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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what man this In real life, you're

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Speaker 2: doing some prison time.

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Speaker 3: This is extortion code to see something.

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Speaker 4: I know it's a criminal code that extortion is illegal

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Speaker 4: in the States.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why illegal.

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Speaker 4: Piji Morning, Sweet Wirl, and welcome to No Buffs, the

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Speaker 4: only Survivor podcast concerned about Yule's missing hands. It's Thursday,

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Speaker 4: April twenty third, and we're recapping the eleventh episode of

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Speaker 4: Survivor Winners at War. So watch. Yes spoilers, I'm Jay

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Speaker 4: Skeets and joining us here by the fire.

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Speaker 1: Tass Melis, Yes, Tony, Tony's kind of Greek.

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Speaker 4: You got the bearded one. Tray Kirby Heil ey Yo,

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Speaker 4: the international Man of Mystery, taking it to the max.

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Speaker 4: Lee Ellis Friends, last, but not least, making the magic happen.

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Speaker 4: It's JD. Hello, there he is, and here we are.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us on No Buffs. We're gonna once

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Speaker 4: again tackle this episode scene by scene. But the key

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Speaker 4: takeaway from episode eleven is that Tony may have just

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Speaker 4: had the greatest individual episode in Survivor history? Am I exaggerating?

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Speaker 4: Trey Kirby? Is there a case to be made?

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Speaker 3: Put it in the Survivor Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 5: I'm sure Jeff Probst has won some and I'm sure

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Speaker 5: he'd be okay inducting this episode from Tony because he

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Speaker 5: dominated it socially, he dominated it physically, he dominated it idly,

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Speaker 5: and he dominated it from an entertainment standpoint. It was

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Speaker 5: everything you could want from an episode of Survivor from

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Speaker 3: He was incredible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it is wild again. We'll go through this scene

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Speaker 4: by scene. But Tony within one episode found an idol,

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Speaker 4: rounded up six fire tokens to get out of a

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Speaker 4: weird new extortion disadvantage, which then allowed him to play

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Speaker 4: in the Immunity Challenge to win that again. Then he

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Speaker 4: comes up with a last minute plan to vote Sophie out, who,

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Speaker 4: by the way, had an idol in her pocket, and

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Speaker 4: like you said, the entertainment factor alone, get rid of

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Speaker 4: all that other stuff he had just done. This guy

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Speaker 4: was TV gold. According to Rob has a website, Tony

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Speaker 4: had eighteen confessionals.

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Speaker 3: In this episode alone.

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Speaker 4: People go entire seasons and get half that. The guy

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Speaker 4: was absolutely amazing. So yeah, I think I think he's

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Speaker 4: on the short list as again, maybe one of the

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Speaker 4: greatest individual episodes because he just was the entire episode.

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Speaker 4: It was all Tony. It was the Tony hour, and

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Speaker 4: it was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to decide if it was an eighty

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Speaker 2: one point game or one hundred point game.

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Speaker 4: I mean, wow, Kobe or Wilt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, unstopped.

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Speaker 4: I think it's Kobe because we're not really sure and

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Speaker 4: Wilt ever even happened, right, We saw Kobe's happen exactly.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and that's the modern era.

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Speaker 5: This has gotta be a Kobe performance, just coming up

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, does that make Sophie like Jalen Rose

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Speaker 4: or something that?

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Speaker 3: Maybe?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? All right, Well, the first scene from Episode eleven,

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Speaker 4: Night twenty five. We start on night twenty five, right

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Speaker 4: after Tribal Council with Jeremy back at Camp H. This

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Speaker 4: was pretty cool. The first words from this episode, by

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Speaker 4: is that some foreshadowing right there with what ultimately led

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Speaker 4: more specific. Yeah, we get like the rest of the

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Speaker 4: I was amazed because we get like Tony and a

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Speaker 3: Up and leave?

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Speaker 4: Even though they were gonna vote his ass out, like

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously it was the right thing to do, right.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: I thought that scene with Ben was hilarious where they

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Speaker 5: you were gonna vote me out. No, you could have

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Speaker 5: stayed around. No I was gonna vote you out. No

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Speaker 5: you're the biggest threat. No, you're the biggest threat.

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Speaker 3: It was great. Also coupled with when they first.

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Speaker 6: I don't get that the other contestants don't seem to

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Speaker 6: back to when Sarah gave up her food, you know

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Speaker 6: benefit they're the win to Nick for his birthday. People

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Speaker 6: hated that move. Tony goes out there and plays the

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Speaker 6: into last night perfectly by saving himself when he knew

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Speaker 6: him for that. Surely someone would have come back and said, man,

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Speaker 6: you read the room tonight, well played, but no one did.

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Speaker 6: Everyone's like, oh, you you prick, you pricked we were

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Speaker 6: sabotaged our plans, Like yeah, I mean I'm watching this

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Speaker 6: I'm like, it seems so weird. They have no respect

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Speaker 4: I'm sure of it. You're watching them as an outside observer,

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Speaker 4: that's seeing an edited brousion, Like you gotta put yourself

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Speaker 4: to vote him out? You're like, damn, all that work

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Speaker 4: we put into planning to him the blindside him, Well,

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Speaker 6: But he basically, he basically had his point proved one

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Speaker 6: surely he should have just been raising two middle fingers

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Speaker 4: Out of there, or on Jeremy.

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Speaker 2: Jeremy.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, Jeremy. That's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, yeah, I mean, don't discount gameplay as well, Lee.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've definitely seen that in past seasons where

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Speaker 2: to be safe at the next vote because he's obviously

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Speaker 2: he obviously was their target going into the next tribal council.

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Speaker 4: Trey, you mentioned that sort of exchange between Ben and Jeremy,

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Speaker 4: and I'll make this one an open ended question, So

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Speaker 4: whoever wants to answer it, But who is the bigger

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Speaker 4: to convince each other, no, it's you, No, it's you, No,

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Speaker 4: it's you. What's the answer if you're in your opinion

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Speaker 4: Ben or Jeremy.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, that's a tough question.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I would say going into the episode, Ben

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Speaker 3: But by the end of the.

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Speaker 5: Episode, I mean, Jeremy's the bigger threat, and it feels

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Speaker 4: We also then get Michelle and Kim having a little

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Speaker 4: just like they're very worried they're going to be picked off.

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Speaker 4: I was a little bit confused from this one from

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Speaker 4: Michelle's side of things, because we had discussed last week

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Speaker 4: Michelle threw a vote on Tyson, and you know, you

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Speaker 4: I'm so fascinatd with what is going on with Michelle?

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Speaker 4: Is she just playing absolutely everyone? Or was she legitimately confused?

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Speaker 4: You're just a good actress, I was. I was just

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Speaker 4: weirded out by that. I was like, what's going on

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Speaker 3: Who are you with?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember. Did she say in her confessional

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Speaker 2: he seemed to fall for it, hook line and sinker.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then again at the at the tribal council, she

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Speaker 2: she basically said, you know what I was told to plan,

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Speaker 2: voting tonight. And obviously that was a huge lie because

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Speaker 2: Jeremy came to her right before tribal council and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: she was completely believable there too, So I think she

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Speaker 2: I think she has to know. But again she when

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Speaker 2: we saw her vote for Tyson previously, she had that huge,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: She's a huge liar, a huge liar, but she does

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Speaker 1: it very well. It's those big eyes. She looks vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: She kind of looks like a deer in the headlights.

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Speaker 1: But she, like you said, when she she said that

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Speaker 1: to Kim, she is simply saying, I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: going on. Huge eyes, huge eyes, huge eyes. She's just

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Speaker 1: playing everybody. She plays both sides and then and then

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Speaker 1: of those, you know, the smaller players. I guess that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's flying under the radar big time because it

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Speaker 3: That's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 5: And that's kind of how you just keep skirting by skirting,

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Speaker 1: And a question does the jury appreciate a player like that?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: So perfectly blamed there by Tony, which we'll be saying

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And and holding on to that energy and

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Speaker 3: He was just happy to be getting an advantage.

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Speaker 5: Sprinting through the jungle. It's hard to spread through the jungle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he has so much damn energy. You're right, tray

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Speaker 4: like you're joking about it, but there's like it's sort

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and I guess those the shift work. Being

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Speaker 1: it should be said that he has a bunch of energy,

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Speaker 1: as he said in the Confessionals, I've been patient this

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Speaker 1: and Kim says, which seems to me like the most dire,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, Kim sniffed him out in this episode too, immediately,

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Speaker 4: And he's doing a lot of this too, you know

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Speaker 4: once you have that, you're like, all right, well I

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Speaker 2: It's a real confidence booster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, that's why you make your bed in

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Speaker 1: But he won the immunity challenge last week, and if,

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Speaker 1: as you guys know as survivor experts, he won another

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Speaker 4: No, they're not back to back days, at least according

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Speaker 4: to like the little calendar we're getting in the corner

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Speaker 6: Hay, can we just go back to the extortion. I

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Speaker 6: don't know if it's in your notes or not to you.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, well, well yeah, because I've got some questions

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Speaker 4: All right, hold on to those notes. I had a

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Speaker 4: question for you. Actually, Yeah, would you get up in

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Speaker 6: No way, No way, I did. I was surprised that

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Speaker 6: you know, to the to the jungle there for them

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Speaker 6: It needs to be clear, you know, in clear view,

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Speaker 6: He threw Nick off as well, and then he ended

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Speaker 6: It was a great reward for him. To be one

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're smart players. They know another one is

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Speaker 1: You're right, Yeah, what's Jeremy doing sleeping? He's a firefighter.

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Speaker 1: Get up time to it's your time for your twelve

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Speaker 4: One more thing about that idol. Maybe I'm breaching here,

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Speaker 4: I don't know why in what scenario that would work

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Speaker 5: I think that they showed a scene of him like

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Speaker 5: the bead work that was hanging off his canteen looked

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Speaker 5: so much like his hidden immunity idle them like, is

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Speaker 3: So I mean, maybe you're right.

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Speaker 5: We saw, you know, in past seasons people would just

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Speaker 3: Going all the way up.

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Speaker 5: But it's interesting to see what this guy's gonna be

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, third scene we jumped to day twenty seven,

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Speaker 4: this is, you know, a fun little scene. We get

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Speaker 4: I'll love to get your opinion on this. I loved

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Speaker 4: It's a throwaway scene, of course, but it was. It

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Speaker 2: Let's do this. Let's spend the afternoon putting on this

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Speaker 2: over that's going to happen over the next couple of

437
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 2: weeks between Sarah and Tony, and it's glorious. They played

438
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 2: each other twice, with one each one win each. I

439
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 2: think they're the only two that that have that history together.

440
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 2: The only two times they've played before this, they've played

441
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: each other and each of them won. So it could

442
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 2: come down to the ultimate survivor between the two of them,

443
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 2: and it's awesome, and it's just really the fashion show.

444
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 2: It's there to illustrate how different Sarah is playing to Tony.

445
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 2: I mean, then they made that point. It's like he

446
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 2: plays a completely different game than me. I'm more of

447
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 2: a social player and he's not. Although I think Tony

448
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: is a dangerous social player obviously because he is controlling

449
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 2: the game.

450
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you think when there's a lot more meaning

451
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 4: to Tony saying my pants would sell way faster than

452
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 4: that skirt you made.

453
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 2: I did think that. I think there's a subtext there for.

454
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 4: That was a weird, weird line. But you're right. For

455
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 4: the second week in the vote, from what I can remember,

456
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 4: we're getting like sort of the butting of heads. Yeah,

457
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 4: so to speak of Sarah versus Tony, and and we'll

458
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 4: see what next week brings after the fallout from this

459
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: crazy vote.

460
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: And it's so great that they're both cops as well. Yeah, yeah, it's.

461
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 4: Cops r us as they called himself. This is where

462
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 4: I already mentioned, but Tony goes double agent talks with

463
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 4: Jeremy Kim, Denise Michelle. He's like, basically, I'm going to

464
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 4: infiltrate them get all you know, their knowledge, what their

465
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 4: plans are, and then we can just I can continue

466
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 4: to you know, blindside them. But Kim does sniff it

467
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 4: out immediately. She sees it, she recognizes it, and she's like,

468
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 4: he's doing this, So in a way, I guess I'll

469
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 4: go and do this too, because she sort of becomes

470
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 4: a double agent as well. Fourth scene is Edge of Extinction.

471
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 4: We get a little edge and this one was cool.

472
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 4: I thought it opened up with a really fascinating quote

473
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 4: or little scene that they slipped in here. Tyson is

474
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 4: said he's talking to Wendell. It looks like he's talking

475
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 4: to a couple people, but you hear Tyson. It's more

476
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 4: it sort of blends into a voiceover. But he says

477
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 4: some mentalities can handle it and some can't. It can

478
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 4: ruin people's lives to lose the game. There are a

479
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 4: lot of people that go home and struggle with it

480
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 4: for years for reels. And this was like, it's almost

481
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 4: like breaking the fourth wall in a weird way to me.

482
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 4: Tyson talking about this, and he notes that Adam, he thinks,

483
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 4: is going to have a hard time, you know, He questions, Wendell,

484
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 4: I think you'll be okay. You know, I just thought

485
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 4: this was so interesting in a weird way. It's pretty

486
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 4: rare for Surviving to include something like this. Am I wrong?

487
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 5: Maybe he's projecting though. The guy got voted out twice

488
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 5: in one season, so maybe he's feeling a little underwhelming

489
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 5: with his performance so far.

490
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but then again, I mean he's how many

491
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 4: times has he lost the game?

492
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 3: Right?

493
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 4: Three times?

494
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

495
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: Exactly?

496
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, yeah, no, I hear what you're saying, but

497
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 4: it is it's a cool note that And maybe it's

498
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 4: in there because we even see Sophie when she gets

499
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 4: voted out. She doesn't even know what to do. Yeah,

500
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 4: She's like, I don't know which way to walk, I

501
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 4: don't know how to put this thing in the hole

502
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 4: here for you to snuff it out. I don't know

503
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 4: what I'm doing. I've never lost the game. Maybe that's

504
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 4: why they included that little part of Hey, you're all winners.

505
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 4: A lot of you have never had any sort of

506
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 4: defeat within this game. But it's gonna be a bit

507
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 4: of a rude awakening for some of you.

508
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. It also opens up a nice little storyline for

509
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: the producers to go back to, whether it's at the

510
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: end there and you get all your after shows. I'm

511
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: not sure how many after shows there are on Survivor,

512
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: but it's just a storyline for them to dip back

513
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: into and find Adam's life after the show. It's just

514
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: it's well good producing. Maybe they're evolving here in season forty.

515
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, and it's good. It's just good storytelling as well.

516
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: You just you're ratcheting up the stakes, right, It's just

517
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: like this could ruin your life if you get if

518
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 2: you get voted out here. And when I was watching that,

519
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: I watched it back this morning and I thought, you

520
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: know what, I think that knowing Tyson and he's sort

521
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: of like he's he likes to cause chaos and he

522
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: likes to joke around and stuff. I think Adam was there.

523
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: I think it was one of those yeah, Wendell, you're

524
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: gonna be okay. Adam though, yeah, he's in big trouble.

525
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 2: Like I think he was sitting right there and it

526
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 2: was sort of like a gentle ribbing almost, But then

527
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: the producers took that edited into this awesome stakes building

528
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: se Quinns and it was.

529
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: Great because they got a shot of at him walking

530
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: lonely by himself on the.

531
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: Beach, Yes, looking at that flag forlornly, thinking I could

532
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: just raise that and get the hell out of here.

533
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, ground survival, you gotta walk around confidently at all times.

534
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 5: You're gonna catch a loser at it at some point, like, oh,

535
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 5: he looks sad there for one second.

536
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: Throw it in the app.

537
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna strut around with my chest all puffed

538
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 4: out the entire time I'm out there?

539
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: Was that so happy? He got nine votes?

540
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 4: Just to clarify he wasn't actually alone during that shot

541
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 4: because Yule was sitting right there meditating without his hands.

542
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 2: Does that count as yoga?

543
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 6: Uh?

544
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're counting that as yoga.

545
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 6: Sure?

546
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 4: Is that a pose of some sort of right?

547
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 5: I didn't see his legs, didn't see his arms, so

548
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 5: it's kind of hard to tell.

549
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: He couldn't see his hands.

550
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, inside full lotus.

551
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: Skeets.

552
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 5: I thought you were going to say that you like

553
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 5: the way that a Edge of Extinction started because everybody

554
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 5: was walking around picking up sticks.

555
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 4: It was like me in my backyard for sure. Unfortunately

556
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 4: I didn't find a bottle in my backyard with a

557
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 4: clue inside of it, because that's what Natalie finds sort

558
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 4: of with Poverty. Again, Parverty just is in the right

559
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 4: spot at the right time. Stuff. I laughed out loud though,

560
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 4: and Poverty saw that Natalie found a bottle and she goes, wow,

561
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: somebody had a bottle of wine. It's like what I

562
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: wish so much. This is for you old survivor heads

563
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 4: that Bruce from Exile Island was like like there on

564
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 4: the island waving and figured out his bum issues after

565
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 4: all that winey drank back in Exile Island. Anyway, they

566
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 4: figure out, you know, that the clue. It's a clue,

567
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 4: And after they climb the damn mountain because they always

568
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 4: have to go to the top of the mountain before

569
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 4: they can actually figure it out, they realize it's under

570
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 4: the bed. It's under the shelter, which is gonna be

571
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 4: a problem because on edge of extinction you got nothing

572
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 4: else to do basically except lie in that damn thing.

573
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 4: But as a team maybe it was maybe it worked

574
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 4: out to their advantage in a weird way that they

575
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 4: found it sort of together, Natalie and Poverty because Parverty

576
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 4: is like, oh, let's go watch the sunset or whatever.

577
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 4: Natalie gets a second, gets a chance to reach under

578
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: there and grab it, and that's when we're introduced to

579
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 4: this brand new extortion advantage. So Lee had some questions

580
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 4: banked for this.

581
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we see that that they get the extortion advantage.

582
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 6: But then the next sort of scene is Tony with

583
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 6: that uh no fact that he thinks that he's won something,

584
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 6: and then it's like the extortion is played against him.

585
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 6: Like why didn't we see any sort of communication as

586
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 6: to who they chose and how how they picked Tony?

587
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 4: Well, the I mean poverty says it basically without saying

588
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 4: Tony's name right before we went to commercial breaks. They're like, oh,

589
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 4: who's who's chaotic? Who would do anything for fire tokens?

590
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 4: And then they end with a shot at tone. Yeah

591
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 4: they were telling you though, telling it right right right?

592
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 6: Yeah? Okay, I think I needed it spelled out a

593
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 6: little clearer to me.

594
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 4: We are giving this to Tony, see okay.

595
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 6: But then so then Tony needs to accumulate those six tokens,

596
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 6: which he eventually does pretty well too. Actually, I have

597
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 6: to say he's.

598
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: You know the way the way that he.

599
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 6: Just sort of goes up and says, you know, listen,

600
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 6: I need a token, and everyone just kind of coughs

601
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 6: up straight away, which is great, But then what happens then,

602
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 6: what happens with the extortion because we didn't see it again,

603
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 6: I mean we didn't.

604
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it's just it's off. He's accumulated the tokens,

605
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 4: He's going to hand them over to a producer, and

606
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 4: now he can play in the challenge. I mean, that's it.

607
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, And wouldn't that be My question was obviously Privity

608
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: and Natalie don't get them, right, Natalie should get seven

609
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: and a half of them, and Parverty probably half, but

610
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't receive them, right. It just goes

611
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: into the middle of free parking like a monopoly, right,

612
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: they get them? Oh, they do get them.

613
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, And we would were led to believe, probably that

614
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: they split them. I mean, I would guess now gets three,

615
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 4: poverty gets three. Who knows you're right? Maybe it's four two,

616
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 4: maybe it's.

617
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it should definitely be five to one.

618
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: I already figured out that it was under the shelter, Natalie.

619
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it was Parvty.

620
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 5: I feel like that part was about fifty to fifty.

621
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 5: Parvety is the one who took them to the top.

622
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 5: Of the mountain, that's for sure. And then Natalie says,

623
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 5: do you think it has something to do with our

624
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,239
Speaker 5: camp where we sleep? Yeah, and then Parverty hops in

625
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 5: as she did when Danny found her advantage.

626
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 4: Maybe you just need both brains there.

627
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 5: But uh, I was just shocked to see how willing

628
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 5: everybody was to help Tony. Why would you be like,

629
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 5: you just won an immunity challenge. Why are we giving

630
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 5: you tokens to make it so you could possibly win

631
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 5: another immunity challenge when it would make you an easy

632
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 5: vote right there? But I guess that kind of just

633
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 5: goes the show. He's been playing the social game very

634
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 5: well that people from all different alliances are willing pony up.

635
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: I think it's even less about we want you to

636
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: play in the immunity challenge and yeah that he could win.

637
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: We need you to vote at tribal Council because of

638
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: the way it was set up with only nine people

639
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 4: left and it was looking like it was sort of

640
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 4: five to four, but Tony's flip flopping being the fifth

641
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 4: vote on both sides, and that's why they're like, well, damn, we.

642
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: Need his number.

643
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 4: I guess we need him at tribal council here have

644
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 4: a fire token. That's sort of my read of it.

645
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I get that.

646
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 5: Or you could just say, hey, Tony can't win immunity,

647
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 5: he can't vote, let's all vote on Tony.

648
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, sure that's true. But again, as you say,

649
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: everybody is working with Tony, so why wouldn't they give

650
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: him the token? And it's also it looks bad if

651
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: you don't have a token rights as Michelle had to

652
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: go through, and she was like, I don't have a token,

653
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: and I really need to come up with a convincing

654
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: story as to why I don't have one, because he

655
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: cannot know that I have an advantage in this game.

656
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you JD? You start with you, how

657
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: do you feel about players who have been voted out

658
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: being able to in a way completely screw over someone

659
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: still in the game because they're poverty And Natalie could

660
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 4: have asked for a lot more tokens, let's say, and

661
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: let's just you know, hypothetically, there's no way Tony can

662
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 4: come up with them, so then he's out of the

663
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 4: challenge and out of tribal council. Is that too extreme? Again,

664
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 4: these are people that are voted out of the game already,

665
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: Like they've had advantages that they can help players still

666
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 4: in the game, but now they've got these advantages or

667
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 4: disadvantages whatever you want to call him, that can hurt people.

668
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 4: Is that too much for you or are you fine

669
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 4: with it?

670
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: I mean, if it was any other season, yes it

671
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: would be. But knowing that Edge of Extinction is going

672
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: away and these are all stars, I'm enjoying it. I

673
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: loved it. I loved this wrinkle. It's been one of

674
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: the more creative things that the Survivor gods have come

675
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: up with, and it was just a joy to watch.

676
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: And it was a joy to see Tony go through

677
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 2: the range of emotions when he got the thing, and

678
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: then how he expertly dodged what could have been a

679
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: potentially a fatal blow, like he could have been, as

680
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: you say, not participate in the challenge and get voted

681
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: out and not have a vote, like it could have

682
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: been very, very very bad for him, and Tony with

683
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: the hot hand, he maneuvered it expertly.

684
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess. I mean, I wonder if we would

685
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: be saying, God, I hated this dumb extortion thing if

686
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: Tony does, like get voted out, like Trey said last night,

687
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: like yeah, really, no wrongdoing of his own, just somebody

688
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 4: handed him this thing and he's like completely screwed. But

689
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that is sort of New era Survivor.

690
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, here's a bomb, hold on to it,

691
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: here's a grenade might go off.

692
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: And to be fair, they are all still in the game, right,

693
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: they are still playing the game, and they could any

694
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: one of them could go back in and win this thing,

695
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: so yeah, why not. Yeah, it was fun.

696
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 4: It was fun. Oh, I mean this scene is in

697
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: I mean, this whole thing. So first off, we start

698
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: this day twenty eight, this fifth seen I'm calling it.

699
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 4: We started a little scene of Nick saying he looks

700
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 4: like a vampire. Evil Donathan vampire just throw it in there,

701
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 4: very funny.

702
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and basically everybody agrees with him. They're like, yeah,

703
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: you actually do kind of look like a vampire. You

704
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: have very sharp teeth.

705
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he sort of does.

706
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: It's it, And you mentioned the the sort of meta

707
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: the meta part with Tyson talking about people losing. This

708
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: was another little meta part where we never see castaways

709
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: talk about how they are perceived on the outside world,

710
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: Like Twitter never comes up right, So that's interesting.

711
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, where he's talking about on my Last step

712
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 4: or last season you know they thought of they said

713
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: this about me.

714
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know now I can never not look at

715
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: him and see those vampire teeth.

716
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 4: Then we get Tony sprinting through the jungle. That's right,

717
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 4: because he found something in his bag and he reads

718
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: the note here and this is just such a funny,

719
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: funny scene all because Tony, just because of the type

720
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 4: of person he is, where he thinks it's amazing, he

721
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 4: thinks it's a great thing. Oh my god, this is awesome.

722
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 4: And as he reads and reads and reads, he realizes,

723
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 4: oh god, damn it, this is a horrible and he

724
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 4: like drops the note and then he retells it in

725
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 4: a confession, and it's just as funny. I mean, this

726
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: guy is just incredible television Like leean task, do you

727
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 4: agree with that? Being sort of new fans like, he's

728
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 4: just so charismatic.

729
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 6: He's certainly grown on me. Anyway, I didn't like him

730
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 6: at the start, but yeah, last night was you mentioned

731
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 6: already just how much of a perfect episode it was

732
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 6: for him, and just his sort of joyful you know,

733
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 6: charm sort of really comes shining through and the fact

734
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 6: that he was up and he was down and then

735
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 6: he was up again. I mean, it's it's well edited,

736
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 6: well put together, but it can't be done if it's

737
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 6: not him being just natural by himself anyway. So yeah,

738
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 6: he's definitely someone who at the start I sort of

739
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 6: didn't like, I didn't really you know, have any affection

740
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 6: towards him, but now I do, and see him just

741
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 6: have that run that he did just makes it more

742
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 6: more exciting to see how he's going to go from

743
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 6: here and how he's going to continue to handle it,

744
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 6: because I think he will, you know, he will become

745
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 6: more of a target simply because he's having such a

746
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 6: good run.

747
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: Would you have given him your fire tokens?

748
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: Live?

749
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: Probably he had that charm you.

750
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

751
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 5: It took like one questioners, I need to get some

752
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 5: fire tokens?

753
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: Can I have some? Yeah?

754
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

755
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 6: See I was expecting at this stage of the of

756
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 6: the game that people would just be like, nah, you know,

757
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 6: I need it, I've only got one or whatever, just

758
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 6: trying to get you know, to say no, I can't,

759
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 6: i haven't got one to spare, But instead everyone seemed

760
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 6: to cough up and he said you know, I'll pay

761
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 6: you back. I'll pay you back, like as if that

762
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 6: counts for anything in this game, saying to someone I've

763
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 6: got you, I've got you down the road, don't worry,

764
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 6: I'll get the next round. Like those things don't mean anything,

765
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 6: But you know.

766
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: It's that.

767
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 6: It's that ability to be able to talk and to

768
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 6: be able to convince people without sounding like you're really

769
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 6: trying to you know, use them, or that you might

770
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 6: turn around and stab them in the back. In that

771
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 6: same episode, yeah, it.

772
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: Feels like some of the players though, still have no idea. Really,

773
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: what the hell did fire tokens do? Yeah, because if

774
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: you're not buying a tarp or something, or you're not

775
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 4: buying I guess more right, I don't know. It's like, well,

776
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: what good is this one fire token that I have?

777
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 6: Yeah?

778
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and maybe it will be at the

779
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: end of the game if you're there. Maybe it really

780
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: won't mean anything. It seems like they're just important to

781
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 4: the people on Edge, to you know, employ in the

782
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 4: next challenge to try and get back in the game.

783
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there will be something with

784
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 4: these things. Maybe they'll look back at it and go,

785
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 4: oh damn, I shouldn't have gave up that one because Michelle,

786
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: you said it.

787
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: JD.

788
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: She comes up with that awesome lie right there on

789
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 4: the spot, like she's already used a lot of hers

790
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 4: to buy an advantage. She's got the fifty to fifty coin,

791
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: and you know, she says in a very again right

792
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 4: what appears to be right on the spot, says she

793
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 4: used all her tokens to buy an advantage that should

794
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 4: she be voted out of the game, she could use

795
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 4: at the edge challenge to get back in. That's quick thinking,

796
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 4: Holy crap, because it's like there's a little true in it, oddly,

797
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 4: but it's still obviously a lie, Like that's not what

798
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: she bought with her tokens.

799
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, amazing. I'm in a of her. I mean,

800
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna call it lying. I'm gonna call it

801
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: bluffing because that's kind of what it is. That like

802
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: lie is too harsh. I mean, she just makes everybody

803
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: bluffs in this game. It's like poker, you know. So

804
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: hats off to her. She's dangerous, man.

805
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. So she then takes the extortion note to Jeremy,

806
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 4: who decides, well, like he feels like he's in a

807
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 4: tough spot, I think, and it's like, I sort of

808
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: gotta go with Tony and I need his vote. So

809
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: here's one. I'll give one. And Nick and Ben, Yeah,

810
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 4: you guys said it. They quickly agree to help Tony.

811
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, I'll throw in one, no problem. The

812
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 4: real question is gonna be now that Tony's won two

813
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 4: fire tokens, who does he pay back? Yeah, somebody's left out.

814
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: It's Ben.

815
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 5: Ben's not getting his token left get back. Everybody else

816
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 5: voted with Tony.

817
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 4: E good point, good point, good point. Yeah, hopefully get well.

818
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 4: We get a little scene next week about that. The

819
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 4: next THINGE it's the immunity challenge. I don't think there's

820
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: a lot to talk about with this one. It's pretty

821
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: damn simple. Players are standing on a narrow beam there.

822
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 4: They're balancing a statue at the end of a long pole.

823
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: Not my favorite type of immunity challenge, but comes down

824
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 4: to Tony, Jeremy and Ben, and then those two final guys,

825
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 4: Jeremy Ben. They drop within seconds of each other after

826
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 4: what Jeff Prope say, like thirty two minutes.

827
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, I think he said it was a record.

828
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 4: For the record that one. So Tony wins his second

829
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 4: straight immunity.

830
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 6: Hey, just one thing on that too. When Sophie fell off,

831
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 6: she kind of almost stumbled into Jeremy. Now, if that

832
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 6: was to happen and obviously knock him out, what would

833
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 6: happen then?

834
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 4: A great question. I've thought about that before. Lee, like

835
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: in anger, if I were to like throw my pole

836
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 4: or something and it hits the other person beside, I

837
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 4: think they would re I don't know, my gut says

838
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 4: they would reset the challenge to what had just you know, before,

839
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: what had just occurred. But you can't just you can't

840
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: just walk up and push somebody off.

841
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 6: But she, you know, just the way that she sort

842
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 6: of loved it. Yeah, yeah, I lost the balance. And

843
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 6: even even you don't even have to touch someone, it's

844
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 6: just that sort of like flinching almost that if someone.

845
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: Throw line move, really, I would definitely be distracted by

846
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: I thought there was plenty of them, even it's easy

847
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: to be distracted. I would be anyway.

848
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean Jeremy drops again immediately after Ben,

849
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: like was he distracted or did he just feel more

850
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: comfortable because Ben hadn't won, So he's like okay, Well,

851
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 4: at least Tony has won. That's better for me. I

852
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 4: don't know, or was it just pure coincidence that he

853
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: was like lasted right basically to the exact same second

854
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 4: as Ben. I'm not sure. The next scene though, back

855
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 4: at camp, time to figure out who to vote for.

856
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: Always uh well. Usually one of the best episodes are scenes,

857
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 4: I should say. In an episode, Kim talks with Sarah, Ben, Sophie,

858
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 4: and Nick and the plan is formulated that they're all

859
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: gonna vote for Jeremy, but just in case he's got

860
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 4: something else, you know, up his sleeve, they're gonna throw

861
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: two votes on Michelle. Sarah and Kim decide we'll vote

862
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 4: for Michelle just in case that's the backup. Everybody else

863
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: vote for Jeremy. Cool, this will be a very simple

864
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: day here. Kim and Denise then go talk with Jeremy

865
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 4: at the water well and they agree to vote out Ben.

866
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 4: Now now we know Kim and Denise are lying to

867
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 4: Jeremy because they're going to vote ou Jeremy. But they say,

868
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: then we get that, you know, we get this little

869
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 4: sort of build up of Jeremy hating Ben. They thought

870
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 4: he was a cool dude to begin with. Now everything

871
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 4: he does just irritates him, which is funny. And so

872
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 4: everyone appears pretty comfortable with the plan that they think

873
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 4: is going to happen. And so that's when we get

874
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 4: like this little thing of like Ben's talking about how

875
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: easy it is to spend a million dollars and Nick

876
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: smelling his armpits, and we got people playing checkers like

877
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: it's just pretty it's pretty low key, so to speak.

878
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: Right until they go to tribal council and Tony goes,

879
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 4: I've been patient long enough, let's do this. I got

880
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 4: a Muni necklace again. Now I've gotten idol. I'm feeling good.

881
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: And he goes to Nick and he breaks it all down.

882
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 4: He says, look, they're splitting the vote, so we don't

883
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: need a lot of votes to make this happen. We

884
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 4: need four votes to vote for whoever we want. Let's

885
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 4: make it Sophie. And he comes up with the four

886
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 4: three to two vote. He gets Nick on board very quickly,

887
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 4: like Nick's like okay, I'm in yeah, even to the

888
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 4: point where Tony's almost a little taken back by how

889
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 4: easy that was. Yeah, with Nick like oh okay, you're right, Okay, awesome.

890
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,959
Speaker 2: So I've suspected Nick's been floating along this whole time,

891
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: and that that sealed it for me. I mean he

892
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: is he is just going with the flow and doing

893
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: whatever he can do to stay in the game and

894
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: just taking orders from whoever whoever doles'm at.

895
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's voted with Tony every time since the merge though,

896
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 5: So maybe they are closer than we're really thinking. And

897
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 5: I mean, he coughed up that coin just as easy

898
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 5: as he coughed up his vote, So maybe they are

899
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 5: more incahoots than we're thinking. Maybe the reason he was

900
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 5: up early isn't because he's a vampire.

901
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 3: Maybe they're just close.

902
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know, you might be right. And look,

903
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: if Nick wants to win this game, that's fine, stay

904
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 4: attached to Tony, but then backstab him right before the end.

905
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 4: Because Tony is no doubt looking at Nick going, oh

906
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 4: you're coming with me, You're sitting beside me at the end,

907
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 4: and you're not. You don't stand a chance to beat

908
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 4: me at the end.

909
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: I think, oh, yeah, he's got sharp teeth, but he's

910
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: still a goat.

911
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 4: Yeah that's right, sharp teeth to cut through those cut

912
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 4: through the can like. So Tony goes to Jeremy very

913
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 4: very late. Again, this is we're told right before they're

914
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 4: going to head to tribal councils. So he saves us

915
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: right to the end. And this pitch to Jeremy is,

916
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, a lot more difficult of the cell

917
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 4: to convince Jeremy like, hey man, they're coming for you.

918
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: I'm telling you the truth, and if you don't vote

919
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 4: with me, your ass is gone. You're gonna be on edge.

920
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: And you know, we had to tribal council not really

921
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 4: knowing if Tony was successful in convincing Jeremy and flipping

922
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: the script, we'll get to tribal council. And well we

923
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 4: learned that he was. We get the pretty rare four

924
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 4: three two vote. Yeah, this doesn't happen a lot Tass

925
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: and Lee where this type of vote, the plurality split,

926
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: if you want to call it that. Siri Fields way

927
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: back in the day was I guess she gets a

928
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: lot of the credit for coming up with it sort

929
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: of first it wasn't four three two with her. I

930
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 4: think it was like a three two to one, but

931
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 4: same idea, and uh, yeah, Sophie's voted out crazy and

932
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 4: with the idol in her pocket, as she tells everybody when.

933
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 6: She's said, yeah, that's crazy because because I mean, I

934
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 6: could understand why she thought she was safe too, there

935
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 6: was no real heat on her. But of course that's

936
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 6: probably when you're most dangerous. But what happens in the

937
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 6: tie if there is a.

938
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: Tie, if there's a if there's a tie, vote yes,

939
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: so they'll vote again, but you can only vote for

940
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 2: the two people who are in the ties, right, guys.

941
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: And then if it's there's a tie again, then they

942
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: will draw rocks. And basically it's literally a flip of

943
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: the coin to and it's happened before where people, uh,

944
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: someone has left because they just happened to pull the

945
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: wrong rock out of the bag.

946
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: Wow. And then to add to that wrinkle with the

947
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: rock pulling, at that point, it's the people you've been

948
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 4: debating who to vote out.

949
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: Are actually safe, that's right.

950
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: So it's everybody else. So it's in your best interest

951
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: if you're a part of the everybody else, to just

952
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 4: come to a damn conclusion or flip and get rid

953
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 4: of somebody so you don't have to pull a damn rock.

954
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 4: But it happens, yeah, right, it's definitely happened.

955
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 6: Before Yeah, you know, during during the sort of question

956
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 6: and answered time there that Jeff Jeff has with the cast,

957
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 6: he reminds me a little bit of Steve Irwin because

958
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 6: he's so excited and he's so he's so emotional.

959
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: Like, Hey, you don't know what's going on.

960
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 6: You're talking to these people. It's chopping and changing all through.

961
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 6: How do you feel.

962
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 4: Coming into this?

963
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 6: It's just like Steve's Yeah.

964
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 5: Have a look at you look at the boat on

965
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 5: this one.

966
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 4: The talk at this tribal council is a lot about

967
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 4: that building a resume, but the risks that can come

968
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 4: with that. And then we get the discussion about how

969
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: quiet it was at camp leading up to tribal council

970
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 4: and Sarah describing it I think as mass psychological warfare,

971
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 4: and for some reason Girl Scouts catches astray from Sophie.

972
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 4: That was harsh, but yeah, and then she she gets

973
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: completely blindsided. She had no idea, no no chance.

974
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was hard to watch for her.

975
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, it felt bad for her, so so kerfuffled,

976
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: you know, like, oh my god.

977
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: Oh just weeks to the incredible move by Tony though, right,

978
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: but nobody knew it was coming. He saw the nots.

979
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: He also saw the sun going down, as he said,

980
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: the sun's going down right before tribal council. That's when

981
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm pouncing. That's when I'm going to discuss with Jeremy.

982
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: So it's fresh on his brain. He's got he's working

983
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: twenty four hours around the clock. He knows he's up

984
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: in the morning sundown. He's got it all under control. Well,

985
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: he's got the sun dial going at all times.

986
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: Fresh, fresh on Jeremy's brain. Yes, but also doesn't give

987
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: anybody a chance to do anything about it that It

988
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: doesn't give Nick a chance to go say Sophia, hey there,

989
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: we're coming for you kind of thing, and give her

990
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: a chance to do some damage control. It's brilliant. It

991
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 2: was perfectly played.

992
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 6: Does does Sophie's unused immunity also now get thrown back

993
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 6: into the mix.

994
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 4: It's possible, Yeah, it's possible.

995
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 6: And when when did she get hose? Because I ought

996
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 6: to recall that happening though, I mean, she must have

997
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 6: had that for a long time, long early.

998
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was.

999
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 4: Really early in the game, maybe before before we were

1000
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 4: even doing No Buss. I can't remember.

1001
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 6: I think, Yeah, because I certainly didn't know she had one,

1002
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 6: and I don't remember I don't really remember anyone actually

1003
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 6: getting one in our time watching it for myself in task.

1004
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 6: But yeah, so that was a surprise when she said,

1005
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 6: and I'm like, oh my god, I how devastating must

1006
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 6: that be when you've got that and you can't use it?

1007
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 6: I mean crazy, But.

1008
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, it happens a lot. It happens a lot where

1009
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 4: people go home with the idol in their podcast because

1010
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 4: you're just you want to know, it is that classic

1011
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: case you're trying to be a little greedy, right, You're like, well,

1012
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: for sure, feel good here, could really maybe use it

1013
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: the next week or the next tribal council, so I'll

1014
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 4: hold on to it. Yeah, it happens.

1015
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 5: Well, And if you think about the previous episode, Sophie

1016
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 5: basically called the shot on that one. Right, let's all

1017
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 5: huddle up and talk about what we're gonna do. Well,

1018
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 5: we're going to be doing she called the vote on that.

1019
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 5: Then they go to tribal console, no whispering for the

1020
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 5: first time in weeks. So it seems like everybody's on

1021
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 5: the same plan, right, even Tony's like, we had a

1022
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 5: plan that we stuck to and we're going to stick

1023
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 5: to it.

1024
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: He played it so cool. I thought that. I was like, Oh,

1025
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 3: Sophie is in big time trouble here.

1026
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 5: It seems like he was playing her, and it seemed

1027
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 5: like he was so happy to take a back seat

1028
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 5: for a guy who had been driving the whole episode.

1029
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 5: You just had to be like, uh, oh, she's gonna

1030
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 5: have no idea it was coming. And obviously that was

1031
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 5: the case. It would be awesome if she gets to

1032
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 5: take that idol with her to Edge of Extinction. Who

1033
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 5: knows if she would ever make it back, But if

1034
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 5: she did, then I don't know. I mean, they're given

1035
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 5: so many advantages. Why shouldn't you be able to keep

1036
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 5: your ido if you're still technically in the game.

1037
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 4: Right right, You're saying, if she wins her way back

1038
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: in that the idol should still be playable, right, still

1039
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 4: have its power?

1040
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: Sure? Why not? I mean everything else is up for grabs.

1041
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that's the case, but I'm with you.

1042
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 4: It's like, why shouldn't it if she got her way

1043
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 4: back into the game.

1044
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: I wonder if she could have taken it and put

1045
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: it and willed it to somebody with her with the

1046
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: fire token. I guess not, but who knows.

1047
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, she should. She should have just said, hey, Jeff,

1048
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: can you hold onto this for me? Might be back

1049
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: here and then I'll just ask for her back. Should

1050
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 4: have done that. On her way out, she bequeaths her

1051
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 4: tokens to Sarah, and Kim is who she dropped. So

1052
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 4: here's the real question as we head into the next

1053
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 4: time on Survivor, the Little Teas Sarah livid with Tony.

1054
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,959
Speaker 4: Tony's up in a damn spy nest now he's taking

1055
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 4: it to the sky, and Kim talks about this idea

1056
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 4: that we got to make a move on Tony. So

1057
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 4: I want to know the fallout between Sarah and Tony

1058
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: because Sarah has She's gone through this before with Tony

1059
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 4: on previous seasons where he screws her. He doesn't tell

1060
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 4: her the plan, and you know in the past they've

1061
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 4: patched things up. I think in Ky they patched things

1062
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 4: up and then he did it again to her. So

1063
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 4: I'm skeptical that Tony can sort of get Sarah back

1064
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 4: into his good grace.

1065
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she looks pretty upset because at Tribal Console

1066
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 5: it really felt like she was pitching her case already

1067
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 5: to the jury, talking about building a resume in a

1068
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 5: way that made it seem like, hey, guess who's building

1069
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 5: a resume.

1070
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 3: It's actually me.

1071
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 5: I'm really riding high right here, and then to have

1072
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 5: Tony take the upper hand from her without you know,

1073
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 5: she's thinking there together and he steals the upper hand

1074
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 5: from her with like.

1075
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 3: An amazing move and an amazing three days. Surely she's furious.

1076
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is the showdown we're getting next week.

1077
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be well, it seems to be

1078
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: if we're going by votes. We got Michelle, Tony, Jeremy

1079
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: and Nick on one side, Ben Kim, Denise and Sarah on

1080
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: the other. So it's Tony versus Sarah, and it's gonna

1081
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: be awesome.

1082
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a yeah, I mean, or I guess the

1083
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 4: only other thing that could happen is she sort of

1084
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 4: pretends that she's okay with what happened, you know, for

1085
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 4: a voter two and then backstabs over or tries to

1086
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: I mean one of the yeah that's which, which could

1087
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: be a play for her, you know, just go pretend

1088
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 4: it's all right, okay, all classic Tony, You just you

1089
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 4: just can't you know, can't You can't keep it under control,

1090
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 4: That's just who you are. And just placate him for

1091
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 4: a week or two and then you know, build up

1092
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 4: the numbers to stab him and blindside him. That's possible too. Yeah,

1093
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 4: only eat remain guys, four guys, four girls, Tony, Nick, Jeremy,

1094
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 4: Ben and then Sarah, Kim, Denise and Mitchell And just

1095
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 4: so everybody remembers, Michelle's got the fifty to fifty and

1096
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: Tony's got them Munity.

1097
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: Titol was Mitchell Michelle?

1098
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: Did I say Mitchell?

1099
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Denise Mitchell?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 2: for the moment.

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Speaker 4: Who do you think would sell more pants, Tony or

1132
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 4: the Black Tucks.

1133
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: A little bit push?

1134
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: I think yeah, probably from JD you would be buying

1135
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: Tony's line for sure. He loves the cargo pockets.

1136
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: So those he's got those cargo pants that turn into shorts. Yeah,

1137
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 2: that's a supreme da move.

1138
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah you can see, you can see. Uh, he reveals

1139
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: just below his knees there as he's lurking around those

1140
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 1: tops in the bottoms connected wear pants.

1141
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 6: I haven't seeing those that would big around. That would

1142
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 6: be around the start of the century, around two thousand,

1143
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 6: but I haven't seen too many of them.

1144
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: Lightly, everything comes back.

1145
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, all right, let's move on to tree mail.

1146
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: I got this one. What's up, No buffs. I recently

1147
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 1: just applied to get casted on a season of Survivor.

1148
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: I believe that with some luck and my strong personality

1149
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: that I'll be able to get on the show. I'll

1150
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: I'll definitely give you guys a shout out when I win.

1151
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you guys have ever applied or

1152
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: ever thought of applying, because I know you guys would

1153
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: kill it just from a plane entertainment standpoint. I'll keep

1154
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: you guys updated if I ever get the call. It's

1155
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: from Dari's in the three oh five. So who has applied?

1156
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: There's been some appliers out there.

1157
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: I've done it.

1158
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 5: I went to an open casting call probably two thousand

1159
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 5: and nine. It was at a mattress plus. So you're

1160
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 5: just waiting in a real long line, snaking around mattresses

1161
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 5: that you can't even lay on, and they get you

1162
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 5: fill out, you know, your little paperwork with all your information,

1163
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 5: why you want to be on Survivor, all this kind

1164
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 5: of stuff. Then you go and get in front of

1165
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 5: a camera and talk about why you want to be

1166
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 5: on Survivor.

1167
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 3: And I blew it.

1168
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 5: I knew as soon as I was doing well, they're

1169
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 5: never going to call me back. I just I didn't

1170
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 5: have I didn't have the charisma right man. I wasn't

1171
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 5: ready for it. But that's good because you know it's

1172
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 5: eleven years later now, so now is the time. Now's

1173
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 5: the time, And tweeted Jeff props, get me on Survivor already.

1174
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 6: You know the way you're looking right now, Trey, I

1175
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 6: think I'll give you a strong advantage too. You've got

1176
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 6: the big, bushy beard, the hair, the glasses. You're looking

1177
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 6: pretty chilled out. I think I think you'd be a strong,

1178
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 6: strong candidate right now.

1179
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for saying that.

1180
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 5: I do feel a little like Wendel and he was

1181
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 5: talking about the first time he applied, and he's like

1182
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 5: looking like a square.

1183
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: He's like, look cool, same with.

1184
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 5: Me, Like I got a way cooler look now, a

1185
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 5: way more notable look that you might.

1186
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,959
Speaker 3: Say, yeah, we could throw that game on TV.

1187
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 6: I actually looked into this. I went to the CBS

1188
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 6: casting and you need to be a US or Canadian

1189
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 6: passport holder, so I can. I can get my Canadian passport,

1190
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 6: but not while I'm living in the US, so I'm

1191
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 6: gonna have to wait until i move back there. But

1192
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 6: I've turned full circle. I would absolutely love to go

1193
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 6: on Survivor right now. I think I think if you

1194
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 6: go in as well, a little bit older, you've got

1195
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 6: a bit more of a like, I don't really care

1196
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 6: if I win or lose. I just want to go

1197
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 6: and have some fun and just see what happens and

1198
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 6: see where it can takes me. You know, I think

1199
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 6: earlier on, if you're like in your twenties, I think

1200
00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 6: you're more sort of like I want to go on.

1201
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 6: I want to win, I want to be your champion.

1202
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 6: But now I'm just like, I think I'd have fun

1203
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 6: no matter what, even if I got voted off first.

1204
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 6: If you're like sweet, I went to Fiji for a

1205
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 6: couple of weeks.

1206
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: It was full, it was fun, It's cool.

1207
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Yeah.

1208
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: You'd be the real Denise out there. I'll cut up

1209
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: in your forties just hanging out.

1210
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 6: I would be, because I really don't think I would

1211
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 6: be too bothered about You know, you've got to be

1212
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 6: friends with people like you know everyone else is going

1213
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 6: to try to screw you over, so there's no need

1214
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 6: to even start to try to trust anyone. You just

1215
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,959
Speaker 6: go out there and just be like, I'm just gonna

1216
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 6: go with it and see what happens manly.

1217
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 4: If you ever can apply, be it for the US

1218
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 4: version or the Australian version, which is a real thing

1219
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 4: and people love Australian survivor. I've never dipped in yet.

1220
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 4: I'm saving it for a rainy day. I'm saving it

1221
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 4: for another pandemic. But what was I gonna say, Oh,

1222
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 4: you should go in? Lee like totally as just like

1223
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 4: the h why not, Like I don't care, like don't

1224
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 4: go in, and not that you would, but I like

1225
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 4: the idea of you, just like I just want to

1226
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 4: be here, just want to be in Fiji for a

1227
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 4: week or two, because you get a couple of those

1228
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 4: people sprinkled in. It's not all die hard Survivor fans,

1229
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 4: not always well.

1230
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 6: And that's that's what I'm saying. I think I would

1231
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 6: be like that. I'd be like, you know what, I

1232
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 6: got a trip bad.

1233
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 4: Here to Fiji.

1234
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 6: I've never been here before. I'm gonna have a few

1235
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 6: stories for a pod when I get home, so it's

1236
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 6: gonna be way wain, you know, I like.

1237
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 4: I like Tray's chances though too, because obviously the look

1238
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: you got a cool, like you know, unique, I guess

1239
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 4: sort of profession, right, a podcaster that's sort of interesting,

1240
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 4: sort of different at least. And this goes for all

1241
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: of us really, and you were saying it lead we're

1242
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 4: all a little bit older and they need some older

1243
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 4: people on Survivor, so that's good. That helps our chances.

1244
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 4: And to answer the question, no, I've never applied. A

1245
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 4: big part of it was until recently, you couldn't be

1246
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 4: Canadian and apply to get on the US Survivor. That's

1247
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 4: changed now, so it's in the works. I will be

1248
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 4: trying to get on this damn thing.

1249
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: I have never applied every time, Jeff, come on, with

1250
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: that little burp segment we're looking for gastaways applying out.

1251
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: My son turns to me every time and says, you

1252
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: gotta do it, Dad, So you know I'll apply. Why not?

1253
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't wanna. I feel like I'd be cutting Tray's

1254
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: grass a little bit, except I'm way older, but you know,

1255
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: the bearded old guy. I mean, I don't think we'd

1256
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: be on the same season, that's for sure.

1257
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 5: I love the idea of all three of us getting

1258
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 5: cast and then we show up, are like, what because

1259
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 5: we actually can't tell anybody that we're going to be

1260
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 5: on the show.

1261
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 3: We're here. Lee strolls up since like, hey, Guss from Pakistan.

1262
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:39,959
Speaker 3: Great to meet y'all.

1263
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: I was.

1264
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: I was listening to Rob has a podcast yesterday and

1265
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: he had Shane Powers on, who is one of the

1266
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: more eccentric castaways that have ever been on the show.

1267
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: And he's a real bitter guy too. But he when

1268
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: he got on, he was talking about how his his

1269
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: application tape was basically him telling the producers why there

1270
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: was no chance he was going to win the game,

1271
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: right like he was. He was just this is the

1272
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: reason I'm not gonna win. He held up coffee, and

1273
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: famously he you know, he arrived on the island and

1274
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: he quit smoking cold turkey that day the day they

1275
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: arrived on the on the island and coffee. He's like

1276
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: a caffeine fiend. So and he basically said, Hey, I'm

1277
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: gonna be I'm gonna be crusty the whole time, and

1278
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna win because I'm gonna be ornery and

1279
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna hate my guts. So that's a that's a

1280
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: that's a tax to take. He was right, He was right,

1281
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: He was right.

1282
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 4: He's a shape Powers good friends with Ben Lyons.

1283
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: Yes, really talked.

1284
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can get Shamee Powers on this podcast. Maybe

1285
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 4: we should.

1286
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: We got a quick question.

1287
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: You guys mentioned Wendell there and him saying that he

1288
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: was a duiebis the first time he applied or whatever.

1289
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: Yesterday he tweeted, last night he tweeted, this has been

1290
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: the longest episode of Survivor ever and I'm here for it.

1291
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: Why did he tweet that?

1292
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 4: What did he mean by that the longest?

1293
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 2: The longest?

1294
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 4: I don't know, great question.

1295
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 5: I know there was a lot of back and forth,

1296
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 5: like who's who's voting for?

1297
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: Who?

1298
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 5: I suppose I guess we got a lot more strategy

1299
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 5: than we've been getting from previous episodes, especially the loved

1300
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 5: Ones episode.

1301
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know though, or is the anti Tony?

1302
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where my mind went immediately, But I didn't

1303
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 4: think he was.

1304
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to think at our interview with him,

1305
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: did he did he say anything negative or positive about Tony?

1306
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: I don't even know if he came up.

1307
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it was.

1308
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the strategy angle and that it was just

1309
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: a lot of chatter and the the immunity challenge wasn't

1310
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: until later in the episode, because he also tweeted yo

1311
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: Tony's change of tone smiling, crying face face, So it

1312
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: seems like he likes Tony. But I was just curious

1313
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: because I think he's the only Survivor player I follow,

1314
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: And I was confused because I was I was enjoying

1315
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: the episode.

1316
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 4: This one definitely had the most strategy we've seen in

1317
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 4: a Survivor episode in a while, like this season.

1318
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: But they're playing the game now, isn't That's probably that's

1319
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: probably how it happens, right.

1320
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, all right, Well, before we wrap this up,

1321
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 4: MVP of the episode, who wants to get it started.

1322
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 4: Who you giving an m VP two to this one?

1323
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 4: And I guess, is it Tony?

1324
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: Anyone?

1325
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 6: It has to be Tony. It has to be Tony.

1326
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 6: I think he played it perfectly from the start, back

1327
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 6: to back community wins and then at the end and

1328
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 6: tribal counsel he was maneuvering as well.

1329
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 4: Then okay, well, then here the follow up question is

1330
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 4: has Tony done too much too soon? Like is this

1331
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 4: going to blow up in his face? And like Kim

1332
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 4: has sort of said, and like some others out there

1333
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 4: have said, like, oh my god, Now he's winning immunities

1334
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 4: and he's making all these big moves and he's double

1335
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 4: agent and he's flip flopping, and he's Tony for crying

1336
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 4: it loud. He doesn't even have a vote against him.

1337
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 4: He's going to win this thing. Let's get rid of

1338
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 4: him now.

1339
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: He's He's really the Golden State Warriors right now. Ethan

1340
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: Sherwood Shruss is going to write a book on Tony.

1341
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 4: The Victory Machine.

1342
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: I think it's perfect timing for him. There's only eight

1343
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: people left. I don't think it's too early. He also

1344
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: has an idol in his pocket. He still has an

1345
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: alliance even though he's been a double agent. The only

1346
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: move I didn't like, and it pales in comparison to

1347
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: the move that the jury has to look at as

1348
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: the biggest move of the game thus far. They have

1349
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: to be admiring what he did. The only thing I

1350
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: didn't like, and this is just editing. But after Sophie

1351
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: skulked away and walked away, he giggled to himself during

1352
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: tribal council. He laughed, He turned to himself like he

1353
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: was five years old, and someone farted that. You just

1354
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: can't do that. You made a great move. And I'm

1355
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: not sure where it was in the edit that they

1356
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: just found it and placed it there perfectly, but not

1357
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: a good look. If anybody else saw it, but I

1358
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: doubt it. He's in the back row, so it's probably

1359
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: just for the for us to hate him a little bit.

1360
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: And I'm giving my MVP to JD because his keyboard

1361
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: went out before the show, but it just went to

1362
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: edge of extinction and came.

1363
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 4: Back its way back.

1364
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, Tess painted a great picture earlier in

1365
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: the show when he was talking about Kim talking about

1366
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 2: Tony and how she's realized there's a killer among us.

1367
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 2: And he's the guy, he's the biggest threat in the game,

1368
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: which he is, and it's it was sort of like

1369
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: watching a horror movie, but from the killer's perspective, this

1370
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: whole episode, where it's just this guy is running a

1371
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 2: muck and he is unstoppable, and if he didn't have

1372
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: an immunity idol in his back pocket, I would say

1373
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 2: that he was probably going home next week. But you know,

1374
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't count him out at this point.

1375
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got an immunity idol, and it seems like

1376
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 5: he's got an incredible read on where everybody's alliances are

1377
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 5: so far in Survivor. But you know, as soon as

1378
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 5: he doesn't win an actual immunity challenge, everything is up

1379
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 5: for grabs, and maybe they're able to pull one over

1380
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 5: his eyes. And I don't know, I mean, I don't

1381
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 5: think it was a coincidence that he wanted to keep

1382
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 5: Jeremy around. We know that Tony and Jeremy like to

1383
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,479
Speaker 5: keep meat shields around. It seems like Ben is into

1384
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 5: that too. So those three guys I think are kind

1385
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 5: of always gonna be in the crosshairs at least until

1386
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 5: one of them is gone. But I mean, Tony finding

1387
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 5: an idol. That's that's tough.

1388
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's eight people left, Like we said, someone is

1389
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 4: coming back into the game though, So there's in theory

1390
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 4: nine people still left and there are three episodes remaining.

1391
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: Oh so the episode, so we should be somebody's coming

1392
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: back next week.

1393
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 4: Then yes, I sort of have to think so yeah

1394
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 4: crazy unless yeah, I mean I'm trying to remember when

1395
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 4: Chris came back and ultimately won. He came back really

1396
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 4: late JD. I mean it may have been the second

1397
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 4: last episode, right, I think about it, but like, yeah,

1398
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 4: we are. We got just so many people left for

1399
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 4: only three episodes, and I know the last one is

1400
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 4: like overall, like a three hour season finale, so it's

1401
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 4: like a double episode. But maybe we get them if

1402
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 4: it's not next week or the week after two people

1403
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 4: voted out, because I can't see them heading into the

1404
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 4: final with seven people remaining. Yeah, that seems insane.

1405
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 5: But Chris came back on day thirty five, okay, which

1406
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 5: is really late.

1407
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 4: Probably be the second last episode, yeah, it seems like it. Yeah,

1408
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 4: so yeah we will see and then yeah, someone I

1409
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 4: guess poverty if she gets three of those fire tokens,

1410
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 4: like if they split at her and Natalie, the six

1411
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 4: of them. Poverty got a ton from the Michelle thing.

1412
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: Right did she spent it? She spent something on peanut butter.

1413
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 4: Oh right, right, right, she did? She did? Yeah, that's

1414
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 4: good point, good point. Fire tokens man tough to keep

1415
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 4: track of. Oo's got them? What are you using them on?

1416
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 4: What do they even mean? What will they do? We

1417
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 4: will find out. Get your questions in for next week's

1418
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 4: No Buffs episode. Email them in No Dunk at the

1419
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 4: Athletic dot com. Make sure you throw survivor in the subject.

1420
01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 4: Coming up on Friday tomorrow, we're reviewing the Ben Affleck

1421
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 4: basketball movie The Wee Back for a brand new episode

1422
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 4: of Film Session. Has anybody watched this yet?

1423
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 3: I watched it.

1424
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 6: I started to yeh, it was that fair?

1425
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know? I mean, is it gonna go in

1426
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 3: the pantheon of basketball movies? I don't know about that,

1427
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 3: but I enjoyed it. I will say this spoiler alert,

1428
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 3: better than Coach Carter.

1429
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 4: Oh okay, Lee, you've started.

1430
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1431
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 6: I started. Yeah, I'm about forty minutes into it, so it.

1432
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 4: Must have been a great movie. Just turn it on.

1433
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 3: Ah, Well, it's.

1434
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 6: More about just you know, I didn't really want to

1435
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 6: sit through the whole thing last night. I wanted to

1436
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 6: get a bit of a taste for it to see

1437
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 6: what sort of mood i'd need to be in to

1438
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 6: finish it off.

1439
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 4: And yeah, so far, so good. Wow did you do

1440
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 4: this with other movies?

1441
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 6: With most movies that we watch except for air Bud? Yeah, yeah,

1442
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 6: because because I mean uncut Gems, I couldn't sit through

1443
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 6: the whole thing in one sitting. It was I was

1444
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 6: just exhausted after about the first forty five minutes.

1445
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 5: So so you're saying Airbud is the one that just

1446
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 5: kept you glued to the screen.

1447
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 6: No, it was like, all right, I can sit through this,

1448
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 6: you know, Like the Uncut Gems was just like, oh man,

1449
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 6: I need a break, Like it's just so intense. I

1450
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 6: needed to come down a little bit.

1451
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 4: But Hi, I'm Jeff Probees.

1452
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 2: Lee.

1453
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 4: Tell me something about yourself. Yeah, I like to watch

1454
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 4: a movie for about thirty forty minutes then I just

1455
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 4: stop it. See what type of mood I need to

1456
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 4: be in to finish it, Lee, it's crazy.

1457
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 6: Tell me about your movie watching strategy.

1458
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 4: It sounds crazy.

1459
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: Jeff pros Spiels could be from season four, season five,

1460
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: season six, season seven, You just interject them anywhere.

1461
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,959
Speaker 6: I think I've got a professional crush on Jeff Prochs.

1462
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 6: I think he's great.

1463
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 2: All right, get a line man, getting a line.

1464
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 4: Task, JD. Have you started the way back?

1465
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: I haven't yet, So well, I haven't started a bit

1466
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 2: simply because I didn't have a segment of time that

1467
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: I could sit through the whole thing. Because that's how

1468
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: you watch movies. You watch them from beginning to end,

1469
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 2: and that's that's how I enjoy them. Lee, We'll only

1470
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 2: watch Airbud in its entirety or anything on a plane

1471
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 2: because he's Yeah.

1472
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 6: I watched I watched Parasit all the way through, j D.

1473
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 6: When we when I watched that.

1474
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: A few weeks, Yeah, and you liked it?

1475
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 6: I did, Yeah, But I was also exhausted after that

1476
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 6: one too, I mean exhausted, Oh, emotionally exhausted.

1477
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: It's emotionally exhausting there, all.

1478
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 4: Right, guys, the way back That is Fridays of film Session.

1479
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 4: So do your homework and watch that Ben Affleck movie

1480
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 4: with us. Until then, the tribe is spoken