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Speaker 1: Hug Watch is on for one of the most dominant

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Speaker 1: players in our sport. This is video from yesterday's after

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Speaker 1: noon outing for Derek Spougel. Dominant successful gets removed teams

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Speaker 1: up seven zip. They lost. They were up seven zip

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Speaker 1: in the sevenths. By the way, it was a tie

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Speaker 1: game by the eighth, but the ovation was awesome here aj.

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Speaker 1: It was also a day when he had his one

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Speaker 1: one thousand strikeout. That was when we were on and

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Speaker 1: then after we departed from our show at our usual time,

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Speaker 1: Tigers were the game. We've basically found out since like,

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Speaker 1: he's a lot to be traded, So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: going on in Detroit right now. That's why I'm wearing

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Speaker 1: Tiger territory shirt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean he also he also gave up three.

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Speaker 2: I mean the bullpen gave up three, so he you know,

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Speaker 2: it was a little bit on tarike. He pitched good,

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Speaker 2: but not great, but he you know, the bullpen came

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Speaker 2: in and put gas on the flame. But he did

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Speaker 2: pitch really well the first six innings. But you're you're up,

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Speaker 2: you know, like that in a big league game, you

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Speaker 2: should win that game, and they did not, And that

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Speaker 2: just sums up why they're going to trade them.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. That was a big emotional swing Crats and actually

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Speaker 1: for the Orioles, they're like desperately trying to show their

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Speaker 1: front office that they still belong. So it was a

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Speaker 1: huge comeback win for them.

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Speaker 3: I think they've been playing a little bit better recently.

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Speaker 3: They're scoring a lot of runs. You know, probably a

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Speaker 3: little too late, too little too late, but yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: as much as you want Terry Scooble to get traded

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Speaker 3: or you don't want them to get traded, this game

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Speaker 3: swung it in whichever direction it was going to go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it was.

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Speaker 4: It was an awesome one and it was awesome though.

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Speaker 4: The ovation was really good. He got a thousand strikeout.

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Speaker 2: They had the big sign in center field showing how

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Speaker 2: many strikeouts he had. But the fans are pretty awesome.

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Speaker 2: The fans probably aren't going to be very happy today

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Speaker 2: when they wake up and.

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Speaker 4: They realize it more than likely Terror Scoobel is going

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Speaker 4: to be a Milwaukee brewery.

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Speaker 3: Let let them in. He came out and had a

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Speaker 3: meeting with him and he's like, right, you can get

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Speaker 3: one more hitter, And guy got a base hit up

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Speaker 3: the middle and then they took him out.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I don't like is like, oh well,

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Speaker 1: we're still gonna try. We'll get to it. I could

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Speaker 1: just mention it real quick right now. They're gonna call

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Speaker 1: it Max Clark this weekend. Great. I mean, I'm all

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Speaker 1: for calling up a guy if you feel like he's ready.

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Speaker 1: The timing is definitely interesting. They claim that's not what

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Speaker 1: it is. Okay, Uh, either way, that's fine. Here's my question.

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Speaker 1: If you're trading school, you should trade Casey Mice too. Right,

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Speaker 1: he's got a really nice year, Like, don't act like,

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Speaker 1: oh well, this is just because we have to get

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Speaker 1: something for Schooble, but we still think we can win

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Speaker 1: a World Series this year, Like trade your assets at

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Speaker 1: the deadline your short term has I.

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Speaker 3: Think he's sneaky underrated because he's always overshadowed by schoobl.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You just the problem with Casey.

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Speaker 2: He's been hurt a lot, and he's basically he's been

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Speaker 2: I think that's the one thing you worry about with

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Speaker 2: Casey Miies if you're another team. Now, do I think

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Speaker 2: he can help a team one a million percent? He

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Speaker 2: he's doing all right, he's doing okay, but I think

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Speaker 4: So they want to take advantage of that. And that's

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Speaker 4: just the way to make people say, oh, look the

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Speaker 4: Tigers are going to trade Google. But look what they

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Speaker 4: have coming in the future. Guys. They have Max Clark.

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Speaker 3: And Casey mice I mean, do you want Clay Holmes

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Speaker 3: just coming off an injury or Casey mice littered with injuries?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, agreed. I'm not I'm not saying that you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Casey mies Is. I don't mean this

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Speaker 4: Maybe he's not the right way to put it, but none.

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Speaker 3: But I think he fits. But I think he fits

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Speaker 2: He fits in that, he fits up perfectly. He could

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Speaker 2: be a three for a lot of teams out there.

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Speaker 2: He could be a three and start a playoffs, no

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Speaker 2: doubt for the Phillies. Not the Phillies because they have

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Speaker 2: for the for most teams, he's probably starting a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Casey would start a playoff game for many teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, although last year for Detroit they were like, one

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Speaker 2: time to the lineup, we got to get him out

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Speaker 2: if you remember so, yeah, it was like, oh, we

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Speaker 1: That's part of their style too though, right, Like they're

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Speaker 1: very tempted to go to their controlled chaos the Tigers,

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Speaker 1: which works. Does it works for a round or so?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean.

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Speaker 3: I mean that the argument would be, well, the Tigers,

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Speaker 3: one series they won Scoobal did he lose two or

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Speaker 1: And yeah, they lost some starts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But also let's not forget they had Schoobale in Game

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Speaker 2: five against the Mariners and didn't win that game, not

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Speaker 2: because of anything Schooble did. They lost the game because

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Speaker 2: they couldn't hit right, and they went fifteen innings and

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Speaker 2: times in that game. I forget, I don't have my

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Speaker 2: they couldn't hit. It wasn't because schoobl did any wrong.

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Speaker 2: You think he gained six innings with like one run

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Speaker 3: But hey, their hitters are supposed to get better. It's

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Speaker 1: They are a year older. Every time year older, you

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Speaker 1: should be better. Just general thought in life. Also, AJ's

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Speaker 1: still broadcasting that game. But yes, it was not Schooble's fault.

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Speaker 1: It was on game.

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Speaker 4: It was a game so many twisting turns in that game.

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Speaker 1: It's still one of my favorite broadcasts to you guys

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Speaker 1: were great. All right, let's charge.

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Speaker 3: Let's charge that.

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Speaker 1: We do have one little eddy bitty trade. The Angels

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Speaker 1: send Logan o'hapy and Chase still Seth over to the

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Speaker 1: Texas Rangers. Ohapi immediately gets optioned. He's had a tough year,

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Speaker 1: him greatly for his overall baseball knowledge and for his

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Speaker 1: prospect knowledge. So JJ Cooper has been tweeting about this

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Speaker 1: trade confused. That's not a good sign when one of

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Speaker 1: out on a limb to be like the one player

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Speaker 1: they got in return on hell Aridondo. And this is

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Speaker 1: no slide on him. I don't know him. Did not

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Speaker 1: at the time of the trade. Sometimes, when the trade happens,

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Speaker 1: this is JJ's quote, you check with sources to make

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Speaker 1: sure you don't miss something on a guy who should

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Speaker 1: be one of those times. A J Does that mean

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Speaker 1: Aridando might not be a big league contributor. No, but

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Speaker 1: generally the industry looks at prospects in at least a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I mean, I don't know what this was.

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Speaker 2: This doesn't make sense from in the division. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't understand unless John mozelok

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Speaker 2: Artie Marino has allowed it. But I don't understand it

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna look, I have to re look at Silsa's numbers,

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Speaker 3: But his other numbers are really good. Other numbers are

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Speaker 2: I mean he's got a two seven to two with

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Speaker 4: I mean that's pretty good. I mean the twenty two

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Speaker 3: Me, don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't totally get it. And I'm not a big

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Speaker 3: like each team. You just it's okay if it's not.

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Speaker 3: But he's not even in the top thirty, the guy

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Speaker 3: Fioka's out and now they're going with Elias Diaz and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Rangers are going to do some things

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Speaker 1: as they should. They've had a nice little stretch lately.

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Speaker 1: They're involved. They're recognizing an opportunity here too. AJ So

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Speaker 1: they won the World Series in twenty twenty three, right,

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Speaker 1: twenty four and twenty five they couldn't hit. They still

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Speaker 1: did try at each trade deadline. They tried to push

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Speaker 1: a little bit this offseason with a acquisition like Mackenzie Gore. Right,

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Speaker 1: and still the team looks kind of similar to the

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Speaker 1: past couple of years, like they look okay, not great,

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Speaker 1: but they're still going to add and wait. The difference

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Speaker 1: this year is the division kind of sucks.

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Speaker 4: Kind of sucks. It doesn't suck, It doesn't kind of suck.

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Speaker 4: It just sucks.

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Speaker 2: We don't need to sugarcoat that the division sucks. And

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Speaker 2: what's amazing is the Astros. As much as we've talked

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dodgers are always a hot ticket, you know. It

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Speaker 4: Do nothing says I love you like the Me and

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Speaker 1: You know, he's he's kind of shut down right now.

432
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 1: Not great.

433
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's always it always seems like with Byron,

434
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 2: as good as he is, It's like, when is he

435
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 2: going to get hurt again? And unfortunately it was a

436
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,199
Speaker 2: couple of days ago. I think he was trying to

437
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,439
Speaker 2: steal a base and hurt his hip and is.

438
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 4: Out now in the IL.

439
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 2: That really hurts the Twins because they're I mean, I

440
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 2: know we kind of make fun of them, but.

441
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 4: They're actually alive in this race just because the rest

442
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 4: of the America League is so bad.

443
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, does this signal them selling a little bit? Not

444
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 3: like they're in it?

445
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 4: They're in it.

446
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,160
Speaker 3: They're in it. I get it, I get it. That's

447
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 3: their Aaron Judge does it? Does it signal doesn't say Okay,

448
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 3: we're fine getting rid of Ryan Jeffers Or is it

449
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 3: saying no, now we can't get rid of anybody.

450
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 1: I think they were always getting rid of Brian Jeffers,

451
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 1: but that they're holding onto you know, anything else, even

452
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 1: anything else, I would say probably short term like it

453
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 1: just they think they can win without Jeffers. I mean,

454
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: he did miss a chunk of this season and they

455
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: were still hitting without him. But this is more of

456
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: a narrative with the city, like they just they can't

457
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: start trading the long term assets away right now or

458
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: even a shorter term asset like a Joe Ryan is interesting,

459
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: Like I know he's not pitching as well lately, but

460
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like he's going to get moved. All right,

461
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: let's do this ranking each team's trade deadline activity in

462
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: what it says about their ambitions in twenty twenty six

463
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: and beyond the athletic put out tiers. Let's run through

464
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: the tiers. Shall we? Tier one World Series or Bust.

465
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 1: It's the team that won back to back World Series titles.

466
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: I love when I start talking and Crats shakes his head.

467
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 1: I'm not even being sarcastic. Krats look disappointed. It's the Dodgers.

468
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: Why are you shaking your head?

469
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 3: Because I'm disappointed that there's really truly only one team

470
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: that's in this mode.

471
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that though? Do you feel like

472
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: they're the only team that should be there? So let's

473
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: go to tier two here.

474
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 3: Where we have no no that I agree with it. Now,

475
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I disagree with it. I'm saying, oh,

476
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 3: I disagree. Teams should be more in World Series or

477
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 3: Bust mode. There should be more like this is your chance.

478
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 3: This is why some teams don't ever win because they're

479
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 3: not truly in the World Series or bust mode. The

480
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 3: Dodgers have been built for the last ten years to

481
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 3: be in World Series or bust. The Yankees used to

482
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: be a team that were World Series or busts, or

483
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 3: they're just not pleased with anything that's the World Series.

484
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 3: I think more teams should be But we can continue.

485
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: In the article, they said they would have put the

486
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 1: Yankees in Tier one if they had more clarity on

487
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge's status, but they instead put them in Tier two.

488
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: The Brewers are in Tier two, The Rays are in

489
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: Tier two. The Braves are in Tier two. By the way,

490
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: for the Braves, it's been coming out. It looks like

491
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: Strider might not pitch the rest of the year. Smith

492
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: Shober just came back. But man, that's a tough one

493
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: for Atlanta. They're gonna have to do some work. I

494
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: know they've got guys coming back here, but try and

495
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: get a big boy, get a horse. I digress, aj,

496
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean this is still a good list containing sustainable.

497
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, but contending sustainably. I don't care. The Brewers and

498
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 4: the Rays. Have they ever won a World Series?

499
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: God?

500
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 4: No, no, you know what it should be World Series

501
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 4: or bust.

502
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: This is your chance. You have mis you hopefully get

503
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: Harrison back. You have your team that can play a

504
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: little bit different style of baseball. You got your asses

505
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: beat by the Dodgers last year in the playoffs, you

506
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: got swept. You're all happy we finally won a playoff series,

507
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: first time since twenty eighteen. Nobody cares. You gotta win

508
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: a World Series. And for the Rays, yes they've been

509
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: to the World Series. Yes you've had chances, they.

510
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 4: Haven't won one.

511
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: New ownership, hopefully a new stadium. You know what, it'll

512
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: get a new stadium approved Tampa Bay, a World Series championship.

513
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: So go out and do whatever you have to do

514
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: to make it happen. I'm sorry, I hate this. Oh

515
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: we want to be sustainable. How about you win a

516
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: World Series first, and then you become sustainable. And oh yeah,

517
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: by the way, the Yankees having one since twenty nineteen

518
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: or sorry, excuse me, two thousand and nine, that's a

519
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 2: long time in Yankee Land. That's almost getting to the

520
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: point of unacceptable. So sustainable, Go win a World Series,

521
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: get Aaron Judges World Series, right, So get to that

522
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 2: point and then you can be sustainable. It Braves just

523
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: one not that long ago. So there you got a

524
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: little bit more leash. These other teams haven't won some

525
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: of them ever.

526
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: Show a team that pushed all Show me a team

527
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 3: that pushed all in, and show me the next five years.

528
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: We're so we're so ingrained to be like, you know what,

529
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: there's a five year rebuild and then it's like, oh,

530
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 3: we're so afraid of the reverse. You push all in,

531
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 3: and then it's going to be another five year rebuild.

532
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 3: No it's not. You choose to make it a five

533
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 3: year rebuild. Show me what's going to happen. Show me

534
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: what happened after two thousand and nine because of the

535
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 3: CC Sabbathia trade. Michael Brantley was going to keep the

536
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: Brewers afloat in two thousand and nine, ten eleven, twelve,

537
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 3: so they chose to get rid of guys.

538
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: He was throwing.

539
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 3: Is what he was.

540
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: The throw in too. He wasn't even the main peak like.

541
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 4: He was one that was Lamora. I played against him,

542
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 4: I played against him.

543
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: Jason Donald. No, Jason Donald wasn't on that he was.

544
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: They were worried about trading Laporta, and they did it,

545
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: and how did it go Laporta.

546
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 4: Was the one.

547
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 3: So that's what I mean when people bring this up.

548
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 3: Because I just spent a weekend Thursday, Friday, Saturday in Milwaukee.

549
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: Everybody from the people working for the Brewers to people

550
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 3: working at the air to fans in the stadium. What

551
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: do I kept asking, what do you think the Brewers need?

552
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: And they're like, I don't know. I just want a

553
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 3: World Series. I want them to want the World Series

554
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 3: as badly as we do. And I think it is

555
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: it's time. They've experienced the playoffs, Nido gang. That community's

556
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: gonna come out and support this baseball team no matter

557
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,719
Speaker 3: what happens. They've built this sustainability. It's time to push

558
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: and to be remembered forever that eighty two team that

559
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 3: went to the World Series, like they're remembered forever. Shoot,

560
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 3: I've played for four months for a team twenty five

561
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 3: year reunion. They invited me back like, and we got

562
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: close to making it to the World Series. If you

563
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: win a World Series, it will change. It will change

564
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 3: the landscape of Brewers fandom, and I think the franchise.

565
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 1: I think this part for clarity is important. You know,

566
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: some fans have been trained to look at their teams

567
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: like a portfolio, and the Brewers are a perfect case

568
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: of a team that's done a brilliant job of building

569
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: a great baseball team in the regular season, but also

570
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: one of the best farm systems in the sport. If

571
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: you pluck a few away from their top fifteen, they're

572
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: going to be okay. Also, save your comment about Jesus Made.

573
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: It does not require a Jesus Made to get even

574
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: a Terek schoobl That is a fact. You can get

575
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: past Hazeus Made. They're not trading him. That's their best prospect.

576
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: He's in some world's the number one prospect in the

577
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: sport right now. You don't need to do that, So

578
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: save that comment saying we're not trading moday. I'm good.

579
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm with you. But there's plenty left in the cupboard

580
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: for them to trade to pull this off. And if anything,

581
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a logjam there, which is

582
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: a great problem. It's the perfect time to make this trade.

583
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: AJ smashed the Orioles for a few years for holding, holding, holding,

584
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: and then they kind of missed the window. And I

585
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: know you have two crats, so don't do that. I

586
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: think they will do more. I think they learned from

587
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: last year, like, oh wow, we ended up with the

588
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: best record in baseball. We knew we were going to

589
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: end up well, we didn't realize we were going to

590
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: end up that well. And if you look back, they

591
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: did essentially nothing at the deadline. All right, So let's

592
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: get to the tier three. Can we make noise in October?

593
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: That includes the Phillies, the Cubs, the Red Sox, the Guardians,

594
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: and the Mariners. They specifically point out a team like

595
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: the Phillies for the age crats of some of their

596
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: players and how there's more sense of urgency and we've

597
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: talked about that for years and there should be more

598
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: of a sense of urgency for a team like that.

599
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: They actually pointed out the Cubs for their age too

600
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: with some of their players. I'm not as worried about

601
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: the Cubs, you know, looking at players getting past their

602
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: prime yet. But then they said for Cleveland it's always

603
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: the same story. They need offense, and they said, yes,

604
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: the Mariners in Red Sox. If you look at those

605
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: two teams before the season started and you fell asleep

606
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: and then you wake up right now, you'd be like,

607
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: oh man, that's not great. But they still think that

608
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: those two teams can rise through the noise, and in

609
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: order to do that they need to supplement their roster.

610
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, Phillies, yes, Phillies. It should be World Series or Bus.

611
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry crats, it should be it should be I

612
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: mean yes. The Red Sox every year used to be

613
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: World Series or Bus until they won all those World Series.

614
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: Now it's like, oh, well, we need to spend money

615
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: in Liverpool and the soccer team, and.

616
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 4: We need to have the lebron James make money over

617
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: and wherever he's.

618
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: Playing in Philadelphia. Right, The Guardians are not going to

619
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: do it. We all know that the Mariners are the

620
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 2: interesting one. The ownership will probably won't let Jerry Depoto

621
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: do it. The Cubs have all the resources in the world.

622
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: It should be World Series or Bus for them every year.

623
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, can we make noise in October?

624
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 4: That's what's funny.

625
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: The Cubs, because they won in twenty sixteen, ten years ago,

626
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: are like, oh, we won ten years ago. We have

627
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: ninety eight years until we have to worry about winning

628
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: or whatever it is, right, because we just won ten

629
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: years ago. But they should be World Series or Bus

630
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: because they have the resources. They are the Chicago Cubs.

631
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: They have Wrigley they have wrigley Ville, they have all

632
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: the stuff that comes with it.

633
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 4: They have the hotel the other teams stay in, so

634
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: other teams pay.

635
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: Them to stay in a hotel that they own, right,

636
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 2: So I mean where we hung up here, Cubs, Like

637
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: that's the thing. Like there are some teams on this

638
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: list that And by the way, I said that about

639
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: the Rays and the Brewers. You know what those teams

640
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: have over the Mariners. They've been to a World Series.

641
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 2: The Mirrors have never even been to a World Series.

642
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: Hmm.

643
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: But it's not bust. It's not it's it's not World

644
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: Series or bust. Don't worry about it. Nope, We're gonna

645
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: definitely create because we have Kate Anderson comany and we're

646
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: going to create five more starting pitchers and not add

647
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: to this team. I think the Mariners of people on

648
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: this list, I think the Mariners have done. They did,

649
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: they did their heavy lifting in the offseason. Now it's

650
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: time for the players to go. I think the Red

651
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: Sox we're like, you know what, we think pitching is

652
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: gonna get the job done. I think the Cubs have

653
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: built their team on defense. I think the Phillies are

654
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: the one on this list. I think it's a clear

655
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: delineation that it is now. The Red Sox will be around,

656
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: the Guardians will always can you to surprise people and

657
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: make a run because they have Jose Ramirez, and I

658
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: think the Mariners do create pitching. But the Phillies, it's now.

659
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: The Phillies is now now. Could they win it again

660
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: next year? Absolutely? Are they gonna need to make an adjustment? Absolutely,

661
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: I don't. You don't create the worst ops plus from

662
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: an outfield corps and expect, hey, you know what we're

663
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: gonna We're gonna just we're gonna be fine. You don't

664
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: have two guys with over an eight hundred ops going

665
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: into the month of August and say, eh, we're fine.

666
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: There has to be a big change, and I have.

667
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: I'm really surprised that the hitting coach is still around

668
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: because it's the same things over and over again. And

669
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: I don't know that the answer in the lineup is

670
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: out there at the trade deadline because they don't have

671
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: enough pieces to add to it. So they're very intriguing

672
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: team in that sense.

673
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to do things, but it's not easy

674
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: right now to find the offense that you're looking for.

675
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: Some years it is some years are like, oh that

676
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: player went for that. It's it seems a little bit

677
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: more difficult, especially righty hitting. Some teams that are looking

678
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: for a right handed bat are going to have to

679
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: just say, you know what, it's got to be a

680
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: left handed bat. We'll have a little less balance in

681
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: the lineup. But there's just not enough out there. There

682
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: just is not enough there right now in terms of

683
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: right handed pop.

684
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: That's a hoping and you're hoping your hope. You're gonna

685
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,479
Speaker 3: they're gonna bring somebody in for the Phillies because they

686
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: don't have enough in the minor league system. You're going

687
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: to hope that person does well. You bring in a

688
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: Dalton Varshow, I hope he does well like he had.

689
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: He had some really good spurts last year. He hasn't

690
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: done well this year. Maybe water levels out, you know.

691
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: I think that's the positive spin they'll put on it.

692
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: But again, it's another lefty. He punches out a little bit,

693
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: he runs the bases better than some of the guys.

694
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: So there's there's positives, but it's not this Byron Buxton,

695
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: Mike Trout type of move.

696
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing I want to be clear about this

697
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: isn't like a call, oh, this team should spend money.

698
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: It's just you should do things at the trade deadline

699
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: that are painful in order to improve your team. That's

700
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: what it is. You sure you're going to take on

701
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: the money of a player coming through, but it's the

702
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: last two months of their salary. It's more about actually

703
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: trading away prospects and not prospect hugging. And also it's

704
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: there's a delineation with who you value as your top

705
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: guys and then not being concerned about every single prospect, right, Like, hey,

706
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: these are the two or three we have circled, but

707
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: the team can choose from these other seven or eight

708
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: in our top ten that you can't.

709
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: I looked at it more from the fans point of view.

710
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: What are the fans? How are the fans reacting to this?

711
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: Like this is this is you know the athletics, what

712
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: there says about their ambitions.

713
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 4: But let's talk I'm talking about the fans. What the

714
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: fans think? Right?

715
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: These are the teams that we talked about that said

716
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: should be all in. Are teams that have fans that

717
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: want to win their rabbit.

718
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 4: I mean Listen. You say what you want about.

719
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: The Rays in their fan base, but they have a

720
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: good fan base. It's like Oakland's old base. They have

721
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen thousand that are pretty solid. Okay, But

722
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: then you get to Cleveland, who we know comes out

723
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 2: in the postseason. Right, you get to Seattle they pack

724
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: it every year, right, I mean these are teams the

725
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: Brewers they pack every game. So these are fan bases

726
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: that want and need to win. And then we can

727
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: obviously bring up the Yankees. Yankees fans are so used

728
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: to winning. It's almost been twenty years since they won

729
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 2: that we're talking, you know, the eighties the for the Yankees,

730
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: right when they didn't win for all those years.

731
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: We're back in the middle of it again.

732
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: What about Tier four? The title is is this really

733
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: worth it? And two of the teams they pointed out

734
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: in the article were the Twins and the Pirates, And

735
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: my answer to the Pirates, a Jay is a resounding yes,

736
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: this is worth it. If you make it to the postseason,

737
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: it's a win. Agrees.

738
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean the Rangers just won, so, I mean

739
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: they're a little bit different. But Padres again never won

740
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: a World Series, right, Astros they've won. Fine, they can

741
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 2: do without. The Tigers have it won since eighty four?

742
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 4: Right? The Blue Jays, they're not.

743
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: Doing anything this year. The Dvacs, I don't know if

744
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: they have enough to win the World Series. But a

745
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 2: team like the Pirates, are you kidding me?

746
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: Yes?

747
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: They haven't been to the postseason in so long, and

748
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: all we heard about is how miserable it is there. Well,

749
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: they have a chance to get in.

750
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 4: You go for it. I'm sorry, you go for it.

751
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

752
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: I think on this list, I think they're the one

753
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: team that has the least but most glaring hole to fill.

754
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: I think if you face you talk about getting to

755
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: the postseason, awesome story. Great, if the Pirates make it,

756
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: they'll show up in all black. But you start Game

757
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: one with Paul Skeins, Braxton, Ashgraft, Mitch Keller, Okay, you're set.

758
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: They improve this offense. Whether people believed it was gonna

759
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: happen or not, this offense is the real deal. Brian

760
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: Reynolds doesn't have to carry the load as Merlin Valdez

761
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: is hitting dangers. He is like a thousand ops right now.

762
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: They have Brandon Lao, Ryan o'hearne. They have pieces in

763
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 3: that lineup. To me, this is when they push push,

764
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: push push with somebody to be able to anchor two

765
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 3: somebody's maybe even a third somebody to anchor that bullpen.

766
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've said this since our show existed. Sometimes the

767
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: teams like, ah, we're good, but we're one year away,

768
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: and then that next year two of your starters go

769
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: down and then you're.

770
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: Like Orioles the first year, the Aadlie Rutchman and the

771
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 3: and the Pirates. This could happen for the Pirates. The

772
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: reason it could happen for the Pirates is because what

773
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: is the cheapest out of all those three categories, the

774
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: cheapest player to acquire. I mean even if a guys

775
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: making four million dollars, you're paying for a third of

776
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: the four million dollars. You know what. We can handle this.

777
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 3: So this is where they need to strike. They need

778
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: to strike and they need to get two or three

779
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: pieces to put in that bullpen.

780
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: Uh, the last tier we should show. The other ones

781
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 1: are not in it. So the last tier we should

782
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: show is tier five where this one might hurt Jay

783
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: a little bit, but it's really fun. It's talking about

784
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: how you're in it. But maybe wouldn't mind dropping some

785
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: games to make it an easier decision, right, Like Cardinals

786
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: have dropped off a little bit. Nuts are still pretty

787
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: in the mix. I mean, these teams are all in

788
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: the mix like they are.

789
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: That's aren't going for it. We can eliminate them.

790
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: We know the Marlins aren't going to do anything, like

791
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: why are they even on this list? They're in the

792
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: We don't want to pay anybody.

793
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 4: A dollar range. Right, So the Heat we know dain

794
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 4: in the one. The one is twenty. The White Sox.

795
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: All I've heard is the White Sox are going to

796
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: do this and do that. Jim Boden said it yesterday.

797
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: Bob Nightingale doesn't believe it, but I believe they're going

798
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: to do something. It might be smaller moves, but they

799
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: can win this division. It's a winnable division. And for

800
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: a team that lost one hundred games in a row,

801
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: I'm not saying World Series or bust, but they should

802
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: be in the Is it worth it or not? One

803
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: million percent? It's worth it because your fan base has

804
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: been showing out. Check out the numbers of the fans

805
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: that have been at the Yankees game, and since they've

806
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 2: been in first place, the people of Chicago are getting

807
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: behind this team. They like this team, they think this

808
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: team is fun to watch. Add to it and make

809
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: it better and take your shot.

810
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: And it's the we know where your early category. By

811
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: the way, for Tier five And the case which they

812
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: defended in this article is that the White Sox should

813
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: be in Tier four, and I agree. They said they

814
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: won't put them in until they show that they actually

815
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: will act like a contender at a trade deadline to me.

816
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: But to me, aren't the White Sox in the same

817
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: range as the Pirates where they're both around the same

818
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: chance of making the playoffs and should be adding so

819
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: that they can at least get themselves back into the

820
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: mix there? Or you think the Pirates are kind of

821
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: like does a team like that belong one tier up?

822
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: Or don't they belong in a similar tier? I know

823
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: it's been much longer since the Pirates make the playoffs, but.

824
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: You to me, yes, I understand what you're saying, But

825
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: to me, the differences The Pirates are in a tougher

826
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: national league, okay, and you got to face the Dodgers,

827
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: the Phillies, the Braves, the Brewers, the Cubs.

828
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 4: Okay, fine, Now can you win the World Series.

829
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: If you run skiens in Ashcraft and Keller and Bubba

830
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: Chandler figures out and you get some bullpen help. I

831
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: don't know, but you have a pretty good chance. The

832
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: thing about the White Sox is the American League is down.

833
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: We keep saying it over and over again. You get

834
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: in and listen. Sean Burke has been really good. Davis

835
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: Martin will figure it out.

836
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 4: Right.

837
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: They have some offense in Marcami and Antonaci and both

838
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: Montgomery boys.

839
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 4: They need to find a catcher.

840
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: That's the thing for me. If Kyle Tie, we don't

841
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: know when he's coming back. Edgar Kiro not the answer.

842
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: Tony Romo, I know his name's not Tony Romo. Drew

843
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: Romo not the answer right as a long term everyday guy.

844
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: What's a hut?

845
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: Tony Roma was in some trouble.

846
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's fine, that'll be fine. I'll figure.

847
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I love when he said in my in

848
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: trouble and they get the officer said turn around and

849
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: he's like, oops, I guess, which was pretty funny.

850
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: Here he goes, did I pass? But we don't need

851
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: to get into that. Yeah, but I mean I'm sorry, Like,

852
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 4: and you need a starting you need a starting pitcher.

853
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: I think they've kind of figured out the back end

854
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: the White Sox with Taylor and some of the other guys.

855
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: They run out and god, Sir, Anthony Domingo's out of

856
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: the ninth inning rule. But you need another starter in

857
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: a catcher. Those are the two biggest needs for me

858
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: for the White Sox. Now, what that move is Foster Griffin,

859
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: That would be a good move for the White Sox,

860
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: someone like that. And as far as catcher goes, I

861
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: don't know because I just don't know what catcher will

862
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: be traded. I mean, Hunter Goodman would be nice, but

863
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: then you hurt Kyle Teele's value, right, So it's got

864
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: to be a right handed hitting I don't want to

865
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: say a backup, but a backup that could play every day.

866
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: Tyler Stevenson. Tyler Stevenson would be good, but a j

867
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: What you just said, the American League is bad. I

868
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 3: think we all can agree with that. So does that

869
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: bode to the point of why they're in the tea

870
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Speaker 3: or that they're.

871
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: In Yes, well, I think because I think people look

872
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 2: at the division and the league that they're in and say,

873
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: oh wow, you can actually maybe make some noise this

874
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: year or White Sox, and they have made noise, so

875
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: they deserve credit for that. But I always listen. It's

876
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: what it's like what we talked about Jim Duke. As

877
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: a former player, you always want the team in the

878
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: team that you root for or the team that you're

879
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: on to do something to help your team take that

880
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: next step. And I think that's what White Sox fans

881
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: are looking for because they want to see the White

882
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: Sox take the next step because they've dealt with the

883
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: crap for the last three years of losing one hundred

884
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 2: games and the promise of we have this guy coming,

885
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: this guy coming, Well, guess what if it's a year early,

886
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: so what it's still there for the taking if you

887
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: want it.

888
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to embrace the year early thing. Sometimes

889
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: the window. This is the consistency with the window. It

890
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: almost always you're winning. Window starts earlier than you expected

891
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: and ends earlier than you expect it.

892
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 4: But you have to be ready to pounce. You have

893
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: to be ready to pounce when that.

894
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: I look at the Cubs when they won, right, and

895
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: as much as we all know that I love the Cubs,

896
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: but I'll give them credit. I'll give THEO in that

897
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: front office credit. When it came time, they were ready.

898
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: They already had a deal, they already had lesser there, right,

899
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: they already had Lackey there. Twenty fifteen boom, and then

900
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen came and it was like, oh, we caught

901
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: lightning in a bottle.

902
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: We can win this whole thing. And then they were

903
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 4: like expected to.

904
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: Have this long, long window of winning and they never

905
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: came close again.

906
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 4: So if you have that chance, you got to take it.

907
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: There is a rhetoric in front offices about sustainable winning

908
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: product that actually is publicly stated frequently these days in

909
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: the off season. And I don't know, if I'm a fan,

910
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, can you just say I want to win

911
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: a World Series title? Like you don't have to say

912
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: I want to win a World Series but then we

913
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: might suck for five years, but every fan base would

914
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: take that. So the sustainable winning product, now, I'm good

915
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: if it's your year. And yes, I know we've picked

916
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: on it, pick the Brewers, and yes you can do both.

917
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: And actually, you know, you know who's done this pretty

918
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: well in terms of the trades. Aj Preler wheels and deals,

919
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: and sometimes he's traded away some big guys, and then

920
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: he does a nice job of replenishing, and I know

921
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: it's getting a little barren, but he bets on himself

922
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: to replenish again, and that's how he's able to make

923
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: these big trades. Right, Mason Miller is not the most

924
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: expensive guy. He was the most expensive guy prospect wise

925
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: last year, giving up someone like Leo DeVries if he

926
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: turns into a star. Okay, but you got the best

927
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: closer in baseball like.

928
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 3: Byes come from. He came from the minor league system,

929
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: which which just returns and regard international prospects.

930
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, So I love it. I'm with you. So

931
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: it's fun playing the Tears. And of course you know

932
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: we're going to be pushy, but I think fans need

933
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: to make sure that they feel pushy about a team

934
00:43:50,719 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: that is in contention. A few little notes on our

935
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 1: way out. I know, AJ you've been watching that Yankees

936
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: White Sox series. Defensively, the Yankees had a little problem yesterday.

937
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 4: Okay.

938
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: As a former catcher, I'm just gonna say this, and

939
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: I know things happened fast than the big Lenkus cratch

940
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: with two outs. And I tell my son this all

941
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: the time. With two outs, if you're going to backpick

942
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: a guy unless you're absolutely here's the thing, unless your

943
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: kitcher's in an awful jam. Right, crats like an awful jam.

944
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: It's an inning, they're thirty pitches in and the bases

945
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: are loaded. You can steal them out and get him

946
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: out of the inning quickly make that throw. Other than that,

947
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: there is no situation where I'm throwing the ball to

948
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: try to pick a guy off, especially at third base

949
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 2: when he's the tying run. They have to get a

950
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: hit or and earn that run. You cannot just I

951
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: watched this live and I literally was like, I do

952
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: not know what just happened. I don't know why he

953
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 2: threw the ball.

954
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 4: I know McMahon broke.

955
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't know why McMahon broke if he was speaking,

956
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: But that throw was just completely That whole play was

957
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: a disaster.

958
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: It cost him a game.

959
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: I was happy because I'm a Wait Tuck fan, But wow,

960
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: I cannot believe that they made that throat. If you

961
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: haven't seen it, you're just gonna have to google it.

962
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: The catcher tries to throw it look like you wasn't

963
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: ready to throw, and again two outscratched you cannot throw

964
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 2: the ball.

965
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 3: I'll even go on top of that. What I tell

966
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: catchers and I tell my team there's two outs in

967
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 3: the game, the runner on third. Especially young kids, especially

968
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: high school kids, they're.

969
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 4: Like, oh, runner on third, Oh my gosh.

970
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: Block the ball. Honestly, I don't even care if we're up.

971
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: I think it was two oh count right there. I

972
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: don't care if you can't find the strike zone. I

973
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to walk two guys and still get

974
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: three to zero. One another batter, and we're still not

975
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: losing the game. Like, I am not picking off? Who

976
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 3: was it? Didn Max Muntz He say like, hey, we'll

977
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 3: think about maybe picking ikf off here in the World

978
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 3: Series Game seven. No, Giants, No, you aren't doing it.

979
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: It's not happening. And I love throwing. AJ was really

980
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: good at hitting. I really liked throwing. I would throw

981
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 3: the basis. I loved picking guys off a second, trying

982
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: to back pick it first. That's not the situation. You

983
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: have the picture in that situation where you're like, we're

984
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: gonna get the out and we're gonna get out of

985
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: the inning. Ice he threw it, and then he and

986
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: then he yard garded it to third.

987
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: Well, get your mistakes out of the way now.

988
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 4: But isn't this always what we say again?

989
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: Listen, Yankees are really good, but they make mistakes on

990
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: defense and they have to hit homers to score because

991
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: they went like three extra innings and they they only

992
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: scored because you know whatever, because they scored one run

993
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: in three innings I think in extra innings because they

994
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: didn't hit homers.

995
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 4: It's kind of the Yankees thing.

996
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: In that situation, Ali, He's like, hey, hey, we're we're

997
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: we're picking here. He's like, nope, nope.

998
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 2: Plus he had too far to go. It was a shift.

999
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: He was playing shortstop.

1000
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: Basically, we have, Oh, Dodgers territory, if you want it,

1001
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1002
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1003
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Speaker 1: on the way out. Is that a tiger's hat for

1004
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: Kratz hats?

1005
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, tiger's hat, tiger shirt. We gotta get it done.

1006
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Speaker 3: We gotta get it done, Tarrek's scooba. We gotta get

1007
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: this done before Scotty gets on his flight on Sunday night.

1008
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Speaker 3: But as history will say, that's when it's happening Tiger Territory,

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