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Speaker 1: Jack Doyle Podcast resumes here in the off season. Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor here with the great Jack Doyle, and

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Speaker 1: we are here to talk about the latest with the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. Even though we are in the off season

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Speaker 1: and you know, we've got some you know, things to

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Speaker 1: to sift through some you know, we're gonna lay down.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna lay Jack down the emotional couch over here, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and try to work through his emotions with unfortunately the

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Speaker 1: Colts missing out on the playoffs. And also we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about the playoffs themselves. They've been incredibly exciting so

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Speaker 1: far through one round with the wild card. The divisional

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Speaker 1: round continues this weekend. But Jack, how you've been since

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Speaker 1: the end of the season. Man, I feel like I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen you or talked to you, And I mean

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Speaker 1: I feel like we have this long distance relationship that

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Speaker 1: we have to catch up on them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy we take a week off. But luckily,

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Speaker 2: now that we're back together, we get to talk about

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Speaker 2: a lot of football that's gone on the you know,

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Speaker 2: the indeed, you know, five days or whatever, you know,

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Speaker 2: this previous weekend. So yeah, it's good to be.

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Speaker 1: Back, absolutely, So we'll talk about the fallout from the

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Speaker 1: eight and nine season for the Colts. We'll react a

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Speaker 1: little bit to what Chris Ballard and Carly ursa Gordon

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Speaker 1: Colts owner and CEO, what they had to say last

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Speaker 1: week regarding the current state of things and how the

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Speaker 1: team progresses and the mindset they're going to have this

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Speaker 1: off season. And then we'll talk about just, you know's

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Speaker 1: what's out there for the Colts in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 1: the aggressive mindset that maybe they need to take to

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Speaker 1: get things back on the right track, free agency, what

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Speaker 1: do they do with guys like Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 1: So a loaded podcasts per usual, But how you're feeling

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Speaker 1: about a week later, right, I mean after the fallout

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Speaker 1: from the season. You know, the Colts lose Week eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I mean obviously, you know, there weren't a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of playoff ramifications surrounding that game, Jack, But unfortunately the

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Speaker 1: reality is the Colts lose seventh straight the end the season,

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Speaker 1: finish under five hundred after a seven to one eight

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Speaker 1: and two start. How have you now that the dust

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Speaker 1: has kind of settled on the season, how have you

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Speaker 1: compartmentalized the season after you know, about a week or so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you you're thinking about it the past week,

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Speaker 2: and you know, you you're you're trying to move on

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Speaker 2: to the next season, and you know, you know, speaking

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Speaker 2: from a player's perspective, when you have an end of

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Speaker 2: a season like that, and then you feel like you

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Speaker 2: start to move on, right, and then you start watching

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Speaker 2: the playoff games and it's like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it comes all right back, man.

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Speaker 2: We you know, we had that great start and you

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Speaker 2: know it kind of fell apart at the end. But uh,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, it's stuff when you're watching other football. But

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Speaker 2: you know, you try to move on and and you know,

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Speaker 2: look in the mirror and reflect about things you could

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Speaker 2: have done better personally to.

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Speaker 3: Help the team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's just it. I mean, not to

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Speaker 1: be too dramatic about it, but it is, if you

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Speaker 1: don't mind me saying, it's a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: depressing moment. You know what, that game was on Sunday

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Speaker 1: the next the very next day. I mean we saw

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Speaker 1: it this weekend, right that the Jaguars lose, the Steelers lose.

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Speaker 1: The very next day, guys are inside the locker room

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Speaker 1: with trash bags and then they're cleaning out their locker

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Speaker 1: and they're you know, answering tough questions and they're talking

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Speaker 1: about their future is with you know, their current teams

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Speaker 1: or you know what, what what if they're free agents,

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Speaker 1: you know what, what life holds elsewhere in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: To take us through that emotion of coming right back

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Speaker 1: the very next day and having to do some really

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Speaker 1: serious discussions and not having really much time to kind

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Speaker 1: of let the dust settle on the conclusion of the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no matter how many times you do that day, right,

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Speaker 2: and everyone does that day except for one team, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and that's just the reality of what it is.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't get any less weird, right, It's just

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's a bit awkward. It's you know, there's

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Speaker 2: some emotions that come, you know, in there and you know,

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Speaker 2: you know this team will never be together. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's guys that you just fought your tail off with

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Speaker 2: for you know, the past six months or whatever, and

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Speaker 2: you'll never see you know, not that you'll never see

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Speaker 2: them again, but possibly, right, you know, you don't know

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Speaker 2: if you know, you'll try to keep up, but you know,

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Speaker 2: people's lives go on so it's it's a very weird

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Speaker 2: you know. You know, it's a very weird feeling when

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Speaker 2: you go to that locker clean out day and then

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Speaker 2: you know, the facility turns into a ghost town and

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Speaker 2: they're going to spend their off season. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: a weird day. And so yeah, and and it just

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Speaker 2: you know, it never you never, it never becomes easy,

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is a silly question, but by rule, do

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Speaker 1: I mean like come back on Tuesday or Wednesday and

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Speaker 1: get your stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you can come back.

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Speaker 2: But the equipment guys, you know you're up there and

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Speaker 2: see they're like, hey, we're you know, we're cleaning out

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Speaker 2: these lockers. You know, they got to get the disinfecting

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Speaker 2: got you gotta get everything out and no leaving stuff here.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I'm trying to tell Frog. You know, Frog,

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Speaker 2: I'm being here to work out. You know, Yes, so no,

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Speaker 2: get it all out. You can put it in here

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Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks. But uh so, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: can definitely be around there. There's rules about you know,

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Speaker 2: what you can do when you are around, right, and

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Speaker 2: you know, we'll probably get into that as we you know,

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Speaker 2: go through the off season. But uh, but yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: it's time to clean out the lockers so they can

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Speaker 3: Refresh for you get a refresh for the locker.

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Speaker 1: But but going along with that last thing on just

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Speaker 1: the halt of everything. And I think that's the right word.

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Speaker 1: That's the word I've always used. It just it just

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Speaker 1: comes to a screeching hole. I mean, you're in this

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it just stops, right. I mean

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Speaker 1: you see it from the player side. I don't. It's

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Speaker 1: not nearly as intense for me. But it's from a

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Speaker 1: broadcaster standpoint, there's always something to do, there's always the

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Speaker 1: it just stops. I Mean, how tough is it to

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Speaker 1: come to the realization that, like the season is over,

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Speaker 1: the grind is done, and now I don't really know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's especially those first couple of seasons because it's

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Speaker 2: really a shock because you come from college where you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe you get a week or two often than that,

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Speaker 2: you get right into the off season program and you're

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Speaker 2: back to you know, having a schedule and someone telling

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Speaker 2: you what to do. Sure, right, but as an NFL player,

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Speaker 2: that's on you. You got to figure out what you're

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Speaker 2: doing until you come back for OTAs in April. You

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Speaker 2: got to get yourself in shape, you got to get

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Speaker 2: yourself ready to go. So it is really weird because

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Speaker 2: you know you're going through a season. You get you

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Speaker 2: the season, and you know you're you know things I

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Speaker 2: think about, it's like you're eating meals with these guys

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Speaker 2: and then it just like you said, it just halts,

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Speaker 2: the facility turns into a ghost down because there's no

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Speaker 2: a challenge for guys to to to find their new

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Speaker 2: routine in what their offseason is going to kind of

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Speaker 2: staying busy and getting their work in all right.

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Speaker 1: So last week, you know, we had some movers and

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Speaker 1: shakers discuss the big picture fallout and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's the right word, but you know, the eight

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Speaker 1: are gonna look here for the Colts. So Carly ursa

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Speaker 1: Gordon Colts owner and CEO. She meets with the media

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Chris Ballard follows up on Thursday. But let's

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Speaker 1: start first with Carly, right. She was very upset, you know,

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Speaker 1: just talked about how frustrating it is to you know,

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Speaker 1: have five have straight years of missing the playoffs. And

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Speaker 1: she used the word urgency, right, or the phrase urgency

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Speaker 1: has never been higher. So what did you take away

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Speaker 1: their respective positions.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, to kind of second what you said, Matt,

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Speaker 2: I think you could you could, you know, feel her

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Speaker 2: the press conference was urgency, right, and that was her

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Speaker 2: you know, I think she was very direct in her

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Speaker 2: so let's let's go all chips in and let's move forward,

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Speaker 2: right and see if we can channel that hot start

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Speaker 2: right and push that through a whole season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean the reality is as we all know, right,

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Speaker 1: But just for for context, Colts haven't want of divisions

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Speaker 1: in twenty five. Team haven't made the playoffs since twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: haven't won a playoff game since twenty eighteen. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's been a boatload of you know, other teams around

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Speaker 1: the NFL that have experienced success and some of those aspects,

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Speaker 1: but the Colts now are they are tied for the

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Speaker 1: fourth longest playoff drought in the NFL. I think it's

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Speaker 1: the I think it's the Falcons and the Jets and

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Speaker 1: the Colts are the only teams that haven't made the

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Speaker 1: playoffs since twenty twenty. Right, so again, urgency is going

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Speaker 1: to be at the forefront of all of this, but

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Speaker 1: the Colts are keeping that, keeping the brass intact.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 1: So tell me, what are some some things that lead

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Speaker 1: you to optimism?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: What are some things that lead you to all Right,

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Speaker 1: we've made this decision. Why can things be turned around?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: We've talked about the eight and two seven and one start.

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Speaker 1: Tell me why that's more real than the fallout at

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Speaker 1: the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think the start is real, and I

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Speaker 2: think that is the reason for optimism. And you know,

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Speaker 2: you look at the start, right, and the eight and

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Speaker 2: two start, and then your starting quarterback gets hurt, right,

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Speaker 2: the fractured fibula, right, I mean that coming off the

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Speaker 1: You know, again, I think we've talked about this on

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Speaker 1: It's just funny. Like we have to kind of like

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Speaker 2: I mean we never no watchning't that Texan Steeler game

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Speaker 3: And that's what makes the NFL the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you bet on the NFL, God.

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Speaker 3: Bless yeah God Yeah, call the hot line.

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Speaker 1: Leave it right there and nine with it right, that's

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Speaker 1: So that was Carl Orsa. Gordon Chris Ballard spoke late

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Speaker 1: same record, but the difference is you were, like you said,

436
00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,800
Speaker 1: historically offensively putting up some Star War numbers, you're eight

437
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,200
Speaker 1: and two, And he said we had at that point,

438
00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,320
Speaker 1: right coming off of the Germany game, which unfortunately was

439
00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,480
Speaker 1: the last win of the season for the Colts, he said,

440
00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,280
Speaker 1: we were one of the top four teams in the NFL.

441
00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,800
Speaker 1: It's hard to argue against that. So how do the

442
00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,160
Speaker 1: Colts get significantly better this offseason and what are those

443
00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,680
Speaker 1: areas they really need to address?

444
00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think Chris, you know, the thing

445
00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,439
Speaker 2: that kind of caught my attention, and and you know

446
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,560
Speaker 2: Chris's press conference was him saying, you know, getting younger

447
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,840
Speaker 2: and faster on defense, right, And you know, and I

448
00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,480
Speaker 2: think what comes with that is depth, right, and and

449
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,760
Speaker 2: having young guys who can plug and play and and

450
00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,400
Speaker 2: and come in and and and be a difference maker, right,

451
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:48,960
Speaker 2: you know, when when when they're asked to, you know,

452
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,120
Speaker 2: step up, because like we've talked about, you know, we're

453
00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,640
Speaker 2: trying to We're not trying to you know, blame the injuries,

454
00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,399
Speaker 2: but injuries are you know, the the you know injury

455
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,679
Speaker 2: rate in the NFL is one hundred percent. You know,

456
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Speaker 2: that's what they tell us as players when we first

457
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,200
Speaker 2: show up. So you got to you gotta prepare for it.

458
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, that definitely caught my attention in Chris's message

459
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,679
Speaker 2: and saying, you know, he wants to get younger and

460
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,080
Speaker 2: faster on defense, and.

461
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,879
Speaker 3: Uh, it'll be, you know, it'll be.

462
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 2: It'll be a tough off season for Chris, right, and

463
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,000
Speaker 2: a challenging off season for Chris is what I'm seeing,

464
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 2: you know, coming up. And but I'm also excited to

465
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 2: see you know, you know, the moves him and him

466
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,400
Speaker 2: and his team kind of make.

467
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Speaker 1: Well, let's pick up there, because the Colts do have

468
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,480
Speaker 1: some big decisions to make. Yeah, some personnel calls, right,

469
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,639
Speaker 1: especially along the defensive line. Quitt he Pay, Taekwon Lewis, Samson, Ebacom.

470
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,000
Speaker 1: These are all guys who are going into free agency. Unfortunately,

471
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 1: the Colts kind of finish right in the middle of

472
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 1: the pack in terms of sacks, and I know, you know,

473
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Speaker 1: the the overall grade of a defensive line shouldn't be

474
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Speaker 1: solely based on just how many sacks you have, right,

475
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,720
Speaker 1: There's so many other things I go into it in

476
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 1: terms of impact and you know, did you force an

477
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:52,680
Speaker 1: early throw.

478
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 3: And things like freeing up a linebacker. You know, there's

479
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:54,959
Speaker 3: all kinds, right.

480
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of nuance to it. But

481
00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, the Colts also have some guys that have

482
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 1: been here a while on defense, some core players to

483
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 1: Forest Buckner's been here a while, Kenny Moore has been

484
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,159
Speaker 1: here since twenty seventeen, Zaire Franklin's been here since twenty eighteen,

485
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: Grover Stewart since twenty seventeen. I mean, these are all

486
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 1: really good players. Yeah, and unfortunately, Jack, they don't have

487
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 1: a whole lot of postseason well, first of all, they

488
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,400
Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of postseason experience to show

489
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Speaker 1: for it. They certainly don't have a whole lot of

490
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Speaker 1: postseason success to show for it. So when they when

491
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Speaker 1: when Chris says we got to get younger and faster,

492
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 1: where do you think he specifically means that within the

493
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 1: three levels of the defense.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, as we kind of you know mentioned

495
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 2: early on, and seeing how you know, in free agency

496
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,640
Speaker 2: last year, I feel like we attacked, you know, the back.

497
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Speaker 3: End of the defense.

498
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 2: You know, I'm thinking corners, safeties that type, you know,

499
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 2: and signing some big, big name guys and so you know,

500
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 2: my instincts are telling me, you know, that's going to

501
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 2: be at the front end this year, right, and and

502
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 2: you know at the at the d line level and

503
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,719
Speaker 2: the linebacker level. So, like I said, it'll be interesting

504
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 2: to see it. You know, defense is you know obviously

505
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 2: you know I'm always biased toward the offense. But but

506
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 2: but watching a great defense, right, you do you need

507
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 2: young guys who can run with a mix of the

508
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 2: veteran guys, right. You know again, you know I'm talking

509
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 2: about the Monday night because watching this Texans defense, right,

510
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: I mean, if you just like I know, we I

511
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 2: trust me. I do not like the Texans, right, It's

512
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: hard for me to watch, but watching them the way

513
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: Demiko Ryan gets those guys ready to play, and the

514
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: way they play football, and they again, they have a

515
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 2: great mix of veteran guys, right with a bunch of

516
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 2: young guys who can run and tackle right and and

517
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,719
Speaker 2: and that's you know, that's a blueprint for defense in

518
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 2: my opinion, And and and having that mix of veteran

519
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 2: leaders who can you know, diagnosed plays and get guys

520
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 2: lined up and get you in the right spot. But

521
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: also having you know, the the speed you know, I

522
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 2: keep saying young guys, but just having the speed and

523
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: and and the ability to get after the quarterback to

524
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Speaker 2: to to make it challenging on him.

525
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 3: You know.

526
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 2: Again, I think that's where you know, we we see

527
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Speaker 2: you know, we say the sense of urgency. That's where

528
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 2: we see the urgency on that side of.

529
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: The ball, you know, with us staying on defense right now,

530
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean, as we're taping this right now, Louis and

531
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: Rumo kind of a hot name, you know, interviewing, interviewing

532
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: for some head coaching jobs. I think Tennessee and the Giants.

533
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes, right and rightfully, So, I mean,

534
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: this guy is a really good football mind. He's been

535
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: in the interview cycle, if you want to call that,

536
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years before he came over

537
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: to the Colts as a defensive coordinator. You know, all

538
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 1: those great successful years with the Cincinnati Bengals taking them

539
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 1: to AFC championship games in the Super Bowl. But what again,

540
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 1: I know you mentioned the injuries, but this is going

541
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: to be probably a really difficult question to answer, and

542
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: I apologize for that. But how do you think what

543
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: overall grade would you give the defense this year?

544
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: Right?

545
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: Because it's kind of hard to tell because it's kind

546
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: of an incomplete grade because of guys who were in

547
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 1: and out of the lineup, and they played a majority

548
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Speaker 1: of the season without guy they were really counting on,

549
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, in preseason and training camp.

550
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and coach lou I remember, you know

551
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: when he you know, came came over the defensive coordinator

552
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: and I think it was the guys in Cincinnati who's

553
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: called him, you know, the mad scientists, right, And and

554
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: we saw that early in the season. I'm thinking back

555
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: to that first game in Miami and just watching how

556
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: Tua was so confused with how you know, they were

557
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: changing schemes and rolling coverages and at the snap of

558
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: the ball. And I think, you know, again as the end,

559
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: you know, as the injuries kind of happened in the

560
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: back end throughout the season, you know, that kind of

561
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: limited is you know, all the stuff they could do

562
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: on the back end to to to be multiple and

563
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: and and you know, giving different looks, and and and

564
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: and that's what you know, Coach Lou's scheme is, that's

565
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: what he you know, that's what he's built on. He's

566
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: built on, you know, confusing you on the back end

567
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: and then getting after you up front. So again, like

568
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: you said, Matt, it is a tough question to kind

569
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 2: of just give an overall grade because it was you know,

570
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: it was a roller coaster, right, it was up and down.

571
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: You know, you have the great defensive effort there in Seattle.

572
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: At the end of the season, it's like, oh, yeah,

573
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: you know here they are right, you know, this is

574
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: the forty nine game. The next week, yeah, it's like

575
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 2: that's what you saw earlier in the season. And then

576
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: you know, you know, you just didn't have the consistency

577
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 2: that that you have to have in the NFL, right,

578
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 2: you know, as a player, as a team, as a coach,

579
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: you know, you need consistency or you know, you'll get exposed,

580
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: you know, you know, if you're not carrying it over

581
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 2: from week to week. So it's tough to give it

582
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: an overall grade with again with with with how it

583
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 2: kind of the fluidity of how the season you know went, sure,

584
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 2: but yeah, you know it's again it's going to be

585
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: a challenging offseason, is what I think of when when

586
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: I think of all those things.

587
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Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned the Miami game week one. I

588
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: mean I go back even further than that. I mean

589
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Speaker 1: the first day of training camp. Yeah, and probably most

590
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Speaker 1: specifically the first day of full pads of training camp,

591
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, watching aesthetically how this defense was going to

592
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: play and you had for the most part all of

593
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: your guns then, right, and Buckner and Justin Wally.

594
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just thought when you say the first you know,

595
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: practice a training camp, I thought of that Justin Wallly,

596
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: how great of a camp he was having.

597
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 3: Again another I.

598
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: Got excited about, like, holy smokes, this this looks way

599
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: different than what we're used to so generally speaking, what

600
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: what what changes were the Colts forced into because of personnel?

601
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: Right, we're.

602
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: I think the way to describe it would be, and

603
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: maybe you don't agree with it, but they were just

604
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: way less I think for the common fan to understand it.

605
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: They were way less game specific than they wanted to

606
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: be because of the personnel.

607
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were more simple, right. And and because you

608
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: don't you know, when you're doing all that, you know,

609
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: rolling coverages and you know you're showing pressure over here

610
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: and then you're bringing over here. That's really challenging on

611
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: the defense, right, And you all got to play as one.

612
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: You got to be on the same page, and you

613
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: know you can bind them back there trying to direct everybody.

614
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 3: He's kind of the quarterback.

615
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: Of of of of you know how they're kind of

616
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: rolling and doing different things. So you know, as a coach,

617
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: you know you have hesitation to do that with guys

618
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: who haven't practiced it, right. I mean that's you know,

619
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 2: anyone can kind of anyone. It's coach there, you know,

620
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: youth sports or whatever. It's like you're gonna do things

621
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: that you practice, right, and and so not having the

622
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 2: experience with those guys, and and and again not being

623
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: able to you know, this is not the guys we

624
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 2: had in training camp who were out there a lot

625
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: of times. So so yeah, just not having the reps

626
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: of doing it, you know, it makes you hesitate to

627
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: to to to get into all that complex schemes and

628
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: things like that. So you don't have guys running free, right,

629
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 2: and so yeah, you know that's that's kind of how

630
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 2: it all went down.

631
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Speaker 1: And this is not a shot at these guys, but

632
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: I mean guys like Jonathan Edwards, ma kay Blackman, Cameron Mitchell,

633
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: these guys I think are gonna be great players. Yeah,

634
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: and they fought their tails off, right, But was it

635
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: just did it boil down to like a lack of trust?

636
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

637
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean that's that's not again, that's

638
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: nothing against those guys. That's just you know, coaches will

639
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: do and play who they trust.

640
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: Right, not guys like Gardner.

641
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that have experienced, right, and have been in

642
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: the NFL and and have you know, been through you know,

643
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: and and a lot of guys who went through training camp.

644
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: You know Kaye Blackman, you know he was he came, Yeah,

645
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: he came in the week one or something like that, right,

646
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly what it was, but yeah, it

647
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: is like coaches are going to do and they're going

648
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: to call what they trust, right, you know, That's that's

649
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: just how they're built, and that's just the way you know,

650
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: football goes, That's just the way sports goes.

651
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, you mentioned the defensive line. Last thing

652
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: on the defense. Again, we'll see what happens with some

653
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: some key free agents up front, most notably Quitty pay Right,

654
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: who is an in house guy. Draft in the first round.

655
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: There's some tough calls there. How do the Colts big

656
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: picture question? How do the Colts address that in a

657
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: major way? And they don't have a first round draft

658
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: pick as of right now, so you know this is

659
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: kind of a hypothetical, but but how do you because

660
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: that's a premium position, yes, right, and it takes first

661
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: round capital to draft impact players at those spots? Is

662
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: that going just nutso overboard and free agents? Like, how

663
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: do you address that in the offseason without a first

664
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: round pick?

665
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: It might have to be it might have to be

666
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 2: go Nutso as you said free agency, it's just like

667
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: you said, it's a premier position, and I and I

668
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: just I just see how much it changes a game, right,

669
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: And again maybe I'm speaking you know from a tight

670
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 2: ends perspective, and how much I hated or dreaded when

671
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 2: you had a guy out there and going to block

672
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: him and then even like you know, I wouldn't have

673
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: to pass black him very often because that would be

674
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: bad coaching, but having to like you know, they'd be like,

675
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: oh yeah, you know, Jack chip him on your way out,

676
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: So then it's messing up my route, right, and then

677
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not you know, there's so many things.

678
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: Those guys just disrupt a game. And they call them

679
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: game wreckers for a reason because they could not get

680
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: a sack. But they're affecting what the offense is calling.

681
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: They're affecting, you know, what the tight ends route is,

682
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: right as I just mentioned. So I think you have

683
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: to have a guy, man, and I know it's so

684
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: hard to find, but I think you you go for it.

685
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's like going for the quarterback position.

686
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: Right in my opinion, I think it's that important and

687
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: that you have to just kind of go for it

688
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: and to change a defense, to change a team, and

689
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: I think if you can somehow some way find one,

690
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta.

691
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta gotta got to balance the need that's there, yea,

692
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: with all with also.

693
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: The the urgency that we've talked.

694
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: We heard it as a franchise, like I wouldn't be

695
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: shocked if the Colts do not.

696
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: I would not be at all. I'm all in on

697
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: it because I I think it could really be a

698
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: game changer.

699
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

700
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean that's some some conversation for later on in

701
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: the offseason, once we get closer to free agency, we'll

702
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: talk about some of the specific names at that position

703
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 1: that might be out there and what it would take

704
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: to bring those guys in to lure them over to

705
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: the Colts. Speaking of free agency, Jack, I mean, from

706
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: the sounds of it, there's there's a lot of, you know,

707
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: reason to think that there's mutual interest in reuniting Daniel

708
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: Jones and the Colts within this offense for next year.

709
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: You know, obviously he's going to be rehabbing that achilles

710
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: all off season. But I mean, based on what you

711
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: saw in the first ten games pre fibula, I mean,

712
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: he was playing incredibly strong and he meant a lot

713
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: to this offense. So how much mutual interest do you

714
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: think there should be after what you saw this year

715
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: from Daniel Jones?

716
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: Right?

717
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: I know it's easy to say after the season's over

718
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: on locker clear out days, like, yeah, I'd like to

719
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: come back. Yeah, I mean that's kind of a can response. Yeah,

720
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: But how much really in reality should Daniel Jones want

721
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: to come back here?

722
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

723
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: I think he definitely wants to come back here. And

724
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: I think the first thing that comes to mind is

725
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: his relationship with Shane. And again I don't I wasn't

726
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: in the you know, I'm not in the locker.

727
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: I'm not in the meetings. I'm not.

728
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: But just you know, observing from Afar and seeing how

729
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: well they connected and you know, saw the game the

730
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: same way, and and and again is Shane got the

731
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: best at of Daniel, and Daniel got the best out

732
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: of Shane, right, So you know, I think the mutual

733
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: interest should be high. And obviously Daniel, you know, speaking

734
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: from a player's perspective, he's got to go through the

735
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: whole free agency process, right, and he's gonna say, you know,

736
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: defer to my agent. And there's gonna be suitors out

737
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: there for this guy, you know, even though he's coming

738
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: off the achilles.

739
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: I agree how high the high level he played.

740
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: And and like we've talked about how desperate are teams

741
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: to get a quarterback, right, I mean, so you got,

742
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: you got, you gotta be ready to to any up

743
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: in my opinion, right because I I think it's a

744
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: no brainer to to bring Daniel back. And and there's

745
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: there's you know, the things we hear about him, and

746
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: and and the things you've seen, you know, seen from him,

747
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: And there's not a guy that's gonna you know, work

748
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: harder in the rehab process and get himself ready to play.

749
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: And you know, I know, coming off an achilles, I've

750
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: never I've never experienced that, and it's.

751
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: A really tough deal.

752
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: But but I I think this is a smart guy

753
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: who you know, knows his body well and he's he's honestly,

754
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: he's kind of like a genetic freaking I think people

755
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: forget about this.

756
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: Dude's a This dude's a dude. Man.

757
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: I bet he's he's athletic, he's strong, right, So yeah,

758
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: I think again, you don't want to you know, you know,

759
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: relying on an achilles guy coming off achilles is tough.

760
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: But but I think Daniel hand of the process the

761
00:31:59,400 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: right way.

762
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: Well said that he sees short term success and maybe

763
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is the long term answer at quarterback. I mean,

764
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: those are his works.

765
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: Hold's Daniel, he's twenty eight.

766
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty seven, twenty eight, I mean I know he's

767
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: less than thirty. Yeah, so he's got some great years

768
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: ahead of him.

769
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, absolutely, absolutely, quarterback, you can play to him

770
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: thirty five.

771
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: I mean we'll say thirty five.

772
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Philip forty four, but Tom Brady too, yeah, right right, yeah,

773
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: it just depends on on you know what your your

774
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: your your goals are there. But my point is, you know,

775
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: you hear the GM say that, and then the two

776
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: teams that immediately come to my mind. You know at

777
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: the Vikings, who I think are a quarterback away.

778
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: And he was there for a minute. Yeah, and I.

779
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: Think you know that their coaching staff really appreciated what

780
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was and could be. And same thing maybe

781
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: with the Steelers. We'll see, you know, they're out of

782
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs now, and this whole Aaron Rodgers saga that started.

783
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: Again, that's one I haven't really thought of them.

784
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good, but I mean I think they're probably

785
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: thinking to themselves, we're we're long term, stable quarterback away

786
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: from really having success, even though everybody wants to run

787
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: inexplicably Mike Tomlin out of town because all the guy

788
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: does is win and produce winning seasons and avoid missing

789
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs and things like that. But that's neither here

790
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: nor there. My point is I wouldn't be shocked Jack

791
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: to see Daniel Jones lock it up with the Colts

792
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: prior to the new league year, starting in free agency.

793
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: Hitting.

794
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking from the Colts perspective, I think that'd be

795
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: a good call, right and.

796
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: Again, even with him coming off the injury, Even with.

797
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: Him coming off the injury again, and I think, like

798
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: we've talked about Matt and the mutual interest is really there.

799
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: And I think Daniel, you know, he obviously had a

800
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: career resurgence here and again the connection he made with

801
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: Shane I think is going to play a big part

802
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: in all this.

803
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: All right, we're talking quarterbacks now, speaking of that, what

804
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: do you think of Riley Leonard?

805
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: I thought Riley did a great job. I mean, now,

806
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: he was He's fun to watch, right, he's excited. Obviously

807
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: he had a couple you know, what do you want

808
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: to call him rookie mistakes or things like that.

809
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: But what I was most impressed with was him throwing

810
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: it from the pocket. Man. He completed some balls.

811
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: And you know, Alex Pierce was balling right at per usual, right,

812
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: but it was really cool to see him make some

813
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: plays with his legs. And yeah, I was really impressed

814
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 2: with with Riley's effort in that last game in Houston.

815
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he really showed you some stuff. Yeah,

816
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean this is not I'm not being critical at all.

817
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: Don't don't get it twisted. I'm not being critical at

818
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: all of the decision to go to Philip Rivers right

819
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: in the last three or four games. Right, I thought

820
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: that was the right move. I really did. But isn't

821
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: it kind of funny how we're just sort of afraid.

822
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: I think just as football people, we're just kind of

823
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: afraid of the unknown. Yeah, and Riley Leonard was a

824
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: little bit of an unknown. When you're trying to make

825
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs and you still have playoff chances, you know,

826
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: the math says we can still get in. So let's

827
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: bring in Philip Rivers, who has all of this experience,

828
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: and then when you're eliminated, all right, let's see what

829
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard can do.

830
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: Right.

831
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: It's just kind of like you're you're just kind of

832
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of trepidation there when you're when

833
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: you you don't have a full picture. You've got a

834
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: lot of unknown when the game or the seasons on

835
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: the line. And my point is, I think Riley Leonard

836
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: proved a lot of people wrong or shown more than

837
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: than what people thought he could do as a rookie.

838
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: Well, he earned trust, right, as we talked about every coach,

839
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: and they're all wired the same, right, They're gonna play

840
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: who they trust, you know, and that's part of the reason.

841
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: I know Riley had a knee or whatever coming out

842
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: of that Jacksonville game, and that played into to bring

843
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: him Philip in. But but coaches are gonna play who

844
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: they trust, right, And Shane trusts Philip right, and and

845
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: then that's that's why they you know, they went that way.

846
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: And and and Riley had had, you know, to right,

847
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: and Riley had had an opportunity, right.

848
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 3: To to really earn that trust.

849
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: But you know, he had a great opportunity down there

850
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: in Houston to to to again you know, this is

851
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: a little knock on it, you know, notch on his resume,

852
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: right and and what you can do out there, and

853
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: and so yeah, you know, he he earned some trust

854
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: and in this coaching staff for sure, and you know,

855
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: and earned some trust you know, for me watching him play,

856
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: I was really impressed.

857
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he just showed some people what he

858
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: can actually do. Competitor man I don't think people really

859
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: realized all the things that he could do, primarily in

860
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: that first half against a Bonify defense that was playing

861
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: all out in the first half from the Texan.

862
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, like the deep ball, you know,

863
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: the deep ball throws. You know, we saw that a

864
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: little bit in Jacksonville, and I think we talked about it,

865
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 2: you know, when he came in for Daniels for Daniel

866
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: in the second half, you know, throwing that deep ball.

867
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 3: But again, I was most impressed.

868
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: You know, I knew Riley could get out and make

869
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: plays with his legs and extend plays and things like that,

870
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: but there's a few times he converted some third downs

871
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: from the pocket and you know, and and standing there

872
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: and delivering an accurate ball. So so yeah, good for

873
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: him for you know, he's been preparing for that moment

874
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: since you know, probably he was five years old, right

875
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: to be an NFL starting quarterback and get that opportunity,

876
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 2: and then it went well for him.

877
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: So so yeah, I was really happy for him, all right.

878
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 1: Lastly, on the quarterbacks, the Colts have until May when

879
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: it comes to Anthony Richardson and that decision to pick

880
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: up his fifth year option. We know he finished the

881
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: year on IR Week six pregame against the Cardinals. The

882
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: freak accident, right the you know, whatever you want to

883
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: call it, the mechanism that's actually hosting the stretch band

884
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: comes disengaged and it hits him in the face. I mean,

885
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: just a scary thing. But he's having these lingering vision

886
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: issues in his right eye, and he told reporters there

887
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: towards the end of the season that he's still kind

888
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: of struggling handling snaps inside practice. So they activated him

889
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: or they put him on the twenty one day window,

890
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: never activated him towards the end of the season, and

891
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: so finishes the year on IR. And he only played

892
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: in a handful of games this year. So what do

893
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: you think Richardson's immediate future is?

894
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: Right if the.

895
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Colts bring back Jones and have that trust in faith

896
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: in him. We just talked about what Riley Leonard can

897
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: potentially be and how viable of a backup quarterback he

898
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: could be going into twenty twenty six. What does this

899
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: mean for Anthony?

900
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Obviously.

901
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: The first concern is is you know, Anthony's you know

902
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: health and and and getting hopefully you know, finding ways

903
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 2: or you know, or getting the rest or you know,

904
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: whatever it's going to take to kind of get that vision. Improve, yeah,

905
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: improve the eyesight so that you know he's back to

906
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: full strength, and and thoughts and prayers with him for that,

907
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 2: because that, you know, what a scary deal, Like you said,

908
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: a freak accident and then to still have some lingering

909
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: issues going on is yeah, that's got to be really

910
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: frustrating for Anthony from his perspective to deal with.

911
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know.

912
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: You know, I think, you know, listening to Shane and

913
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: Chris kind of talked about again that you know, the

914
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: first concern was his health. And but again, you know,

915
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: let's say, you know, let's say you know, Daniel Jones

916
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: is re signed, right and you know you had Riley

917
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: played really well, but Daniels is still Daniel is still

918
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: coming off in Achilles, right, So I think Anthony, you know,

919
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: I think there still is a place there right in

920
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: preparing into next season, you know, depending on how you know,

921
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 2: Daniel's rehab goes and things like that. So so yeah,

922
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: but yeah, obviously the first concern is is is his

923
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 2: health and and hoping that that the is I can

924
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: come back to normal.

925
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: You know tangent, but again, if the total hypothetical, we're

926
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: probably getting way ahead of ourselves. This is fun though,

927
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: But if Daniel Jones comes back and you have Riley

928
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: Leonard and Anthony Richardson still on the roster. Last year,

929
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: the buzzword was it really started around the combine. It

930
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: was We're gonna have a competition, We're gonna push these guys.

931
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: Is there is there a competition at quarterback? If Daniel

932
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: Jones does come.

933
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: Back, If Daniel Jones, is it.

934
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: That emphatic this offseason compared to last If Daniel Jones

935
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: comes back, Daniel Jones is the starting quarterback?

936
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: I mean right, I mean that's and I think the

937
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: money will show that that's That's the way that goes

938
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Right, there's still competition, right, and you know,

939
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 2: you gotta make talks, you gotta play, you gotta play well.

940
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: But you know, Daniel, Daniel get the opportunity to win.

941
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: He's healthy right just to start the season. But there

942
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: could be a competition, you know, Riley and Anthony, you

943
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: know if if it's if it goes that way.

944
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: And Daniel just kind of trickles down a notch.

945
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: Daniel's not ready for the start of the season, you know, right,

946
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: who knows how all that shakes out. Again, we're you know,

947
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: like you said, we're hypotheticals and getting ahead of ourselves.

948
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: But that's what we're here for to to to talk

949
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: and that's a.

950
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: Stove stuff right this time of year. Welcome to Welcome

951
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: to January. Right, all right, Jack, to close out, I

952
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: do want to talk about the playoffs. The playoffs have

953
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: been highly entertaining. More often than not. We've seen some

954
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: great games, a lot of fourth quarter lead changes, a

955
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: lot of back and forth. The twenty twenty five wild

956
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: Card round produced four games decided by five points. The

957
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: Rams beat the Panthers by three, Bears over the Packers

958
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: by four. What a wild game that was. Bill's over

959
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: the Jags by three, and forty nine Ers beat the

960
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: Eagles by four. So as it relates to the Colts

961
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: and you know their struggles down the stretch, what have

962
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: you learned about playoff football and what that means for

963
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: the Colts and their quest to get back to it.

964
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's like it's one score games, right,

965
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: and you got to finish. I mean, so many of

966
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: those games, like the stats of how much how many

967
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: points were scored in the final eight minutes of some

968
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: of those games is just insane, right. It was like,

969
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: especially you know the Bears Packers game. You know, I

970
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: got home late and we're able to turn that one

971
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 2: on and it's like, oh, you know, it's twenty one six,

972
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: nothing's really happening, right, and then boom, you know, you know,

973
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: they start lighting it up. And it was the week

974
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: before with the Steelers and Ravens. I know that won

975
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: a playoff game, but it was the same kind of thing.

976
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: Last eight minutes it goes crazy. So so yeah, it

977
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: shows that the NFL is gonna be one score games.

978
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: The Colts, you know, obviously that's a key area that

979
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: they want to improve in, right, So yeah, I think

980
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: you know, Shane Will, we'll put those guys in in somehow,

981
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: some way. That's his job as a head coach. Put

982
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: those guys in that situation, you know, coming into OTA's

983
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: coming into training camp next year and finding ways to

984
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: make you know, competitions in that way to improve that

985
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 2: area for the Colts.

986
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: How about this one for the five wild card games

987
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: before Monday night, so really it's four US six. Four

988
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: had a six featured a team who won that was

989
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: trailing with less than three minutes to go in the

990
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And that's an area where the Colts really

991
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: struggled as well. And Chris hit that at the end

992
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: of the season, right and his end of the year

993
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: press conference, he said, we got to finish games. We

994
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: gotta find ways to win close games, but we also

995
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: have to be better in end of half and end

996
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: of game situations. I mean against the Chiefs, Seahawks, and Texans,

997
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: the Colts gave up the game tying or go ahead

998
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: field goals in the final thirty seconds of regulation and

999
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: during their seven game losing skid at the end of

1000
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: the year. I looked this up the other day just

1001
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: to drive home the point. The Colts allowed forty points

1002
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: in the final two minutes of halves and games, which

1003
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: was the third worst mark in the NFL in the

1004
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: last seven games of the season. I mean, that's it

1005
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: right there.

1006
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: That's huge, man.

1007
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: I got that's a stat situational football, right, I mean,

1008
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: it's always that's what the NFL is. It's who wins

1009
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: third down, who wins red zone, who wins turnovers, who

1010
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: wins in a half, who wins in the game Like

1011
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: that that's who wins the game.

1012
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 3: Just look at those things and man and how you

1013
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: can get the you know you get the double. I

1014
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: love the double score right, you know you score right

1015
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: before half? Do you get the ball?

1016
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: I think that's huge, right, And there's so many different

1017
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: situations and being able to win situational football. You know

1018
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: that that's what every team's harping on. So who can

1019
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: harp on it the most and figure out a way

1020
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: to you know, figure it out?

1021
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, playoffs roll on divisional matchups this weekend I think

1022
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: I think the wild card round in the divisional matchups

1023
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: when you have multiple games Saturday and Sunday, I think

1024
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: those are the best weekends of the year.

1025
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: Well, this was the best five days. You know, the

1026
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: Coults weren playing, so that's stunk. But you know, college

1027
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: football semi final Thursday. You gotta watch your Hoosiers college

1028
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: football semi final on Friday, and then playoff football Saturday, batball,

1029
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: playoff football. I was like, this is the best five

1030
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: days a year, right, not turn my TV off. I'm

1031
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 2: not going anywhere.

1032
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: Nope, no, sorry, I'm busy.

1033
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: That's when you do all your shopping on Amazon. So

1034
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: you have to lead right one, click right all right

1035
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: to wrap up. If you're new to the podcast, we

1036
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: always we always have fun with Jack, get to know

1037
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: him a little bit better. We call it you don't

1038
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: know Jack. You don't know Jack Doyle in the personal sense.

1039
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: You know him as the football player. But here's your

1040
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: question this week, as we get to know you a

1041
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: little bit better, Jack Doyle. To close out the show today,

1042
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: I want to know Jack, who was your favorite player

1043
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: non Colts teammate related? So you can't you can't name

1044
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: a Colts team exactly. Yeah, I can't be t Y.

1045
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: We all we know your affinity for t Y. But

1046
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: who is your favorite non Colts teammate player in the

1047
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: NFL when you played?

1048
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: And why? Yeah, that's good.

1049
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: So I always had an appreciation for all the tight ends,

1050
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: right yeah, and watching the tight ends and then there's

1051
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: so many, you know, so many names come to mind.

1052
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: You know.

1053
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: I was lucky enough that I got to play with

1054
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: so my career started. I did my OTA's in training camp.

1055
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: So this is a Titans teammate, I guess. I was

1056
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: with Delaney Walker for a little bit and it was

1057
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 2: great learning from him, and he taught me a lot

1058
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: and it was a heck of a just a yeah

1059
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: football player. He blocked, he moved around right. I loved

1060
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: his game. So it was fun learning from him. And

1061
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: and Ryan Fitzpatrick was that happened to be the backup

1062
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: for Locker when I was in Tennessee, so I got

1063
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: to learn a lot from fitz was kind of my

1064
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: you know, I was running with the two, so oh yeah,

1065
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: he was gotta you know, he was feeding he was

1066
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: feeding me the ball. It wasn't that it wasn't what

1067
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: it is right now you see on Amazon Prime, but

1068
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: uh he but yeah, he was fits was feeding me

1069
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: the ball and was a you know, was a great,

1070
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: you know, great helper from me. He was kind of

1071
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: similar to what Hasselback was. You know, I know I'm

1072
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 2: not allowed to say Colt s teammates, but what Hasseback

1073
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: was when I got here, right, But there's so many

1074
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: tight ends. I'm you know, I grew up loving Jason Witten,

1075
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 2: so it was fun to you know. I remember we

1076
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: played against them in a preseason game and I'm like,

1077
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna go up to him after the

1078
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: game be like, oh dude. And I remember, like he's

1079
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: sitting there talking to you know Brian Schoenheimer, him and

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Speaker 2: him were talking and I go like, probably interrupt the conversation, right,

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Speaker 2: and I just kind of like he's like looks at me,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just like, uh, I like you, yeah, good football, sir,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 3: You don't know how much you.

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Speaker 2: Don't know how much I've watched you play football and

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Speaker 2: love the way you play.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure he really appreciated that though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there's so there's so many guys, right,

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Speaker 2: and I got to give a shout out one more.

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Speaker 2: Sorry I'm rambling on people here, but uh but my

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Speaker 2: guy Tyler Higbee playing tight end for the Rams. He's

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Speaker 2: a Western Kentucky guy Hilltoppers, so we got to stick

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Speaker 2: together and he's he's battled through some things and he

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00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: had a couple of catches this past week and so

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Speaker 2: so always pulling for my guy Tyler.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Fitzpatrick's a great one. Just follow the smart guys follow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, League was the man like he he I mean,

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Speaker 2: he probably got me claimed here, right, I mean, like

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Speaker 2: you just like feed me the ball in the preseason games, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and then I think Gregson said it was

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Speaker 2: more for you know, my blocking.

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Speaker 3: They were going to throw it to me here early anyways.

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00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: But but I got to play a lot early on

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Speaker 2: and and and a credit to Fitz and he gave

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Speaker 2: me a lot of confidence.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: You know, you go through that first training camp as

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Speaker 2: a rookie, there's things, you know, it's and I'll say

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Speaker 2: this training camp was a little harder back then, right,

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Speaker 2: and you know, you know, we're in full pads a

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Speaker 2: lot more. And you know there's day there's day back

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Speaker 2: in my day in twenty thirteen, but there's uh there,

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Speaker 2: there there was some you know some days, some you know,

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Speaker 2: rookie moments and things like that. But he helped install

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Speaker 2: confidence in me and uh and kept me you know,

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Speaker 2: I always had a positive mindset and an optimistic look

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Speaker 2: on things.

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Speaker 3: So so yeah, I really appreciate him.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember how many balls you caught that preseason

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Speaker 1: down in Tennessee?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'll like, you know, Matt, you always a four games

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Speaker 2: you think of, Yeah, yeah, for four games and played

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Speaker 2: a lot because Delaney Delaney was hurt. They had Craig

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Speaker 2: Stevens who was another great tight end, a great blocker

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Speaker 2: and a great guy. Yeah, so guys were playing I

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Speaker 2: what I do. Remember, I'll tell a funny story for

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Speaker 2: my first preseason. So I dropped a p I got

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Speaker 2: in with the ones because some couple of guys were hurt.

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Speaker 2: Dropped a shallow route from locker, like the first third

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Speaker 2: down of the game, like I was in with and

1133
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Speaker 2: I was like, my career is over. But what it

1134
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Speaker 2: did is I blocked my you know what off the

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Speaker 2: rest of the game. And when the Colts claimed me,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Grickson, you know, he watched that preseason game and said,

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Speaker 2: you know, we signed you because I saw the way

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00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: you blocked against you know, James Harrison was there and

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Speaker 2: you know the.

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Speaker 3: Way you play.

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00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, that's probably because I dropped a

1142
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: ball and was really teed off, right, And yeah, I

1143
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: gotta make it up. It made it up for it

1144
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Speaker 2: by blocking. So it's funny how it all works out.

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Speaker 2: But but yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: A little little little preseason going down memory lane. Jack

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00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: Doyle and his favorite non Colts teammates. I love it

1148
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: right there. That's you don't know Jack. We do know Jack.

1149
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna be back with us. We're gonna be doing

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00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: this podcast. It's kind of bi monthly here in the

1151
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: off season, all right, so you can't get rid of

1152
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: us that easy, but we'll be checking back in closer

1153
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Speaker 1: to you know, combined time and periodically before free agency,

1154
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Speaker 1: just kind of check points on what's going on with

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. Looking to get better here this offseason,

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Speaker 1: trying to erase the bad taste of the eight and

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Speaker 1: nine season. Here in two tenty twenty five, Jack, this

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Speaker 1: is this is this is a blast man.

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Speaker 3: I love done. Yeah, thanks Matt, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Jack Doyle, I'm Matt Taylor. Thank you for watching, Thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening. We'll be back soon here the Colts

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Speaker 1: podcast channel. So long, everybody,