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Speaker 1: Well, good morning, Sunshine Rise and shine Chip just we

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Speaker 1: were supposed to record this morning, and ship texts me

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Speaker 1: and says, oh my god, I slept through two alarms,

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Speaker 1: And I said, how the fuck do you do? Die?

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Speaker 2: I think? I mean, I didn't realize that if your

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Speaker 2: ringers down low, that your alarm. Yeah, you don't hear it.

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Speaker 1: If the volume is down on your phone, Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: I mean that's a glitch. It should your alarm should

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Speaker 2: always work.

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Speaker 1: I mean it works, but it's just really quiet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never slept through alarm. I want to.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try that one again.

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Speaker 1: I need to sleep, that's what needs to happen, right,

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Speaker 1: I have never slept through an alarm in my entire life.

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Speaker 1: Knock on wood. Now I'm going to jinx myself. That's

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Speaker 1: amazing the flight or something. Yeah, well, it's amazing. But

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Speaker 1: it's also because I'm not a very good sleeper, and

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Speaker 2: So you sleep with a noise machine, right, Well.

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Speaker 1: That's why, because I need to have like consistent sounds, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you on the other hand, are quite the sleeper.

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Speaker 2: I can sleep. I can sleep. I saw a lot

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Speaker 2: of logs while I'm doing it, Yeah, a lot of logs.

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Speaker 2: This is It was weird because I was going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is going to be interesting because you're

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Speaker 1: halfway awake because you just woke up. I'm halfway awake

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Speaker 1: because I've been wrapping that show I've been working on

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Speaker 1: with Garth Brooks, and we have been like massively, like

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Speaker 1: and they're doing like pick up scenes is what we call.

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Speaker 1: We said to go back and explain what was happening

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you, Kelly kept a really fucking good secret.

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Speaker 2: I knew she. I knew that you were working with Garth,

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Speaker 2: but I had no idea what the project was.

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Speaker 1: Oh you didn't. I didn't even tell you no, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean we had to sign an NDA, and so

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Speaker 1: I think I just got it like wired in my

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Speaker 2: Then once I just assumed he was busy, because you know,

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Speaker 1: Always Yeah, so I figured you were just.

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Speaker 2: Doing normal old ship for him. But well, I do.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been really amazing, and like last night they

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Speaker 1: for any listener who doesn't know. Sorry, i'bout like everyone

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Speaker 1: knows exactly what's happening in my life all the time.

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Speaker 1: So I do hear and makeup and styling as a job.

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Speaker 1: And I started working with Garth Brooks and we've been

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Speaker 1: filming a show about the development of his bar downtown Nashville,

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Speaker 1: March seventh. Shameless plug. If you guysn't watch, it's got

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Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, it's called Friends and Low Places. It's

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Speaker 2: So what happened? Kelly doesn't know the story yet, so

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Speaker 2: I'm hearing it at real time, just like you guys.

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Speaker 2: So this past weekend I traveled for work and I

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Speaker 1: You one, I need to go back. Are you on

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Speaker 2: Well, when you're there, it's all geo locations. Oh fair, okay, yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm on Grinder, Scruff and tender.

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Speaker 2: Like a dick pic, a real photo. There was never

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Speaker 2: I knew it was I knew he was fake, but like,

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is like three days into chatting.

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Speaker 1: Like like he was investing.

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Speaker 2: He was investing in me, and I was investing back

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Speaker 2: But I'm glad they even knew that you had a

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm I'm glad that you did not get catfished. Fully,

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Speaker 1: Need to find this man, who are you actually because.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because he's so handsome, and like, if he's anywhere

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Speaker 1: To go on a date with this guy. No Chancey's single,

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Speaker 1: you know right right? Well photos later, So we basically

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Speaker 1: You know, That's how I feel. I'm like, this guy

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Speaker 1: And then what's happened now is we have evolved past men,

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Speaker 1: the end all be all, and then it's just like

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00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: continuing the cycle because men never have to grow. If

433
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Speaker 1: if you can fuck my daughter and I'm still going

434
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Speaker 1: to marry you, why would he ever get his shit together? Like,

435
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 1: I just don't get it. I see like all my

436
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: friends and I talking about these situations, and it's like

437
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 1: you're literally accepting the worst behavior and then he does

438
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: one tiny thing that's good and we're like, oh my god,

439
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: but look at that, and then he lets you down again,

440
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: and it's just like, well, all men suck and it's like, no,

441
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: you are like not helping the situation because you're accepting

442
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: this behavior as normal and continuing in the relationship. So

443
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 1: what's ever going to change?

444
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean at least he didn't try to

445
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 2: sell her currency, you know.

446
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: How do you know?

447
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe she's so in debt now that she had

448
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: to marry him. Like that's that's the like, that's the

449
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: story that's going to come out. Was like they're all

450
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: being catfished, not even really dominate purcel, right.

451
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: We're like they're just using his likeness, his pictures. Yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just can't imagine. I'm like, he

453
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: cannot his dick cannot be that good, Okay, Like I.

454
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Speaker 2: Don't Yeah, I mean it's I mean obviously, it's like

455
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: I feel like, in terms of pop culture and tabloids

456
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 2: and stuff, like the Cyrus family is like ripe for it,

457
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: you know, Like so they're the they're the ones whose

458
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 2: names are really you know, in the headlines, and it's

459
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 2: more salacious to be like mom Mary's daughter's boyfriend, you know.

460
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: But like I think if I mean, obviously this isn't

461
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: a crime, but I'm going to use the word crime,

462
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: like if there's a crime being committed here, it's on

463
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: his part one hundred percent, because I'd like, I have

464
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: a really hard time believing that, Like Tish Cyrus is like,

465
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: how am I going to steal my daughter's boyfriend? Like

466
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: he was in her ear and building, you know, like

467
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: he probably met Tish through his relationship with Noah.

468
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: And that's fucked up.

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Speaker 2: And then I know, but look, there's also like you

470
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: could argue that if Noah is anything like her mom,

471
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: there are qualities about them both that they share and

472
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Speaker 2: I know, I know it's really gross, and I'm not

473
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: trying to justify it. I'm just trying to like get

474
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: in his head, like how do you do this? Like

475
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: how does this happen?

476
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: You're a sociopath? Yeah, it's like, I mean, I don't know.

477
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: Something is off. I still I think I hold Tish

478
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: to blame a little bit as well.

479
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 2: Tish should have known better, he should have just been

480
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: off limits, like right, g my fucking daughter, Like I

481
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: could do better than that.

482
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: And I mean that's hard because we don't know the

483
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: nature of their relationship. But if they've crossed physical lines,

484
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 1: as a mother. It's just weird. The whole thing is

485
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: just really creepy and weird. And I guess she to me,

486
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Speaker 1: the reason I hold Tish like on the string is

487
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: that what you say, what.

488
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Speaker 2: She holds the responsibility?

489
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: Well, the reason I put her there, whatever you want

490
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: to say, is because oh, how to point? Where did

491
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: it go?

492
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: Well, she's a mom, she should be leading by example. Yeah,

493
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, But I don't have that's

494
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 2: the point that you were going to have.

495
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't the point I was gonna make. It's just

496
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: sort of I just there's a million feet Oh, this

497
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: is what I was gonna say. Sorry, y'all, I mean

498
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: brain dead. But like, at what point do you think

499
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: that a man coming in is more important than your

500
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: relationship with your daughter?

501
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: It is a great point to me.

502
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 1: I'm like that I would never value any man above

503
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: my family like that. Like, that's just not And if

504
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: if there's a past, you would either need to discuss

505
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: with Noah beforehand and be like, look, and we don't

506
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: know that she didn't do that. I mean that could

507
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Speaker 1: have happened.

508
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 2: I read in one I read in one article that

509
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: Noah was actually at the wedding and she wore a

510
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: Billy Ray Cyrus T shirt to the wedding.

511
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Speaker 1: Which that's a rumor because I read I loved it.

512
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: We're like, no, I read that, because I read that

513
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: that was when she was at a grocery store during

514
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: the wedding weekend. Got it and it was like a

515
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: fuck you because she wanted to be photographed like that,

516
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: like she's picking her dad's side. They're apparently having falling

517
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: out with Billy Ray. Til. I don't even know what's

518
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: happening over with the Cyrus clan, but I'm sure we're

519
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: not getting the full story.

520
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: Is all totally yeah, it's I mean, honestly, it's none

521
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 2: of our business. But I just thought it was a

522
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: really interesting, like sort of relationship thing that popped up

523
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: and was part of pop culture, and I was like,

524
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 2: we should talk about this.

525
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: Well, it's just it's the kind of goes in line

526
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: with what we were talking about last month, which is

527
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: just because we don't grow and like learn new things,

528
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: or we don't teach how to have like relationship skills

529
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: in early life. It is put on the parents. And

530
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: if you're not getting that at home, you're just going

531
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: to make all these decisions as an adult that are

532
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: crazy and insane and like trying to get your needs

533
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: met in whatever way you can. But most of the time,

534
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: if we don't learn new tools as adults, we're just

535
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: choosing what we would choose as like a child or

536
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: an adolescent or you know what I mean. And so

537
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: that to me looks like what's playing out here is

538
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: like hish maybe got divorced. Is like I don't know

539
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: what her dating life has looked like. And all of

540
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: a sudden, here comes this guy. I'm assuming he is

541
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: very charming. I would I would go out on the

542
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: limb and guess he's probably a narcissist. That's my guess.

543
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: Is like he has this like charm, this way about him,

544
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: and she fell for it, and it's making it's you know,

545
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: like kind of fucks up your brain and you start

546
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: making decisions based on needs in the moment versus like

547
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: bigger picture things like oh right, I have a relationship

548
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: with a daughter who also dated this guy, Like does

549
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: it seem like she's seeing clearly you know what I mean. No, So, anyway,

550
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: that's all the things that are happening. We actually just

551
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: wanted you guys, feedback on these situations, like has anything

552
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: like this ever happened to you? Have you been catfished?

553
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: Has your mom dated your boyfriend? Has she married? If

554
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: there's other stories like that, I don't know what to

555
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: think about it, but yeah, or the kind of the

556
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: rant that I went on, like when are we as

557
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: women going to rally together and start setting boundaries? Like

558
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: if all of us do it, it feels like, okay,

559
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: then maybe things will change. But if one of us

560
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: is doing it and the other ones aren't, then it's

561
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: just like the bad behavior just continues, and I think

562
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: it's time. We just need men to step up. That's

563
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: what I say, That's what I really say.

564
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, if you're Dominic Purcell, like, there

565
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 2: are plenty of women, There are plenty of fish in

566
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: the sea, you know what I mean?

567
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: Why are you having to go after two cyrus people?

568
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 1: Who's next? You know what if Brandy Miley all of them.

569
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 2: He actually turns out gay and date's one of the suns.

570
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: Oh my god, him and Billy Ray end up together

571
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: after all this, that would be a twist. That's a

572
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: reality show I'd watched. Okay, we've taken a turn anyway,

573
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: if you guys could call us leave us a voicemail.

574
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: I really want to know what you guys think about this.

575
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to put the link to our voicemail in

576
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: the description of this podcast. Also, you can find it

577
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: on my Instagram and the link in bio. My instagram

578
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: is at Velvet's Edge. You can also find it on

579
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: chips Instagram, which.

580
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: Is chip doorshe H R P D O R S C.

581
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: H and a's You guys go into the weekend and

582
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: you're living on the edge. I hope you always remember to.

583
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: Act casual, wake up to your alarms.

584
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: Bye bye,