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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the Hammer Territory Podcast, Episode

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Speaker 1: two one four. I'm your hosts Brad Roman, coming to

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Speaker 1: you on Wednesday evening here in mid June, and I'm joined.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe this. I'm joined by Scott Coleman. Scott

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Speaker 1: Coleman back from Hawaii, Slash from the Dead.

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Speaker 2: How are you, sir? Welcome back?

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Speaker 3: Hello, Thank you, Brad. It's good to be back.

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Speaker 4: I took a vacation and apparently the Braves took a

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Speaker 4: vacation at the same time, because I mean, dude, there

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Speaker 4: was some last week that was I thoroughly enjoyed my

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Speaker 4: hate listening of you and Stephen on Sunday night. I

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Speaker 4: actually thought it was a fantastic show. I think this podcast,

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Speaker 4: myself excluded, does a really good job when the chips

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Speaker 4: are down, because it's easy to do shows when teams

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Speaker 4: won eight out of nine and all is good and dandy,

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Speaker 4: it's not hard to.

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Speaker 3: Come up with content.

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Speaker 4: But it's been a rough go and thankfully the Braves

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Speaker 4: won the series against the Brewers, which is not a

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Speaker 4: small thing. Snap the losing skid, and you know, I

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Speaker 4: feel like every time you and I do a show,

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Speaker 4: it's like Okay, maybe they're going to start to figure

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Speaker 4: some things out, but the schedule does kind of line

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Speaker 4: up for them if they're going to make Hay it

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Speaker 4: kind of feels like now or never.

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 1: And we are going to get into some of the

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Speaker 1: big picture stuff in a minute, because it's worth talking about.

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Speaker 1: You've been gone for a little while. I have some

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Speaker 1: numbers as to what happened while you were going. They

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Speaker 1: were not pretty. For example, we should encourage people to the

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Speaker 1: top of the show. Also, if you're just throwing us

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Speaker 1: to the first time or searching for special small and

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Speaker 1: block perhaps on YouTube and you want to find the show,

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Speaker 1: subscribe to our podcast, Tamber Territory.

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Speaker 2: Any where you find podcasts. Check us out.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. We're here twelve months a year

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Speaker 1: cover the Braves in deep dye fashion. But I do

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Speaker 1: take the opportunity, because of what happened on Wednesday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: to start the show in a positive fashion and do

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Speaker 1: a segment about a positive topic. Not to pull my

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Speaker 1: best Sean Coleman and be positive at all times. We

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Speaker 1: love you, Sean, but look this is worthy of it.

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Speaker 2: Specially.

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Speaker 1: Pallenbach was absolutely lights out today. His first career complete game.

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Speaker 1: He was just fantastic and basically, you know, they they

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Speaker 1: won a series. Look, that isn't the highest bart to clear.

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Speaker 1: We do kind of do the bit a lot where

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Speaker 1: you want to just stack winning series. And the Braves

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Speaker 1: lost six consecutive series and that's not that's not a misprint.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened. Also, less seven games in a row

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Speaker 1: recently heading into the weekend and to come out and

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Speaker 1: this and look they won behind sale in Schwellenbach, and

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Speaker 1: that's not a huge surprise when that's when that happens.

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Speaker 1: But Schwellenbach in particular today was just awesome. And the

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Speaker 1: fact that he set his own history did it? Did

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Speaker 1: it to pull the bullpen at all? It's nice for

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Speaker 1: the bullpens could just take a day off on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: He's your guy. What did you see from Spencer on

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Speaker 4: That was as good as Spencer Schwellenbach has pitched in

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Speaker 4: the majors and nine innings, one hundred and five pitches

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Speaker 4: almost had amatics but couldn't quite get there. But I

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Speaker 4: think it was the first time since last May or

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Speaker 4: June that the Braves had a complete game, which was

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Speaker 4: from Max Freed and really, I mean you look at

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Speaker 4: Schwellenbach's day, nine strikeouts over nine innings, this jump in

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Speaker 4: velocity for Spencer seems to be legitimate. I know, was

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Speaker 4: it two starts ago when he was just hitting one

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Speaker 4: maybe maybe it was a hot gun or something like

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Speaker 4: that for a day. But he was humming ninety eight,

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Speaker 4: ninety nine, one hundred again today and he's just so good.

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Speaker 4: He gave up one solo homer that was kind of

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Speaker 4: and other than that, it was cruise control for Schwellenbach.

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Speaker 4: And he is just such an impressive young pitcher.

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Speaker 1: He hit ninety nine on a basketball at the ninth

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Speaker 1: inning today, was like it was pitch ninety eight or

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Speaker 1: If he hit trouble, they probably would have taken him out.

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Speaker 1: But there was no trouble. That was nice to see.

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Speaker 1: And well he got thirteen straight guys out at one

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Speaker 2: It wasn't perfect. He allowed two runs.

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Speaker 1: I get it, but in typical Schmall black fashion, nine

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Speaker 1: that that's a lot of time. Listening to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: He now has eighty four strikeouts and fourteen walks this season.

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Speaker 1: That'll play, obviously, And look, I know there was we

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Speaker 1: You know, they'll never tell us all stuff that he's

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Speaker 1: The offense has been the offense. We all know the

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Speaker 1: the way that Sale is pitching and the way Twelomuck's pitching,

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Speaker 1: you still want to give them some support. They did

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Speaker 1: a baseball game. But when you have schwallen Back pitching

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Speaker 1: you made this point, I'm gonna throw it to you

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Speaker 1: may have put on Twitter already. It seems like Schwellenbach

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Speaker 1: that's we have about a year sample size, as you

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Speaker 1: if you don't know what he's not. He's not famous

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was curious after today's start Schwellenbach over the

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Speaker 4: at worst top fifteen across all qualified starters in Major

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Speaker 4: He's just such a complete pitcher. And I mean, Schwellenbach

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 1: And look, Shawn Steven did this yesterday, so we won't

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Speaker 1: do it again. But if Smollabach does this for two

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Speaker 1: the All Star team. And people care about that more

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Speaker 1: than you and I care about that. But it's in Atuna.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna get a lot of attention. Obviously, it always does,

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Speaker 1: they had some representation beyond Sale who seems like a lock,

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Speaker 1: very popular and should be. But Schwelli's a nice guy

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Speaker 1: on the list right now. So he's been pitching awesome.

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Speaker 1: It was a big boy outing today at an afternoon game,

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Speaker 1: kind of a sleepy spot, potentially certainly a high pressure one,

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Speaker 2: They have to win games.

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Speaker 1: But what we're talking about more even later in the show,

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Speaker 1: when we kind of preview the upcoming Rocky series and yes,

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Speaker 1: they're playing the Rockies this weekend, and normally that's like,

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Speaker 1: oh man, yes they're playing the Rockies, and this time

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Speaker 1: But schwallwy doing this, which is awesome, and I wanted

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Speaker 3: Fun to watch and not a small thing.

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Speaker 4: But the Braves are off on Thursday. Schwallenbach covered all

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Speaker 4: nine innings on Wednesday, and on Tuesday was it bummer pitched,

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Speaker 4: especially with how jekylin Hyde this group has been. So

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Speaker 4: that's again, man, it's we're getting closure to like the

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Speaker 4: dog days of the season. Now it's not early anymore,

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Speaker 4: but it's obviously still a long ways to go before

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Speaker 4: August and September and the postseason push. But just a

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Speaker 4: big tip of the cap to Schwallenbach. He was great,

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Speaker 4: picked up the whole team, The offense did just enough,

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Speaker 1: In an effort to keep the vibes high, in this

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Speaker 1: first segment, we'll stop here. We'll come back in a

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Speaker 1: moment talk about the rest of this game on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and then a little bit of big picture because Scott

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Speaker 1: it's like a coinciance because the injury is out there.

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Speaker 1: But you're right, I mean, I have a feeling and

435
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Speaker 1: no one said this that they would give him some

436
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Speaker 1: time off if that thought it was it was going

437
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Speaker 1: to help him, and that's not happening. So it's like

438
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Speaker 1: I might some people argue, like I give him a

439
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Speaker 1: Dane if every one while, maybe if that would help maybe.

440
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Speaker 2: Short, I mean, you can't.

441
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Speaker 1: It can't hurt to try it that you have a

442
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Speaker 1: guy that is capable of playing there of course with

443
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Speaker 1: either Ballwin or Murphy. And look, I'm not worry about

444
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: him either, but Balwin's having a bit of a slump

445
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 1: right now too. He's not been special in the last

446
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Speaker 1: few weeks. And by the way, not worried. Ballen's awesome,

447
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: but he was probably doeing for some regression that these

448
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: things happen in cycles. But that's kind of speaks to

449
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: maybe why some of them, like, hey, why aren't they

450
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 1: scoring runs the last few weeks? Well, other than Ronnie

451
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 1: also has been pretty good lately. Baldwin cooled off, Azuna

452
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: cooled off, Rowley's never really gotten hot for extra period

453
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: of time, Like, hey, I wonder why they're not scoring runs.

454
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Speaker 1: Like it's like, yeah, do the math.

455
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like every night, there's just it. It's frustrating,

456
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Speaker 4: and we won't go down the offense rabbit hole for

457
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 4: the four millionth time this year. But it just at

458
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 4: the end of the day, is the team going to hit?

459
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 4: And Marcello Zuna is a big part of that. And

460
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 4: we'll see what the next couple of weeks hold. Maybe

461
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Speaker 4: the Braves do give him ten days off to see

462
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Speaker 4: if it helps, you know, if Marcel has another bad weekend,

463
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 4: maybe then they have a real conversation on Monday and say,

464
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 4: you know, we the Braves aren't built, like teams generally,

465
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 4: are not built to a stand a DH, especially a

466
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 4: hitter as good as Marcel is, to lose their DH

467
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 4: because then you're just kind of throwing in a bench piece.

468
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do they do have an option like most

469
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: teams don't. See you have somebody to put there. Look,

470
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: I'll just throw this in on a day, like if

471
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: you're judging Drake ball when our Sean Murphy against a

472
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: high end DH, they probably aren't going to be as

473
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 1: good as that, but they are still better options than

474
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Speaker 1: most people have it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know what I mean.

476
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Speaker 1: There's there are levels to this catcher in general, Like

477
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Speaker 1: it's not a hitting first position in the way that

478
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Speaker 1: some guys are. But yeah, they are set up pretty

479
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Speaker 1: well and we'll see. I'm a getting I'm not I'm

480
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Speaker 1: not terrified about it. I was doing it yet, but

481
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Speaker 1: that the combination of the injury reveal and the downturn

482
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Speaker 1: like at the same time, seems like it's kind of

483
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Speaker 1: too convenient to ignore. At this point, I have one

484
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Speaker 1: more note on the offense because it's just too funny

485
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Speaker 1: and funny it is probably the wrong word, but I

486
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Speaker 1: shared this in our private message today, but I look

487
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Speaker 1: this up today. Nick Allen, who I have enjoyed playing

488
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Speaker 1: defense all year long. We all have, right, I got

489
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 1: really really yelled at about a month ago on Twitter

490
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Speaker 1: for just kind of saying Nick Allen wasn't going to

491
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Speaker 1: hit because he has never hit in his life.

492
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: He's not hitting Scott.

493
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Speaker 1: He has the lowest ISO, and that, for people that

494
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: don't know, is the basically power only metric of any

495
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Speaker 1: player in baseball that is a qualified regular. He has

496
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: basically the least power of any player in baseball. I

497
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: still think he meant I have a barrel this season

498
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: at last check, like litterally zero barrels, and the Glove's great,

499
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: but I just want to say, like, that's.

500
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Speaker 2: Tough to navigate.

501
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: I know they did the whole, the whole bit last

502
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Speaker 1: night on the show Steve and Shawan not trying to

503
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Speaker 1: repeat that, but because of that, I looked it up

504
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Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I wonder if it's actually

505
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Speaker 1: and yeah, it's actually as as bad as I thought

506
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Speaker 1: it was.

507
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Speaker 2: Yes, it's tough.

508
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Speaker 4: And frankly, I mean we knew months ago this was

509
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Speaker 4: probably going to be the shortstop situation, whether it was

510
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Speaker 4: Arcia or Alan. And while Nick Allen is like a

511
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Speaker 4: virtual lock to win the Gold Glove if he plays,

512
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 4: he just can't really hit. And I think we all said, hey,

513
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Speaker 4: if he's ninth and everybody else ahead of him is hitting,

514
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Speaker 4: who cares if if right, Michael Hay, Yeah, Michael Harris

515
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 4: doesn't hit Ossy Alby's is not really hitting Austin Riley

516
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 4: looks he's in a funk. You know, we we we

517
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Speaker 4: don't have to go down the whole list again. But yeah,

518
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Speaker 4: it's been.

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Speaker 1: On Nick Allen while we're here. I just to be

520
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Speaker 1: somewhat positive. Nick Allen has been that bad of the

521
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Speaker 1: hitter with that little power this season. He's still on

522
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Speaker 1: pace for like two wins by replacements for the year.

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Speaker 1: If that's a player you can play in your lineup, Like,

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna He's not gonna kill you. It's just

525
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Speaker 1: that he is the polar Like he's the pro typical

526
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: example of literally zero bat and great glove at a

527
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Speaker 1: premium position. And that's dark, that's dark temple of a

528
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: bad idea, Like that's the you know, you can do

529
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Speaker 1: it a shortstop in a lineup that had better offense,

530
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't feel it as much. Yeah, but when you

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Speaker 1: have Michael Harris doing a Nick Allen impression, quite honestly, uh,

532
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: that's in different ways obviously, but you know what I mean,

533
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Speaker 1: more barking, less BiCon. I don't know I'm not sure

534
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Speaker 1: what the proper acknology is there, Scott, but yeah, it's

535
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Speaker 1: been it's been tough to height again full circle.

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Speaker 2: Six runs today.

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Speaker 1: I'm channeling Sean six runs today. Ron Accute is a

538
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Speaker 1: high level future Hall of Fame player who stays healthy.

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Speaker 2: Knock on wood.

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Speaker 1: You feel okay about it some nights and then you

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday night. If we did this podcast last night,

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Speaker 1: like Shawn and Steven had to do, we wouldn't feel

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Speaker 1: so good.

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Speaker 3: But nope.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, it's funny this series. Monday night,

546
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Speaker 4: great win, Tuesday night awful loss. Oh my god, what

547
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 4: a giant part of a baseball game that was. And

548
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Speaker 4: then and then today it was you know, Brave scored early,

549
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Speaker 4: they scored often, pitching was great, so it was good

550
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Speaker 4: to get a bounce back. I know, it's funny watching

551
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Speaker 4: from Afar and following on Twitter. You know, everyone's like,

552
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Speaker 4: all right, Monday night, great win, here they go. And

553
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Speaker 4: then Tuesday was awful. And then on getaway day with

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Speaker 4: the day off, and now you have the Rockies, you

555
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Speaker 4: have you're back in town. Scott's here again. They can

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Speaker 4: start hitting again. They're allowed to do so. Uh, that's

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Speaker 1: Okay, Scott, The Rays won the series as we went with,

589
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: they lost six in a zero before that. Yes, they

590
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: are now twenty nine to thirty eight. Uh, you made

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Speaker 1: a note that I'm going to pass to you, but

592
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: the Braves have a plus ten run differential this season,

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00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: which is impossible for a team that's not either found

594
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: her but it's not impossible things like that happened. But

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Speaker 1: I wonder from afar since you did not have to

596
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: experience the actual rock bottom in the way that we

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00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: did on the show in the last well, I should say,

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Speaker 1: we hope that was rock bottom. Just a minor correction there,

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00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: We hope that was rock bottom. What do you feel

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Speaker 1: about that? Like knowing that they're twenty nine to thirty

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Speaker 1: eight with some metrics that are like I think the

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Speaker 1: way that Steven and I said it was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: they're playing like a five hundred team, which no one

604
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Speaker 1: should be excited about.

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Speaker 2: But that's better than this, and it's weird.

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Speaker 4: You know, run differential is not scientific. It's not a

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00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 4: perfect stad it's not a one for one proposition. But

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Speaker 4: the fact that the Braves have a plus ten positive

609
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Speaker 4: run differential two weeks into June and their nine games

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Speaker 4: below five hundred is mathematically improbable. And I was on

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Speaker 4: a long flight today I was thinking about this, and

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Speaker 4: I think that's why, deep down I still have maybe

613
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: it's foolish hope, but just a little bit of hope

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Speaker 4: that this team is not completely dead. If they were

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Speaker 4: nine games below five hundred with a negative thirty five

616
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Speaker 4: run differential, I would say this this year's over. Like,

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Speaker 4: sell literally anything you can that's not a long term piece,

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Speaker 4: and let's just move on and flush it and hope

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Speaker 4: this is an anomaly of a year. But I still

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Speaker 4: have the feeling, based on these stats that if you

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Speaker 4: look at run differential, the Raids are supposed to be

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Speaker 4: more of like.

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Speaker 3: A five hundred team.

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Speaker 4: Teams like the Cleveland Guardians and the Kansas City Royals

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Speaker 4: have run differentials thirty or forty runs worse than the

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Speaker 4: Braves and they're above five hundred. That's tough. And again,

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Speaker 4: it's not a perfect stat But I don't know. Maybe

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00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: it's just some blind optimism. That's probably what this is.

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Speaker 4: It's just blind optimism that they can figure some things out.

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00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: But it's mid June. It is now or never. This

631
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: team has to reel off. In addition to playing well

632
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 4: from now until the end of the season, they also

633
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Speaker 4: have to reel off a real stretch here. They have

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Speaker 4: to go nine and one over ten games, or you know,

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Speaker 4: over the next twenty five go nineteen and six or

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Speaker 4: something like that. That's what they need to climb out

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Speaker 4: of this hole. And then they have to sustain it.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that you know, they need to.

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Speaker 4: I mean that that really is where we're at now.

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Speaker 3: It is not the.

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Speaker 1: Same thing as a good point, no, I mean, because

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Speaker 1: we cover this, you and I did. The Braves did

643
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: have a stretch this season this season where they went

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00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: nineteen and ten over twenty nine games either were the

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Speaker 1: best game in the National LEA get that simple size,

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Speaker 1: or second best, like they were like an elite team

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Speaker 1: for about five weeks. Unfortunately, before and half of that

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Speaker 1: they were terrible. Yeah, so we've all forgotten. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, like I said, exactly exactly that you have

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Speaker 1: to do it, and then you can't give it back.

651
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Speaker 1: The first time they did that, they gave it back

652
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: in full in about a week and a half. They

653
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: give it that they just gave it back, and you

654
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: can't afford that anymore. You have one more stretch like

655
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: that this year, you're probably dead.

656
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: They're dead.

657
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: Anything like that I'm talking about, even even the better

658
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: version of what they just did for two weeks, you

659
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: can't do it. I mean, you can go five hundred

660
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks probably if you have a

661
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: if you have a scalding hotterre somewhere, but you cannot

662
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: do it at one of these like we're gonna go,

663
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, three and twelve stright like, you can't do.

664
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Speaker 3: It, and they're dead.

665
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: That's done.

666
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: Even like a five game losing streak, I think they're dead.

667
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 4: I mean, no, inevitably, even if the Braves start to

668
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 4: play better, they'll have a stretch where they lose three

669
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: in a row, four in a row. But if they

670
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Speaker 4: lose five in a row again, which would be the

671
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: third time this year, they're done. I like, mathematically, they

672
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: they're going to be pretty close to donn.

673
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: It does feel that way. We don't have to do.

674
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: The one off field story that everyone's talking about today

675
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: from the Braves was this James McCann quote set of

676
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: quotes to Ken Rosenthal, our colleague over at foul Territory

677
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: and fair Territory. He kind of went after the organization.

678
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: And James McCann, if you don't know, was the veteran

679
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: catcher who's currently in Triple A on a minor league

680
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: deal with the Braves.

681
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: And for a brave.

682
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: To kind of be going at the Braves this way

683
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: was eyebrow raising around baseball about the Craig Campbell handling.

684
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: And I won't really like I said my piece on

685
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: Sunday was Stephen, we were both like baffled by the

686
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: handling of the situation. Like I thought it was a

687
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: clearly mistake by Alex, Like I don't know what the

688
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: heck they were doing. Nothing more to add, But do

689
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: you have a take on this, Like did you think

690
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: anything about this, knowing that you hadn't talked about it yet.

691
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: No, I thought you and Steven did a great job

692
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: that segment. On Sunday night, I was walking or doing

693
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Speaker 4: something and just found myself nodding along with it. It

694
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 4: was a self imposed black eye.

695
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: Why.

696
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: I still don't understand it. It's been almost a week.

697
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: I have no idea what the Braves were thinking. I

698
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: wouldn't do that to Kimberl. You wouldn't do it. Frankly,

699
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 4: I'm still surprised by it. Made no sense doing it

700
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: in San Francisco and then cutting him twenty four hours

701
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 4: later for Austin Cox or whoever the hell they called

702
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 4: up and then somebody else, like it was just it

703
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 4: was a pr Yes, it was stupid. I mean, in

704
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 4: the simplest terms, it was stupid, and the Braves don't

705
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 4: need to be doing stupid things when they're having this

706
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 4: horrible season on the field.

707
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then McCann it was ironically like in the

708
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: exact situation that Kimberl's it. Now, he's not a Hall

709
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: of Famer like Kimberl, but a good player for a

710
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: long time, well on the same kind of contract with

711
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: a rolling opt out, and he's kind of like, Hey,

712
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 1: don't go do that to me. He didn't say that,

713
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: but it's kind of like, hey, can you do not

714
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: do that to me?

715
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: In Hey, I guarantee you.

716
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: There were multiple players in the organization who had the

717
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 4: exact same feelings as McCann did.

718
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: Kind he kind of said that, I mean, he kind

719
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: of said it to Ken. It was like the people

720
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: and people around the team were frustrated. I don't know,

721
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is when, will never know,

722
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: but like that's not a situation that that braves usually do.

723
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: Not to be like all like braves wear or whatever.

724
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm not always doing that, but they don't usually get

725
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: that this kind of cycle. Like there's occasionally there's like

726
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: the snit versus Ronnie and like on field things, you

727
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: don't hear the behind the scenes stuff very much, Like

728
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: that's not something that gets out and this is more

729
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: like and again, he's not a lifetime Brave and maybe

730
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: that's why he's he's been he's been a dreaman. Perhaps

731
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: that's why he's talking to Ken Rosenthal on a Monday

732
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: or whatever it was. But still it's just a weird look.

733
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: And by the way, Kimberrill signed with the Rangers minor

734
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: league deal after he let the free agency. So I

735
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: hope Craig gets back.

736
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Speaker 4: And I didn't really get to talk about Camberll. I'll say,

737
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 4: I mean, from a baseball perspective, no problem with moving

738
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 4: on from Kimberrill, I don't think he's good. You don't

739
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 4: think he's good. Nobody really thinks Camberrell is very good

740
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 4: at this point. But just the opt and all of

741
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: that was just an ugly self inflicted wound. The Braves

742
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 4: just frankly did not need I wanted to give you.

743
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: A chance to do that exact bit if you wanted to.

744
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: And here we are, in an effort to by our

745
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: Standard's gotta here relatively quickly on a shorter episode on

746
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,959
Speaker 1: a Wednesday. I'm sure you want to go to sleep.

747
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: You run on a long flight.

748
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: Today.

749
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: The Braves, as we alluded to earlier, come home to

750
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: face the Rockies this weekend. I don't know if we'll

751
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: have another show between now and the start of the

752
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: series and all.

753
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: That stuff, so this will.

754
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: Be our mini preview. The Rockies are terrible. I mean

755
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: all time, very very very terrible.

756
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: They do.

757
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're playing right now against the Giants. They're down

758
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: to nothing in the first inning, so they might lose.

759
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: They are underdogs to win the game today they're playing.

760
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: If they were to lose, as we're recording this podcast,

761
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: they would be twelve and fifty five when they arrive

762
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. That is a staggering number. They are already

763
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: twenty seven games out of the first place in the

764
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: division on June eleventh, so we all know the story here.

765
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: They're on pace for the beat to be one of,

766
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: if not the worst team in history right now. I

767
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: tee that up to say, usually on the podcast we

768
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: would be doing the bit and it's not really bad

769
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: because I actually believe it. Of like, hey, you can't

770
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: assume a sweep. Ever, you can't. I know, I know that,

771
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: I know, I know how bad they are or of

772
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: this season. The Braves beat beat them in a series

773
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: in Colorado, but but did lose a game and ironically

774
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: they lost the game pitched by Chris Saale and Sale

775
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: is really good. And the Braves scored one run in

776
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: a game at Coursefield. If you do that, you can lose.

777
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: That's just what it is. So I say that's to say,

778
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: I'll never I'll never say you have to sweep a team.

779
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: It's just so hard to do.

780
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: Scott.

781
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: This is about as close as it has to be.

782
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: Like you come home with where the Braves are playing

783
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: the worst team of all time, they really kind of

784
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: need to sweep them. Yeah, they really do. Like it

785
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: seems it seems aggressive as it comes out of my mouth,

786
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: but I can't stop myself from saying It's like, if

787
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: there was ever a time to get a sweep, it

788
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: kind of needs to be here.

789
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: They have to do it at home, desperately need to

790
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 4: win three games this weekend. The Rockies are so bad,

791
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 4: so so so bad. Yeah, and you have Bryce Elder pitching, which, dude,

792
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 4: I missed the Bryce Elders start over the weekend.

793
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we had talked about.

794
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean, we did it on the show, but Rice,

795
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a I felt so bad on

796
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: the podcast for him, and it was like hours later

797
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: and we're like, man, I can't but they lost that game.

798
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean I sat there in stun silence and lost it.

799
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: But Bryce Elder here here, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully does it

800
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: again on Friday. By the way, I miss both. The

801
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: Rockies play again on Thursday, so we'recoring this Wednesday afternoon

802
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: as as they play. They play again tomorrow, So the

803
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: rece have a rest advantage too. Of everything else, they

804
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: have a day rest advantage against the Rockies.

805
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 4: So there so when they lose on Friday night, we

806
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: can all just bang our heads against the wall for

807
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 4: the millionth time. But yeah, yeah, in all seriousness, Braves

808
00:36:59,480 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: have to win.

809
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: Please ree games. Yeah, please win. There you go. That's

810
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: the summary of the segment. Please for no.

811
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: Hashtags, no hashtags though we're not doing hashtags. Sewn's hashtag

812
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: record this season is not what we want to see.

813
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: But please win. It's Elder, it's Strider, it's Sale Against

814
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: the Rockies, we don't know starters yet. It doesn't particularly

815
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: matter to me who the starters are for the Rockies.

816
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: I say that because and look, this should not be

817
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: how the team is thinking. We are not on the

818
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: team so we can say how much of a favorite

819
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: the Brives should be in these games. The team should

820
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 1: be like, hey, guys, we're twenty nine to thirty eight.

821
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who we're playing. We have to play

822
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: well and win. So there's no I'm sure there's no

823
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: overconfidence in that clubhouse at the moment.

824
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 4: Well, and frankly, last year this team struggled with the

825
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 4: White Sox, they struggled with the Rockies. This year they

826
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 4: took two out of three against Colorado, which is not horrible,

827
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: but when you're twelve and likely fifty seven when they

828
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 4: come to town on Friday. One of those twelve wins

829
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 4: was against the Braves when they had the reigning Cy

830
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 4: Young winner on the field. So please, please, please, please,

831
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 4: please please win these three games. Make life easier on yourselves.

832
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 4: Don't make them close. It feels like every game the

833
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 4: Rockies are losing five to nothing by like the third inning,

834
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 4: and it's just kind.

835
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: Of cruise control.

836
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: Let's do it. Take advantage of it, because then after

837
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 4: this very very winnable series against the Rockies, you have

838
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: seven games with the Mets coming up. I think you

839
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 4: have the Phillies again as well. You know, it's it's

840
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: go time. If the Braves are going to make this

841
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 4: season in this summer interesting, it's go time. And it

842
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 4: starts with the Rockies this weekend.

843
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: We will know by at the latest the end of June,

844
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: whether this is a team that has the chance to

845
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: do anything. Yeah, because of what you just said, the

846
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: schedule is what it is. After the Colorado series, it's

847
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: it's the following it's it's Mets, then Marlins, but then Mets,

848
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: Phillies and and by the I am to talk about

849
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: the division and you're not either at this point the

850
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: vision is not even a thought.

851
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: They have to win. We're talking about the well, we're

852
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: talk about the Walker. I know that.

853
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: I know they're playing the Mets in the Phillies. People think, no,

854
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: it's it's not about that. It's just that those kids

855
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: are good teams and you have to be It's hard.

856
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: So Scott, you're back.

857
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: Nice to see you, Nice to talk to you. After

858
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 2: about ten days.

859
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: I have a similar window later in the season where

860
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: I'll be gone for about as long as you just

861
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: were and probably been able to record podcasts. This is

862
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: why we have four of us. But I did miss you.

863
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 1: I'm sure the listeners missed you as well. And uh

864
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: as I will quote my own text to you the

865
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: other day after some of the worst losses I've ever

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Speaker 1: seen in my life, you can't travel anymore. You're now banned,

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Speaker 1: so my apologies for that, but you can't go to

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Speaker 1: Hawaii ever again.

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Speaker 4: Uh so you're I was really hoping the Braves were

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Speaker 4: going to go on a run in the positive direction

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Speaker 4: when I was gone. And then it's like, guys, I

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Speaker 4: don't want to mess with the mojo. I can't be

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Speaker 4: on the schedule this week. It's just you boys.

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Speaker 1: What what was the official record? I believe, but so

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Speaker 1: you left after the first so united a pocket. I

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Speaker 1: think they went while you were gone. They went one

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Speaker 1: in seven, one and seven because they won today and

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Speaker 1: you were already back. Yeah, so one in seven while

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Speaker 1: Scott was gone. Draw your ow conclusions, folks. I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of kidding, but hey, baseball is a weird sport. There's

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Speaker 1: also a stat out there. It's like they can't women

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Speaker 1: Sean Raphy catches. If people think Sean Raphy is the reason,

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Speaker 1: it's very funny. Baseball is a weird sport. It's not

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Speaker 1: his fault, all right, Scott, Let's get out of here.

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Speaker 1: If people are new to the podcast, and if they are,

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Speaker 1: then we've done a lot inside jokes on the show,

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Speaker 1: my apologist. If you're doing for listeners, uh, if they

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Speaker 1: are new, Scott, where can they find you as you

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Speaker 1: talk about the Bravees from Hawaii or Arizona or wherever

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Speaker 1: you might be?

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Speaker 3: There we go.

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Speaker 4: I did think about setting up a remote office for

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Speaker 4: all of us to record podcasts from in Hawaii.

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Speaker 3: That would be nice.

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Speaker 2: Just you did threaten to call in on one of

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Speaker 2: the more dark episodes. I think you might. I think

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Speaker 2: you might have been having.

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Speaker 1: A few my ties before we talked, even because you

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Speaker 1: were on vacation and I was like, I think you

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Speaker 1: might get fired, so we probably shouldn't have you on

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 3: That's a pro move, Brad.

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Speaker 4: That's why you are the man who steers the boat

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Speaker 4: for us all but thank you to everybody for tuning in.

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Speaker 4: We know this has been a very frustrating season, but

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Speaker 4: behind the curtain, people keep listening to the show. They

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Speaker 4: keep tuning into the show on YouTube, downloading on audio,

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Speaker 4: and it means the world to us. It's why we

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Speaker 4: do so many shows. The community is so strong and

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Speaker 4: it's growing by the day, so we really do appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: If you want to follow along on socials, I am

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Speaker 4: at Scott Coleman fifty five and I think, Brad, you

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Speaker 4: and I'll be back for a show on Sunday after

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Speaker 4: Knock on Wood. Let's get a sweep of the Rockies

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Speaker 4: and get a four game winning streak going.

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Speaker 1: That is the plan our traditional Sunday evening time slot

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Speaker 1: in which you and I have talked a lot over

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Speaker 1: the last almost decade. At this point, that's a real

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Speaker 1: number which is blowing my mind. That's what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: it out loud, but yeah, thank you for being here, Scott,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being into the listeners, for listening, Scott,

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Speaker 1: I just said it perfectly, but we really appreciate you

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Speaker 1: tuning in always. And I joke, but also it's true.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want to hate listen one day and

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Speaker 1: you want to support us, just download the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Just smash the download button. Tell a friend. I get

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Speaker 2: it all.

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Speaker 1: We all get it, I promise, But we try to

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Speaker 1: be responsible on the show and be uplifting and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. So we cover the team Hull Hog all

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Speaker 1: year round.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Subscribe to the show and we'll see everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thanks time,