
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: I thought throughout the entire season that that teaser meant

693
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: that she's, you know, done it before, But last night's

694
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: specific teaser her tone was like, well, guess what, I've

695
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: already done it that's how I interpreted that. Okay, well,

696
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: since we're already since we're already talking deep in breaking

697
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: down the trailer as mine as well, like I'll give

698
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: you my whole thoughts. Okay. I do think that that

699
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: Luke gets to fantasy suitets I guess based on the trailer,

700
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: and that this conversation that she has with him about

701
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: the pure marriage bad just like kind of weird to say.

702
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: I feel like she's probably referring to having a previous

703
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: fantasy suite with some other guy in which she did

704
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: sleep with him, because Luke is basically saying right now,

705
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: I you bet or not have slept with anyone else

706
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: so far. He's like, I think the thing that bothered

707
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: me about that is like he can have his opinion

708
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: that like he wants to wait to marriage whatever. Think

709
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: there's a thing wrong with that. I think it's what

710
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: bothered her, And what is bad about that is that

711
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: he was like trying to control her and she was

712
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: just like that's why she freaked out, right, yeah, oh yeah, absolutely,

713
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: Like not the fact that he has that opinion. I

714
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: think she likes that, but I think she was actually

715
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: attracted to that about him. I think it's when he

716
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: started to like control her and then nothing she said that,

717
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: I think because she must have been like, oh, sorry

718
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: to tell you, and just not exactly how it's gone down.

719
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: And then after hearing that he that she did sleep

720
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: with somebody else, he lost it because it's a competition

721
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: thing with him, it could be a religious thing with him,

722
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: and it's definitely, as you say, a control thing. So

723
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: hearing that, I think his mind was blown. He reacted

724
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: without giving himself any self control and called her a

725
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: slight jimming names. So you think that she freaked out

726
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: after he got mad, rather than like just him saying like, oh,

727
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like that you did that. You

728
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: think he got mad because she said something like, oh,

729
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: actually I alreadys left to someone here. It's the only

730
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: thing in which I can see that conversation about the

731
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: marriage bed leading to something that she says she can't

732
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: believe she was called. Oh I didn't think because she said,

733
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: I can't believe like anybody called me that. And it's

734
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: all in the same jacket. We all we'd like to

735
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: think it's the same night, right, But there were some

736
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: things in Colton supertees Is that definitely were just filmed

737
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: for the sake of the super tease. Yeah, so maybe

738
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: she had to put that jacket back on and say something,

739
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: but like, mostly she was like heated. She was like,

740
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't feel like she's not an actress, not at all,

741
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: Like she had nothing in her an ac right. She

742
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: was like in most of those clips I saw like

743
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: she was fully like enraged. So so, Ben, what what

744
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 1: do you think about this guy who's there and ready

745
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: to propose. It doesn't seem like it's going to be

746
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: one of her top two guys because she wouldn't respond

747
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: so emotionally if it was. She would just be expecting that. Yeah,

748
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: my honest thoughts. Or you never want to see the

749
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: face that she made when you tell somebody that she's

750
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: getting ready to be proposed to, or that you love her.

751
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: I have a girl or a guy ever looks at

752
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: you the way Hannah did when you're like, hey, I

753
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: love you, It's not gonna work. Here's here'll be a

754
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: fun quiz. Anybody out there listening, who do you think

755
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: it is? Email us that Ben and Ashley I heart

756
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: me dot com on Twitter hashtag almost Famous podcast. Who

757
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: do you think it could have been? I have I

758
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: have two theories. After Heather, I can only think Luke like, okay,

759
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: I can only think that's my one theory. So like

760
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: Luke was eliminated, said something awful, probably as him, and

761
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: comment comes back the week later and he's like, I

762
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: take it back with a horrible thing for me to

763
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: say our marriage bed doesn't have to be here and

764
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm here with the ring and she's probably like, oh

765
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: my god, I have a psycho stalker. My other theory

766
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: is that possibly could be a guy from home from

767
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: her past and he's been so overwhelmed with her being

768
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: the bachelorette and he regrets all of his life decisions

769
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: and is here to propose. Or it could just be

770
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: like a crazy stalker dead what about you. I hope

771
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 1: it isn't somebody from home, because there's only one theory

772
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: i'd have there, that guy saw an opportunity be on

773
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: national television, he took it. Yeah, that happened with Becca

774
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: on our season. Yeah, I wouldn't be okay with that.

775
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: You'd hear on this podcast say that's absolutely ridiculous. That

776
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: is incredibly destructive and in a moment that should she

777
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: should be celebrating some loser from home decides to get

778
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: on national TV. I think that I would be. I

779
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: don't know if that's true. Not. The second is, I

780
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: don't think it's Luke p you. I actually have this

781
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: weird sense that it's Jet Like. I think that he

782
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: at the end of this ends up getting so tied

783
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: up and Hannah that I feel like he might break.

784
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 1: I don't know why. It's just a theory. I see

785
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: it in him already, right, He's he's very attached to Hannah.

786
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: He really likes Hannah. Um he is. You know, he

787
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: came here for the wrong reasons and she's turned them

788
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: to be the right reasons. And I have a feeling

789
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: that her heart at the end of this whole thing

790
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: starts leaning in a way away from him, and that

791
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: he reacts. Do you think elis him and then he

792
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: comes back? Yeah? Is he elimited or has he leave

793
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: on his own? Okay, let's keep names out of it

794
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: for a second, because I don't know if that's helpful,

795
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: because we could say, really, any one of these guys

796
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: could be that guy. I think my theory is it

797
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: is somebody that's been eliminated that comes back into it.

798
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: I don't think it's somebody that's still there. But then

799
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: he's here and he's ready to propose, Like, well, she

800
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: sent him home, she didn't want to get proposed by him. Yeah,

801
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you can't that that doesn't work

802
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: with Hannah. I don't think we can because luke P

803
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: was sent home and he came back and it worked.

804
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: So he's following in luke P's footsteps. Whoever this is,

805
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: perhaps it's Luke I think she kind of likes it

806
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: a little bit like the chase coming after her. Well,

807
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: she does like a guy that really pursues. She doesn't

808
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: like hard to get no, which, yeah, that's somebody that

809
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: that has been eliminated that comes back in. No, guys,

810
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: I want us to get serious for a second because

811
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna walk on some fragile topics. Are we going

812
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: to talk about the marriage bed? Because I do want

813
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: your We we've already talked a little bit about the

814
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: marriage bed, but I kind of wanted your input because

815
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, you really wanted to. I wanted to lead

816
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: us through a conversation and and honestly ask our listeners

817
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: to feed in their thoughts because this was first bread

818
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: up um in my from my time watching the show

819
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: with Caitlin Bristow. This is a hot topic with Aitlan, right. Uh,

820
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: not maybe the marriage bed, but the fact that she

821
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: had um sex on the show. She didn't hide it

822
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: before the Fantasy Suite. She didn't hide it. Um. She

823
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: was not ashamed of it. Uh. And people did, They

824
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: slept shamed her. I remember at her tell, all all

825
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: of the like magazines and all the comments and on

826
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: Twitter were flashed up on the screen and she had

827
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: to sit there and read them. We weren't nice and pretty. Now, granted,

828
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: we we are at a time where I think this

829
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: conversation is happening all all the time, right for men

830
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: and women and how we treat each other and and

831
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: how we respect each other and understand where each other

832
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: are at. Uh, not only uh morally and and our values,

833
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: but also just how we view um sex and relationships. Well,

834
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: Hannah is sitting here, right, and let's assume, right, because

835
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: we still don't have a clear idea. Let's assume what

836
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: happened was that Hannah had sex before with with somebody

837
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: or multiple people before the Fantasy Suite, because we see glimpses,

838
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: but the the teaser could mean a thousand different things.

839
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: But that's the scenario playing out here that we think

840
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: that's what's happened. And luke P is sitting there saying,

841
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: my thoughts on marriage are that the marriage bed needs

842
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: to be pure. Well, two things here, and I'm gonna

843
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: go off for a little bit and uh and hopefully

844
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: this all makes sense at the end. One thing is

845
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: that one thing I've learned in life, and I was

846
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: famous on on My Bachelor for season for saying, well, no,

847
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't a virgin, um that my marriage bed wasn't

848
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: gonna be pure. Whatever he's trying to get at, luke

849
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: P started this whole season off by saying he had

850
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: so much sex in college that in the shower one

851
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: day everything changed. He I think that, you know, whatever

852
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: his his conviction has turned into, we want to respect

853
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: that equally as well. We don't want to shame him

854
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: for not having sex, but we also want him to

855
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: understand and be empathetic towards the situation that he has

856
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: had sex in his life as well. Next is his

857
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: expectation right now with Hannah, And I think this was

858
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: perfect for what she said. He he doesn't have anything

859
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: on her. They're not in an agreement like they haven't

860
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: discussed this as a couple. They haven't figured out what

861
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: each which each other need, like she owes him nothing.

862
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: They aren't in a committed relationship. She's exploring these relationships.

863
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: He knows that there's other cup relationships going on. He

864
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: really has nothing to say when it comes to who

865
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: she sleeps with and who she kisses and how she

866
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: dates right now because they're not in a committed relationship. Now,

867
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: I do want to get on Luke side for one second,

868
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: any luve is. I think one fair conversation he could

869
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: have had with Hannah would have said, Hey, I love you,

870
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: I want to see this thing work. Now, what are

871
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: you comfortable with from here on out pursuing and and

872
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: are you comfortable being intimate with people knowing that at

873
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: the end we could be engaged like that is a fair,

874
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: healthy conversation for a couple have not an easy one,

875
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: but I think talking about what your expectations are physically

876
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: and communicating those openly is howful for any couple, even

877
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: if it's a hard conversation, and even if you disagree. Couples,

878
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: no matter if you're in a committed relationship, a marriage,

879
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: or you just start dating, having those open that open

880
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: dialogue about what you're comfortable with physically is important. It

881
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: needs to get people on the same page. What he

882
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: did where he was completely wrong is he talked down

883
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: to her. He talked to her like, this is my

884
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: expectation and you're gonna obey. It wasn't It wasn't a

885
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: conversation to be had. It was a decision that he

886
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: made on an It was a decision that he made

887
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: that he was going to force her into and that

888
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: is completely wrong. And then I love do you think

889
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: that she was like, oh, but it's too late for that,

890
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: because you think this ye already's left with somebody before

891
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: that conversation, which would allude to Luke possibly being in

892
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: the top three by all like regular standards of how

893
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: this show goes, you know, Hometown's four top three fantasy suites. Um,

894
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how soon this is. I don't think

895
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: it's that far off from now. I don't think it's

896
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: anywhere close to fantasy sweeps. I think, yeah, I think

897
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: it's soon. I think she's intimate with somebody or maybe

898
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: multiple people, and then this conversation happens and she's like, well, one, Luke,

899
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: I owe you nothing too don't shame me because all

900
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: he did and this is this is a big mistake

901
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: by men uh in the past and also just recouples

902
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: in general. What he did is he forced her to

903
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: feel shame. That is completely wrong at any level in

904
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: any relationship. Her only response was to feel shameful or

905
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: to stand up and complete protection of who she was.

906
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: There was no dialogue to allow her to empathetically or

907
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: or calmly walked back into the conversation she had. He

908
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: had put her in a corner and she had to

909
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: respond with some type of force or like was some

910
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: type of of bigger and she did, and I think

911
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: she said it great's she said, Hey, Luke, I have

912
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: had sex with somebody and Jesus still loves me, so

913
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: don't leave. Use again. Jesus is a weapon here to

914
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: put me into your little corner, into your little box,

915
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: into what you think is right and wrong, because quite honestly,

916
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: we ain't there yet. Boy, we haven't talked about this.

917
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: You owe me. I owe you nothing except to continue

918
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: to pursue this relationship. And I think this is a

919
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: good lesson and one that I hope cultivates conversation from

920
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: here on out. Is no matter what your moral standing

921
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: is and your values are at have a conversation, don't demand. Hey, Ben,

922
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: I have a question. Do you think that he was

923
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: saying it out of his true religious feelings or do

924
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: you think that he was saying it as a way

925
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: to control her activity with other guys both? Yeah, you know,

926
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: we want to be protective of loop here. Um. If

927
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: you notice on this podcast, we don't want to bash

928
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: the dude. It's been too much bashing. I mean this

929
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: guy literally Again Twitter this week the headline is nobody

930
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: leaves lukep needs a second chance like believe it or not,

931
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: like like the guy or not. He has had a

932
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: terrible time on the show, the worst yet. Chris Harrison

933
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: came out this week and said that this villain has

934
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: taken up the most time and been and been the

935
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: most focused on villain ever. Like this guy, like he

936
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: this is a part of his identity now for a

937
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: long time. Like I don't want to add to it

938
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: the truth, I get it, Like we can. We can

939
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: be unhappy with him, but we've everybody knows where each

940
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: other stand on. Look, Pete, there's very few Luke pe

941
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: supporters out there. The truth is when you come at

942
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: a conversation like that, it's manipulation, like you're trying to

943
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: get somebody to do something for you. There is no

944
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: open dialogue to say, hey, sorry, or hey I don't

945
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: have anything to apologize for, but I still want to

946
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: pursue a relationship with you. Are you okay with that?

947
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: He forced her into a scenario where she was going

948
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: to feel some type of guilt, even if she didn't

949
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: really feel any guilt at all for what she did.

950
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he was saying it not only

951
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 1: communicate what he was feeling, but also to control situation,

952
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: which I'm never okay with. Lucas still in the running

953
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: to you know, win Hannah's heart. As silly as that

954
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: seems to so many of us, but the guys who

955
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: have already been eliminated, a couple of them are appearing

956
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: in the Bachelor in Paradise cast, and we're going to

957
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: break that juicy cast down in just one minute. Heather, Um,

958
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959
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960
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,719
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961
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,919
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962
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,040
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963
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: almost forgot. She's not even saying this, you guys, because

964
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: we're about to go into the Rathy's ad. I see

965
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,640
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966
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,439
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967
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971
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,600
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972
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,480
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973
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,560
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974
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,239
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975
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,360
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976
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982
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984
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Speaker 1: quite honestly, I ain't looking for a better job. I

1042
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: like my job. My job with you too, It's pretty awesome.

1043
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't really ask for anything more. Um, Heather, we're

1044
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: entering to our final segment of this this podcast, and

1045
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: we're looking at these pictures that were released with the

1046
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise castes today. We don't see you in them.

1047
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: I know you can't confirm or deny if you were

1048
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: part of this season. I also don't see your your

1049
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: friend Kerpa. Yeah, just interesting. I do see Analyze Puccini

1050
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: here for her second straight summer in Paradise. I think

1051
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: everybody hopes that Analyize has a redemption story because she

1052
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: got screwed last year. Everybody's always rooting on Bibiana. Um.

1053
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: This will be her fourth appearance on a Bachelor franchise show,

1054
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: as she's another one that has seemed to not be

1055
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: very lucky in love, seems to be eliminated always too

1056
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: early than we want her to be. So our thoughts

1057
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: are with Bibby in this in this Bachelor Paradise journey.

1058
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: But like Hurtzman, we knew that he would be there.

1059
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: He was going to be the Bachelor in Paradise as

1060
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: many thought should be interesting how his storyline unfolds. I

1061
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: I hear rumors on the internet about him possibly messing

1062
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: up here or there because they are in the depths

1063
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: of filming right now, Caitlin seemed to be like a guarantee. Um,

1064
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: how do you think Caitlin is gonna fair in Paradise?

1065
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: I think she'll do good. I mean I think there

1066
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: would be quite a few guys interested in Caitlin's I mean,

1067
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: I think if I were a guy, I'd probably be

1068
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: interested in Kylin. I think she's so pretty. Cam, who

1069
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 1: was eliminated week three for um, just being a little

1070
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: clingy in Hanna season, will be there the first week

1071
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: in the original cast. Would you ever be interested in Cam? No?

1072
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: Why is that? Yeah? No? And think so No. Well,

1073
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: on Yaka, who is actually good friends with Cam in

1074
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: real life, will also be there. Do you think she's

1075
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: gonna stir some stir up? Probably? I don't know. I

1076
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: feel like on Yka maybe just did it in the beginning,

1077
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: and I think she might hold back a little bit more.

1078
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: I think that's what feeling is. Ben. Are you shocked

1079
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: to see Chris Bukowski, who apparently or not apparently just

1080
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: straight up retired from the Bachelor franchise on After Paradise

1081
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: season two to be back for his sixth appearance on

1082
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: one of the shows. That being said, he hasn't been

1083
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: an official cast number six times, but he has made

1084
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: six appearance. Who is he's from Emily Maynard season? He

1085
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: got fourth Emily season. How long ago Emily Maynard season?

1086
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: But that was season eight of The Bachelorette, So it

1087
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: was two thousand. I feel like it was two thousand

1088
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: eleven or twelve. That's insane. Um. I'm not shocked because

1089
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to get out of this world

1090
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 1: unless you're really desiring too. And you could even tell

1091
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: he was sad to leave when he retired. The question

1092
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: is how old is he? You know what he's think

1093
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: he's younger than you think, because he was younger than

1094
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: Emily on her season. I think he was twenty six

1095
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: on her season. I think she was seven or she

1096
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: was twenty six and he was twenty five something like that.

1097
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: So I think Chris grew house. Chris Bukowski's age will

1098
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: surprise you. I think he's only a year or two

1099
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 1: older than us. Ben. Yeah, so like at that point,

1100
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: why not? I mean, yeah, he's given a lot of

1101
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: shots but he's young, he's single. Like, I don't blame

1102
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: anybody for continue to see if this thing works. We

1103
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: we've seen it year every year, every year, Like people

1104
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: continue to find love on this show. And if you're

1105
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: single and you're out in the world, take some intentional

1106
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: time to try to go date. I think it's crazy.

1107
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: I think it's shocking to see him there. I can't

1108
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,479
Speaker 1: believe he's doing it, But honestly, I kind of feel

1109
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: like a little bit of a good for him. How

1110
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: amazing would it be if after this sixth trial run

1111
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: he finds somebody and gets engaged at the end of it.

1112
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: I would love it. When do we want to celebrate

1113
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: that isn't what these shows are about, is to continue

1114
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: to see the cast that we fall in love with

1115
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: and that we've rooted for complete their love story. So

1116
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: I would be all for it. I'd be super amazing.

1117
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: We also see on this list list Derek Peth, who

1118
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: swore to us Okay, maybe that's swore, but promise when

1119
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: we were on the Napa Valley Train just about six

1120
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: seven weeks ago that he was not going to do Paradise.

1121
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: He was like, oh no, no. If they've asked me him,

1122
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: not gonna do it, not doing it? Oh he's there.

1123
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: I can't say no. Clay Harbor is on the list,

1124
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: and he, we know, dated Angela this year. We never

1125
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: officially got like the breakup Instagram like we're sorry to

1126
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: inform you that we have ended our relationship as friends.

1127
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: I have feeling Angela and Clay didn't end their relationship

1128
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: as friends. So Dee, I have to both be there,

1129
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, if if he's agreed, I

1130
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: bet Angela will agree. We have to see him both

1131
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: in Paradise, and there's no way the show let's a

1132
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: story like that not be displayed on TV. So yeah,

1133
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: they're both gonna be there. Who else is going to

1134
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: be there? Give us the rest of the rundown? Then

1135
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: I think Demi will be a big storyline for us.

1136
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: We're excited about Demmy. We loved Emmy here on the podcast.

1137
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: She's came on a couple of times, obviously. Hannah Gee,

1138
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: Hannah Gee is one of our favorites. Uh, she's captivated

1139
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: both Ashley and I remember the night we did the

1140
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: interview with her, and Nash and I were both like, dang,

1141
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: like we really liked that girl. Picture of her like,

1142
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: could she be cute? So perfect? Yeah, it's just a cute,

1143
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: nice human and so we're a big fan of her.

1144
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: Jpja from Cold Season, I don't remember her. She made

1145
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: a big hissy fit on after I mean the Women

1146
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: Tell All because she wanted to be on Paradise obviously,

1147
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: so she really spoke up and she defended Kalin. So

1148
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: we see her in the original cast. But yeah, JPJ,

1149
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: what do you think is he gonna be Ah, he's

1150
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: gonna stick around longer here than he did with Hannah season.

1151
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: I want to know who he like. I want to

1152
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: know who JPJ is, right, I did a little background

1153
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: on him. He grew up in Wisconsin and he now

1154
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: lives in Virginia and her Maryland, and he talks like

1155
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: a surfer like, he feels like he has a West

1156
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: Coast vibe, So like, who is JPJ? Do you find

1157
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: JPJ attractive? Not my type? Really? I think he's beautiful,

1158
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: not stereotypically my type, but I think he looks like

1159
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: really very modelesque, very prince prince like. Yeah, I don't know,

1160
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: not not my type, but I think he seems really

1161
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: nice and fun. I just haven't seen a conversation with him.

1162
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: Yet have we seen one. No, We've just seen like exclamations.

1163
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, I don't know. I think him

1164
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: and Nicole can be a thing. All right. So Nicole

1165
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: is on here. If you guys remember Nicole, she was

1166
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: known for being pretty emotional on Holton season, always having

1167
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: like one tear falling from her eye. Then there's Katie Morton,

1168
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: who's stunning and I think everybody loves Katie beautiful. Finally, um,

1169
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: there's a bunch you know. We have Kevin, we have

1170
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: Nicole and yaka Um. And then there's Will's read who

1171
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: has always been a kind of a surprise for us.

1172
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: He's a fan favorite. Uh, we want to get to

1173
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: know him a little bit better. Last year in Paradise,

1174
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: it didn't last long. But then there's two women that

1175
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: I think we love on the podcast that I think

1176
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: will shock everybody and not how they caused drama mixed

1177
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: things up, but how likable they are on Paradise. And

1178
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: that's Sydney and Tasha. Those two right there. I believe

1179
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: will be too of our favorites as we watch this season,

1180
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: and mostly favorites just from like the pure hope that

1181
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: we have that they find love and if you remember correctly,

1182
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: Will's seemed to elude when he was on our podcast

1183
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: about Katie being his crush. M hmm. What So to

1184
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: end this podcast today, I want to ask you guys

1185
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: a few questions. One going back to Hannah's season, because

1186
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: it's going to tie into Paradise a little bit. Who

1187
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: is your top three guys left? My top three guys

1188
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: has not changed from last week. It would be Jed,

1189
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: Tyler and Peter. Is that your state? Definitely mine? Here's

1190
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 1: a surprising one to me now, Grant got sent home.

1191
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: Don't know why he's married? Favorite? He loves Grant, Yeah, exactly.

1192
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: That's why we love him because he's a silent but

1193
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: deadly type, good looking man, Harry chest. You can tell

1194
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: he gives it a perfect line right above his neck

1195
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: al right below his neckline. Um, solid gentleman, doesn't have

1196
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: a job to never cause controversy, solid beer drinker like

1197
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: the guy has it going on. And somehow he got

1198
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: sent home. So I have to change my top three? Yes,

1199
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: and this is everybody's top three? Connor? How is Connor

1200
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: not every girl's top three? The dude is beautiful, he's tall,

1201
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: he's strong, he's patient, he's gotten messed over a few

1202
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: times on this show. So I'm gonna say, Tyler, Connor

1203
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: and Pete, why do you know why Connor is not

1204
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: in my top three? He's very handsome, He's just like

1205
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: perfect Abercromie look right, but he is he screams boy

1206
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: to me, that is not a full grown man. And

1207
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: I do think that the three that we are mentioning

1208
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 1: are far carry themselves more like men. Cool. I think

1209
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: she's more into the other three. You can just tell, ye,

1210
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: but I think it's because she's sensing Connor's boyishnist too. Yeah,

1211
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: and he's really young too. Is he's twenty four or something?

1212
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I know she's twenty four, but I

1213
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: think she just wants somebody older or at least feels older.

1214
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: She does come off a little older than than twenty four.

1215
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: So just with her confidence and maturity, well, that's our

1216
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: top Three's Heather, you have the same as Ashley. I

1217
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: have a little bit of a different mix up. That's

1218
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: moving on. Grant rest in peace, buddy. We love you

1219
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: better being Paradise. If you're not so upset, it will

1220
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: be so sad to me if I cannot see a

1221
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: little bit more grant in my life. Hey, final question

1222
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: for you all, uh, two storylines that if you had

1223
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: no idea of what was actually happening and you had

1224
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: no clue of what's going on, two storylines you're most

1225
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: interested in Paradise um who Hannah gy ends up with

1226
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: and probably who John Paul Jones owns up with. I

1227
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: was gonna say, John Paul Jones for sure is my

1228
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: top and I want I want to see Tashah and

1229
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: Tasha too. I'm very curious. I feel like Tasha is

1230
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: not gonna there's not gonna be like any drama with her.

1231
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: She's gonna find her person and cruise unless one comes

1232
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: at her. Like Tassia is not afraid to stand up

1233
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: for herself, but she's not going to go out of

1234
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: her way. I wanted to find someone. So those two

1235
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: for me. There you go. That's it. Hey, if you

1236
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: have some shorelines you're excited about in Bachroom Paradise, please

1237
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: email us at Ben and Ashley at I heart media comment.

1238
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: I want a breaking news what alright? Did we just

1239
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: got breaking news on our phone? My phone? All right?

1240
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: What's on your phone too? People? Magazine exclusive? This is

1241
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: not a less This is not a less reliable magazine.

1242
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: This is not a tabloid. It is people magazine is

1243
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: reporting that Jed's x so that they were dating when

1244
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: he went on the show, and she feels one betray it. No,

1245
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: this is terrible. This is part of the the co

1246
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: headline that the subline is the hardest part is that

1247
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: he ghosted me, he tells people exclusively. Should I just

1248
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: read it? Uh? Read a couple of quotes the other quote. Actually,

1249
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: I want you, as I'm reading this one quote, to

1250
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: scroll through and pick out a few of the key

1251
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: points it says. One of the quotes in here says,

1252
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 1: we spent the night together the night before he headed

1253
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: He told me the show was just an obstacle and

1254
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 1: we be stronger on the other side because of it.

1255
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: This is just like the guy from Night one. But

1256
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: it's not that that not so great guy from Night one.

1257
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: It's Jed. Jim. Never get this, Actually, time out, I

1258
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: never do this. Okay, I'm right. I told you Jed

1259
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: had something up asleep, and that was before I am right.

1260
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: You knew it that guy had something going on. He

1261
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: told me early on that he applied said his ax.

1262
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: He said it's probably not going to happen, but it's

1263
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: a huge opportunity, and I'm only doing this for music.

1264
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 1: He said he was only doing it for his career,

1265
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: which is actually what he told Hannah, And we appreciated

1266
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: that he was so upfront, up front about that with Hannah.

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01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: But now that he has a girlfriend back home, do

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Speaker 1: you think it's real for sure? Oh? Yeah, I don't know.

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01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read this last statement magazine. We're gonna tell

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01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 1: everybody to make sure you go out and read. It's

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01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: on People, so and People is usually very trusted. This

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01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: is a crazy little statement. The paragraph starts with, like

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01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 1: all contestants, why I had to surrender his phone during filming?

1274
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: So Stevens, his ex or his girlfriend at the time,

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01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 1: had no idea what was happening and grew increasingly anxious.

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01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,759
Speaker 1: Her quote is I was falling along on spoiler accounts,

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01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: trying to figure out when my boyfriend was going to

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01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: come home. She said, I bought a home coming out

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01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: it that I was going to maybe pick him up

1280
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: with at in at the airport. But as the series progressed,

1281
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: I was terrified that it would fall in love with Hannah.

1282
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: She says, in the beginning, I felt bad watching the

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01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,799
Speaker 1: show because I thought he loved me and was faking

1284
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: dating for her. But then I thought my boyfriend could

1285
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: be engaged this someone else. Now, wait a second, did

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01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: she pick him up at the airport in an outfit?

1287
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: If she's watching the show back? Does she? Is she

1288
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: still in contact with him? We're not getting like their

1289
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: actual Uh? Well, he said she didn't just say ghosted.

1290
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 1: Her says uh. When Wyatt got home, he never returned

1291
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: her calls, never confronted her, never called, or never explained

1292
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: himself until they ran into each other at a music

1293
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: venue this month, and he said, Hey, how you've been?

1294
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: And I said, how do you think I've been? She recalls.

1295
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: I asked him, you didn't think I deserved a phone call?

1296
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: And he said, I didn't know what to say. They

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01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 1: never spoke again about their relationship. It says that they

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01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: met last October in Nashville, State in a relationship. Even

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: after he got the official phone call in February to

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01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: join the cast. The two took a romantic trip to

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01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: the Bahamas, where they said I love you for the

1302
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 1: first time, and he called me when he landed in

1303
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: l A to take part in filming, and he said

1304
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: I love you, I'll call you when I get back.

1305
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 1: I love you, and then I this is this is

1306
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: a little juicy tidbit as well. He wanted a platform.

1307
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: He kept telling me I don't want my dad to

1308
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: have to help pay for my rent anymore. He said

1309
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: he wanted to be top five, to be a major player,

1310
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: so that would be beneficial. Oh okay, well team Tyler

1311
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 1: for me. I guess Hey, yeah, hey guys, how's your

1312
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: top three looking? So? I really like Conor. I love

1313
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: his boyishness of growing you find. Man, this podcast just

1314
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: feeling so right right now. I'm so glad we got

1315
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,799
Speaker 1: that tax before we literally just said I've been Ashley.

1316
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: Oh hey, Heather fall along with us here. This podcast

1317
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: went from being one that I didn't know what we

1318
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: talked about because the episode really wasn't that great and

1319
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: just kind of dragged along the one that was absolutely

1320
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: freaking fantastic. Man, I'm feeling good about this podcast. It

1321
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: was one that we didn't know what we're going to

1322
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: talk about, uh, but luckily it ended up being one

1323
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: of the most news were the most breakings. I mean,

1324
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,520
Speaker 1: thank you Lauren and Chris and thank you People Magazine

1325
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 1: and Jed for coming out with these stories because it

1326
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: made for a podcast to remember. Speaking of podcast to remember,

1327
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: I already continues to pump out some awesome content and

1328
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: we love to know what men think. We just talked

1329
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: about the podcast with Luke. What does it mean when

1330
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: a man has uh something to communicate that's difficult. What

1331
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: does it mean when a man struggling, uh, maybe with

1332
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: the rectile this function? What does it mean, uh, when

1333
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: you find your kids looking at porn? Well, these are

1334
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: all the topics that this next podcast is gonna be

1335
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: talking about. We do an interview with Brooks Like you

1336
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: might know him from playing hockey, you might know him

1337
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,560
Speaker 1: from being Julianne Huff's husband. Well, he is starting a

1338
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: podcast with I Heart Radio and Gavin DeGraw that will

1339
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: answer some of the questions about what men are thinking.

1340
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 1: It's built for men and women. Here's the interview. Take

1341
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: a listen. I Heart continues to do exciting things. Actually,

1342
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: and I always love to support my Heart and anything

1343
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 1: that's joining our podcast team. Actually, isn't it a wild

1344
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: to think that we were the very first? Yeah, that's

1345
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: what I was thinking. There's very few things in life

1346
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: I can take pride in and go we started this,

1347
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: we started any questionable like okay, no, we started UM

1348
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: and we have new members of our team, and I

1349
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: want to introduce you. We're starting starting a podcast called

1350
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: How Men Think That? Do you like that? Yes? I

1351
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be helpful. Jared will listen to this podcast. Yeah. Well,

1352
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 1: I've always thought that this is like needs to be

1353
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 1: happening more in the world, like Steve Harvey will have

1354
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: a panel every now and then, you know, like all

1355
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: the talk shows. But I'd love a podcast you just

1356
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: tune in to hear men's interpretations of female and male interactions.

1357
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: And it's actually going to be intelligent, which is surprising. Uh.

1358
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 1: Speaking of intelligence, Yeah, we have Brooks Like and Gavin Degral.

1359
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: Devin Gavin Degral is flying in, but the host of

1360
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 1: the podcast, Brooks Like and Gavin DeGraw Brooks is here

1361
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: in studio. Brooks, what do you think of this deal? Man?

1362
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm excited, um one, and I feel like I have

1363
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: a lot to say. But the other gentleman too that

1364
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna have conversations with um it's gonna be entertaining.

1365
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: But we also want to do a value for men

1366
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: that are listening. We want to um, provide insight to

1367
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: some of the problems, some of the issues that men

1368
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: maybe deal with, and also for women. We want to

1369
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: make it an open forum for women to get a

1370
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 1: little insight to a man's brain. Every girl wants the code.

1371
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: It's not going to be vice versa. We're just more

1372
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: outspoken about it. But like guys want to crack the

1373
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: woman code to that's true. Um, it's probably not all

1374
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 1: gonna be everything you want to hear. UM, it's gonna

1375
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 1: be raw, it's gonna be honest. There's gonna be a

1376
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: lot of We're gonna go into some areas. UM. I'm

1377
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: gonna ask the guys to be vulnerable and share things

1378
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: in their life. It's not gonna be fluff. UM. So

1379
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: that's kind of our commitment to our listeners is we're

1380
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 1: going to dive into this. We want to be authentic

1381
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: and real and genuine. Um, but we also want to

1382
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,799
Speaker 1: have some fun with it. So you have some noble

1383
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: men that are teaming up with you, and they're sitting

1384
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 1: around the table right now. As I mentioned, Gavin DeGraw

1385
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: is not here with us. We obviously know Gavin uh

1386
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: from the music he plays and and Brooks, do you

1387
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: know Gavin personally. My wife knows him. UM, my brother

1388
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: in law's girlfriend knows him. He's been on Dancing with

1389
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 1: the Stars, which is a lot of my family now,

1390
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: from my wife and my brother in law, um, and

1391
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: everybody raves about him, which I absolutely love hearing. So

1392
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: let's go around the table for a second and let

1393
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: these noblemen introduce themselves one a time. I think, name

1394
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,560
Speaker 1: what you bring to the table and maybe what you

1395
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 1: do for a career that offers some insight into this podcast.

1396
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: Right now, we have three other co hosts in the room. Well,

1397
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm Debatrie pappas Um. I'll tell you I've I've spent

1398
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 1: probably a better half of twenty years writing for people

1399
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, writing comedy and stuff like that, and I've

1400
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: seen a lot of people, i mean today's day and

1401
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: age people just say what they think you want to hear,

1402
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: and they polished themselves up. And I have no intention

1403
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: of doing that. I'm here to honest tell you, honestly

1404
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: what I think, to tell you honestly what men think,

1405
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, whatever you want to know.

1406
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: I think this group here is willing to tell you.

1407
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: Are you to meet you with that what is your fear.

1408
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: Is there any fear of the consequences of opening up

1409
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: like that? No, there's no fear. I think I think

1410
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: people need to be honest. I think people need to

1411
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: just listen. If that's what's really happening, why not just

1412
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: share it? Because what happens people do a profile thing,

1413
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: or they go on on a dating app and they

1414
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: put a false picture or whatever. First day you realize

1415
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: that's not the person. So why not? And to be honest,

1416
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: I'm married for fourteen years. I have four kids, so

1417
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: I have nothing to lose. Because I was gonna say,

1418
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: now what about I was going to be like, now,

1419
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: what are your qualifications for that? Um? Okay, let's start

1420
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: with Rick's names mentioned. Yes, what I want to try

1421
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: to bring to this this podcast is basically you, like

1422
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: with Dmitri's referring to, is kind of the true value

1423
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: and being open about whether it's feelings or situations that

1424
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: we've been in before or raising kids. Um, and yeah,

1425
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to joining everybody. Thank you. So I'm

1426
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: Ryan like Dmitri, I've been writing in Hollywood for the

1427
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: past fifteen or so years. Uh. For me, I think

1428
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: I have a two year old at home, and I

1429
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: have another one on the way. So I think what's

1430
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: really interesting for me is that we all are in

1431
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: a different stage in our life. Dmitri has four kids,

1432
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, Brooks is married, you know, kids on the way.

1433
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: Gavin is single, Rick has two kids older age. So

1434
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be interesting to kind of

1435
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: see where we all are in our respective lives. What's

1436
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: exciting for me. So I'm just looking here at the

1437
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: topics that will be h even on the first podcast,

1438
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: and the one that stands out to me that I

1439
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: think is an incredibly exciting conversation porn found on Son's phone.

1440
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 1: Here we go, Let's do this thing, are right now,

1441
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: I'm really going to tune in. Make sure you too,

1442
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 1: I hope. So, um, you know the I think this

1443
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 1: is definitely gonna be a lot of fun, hopefully really funny.

1444
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: As you can tell, these guys are jacked about it.

1445
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: Let's take a second. Turn it back to Brooks. Brooks,

1446
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: this is you know, our listeners out here mostly Bachelor fans. Yeah,

1447
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: they're pursuing love some way, they're in love, they like

1448
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: watching love stories, but they're very loyal to the Bachelor.

1449
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: Are you loyal to the Bachelor. I am I will

1450
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 1: say this, I am now um because my wife really

1451
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: my wife. Yeah, my wife is Julian Huff and she

1452
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: I mean we watched The Bachelor almost religiously. No. Um,

1453
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: we have a theater room in our basement of our

1454
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: house and so we do it down there. But um,

1455
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: my baptism into the Bachelor world. I was still playing hockey.

1456
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: I came home from Toronto. We were on the All

1457
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: Star break. I think we had two days off and

1458
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: I came home from Toronto and my wife is like,

1459
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: tonight is Bachelor night, babe, And I'm like, I don't

1460
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 1: know what that is, sports guy, I don't. I don't

1461
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 1: know what's what's bachelor night? And she's like, well, I

1462
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: host friends at the house here and I turned the

1463
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: whole house into a bachelor party. And I'm like, okay,

1464
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: well let's do it. Would be a good way for

1465
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: me to see people I haven't seen in a couple

1466
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,759
Speaker 1: of months. Anyway, Cookie show up, balloons show up, Candy

1467
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: show up is probably like the twelfth sits down to

1468
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: the final five or and she and turns out she

1469
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: would theme it every week. It would be heart shaped everything.

1470
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: So balloons candies, cookies, but then it would be pizza

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01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 1: week one week, next week could be taco week, next

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01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 1: week could be sushi week. Bachelor parties, and it got outrageous.

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Speaker 1: There's like people in our living room like yelling at

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Speaker 1: the TV. Who's their favorite, who's not their favorite? Pay

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Speaker 1: attention though to the episode, because whenever I do watch parties,

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01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 1: that gets super frustrated because nobody shuts up. I was

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Speaker 1: over Yeah, so exactly. I was overwhelmed, and I'm like, hey,

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01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: I had to stop it. I pause a show. This true.

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01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: I pause the show. I'm like, listen, this is a

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01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,879
Speaker 1: house of love. This is like this, this like bickering

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01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 1: and like tearing down people on the TV. Listen. I'm

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01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: an athlete, I'm on TV. I don't want people ripping

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01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: on me when I'm not there. You can't defend myself. Um,

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01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: you can't do that in this house. And then there's

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01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: this big debate over and they're like laughed at you.

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01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, they're like they're like, Julianne, get your husband

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01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 1: out of here and go back place. But they're like, listen,

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01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 1: this is batsor this is damn important to us. Give

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01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: us this two hour segment to do what we want

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01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: and then once it ends, then we'll I'll be nice again.

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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, so people are bickering between friends or

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01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: you guys are making fun of people on the show.

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01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 1: Some people are making fun of people in the show.

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01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 1: Other people are like that one's gonna win. This one's

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01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 1: gonna win. Other people like I like her or like

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01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 1: him or whatever. Like it was just it was a

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01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 1: lot for a guy that hadn't been in that kind

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01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 1: of an environment. So but now I actually really enjoy

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Speaker 1: the show. My wife and I watch it a lot.

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Speaker 1: Um It's it's actually be kind of become a fun

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01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: thing for my wife and I to share. I you know,

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01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: it's funny. One of our favorite things. And we've done

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01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: a couple of segments is the celebrities or people of

1504
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: influence like politicians and who watched the show and who

1505
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: gained perspective and show or former athletes, former athletes always

1506
01:21:55,120 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 1: cracking up love it. We a few months ago we

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01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 1: interviewed Scotty McCreery and he and his wife are huge

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01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,560
Speaker 1: fans of the show. They actually we we found that

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01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 1: we were going to interview him, and I remember this

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01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: at the time, and we all got so excited and

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01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: then he sits down and he's like, we said Scotty

1512
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: were big fans. He goes, oh, no, no, no, I

1513
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 1: I love the show. And Tassha happened to be with us.

1514
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 1: Tasso's on Cold and Seas of the Bachelor, and she

1515
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: stands up and he goes, hey, Tasha, you are a favorite,

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01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 1: and it's like, this is just the weirdest deal for us,

1517
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 1: and I've never told you, guys, I never told you. Um,

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01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what's his name? Um? The guy who

1519
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: was married to Courtney Cox, David Orkatt, David Arkutt, So

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01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: he one time came up to us at a pumpkin patch.

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01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 1: Jared's obsessed with Scream, like so obsessed with the Scream franchise,

1522
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 1: and David Arkutt just chill comes up to us and

1523
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, guys, good to see you. And then

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01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: Jared's like, it's am I being punked right now? Like

1525
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,799
Speaker 1: Jared said, am I being punked right now? He's like, Noice,

1526
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: a huge fans wanted to come say hi, and he's like,

1527
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with you, dude. It was hilarious and you

1528
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: really had to be there for this moment. But the

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01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: way he was so nonchalant about it, like we were

1530
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 1: just old friends was awesome. That's cool, Brooks and I

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01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 1: share something very special that we need to share here

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01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: on the podcast. A wedding planner Troy Williams. So, you guys,

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01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 1: your wedding cover of People magazine, Um, viral video. Everybody

1534
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 1: was obsessed with your wedding video and video. Well it

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01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: was just like video three minutes you know that went

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01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: viral my wife released. Yeah, So anyway, UM, definitely an

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01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: inspiration as one of the reasons that we chose Troy.

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01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 1: We were friends with him beforehand. But you know, you know,

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01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: when Julianne goes with somebody to plan her wedding, it's

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01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: somebody good. You were in fantastic hands. Um. Troy absolutely

1541
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: killed it. I don't know how involved Jared is in

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01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: the planning. Is very very much in agreeance on almost everything. Okay,

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01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: this is how ours went. My wife did everything, and

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01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: then when she got stuck, she would be like, I

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01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: would be like, just bring me two options, and then

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01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 1: she would because her and Troy, I mean, they have

1547
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: exceptional taste and I'm I don't let's be honest, I don't.

1548
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 1: So but then when they got stuck. They bring me

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01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: two options. I'd say I like this one best, and

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01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: then they would just take care of it. But you

1551
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: are in fantastic hands with Troy. It will be the

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01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: best day of your life. What were some things that

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01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: she came to you with options where because she couldn't

1554
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 1: figure out one was one was like, um, oddly enough

1555
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: dance floor because there was there was this really nice

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01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: we we ended up getting it, Uh, this mirror dance floor.

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01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: It was really expensive. We had to import it and

1558
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: do all this stuff for its dangers with dresses and stuff.

1559
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 1: My wife falls ahead. It was, um, that was one

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01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: of them. Um, what to do with We did an

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01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: outdoor wedding. So there's a couple of issues there with

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01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:49,600
Speaker 1: some things that weren't as appealing as they should be. No,

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01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 1: not at all actually because we got married in July

1564
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: and Idaho and it doesn't rain much at all. So

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01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: but with Troy, Troy will also this. Um, Troy is

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01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: gonna surpri eyes you. He's gonna he's gonna have something

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01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: safe for you. This how thoughtfully is He's going to

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01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 1: have something safe for you that you and your fiance

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01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: are not aware of that He's going to surprise you

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01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: with or do on your wedding day. He's gonna have

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01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: and he'll handle everything you won't. He'll handle every fire

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01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 1: situation that goes on like and you won't even know,

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01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: and then maybe he'll tell you about it. Like that's

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01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 1: what he keeps saying. So many things are going to

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01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 1: happen that I'm going to deal with and I'll tell

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01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: you the next day, like all the story. What was

1577
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: your surprise? Yeah, what was your surprise? And what were

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01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 1: the crazy things that happened you didn't know about. We

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01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: had fireworks go off, So my wife and I are

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01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: in our first dance. All of a sudden there was

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01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: fireworks go off, and he had a boat out there

1582
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: to a police boat out there to stop other paparazzi

1583
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: or other like boats from coming into this bay. Um So,

1584
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 1: just stuff like that where you're you're so protected and

1585
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,759
Speaker 1: you feel like this is our space for our wedding,

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01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: especially on that day. Um So, like we're my wife

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01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:57,919
Speaker 1: and are dancing and all of a sudden, boom, fireworks

1588
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: are going off and we're right on the lakeside and

1589
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: just lighting the whole thing up and we have a

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01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 1: mirror dance floor and like all this was kind of

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01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 1: find out if either of you were afraid of fireworks

1592
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 1: that could have gone completely fireworks or he's like, gift

1593
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: to you. It's pretty nuts. It was. It was crazy,

1594
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: it was, but there's so many other things, like you

1595
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: just show up and you know you're at a Troy

1596
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: Williams event. Yeah, you're just like, this is next level.

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01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: He's the man, you know if you get there, buddy. Yeah,

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01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: he also did He also diave Evil Longoria's wedding. Yeah,

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01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: you guys are in good hands. Yeah, Hey, good for

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01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 1: Troy um so many royalties? Are you say? Name drop?

1601
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: She's like David ar Kent. Following uh, this little segment,

1602
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: these guys are running off to start recording their podcast

1603
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: with Gavin DeGraw as we finish our podcast in a

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01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 1: different studio. So as the time we're done with our podcast,

1605
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 1: there's will be up on the app or the website.

1606
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: Makes sure you'd go over to our radio to check

1607
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: out the How Men Think podcast or anywhere you listen

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01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: to podcast. Hey, thank you to Heather, Thank you Brooks.

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01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: Once again, thank you to People Magazine for breaking crazy stories,

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01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: and also from the bottom of our hearts and we

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01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,560
Speaker 1: mean this. I mean this, I know Ashley means and

1612
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 1: I um, congratulations, Lauren. We're happy for you. Congratulations Chris.

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01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 1: Go out there and celebrate. Leave any conversation, and I'm

1614
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: sure it doesn't come up in your relationship. But anytime

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01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: a presser asking you about me, just tell them that

1616
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,759
Speaker 1: I'm out of there. I don't mind, I don't carry

1617
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: in the headline. Tell him I'm so far away from

1618
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: your life and you've moved on so far from me

1619
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: that you could not be happier because we're all happy

1620
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 1: for you. So get out there, get married, fall in love,

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01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 1: and have a good time doing it. Hey, Heather, fall

1622
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: along here. I've been been, I've been, I've been Heather.

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01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 1: Talk to y'all. Soon followed Ben and Ashley I Almost

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01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 1: Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you

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Speaker 1: listen to podcasts.