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Speaker 1: He is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williams

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Speaker 1: show on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Works, The Driving by Dale Lotwi. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and we are here in Orlando. We are at

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Speaker 2: the Rich Carlton where the league meetings will take places

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Speaker 2: these next few days.

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Speaker 3: Here, Matt, and uh, thanks for picking up around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be a busy couple of days as well,

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Speaker 2: and we'll have some hopefully some guests on here over

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Speaker 2: the next few days. We'll be broadcasting here today, of course,

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Speaker 2: and then Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. The big thing that's going

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Speaker 2: to happen here matter, right, are some of the rule

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Speaker 2: changes that are going to be voted on that the

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Speaker 2: league is looking at. Proposals that they're looking at here,

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Speaker 2: and one of them actually proposed by the Steelers. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that. Okay, yeah, that we'll doing the

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Speaker 2: big end of that week. We could call this when

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson rule, because oh, I don't think we

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Speaker 2: will do that. So the Steelers are one of I

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Speaker 2: believe it's like six teams that have proposed moving the

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Speaker 2: date of the Traderade deadline, the trade deadline back. The

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Speaker 2: Steelers have proposed one week. There's like five or five

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Speaker 2: other teams have proposed moving it back two weeks.

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Speaker 3: I remember last year on Halloween, you know, so they

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Speaker 3: want to go to nine or maybe to ten.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers have proposed nine, which will get you halfway

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Speaker 2: through the season or over halfway over the halfway point.

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Speaker 2: The other teams have proposed moving it to ten week ten.

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Speaker 3: So the only reason I've heard not to do it is, well,

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Speaker 3: we've never done that before, or it's been like this

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Speaker 3: in the past. Like I don't know the other leagues

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Speaker 3: as well, but the other three major sports have it

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Speaker 3: well after the fifty of the they played more games,

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Speaker 3: so they do. But I mean it's still lowest calm denominator.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like by Halloween, half the teams don't know

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Speaker 3: if they're in and or out of it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think they should push it back far, push it

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Speaker 3: back a month. Well you want it.

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Speaker 2: You don't think there should be a traight deadline, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like if two teams agree on a deal,

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Speaker 3: no one's tanking it, you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know I mean I think the later the better,

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Speaker 3: almost or make it Thanksgiving at least, I mean, because

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Speaker 3: I think there'll be more action. I mean, when Halloween

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Speaker 3: ruled around last year, half the teams were like, we're

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Speaker 3: one game over, we're one game under, we're at five hundred.

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Speaker 3: Should we go all in to try to win it

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Speaker 3: this year? Should we sell our dudes? Here's what I

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Speaker 3: don't know yet. Here's what the NFL does.

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Speaker 2: Then the injury hits too, the NFL does not want

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Speaker 2: to happen, is what you're kind of talking about.

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Speaker 3: There where a team.

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Speaker 2: Tanks right the last month of the season and nobody

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Speaker 2: a fire sale. Yeah, and nobody goes to the games,

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Speaker 2: nobody watches them on TV, and it's a bad product.

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Speaker 3: That's what they do. I know, that's the that is

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Speaker 3: worth bringing up. I mean, that's the rule, or that's

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Speaker 3: the reasoning against it is maybe Washington or Carolina they

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Speaker 3: that would also drum up even more interest for this

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Speaker 2: That's great because I mean this doesn't fill the stadiums

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Speaker 2: when they you know, the final month of the season,

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Speaker 2: when they're understood where it doesn't you know, but the

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Speaker 2: tickets are price sold. The TV product is the big thing.

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Speaker 2: The TV product would be bad, yeah, right, I mean

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Speaker 3: I mean honestly, there's a lot of games in Week

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Speaker 3: eighteen that are bad that there's no way around it. Well,

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Speaker 3: that's the league doesn't want. They they don't want more

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Speaker 2: With the way it was last year, I mean the

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Speaker 3: Right, No, they've done a great job of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I do think it'll get moved. When you have one, you.

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Speaker 2: Have that many teams proposing this, it's probably going to

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Speaker 2: get changed. No, that makes sense. I didn't realize the

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Speaker 2: Steelers were the first to propose it, though they were

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Speaker 3: This convoluted kickoff thing is crazy. I'm not saying it

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So the Competition Committee wants to allow

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Speaker 2: Well, they're saying that there's also a file by the

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Speaker 3: This that one took me a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: But I think what they're saying is that if the offense,

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Speaker 3: It should be a change of possession. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 2: Then also by the Competition Committee, Uh, this one's.

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Speaker 2: Uh, to include the Competition Committee to include a ruling

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Speaker 3: You're allowed to then challenge that was.

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Speaker 2: He at you know, because you've seen the one where

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Speaker 3: be you know, you'd be able to review that.

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Speaker 2: I think there's more examples of that now than Dan

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Speaker 2: This is one I think the fans will really like

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Speaker 2: because you hear this one screamed about a lot. This

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Speaker 2: the game clock expired before the snap.

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Speaker 2: I wish you could also review if the tackles left early.

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Speaker 2: The big one is to eliminate a potentially dangerous tackling technique,

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Speaker 2: which would be the hip drop tackle.

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Speaker 2: that was a hip drop tackle.

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Speaker 3: So I know, a lot of people are like, well,

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Speaker 2: But to me, the playing field is level for everyone,

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Speaker 2: and it is a dangerous play from what I understand.

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Speaker 2: rugby experts sitting here, they would be like, I can't

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Speaker 2: believe you didn't disallow this twenty years ago, you know, like,

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Speaker 3: Pretty sure that they have disallowed this long ago. You're

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Speaker 3: not allowed to do this in the rugby world because

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Speaker 3: it's dangerous. I mean, it's like a horse callar situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're coming down on the back, that's where I mean.

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Speaker 2: You see so many injuries happen with that. Guys get

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Speaker 3: Underneath the bodies. And yes, and I feel for linebackers

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Speaker 3: and defensive backs, but the days of Jack Tatum taking

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Speaker 3: are closed lines of Linn Swan and all those type

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Speaker 3: of things, and there would be an adjustment, But the

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Speaker 3: defenders adjust. I mean, there'd be a lot of penalties

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Speaker 3: in the meantime, but they adjust. Yeah, it takes five

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Speaker 3: years or whatever. Yeah, so that doesn't bother me.

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Speaker 3: It's like a snap count thing. But when my player

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Speaker 2: What about a windy days? A windy days, I got

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Speaker 3: The tea guy? Mean, you have to deal with that

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Speaker 3: Do you know fair catches still exist? I would assume so.

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Speaker 2: Well, the interesting thing is something more rep Does it

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Speaker 2: I think you have to land it between twenty and ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: There are much better now than they were thirty years ago.

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Speaker 3: we got to you know, even to teach it another

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Speaker 3: Do you want to kick you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so if this rule goes through, I want

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Speaker 3: But that's that's what they're looking at doing. Here.

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Speaker 2: We gotta get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale LOLLI You are listening to the Drive

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Speaker 2: NFL Spring Meetings here at the Rich Carlton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Beautiful, nice joint.

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Speaker 2: Huh absolutely, yeah, absolutely, would highly recommend it if you can.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, stop buck can get in here. Anyways, let's get

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lelly here with Matt Williamson at the NFL

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Speaker 2: Spring Meetings and we're please be joined now by our

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Speaker 2: we've we've done this before a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Rob.

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Speaker 2: We've got Rob King here with us, he's here with

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Speaker 2: us down in beautiful Orlando.

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Speaker 4: Are we going to do the Keys to the Owners meetings?

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Speaker 3: Actually?

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Speaker 2: What are we gonna do here? Rob is keys to

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Speaker 2: the offseason? When what's happened? Are we for the Steelers

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Speaker 2: and they've been a little busy.

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Speaker 4: It's hard for me not to be really bullish on

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Speaker 4: right that that had been lacking. They've been very inconsistent.

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Speaker 4: And now you had a guy with Russell Wilson's resume, who,

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Speaker 4: a decent quarterback. They're not asking him to you know,

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Speaker 4: then fields, I think guys will be you know, more

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Speaker 4: than your average you know, second quarterback. Yeah, you can

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Speaker 4: kick the tires on him, but you can also get

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Speaker 4: So I just think there's a lot of interesting things

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I look at it like a better

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Speaker 3: it ten times in a row. I few.

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Speaker 2: Well, so it's kind of like the Ravens did with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Field's even more accomplished and experience than that.

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Speaker 2: I'm preparing for it because they can spring it out

438
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 2: on it. They could bring it out on you at

439
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,920
Speaker 2: any at any minute. Is gonna get a lot of

440
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 2: preseason snaps. Yeah, more so than Wilson.

441
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 4: And he's what I mean, outside of Lamar Jackson top

442
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,440
Speaker 4: one or two running quarterbacks.

443
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just because he's so physical, what he

444
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 2: breaks tackles.

445
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 4: More than Lamar.

446
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,800
Speaker 3: You're saying more than Lamar. I think he might even

447
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,399
Speaker 3: win a foot race with Lamar. I don't think he

448
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 3: wins a quickness battle with Lamar, a stop start battle

449
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 3: with Lamar. But Lamar's become a little bit more of

450
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,200
Speaker 3: a pocket passer. And he's getting up in age too.

451
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 3: I mean, Yea had a little bit of weight. You

452
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,160
Speaker 3: know where Fields is a rocket ship.

453
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a weapon. And you know, I think when

454
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,159
Speaker 4: you look at the team offensively, you know, obviously they

455
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,199
Speaker 4: have two big holes to fill and they took care of.

456
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker 4: I think a lot of things defensive we would bring

457
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 4: in Arthur Smith and you've got you know, you look

458
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 4: at the personnel and we you know, we wring our

459
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 4: hands during camp, and how are they gonna get Connor

460
00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 4: Hayward onto the field? How are they going to get Well,

461
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 4: they're not. That's really basically is what winds up happening.

462
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 4: But I think that they're He's a real fit for

463
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 4: their personnel. That's what it seems like to me. You know, hey,

464
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 4: let's get a Mike Shanahan disclip. Well, that would be exciting.

465
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 4: But now you start to think about, okay, well we

466
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 4: have to revamp maybe the way we do things, and

467
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 4: what kind of offensive lineman does you want to block

468
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,360
Speaker 4: his schemes? And do we have the right personnels. It's

469
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 4: going to be now another two or three years to

470
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,879
Speaker 4: put together the guys we want. Personnel wise, maybe it

471
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 4: wouldn't be quite that of an exaggerated process. But this

472
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 4: guy comes in, who I think, Arthur Smith, really fits

473
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 4: what you already have. And I think that's a Again,

474
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 4: I think that's a bonus.

475
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 2: See, I think it's almost as exciting, not exciting, but

476
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 2: as interesting to talk about the new guys, and there's

477
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 2: more to come on offense, but also the ones he

478
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 2: shipped out, you know, like Deontay Johnson's contract was expiring.

479
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 3: He's not much of a blocker. They're also not going

480
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 3: to play as much eleven personnel as they did in

481
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 3: the past. I mean Atlanta was the bottom the league,

482
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 3: so maybe receivers not as much of a priority of

483
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 3: that too.

484
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 2: Is though, because somebody tweeted this to me on social X,

485
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 2: I should say X say they exed me.

486
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 4: That's a good point.

487
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 3: Exed me.

488
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 2: Anyways, as they just said, Arthur Smith is they've never had.

489
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: The Steelers really need a number two receiver because Arthur

490
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 2: Smith's never really used one. I'm like, if you look

491
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 2: back at his his years in Tennessee when they had

492
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 2: Corey Davis and A J.

493
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 3: Brown, Corey Davis and a J. Brown's numbers weren't that

494
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 3: much different in terms of catches. Obviously A J.

495
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 2: Brown was the better player and got and got more yards,

496
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 2: you know for catches.

497
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 3: I think the Steelers eleven person now will definitely shrink. Yeah,

498
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 3: but they saw last in the league. They won't be

499
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 3: in the top, but they're not going to be the last.

500
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 2: I do think Smith's done a good job in Atlanta

501
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 2: and back to Tennessee with these are your ingredients filled

502
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 2: from there? Painting the barn red with red paint you

503
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, you know.

504
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 3: Where you go.

505
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 4: That's a good point, and yeah it's a hole. I mean,

506
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 4: we can't fool ourselves into the receivers, you know when

507
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: you uh, yeah, yeah, I think that's probably right. You'd

508
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 4: like to you certainly, maybe maybe trade for one or

509
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 4: sign one and then and then drafted or maybe yeah,

510
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 4: maybe a guy you could bring along, you know, going

511
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 4: back and doing some research on the on the beginning

512
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 4: of the Chuck Nole years and what he did. You know,

513
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 4: he got rid of Roy Jefferson, who is their best receiver,

514
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 4: because he just, you know, may whether it's personality or

515
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 4: scheme wise, he just didn't fit. And I'm not sure

516
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 4: whether the Steelers will tell us, hey, you know, Deontay Johnson,

517
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 4: we want somebody with a better blocking profile, and therefore

518
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 4: it doesn't quite fit what we want. So he makes him.

519
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 4: It makes him a little more expendable than you think

520
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 4: when you look at that trade and you're like, well,

521
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 4: you know, could they have gotten more done more? Well,

522
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 4: they just wanted to, you know, they they know they've

523
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 4: got to move on from that position because he doesn't

524
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:36,719
Speaker 4: fit in with what they do.

525
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 3: Now.

526
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 4: I don't know whether I don't know whether that was

527
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,479
Speaker 4: the determining factor. But I'd be a little surprised if

528
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 4: it wasn't maybe at least involved in their thought process. Hey,

529
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 4: we want somebody who's going to be more physical. I mean,

530
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 4: look at you know, you watch the forty nine ers

531
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 4: play and you watch Samuel and Ayuky those guys are Yeah,

532
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 4: they get and of course they they receive as well.

533
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 3: The Falcons guy's blocked to right, you know a lot

534
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 3: in their big body guys and right. Yeah.

535
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: So uh, you know, I think when you look at

536
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: things defensively, they've gotten younger, which they needed to do

537
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 2: on the defenser side.

538
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that had to be a priority.

539
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: We talked about it when when when the signing of

540
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: Patrick Queen, we didn't think that was going to be possible.

541
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 2: Didn't even consider that. Yep, Like I didn't think they

542
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 2: would be in that market. But the price that the

543
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 2: it wasn't what I thought it was going to be either.

544
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 2: And so you get a guy, you know, at a

545
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: relatively team friendly deal for for what those guys are

546
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 2: going for in the open market, who's still twenty five

547
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 2: and in a sending player you.

548
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 4: Know, and you now you have playmakers really at every

549
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 4: level of your defense. You know, you've got we know

550
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 4: about you know, Benton is account of Benton is a

551
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,479
Speaker 4: developing guy. Cam Heyward I think is gonna you know,

552
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 4: maybe he's got one, you know, bounce back season, a

553
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 4: little health form. But you know, the two guys in

554
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 4: the outside are obviously dynamic. You have micka Fitzpatrick and

555
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: Joey Porter Jr. On the back end. You know, Queen

556
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: really you know, fills that hole in the middle. He'll

557
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 4: have uh whoever lines up next to him. I think

558
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 4: he's gonna have you know, that trickle down sort of

559
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 4: salubrious effect that great players have on other players next

560
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 4: to the Sorry sorry about that, but they have that

561
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 4: sort of effect on players. You know, they make the

562
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 4: player next to them better. And you know, the really

563
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 4: interesting question, and I'm going to have the opportunity to

564
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 4: interview Omar Khn I think it's tomorrow. That I that

565
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 4: I'd love to know is how do you kind of

566
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 4: get how do you bore down to the value of

567
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 4: that player and take aside all the other things around it,

568
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 4: because let's face it, you know Patrick Queen was scuffling

569
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 4: a little bit. Rokwan Smith came in and then queen ascended.

570
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 4: So how much of that is the arrival of Rokwan Smith.

571
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 4: Matt's done great work on inside linebackers and how long

572
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 4: it takes them to develop and play. So was it

573
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 4: just was he at that natural progression point already? So

574
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 4: how do we, yeah, how do you take aside out

575
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 4: all the outside factors. Ravens have a very good defense.

576
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: How do you take aside all those outside factors and

577
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 4: determine this is going to be the guy? I mean,

578
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 4: you know, if you know, you can always raise a

579
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 4: red flag if you want to. But to me, I

580
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 4: think it's a great signing.

581
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: You know, if you if you look at it.

582
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: Rokwan Smith, the aforementioned Rokwan Smith, really his first three

583
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: years in the league were.

584
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 3: Kind of stumbled and yeah, and then live up to

585
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: top ten.

586
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: Year four he finally started to get it. And then

587
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: the year five is when he gets traded to the

588
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: you know, to the Ravens. You could point to that

589
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: almost not every player, not every inside linebacker across the league,

590
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of them. You can look at

591
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: that it takes them three or four years because so

592
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: much is thrown at them.

593
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 3: It's a really hard position. Yeah, cerebrally.

594
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 2: Now, I mean like Shanahan manipulates you with all this

595
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: motion and stuff you never saw in the Big twelve.

596
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: And it just be the games faster.

597
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: You're taking on better guards, You're trying to run with

598
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: tight ends and running backs that are legit receivers. Drafting

599
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: running the linebackers high is bad business, but signing them

600
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: is not.

601
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a great summation. That's a great space.

602
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: And he also helps them. You you talking about younger,

603
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 4: they need to get younger. They need to get as

604
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: you know, and you look at I've always liked Deshaun Elliott.

605
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 4: I've always thought he was just a good, solid football player.

606
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 4: I don't know a ton about Dante Jackson other than

607
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 4: the fact that he can fly, and you know, you

608
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 4: see a guy like that and you think maybe slot guy.

609
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 4: But I think he's been he's been more of an

610
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 4: outside pretty much. Care So, I mean, there's you know,

611
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 4: there's still work to be done, but certainly a lot

612
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 4: less on defense to me, and we'll see when Hulkom

613
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: comes back. But a Landon Roberts, I thought, you know,

614
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 4: you talk about a surprise in a season in which

615
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 4: you know you're sifting through all those injuries. An inside linebacker,

616
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 4: I thought a Landon Roberts showed up a lot better.

617
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 4: You know, it's a two down guy. Well, okay, maybe ideally,

618
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 4: but I thought he showed up pretty well in a

619
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 4: lot of three down scenarios for him. So you know,

620
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 4: somebody's misfortune was his gain. And and if you get

621
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 4: hold him back, I think you feel pretty good.

622
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: Man.

623
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: I mean herbig to back up at the outside linebacker position.

624
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 4: You bring Adams back, and you have that depth along

625
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 4: the defensive line, and as sending player in Benton, you know,

626
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: it's hard for me not to be bullish on what

627
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 4: they've done. Did they have to grab corner?

628
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: Sure?

629
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: Could they do that early in the draft. You know,

630
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 4: if the guy's there, maybe you do.

631
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 3: So you mentioned team speed, and I think that's an

632
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: underreported thing that's happened this offense or this this offseason.

633
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: Is the back seven to me, even on their best

634
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: day when everybody was healthy, let alone the end of

635
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: the year when they're on backup safeties and linebackers and

636
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: pulling dudes off the street. But I mean, Queen's a

637
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 3: four to four guy. Jackson's a four to nine guy right.

638
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: But with all respect to Wallace and Peterson and the

639
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 3: slot situation and the linebackers they're back seven.

640
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 2: Was amongst the slowest in the league. Yes, and they've

641
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: clearly addressed that. And I don't think people are catching

642
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: onto that enough.

643
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Elliott's not a burner, but he runs well enough.

644
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 4: He runs better than I think what they have back there,

645
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 4: especially for in the box guy right, because we don't

646
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 4: make it run that right, you know, and I totally agree.

647
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 4: I thought the team speed was something that needed to

648
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 4: be addressed. And you know, one of the great things

649
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 4: that I think this years have done, going back to

650
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 4: Kevin Colbert and you know, continuing now with Omar Khan,

651
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 4: is go into the draft with at least the plausibility

652
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 4: that several positions are open for you to draft. I mean,

653
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: teams always say we're going to take the best player available. Well,

654
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 4: you know you're not. You're going to take the best

655
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 4: receiver available or the best quarterback available if you need that.

656
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: Three positions, right, it's the best player available at a

657
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: position of need.

658
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 4: Yes, at a position of need. But I think what

659
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 4: the Steelers do is they shrink. They at least give

660
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 4: you the plausibility that hey, we could put we could plug.

661
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 4: We can go into camp and say, okay, Herbig and Anderson,

662
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 4: you guys are battling it out for the center or whatever.

663
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 4: You know.

664
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: I always say that the day before the draft, if

665
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: the Steelers had to line up and play a game, right,

666
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: they would they would be able to do so with

667
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: NFL could field a team, So they could field a

668
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: team of twenty two with that had NFL capable players

669
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: at every position, you might be able to overdraft that.

670
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: But they have that, they have the capable guys, right.

671
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: But I would say, as we stand at the owners meeting,

672
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: I bet there's people watching them saying, I don't see

673
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: a second receiver. I'm not sure those are legitimate center options, right,

674
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: you know, a real for sure. So I agree with

675
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: all that, and I think it's definitely a Colbert thing.

676
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 3: We're not done yet. They're receiver is going to draw.

677
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: There's another month ago here before we get to the.

678
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: Draft draft, right. I think that that would be that

679
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: would be the big one to to be able to

680
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: take that off the board and say, Okay, we don't

681
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: really need a receiver. We certainly we certainly don't need

682
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 4: one high. But again, you know, uh, let's say you

683
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: know you're going to draft and powers Johnson right the

684
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 4: center that you know, maybe you're you're eyeing him, but

685
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: if somebody takes him, you'll like a tackle, Okay, hey,

686
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 4: well you never you never take it. You never mind

687
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 4: taking a tackle, or hey, there's a receiver that's really undervalued.

688
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 4: I don't know if you'd go there in the first round,

689
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: but maybe there's one defensive lineman You're like, maybe there's

690
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: a corner at that position. So I just think that

691
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: they've kept themselves open for to be able to as

692
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 4: close as you can take the best player available, because

693
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 4: you'll have maybe five different positions you could I think

694
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: extensively choose from.

695
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the way it looks right now, they have

696
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: five pretty high substantial picks and I see like four

697
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: needs there, so that gives you some flexibility as well.

698
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: So we mentioned Omark and he obviously has a strong

699
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: salary cap background.

700
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: I mean he's that's where his bread was buttered originally,

701
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: and you can see it in all his moves since

702
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: he's been in charge. So it's the value to me

703
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: has been terrific. Like we talked about before, I'm not

704
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: interested in Patrick Queen. He's to make eighteen million a year.

705
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: Well at twelve or thirteen, I'm really interested. I'm not

706
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: interested in justin fields for a second round pick, but

707
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: for a future six or.

708
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: Fourth sign me up, that's wonderful. But I'm just playing

709
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: Devil's advocate here. If you buy a lot of nickel

710
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: players for three cents, that's tremendous, But you'd still need

711
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: some dollar guys too, right, you know what I mean,

712
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: Like they all somebody needs to hit out of the group,

713
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: and I'm confident that they will. They can get your

714
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: dollar guys. That's where those are the guys you draft.

715
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: Since your next years.

716
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: First that's Benton, you know, right, yeah, right, and then

717
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: eventually you could give a quarterback fifty million if you.

718
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: Have to or whatever.

719
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: Right, Well, when you think back about you know, the

720
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: guys the Steelers have gotten over the years, and they're

721
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: draft and developed team obviously, but the guys that they

722
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 4: the valuable guys, whether it's you know, Key Moo von

723
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: Ohoff and you know, James Ferrier obviously wound up being

724
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: a great grab, Ryan Clark, some of these guys that

725
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: they've taken over those years, over the years. I think

726
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: like a Deshaun Elliott kind of fits that mold for me. Like,

727
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a good, solid player. Queen,

728
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 4: is that's a different that's different than what we've seen

729
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: them do traditional.

730
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you're right, Yeah, that could be a

731
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: home run.

732
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's a that's a dollar player that

733
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 4: you got for ninety two cents, right exactly.

734
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's the kind of risk I like.

735
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: And that's been a position that that that inside linebacker

736
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: position that they've just for whatever reason, they've tried to

737
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: draft them. They've tried to go for the nickel players

738
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: to make it work. You know, now they're finally you know,

739
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: they've they finally spent the money on a guy, right

740
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: who is in the sending player that uh I'm not

741
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: going to say he's Ryan Cheesier, but he's Ryan Chezier,

742
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: Like he's.

743
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: In the same neighborhood. Yeah, you know, right, trending that

744
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: direction at least.

745
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he's really young, and I think

746
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: if you get holcome back and he's and he's healthy

747
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: and overcomes the that severe injury and comes back to

748
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 4: being I mean I thought he was really impressive, especially

749
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 4: you know just before he got hurt. I mean he

750
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: started out okay and then he oh man was he

751
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 4: he looked good and he can run and Queen can run.

752
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: You know, you talk about the speed in the back seven.

753
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 4: Both those guys will will be able to add to that. Again,

754
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: it's you know, uh, I'm just bullish on what they've done.

755
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 4: I think right now, you know, projecting out a little

756
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: bit on okay, I think they'll go get another receiver.

757
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: They do have a little bit of a salary cap room.

758
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: You know, they've got good high draft choices. I just

759
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: think they're a much better they're They're going to we're

760
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 4: going to finish the draft. We're going to be you know,

761
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: heading into that rookie mini camp in the second week

762
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: end of May, and we're gonna say this is a

763
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: this is a better team, a substantially better team than

764
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 4: the one that walked off the field after a first

765
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: round playoff lost in Buffalo. I really believe that. But

766
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: to you know, we'll see. I mean, they still have

767
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: to they still have to finish things off. But I

768
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 4: think it's a great, great start built.

769
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 3: They built a base they have. Yeah, I'm gonna go

770
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: back to the quarterback position real quick, because I'm not

771
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: picking on Kenny Pickett, but he his thirteen career touchdown passes.

772
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: I mean, Russell Wilson doubled that, even not playing the

773
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: last two games of the season last year, on what

774
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: people thought was not a great year in Debver, he'd

775
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: double that, you know. I mean, you're gonna get so

776
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: many more big plays from the quarterback position, but you're

777
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: gonna get a lot more negatives too. You're gonna get sacks,

778
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna get interceptions. I mean, Kenny valued the football

779
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 3: really well. You know Rudolph did for his stretch. I

780
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 3: mean that was obviously emphasized here. So I'm really excited

781
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: about wholesale changes in the quarterback room.

782
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: I think it's better. I think they have to get

783
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: big plays out of that position, but there's gonna be

784
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: negatives too. I mean, it's not gonna be all rosy.

785
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that the big the big hidden numbers

786
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: there for me are the sacks taking, you know, the

787
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 4: fumbles with right, I mean, it's so easy to look

788
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 4: at a guy's quarterback and you know, it's funny. Do

789
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 4: they do they include fumbles in a quarterback rating?

790
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: They do not. They do not.

791
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 4: Right, So so now you're looking at okay, hey I

792
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 4: threw twenty six touchdowns or whatever, and he had eight

793
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: interceptions out great ratio. Well, let's start thinking one of

794
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 4: the things to put those fumbles in, get those those sacks.

795
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: They do a quarterback index every every week on NFL

796
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: dot Com, and as they they they ranked the quarterbacks.

797
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: Whoever does it? I think it's Adam rank last year.

798
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: Whoever did it last year, I can't remember. And one

799
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 2: of the things they put in there is their touchdown passes,

800
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 2: passer rating, interceptions, all that stuff.

801
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: But they also include the fumbles.

802
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: And I always make a note to mention that, like

803
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: when you're talking about the quarterback, sacks and fumbles matter.

804
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 4: They absolutely do.

805
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: I meither as a runner downfield or in the pocket,

806
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: and I protect.

807
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: Those are negative plays that that you know, they I

808
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: expect more negative plays with the quarterback position, right. I

809
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: hope the big plays greatly over every balances out to

810
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: the positive.

811
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 4: Right, you know, it's it's it's interesting to me to

812
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 4: try to you know, we all want to get at

813
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 4: the truth, and that's what the statisticians and that you know,

814
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 4: the saber metrics starting in baseball and moving on to

815
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: all the different sports of corsey ratings and hockey and

816
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: all these different things. But it's really really difficult to me.

817
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: Football is the ultimate team game. I mean I tell

818
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: this people all the time. I was working in Saint

819
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 4: Louis when the when the Rams traded Bettest to Pittsburgh

820
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 4: because they thought he was washed up all that wear

821
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: and Terry had in college. And you know, I mean

822
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 4: he's you know, he's just taking so many hits. Well

823
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 4: you know that he's trotting into Canton, you know, So

824
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 4: it really and I remember there was a there was

825
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 4: a press conference, and you know, the coach, Rich Brooks said, Hey,

826
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: I told Jerome, you know, if there's there's not a

827
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: hole there, I just want you to slam it up

828
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 4: in there. And then Jerome came. He was an ext

829
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 4: guy at the micro when he and somebody asked him,

830
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 4: he goes, what does that mean? You know, I'm supposed

831
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 4: to run into the back of my offensive linement? I mean,

832
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: what is what does slam it up in there?

833
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: Meet?

834
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 4: What does that? What does that even mean? So you

835
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 4: have to have alignment open holes, you have to have

836
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 4: But in the quarterback position. You know, what are you

837
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 4: being asked to do?

838
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 3: What?

839
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 4: What is you know? Are you is your offensive line good? Did?

840
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: Did the rookie right guard? Uh collapse in the nose

841
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: tackle and missed the you know, Patrick Queen coming in

842
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 4: the blitz and now you're there's nothing you can do

843
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: about that. So it's really really hard to parse that up.

844
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: But I think there's enough in the career of Russell

845
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: Wilson where you'd want you can look at it and say, hey,

846
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 4: those sack totals they need to come down.

847
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 3: They're real.

848
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: It's been a yearly year after year after years.

849
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 4: And to me, those fumbles are almost always related to that, right, Like,

850
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: that's when you know you're getting hit as a quarterback,

851
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 4: and that's when the ball's coming out.

852
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: Because he's had huge hands. I mean, if you look

853
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: at his hands.

854
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: I thought we were done with it. We were talking

855
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 4: hands size.

856
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 2: I'm I'm watching him at his press conference last week

857
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: and he's talking and I'm like, he looks like he

858
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: has two Catcher's mits on his on the on the

859
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: end of his arms, Like it's it's crazy.

860
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to go measure up. Did you measure

861
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: up when you heard the.

862
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget what my number was, like, I came

863
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: in at six two seven and on the hip chart,

864
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: but I think I was just over nine in chance.

865
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I had plenty big quarterback. I had plenty

866
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 4: big enough. Yeah that I would That was that was

867
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 4: my problem. Was throwing into the wrong color jerseys. That

868
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: was my problem.

869
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: So you're color blinds was it wasn't fumbling, it was, yeah,

870
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: it was colorblind.

871
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 3: That was my neverst I've never heard that about a

872
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: quarterbacks there, color blind.

873
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 4: I didn't care who caught it. I just wanted somebody

874
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 4: to catch it.

875
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 3: I just wanted to the Well, we gotta get go

876
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: in here. We'll let you go.

877
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,040
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878
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,200
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879
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: Want to be reunited with you guys. Absolutely, we'll do

880
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,239
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881
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,719
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882
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,520
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Speaker 3: Yep, we got some draft picks on the way. I

898
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: got some draft picks on the way.

899
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: I saw Joey Porter Junior Jersey in the airport yesterday. No, really,

900
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen too many of those yet. I saw

901
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: Porter and I'm.

902
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: Like, is that is that? Is that? No, that's Joey

903
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: Porter Jr. So more of those we be popping up. Absolutely.

904
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: Speaking of which, so Matt Miller.

905
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: Matt has dropped his UH after some of the pro

906
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: days on ESPN has dropped some of his an updated

907
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: Top fifty prospect ranking, and he does his a little

908
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: bit differently because he does comps pro comps with these guys.

909
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and comps are tricky, Like I'm terrible at them,

910
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, I get a real kick

911
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: out of people like, you know, I heard this one

912
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: the other day. He's like, he's a faster Larry Fitzgerald.

913
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: He's a six to three Steve Smith. You know, he's

914
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: a little bit better Jim Brown. You know, he's he

915
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: relaxed guys, you know. But but I do think Miller

916
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 3: does a better job of people don't want to hear

917
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 3: Like I heard this one the other day. Polk, the

918
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: wide receiver from Washington's a lot like Robert Woods. Oh

919
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: it's a quality player. Yeah, right, he's not a Hall

920
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 3: of Famer plus three inches and minus you know, two

921
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 3: tenths of his forty. Yeah.

922
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: What you don't want is to hear Caleb Williams is

923
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: like JaMarcus Russell, Right, that's about Yeah, he don't want

924
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: that comp But at.

925
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 3: Least you put me in the neighborhood. Yeah, who are they?

926
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 3: Who do they play?

927
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: Like?

928
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? He realistically as KYLEB. Williams one and his compass

929
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 3: Aaron rodgers On. I haven't seen that one yet, No

930
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: even either. I hear Kyler a lot, and I hear

931
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 3: my Homes a lot, and everyone's like, Mahomes is too rich.

932
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: My first overall picture better than Kyler. Kyler people are

933
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: pretty say about him in a couple of years. Yeah,

934
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior is his number two pick. His compass

935
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: a J. Green. That's what I heard is a faster

936
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 3: version hilarry. I'm like, well, that's probably like the best

937
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: player ever. Yeah, receiver that catches everything but fast, but fast,

938
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: has ridiculous ball skills, et cetera.

939
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: Right, so he hasn't worked out at all in this

940
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: process with the two other receivers at the top of

941
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: this draft, it is.

942
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 3: It's a little bit playing with fire. Yeah, it's not

943
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 3: most years, because I mean, neighbors in a Dona would

944
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: be first receivers taken often often. I still think Marvin's

945
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: probably getting good enough advice and probably will be the

946
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: first receiver off the board, But he's flirting with it

947
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: a little more than I would become. Yeah. Yeah, uh.

948
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: He actually has Roma Dunezia third on his list and

949
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: his compassed Jamar Chase on.

950
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 3: I'm not I'll see that to see the comparison there.

951
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 3: But I mean I think he's my hunches. He's thinking

952
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: do it all good after to catch physical. I don't

953
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: think he's quite as abrupt or as sudden as Chase

954
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: was out of his brakes.

955
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit bigger though, he's bigger, a little

956
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: bit taller, Yeah, yeah, much bigger actually yeah. Uh Four,

957
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: he has neighbors. That's what I'm saying with with those

958
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: three receivers.

959
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: I mean they're close, yeah, especially if you're not putting

960
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: position value on it. Yeah, I mean they're elite prospects.

961
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: And neighbors compass Stefan Diggs.

962
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: I may even say more explosive. Yeah, I mean, there's

963
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 3: not many that I would put in neighbors categories of explosiveness.

964
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 2: Digs though, I mean, well, I'm not taking it away

965
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: from neighbors. It's just good coaching. They do a lot

966
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: of scheme things to get him free. Where Diggs, especially

967
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 2: on his best great route runner, just line up against

968
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: the corner and beat him.

969
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like yeah, one on one.

970
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: Five he has Jade and Daniels. Okay, I agree with that.

971
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: I have I have Daniels is my number two quarterback.

972
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, I know you did really close. He

973
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: was fine too.

974
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. I have him kind of tied with May right now.

975
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: This isn't fair to him, but I wonder if you

976
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: would take Drake May and PLoP him in LSU last

977
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: year or which I understand.

978
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: Here's my thing about in his comp and this is

979
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: why I have Daniels where he's at, and this is

980
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: a great comp for him. I have his compas Lamar

981
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: Jackson with him. I think his rush, his running is

982
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 2: is pretty dark because really strong. Yeah, I do think

983
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: Lamar at that age was a better runner. But they're

984
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: in the same plane, same neighborhood. And he's a good thrower.

985
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: I mean he throws guys open. You know, he does

986
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: some good things, great things. Six he has Joe Alt

987
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: in the comp is Andrew Thomas, Okay, I mean that's fine.

988
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: Thomas is a little more physically imposing, yeah, just of

989
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 3: moving his man stronger powerful Alt was. I mean it's

990
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: a great technician and a really good athlete. You know.

991
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: At seven is Dallas Turner. Okay, and that's rich for me.

992
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: The compass Josh Allen. Well, if he's Josh Allen, then

993
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 3: you would take. You're talking about ray E Jacksonville. That's

994
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: a good one. Rush, Yeah, a little more finesse than power. Yeah,

995
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 3: but I think power plays at the next level. I

996
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: wouldn't have Turner that high.

997
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: He has Terry and Arnold at eight in the compass,

998
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon feisty, tough, Yeah, yeah, I don't mind. I

999
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: don't mind that comp Yeah. At nine is Drake Bay

1000
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: and his compass. Justin Herbert. It's kind of an obvious one.

1001
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: Physical traits are similar, very similar. Yeaheah, and had a

1002
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: semi rough last year.

1003
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: And if you remember, I mean there a lot of

1004
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: people weren't super high on Herbert coming out. Oh no,

1005
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: I mean two went ahead of him. Yeah, you know,

1006
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: they felt like he was and nobody.

1007
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: Nobody blinked and I went too, and went ahead of Herbert.

1008
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 3: Not at all.

1009
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: Now they'll go they take two, you know, to ahead

1010
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 2: of Herbert. Well, that's where everybody had them ranked as.

1011
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 3: Oregon didn't use them particularly well yeah yeah.

1012
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: Uh brock Bauers ten and he still has the compass.

1013
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 3: George Kittle. Hmmm. I'm saying I don't know who my

1014
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 3: comp would be with with Bowers I mean because Kittle

1015
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: is a killer in the run.

1016
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's a tremendous powers efforts great and all that,

1017
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: but he's not He's not that guy.

1018
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah.

1019
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: If you remember when when Kittle came out, it was

1020
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: he was considered a blocking tight end. And then he

1021
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: goes out to the it is pro day and runs

1022
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: like a four or five.

1023
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: I think Kittle with a straight line with the football

1024
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: in his hands beats Bowers in a race too. Yeah. Uh.

1025
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 2: He has Olu Fashanu as eleven in the compass, Terry

1026
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: Tron Armstead.

1027
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 3: Good one, yeah, really good pass protector, light on his feet,

1028
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: a lot of natural tools.

1029
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 2: Twelve is Talasi Fuaga. The comp is Darnell right, okay,

1030
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: recent one. Obviously they're right tackle run behind him guy.

1031
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah Byer Murphy. At thirteen, the comp is just a

1032
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 2: meta bouquet.

1033
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: Good one. I see that one. I'm fine with that. Yeah,

1034
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: Tiller body types. Yeah, they got a lot of common.

1035
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: At fourteen, Jared Verse the compass Trey Hendrickson.

1036
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: Okay, more of a power player than a dipping rip

1037
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: guy or a get load of the ground guy. I

1038
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: mean he's power first.

1039
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

1040
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: Fifteen is Quinya Mitchell and the compass Jalen Johnson, length,

1041
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: length and speed and yeah, yeah, okay, uh. Sixteen is

1042
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: Troy Fatanho and the compass Peter Skeronsky.

1043
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 3: That's a good one. It's a he's got longer arms. Yeah, exactly.

1044
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: I think he can play tackle. Yes, at this time

1045
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 3: we were pretty convinced Kronski's not a tackle. Yeah, and

1046
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: he never even got an opportunity on a really bad

1047
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: line where I think fatan who will. Seventeen is Brian

1048
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: Thomas and the compass T Higgins. Okay, yeah, I'm fine

1049
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 3: with that. Yeah, I mean a little less refined.

1050
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: This is for at eighteen he has a Donnie Mitchell

1051
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: and the comp is George Pickens.

1052
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 3: I see that. And this isn't a knock on Pickens.

1053
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: This is this is Pickens is a prospect, had a

1054
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 3: lot of questions, had a lot of inconsistencies, but had

1055
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: remarkable talent. Yeah, Mitchell to me, I must say because

1056
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: Pickings never had an effort issue. Mitchell runs a lot

1057
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 3: of routes at like half speed and disappears at times.

1058
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: And I don't know what he's being taught to do,

1059
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: but his highlight if you watch his highlight tape, you

1060
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: think he's you think he should go. Yeah, right, but

1061
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 3: there's a lot of why did you run your route

1062
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: this way type of question. He moved him.

1063
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: He had him at thirty on his original board. He

1064
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: moved him up to eighteen. After that, he saw him

1065
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: run at four three three at the at the end combine.

1066
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: So we haven't talked about this on the air, but

1067
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: if receivers, they're glaring number one need come draft day,

1068
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,479
Speaker 3: you know, like both of us have said Thomas would

1069
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: fit the bill. Yeah, I'm not sure if if Mitchell,

1070
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: if I'm on board or not. I've gone back and

1071
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: forth in the back of my head on that, like

1072
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: if receiver almost has to be the pick, you know, hypothetically,

1073
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 3: which I don't think they'll set themselves up that way, right, Yeah,

1074
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 3: would you be comfortable with him at twenty or twenty two,

1075
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 3: twenty three? Maybe maybe I really have to sit down

1076
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: with the kid.

1077
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: To see who is available, and you know, see what's

1078
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, how this is going to break nineteen? He

1079
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: has lay two, the edge rusher out of UCLA and

1080
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: the comp is Matthew Judon.

1081
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: That's a good one. That's a good comp I.

1082
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: Like physical, nasty, yeah, not super high ceiling athletically.

1083
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one is super interesting.

1084
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: At twenty As his number three cornerback, he has enis

1085
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: Rakestraw and the comp is tre Davious White, a.

1086
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 3: Little undersized, really good, cash tough. Yeah, that's early for Rakestraw.

1087
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: For me, I mean like I'm not putting them ahead

1088
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: of J. C. Latham or you know some of the

1089
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 3: guys we haven't mentioned yet. Yeah, Latham is still not

1090
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 3: one that popped up. That's not up there.

1091
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: Twenty one, he has Tyler Geiton and the comp is

1092
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: Lane Johnson. Oh, I think that's a great comp. I mean, fast,

1093
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: straight line, Oklahoma lean, great body type. Lane was rare coming.

1094
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: Out as your number three with three tackle, four tackles.

1095
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's a little early for me, Yeah, but I

1096
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: like the comparison. Lane Johnson's a Hall of Famer. The

1097
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: Hall Famer's comp and the guy to the Hall of

1098
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: Famer twenty two is JJ McCarthy. The comp is Jake Plumber.

1099
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Okay, I mean that's not a flattering one,

1100
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: but they all shouldn't be Hall of Fame compared with

1101
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: Jake Plumber started a lot of games in the League.

1102
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: I think he was an early second round pack. Jake

1103
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: Plumber took the Broncos to it in an AFC championship.

1104
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: The Steelers beat them, but certainly had the grittiness and

1105
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: the toughness that you talk about with McCarthy.

1106
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: Uh.

1107
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: Twenty three is J. C. Latham and the compass Juwan Taylor. Okay,

1108
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 2: I think he's the ceilings higher than Taylor. Yeah, he's

1109
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: more you know, he's a more natural player than but

1110
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean Taylor got big money just a year ago

1111
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 2: from the Chiefs.

1112
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, didn't have a great year.

1113
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: Twenty four is Amarius Mims and the comp is Cam Robinson.

1114
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: I don't know how you comp that guy. Yeah, I

1115
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: mean he's he looks different than everybody else, but he

1116
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 3: has no experience. Yeah, it just hasn't played. Yeah. And

1117
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: then twenty five he has Lad mconkey and the comp

1118
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 3: is Tyler Boyd. Faster though we talked about that much

1119
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: faster version.

1120
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: He four to three to nine at the combine. Tyler

1121
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: Boyd was a four to six guy.

1122
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: I think Boyd's the better blocker. I think mconkie can

1123
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 3: went on the outside more than Boyd could Tooah, you know,

1124
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 3: because of the speed, because of the speed outside releasesn't

1125
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: you know right? Absolutely, I'm a big fan of Lab Maconkin. No,

1126
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: I absolutely.

1127
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: Let's let's take a break here. We'll finish off this

1128
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: list when we come back. He is Matt Williamson. I'm

1129
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: Dale Allie. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers

1130
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: Nation Radio, and uh well, we are live here at

1131
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: the NFL Spring meetings here at in Orlando at the

1132
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: Rich Carlton. We'll be here Monday or as well Tuesday

1133
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: Wednesday and doing shows here. Yeah, you can hear us

1134
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: every day. Good environment, get some guests on. We of

1135
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: course had Rob King on here in the first hour

1136
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: as well. But we'll be back with our number two

1137
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: of the Drive right after this