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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in our number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we

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Speaker 2: roll into the Memorial Day weekend and obviously Memorial Day

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Speaker 2: weekend about honoring and respecting everyone who has given us

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Speaker 2: the freedoms to be able to have the good fortune

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Speaker 2: to live in the United States. And we talk sometimes

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Speaker 2: on this show Booth Buck and myself we're pretty big

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Speaker 2: history nerds, and Buck, I will say one of the

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Speaker 2: coolest things I've ever gotten to do from a history

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Speaker 2: nerd perspective.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've gotten to go. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we've talked about this.

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Speaker 2: I got to go to spend the day touring the

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Speaker 2: beaches of Normandy several years ago. And when you get

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Speaker 2: to the United States Cemetery there and you see all

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Speaker 2: of those white crosses as far as you can see.

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Speaker 2: Of those you know, young teenage twenty somethings at best

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Speaker 2: oftentimes are in their thirties, but most of the time

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Speaker 2: much younger than that, and you see the ground that

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Speaker 2: they stormed. It's an incredibly ennobling experience. And what's wild

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Speaker 2: is even seventy some odd years after January June sixth

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Speaker 2: of nineteen forty four, you can still see that ground.

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Speaker 2: It still looks very similar. It's hallowed ground, but still farms.

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Speaker 2: It hasn't changed very much in that area of France.

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Speaker 2: And so as we sort of move into Memorial Day,

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Speaker 2: obviously a lot of you also are going to be

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Speaker 2: hanging out with friends. I know, Buck down in Miami,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have some friends over to your and Carrie's place.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that we'll do the same in the Nashville area,

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Speaker 2: spend some time with friends and family. Much less serious

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Speaker 2: than honoring all those who have given us the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to have the freedoms that we do. A big part

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Speaker 2: of typically Memorial Day for a lot of people is

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Speaker 2: grilling out. He starts to celebrate the start of summer.

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Speaker 2: And we're in an incredible inflection point here, by which

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that we have ever seen

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Speaker 2: people out there who are on the right, who are conservatives,

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Speaker 2: who are independent, who are reasonable, rising up against brands.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how many of you have seen

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Speaker 2: this footage out there, And I want to give you

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Speaker 2: a preview of where I think this is going. Bud

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Speaker 2: Light is basically giving away their beer now I mean

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Speaker 2: Walmart's everywhere grocery stores, if you're out like.

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Speaker 1: A thousands per dollar, right, I mean yes.

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Speaker 2: And I think what they're doing Buck is they've gotten

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Speaker 2: so desperate because nobody is buying bud Light that they

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Speaker 2: are basically giving it away and they're going to be

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Speaker 2: losing tens of millions of dollars in revenue in the process.

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Speaker 2: But they're just trying to get rid of their product.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: It's like when you've overloaded on inventory and people haven't

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Speaker 2: bought what you want, and they're going to try to say, well,

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Speaker 2: we've reversed the collapse in our business because over a

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Speaker 2: Memorial Day weekend, their volume theoretically may go back up

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Speaker 2: because so many people are going to go out and buy.

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Speaker 1: You see this, though, the poster is reporting that bud

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Speaker 1: Light truck drivers have been flipped the bird and called

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Speaker 1: homophobic slurs. Just I know this audience already knows this,

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Speaker 1: But the bud Light truck drivers are not to blame

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Speaker 1: in any of this. They had no part of the

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Speaker 1: first of all, the you shouldn't do this to anybody anyway.

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't be, you know, profane and nasty to people

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Speaker 1: you don't know for no reason. But you know, it's

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Speaker 1: one thing to choose not to buy a product. It's

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Speaker 1: another thing to you know, to take it out of

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Speaker 1: because I actually I bring it up because I feel

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Speaker 1: bad for the bud Light truck drivers because those guys,

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Speaker 1: first of all, listen to this show. Yeah, they're on

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Speaker 1: our team for the most part, and you know they're

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Speaker 1: they're paying a financial price here, and I think that

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Speaker 1: can get lost in all this. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that in the end, we got to do

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Speaker 1: these things and this is the way it's going to be,

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Speaker 1: but it may be something to think about. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you happen to be a I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: if you know some guy who's a conservative poons of beer,

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Speaker 1: maybe he could help some of these guys out, get

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Speaker 1: them a transport other beer.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think what has to happen is what is happening,

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Speaker 2: and there's gonna be some collateral damage along the way.

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Speaker 2: And yes, certainly you should treat people with respect who

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Speaker 2: keep this economy rolling. As opposed to Democrats who are

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Speaker 2: lockdowns made a lot of sense when everybody out there

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Speaker 1: In grocery store stockers. We're just gas station projective of

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Speaker 1: our truckers here after years and years of doing radio.

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Speaker 1: The truckers are like a special family within the family.

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Speaker 1: But what you're seeing is, I think this is a

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Speaker 1: big deal. Disney is now taking it on the chin.

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Speaker 1: Target taking it on the chin, bud Light taking it

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Speaker 1: now almost diverb where brands are sitting around saying we

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Speaker 1: don't want to get bud lighted. Target stock price has

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Speaker 1: collapsed billions of dollars in lost market capitalization, as many

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Speaker 1: of you out there listening to us right now, particularly

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Speaker 1: moms who I would say are the backbone of the

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Speaker 1: like Target which is thumbing its nose at us. And

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Speaker 1: the fact that Disney has become a battleground here is

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Speaker 1: really kind of fascinating to me.

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Speaker 2: And Trump has come out. We played the audio yesterday

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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump talking about Ron DeSantis and he basically

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Speaker 2: Trump has taken the side of Disney. DeSantis came out

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Speaker 2: and said, look, Trump's taking Disney side. Listen to this

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Speaker 2: discussion last night with I Believe Eric Bowling on Newsmax

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Speaker 2: buck Listen to this.

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Speaker 3: Some of the things he's been attacking me on. I've

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Speaker 3: been a little surprised at because he's attacking me from

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Speaker 3: the left, and that really wasn't that Donald Trump from

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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen to twenty six he was a hard charger,

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Speaker 3: leaning in on all the issues, very edgy on conservative issues,

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Speaker 3: and it was part of the reason he did so well.

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Speaker 3: But when he's taken Disney side against me, I just

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Speaker 3: kind of wonder, like, Okay, I get he wants to

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Speaker 3: hit me, but don't take the side of a multinational

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Speaker 3: corporation that wants the sexualized kids. He's also hitting me

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Speaker 3: against voting against immigration amnesty, to hit me for being

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Speaker 3: taken the America first position, I just think is a

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Speaker 3: I think he's taking positions that are a little bit

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Speaker 3: different than four or five years ago.

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Speaker 2: Would you have ever believed, Buck, because I candidly would

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Speaker 2: not that a Republican primary debate would be fought over

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Speaker 2: whether Disney should be supported or not. This, to me

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Speaker 2: is a testament to how much of a disaster Bob

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Speaker 2: Eiger's leadership of Disney. And I saw it initially coming, Buck,

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Speaker 2: because I saw what they did to ESPN, and so

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Speaker 2: the way that they turned ESPN, which used to be

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Speaker 2: you know, I get up in my in the morning, Buck,

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Speaker 2: I'd pour my my cereal wash it.

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Speaker 1: In college it was sports Yeah, you put on Sports Center.

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Speaker 1: I know, we're crazy. You put on Sports Center, you

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Speaker 1: would see you who won or not?

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Speaker 2: And now you know, Dan Patrick and Keith Oberman back

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Speaker 2: in the day were an iconic duo on Sports Center.

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Speaker 2: Now Keith Oberman is sending tweets at you and me

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Speaker 2: like that are just drained, completely deranged, lunatic. But what

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Speaker 2: is happening with Disney. I saw happen at a ESPN.

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Speaker 2: That's why I found it out, Kick, and now I

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Speaker 2: see it going on at the larger corporate level, and

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Speaker 2: I do think it's strange, Buck. I mean, you tell

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Speaker 2: me if you disagree. I think it's strange that Donald

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Speaker 2: the bills that were put in place in Florida don't teach,

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Speaker 2: I got a second grader. He just finished school, by

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Speaker 2: the way, yesterday, he's now for the summer. Congrats to

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Speaker 2: Nash my youngest. I don't want him taught sex related

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Speaker 2: things and second grade like that. That's absurd. And so

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Speaker 2: the idea that Trump would be, as he put out

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Speaker 2: his attack ad on DeSantis yesterday that we played on

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Speaker 2: the show, coming down on the side of Disney and

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Speaker 2: against DeSantis, is really strange because now Trump's on the

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Speaker 1: Look. I think one thing we're gonna see is that

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Speaker 1: for people for whom Trump is already the guy, there

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Speaker 1: will be a sense that how did he win in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen? And it was this, you know, ambush, no rules,

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Speaker 1: do whatever you do to win becausepaign, but because that's

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Speaker 1: what you're up against with the Democrats. So this anything,

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Speaker 1: true political outsider. And so the question now becomes, as

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Speaker 1: can you really do that again? Because now you don't

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Speaker 1: just know that you were the system. And this is

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Speaker 1: another part of it that people keep saying, Oh, he's

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Speaker 1: an outsider. You're not a political outsider when you were

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Speaker 1: It doesn't. But we have to add some perspective here.

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Speaker 1: the strategy works. Now to your point about DeSantis and Disney,

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Speaker 1: to take whatever position in the primary is advantageous in

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Speaker 1: his mind to win, does that work irrespective of what

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Speaker 1: it would change for a general election position, right, because

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Speaker 1: I think and correct me if I'm wrong. If there's

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Speaker 1: some people who are all in and we heard from

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Speaker 1: You're all in on Trump already in the primary. Is

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Speaker 1: this just Trump doing what he has to do to

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Speaker 1: outflank DeSantis because this is a no holds barred primary,

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Speaker 1: or is this Trump actually changed, Is this really his

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Speaker 1: position or is this just to beat DeSantis? That's essentially

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Speaker 1: what I'm asking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and my question would be, what does Trump disagree

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Speaker 2: about what DeSantis has done with Disney? Because I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: be honest with you every step of the way that Remember,

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Speaker 2: Disney threw the first punch at Ron DeSantis, and you

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Speaker 2: can say, and this was there coming out against the

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Speaker 2: bill that huge majorities of parents support, which is why

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Speaker 2: I think it's emblematic of how much Disney has lost

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Speaker 2: their way. Remember what Disney did. They came out and said,

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Speaker 2: we disagree with a Florida bill that doesn't allow sexuality

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Speaker 2: to be taught to kindergarten, first, second and third graders.

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Speaker 2: I mean, why in the world did Disney take that

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Speaker 2: perspective in the first place. Disney's perspective is radical left

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Speaker 2: wing here and not supported by most parents. So if

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Speaker 2: you're DeSantis, you could take that punch, right, Sometimes you

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Speaker 2: take a punch and not respond. But no, DeSantis came

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Speaker 2: back and said, wait a minute, Disney. If you're going

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Speaker 2: our kids, then I'm not going to allow you to

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Speaker 2: get favorable political treatment when it comes to zoning on

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Friday Edition as we roll

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Speaker 2: into the holiday weekend. Okay, I tease this and I

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Speaker 2: The first thing I would do is shake the man's hand,

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Speaker 1: Anyway, angel saved him. The US rest question wrapped on

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Speaker 2: full disclosure. Have you ever left a crowded bar because

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Speaker 1: Plead the fifth on this matter, I will just will

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Speaker 2: I one hundred percent have seen long lines in the

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Speaker 2: thing you know, he's attacked by an alligator and loses

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Speaker 1: So I gave you the options if you're meeting your

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Speaker 2: I think not only would you be likely to be

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Speaker 1: see there are this little pole, little Friday pole. There

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Speaker 1: Crocodile came in with the worst way to think in

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Speaker 1: the animal kingdom at least of these options. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to throw hippopotamus on there, because they're actually incredibly dangerous,

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Speaker 1: and I just feel like no one, you know, going

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Speaker 1: by a hippo would be like getting eaten by a

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Speaker 1: panda bear, Like we still think of them as cute

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Speaker 1: even though they're actually quite dangerous. But it was fascinating

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Speaker 1: to read the analysis that people came up with Clay.

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Speaker 1: In the comments, people went deep on the like various

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, there must be a lot of

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Speaker 1: ems folks that are following me on Twitter because they're

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Speaker 1: talking about the difference in how but everyone was like, lion,

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Speaker 1: no big deal. Lions are apparently they're just like, Ah,

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Speaker 1: they grabbed you by the neck, You're out like a light,

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Speaker 1: no problem. I think they would end you quickly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they say end quickly. Shark, you're talking massive blood loss trauma.

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Speaker 1: That probably also pretty fast, all things considered. Although just

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Speaker 1: being in the water, which you also have with the crocodile,

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Speaker 1: very scary. Some of the folks that wait him with

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Speaker 1: the bear one. The bear one was actually way worse

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Speaker 1: than I thought it would be because apparently bears they

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Speaker 1: kind of maul slowly. So anyway, people went very deep

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Speaker 1: into the comments here. Crocodile was the winner of the

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Speaker 1: worst A bad way to go? What do you think

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Speaker 1: happened to this guy? Do you think he was just

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Speaker 1: My theory would be super drunk, super drunk, passed out

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Speaker 1: and then the allegant because I don't believe the alligator

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Speaker 1: was there, like coming out of the water. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: I think he probably passed out at the water's edge

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Speaker 1: where alligators are bush hunters. It's where they do it.

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Speaker 1: And and then you know it was, you know, it

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean that is I mean again

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Speaker 2: when he says, like I was standing by the water,

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Speaker 2: and I bet he started to have a little bit

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Speaker 2: and then he just went in the water.

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Speaker 1: He's like he did drink. I asked carry this question recently,

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Speaker 1: and as a as a transplanted New Yorker. It's just

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Speaker 1: I feel like people that live in these areas would

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Speaker 1: never think about this. So the the the habitat of

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Speaker 1: the American alligator goes up into it's obviously Florida's like

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Speaker 1: you know, Grand Central for alligators, right, and then you

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Speaker 1: go up and uh and you see it. Georgia plenty

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Speaker 1: of alligators. Parts of eastern Texas. There are alley of

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Speaker 1: southeastern Texas their alligators. But right around like the Carolinas,

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Speaker 1: it starts to stop, right like you said, the range

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Speaker 1: slows down. But I asked, this is a real question.

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Speaker 1: We probably have an there must be a zone where

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Speaker 1: you think, oh, I'll just go swimming in my lake

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Speaker 1: house because there's like there's no gators up here. But actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean I think like like maybe part

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Speaker 1: of South Carolina or part of North Carolina, like there

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Speaker 1: have to be places where you think you're in the

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Speaker 1: safe zone and you're gonna go splashing around in the pond,

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Speaker 1: but maybe you've got a gator that's you know, got

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Speaker 1: a fleece, got a vest on or something. It's a

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Speaker 1: great point.

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Speaker 2: And also Florida people can get pretty cocky because you know,

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Speaker 2: you'll be out on your boat, you'll be out jet skiing,

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Speaker 2: you'll be out. They're not as afraid of alligators as

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Speaker 2: I would say a lot of people elsewhere are. And

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Speaker 2: the other aspect of this is that that is such

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Speaker 2: a good point because there are places like Memphis, for instance,

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Speaker 2: has alleg I was gonna.

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Speaker 1: Say, I just checked yolks and Tennessee. You're you think

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Speaker 1: you're all safe in Tennessee and Clay's home state.

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Speaker 2: There are alligators in Tennessee, not many, there are now

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Speaker 2: some around Memphis. And if you're in North Alabama, I believe,

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Speaker 2: like around the Huntsville area where the Tennessee River, there's

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Speaker 2: there's certain places where there are a few alligators there.

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Speaker 2: It definitely seems unfair that you would, you know, go

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Speaker 2: jump in a lake in Memphis and suddenly you should

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Speaker 2: all from say from Allegay.

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Speaker 1: But then you know, that. I mean, there was a

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Speaker 1: there was one. I mean, it's a total, like the

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Speaker 1: odds of this are one in a million.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: There was a great white a great white shark attack,

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Speaker 1: a fatal one up off the islands of Maine. That

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Speaker 1: happened a few years ago. So there's sometimes things, crazy

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Speaker 1: things happen.

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Speaker 2: There's a great shark attack book about I think it

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Speaker 2: was like in the nineteen twenties, and it's part of

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Speaker 2: what inspired Jaws.

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Speaker 1: A great Matawan creek, I know, Oh, dude, could see

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Speaker 1: we're talking with Moto one Creek all the time. Three

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Speaker 1: attacks in a few days. They think it was a

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Speaker 1: bull shark nineteen eleven, maybe I think it was.

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Speaker 2: This was like way off the coast, right, somebody's seven

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Speaker 2: miles inland, seven miles inland. You just jump into a

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Speaker 2: freshwater creek and you get killed by a.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen sixteen off in the Jersey shore, there was a

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Speaker 1: brackish creek connecting to the ocean. It was nineteen sixteen.

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Speaker 2: That's a great book. What's the name of the book

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Speaker 2: that they wrote about this. They think it was one

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Speaker 2: shark that killed tons of people because at the time,

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Speaker 2: and it goes all into the.

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Speaker 1: History close to shore, the terrifying shark attacks of nineteen sixteen,

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Speaker 1: is that the one I read.

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Speaker 2: I may be the book I read, A fantastic one

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Speaker 2: about this particular shark attack where they think it was one.

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Speaker 1: There's one called I Survived the Shark Attacks. Well that's

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Speaker 1: for kids, Oh and I Survived books are actually my

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Speaker 1: boys really liked the I Survived Shark Attack books. But

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Speaker 1: if you want one to scare you, as we're coming

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Speaker 1: in now to the holiday season, to with Memorial Day

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Speaker 1: weekend and people typically going out to the beaches for

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Speaker 1: the first time, I'll look up during commercial break and

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Speaker 1: see if I can find the exact title of that book.

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Speaker 1: But it is really well done because it dives into

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Speaker 1: but for a long time, people didn't know whether sharks

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Speaker 1: were dangerous, right, Like they didn't have like a good

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Speaker 1: sense for because remember it wasn't that long ago. People

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Speaker 1: didn't used to go into the ocean as leisure, right Like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're just gonna go swim in the ocean, like that

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Speaker 1: wasn't something that was very popular in the seventeen hundreds

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Speaker 1: and the eighteen hundreds and everything else. It's only the

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Speaker 1: beach as leisure that has really kind of taken off

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Speaker 1: in the last hundred years in many ways. Yes, So

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Speaker 1: it's a fascinating kind of portrayal about the way that

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Speaker 1: Americans decide to spend their time and what the dangers

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Speaker 1: are associated with it.

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Speaker 2: So put it on the radar. I'll look it up.

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Speaker 2: I'll share it with you if you want a fun

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Speaker 2: for a while, Buck, I think it's true the most

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Speaker 2: influential movie ever made in terms of changing everybody's behavior

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Speaker 2: of you out there that will go into the water

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Speaker 2: now and not think about getting eaten by a shark,

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Speaker 2: even though the odds are virtually zero, And you might

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Speaker 1: But you know that guy who went to the pond

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Speaker 1: probably thought the odds were zero, too, Buddy, You never know.

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Speaker 1: your podcasts. Welcome back to Clay and Buck eight two

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Speaker 1: to eight eight two on those phone lines and you

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Speaker 1: know play. I'm look, I'm just gonna put this out there.

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Speaker 1: This is a story up in the Daily Mail right now.

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Speaker 1: Oh it is.

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Speaker 2: It is Close to Shore. Tell us, tell us what

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Speaker 2: the book? Yeah, I just I would love to give

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Speaker 2: book tips. I read this book. It was fantastic. The

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Speaker 2: book is called Close to Shore The Terrifying Shark Attacks

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Speaker 2: of nineteen sixteen. Michael Capuzo is the author. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how long the book has been out.

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Speaker 1: I read it.

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Speaker 2: It's really well done. It supposedly was the story that

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Speaker 2: provided the idea to Peter Benchley, who wrote the novel Jaws,

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Speaker 2: which was then obviously turned into the fabulously successful Steven

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Speaker 2: Spielberg movie, which actually buck began. I believe I'm correcting this.

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Speaker 2: I think Jaws was the beginning of the summer movie blockbuster.

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Speaker 2: And I think Jaws came out in like, what did

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Speaker 2: Jaws come out in nineteen seventy six?

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Speaker 1: That sounds I had to check. That sounds about right.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say the Mattawan Creek was if you

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Speaker 1: haven't seen it, it is very narrow at some points.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about a creek that is at some of

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Speaker 1: the attacks were six or seven miles from the ocean

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Speaker 1: and the creek. If you look at the photo, the

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Speaker 1: creek is not very wide. You would never believe a

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Speaker 1: shark kid in. It gets to be about eight to

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Speaker 1: ten feet in some places, which when you think of

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Speaker 1: a ten foot creek. The notion that you could be

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Speaker 1: attacked by a man and it killed I believe with

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Speaker 1: the three people, I think maybe attack three killed two,

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Speaker 1: but severe shark attacks in a short period of time.

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Speaker 1: They believe that it was a bull shark because of

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Speaker 1: the brackish nature. Is that what it's said in the book,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that's always what I've read. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a great question. Some people have said that, oh, but

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Speaker 1: maybe it was like a road great white. I believe

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Speaker 1: that most of the zoologists out there were what are

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Speaker 1: the people that are, you know, the water zoologists you

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Speaker 1: know I'm talking about, yeah, animal marine biologists, marine biologists

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Speaker 1: or zoologist who cares? Point is they think it's a

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Speaker 1: bull shark. Interesting Interesting about bull sharks. They're believed to

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Speaker 1: have the highest testosterone levels of any animal in the world,

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Speaker 1: and they can go into fresh as well as salt water,

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Speaker 1: so they're taking a lot of Chalcose bull sharks. This

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Speaker 1: was a great white they think all on they think

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Speaker 1: it was a great white. Yeah, that was I thought

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Speaker 1: that creek I had always had, I had read in

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Speaker 1: other shark attack books. They believe it was a bull

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Speaker 1: You you would lead, you would love. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think everybody out there, if you like this, show close

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Speaker 1: to Shore again The Terrifying Shark Attacks of twenty nineteen sixteen.

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Speaker 1: It's a fabulous book.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you're gonna it's it's not necessarily the one

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Speaker 2: you want to read while you're sitting at the beach

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Speaker 2: because interesting.

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Speaker 1: So they say they caught a seven foot, two hundred

651
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Speaker 1: and thirty pound bull shark at the mouth of Mattawan,

652
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Speaker 1: But there are some people who say that it was

653
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Speaker 1: actually a white shark. But because of the nature anyway,

654
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Speaker 1: do we have a do we have a marine biologist

655
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Speaker 1: in the audience who could weigh in on this one.

656
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Speaker 2: I bet a lot of other people have read this

657
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: book because it was a bestseller back in the day

658
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: when it came out. And again we're probably gonna make

659
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: this author a ton of money because I bet he

660
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: hasn't had an endorsement like this.

661
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: It's a great beach reading.

662
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: But then all of a sudden you're like, yeah, yeah,

663
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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily it's the best one, but yeah. July

664
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: nineteen sixteen alone, great White left its usual deep ocean habitat,

665
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: headed along the New Jersey shoreline and in Beech Haveaven

666
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: in Spring Lake. And this was, by the way, eleven

667
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: miles inland. The most ferocious and unpredictable of predators began

668
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: a deadly rampage, the first shark attacks on swimmers in

669
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Speaker 2: US history. Because again it's really kind of fascinating. They

670
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: never believed up to that point necessarily that sharks were

671
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: this dangerous to humans. And so anyway, you will love it.

672
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: It's all about the history of sharks and swimming and

673
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: bathing and everything else associated with the beach lifestyle. Because

674
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 2: this was basically as the beach lifestyle began common to exist.

675
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: You know, the idea that you'd put on a bathing

676
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: suit and go swim in the ocean for fun was

677
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: not something that in the eighteen hundreds necessarily existed at all.

678
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Speaker 1: It's a very good point. Also, I wonder I've seen

679
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Speaker 1: stuff about how even some people who were especially if

680
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: you were impressed into naval service and you're forced to

681
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: in the age of the great sailing ships, like not

682
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: everybody knew how to swim. Oh imagine imagine being out

683
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: there on a ship in the middle of the ocean.

684
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: It's like, if this thing, even if you were withinside

685
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: a shore, this thing goes down, I'm in rough shape.

686
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: One of the things that was so great we were

687
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: talking earlier about. It's obviously Memorial Day, another great book

688
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: about the soldiers who decided to jump into behind enemy

689
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: lines on the Nazis. Many of the guys in the

690
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 2: hundred and for Stairborne Buck who ended up jumping out

691
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: and fighting Nazis the first time they ever went up

692
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Speaker 2: in an airplane.

693
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: They jumped out of it.

694
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is a That is a detail

695
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 2: for everybody out there who's ever been in an airplane.

696
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 2: How badass were these kids? These were you know, farm guys.

697
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: They'd hardly ever been anywhere, they'd never been in an airplane.

698
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: Can you imagine the first time you got in an

699
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Speaker 2: airplane jumping out with a parachute.

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Speaker 1: I still have I've actually never have you ever done.

701
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm terrified to skydive in the first place. They used

702
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: to want to like height Langley used to as part

703
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: of our basic training and CIA there was some skydiving

704
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: I think way back in the day, but then the

705
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: nerds took over and we're like, I had a lot

706
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: of spraying ankles, so you know.

707
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: But can you imagine the first time you ever got

708
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 2: in an airplane? If you can remember out there listening

709
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: to us right now, the first time you got an

710
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: air airplane? How awe inspiring, how terrifying, how amazing it

711
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: is to be up above the clouds. The first time

712
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: you ever went up in an airplane, you jumped out

713
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 2: of it. This is a different level of bravery from

714
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: those guys to the very first time. And then of

715
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: course you jump out of an airplane while getting shot

716
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: at by Nazis and fight them. The whole story of

717
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: these guys and the mobilization of the country surround World War.

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Speaker 1: Are you enough of it? Are you? A?

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Speaker 2: You have to pick one Band of Brothers or the Pacific.

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Speaker 2: I like Band of Brothers and and and the books around.

721
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just most people focus on Europe,

722
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: but I wish I knew more about it.

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Speaker 1: Think for both A plus, I probably go the Pacific

724
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Speaker 1: if I have to choose between the two, but both excellent.

725
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: And you've got a great book recommendation. Close to shor

726
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: it's called close to Shore. Get that book. And the

727
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: Band of Brothers not a bad book either. Get heard

728
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: of that one. And also with the Old Breed if

729
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: you're looking for the Pacific Theater