Speaker 1: Welcome to Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz. Ben Ferguson with
Speaker 1: your senator. Nice to be with you today, except we're
Speaker 1: in different places on this episode. For people, they're like, wait,
Speaker 1: why aren't they in the same room. I had to
Speaker 1: fly back to my hometown of Memphis to check out
Speaker 1: my dad, who is in the hospital. He is doing okay,
Speaker 1: but that's why we're remote today. And Senator, it's going
Speaker 1: to be with you as always. Ben, Great to be
Speaker 1: with you. A lot going on in the world, and
Speaker 1: hope your dad continues to do better. He is doing well,
Speaker 1: Thank goodness. Let's start in on this big issue, and
Speaker 1: that is we have a game plan now from the
Speaker 1: President of the United States of America to fix the
Speaker 1: problems at the border. And he's decided that if we
Speaker 1: just use woke terminology, all the issues of the border
Speaker 1: are gonna go away. Let's just let you get your
Speaker 1: initial reaction to some of these terminologies the presidents decide
Speaker 1: to use while visiting apparently the president in Mexico. This
Speaker 1: is what their master plan is. Yeah, look, it's even
Speaker 1: worse than that. So in the last few days, Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: they're good news and bad news Joe Biden has done
Speaker 1: more in the last few days on our southern border
Speaker 1: than he has the entirety of his presidency. That's the
Speaker 1: good news. The bad news is everything he's done is bad.
Speaker 1: He flew down to the southern border. He went to
Speaker 1: El Paso, not the Rio Grand Valley, which is the
Speaker 1: epicenter of the disaster. Before he arrived in El Paso,
Speaker 1: there had been illegal immigrants sleeping on the streets. The
Speaker 1: mayor had declared an emergency. So what did they do.
Speaker 1: They cleaned all the illegal immigrants off the street before
Speaker 1: Joe Biden arrived because they wanted to set it up
Speaker 1: like a TV set and clear everyone out when he
Speaker 1: got there. This is an amazing thing, Karine John Pierre
Speaker 1: said from the White House podium. She said Biden did
Speaker 1: not meet or speak to, or see a single illegal
Speaker 1: immigrant when he was there. Now, that is friggate heart.
Speaker 1: I have been to the border many, many times. We've
Speaker 1: had five point three million people cross illegally under Joe
Speaker 1: Biden's presidency. For him to go to the border and
Speaker 1: not see a single illegal immigrant, I guarantee you that
Speaker 1: was political staffers working overtime saying make sure you don't
Speaker 1: show some little girl who was sexually assaulted by the traffickers.
Speaker 1: Make sure you don't show some impoverished person who went
Speaker 1: through a horrific journey to get here. Definitely make sure
Speaker 1: you don't show an MS thirteen gang member who just
Speaker 1: came into this country and is now carry out crimes
Speaker 1: in this country. Instead, he went down there for a
Speaker 1: photo op, but then he wasn't done. Then he got
Speaker 1: on a plane and he headed to Mexico, and he
Speaker 1: met with Amlow, the President of Mexico, and he announced
Speaker 1: the Biden border plan. And it is truly stunning. So
Speaker 1: here's what Joe Biden has said, and I want to
Speaker 1: quote him. He has said, quote, we are trying to
Speaker 1: make it easier for people to get here. In other words,
Speaker 1: the five point three million that have crossed illegally, that's
Speaker 1: not a bug, that's a feature. They want more of it.
Speaker 1: He doesn't intend to fix this. He do want to
Speaker 1: fix this. Instead, he wants full on open borders. He's
Speaker 1: not hiding it. And by the way, Amlow, the president
Speaker 1: of Mexico, he gets it. Have a listen to what
Speaker 1: Amlow said with Joe Biden standing next to him about
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Speaker 1: Let's play that video real quick of the president in
Speaker 1: Mexico talking about how proud he is the America is
Speaker 1: given the ultimate thing, the ultimate gift, that open border.
Speaker 1: It'sn't but he meant it, but I didn't. And what's
Speaker 1: your temple, Ao, Neil Mitro de Murdo, L. Sill and
Speaker 1: Ben if your Spanish is not up to snuff. What
Speaker 1: Amlow just said is is that you're the first president
Speaker 1: of the United States in a long time who had
Speaker 1: hasn't built even a single meter a border wall. And
Speaker 1: that he said, we appreciate so explicitly. By the way,
Speaker 1: Amlow is a leftist Marxist president of Mexico who has
Speaker 1: been embracing the cartels, who's been turning a blind eye
Speaker 1: to the cartels murdering police officers, murdering journalist. And he's
Speaker 1: standing there with Biden beaming, praising him because you're the
Speaker 1: first president a long time. By the way, he's including
Speaker 1: Barack Obama in that, he's including George W. Bush, He's
Speaker 1: including Barack Obama, He's including Bill Clinton, He's including of
Speaker 1: course Donald Trump. Joe Biden is the worst of all
Speaker 1: of them on open borders. Amlo is praising him, and
Speaker 1: then the White House rolled out this rather amazing document
Speaker 1: on January tenth. It's called the Declaration of North America DNA.
Speaker 1: So this is their leftist DNA. I don't think that
Speaker 1: that acronym is is accidental. So we are right now
Speaker 1: facing the worst crisis of illegal immigration in the history
Speaker 1: of our country. It has never been this bad. Five
Speaker 1: point three million people across the illegal ender. Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: the Biden White House lays out six principles. You know what.
Speaker 1: Principal Number one is all woke liberal ideology. That's what
Speaker 1: they're gonna do with the entire list. Principle number one diversity,
Speaker 1: equity and inclusion. That's the very first thing. Not border security,
Speaker 1: not saving lives, not preventing women from being raped, not
Speaker 1: preventing children from being assaulted, not stopping fetting off from
Speaker 1: flooding across the border. Diversity, equity, and inclusion. What do
Speaker 1: you think number two is? I'm gonna go with woke
Speaker 1: ideology yet again, like an academic decided to write this
Speaker 1: for the White House at it's some woke school right.
Speaker 1: Climate change and environments, that's number two. That's what he's
Speaker 1: down there topic to Mexico. That made out Gore happy.
Speaker 1: I'm sure number three, surely legal immigration comes up. Number three, Nope, competitiveness,
Speaker 1: We need to outsource more to Mexico. What's number four?
Speaker 1: Number four? All right, finally immigration comes up. It's entitled
Speaker 1: Migration and Development. And what do they say they want
Speaker 1: to do about it? Work together to advance labor mobility
Speaker 1: and North America. And in particular, it says, since June, Mexico,
Speaker 1: the United States and Canada collectively welcomed record numbers of
Speaker 1: migrants and refugees from the Western Hemisphere under new and
Speaker 1: expanded humanitarian programs. They don't want to end it. They're
Speaker 1: not trying to end it. They're not asking for Mexico's
Speaker 1: help and ending it. They want more. Number five on
Speaker 1: this list is health. Number six is regional security. Do
Speaker 1: you know what word does not appear in this entire
Speaker 1: White House list? Cartel. I didn't hear anything about actual
Speaker 1: border security or the cartels, or the drugs or the
Speaker 1: fetanyl for that matter, fentanyl. Look, last year, we had
Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand Americans die of drug overdoses. Most
Speaker 1: of those opioids, many of them fentanyl. It is a
Speaker 1: deadly poison that is murdering Americans. Joe Biden and the
Speaker 1: Democrats don't care. They don't want to stop it. They're
Speaker 1: not purporting to stop it. And this meeting with Amlow, Listen,
Speaker 1: even though Amlow is a leftist, he was afraid of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. He was afraid of Donald Trump. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you an interesting story. So we've talked before about
Speaker 1: how the remaining Mexico Agreement, how effective it was. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you how it came to pass. So it
Speaker 1: came to pass. Donald Trump was president, and he issued
Speaker 1: a threat to Mexico. He said he was going to
Speaker 1: impose a twenty five percent tariff on goods coming in
Speaker 1: from Mexico. Now, I got to say, you and I
Speaker 1: are both Texas, and a twenty five percent tariff on
Speaker 1: goods coming from Mexico would be devastating to Texas farmers,
Speaker 1: to Texas ranchers, to Texas manufacturers and businesses, and so catastrophic.
Speaker 1: I was vocal criticizing, and I said, look, I'm all
Speaker 1: for securing the border and doing everything necessary, but punishing
Speaker 1: the people of Texas and the businesses of Texas and
Speaker 1: jobs in Texas is a mistake. And what I said
Speaker 1: at the time, I said, look, Trump is playing a
Speaker 1: game of chicken where he's driving a truck really fast
Speaker 1: and another guy at a country road. And sometimes you
Speaker 1: win a game of chicken, sometimes the other guy swerves.
Speaker 1: And I said at the time when he issued that demand,
Speaker 1: I said, if Trump wins this game of chicken, if
Speaker 1: Amlo swerbs, then it'll be great and we'll make real
Speaker 1: steps towards solving the problem. But if he doesn't, if
Speaker 1: Amlow crashes his truck into Trumps, the result is gonna
Speaker 1: be a ton of lost jobs and harm in the
Speaker 1: state of Texas. Well. It turned out Trump won the
Speaker 1: game of chicken. Amlow blinked, he gave in, and he
Speaker 1: signed the remaining Mexico Agreement. Now, the night he signed it,
Speaker 1: I was at a retreat with a bunch of other
Speaker 1: Republican senators. I was there with my wife, and I
Speaker 1: was with Roy Blunt and his wife, and I was
Speaker 1: with Corey Gardner and his wife. Roy Blunt was senator
Speaker 1: from Missouri. Corey Gardner was sentator from Colorado. So the
Speaker 1: six of us were sitting down having a glass of
Speaker 1: wine together and Trump calls my cell phone right after
Speaker 1: the news broke and I answer it, and he goes, ted,
Speaker 1: I was right, you were wrong, I said, high mister President,
Speaker 1: and he was exultant. He was on cloud nine. And
Speaker 1: I decided, all right, if he's gonna give me grief
Speaker 1: about it, I'm going to do the natural step, which
Speaker 1: is bring others in other people. So I said, mister President,
Speaker 1: I'm here with Roy and Corey. Why don't I put
Speaker 1: it on speakerphone. And so we put it on speaker phone,
Speaker 1: and Trump was exultant. He was really really happy, and
Speaker 1: he said, you want to hear the details of that
Speaker 1: the deal? We said, sure. And the deal involved, among
Speaker 1: other things, if I remember right, Mexico agreed to put
Speaker 1: six thousand soldiers on their southern border. You know, the
Speaker 1: southern border of Mexico on again, next to Guatemala, is
Speaker 1: much much smaller than our southern border. It's much easier
Speaker 1: to secure the border south of Mexico than it is
Speaker 1: on our southern border. And he agreed to remain in Mexico.
Speaker 1: He agreed to the agreement that people who crossed illegally
Speaker 1: into Mexico would remain in Mexico while their US asylum
Speaker 1: case was proceeding, and he walks through it, and he asked,
Speaker 1: you know, so it turns out all you all you
Speaker 1: guys were wrong about this, and Roy Blunt had had
Speaker 1: the line of the night. He said, mister President, now
Speaker 1: that you got a deal, we were with you the
Speaker 1: entire way, and Trump brilliant. Yeah. Look, Trump holed, laughing.
Speaker 1: It was a good line, but it was am Loo
Speaker 1: was scared of Trump. The amazing thing is he was
Speaker 1: scared enough. Look, he thought Trump was crazy enough to
Speaker 1: put the tariffs on Mexico, which would have hurt the
Speaker 1: United States, but it would have hurt Mexico too, And
Speaker 1: because Trump had a credible threat, I have to say,
Speaker 1: I look, his judgment that Amlo was gonna blank was
Speaker 1: the right judgment, and that agreement was such a massive,
Speaker 1: massive success that it produced the lowest illegal immigration in
Speaker 1: forty five years. It's remarkable, and it's because even though
Speaker 1: this leftist who ran on anti American rhetoric didn't want
Speaker 1: to secure the border, he was scared of the American
Speaker 1: president and so he helped do so, and we got
Speaker 1: enormous results. When Biden came in, Not only is Amlo
Speaker 1: not remotely scared of Biden. Biden comes in there as
Speaker 1: the most beta male, weak American president that Amlo is
Speaker 1: glowing saying, well, you know, it's great that, unlike Obama,
Speaker 1: unlike all the other presidents, you haven't built any border
Speaker 1: wall at all. And what does Biden say, Well, diversity, equity, inclusion,
Speaker 1: climate change, and we want even more open borders. It
Speaker 1: is a travesty and it's even more of a travesty
Speaker 1: because in the face of this crisis, we should have
Speaker 1: a president who actually stands up for America when dealing
Speaker 1: with Mexico. And that's not what I want to ask
Speaker 1: you about. The politics. There's a lot that you can,
Speaker 1: I think, read into the fact that he said this
Speaker 1: publicly referring to the president in Mexico about the American president.
Speaker 1: Even if, and this is just politics, most of American
Speaker 1: presidents would not want to be praised publicly buy another
Speaker 1: country for having an open border. It's just you would
Speaker 1: assume bad optics bad for your country, even if that
Speaker 1: is your plan. And I think it's also just a
Speaker 1: point where this present felt so comfortable because Biden's so
Speaker 1: weak that even Biden wouldn't look at him and say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: don't say that in public. You're just undermining what I'm
Speaker 1: helping you with here. You're undermining the border, the open
Speaker 1: border policy that I have here. Don't say it out
Speaker 1: loud in front of the media, don't praise me for it.
Speaker 1: Just enjoy it and be quiet about it. And yet
Speaker 1: it's like Joe Biden is so incompetent that he didn't
Speaker 1: even understand how strong this made Mexico look while mocking
Speaker 1: the lack of American security. Well, look at the problem.
Speaker 1: And people ask me all the time, why would the
Speaker 1: Biden administration do this? Why would they have open borders?
Speaker 1: And the challenge with today's Democrat party in Washington, they've
Speaker 1: given their agenda on every issue over to the radicals.
Speaker 1: So on immigration, they've given it over to the open
Speaker 1: border radicals. On gun control, they've given it over to
Speaker 1: the gun control radicals. On crime and law enforcement, they've
Speaker 1: given it over to the abolish the police radicals. On
Speaker 1: issues of sexuality, they've given it over to the transgender
Speaker 1: radicals who want boys competing against girls in sports and
Speaker 1: are fighting for the chemical castration of little boys and
Speaker 1: sterilization of little girls in pursuit of woke ideology. Look,
Speaker 1: all of those are fringe positions. Their fringe positions. Naturally,
Speaker 1: every one of those seventy eighty percent of Americans opposed.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean they're not you know, you think
Speaker 1: back to like the Bill Clinton presidency, and I was
Speaker 1: not a fan of Bill Clinton. Yeah, but Bill Clinton
Speaker 1: consciously tried to triangulate, tried to go to the middle,
Speaker 1: and it was successful. It got him elected twice, even
Speaker 1: despite his personal scandals. Going to the middle was a
Speaker 1: successful strategy for the Democrats. What Biden has employed is
Speaker 1: very different, which is today's Democrat Party is essentially an
Speaker 1: assembly of radical groups, and each radical groups gets their
Speaker 1: issue area, and they're not calculating. The Democrats are not
Speaker 1: hiding that they are open borders. They're not pretending they're
Speaker 1: going to solve this situation. And part of the reason
Speaker 1: is the corporate media so utterly corrupt that they're counting
Speaker 1: on them not to tell the stories, not to tell
Speaker 1: the truth. There's a reason Biden didn't see a single
Speaker 1: illegal immigrant, because when you see a little boy or
Speaker 1: little girl who's been sexually assaulted and abused, you can't
Speaker 1: just spit it off as look how compassionate I am.
Speaker 1: So instead they try to hide it and count on
Speaker 1: the media that meted to hide it with them. And
Speaker 1: that's the question I was going to ask you as
Speaker 1: we wrap this part up, is there's one big story
Speaker 1: here that was so clearly underreported and it was an
Speaker 1: emission of guilt I think by this administration. There were
Speaker 1: a lot of videos that came out in al Paso
Speaker 1: of what the Biden administration was doing Senator to get
Speaker 1: ready for his visit, and they showed the picture the
Speaker 1: day before and the day he arrived. They came in
Speaker 1: and you can't say this administration doesn't know what's going on,
Speaker 1: because not only do they know what's going on, they
Speaker 1: went into al Paso and they literally, in the most
Speaker 1: inhumane way, I would argue possible, just cleaned out every
Speaker 1: illegal immigrant, every illegal immigrant that was homeless, all of
Speaker 1: the stuff that could look bad for the TV cameras
Speaker 1: of the route that the president was going to take.
Speaker 1: So they know the chaos was there, They know how
Speaker 1: many illegals are sleeping on the street, They know how
Speaker 1: dirty the streets had become, and how they've lost control
Speaker 1: in El Paso because of the massive number illegal immigrants
Speaker 1: come across the border. But they made sure for a
Speaker 1: twenty four hour period that they just cleaned it out.
Speaker 1: They arrested people. This was caught on video. They put
Speaker 1: them in the patty wagons. They did exactly what they
Speaker 1: should be doing to secure the border, just for a
Speaker 1: twenty before our period. So we show the cameras where
Speaker 1: the president wouldn't see it. And for the video version
Speaker 1: of this pod, we'll put up right now the before
Speaker 1: and after picture, so if you're watching the video on YouTube,
Speaker 1: you can see it. You can see the before and
Speaker 1: after they cleaned it up. By the way, if you're
Speaker 1: watching the video on YouTube, that's great, make sure you
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Speaker 1: the audio version, because we put out two a week
Speaker 1: in just audio, and then we put out one a
Speaker 1: week in both audio and video, so make sure you're
Speaker 1: subscribed to both. But if you're watching the video, you
Speaker 1: can see the before and after, and in the before
Speaker 1: and after, look what becomes clear. This is a Hollywood movie.
Speaker 1: This is a TV production. The people in charge of
Speaker 1: it or Hollywood producers. And if we actually had a
Speaker 1: functioning press corps, you couldn't do this. If you had
Speaker 1: who were actual journalists who were not pr flax for
Speaker 1: the White House, they would cover it, but they don't
Speaker 1: cover it because they support the agenda of open borders.
Speaker 1: They support the agenda of this White House, and they
Speaker 1: no longer view their job as actually reporting on the
Speaker 1: children being murdered. Don't matter to these journalists, and they
Speaker 1: don't matter to the Democrats, and the Democrats know the
Speaker 1: journalists won't report on it. And it's why you have
Speaker 1: Biden not only not trying to fix this crisis, but
Speaker 1: promising to continue this crisis. He is promising next year,
Speaker 1: more people will cross illegally, more children will be assaulted,
Speaker 1: more women will be raped, more elderly people will be
Speaker 1: abandoned to die in the desert, More drugs will come in,
Speaker 1: more fetanal, more gang crimes, more teenagers trapped working for
Speaker 1: the cartels. And by the way, the cartels, the word
Speaker 1: that doesn't appear in this White House document, have made
Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars because of Joe Biden. Joe
Speaker 1: Biden becoming president was hands down the single best thing
Speaker 1: that has ever happened for the human traffickers and drug
Speaker 1: traffickers in Mexico and across the world. Record profits. It was.
Speaker 1: I saw a report the other day that said, they
Speaker 1: believe now the amount of money being made off fetnol
Speaker 1: will far outpace the cocaine and marijuana drugs that they
Speaker 1: were running for decades into this country. They said, it's
Speaker 1: the most profitable period, they believe for the cartels in
Speaker 1: the history in Mexico, and the President is allowing it
Speaker 1: to happen. Well, and Ben, one thing about the cartels,
Speaker 1: they make about the same amount of money from human
Speaker 1: trafficking and from drug trafficking. Both of those are approximately
Speaker 1: fifty percent of their revenue, which tells you what a
Speaker 1: big business it is treating human beings as cattle. This
Speaker 1: is modern day slavery. Joe Biden is responsible for modern
Speaker 1: day slavery, and it is every bit as evil and
Speaker 1: grotesque and cruel and inhumane as it was in the
Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds and eighteen hundreds. Under Joe Biden, he's responsible
Speaker 1: for funding the slave traders and for their murder and
Speaker 1: torture and suffering that is all deliberately caused by this
Speaker 1: White House. If you hear any Democrats, by the way,
Speaker 1: say that there's a secure border, they're lying to you,
Speaker 1: because we know for a fact that last year Senator
Speaker 1: and as a center from Texas. You see this, more
Speaker 1: than anybody. More people cross the border into Texas illegally
Speaker 1: last year than any other year on record that we've
Speaker 1: had since the government has been keeping these stats. And
Speaker 1: that's just the people that we caught. We don't know
Speaker 1: how many people got across the border that we didn't catch,
Speaker 1: which they clearly believe is another record year that we've
Speaker 1: never seen before. Now, that's exactly right, and it is.
Speaker 1: It is deliberate, it's not an accident, and they don't
Speaker 1: intend to stop. They intend to continue making the problem
Speaker 1: worse and worse and worse and turning a blind eye
Speaker 1: to the human suffering that results. I want to switch
Speaker 1: gears to what we're seeing with the playbook from Democrats
Speaker 1: on issues that they go back to Senator when they lose.
Speaker 1: We're seeing and we're going to do another show on this,
Speaker 1: but I'm just going to use this example. San Francisco
Speaker 1: is now saying they want to pay reparations to people
Speaker 1: of five million dollars and give them two hundred years
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, one hundred and fifty years of salary. You
Speaker 1: see Sheila Jackson Lee that's talking about reparations and saying
Speaker 1: that she wants to in prison people that say anything
Speaker 1: that's negative towards a minority, and we'll deal with that
Speaker 1: another day. They're going back to their playbook, which is
Speaker 1: we go after guns, we try to start a race
Speaker 1: war and divide the country to solidify our base. And
Speaker 1: now we are seeing the President and Democrats calling for
Speaker 1: banning of AR fifteens again. The President talk about this
Speaker 1: on Martin Luther King Day in a very blunt way.
Speaker 1: And then we saw the governor in Illinois come out
Speaker 1: banning all semi automatic weapons. Uh, that's part two of this.
Speaker 1: So they're actually implementing. They're not just talking about. They're
Speaker 1: actually doing this state by state where they can. And
Speaker 1: then you have people and it may have been the
Speaker 1: most amazing clip. It was Haraldo on Fox where he
Speaker 1: said this about a R fifteens, It makes makes macho
Speaker 1: the people who possess it, Well, look at me. I'm
Speaker 1: a big deal. And it's it's not a right, it's rightful.
Speaker 1: It is it is it is it is a people. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's not what it is. I mean, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: say you want to ban something, at least google it
Speaker 1: and find out what the hell it means right. And
Speaker 1: this is the reason why I will never trust Liberals
Speaker 1: Center with my guns, because they don't even know what
Speaker 1: they're talking about when it comes to the name of
Speaker 1: a gun. Yeah. Look, that embodies the ignorance and apathy
Speaker 1: and ideology of the left wing media. So Haraldo has
Speaker 1: no idea what an AR fifteen is. All right, that's fine,
Speaker 1: there's some people that don't. But Haraldo's job is to
Speaker 1: go on TV and talk about issues like gun control.
Speaker 1: And Haraldo's decided to be a left winger and advocate
Speaker 1: gun control, so he's advocating banning AR fifteens. Here's the problem.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know what an AR fifteen is. Now Guttfeld
Speaker 1: comes back with, you know, what does the AR stand for?
Speaker 1: And Haraldo responds, automatic rifle. Now, you and I both
Speaker 1: know that is wrong. That is not what the R
Speaker 1: stands for. The the AR stands for Arma Light rifle.
Speaker 1: Arma Light was the company in the nineteen fifties that
Speaker 1: developed it. And an AR fifteen is a semi automatic rifle.
Speaker 1: It's not automatic. It's semi automatic. The difference and look,
Speaker 1: list listeners of this pod are educated and savvy, and
Speaker 1: so y'all know the difference. But Haraldo has no idea
Speaker 1: an automatic rifle. A machine gun is a weapon that
Speaker 1: when you hold the trigger down, multiple bullets come out.
Speaker 1: You think, Rambo, going, that's a machine gun. A semi
Speaker 1: automatic weapon is a weapon when you pull the trigger
Speaker 1: once one bullet comes out, and then you pull the
Speaker 1: trigger a second time and a second bullet comes out.
Speaker 1: It's a fundamental difference machine guns. Automatic rifles have been
Speaker 1: functionally illegal in the United States for over eighty years,
Speaker 1: other than in very limited circumstances with very strict licenses.
Speaker 1: As a practical matter, an ordinary citizen cannot own a
Speaker 1: machine gun. So Haraldo there when he says, oh R
Speaker 1: stands for automatic rifle, it's not just a gotcha question.
Speaker 1: He's fundamentally ignorant about what the thing is that he
Speaker 1: wants to ban. And he says, actually, earlier in that
Speaker 1: clip he calls it a machine gun. He thinks it
Speaker 1: is a machine gun, and he doesn't really care it is.
Speaker 1: It is an example when when why can the Democrats
Speaker 1: be so left wing because the media is that bad.
Speaker 1: They don't know what an AR fifteen is, They don't
Speaker 1: care all good, they don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: All with weapons. And another example of this sentators this
Speaker 1: last week. There was a man who had created apparently
Speaker 1: one gun that was a single shot twenty two little
Speaker 1: mini gun they called it, with a spring that he
Speaker 1: had to pull back and its shot. And he found
Speaker 1: out through someone that was looking at the bill in
Speaker 1: Illinois where they're banning all of these guns, that his
Speaker 1: prototype that never went into production, that was one little bullet,
Speaker 1: a twenty two who was springloaded, that never went into production.
Speaker 1: Somehow his gun got on the list of the evil, scary,
Speaker 1: terrible guns that should be banned in America, they're saying,
Speaker 1: at least in Illinois. And they found this guy and
Speaker 1: they're like, you never even produced this gun. This is
Speaker 1: not something you can even buy on the market. It
Speaker 1: doesn't really exist. How did you end up on this list?
Speaker 1: And he says, I genuinely have no idea. This is
Speaker 1: a gun that I got a patent on, this is
Speaker 1: a gun that I did once. And yet Democrats and
Speaker 1: again it shows the example that you're mentioning. They don't
Speaker 1: even know what they're banning. And the governor in Illinois
Speaker 1: has come out and this is serious, and I would
Speaker 1: say to conservatives, listen, the governor in Illinois center has
Speaker 1: passed a significant law. It's gonna be challenges, but it
Speaker 1: bans all semi automatic guns and the majority of firearms
Speaker 1: bought in America day, the majority of guns they're used
Speaker 1: to protect people's lives. The number one gun that people
Speaker 1: have to protect themselves a personal carry are semi automatic weapons.
Speaker 1: They've now banned them all, which is really going back
Speaker 1: to gun confiscation. Just take a look at this, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of grandstanding, frankly, and I
Speaker 1: know there's some of them that are opposed to the law,
Speaker 1: but the fact is they've signed an oath of office
Speaker 1: to uphold and enforce the laws of the state of Illinois,
Speaker 1: and I expect them to do so. What penalty would
Speaker 1: state residents pay if they don't abide by that and
Speaker 1: within the next year come forward and register their weapons
Speaker 1: in this category. Well, it begins with a fine if
Speaker 1: they don't, you know, if they're caught under this law,
Speaker 1: begins with a fine. But a second instance, it is
Speaker 1: a class four felony. I mean, this is gun confiscation
Speaker 1: and the first part there, and this is I think
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I'm going to give you the numbers, sheriffs
Speaker 1: and eighty Illinois County Center are making clear they will
Speaker 1: quote not enforce the assault weapons ban that the Democratic
Speaker 1: governor signed into law on Tuesday, saying they will not
Speaker 1: do this because they believe it's unconstitutional, which I think
Speaker 1: is amazing law enforcement standing up. But this is about
Speaker 1: taking away your guns and a gun registry saying if
Speaker 1: you don't register them, then you'll be a felon because
Speaker 1: you didn't register and by default, which when you're a
Speaker 1: felon at that point, you're not allowed to own any firearms. Well,
Speaker 1: look that clip, I think really embodies just how extreme
Speaker 1: today's Democrat Party is on the question of guns and
Speaker 1: how hypocritical it is. Number One, Pritzker is a billionaire.
Speaker 1: He lives with vast wealth. He is surrounded as governor,
Speaker 1: he's surrounded by an armed police detail. Previously he was surrounded,
Speaker 1: no doubt. I don't know this for sure, but I
Speaker 1: would wager a whole lot of money that he had
Speaker 1: armed security with him just as a really rich guy.
Speaker 1: He lives in a really rich neighborhood with armed security
Speaker 1: and has kept very very safe. What does he want
Speaker 1: to do? He wants to disarm the ordinary citizens of Illinois.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Illinois Chicago already has some of
Speaker 1: the strictest gun control laws in the country, and it,
Speaker 1: year after year after year, has among the highest crime
Speaker 1: rates and murder rates. Why not because they don't have
Speaker 1: tough enough gun control. In fact, in Chicago, the gun
Speaker 1: control laws have succeeded in disarming the law abiding citizens
Speaker 1: because by definition, if you're law abiding, you abide the law.
Speaker 1: But the criminals are not law abiding. The gang bangers
Speaker 1: are not law abiding, and they have all the guns
Speaker 1: they need, and so they're shooting each other, and they're
Speaker 1: shooting innocent citizens. They're shooting Many of the people murdered
Speaker 1: in Chicago under these gun control laws, many of them
Speaker 1: are African American, many of them are Hispanic, the vast
Speaker 1: majority of them are low income. And the Democrats don't care.
Speaker 1: Those black lives don't matter to them. The kids that
Speaker 1: are shot and drive by shootings, those don't matter. And
Speaker 1: their solution is to say you can't defend your home.
Speaker 1: Every year, this is according to the Obama White House
Speaker 1: Fiers arms are used defensively to stop a crime between
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand and a million times each year. According
Speaker 1: to the Democrats, they take the guns away from all
Speaker 1: of them and just let the criminals be armed. And
Speaker 1: you see the suffering, the chaos, the tragedy that plays
Speaker 1: out in Chicago every day and every week and every
Speaker 1: month and every year because of those misguided policies. I'll
Speaker 1: also note, you know, Pritzker says, well the sheriff. The
Speaker 1: sheriffs took an oath. Yes they did, but they didn't
Speaker 1: take an oath to obey the Democratic kingpin boss hog,
Speaker 1: who sits there and decrees you shall obey my orders.
Speaker 1: They took an oath to defend and protect the Constitution.
Speaker 1: And I believe these Illinois laws are going to be
Speaker 1: struck down. The courts are not going to let him stand.
Speaker 1: But the Democrats don't care. And by the way, one
Speaker 1: of the strategies of gun confiscation law abiding people, as
Speaker 1: I said, abide by the law. They want to confiscate
Speaker 1: as many firearms as they can. By the way, they
Speaker 1: also want to turn into felons as many gun owners
Speaker 1: as they can, because that's one way of confiscating them
Speaker 1: and taking away their rights. You know, when the courts
Speaker 1: began striking down Joe Biden's illegal COVID vaccine mandates. When
Speaker 1: he was trying to force employers large employers to fire
Speaker 1: their employees who didn't get a COVID vaccine. The court
Speaker 1: struck it down, and the White House said, well, you
Speaker 1: should comply with it anyway, even though it's been enjoined,
Speaker 1: even though it's not enforce you should comply anyway. That's
Speaker 1: their view on guns. Anyway, we will use power. You
Speaker 1: must obey and listen. The Democrat view of politics is
Speaker 1: they use government power to punish their enemies and reward
Speaker 1: their friends. So they want to go after their enemies.
Speaker 1: If you believe in free speech, if you believe in
Speaker 1: religious liberty, if you believe in the Second Amendment, if
Speaker 1: you believe in free enterprise, they consider you an enemy.
Speaker 1: They want to punish you. They want to make your
Speaker 1: life difficult. They want to crush you into submission. On
Speaker 1: the other hand, if you're a Democrat oboist, if you
Speaker 1: make money on all of these different scams dealing with
Speaker 1: the federal government, they want to make you rich. They
Speaker 1: want to shovel cash into your pocket. And that fundamentally
Speaker 1: is the corruption that's at the heart of today's Democrat party.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a practical question from a
Speaker 1: legislative standpoint center because there are a lot of second
Speaker 1: amend advocates gun owners that are concerned about two aspects
Speaker 1: of this. And yes, we have the court system that
Speaker 1: I believe is going to strike this down in Illinois,
Speaker 1: but Democrats clearly are trying to figure around workarounds to
Speaker 1: take away our rights. There are two things that concern
Speaker 1: many gun owners, and I know you've heard about this
Speaker 1: a lot. One is this gun registry aspect of that,
Speaker 1: and that's what they're obviously trying to do in Illinois.
Speaker 1: The second is government monitoring. We talked about this, I
Speaker 1: think on this podcast couple months ago when banks we're
Speaker 1: recording transactions and the White House is wanting this for
Speaker 1: gun stores and places to kind of monit tour and
Speaker 1: then see if you were buying what they believed was
Speaker 1: too much AMMO or too many guns or too many transactions. Look,
Speaker 1: I own a gun store and we've had banks and
Speaker 1: credit card processing companies that have actually just said we're
Speaker 1: not working with you, even though you're selling the most
Speaker 1: regulated industry by the government. We have multiple layers of
Speaker 1: regulations on this industry. And they've also said, you know,
Speaker 1: not only are we're not going to do it, we're
Speaker 1: going to try to basically use that to put you
Speaker 1: out of business. And people are terrified of the government
Speaker 1: monitoring their transactions. So number one, is there anything that
Speaker 1: you guys can do to make that illegal? And second
Speaker 1: of all, is there any type of legislation that could
Speaker 1: come about that says you cannot have gun registries in
Speaker 1: this country? So yes, there is. And in the Senate,
Speaker 1: I've been leading the fight against a gun registry and
Speaker 1: in defense of the Second Amendment for the entire time
Speaker 1: i've been there. And listen, the Second Amendment I believe
Speaker 1: passionately in the Constitution. As you know that my second
Speaker 1: book that I wrote was One Vote Away, How a
Speaker 1: single Supreme Court seat can Change History. And there's an
Speaker 1: entire chapter in One Vote Away that talks about the
Speaker 1: Heller case where the Supreme Court upheld and first clarified
Speaker 1: the individual right to keep in a bare arms in
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. And I led the states. I was
Speaker 1: Solicitor General of Texas, and I led the states in
Speaker 1: defense of the Second Amendment in Heller, which is why
Speaker 1: the NRA named me as a champion defending the Second Amendment.
Speaker 1: Because that victory. That victory and the subsequent case of
Speaker 1: McDonald is a big part of why this Illinois law
Speaker 1: is likely to be struck down protecting those rights. When
Speaker 1: I first got to the Senate, one of the very
Speaker 1: first things that happened, I was elected in twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: I arrived in twenty thirteen. Tragically, we saw the shooting
Speaker 1: in Newtown, Connecticut, where that monster, that animal murdered little children.
Speaker 1: You and I are both parents, and I think there
Speaker 1: is nothing more evil on planet Earth than a monster
Speaker 1: who hurts little kids. And the Democrats were exultant. Obama
Speaker 1: just been reelected. They were convinced they were going to
Speaker 1: pass gun control. And I was a brand new baby
Speaker 1: freshman senator. I was still in my basement office. I
Speaker 1: didn't know where the men's room was, but I said,
Speaker 1: I'll be damned if I let this Congress pass anything
Speaker 1: that takes away the Second Amendment rights of Texans and Americans.
Speaker 1: And I led the fight just fresh into the Senate,
Speaker 1: and we defeated those bills. On the floor of the Senate.
Speaker 1: I authored the lead alternative to those bills. That was
Speaker 1: a law enforcement alternative that focused on criminals and fugitives
Speaker 1: and those with serious mental illness, and putting them in jail,
Speaker 1: and taking their firearms away, and securing schools, all of those.
Speaker 1: There's a lot we can do to make people safer.
Speaker 1: The Democrats don't want that. They want to disarm you,
Speaker 1: the law abiding citizen. And one of the most central
Speaker 1: elements you rightly focused on is a gun registry. And listen,
Speaker 1: for people who don't follow these issues, a registry can
Speaker 1: sound innocuous. One of the arguments they like to give is, look,
Speaker 1: you need a license to drive a car, You ought
Speaker 1: to have a license to own a firearm. And just
Speaker 1: you know, you got to register a car, you should
Speaker 1: register a firearm. Well, the difference is there are not
Speaker 1: yet a group of political ideologs and zealots that want
Speaker 1: to confiscate our automobiles. By the way, that may be coming.
Speaker 1: They want to confiscate our gas stoves. Automobile confiscation may
Speaker 1: be coming, but we're not there yet. But with firearms.
Speaker 1: Pritzker wants to take him, Joe Biden wants to take him,
Speaker 1: Diane Feinstein wants to take him. Gavin Newsom wants to
Speaker 1: take him. They want to come in and forcibly remove
Speaker 1: your firearms. And so the entire purpose of a registry
Speaker 1: is create a list. Okay, Ben Ferguson had the following firearms. Okay,
Speaker 1: the local law enforcement shows up and says, mister Ferguson,
Speaker 1: hand over every gun on this list, and if you
Speaker 1: don't hand it up, we're putting you in handcuffs and
Speaker 1: taking you away. That's why they want a registry. And
Speaker 1: so there are already elements of current federal law that prohibit,
Speaker 1: for example, the ATF When you go and buy a
Speaker 1: gun at a firearms dealer, you own a gun store,
Speaker 1: so you're a firearms dealer. You got to fill out
Speaker 1: a background check, and as you know, federal law requires
Speaker 1: you run that background check. But after it comes back clean,
Speaker 1: you're required to destroy those records. And the reason federal
Speaker 1: law requires that is because they don't want a registry
Speaker 1: that becomes a list for the gun grabbers to disarm America.
Speaker 1: That is their objective and it is fortunately it's unconstitutional.
Speaker 1: But as the Democrat Party's gotten more and more extreme,
Speaker 1: they're not even bothering to hide their objective that they
Speaker 1: want to disarm you and mind you. At the same
Speaker 1: time they want to let out of jail, the violent
Speaker 1: criminals who are committing these acts. I mean, think of
Speaker 1: the combination prevent your ability to defend your home and
Speaker 1: your kids. But at the same time, these are the
Speaker 1: people that want to abolish the police and that are
Speaker 1: supporting George Soros DA's that let violent criminals out of
Speaker 1: prison who turn around and commit more crimes. You and
Speaker 1: I live in Houston, Texas. In Houston, we've got cashless
Speaker 1: bail policies that are releasing murderers who turn around and
Speaker 1: murder more people. I don't understand. I really do struggle
Speaker 1: with the reason and logic that says, disarm someone who's
Speaker 1: never committed a crime, who wants a firearm to protect
Speaker 1: their children, but at the same time release someone who's
Speaker 1: already murdered somebody and is likely to murder somebody else.
Speaker 1: That's not logic, that's emotion, that's rage. That's ideology disconnected
Speaker 1: from real life. And it is a tiny sliver of America.
Speaker 1: But what's bizarre is the Democrat Party has handed their
Speaker 1: policy on these issues over to that tiny sliver of
Speaker 1: America and embraced every bit of it. I say to
Speaker 1: you all the time, if you think these types of
Speaker 1: things cannot happen to America, or you think that it
Speaker 1: will never happen. Call anybody you know in Canada right now,
Speaker 1: ask them what rights they have with guns, because Trudeau
Speaker 1: just took them all away because of truck drivers that
Speaker 1: stood up to the vaccine mandate. It scared the elitist
Speaker 1: enough in Canada, those truck drivers banning together. They then said,
Speaker 1: here's our response to this, let's get rid of the guns.
Speaker 1: And they did it successfully there, and that is a
Speaker 1: reminder of how quickly it can happen if you're not
Speaker 1: paying attention. Center. I want to end on a positive note,
Speaker 1: and I think we should do this more often when
Speaker 1: we have victories and the conservative movement. You and I
Speaker 1: just had dinner recently in DC with some of those
Speaker 1: that were fighting for a lot of the deals that
Speaker 1: were done to basically have strong stunt conservatives sit on
Speaker 1: certain committees. Your former chief of staff, Congressen from Texas,
Speaker 1: Chip Roy, was instrumental in working this deal. We now
Speaker 1: are seeing the fruits of that fight over the speakership
Speaker 1: with Kevin McCarthy, and the payoff is massive. Tell people
Speaker 1: about how good this is. Well, we're starting to get
Speaker 1: the announcement of who is on various committees. And one
Speaker 1: of the things we talked about at great length when
Speaker 1: the media was freaking out, when Democrats were freaking out,
Speaker 1: and even some Republicans, particularly those kind of at home
Speaker 1: that weren't following it closely, we're freaking out that the
Speaker 1: speaker fight was a disaster. It was a disgrace, that
Speaker 1: it was a catastrophe. Look, it was the democratic process.
Speaker 1: We spent four days with the House of Representatives debating
Speaker 1: who EICH leaders should be and debating, more importantly, how
Speaker 1: it should lead. And the consequence, those that stood up
Speaker 1: and led that fight extracted major concessions, and those concessions
Speaker 1: are going to change how the House majority is able
Speaker 1: to govern and able to fight bad policies from Biden
Speaker 1: the Democrats over the next two years. And it was
Speaker 1: a massive victory if you care about having Republicans actually
Speaker 1: stand up and fight for what they say they believe,
Speaker 1: that fight over the speakership was massively important. Now, in
Speaker 1: the middle of the fight, one of the things that
Speaker 1: shifted the battle. You know, early on there were a
Speaker 1: handful of rebels and it wasn't clear how many we're
Speaker 1: going to vote against Kevin McCarthy as speaker, and they
Speaker 1: had a meeting of the House Republican Conference and one
Speaker 1: of McCarthy's lieutenants stood up and threatened the rebels, if
Speaker 1: you dare vote against him, you'll be stripped of your committees. Now,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of high handed, haughty authoritarianism that you
Speaker 1: expect of Nancy Pelosi, but it's not what you should
Speaker 1: expect of Republican leadership. And I'll tell you that pissed
Speaker 1: a lot of members off, and I think it played
Speaker 1: a big part. We could easily have seen on the
Speaker 1: first vote maybe ten or twelve no votes. Instead we
Speaker 1: saw nineteen on the first vote, and I think that
Speaker 1: threat may well have doubled or nearly doubled the number
Speaker 1: of no votes. Well, turned out that threat wasn't carried through.
Speaker 1: And we're starting to get who's going to be on
Speaker 1: the various committees, and one in particular that is quite
Speaker 1: notable is the House Oversight Committee, and the members of
Speaker 1: that committee will be Kelly Armstrong from North Dakota, Lauren
Speaker 1: Bobert from Colorado, Tim Burkett from Tennessee, Eric Burlison from Missouri,
Speaker 1: Byron Donalds from Florida, Chuck Edwards from North Carolina, Russell
Speaker 1: Fry from South Carolina, Marjorie Taylor Green from Georgia, Paul
Speaker 1: Gossar from Arizona, Nick Langworthy from New York, Jacolt Turner
Speaker 1: from Kansas, Gary Palmer from Alabama on a Paulina Luna
Speaker 1: from Florida, Scott Perry from Pennsylvania, Lisa McLain from Michigan,
Speaker 1: Pete Sessions from Texas, and William Tibbins from South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Now what's striking is that a whole bunch of those
Speaker 1: are rock rib conservatives who were among the rebels, who
Speaker 1: were among the people that were told you will be
Speaker 1: in Siberia, you will get no committees. And they've been
Speaker 1: put now on the Oversight Committee with the ability to
Speaker 1: go after the abuse of power from Joe Biden in
Speaker 1: this administration. That's what we need as principled fighters. I
Speaker 1: think this is a great, great development. I think we
Speaker 1: will see more. We will see strong conservatives in significantly
Speaker 1: greater positions, able to leverage their position to fight conservative
Speaker 1: battles and hopefully win conservative victories for the American people.
Speaker 1: And I think standing and fighting for issues and principles
Speaker 1: that matter is also how we win in twenty four
Speaker 1: It's how we win. It's how we win the Senate back,
Speaker 1: It's how we hold this House and grow our House majority.
Speaker 1: It's how we win the White House back. And so
Speaker 1: this is a good illustration, you know, when people said, gosh,
Speaker 1: why have this fight? And look, when you and I
Speaker 1: were having dinner in DC, I pulled out my phone
Speaker 1: and I read to you texts from Republican donors, some
Speaker 1: of whom are friends of mine, who were who were
Speaker 1: I rate, why is this fight happening? And listen, I
Speaker 1: understand if you're a business guy and you're at home
Speaker 1: and you turn on the news and they just say
Speaker 1: chaos and chaos and madness with the House Republicans, you're
Speaker 1: kind of annoyed and you're kind of embarrassed if you
Speaker 1: don't understand why that fight is happening. And I think
Speaker 1: we're seeing the very real and tangible results of standing
Speaker 1: and fighting. If you want conservative leadership, you've got to
Speaker 1: stand up and have a conservative conference that demands it.
Speaker 1: And this is a big step forward. Look, I just
Speaker 1: had to say, sitting at the dinner that night, and
Speaker 1: this was me looking from the outside. It was fun
Speaker 1: to see you, and I think how proud you were
Speaker 1: of someone that you know well, Chip Roy, and the
Speaker 1: way that he was able to orchestrate that deal and
Speaker 1: communicate with the Speaker and to make sure that these
Speaker 1: principles had another day to fight and live and have
Speaker 1: people on these committees. It was just cool to see,
Speaker 1: as I put it, the good guys win here. And
Speaker 1: when we have these moments, we should celebrate them and
Speaker 1: remind people that this is why we fight so hard.
Speaker 1: This is why you fight so hard. This is why
Speaker 1: you do the bus tour in a year when you're
Speaker 1: not up for reelection and you try to get principal
Speaker 1: conservatives into Congress. And these are those moments that we
Speaker 1: should enjoy and take a moment and say it was
Speaker 1: worth it, and to the donors, it's worth it, and
Speaker 1: to finding tough, strong principal conservative and running them and
Speaker 1: backing them, it's worth it and it paid off big
Speaker 1: And I just think it's a big moment that we
Speaker 1: should all enjoy fully agree center. I appreciate it as always.
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