1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football into the open field. 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna go. It is Monday, August. This is Jaguars 3 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Happy Hour, Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans. 4 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: And now a man whose unexpected retirement would go completely unnoticed. 5 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: J Peace shad Rick. I wouldn't get booed either. Welcommand 6 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour by Jet Home Loans. I get booed anyway. 7 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: You make it boot boot boom. We want to show 8 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: up J P. Jadrick. That's Jeff Lockerman. Tony Busellly Loggs 9 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: is in tonight for Pete Priscoe Peters in Kansas City 10 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: chasing an m v P quarterback. Interviewers told so, um, 11 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: thanks for sitting in tonight, lot sure if I mean, 12 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: holy cow, were you guys like me over the weekend stuff. 13 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: Here's what's going on in the show tonight. We'll get 14 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: to that in just a moment. Andrew Luck retiring and 15 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: obviously the huge news in the a f C South. 16 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: We'll get back to Josh Allen's performance. That's been the 17 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: talk of the town over the weekend. I think until 18 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: the Andrew Luck stuff. Some new defensive looks for this team. 19 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: Where the Jaguars offense stand after Week three of the preseason. 20 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: Some cuts coming up down the line. Doug Marone hates 21 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: this week, and we'll go around the National Football League 22 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: as well. Lots stick get to tonight, A jam pack program. 23 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: Busy weekend, busy and then actually wasn't that busy for 24 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: the Jags. And just I think the the whole I 25 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: mean the whole Andrew Luck thing, I think shook the 26 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: whole league. And then the controversy or the arguments about 27 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: whether he's right wrong and different timing wise, and then 28 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: the secondary thing, which is probably more important. This whole 29 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: organization is now wide open. The division becomes sort of 30 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: changes the look of the division because I thought the 31 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Colts were clearly the favorite after what they did last 32 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: year and the roster, and I still think it is 33 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: a very good roster. And and but with Andrew Luck, 34 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: I thought was the best quarterback, they were the favorite. 35 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: Him gone, It changes a lot of things, so a lot. 36 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: It was an interesting weekend. I didn't believe it. I 37 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: didn't believe it. I had a double check the tweet. 38 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: Just somebody had asked me the question what I thought 39 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: about Andrew Luck. And I'm like, what are you talking about? 40 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: Because I was at the it was the Bold Cities 41 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: Showcase b football games at Bowls and also somebody asking 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: me about, Hey, what do you think about Andrew Luck. 43 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I think he's a great quarterback. What 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: do you what do you mean? They're like, you just 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: announced her? There was announced was he's gonna retire like whatever? 46 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: And I just completely ignored it. And then I realized 47 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: that it was true, and I was shocked, shocked, but 48 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: I was like at that point, how still was like 49 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: let me I just want to hear it from his mouth. 50 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: And then when you saw the the video clip and 51 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: the and the fans that were booming them and everything, 52 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: You're like, come on on, I mean, the fans, it 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: was too much. It was disappointed that they did, but 54 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: he was the franchise. He was the franchise, and it 55 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, and you know, your first reaction, 56 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: it's the wrong reaction, but it's an emotional reaction because 57 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: they're tied to their organization. They want to win, and 58 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: so I'm not saying it's okay, but there I mean, 59 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure they woke up the next morning, We're probably 60 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: regretted a little bit, but at the time, everybody was 61 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: caught up in that moment that it's not how this 62 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: was supposed to go down. What we understand, he was 63 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: supposed to talk to the team and announce it the 64 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: next day at like three in the afternoon, and they 65 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: got leaked somehow, and that was not how it was 66 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be at all. Well, it was shocking, like 67 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Jeff said, But then if you as you look back 68 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: at the timeline, what has gone on. Something is not 69 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: right with his body, or how he is rehabbing it, 70 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: or his body is responding, or what is going on mentally, 71 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: like how he feels about the process, because I mean, 72 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: he got a calf. The story was it was a 73 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: caff injury in March April when he started coming back 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: to work out, that still got it. That then went 75 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: to a high ankle sprain and m R S. And 76 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: he has practiced twice since March and combining O t 77 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: AS in camp. So something was off. And you know 78 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: this is after coming missing seventeen because of the shoulder, 79 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: So his body is not responding. And I think mentally, 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: if you listen to what he said, he just couldn't 81 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: do anymore. And it's not just a season process, it's 82 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: a year round process. But here's the thing. I want 83 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: to say something because a lot of guys go through that. Listen, 84 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: rehabs a year round thing. Playing the NFL is a 85 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: year round and so what it told me, and this 86 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: is okay, I'm not being critical, it's fine, is that 87 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: he fell in love out of love with football or 88 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: and because the love of the game and what you 89 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: do has to be high enough to deal with all 90 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: the stuff that goes into being able to play. And 91 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: some point it's shifted where the pain in the rehab 92 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: and the mental the mental anguish and all the things 93 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: that go into doing your job as a professional athlete 94 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL and as a quarterback, that got bigger 95 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: than how he felt about the game. And I want 96 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: to clarify something. Tony's not saying he doesn't love the game, 97 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: but the pain and the discomfort and the bad feelings 98 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: exceed the level of love that you have. He fell out, 99 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: But that's falling out of love with it. It's not. 100 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: That's not negative, it's not doesn't make like I heard 101 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: read things. Though he's soft, he's not watch Andrew Luck play, 102 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: he's anything but soft. Remember one year in my career 103 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: that that I was close to where he was at. 104 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: And it was the year before I came here, and 105 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: I had a shoulder that I was playing with that 106 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 1: needed reconstructing. I had torn pcl in my left knee. 107 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: I never missed a game, But playing like that and 108 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: living like that on a week to week basis, that's 109 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: no fun. No fun. And at the end of the season, 110 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: you have rehab and then you're like, you start feeling 111 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: better and you start feeling better about where you're gonna 112 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: be at. But I mean, imagine Andrew Luck where he 113 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: went through the rehab process for a couple of years 114 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: with his shoulder and and now he has an issue 115 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: that crops up with his with his leg and it's 116 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: not getting better. I mean, that's got to be emotional trainings. 117 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: And here here's the other reality. The reality is in 118 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: the National Football League and today than today's game. After 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: seven years in the National Football League, he has made generational, 120 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: life changing money. That's a fact. He's made more than 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars in his seven years in the 122 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: National Football And the in the clubs isn't going to 123 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: take back the twenty four that they could take. So 124 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: does does that factor in? Yeah, I mean it looks, 125 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: but that's why. But Jeff, that's why to where you 126 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: can say, look, I'm done. Yeah, but here's but this 127 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: is why I think he fell in love with out 128 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: of love with the game. Because there's a lot of 129 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: guys that rehab year around. There's a lot of guys 130 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: who deal with to enguish. There's a lot of guys 131 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: in this league and make a lot of money and 132 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: they continue to do it. Why Because they love the game. 133 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: That's what they love. That's I mean the past. Some 134 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: guys love the game, Tony. Some guys love the money 135 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: and something. Some guys love everything that comes along with it. 136 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: But my point is, but there's, like I got asked, 137 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: so this is gonna be something you're gonna see more 138 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: and more of because of all the money these guys make. 139 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it is. You're gonna have it every 140 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: once in a while. I mean I remember it was 141 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: like four or five years ago the linebacker for the 142 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: forty Niners starter can't remember his name, and he had 143 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: a couple of concussions and he retired out of the blue. 144 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: When he was in the midst of his career, and 145 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh my gosh, CT and concussion scares, and 146 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna have all these guys he was draft pick, 147 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: like second year, everyone's gonna start retiring because of the fear. 148 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: It's just me a trend. It's hasn't happened since. And 149 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is Andrew Luck and he is a guy 150 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: that wanted to do other things more than play the 151 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: game of football. But every guy in the NFL goes 152 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: through a process of the physical toll and the mental 153 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: all on their bodies. And I appreciate the fact that 154 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: he was raised right and he didn't have his identity 155 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: solely attached to football, and he was able to make 156 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: a decision for himself. Good for him, Well, the only 157 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: thing they would have been and I agree with you. 158 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: And the other reason I'll say that, obviously something where 159 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: the game just lost its luster is because he very 160 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: easily could have gone on I R and they offered 161 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: it to him, or he could have taken another eight 162 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: or nine weeks, no pressure of getting back, take your time, 163 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: get healthy and and come back for the end. And 164 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: he didn't even want to do that, So he was 165 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: done mentally, he was finished playing football and he couldn't 166 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: do it anymore. And if you know that, you don't 167 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: need to go out and you don't need to continue. 168 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: And so that's where I actually I with Jeb. I 169 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: respect the fact that he knew he was done. He 170 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: couldn't do it anymore. He couldn't drive himself mentally and 171 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: physically to get ready to play a game because he 172 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: didn't love it enough anymore. And that's not a criticism, 173 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: that's just a fact. The only the only thing that 174 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: I've heard people say the frustration isn't and it's fair 175 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: enough is why did he wait till the very right 176 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: before the season to do it and put the organization 177 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: in the position that he did. My point that is, 178 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: if you'd if you'd done it right before training camp, 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: what's different. They're not finding another quarterback, They're not going 180 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: here here. Here's the reality. Though he probably didn't come 181 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: to that conclusion until he actually made the decision and 182 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: called the team right, you know, I mean, looks sometimes 183 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: things happen like that, you know, in an off season. 184 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure that he's like, oh, this is okay, because 185 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: he actually said that the season was one of the 186 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: most rewarding seasons he's ever had. So we obviously he 187 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: had fun the year and then to go back into 188 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: that Uh, I don't think he called like a dark 189 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: place of that cycle. I mean it was just too 190 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: much for him whatever. I mean. Look here, here's the thing, 191 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: what he has said. I take for exactly what has said. 192 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't read anything into it. I don't try to 193 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: decipher anything out of it because I don't get the 194 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: impression that what Andrew Luck tells you and what is 195 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: reality are two different things. I believe that he's a 196 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: totally honest guy and he's up front. Doug Maron asked 197 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: about this yesterday, in fact, that his press conference at 198 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: the start of the practice week and an opposing head 199 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: coach in the division thinking about the other team's quarterback. 200 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: I know how difficult it is, I know how difficult 201 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: this game is. I don't know how great, great of 202 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: a competitor is. So um, I felt it was unfortunate. 203 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: You know that, you know, injuries or you know, take 204 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: a part of it, and I'm sure it must have 205 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: been very very difficult for him. Um, just just a 206 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: loss for the game. There's Doug Marone with you know 207 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: what a quote there that kind of summed it up 208 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: pretty easy. I think right there, and it is. It 209 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: is because he's a really good football, great football player, 210 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: great quarterback. UM loved his competitive nature, everything about it 211 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: about him, and he played hard. Everything you read, he 212 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: was a great teammate and everything. Obviously just a smart guy, 213 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: did it right. Here's the reality. The game goes on. 214 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: That's right. I mean, this is not I mean it's 215 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: a shock now, but nobody's gonna be thinking about it 216 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: week one. Jacoby Brissette is not worried about this when 217 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: he lines up, Nobody, the players and the coaches are 218 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: going to be thinking about it. But but look, this 219 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: is this is one of the I would say, the 220 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: most notable early retirements from the NFL in NFL history. 221 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: Bigger than Jim Brown, and he's right up there, bigger 222 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders right up there. Just so you know, both 223 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: of those guys are Hall of famers. He's not going 224 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. I still say that this 225 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: is right up. I mean it's big. You're talking about 226 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback and his prime play for our ten years. 227 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, it's as big as those guys. I'm saying, 228 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: but it's not everyone's it's the biggest because it's happening 229 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: to us now. Ten years from now, it will still 230 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: be ranked right up there, will be ranked up there. 231 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: But to say it's the biggest ever is who said biggest? 232 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: Said the quote? You said biggest. There you go again, 233 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: playing them wax out of your Earry Sanders was a 234 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: big one. That's the one I remember when I was 235 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: he was a big one. There's no said. I didn't 236 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: mean biggest, said it as one of the biggest. Absolutely, 237 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: it's a it's a huge, biggest, absolute franchise quarterback, one 238 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the NFL when he was healthy, 239 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: top five quarterback probably and decided to hang it up. 240 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: He was a big deal. And he was seven and 241 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: three against the Jaguars. Here's here's the other thing that 242 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: makes it big. I mean from a from a financial standpoint, 243 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy that's walked away from ballpark 244 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: of three hundred million. Yeah, two to three for sure. 245 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Let me think about it. I mean, guys made a 246 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: hundred three million, and if he had ten more years 247 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: of playing in the National Football League, his earnings would 248 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: have probably been two the minimum going up minimum two 249 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: other things. I mean, I mean, look, I mean that 250 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: that's that's that's the reality. So I think it that 251 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: that makes it pretty big huge. Yeah, We've got plenty 252 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: to get to on the program, will discuss the rest 253 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: of the a f C South changes that changes in 254 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: the division. Only that there was some other news from 255 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: some other teams. 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Um, and that you know is emotional 321 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: in itself. UM, so that's a good first step forward. Um. 322 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: We're able to, you know, move the ball a little bit, 323 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: score a touchdown. Obviously we want to score more points, 324 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: and you know, there's things that we'll learn from. But 325 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: all in all, it was great just being out there 326 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: with the guys today Nick Foles you might have heard 327 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: of him, Jaguars quarterback after the game Thursday night in Miami, 328 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Our presented by Jet Home Loans, 329 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: j P Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Jeff Logoman, and Tonight for 330 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: Pete Prisco. He's in Kansas City chasing mahomes around, so 331 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: he need he needs the extra time to chase him 332 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: around apparently. So that's okay. Hey, it's a big story. 333 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: So hopefully Pete can get a little inside scoop that 334 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: we could use. That's not his job, I don't think, right, 335 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: No matter if it's his job or not, still steal stuff. Ok, 336 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: that's he's a neutral guy, allegedly, right he is? Yeah, yeah, 337 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: I think he's pretty pretty coming up before we go. 338 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you got this board here, Jeff, Yeah, 339 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking at what about the game in Atlanta. You 340 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: have a lot of names on here you don't really need. 341 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: They're really a waste of time. Like you put a 342 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: lot of work into this, it's a waste. I'm not 343 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: sure why you have Clay's Campbell's name on the board. 344 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 1: So for those on radio, he's gonna play that has 345 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: a depth chart of defense on one team and offense 346 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: and the other team. Ryan, No, No, I didn't need 347 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: to put it on there. Woh yeah he might play 348 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 1: you think we're see Julio. Yeah, I mean this is 349 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: what a waste. This was just the second and just 350 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: use the boards a more room, right About the guys 351 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: that aren't gonna make the team there on game night, 352 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: I think it's I think I will say this real 353 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: quick about the last preseason game. For for the guys 354 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: that are playing, that's got to be a bad feeling. 355 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: The don't let me forget let me say this about it. 356 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: It's a bad feeling from standpoint of if you're playing, No, 357 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: you're on the bubble, you're on the bubble at best, 358 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: more than likely you're not gonna make it. If you're sitting, 359 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: you're on the team based. But then at the same token, 360 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: you want to play your best because this is people 361 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: are watching, yeah, that somebody else might see. So it's 362 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: gotta be kind of bitter sweet for the guys that 363 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: are playing in this fourth preseason game. You know so, 364 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: but look, God bless him. I hope that they play well. 365 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: I hope they make a team somewhere what it's about, 366 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: just talking. We'll hear from some of the guys that 367 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: are kind of on the bubble in the locker room yesterday. 368 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: In fact, coming up a little later on the program tonight, 369 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: we'll get to Josh Allen coming up a little bit 370 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: later and his night with some reaction to that. Yeah, 371 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: we called the postgame the overreaction hour, but it was. 372 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: It was a nice night for him. We'll get to 373 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: that coming up. Offense. Just heard from the quarterback. What 374 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: do you guys stand on on the offense now? After 375 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: the four drives you saw the other night, are you 376 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: more less or the same amount of comfortable with what 377 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: this Jags offense is going to be? You wanna go first? 378 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: I'm not more. I'm I'm just I'm not at the 379 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: same point like I'm waiting. I'm waiting to see. I'm 380 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: waiting to see as well. Yeah, I'm like, that didn't do. 381 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: He had two three interception the play drive that was 382 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: aided by penalties, and the running game still looks not 383 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: very good to me. Now. The funny thing is, you 384 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: go back to seventeen Jeff and I said this team 385 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: is not gonna able to run the ball. The run 386 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: game stinks there. Their offensive lines really struggling because that's 387 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: in seventeen. They couldn't move it an inch and they 388 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: had the starters aft the whole time. And then they 389 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: go to Houston and literally Pound crushed them and ended 390 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: up having a very good rushing year as a team. Um. 391 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: And so you never want to read too much into 392 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: the preseason, so I'm not going to. But that didn't 393 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: do much for me on Thursday night. And that's a 394 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: that's a young, young Dolphins defense that's not viewed as 395 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: one of the top it's a bad defense. So uh. 396 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: And they were missing some starters on defense, so uh, 397 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: it was good to see and it was good to 398 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: see the starters get out there and play a little bit. 399 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: And it was even better to see that nobody got 400 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: hurt for the most part, so that that was a positive. Yeah, 401 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: dj Um, but I think he's gonna be okay. I 402 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: mean he's and I haven't have they said anything about him, 403 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: by the way, CUSSI protocol, I mean nothing about the 404 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: kneed and they don't have to say anything about it. Not. 405 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: The only thing they said was protocol at the game, 406 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: So there wasn't had nothing because they haven't I mean nothing. 407 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: At this point of the preseason, you're not going to 408 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: talk about injuries unless you have to, because now you're 409 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: starting to get to get close to the games when 410 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: they count, so you're gonna be pretty close to the 411 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: vest with the information that you have. So but I mean, 412 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: it didn't look like a need to me. It was 413 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: just like he just his mind and his feet weren't 414 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: working together. And then he got at the beginning kind 415 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: and it wasn't he just stopped for whatever I did 416 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: for looked to you, guys, I thought he looked I 417 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: thought he I thought he looked good once he kind 418 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: of got out of that, because I think there's an 419 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: adjustment period when you go into the preseason game because 420 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: you're you're a practice speed and then you have to 421 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: kind of re learn the tempo and the speed of 422 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: a real game. And I thought that once he kind 423 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: of got going to the tempo, I thought he was 424 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: really good. The first couple series wasn't so good. I'd 425 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: like to see him catch that one ball that he 426 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: had an opportunity in the flat and I know that 427 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: you know there was a defender that was right there, 428 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: but it would have been a one on one opportunity 429 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: and also, look, he could have made the guy miss 430 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: and maybe have gotten the first down. I don't know, 431 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: but I thought he looked solid. I thought he looks solid. 432 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: One he did get out there in the in the past, 433 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: in the flat, he made nice contact with the guy, 434 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: knocked him down, got an extra five years or so. Yeah. 435 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean that was when you could kind of tell 436 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: that look, Okay, now it's game speed and he's bringing it. 437 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: I thought the offensive line got better as the game progressed. 438 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: Wasn't good enough, No, I don't think it was good enough. 439 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: I thought that John Taylor, who had I want to say, 440 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: like nineteen snaps somewhere in that range, because he was 441 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: out there with the ones, he might have even had 442 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: more than that. He had a little deeper. He he 443 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: went second, he went all the way, and he had 444 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: twenty thirty seven snaps. I thought he was okay, But 445 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: there are some things that he needs to do with 446 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: his hands to to be better. He lets his hands 447 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: get outside sometimes. And I hate to say this, I 448 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: thought Cam Robinson had a solid night, but he also 449 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: had this one play where I saw him extend that 450 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: leg out again, which was kind of a footwork a 451 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: footwork issue last year. Um. I don't know Tony if 452 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: you saw it or not, but it was one play 453 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: in particularly kind of he started to round his set 454 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: instead of continued to kiss. Very good. I talked about 455 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: to The game really opened up quickly. We had six plays. Um, 456 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: I don't how do you feel about it when you 457 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: talked to him? Good? He felt good? Physically great? Yeah, 458 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: physically looks good. He felt good. Physical not very good 459 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: in the game. Um, I thought you want Taylor played 460 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: great for his first game. You gotta keep it in 461 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,239 Speaker 1: perspective here. I mean, jess right, these things to work with, 462 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: but as far as doing your job, all as far 463 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: as doing your job blocking people strong, he did a 464 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: great job. Strong. I thought will richardon't take the two 465 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: uh false steps, starts away what you can't do. I mean, 466 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: obviously that's part of it. I thought he was okay. 467 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: I think he's better than a j can right now. 468 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: I think there's more upside. I think they're even. I 469 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: think you go with the more upside. But it wasn't 470 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: nearly as good as the previous week with with Will Richardson. 471 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: That's a fact. But he's physical, he's big, he's athletic. 472 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: He gets his back flat, which means he moves people. 473 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: Um put him him and Joanna on the same side. 474 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: That two big strong road traders. Now, so I like that. 475 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if you know he's starting. But 476 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: here here's I think the the tight end position concerns 477 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: and Jeff Swain was back in the practice that we 478 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: haven't seen any tight ends that are gonna be on 479 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: the active rock. You understand. I mean that's the problems 480 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: because it's not like there's no doubt. It's not like 481 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: you have Tony Gonsolz and Shandon's sharp you know, off 482 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: to the side way didn't block anybody all he was 483 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: catch past. Okay, you don't want either, but Gronk, yeah, 484 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: I'll take wrong or you don't want Oh no, I 485 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: just I don't want a Hall of Famer. Yeah no, 486 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't want other Hall of Famer. But but I 487 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be interesting to see what happens against 488 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: Kent's City on what is that September eight at the 489 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: right guard position, because you know, with a Juwan Taylor 490 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: at right tackle, there's a rookie. Do you feel better 491 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: about having an A j Can who has a lot 492 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: of games under his belt now in his fifth season, 493 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: beside him, or do you go you know what, let's 494 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: go with Will Richardson, who is in his first rookie 495 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: you don't have any experience. Let me grow together kind 496 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: of well, I mean, let him grow together as one 497 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: idea or the other thing is, hey, look we've got 498 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: a rookie. Let's get some experience next to our rookie 499 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: right tackle and you feel a little bit more comfortable 500 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: in that safe zone with a j King. I don't 501 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: put the best guys out there, put your best five 502 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: out there. But it's an inner, resting debate. I'm with 503 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: Tony went I'm with Tony. The idea is to be 504 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: at your best by the time you get in the playoffs. 505 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you want to get in the playoffs, 506 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: but the roof is higher, the ceiling is higher with 507 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 1: Whereward Richardson. In my opinion, all right, you have at 508 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: the offensive. Look at last Thursday's game. We're back in 509 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: a moment and the big story of the game. Last 510 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: week on defense, Josh Allen made his Jaguars debut. Will 511 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: get to that when we come back. Join us for 512 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: a moment twenty five years in the making. Do you 513 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: remember where you were for friends ninety yard run? Guys, 514 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: we're in the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, I was in the 515 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: hospital bed. That's not good. I was in a booth, 516 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: that's right. How about Jalen's playoff pick? You were both 517 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: in the booth. Yes, those are two great moments. 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I'd say that, but uh, you know, 574 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: I felt better. You know today me Flas had a 575 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: long top before and he definitely had my mind and 576 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: thinking about what I need to do and how I 577 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: need to do it. So um so lose to him 578 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: and a Monna sline talking to me too, So you know, 579 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: it was a good day to day. Josh Allen in 580 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: the locker room in Miami after his fantastic first half 581 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: of the Jaguars and preseason Week three Welcome Back Jaguars 582 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. We'll find out 583 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: tonight if he can throw strikes or not. He's throw 584 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: in the first pitch of the Jumbo Shrimp game tonight. Awesome, 585 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: They're playing the Mobile BayBears tonight. You done that throughout 586 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: a first pitch? I did one time no, no, no, 587 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: not the Jumbo Shrimp Hill was a high school game. 588 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: I did the Jumbo Shrimp. I bounced it to the 589 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: plate by the Yeah I did it. Yeah, so I 590 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: did at the Jumbo Shrimp back then there with the suns. 591 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: Now the jumper. Is that your bad shoulder? You're right arm, 592 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: it's my left. I wouldn't have gone. I wouldn't even 593 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 1: showing up and uh the U. So you get there 594 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 1: and they and JP. You know this because so they 595 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: tell you can throw like five steps in front of 596 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: the mound. I can't do that, can't do that. You're 597 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: there to know. They said, they said here throw um here. 598 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: I said, there's not a chance you got going to 599 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: the rubbers. Yeah, I did the whole thing. Strike Get 600 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: out of here. Give me my word. How hard was it? 601 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean it was was not lollipop. It was on 602 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: a line. Really, but I would say sixty maybe. I 603 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: mean it was, it was gonna be. It was. They'd 604 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: been practicing for a while. I'm throwing a baseball for 605 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: years and but I mean I grew up playing baseball 606 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: and pitched and uh junior high. My right shoulders the 607 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: one I had reconstructed. Yeah, twice even did it. I 608 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: had to try try and I said, I was like you, 609 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: They're like, you can screwt up a little bit. I'm like, 610 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I'm going for the man. I 611 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: would rather bounce it or roll it to the plate 612 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: than they didn't screw it up, and I bounced it, 613 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: So I was I was quite content with it to 614 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: be sixty six inches. Let's go. Is that what it is? 615 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: A strike? That was what at the first base ninety Okay, 616 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: that's what you say. Say clarify this. When I say 617 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: a strike, the catcher did not have to get out 618 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: of his stance to catch it. That's good. Yeah, that's 619 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,239 Speaker 1: a strike. I mean, I don't like it was an 620 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: actual call that it's a strike. If they swing at 621 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: it to that can miss. There's that's one thing. Man, 622 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: you don't realize this is not I'd like to see 623 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: that Josh Allen tonight seven five. But Jeff sitting on 624 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: that mound and throwing it thinking there's a batter. They're 625 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: swinging as hard as you can. I mean, those guys 626 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: you gotta have some You actually have to, you know, 627 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: not to be tough. You just have to have no 628 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: brain or thought that that ball can come back and 629 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: hit you. Because if you're thinking about that, you can't throw. 630 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: You're done, you have the yips. You can't throw. It's 631 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: like they just have to that's an actual issue. Yeah, 632 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: they just have to block that stuff out. I mean 633 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: I assume that they don't. You got a good pitcher. 634 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: Is that way you don't get hit? Well, it doesn't 635 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: matter majorly. Hitters are coming back at you one way. 636 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: Sooner laterbody who's been hit by a comebacker before, and 637 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: that is a real mental hurdle to come back from 638 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: for some guys. Yes, sooner or later, it's coming up. 639 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: It's coming right back at you. So, Josh Allen, that 640 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: was the whole genesis of that conversation. Tonight throw the 641 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: first pitch of the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp against the Mobile 642 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: Bay Bears seven O five the first pitch time tonight 643 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: Um because the biggest overreaction in the preseason I can remember. 644 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: You think he had a great first half to Okay, 645 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: we go over what he did. He had a couple 646 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: of tackles for loss, hit the quarterback twice, two of them, 647 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: what four tackles to total tackles. UM was in around 648 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: almost a lot of the place most of the plays, 649 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: I would say, And he was physically uh uh powerful 650 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: against the run. Yeah, I thought he was stout when 651 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: when you did, when the announcer didn't call his name, 652 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: he looked good. So I thought he played very well. 653 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: And I think Josh Allen's gonna be a fabulous football player. 654 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: I really do. I think. I think it's a great pick. 655 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: I've said it all along. I still think he has 656 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: a ways to go as a pass rusher. Um, he's 657 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: not as like when you and I when Unique came 658 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: in here, he was more finished as a pass rusher, 659 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: would you not agree, Jeff? And he was eight with 660 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: his hand use and like from Yeah, Josh Allen is 661 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: a physic I'm not talking about but I'm talking hand 662 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: us and moves and everything else like that. Josh Allen 663 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: needs to continue to progress there. He's gonna be fabulous. 664 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: The offensive line the Dolphins is the worst in the NFL, 665 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: and the tackles he was playing against are atrocious. The 666 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: first play that didn't even block him. Yeah, And so 667 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from it. Was a great night, 668 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: and I think Josh Allen is going to be a 669 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: outstanding player maybe has an opportunity to be rookie defensive 670 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: Rookie of the year, you know, based on his just 671 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 1: pure physical ability in his in his uh, his knack 672 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: to be around the ball. But you want to take 673 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: a big deep breath. I mean you if you listen 674 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: to Twitter and some of the reaction from the local 675 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: media like let's put him in like all Pro Hall 676 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 1: of Fame, Like he's like the greatest player on defense, 677 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: is going to like all the studd like all of 678 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: the sudden, it's like LT. So we have LT on 679 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: the field. I'm like, well, well, wait back up a second. 680 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: The kids a rookie learning, let's not set I don't 681 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: want to set these unreal expectations. And he gets into 682 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: the regular season and and like a lot of rookie 683 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: starts a little slow. So all you're saying is, let's 684 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: not give our let's you know, not give ourselves a 685 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: speeding ticket. Okay, but you're still excited about it because 686 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: you were kind of starting to shave my blood. No, no, no, not. 687 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: I think Josh I'd said this from the beginning. I 688 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: love the pick. I love watching practice. He's a physical specimen. 689 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: If he continues to work in like he does because 690 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: he listens to the veterans, he's working at his craft, 691 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 1: and he continues to do that and gets a couple 692 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: of pass rushing moves, the guys would be very very good. Yeah, 693 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: he'shouna be outstanding. But I'm like, let's I'm not in 694 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: the opinion that he needs to find pass rushing moves. 695 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they'll come with time, the ones 696 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: that where he has a patent move, but his his 697 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: pass rushes speed and also the ability to bend, spin 698 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: and then work either side of the tackle. Does he 699 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: have a patent and move like in gock Way right now? No? No, 700 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: My point is he needs how to use the speed 701 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: and then go speed to power. If he just does that, 702 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about he has to become like the 703 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: you know, figure out how he's gonna spinning like von 704 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: Miller or or get that you know, hump move like 705 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: Greggy White or Unique. I think he could hands all 706 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: of the moves at some point. Got that kind of 707 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: test saying right now, learn to have a game plan, 708 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: which he's progressing of going in using your speed and 709 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: go speed to power. You're gonna give up most tackles 710 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: in this League Trouble. I was excited to see the 711 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: very first snap where they went to a three four. 712 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: That was the first player of the game, right, first 713 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: player of the game, first play of the game, and 714 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: it was kind of it was kind of weird because 715 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: they started out with leon Jacob's out there, which by 716 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: the way, they ran three four with leon Jacob's out 717 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: there too, but the very first play they had leon 718 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: Jacobs out there, and then they run him off the field. 719 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm going, what are they doing? Or do they set? 720 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: And then I saw Josh Allen running out there, and 721 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: I was going, wait a minute, They're not subbing to Nickel, 722 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: so what are they doing? And then that's why I 723 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: was playing attention to the lineup and I was like, 724 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's a three four, and so what 725 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: they essentially do when they go to a three four 726 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: number one, You're getting one of your best players on 727 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: the field, which is Josh Allen, at the same time 728 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: as you have another one of your best players on 729 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: the field same time, which is Yanique and Gockway. And 730 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: and Gockway from what it looked like, played the sam 731 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: outside linebacker and then Josh Allen played what would be 732 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: the Will outside linebacker on the three four Either that 733 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: or they're just playing left and right because the right 734 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: side better. Yeah, so you don't know because Jan was 735 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: on John was on the left side. I thought he 736 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: was on the right now, and when he went three 737 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: four he was on the left side, which is so 738 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: they're playing Sam and Will. They're not playing left and right, 739 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: which in r which they probably could play left and 740 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 1: right if they wanted to, which would make some sense. 741 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: I would the right every time because it's a better 742 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: past n a better pass rush on the right side. 743 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: Tony's right on that. So but it was cool. I 744 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: think they had maybe four, maybe five snaps of of 745 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: what I would call three four defense if they only 746 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: did it once with those guys right now, they did it, 747 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: uh twice with in Gockway and Josh Allen as the 748 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: outside backers, and then they did it another two times 749 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: with Leon. Yeah, I knew that, so twice twice there 750 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: there was four four that I counted in the game 751 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: of true what I thought were snapping against twelve or 752 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: twenty one personnel, So against base package back wasn't It 753 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: wasn't any sub or anything like that. Now, when they 754 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: went to sub, which is their nickel package, and a 755 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: lot of people at at times we're thinking that it 756 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: was a three or four, but it's the stand up package. 757 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: It's a spinner, you know, where he's the what I 758 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: always call Lawrence Taylor made it famous back in the 759 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: day when he would stand up and rush from anywhere, 760 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 1: walk around, and that's kind of what in Gockway does. 761 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes they have you know, Klaius and Josh Allen down 762 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: and then Marcel or a. Brien as the nose tackle, 763 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: and then Yahn's walking around and rushing you like I actually, 764 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: you don't like you on at that position as much effective, 765 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm with you. But at the one time 766 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 1: that they did have him, that was when Josh Allen 767 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: came free underneath and got a hit on the quarterback. 768 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: That's free a little bit of a game. So I 769 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: like it, but it's not something that doesn't need to 770 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: be your staple for Yannick and Gockway in my opinion, 771 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: in that three four and Gockway Allan on the outside, 772 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: Avery in the middle Klaius and it would have been 773 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: Marcel Darius correct, but it was Taven and then in 774 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: that game that's right, that's pretty good vibe right there. Look, 775 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: you're getting the best, You're getting your best players on 776 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: the field. And during the game they played a lot 777 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: of man coverage with that. Uh are they gonna do 778 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: other things out of that? Shure? They can. They can 779 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: do whatever they want out of that because in Gockway 780 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: and and Josh Allen can drop the coverage. As you 781 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: could see from watching Josh Allen make that tackle out 782 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: in space on the flat throw when it was a 783 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: fire zone when they were running a four three fire zone, 784 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: which is one of more impressive plays still one talks about. 785 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 1: It's like unblocked hits to the quarterback or unblocked tackle 786 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: for a loss. Those are like great. I mean every 787 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: good player gets unblocked at times, and they got You 788 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: gotta capitalize because not all guys can't evenhen they're nblocked. 789 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: What was most impressive at twitter and seventy pounds of 790 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: operating in space and making the open field tackle in 791 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: the athletic ability that I saw on that play that 792 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: was more impressive than anything else. Let me add something 793 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: that play, what I thought was as as impressive as 794 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: the athletic ability. When he's lining up, he's in a 795 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: two point stands and he he looks like he's coming, 796 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: and he also takes a peek to the outside before 797 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: the snap, and he's going to get an idea of 798 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: the lay of the land. That little peak allowed him 799 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: to know that there was traffic coming. So when he 800 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: has to drop, the back is flaring out of the 801 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: backfield and then he has to get to the flat 802 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: to cover him. Well, there was a wide receiver in 803 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: Trey Herndon that were there, but he knew that he 804 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: would have to get cleaned by them to avoid them 805 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: to get to the flat to make that play. But 806 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: to have the awareness of getting clean by that to 807 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: get to the flat to make that tackle, which shows 808 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: the athleticism I thought was was great as yeah, because 809 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: when you when you add there was a lot of 810 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: In fact, early my career there was a guy I'm 811 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: not I'm not going to name his name, but he 812 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: had so much athleticism and talent it was unbelievable, but 813 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: he had no awareness and so pretty limited. If the 814 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: guy had awareness, he i would have never gotten a 815 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: starting job my rookie year. And uh, but that's good 816 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: to see out of out of him because that's typically 817 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: something that a player doesn't get until a few years 818 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 1: down the road. Well, sometimes they never get it, that's right, 819 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: And I think that's that's all part of the conversation 820 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: we're having about Tavid awareness awareness awareness, right, I mean, 821 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, does he have it? Well, we got to 822 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: see what else on defense stood out we're talking about 823 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 1: Tavin actually that the two penalties were bad, I mean bad. 824 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's just being smart, and that that 825 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: was not smart football. And you know, obviously it's a 826 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: reaction to the criticism that he's been under or the 827 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: pressure that he feels because you know, he had the 828 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: interview last week and he was talking about how you know, 829 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: you're going to see more of the real me and 830 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: all this, and well, I hope that's not more of 831 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: the real him getting the penalties. And it's a shame 832 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: tony because one of the penalties that he had had 833 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: a great move, I mean power move, grabs a guard, throws, 834 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: pushes him back, pulls him forward and does a pull 835 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: rip swim and gets by him and then he chases 836 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: down the quarterback and it hits him and it was clear. 837 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't like, oh, I'm not sure the ball was gone. 838 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: It was right in front of him and he still 839 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: that's when he took like two or three steps and 840 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: he and he pushed Fitzgerald and he falls down the 841 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: great Patrick independalty Fitzpatrick and in the penalty comes out. 842 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that was not a smart play. That 843 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 1: that can't happen. It's a concern for me the depth 844 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: of the defensive line and at the three technique. Marcel 845 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: Darius has been out with an injury. Um, he I 846 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: believe it. I read the report today. Didn't practice today again, 847 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: So he's not gonna play this week, which is fine. 848 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: You didn't expect him anyways. But if Martin cel Darius 849 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 1: isn't ready, you're starting Tavin Bryant. And I don't know 850 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: about Jeff, but there's not a lot that I've seen 851 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: this camp that gives me a lot of confidence that 852 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: the consistency's gonna be there. Um, with him starting as 853 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: your three technique, it needs to be better. I mean, 854 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: there's no doubt in easy. How do you feel, I mean, Jeff, 855 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: if you're going to the season with Tavin Bryan's you're 856 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: starting three on this defense, I'm not I'm not freaked out, 857 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: but I'm not happy. I can tell you that because 858 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: Marcel Darius is a very aware, big, strong guy, whereas 859 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: Tavin's still he's still trying to learn that stuff and 860 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: and to go with Tony said, hopefully this is something 861 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: that he does learn. Doug Maron asked about Tavin Bryant 862 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: and if he took a step back in the game 863 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,919 Speaker 1: on Thursday night. Here's due response. You just gotta fight, 864 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one thing. And if you don't, 865 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 1: you know, if you give up on yourself, will health 866 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: How's how's anyone else going to really? Um, you know, 867 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,439 Speaker 1: keep you along. So you know, Tavin's you know, he's 868 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: he's had a set back. Um, he's probably disappointed, you know, 869 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: but hey, he's gotta you know, get his mind right 870 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 1: and go because there was some things he was doing 871 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: earlier that that we're really exciting and really would really 872 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 1: be able to help our football team. So uh, and 873 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 1: that's what he wants to do. So, you know, strap 874 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: it up and get your rest out there and go play. 875 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: It doesn't really sound like it doesn't really sound like 876 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: a message from the head coach. It's like overly endorsing. 877 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 1: It's a far cry from what he said after the 878 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: first preseason game. I can tell you that sure he was. 879 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,439 Speaker 1: He was talking about after that first games my point, 880 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: which I thought, yes, thank you, but do you have it? 881 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: I just think you talk. We talked about the stakes 882 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: and talked about awareness. We talked about be on the 883 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: big plays. I mean, Tavin Bryant is a maybe the 884 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 1: strongest guy on the team, UM, A physical, tough, all 885 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: those things, but the instincts of awareness to make plays 886 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: we have not seen. And you talk to people that 887 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: watched him with Florida, they said the same thing. That 888 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 1: was like the knock coming out right. I mean, Jeff, 889 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 1: you watched the tape. He was always close, always close. 890 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:32,879 Speaker 1: And so now if that's without more subdarious um, I mean, 891 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: he's your starting three and your depth isn't real good there. 892 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,439 Speaker 1: Let's come back. We'll touch on special teams standouts when 893 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: we come back. 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You know, Um, anytime a guy 958 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: that's basically you know, just playing special teams not getting 959 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: a lot of work on offense. Uh, you know, it's 960 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: a it's a balance that has to be you know, 961 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: gone over and everybody's gotta understand how many players he 962 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: can get all those type of things. And you know 963 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: coach Maron does a great job of that. He he 964 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: communicates with us well. And this philosophy is he if 965 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: a guy is a starter and he's a good special 966 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: teams player, let's put him out there. Joe dick camillis 967 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: special teams coordinator. Talk to him today. You'll hear the 968 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: full interview coming up on the Public Stailgate Show. That's Thursday. 969 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: Lets the games at seven and so we're on at 970 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 1: four with the Public Tailgate Show Thursday ahead of the 971 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 1: Jags and the Falcons here at t i A Bank Field. 972 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm good to visit with Joe, of course. Yeah, he's 973 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: he's uh, one of the one of the best special 974 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 1: teams coaches I think in the National Football League and 975 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: does a really good job and it's been for thirty years. Well, 976 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 1: in this game that's coming up on Thursday night, there's 977 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: a lot of evaluation that's going to be going on 978 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 1: in his department to determine whether or not guys are 979 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: gonna make the team or not. It's a lot of 980 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:33,280 Speaker 1: chaos two for him. Yeah, ninety man roster, you probably 981 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: have seventy that are available for special teams. Yeah, and like, like, 982 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: let's be honest, they're gonna have fifty three guys. We're 983 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 1: keeping nine on Price squad at least half of those 984 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: who come from other teams. Let's say three or four, 985 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: let's say between Francis Squad and the other. Um, you're 986 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: gonna have eight guys from other teams come, So that 987 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 1: leaves you at fifty five guys out of the ninety 988 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: are gonna make it that are out there right now. 989 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: That's forty five guys are gonna be accountants and you know, 990 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: and lawyers and other things. I mean. But my point 991 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: is not in the NFL come Saturday, and those are 992 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: the guys that Jody Camillis and the rest of this 993 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: group has to coach up. And special teams is always 994 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: the hardest because it's moving and it's a lot of 995 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 1: rotation and it's not uh substitution like is in a rhythm, 996 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: like offensive defense because you go out there for a 997 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: series and you kind of have your plan. It's like 998 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: sudden all right, punting, like this guy's down or this 999 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 1: guy's out, Like who okay, who's that gunner. There's gonna 1000 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: be a lot of tired guys in the game on 1001 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: Thursday night because of the amount of guys that won't play. 1002 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: Leave the guys that will be playing. They've got to 1003 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: play on defense or all offense, and they gotta play 1004 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 1: on special teams. And that was Joe's point in the 1005 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,840 Speaker 1: clip we heard coming back, how do you balance playing 1006 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: time on offense defense with special teams time to look 1007 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 1: in the last preseason game, you're balancing it with guys 1008 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: that aren't gonna be on your roster, and you're just going, hey, 1009 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 1: but you're you're playing, you know, so get ready and 1010 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: drink lots of water this week leading up to the game. 1011 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 1: But there's probably probably four three or four guys that 1012 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: are going to be playing that are that need to 1013 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: have good performances on on special teams and their position 1014 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,879 Speaker 1: old group to be able to make this roster. I mean, 1015 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 1: like maybe like a guy like c. J. Board or 1016 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: Trading Pride or uh Robinson, the corner. I think Josh Robinson, 1017 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 1: I think he's uh. I think there. You don't think 1018 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 1: he has to do anything this week. I mean he's 1019 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: done everything every week to me for me, I mean, 1020 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: so for me, I wouldn't. I would. I don't need 1021 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: anything to anything seen from him. And it's not like 1022 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: he's a He's been doing it for time and he 1023 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: gets it. I would probably consider sitting him just because, 1024 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: you know, if you didn't have depth at that corner 1025 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: defensive back position, I would consider playing him. But I 1026 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: think he got enough depth there to where if he's 1027 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: gonna be on the roster, that you keep him because 1028 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,240 Speaker 1: he's shown to me that he can play special teams, 1029 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: he can play safety, and he can play corner, and 1030 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: that versatility it has has a lot of value when 1031 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 1: you're talking about making the decision on a guy who's 1032 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 1: gonna make a final roster spot. Much like when we 1033 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: were in Baltimore, who's that big fullback slash defensive tackle 1034 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 1: Ortecard and he was good full back? Now not recording me, 1035 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember his name, but I'll find it out. 1036 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: But anyway, a guy like that that can play offense 1037 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: and defense and then play him both really pretty well 1038 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: and special teams lock. It's for example, if Terrell Prior 1039 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:59,280 Speaker 1: could play special teams and play it well like a 1040 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,839 Speaker 1: two twenty eight pound linebacker, you might expect to play. 1041 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: So in other words, of if Troull Prior, we could 1042 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 1: use his size or however how much he ways. He 1043 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: might be too forty for all I know speed. But 1044 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 1: if he could play good special teams, Trull Pryor would 1045 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: play as long as he wanted to in the National 1046 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 1: Football League. But he doesn't play special teams. Is he 1047 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,240 Speaker 1: gonna make it? No? Is what's the latest with his injury? 1048 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 1: He had the hammy coming out of the game. It's right. 1049 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: Did he practice today? No? No, I don't think he did. 1050 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't know he was out today. I wouldn't be 1051 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 1: surprised if injured. That's probably where he's gonna end up. 1052 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. How much did you see of 1053 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: him all preseason until last week? What's the number one 1054 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,720 Speaker 1: thing you got to be as a player? That's correct? 1055 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 1: So hey, coming up, it's time to party like it's 1056 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,760 Speaker 1: Thursday for a throwback Thursday, August twenty nine, So Jack's 1057 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 1: hosts The Falcons My tickets today and get an exclusive 1058 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 1: nineties fan pack. 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Welcome back, Second Hour, 1120 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, Tony was Selly per usual, 1121 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: and Jeff Flagman in with us. I'm here filling in 1122 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 1: for Pete Prisco tonight. Pete is not in South Florida. 1123 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: He is in Kansas City, hammering barbecue and chasing a 1124 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 1: quarterback around hammering barbecue. So he'll be back with us 1125 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 1: next week, which I mean he's like eating a lot 1126 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: of barbecues here. Yes, yes, that's what that is. So, um, 1127 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 1: well he'll be back with us. Logs. Great to have you. 1128 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Good to be here, um, good to be anywhere, good 1129 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 1: to be invited, right point. That's it's just good to 1130 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: be anywhere. That's what Keith Richards said at the concert 1131 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: the other Um. So all right, here we go Uh, 1132 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 1: second hour of Jaguars Happy are coming up. We'll go 1133 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 1: around the National Football League. We'll touch on the a 1134 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: f C South, not only Andrew Luck, but some other 1135 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 1: storylines of other teams on the division. The last a 1136 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: week or so, it's been a busy week in the 1137 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 1: ANFC South. Let's continue our offensive line conversation. We touched 1138 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 1: on this group earlier and I'm kind of talked about 1139 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: the game and Cam Robinson snaps in the battle at 1140 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 1: right garden. All let's talk. I'm gonna say one more 1141 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 1: thing about Cam Robinson. Yes, he's a still a young 1142 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 1: player who really has played one year. Right in the 1143 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: game and a half, Yeah, half a game. It was 1144 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 1: the first quarter got hurt. Um, how do you feel 1145 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,560 Speaker 1: about him coming back and you know, starting sixteen games 1146 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 1: off the a C after having six plays in the preseason. Uh, 1147 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm not very comfortable with it. I was thinking the 1148 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,560 Speaker 1: same thing now. I think Camp, My position of Camp's 1149 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: never changed. I think he's immensely talented. I love his nastiness, 1150 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: he's physical, he's tough. I just think his footwork has 1151 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 1: been just really average at best, and what gets him 1152 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 1: in trouble And Um, I'm not gonna make any judgments 1153 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 1: from the six places we saw. But it wasn't good. 1154 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 1: But that's okay. I mean, coming back from a c L, 1155 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 1: just just beat out there. Yeah, just yeah. I'm like, 1156 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to be critical. Really, he's working hard, 1157 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: but that has to get better and his conditioning is 1158 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 1: not going to be where it needs to be. I mean, 1159 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, I've I've done it playing 1160 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 1: temporary teen plays in the preseason coming off in a 1161 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: c L and mine was seven and a half months 1162 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 1: and this is gonna be almost eleven. Um. But you're 1163 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 1: for that first few you're like that first game sucking wind. 1164 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's oh, I mean you have like you, 1165 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 1: by the way, you're playing against pretty damn good player 1166 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: and Frank Clark he's pretty good. Yeah, And so I'm 1167 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about that. I think that's interesting. 1168 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 1: I think now let me talk about this and we'll 1169 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 1: talk about this to falling week JP with Pete and Jeff, 1170 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: and I'll talk about on the Thursday night show leading 1171 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: up to the game. I think if you're John D. Philippo, 1172 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 1: you have the game plan for that. I mean, that's 1173 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 1: a game plan and then, and you better hope you 1174 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: got your rookie right a rookie on the other side. Okay, 1175 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 1: right now, who are you more confident in based on 1176 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,959 Speaker 1: I'm more confident in Juwan Taylor's past protection. My point 1177 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 1: is you have to pick one. You have to get, like, 1178 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: if you want to actually sing guys out in the 1179 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 1: past route, you gotta pick one. Now. The one good 1180 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 1: thing is if you watch Philly in the past, and 1181 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: you watch a lot of teams, and we didn't do 1182 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 1: it for very much in the past. We did at times. 1183 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: I think John d Football will do a good job 1184 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 1: of chipping on the way out with tight ends, formationing 1185 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 1: the defense to help his tackles if they're struggling. And 1186 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 1: you can do that on both sides, but as far 1187 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 1: as like really helping and really game planning, you'd like 1188 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 1: don't have to do it on one side of the 1189 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 1: offensive line. I think you have to choose Cam Robinson 1190 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: early just because he's coming off as a c L 1191 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 1: and as I've been thinking about this first quarter of 1192 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 1: the season, you know we break it down the quarters 1193 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 1: at first four games. Cam Robinson's gonna be a work 1194 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 1: in progress, and I just want to set expectations if 1195 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 1: everyone listening, and that's normal. He's a young player. He's 1196 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: a young player. Come up with a c L who 1197 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: hasn't a lot of reps with with that work in progress. 1198 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 1: We were just talking during a break about making the 1199 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 1: cuts on this offensive line. Let's assume that we have 1200 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 1: eight spots open, eight spots maybe nine, eight for sure. 1201 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 1: And here and here's why I say, Hey, don't you 1202 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: want to keep one extra guy, maybe a tackle to 1203 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: help out if you need help with that tackle position. Well, 1204 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 1: depending on the depth, sometimes you'll keep nine or ten. Absolutely. 1205 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 1: But here's here's why I say that is because the 1206 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 1: way he had a hamstring just today. Okay, um, do 1207 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 1: you expect him back? Yes? Maybe, Um, but you would 1208 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 1: like to have since Will Richardson is really no longer 1209 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 1: a tackle now he's competing that guard, do you now 1210 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 1: want to have a backup tackle. So, and I know 1211 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 1: that Josh Wells, we haven't seen him get a lot 1212 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 1: of snaps in the preseason. Leonard Wester has not been 1213 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 1: great in the preseason. Been Elana was brought in Layton camp, 1214 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 1: but Wester is clearly the number is clearly guy the 1215 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 1: second tackle. Let me ask you this Tony. I'm just 1216 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 1: telling you what by the depth charts and playing time, 1217 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying I agree with it. Would you 1218 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 1: would you? Would he be a part of your right? 1219 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 1: Would not listen? We can all agree on these ones 1220 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 1: right here, which is our starters, Cam Robinson, Andrew Norwell, 1221 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 1: Brandon Lender, A J. Cann and Will Richardson. Will put 1222 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 1: both of them in there. So that's five. Cedric O 1223 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: boy he is six, and Juwan Taylor's starting right tackle 1224 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 1: is seven. Uh. One Shatley is I'll say this, Shatley, 1225 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be on his way out, 1226 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 1: but I think you're going anywhere. I don't think I 1227 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 1: think he's back. You can snap, you can play guards. 1228 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 1: I've got eight right there. Ye. Well, the reason why 1229 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,040 Speaker 1: I say Shatley I think is a lock is number one. 1230 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 1: Uh Brandon Lender has not been able to play sixteen 1231 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 1: games and in quite some time. So I'd like to 1232 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 1: have a guy that can start at center. He's ever 1233 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 1: done it? Maybe not, but you want to have a 1234 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 1: guy that can start at center weekend and week out, 1235 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 1: and Tyler Shatley has proven that he can do that. A. J. 1236 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,840 Speaker 1: Cann is taken snap I would feel more comfortable with 1237 01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 1: a J. Cannon the role. If he's not starting, he's 1238 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a swing guy for games. What about McDermott, 1239 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 1: good question, he's played well in the preseason, hasn't practiced 1240 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 1: great good question, and hasn't played much in the preseason. 1241 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 1: But what he has, he's done pretty good out there. Yeah, 1242 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 1: he's done pretty good job. But would wouldn't you want 1243 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 1: to have I would say have another tackle of because 1244 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,440 Speaker 1: then Brandon Thomas has been talked a little bit about 1245 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,960 Speaker 1: by the coaching staff. They kind of like him. Darl 1246 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 1: Green for a while it was hot, yea, And he's 1247 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 1: probably a practice schools, a practice squad guy, saying body. 1248 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 1: As far as the active roster, yeah, no, Danielle Green 1249 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,080 Speaker 1: is not going to make the active roster. He's he's 1250 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 1: a practice squad guy. He was a tackle at Minnesota 1251 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 1: and now they've moved him into guard. He is a 1252 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: practice squad type of guy. We ask you this, if 1253 01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, if there's the concern about Cam that you 1254 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 1: just talked about, you know, he's hurt in a blaze's 1255 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,440 Speaker 1: banged up week one. Still, that's my point. Do you 1256 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 1: keep nine now going into the sea as an extra 1257 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 1: guy or West or whoever they like. Somebody might keep 1258 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 1: both smash you just because bodies we got eight. If 1259 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 1: you had if you could keep nine, Tony Bussell, who 1260 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 1: would you want to have? Is your nine? And we're 1261 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 1: assuming Cam Robinson, Andrew Norwell, Brandon Lenner, Tyler Shatley, A J. Camwell, Richardson, 1262 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: Cedricoboyhe and Juwan Taylor are your eight? All right? If 1263 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 1: you're asking me, because I'm saying, who can if I 1264 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 1: have to get someone to go play left tackle for 1265 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,480 Speaker 1: one game to get me, you're saying is if you 1266 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 1: had nine? Thinking about it, then I would right now. 1267 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 1: And I know this is not the view of the 1268 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 1: coaching staff. And I only know this because based on 1269 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 1: playing time is I would pick Welles before I put Wester. 1270 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: So would I. But if you look at what the 1271 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 1: uh George warhop de offensive line coach and Doug Morone 1272 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,560 Speaker 1: and how they've structured the playing time in the preseason, 1273 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,919 Speaker 1: Western is clearly ahead of Josh Wales. I don't see 1274 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,440 Speaker 1: it now. I don't watch every practice, I'm not in 1275 01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 1: the meetings. I don't know just from the games, just 1276 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 1: from the game stuff it I'm watching and practice the 1277 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:07,040 Speaker 1: practices I've seen. I think Wells I'd feel more comfortable 1278 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 1: with Wells because of the athletic ability. Western is more powerful, 1279 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But movement he struggles with. And 1280 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 1: he guys get on the edge really fast. We saw 1281 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 1: it on the interception play at the holding to save 1282 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 1: Nick Foles. He almost died. Nick Wells a great yeah. 1283 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 1: West was the greatest penalty I've ever seen anyone commit 1284 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 1: because Nick Foles was about to get hammered. And so 1285 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 1: I would feel better about Wells because I think you 1286 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 1: have an issue right now. At left tackle. Juwan Taylor 1287 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 1: is not a left tackle, never played it. He's the 1288 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 1: right tackle. I think he played a little bit of 1289 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 1: it in Florida. Is early, very early. No, I know 1290 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 1: he's the right tackle, I'm saying I don't. I think 1291 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 1: he's just like spot duty um, where he is hurt, 1292 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 1: where he struggled. I mean both tackles, especially at left tackle. 1293 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,719 Speaker 1: We saw struggle against the Eagles. How bad is the hamstring? 1294 01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,440 Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't even know how bad I'm practice. Um. 1295 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 1: Will Richardson is a right tackle, what I'm saying, But 1296 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: if you had to play tackle, he could play right 1297 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,680 Speaker 1: tackle for you, because that was the idea when he 1298 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 1: came in. But he's gonna I mean, I'm as I'm 1299 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 1: thinking through these scenarios and like, who's gonna play left 1300 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:19,479 Speaker 1: tackle on the roster. Well Way's hurt, Jewan Taylor is not. 1301 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 1: He's your right tackle. Will Richardson is a right tackle. 1302 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever even played left tackle, and 1303 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:31,840 Speaker 1: he's probably starting right guard. Who's left it? You got? 1304 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 1: You got the choice of really three guys Wester we 1305 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,880 Speaker 1: Wester Wells or and I haven't seen the left or 1306 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 1: if if there's a guy on waiver wires there's not 1307 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 1: left tackle, left tackle. Let me say this, left tackles, 1308 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:48,479 Speaker 1: don't put it this way. You know, you're picking up 1309 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 1: Alana or Wester if you were to keep Wells if 1310 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:57,320 Speaker 1: you're another team, probably not not unless it was Straits, yeah, 1311 01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: dire Straits or desperate Yeah, I think it's call for 1312 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 1: desperate measures, you know. But it's right, Logs. We'll get 1313 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,800 Speaker 1: your mic back on in just a moment here. These 1314 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:17,519 Speaker 1: are perfect, just got better. But that it's it's an 1315 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:21,400 Speaker 1: interesting conversation. Really can go down to the wire here 1316 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 1: on opening day. It's a concern and who's up and 1317 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,519 Speaker 1: down and healthy and not it is your real concert. 1318 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,760 Speaker 1: The left tackle position has been a concern of mine 1319 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 1: all camp. It continues to be a concern. And I'm 1320 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,479 Speaker 1: not and if Cam Robinson's listen to this, this has 1321 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 1: nothing to do with whether I think Cam Robinson is 1322 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 1: a good player or not. He's a young player. Come 1323 01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 1: off on a c l in the first in the 1324 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,360 Speaker 1: first few games, he's gonna be it. It's gonna be 1325 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,599 Speaker 1: a bat He's aft the battle and it's not gonna 1326 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,639 Speaker 1: be easy, and he knows it. And that's okay. He's 1327 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:54,759 Speaker 1: a competitor. But right now, you don't have an answer 1328 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 1: if something were to happen to Cam Robinson and answer that, 1329 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 1: you're really unless unless Oway's healthy, then he's the guy. 1330 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,679 Speaker 1: Then he's the guy, and you can and you can 1331 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 1: listen as far as backup tackles. That's a good he's 1332 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 1: a good solution in this league is having a guy 1333 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 1: like way. Nothing wrong with that. I mean, I'm not 1334 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 1: I don't want him to start. I came to start, 1335 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 1: but um, it'll be interesting to watch and and we'll 1336 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:29,840 Speaker 1: talk about all week leading up to the Kansas City game. 1337 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 1: But that's a that's a that's something that John D. 1338 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 1: Felippe is gonna have to and that offensive staff is 1339 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,599 Speaker 1: gonna have the game plan for Frank Frank Clark coming 1340 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 1: to town. Jeff Logans back with us, no welcome back anywhere. 1341 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,080 Speaker 1: How did it become my issue because he's always passing 1342 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,080 Speaker 1: the buck. I have nothing you blame it. You are 1343 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:57,120 Speaker 1: that you are the biggest finger pointer, Like what a 1344 01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 1: bad teammate. I mean just points of thing. I don't 1345 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,439 Speaker 1: how you doing on the other shows, Jeff, But on 1346 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 1: this show, we don't point the finger. I take a 1347 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 1: sell at show responsibility for our actions. I don't know 1348 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 1: about that. Wow, that's a fact. It's not a fact. 1349 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:18,360 Speaker 1: I did nothing. This chord right here, Okay, see that 1350 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 1: one right there? Yeah that see your big foot right there. 1351 01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,519 Speaker 1: That chord is attached to this right here, and you're 1352 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 1: pulling it away. I'm not pulling anything away, Thank you 1353 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,759 Speaker 1: very much. We're back in a moment trying to figure 1354 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was bad at Pete. On 1355 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:37,480 Speaker 1: this show, Jeff's much worse. We're on a good run. 1356 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Bad teammate, point the finger? You know what you do 1357 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,320 Speaker 1: when you Mike goes out. Just suck it up and 1358 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:46,560 Speaker 1: figure it out. I'm pointing the finger. Everyone sees it. 1359 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,720 Speaker 1: Wait till the break, you'll point another finger at it. 1360 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 1: Probably back in a moment. We'll delve into Doug marrone's 1361 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 1: thoughts about this week, in particular, he hates it spoil 1362 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 1: the teas. 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You know, 1416 01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 1: obviously everyone's fighting for a job, whether it's you know 1417 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:35,000 Speaker 1: here or somewhere else possibly. Um, everyone's just trying to 1418 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 1: have their best before. You're not trying to stress yourself 1419 01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 1: out with all these are am I gonna make the 1420 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,640 Speaker 1: team and blah blah blah um. At the end of 1421 01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,200 Speaker 1: the day, you just gotta put your your your best 1422 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,840 Speaker 1: self on tape. Um. If if you're a better you're 1423 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,559 Speaker 1: a good fit for this team, then you know you'll 1424 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 1: end up with this team. But if you belong on 1425 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,120 Speaker 1: another team, another scheme, then so be it. Heally and 1426 01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Coo in the locker room yesterday, Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour. 1427 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,719 Speaker 1: The Acts have launched a new mobile app and secure 1428 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 1: digital ticketing. The all new Official Jacksonville Jaguars app features 1429 01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,760 Speaker 1: exclusive content, live game streaming, game day alerts, and much more. 1430 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,600 Speaker 1: Look for Secure digital ticketing this Thursday. I mean, screenshots 1431 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,200 Speaker 1: of tickets are no longer allowed this year, so download 1432 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 1: or update the official Jacksonville Jaguars, Apple and Apple and 1433 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:22,559 Speaker 1: Android devices. That's coming up Thursday night, seven o'clock kickoff 1434 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 1: time for the Jags and the Falcons at t I 1435 01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 1: A Bank. Elien COO interesting thoughts. Went around the locker 1436 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 1: room yesterday and kind of got some different perspectives on 1437 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,320 Speaker 1: what this week holds. And Elie's one of him. He's 1438 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,559 Speaker 1: been around here now for a couple of years. Um. 1439 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,960 Speaker 1: Another one was McBride, the wide receiver who was kind 1440 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,639 Speaker 1: of on the bubble, but he's a fourth year player. 1441 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,479 Speaker 1: He's been around the league and he kind of understands 1442 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 1: what this week is about. And if you if you 1443 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:51,639 Speaker 1: play against get it again what this week is about, 1444 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,000 Speaker 1: and how to handle the rookies o JP. They don't 1445 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 1: know what it's about. No, they don't know what It's 1446 01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,760 Speaker 1: a weird field in the in the just walking around 1447 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 1: the locker room again today. Just it's because next week after, 1448 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean, what thirty the guys are gone. It was 1449 01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 1: always amazing to me when when we would have roster cuts, 1450 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,160 Speaker 1: it was it was more of a step system than 1451 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 1: what it is today, because you went we went from 1452 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,639 Speaker 1: ninety to seventy five and then down to fifty three, 1453 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,040 Speaker 1: and then they made it now just one cut so 1454 01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,080 Speaker 1: that they would have more players available to play in 1455 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,000 Speaker 1: the last preseason game. It was only a few years 1456 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:28,120 Speaker 1: ago they changed that, and uh, I just remember when 1457 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,600 Speaker 1: we went from seventy five down to fifty three. I mean, 1458 01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:34,479 Speaker 1: it was it was a big change. And uh when 1459 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,000 Speaker 1: you came back in the locker room and you're like, 1460 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,800 Speaker 1: is this all that's on our team now? You know, 1461 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,760 Speaker 1: because the numbers all a sudden shrink so dramatically, and 1462 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,400 Speaker 1: you and it is kind of hard. The first couple 1463 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,280 Speaker 1: of days is kind of hard, but you really don't 1464 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,360 Speaker 1: want to waste much time thinking about it because look, 1465 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,479 Speaker 1: you gotta you got a game that counts coming up 1466 01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,320 Speaker 1: in a week. So so it's a lot different. But 1467 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, a guy like Eli Elienko, I mean, he's 1468 01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,960 Speaker 1: rightfully taking the right approach because is he's a bubble guy. 1469 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,479 Speaker 1: He's a guy that you now have a draft pick 1470 01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 1: that was drafted in dante Vious Russell from Auburn and 1471 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,840 Speaker 1: the seventh round and has been a guy that's shown mobility, 1472 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 1: he shows that he's got some pass for us. He's 1473 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,760 Speaker 1: got sized like Elienko, and so it's gonna be a 1474 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,719 Speaker 1: tough decision between one of those two guys and Tony. 1475 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,040 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be one or the other, and 1476 01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,519 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna Russell is more athletic, moves better. 1477 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,679 Speaker 1: Uh Elienk, who's really a two gap type of player. 1478 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 1: Um would be great in the three or four as 1479 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,040 Speaker 1: a nose good football player. Taking nothing away from him, 1480 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,000 Speaker 1: but I just think the athletic ability of Russell is 1481 01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,240 Speaker 1: probably gonna give him a little bit of the edge, 1482 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,560 Speaker 1: you know. It did to pick up on Jeff was 1483 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,800 Speaker 1: saying about cut day, and Jeff and I are always 1484 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,360 Speaker 1: in a different situation, I mean, being high draft picks 1485 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,880 Speaker 1: and then you know, you don't worry about that kind 1486 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,040 Speaker 1: of stuff. But what I found interesting is it affects 1487 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,840 Speaker 1: everybody because your friends, I mean, and it it really 1488 01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,840 Speaker 1: the big impact is the closer you like your position group, 1489 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,360 Speaker 1: because that's what you're really close to camp. I mean, 1490 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,960 Speaker 1: not that you're close to other guys. When you're friends 1491 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,439 Speaker 1: with the defensive lineman, you hang, I mean you eat 1492 01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 1: together maybe, and you have your group of you know, 1493 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,599 Speaker 1: the click whatever theo's clicks within every organization and everything else, 1494 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,320 Speaker 1: but you really become close with the guys that you're 1495 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:16,960 Speaker 1: in the meetings with all the time, especially in the 1496 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,200 Speaker 1: old days when you're practicing twice a day and you're 1497 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,800 Speaker 1: at meeting still ten ten thirty at night, and so 1498 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,640 Speaker 1: you spent a lot of time during camp and then 1499 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, these are guys that get cut 1500 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,880 Speaker 1: and they're your friends. And that's the difficult part because 1501 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,519 Speaker 1: you know it greatly impacts their lives. Some of them 1502 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,240 Speaker 1: have families and wives, and they're you know, trying to 1503 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,400 Speaker 1: figure out, you know, trying to get on somewhere else, 1504 01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:40,800 Speaker 1: or they need to go on to the next stage 1505 01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:44,519 Speaker 1: of their career, which is all these different things that 1506 01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,200 Speaker 1: go into it, and then the next moment. So that's 1507 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,519 Speaker 1: a that's a tough weekend because you know, you're trying 1508 01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,360 Speaker 1: to figure out what's going with your friends and your 1509 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,320 Speaker 1: phone calls and everything else. But then you show up 1510 01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 1: the week work Monday, and you look around like, Okay, 1511 01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,320 Speaker 1: this is our team, let's go to work. Here come 1512 01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 1: the chiefs of town on the next Sunday. I don't 1513 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:08,360 Speaker 1: want to sound like like having no heart or no emotion, 1514 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 1: but literally I remember coming in Monday and you almost 1515 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 1: forget about everyone else. That's not there. It's no different 1516 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,719 Speaker 1: and it happens all the time. We're talking about Andrew 1517 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,800 Speaker 1: Luck earlier. When you're hurt as a hurt player, like 1518 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,800 Speaker 1: you're not there, you're not a part. It's like we're 1519 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,080 Speaker 1: going to battle these guys. They're still going to tee 1520 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:27,800 Speaker 1: it up at one o'clock on Sundays. It's like, this 1521 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,120 Speaker 1: is what we're doing. And so it's a really tough 1522 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,599 Speaker 1: emotional weekend for a lot of guys, and I think 1523 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,760 Speaker 1: for the whole team because you have friends. But then 1524 01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,519 Speaker 1: come Monday, it's all forgotten about. And head coach Doug 1525 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,320 Speaker 1: Marone has a little bit of a different perspective on this. 1526 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,960 Speaker 1: He's been a bubble player when he was a player 1527 01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,680 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and this one kind of 1528 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,840 Speaker 1: cuts close to home. It's the challenge of you know, 1529 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,400 Speaker 1: how much you want to, you know, get ahead and 1530 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,439 Speaker 1: get ready for your opening game. You know, it's a 1531 01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,640 Speaker 1: challenge of making sure you do the right thing for 1532 01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:58,519 Speaker 1: the people that are still trying to make the team. 1533 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:03,200 Speaker 1: You know, they're obviously always a couple of spots left. Uh, 1534 01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,800 Speaker 1: but then it's tough because you know I probably can 1535 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 1: um you guys know relate to the anxiety, you know, 1536 01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,080 Speaker 1: with a lot of the players that have been giving 1537 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,760 Speaker 1: us everything they had and you know, trying to you know, 1538 01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,760 Speaker 1: make it in the NFL, and um, you know, in 1539 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,800 Speaker 1: a couple of days and everybody's life changes. So those 1540 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,640 Speaker 1: are the things that are tough about this week. Is 1541 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,479 Speaker 1: that coach Doug Marone and that you know he says 1542 01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,680 Speaker 1: something similar to that every year in this week, at 1543 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,719 Speaker 1: the start of this week or around this time frame, 1544 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,160 Speaker 1: that that's a real thing for him. I mean, you know, 1545 01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,439 Speaker 1: he has to sit across the table and tell a 1546 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,920 Speaker 1: guy that he's not good enough for this football team. Well, 1547 01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,160 Speaker 1: he he wants to have a conversation with each player, 1548 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,960 Speaker 1: and he does, and he remembered as a player pretty 1549 01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,840 Speaker 1: much he said this, at least he remembers almost every 1550 01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,840 Speaker 1: word that was told to him in that situation. So 1551 01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 1: he wants that to be a um something to remember 1552 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,719 Speaker 1: and as positive as it can be in that moment, 1553 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 1: because it's not as a player. As as a player, 1554 01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:07,840 Speaker 1: if you're gonna get cut, you're like, dude, just tell 1555 01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,000 Speaker 1: me I'm cutting, then let me out of here. Yeah, 1556 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure that that's kind of the emotion there, but 1557 01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,240 Speaker 1: as I wouldn't want the niceties. Yeah, I wouldn't. I 1558 01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't like that. He'll shoot you straight up. No, I'm 1559 01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,320 Speaker 1: not saying I'm not saying nothing about what you saying. 1560 01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:22,760 Speaker 1: I just like, just if I'm cut, I'm cut. Unless 1561 01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,800 Speaker 1: you can help me get onto another team. Yeah, waste 1562 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,920 Speaker 1: of time. I got to look, there's a lot of 1563 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,400 Speaker 1: people involved in that decision making process. And I don't 1564 01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,760 Speaker 1: know how the Jaguars do it because you know, every team, 1565 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,760 Speaker 1: going back to my first year in the league, I 1566 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,320 Speaker 1: remember we had a turk. You know. He was the 1567 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 1: hatchet man, you know that that would walk around the 1568 01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:47,360 Speaker 1: hallways or the locker room and and basically grab guys 1569 01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,479 Speaker 1: or the hotel if we were staying at a hotel, 1570 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, knock on your door and say hey, you know, 1571 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,759 Speaker 1: bring your playbook and come on, and you're like, nobody 1572 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,439 Speaker 1: ever wanted to see it. Some people would hide from 1573 01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:02,360 Speaker 1: that guy. Uh, he's gonna stop him from getting cut, Yeah, exactly. 1574 01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,920 Speaker 1: And some guys that did hide, they literally hid. They 1575 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,080 Speaker 1: couldn't find it. But we gotta remember back in back then, 1576 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:13,880 Speaker 1: we didn't have they can't cut. They can actually remember 1577 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,080 Speaker 1: the rams hard knocks year. It was a strength coach 1578 01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:17,880 Speaker 1: who was the guy. He would get the text or 1579 01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:19,320 Speaker 1: the email and he'd have to go up in the 1580 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,519 Speaker 1: weight room. Man, I wouldn't want to do I wouldn't 1581 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,400 Speaker 1: want to do that. That's tough. It's gotta be tough, right, 1582 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,920 Speaker 1: I just I mean, that's that's not that's not cool. 1583 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,280 Speaker 1: If you if you've got that job. Sometimes like it's 1584 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,320 Speaker 1: it can be a younger kind of intern type guy. 1585 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,200 Speaker 1: A second, it's not that it's not cool. It's just 1586 01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,080 Speaker 1: a tough who used to do it back in the 1587 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,800 Speaker 1: early days. Less who's now the g M and l 1588 01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,439 Speaker 1: A about that. He used to he used to be here. 1589 01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,720 Speaker 1: He wouldn't do it. He'd come grab the guys, say 1590 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,320 Speaker 1: come exactly. But he was the guy. But he was 1591 01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,560 Speaker 1: the one who cut everybody. Sure, but Tom wasn't the 1592 01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:58,040 Speaker 1: one going to the lot. I remember those twos. Grab 1593 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,519 Speaker 1: the guys. They would come and get you and then 1594 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,960 Speaker 1: take you down to see Tom. Or A lot of 1595 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,759 Speaker 1: times what would happen is because it was in the weekend. 1596 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:10,439 Speaker 1: You get a phone calls were the last cuts were done, 1597 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, Saturday and Sunday or Friday and Saturday. After 1598 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,000 Speaker 1: the last preseason games. It was Thursday night, sometimes a 1599 01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:22,160 Speaker 1: Friday game back then, and everyone who have off, and 1600 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,200 Speaker 1: so we'd all be at home getting ready because we 1601 01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:28,080 Speaker 1: knew the season was getting ready to start, and everyone 1602 01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:29,719 Speaker 1: else would be sitting there waiting to buy the phone, 1603 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,360 Speaker 1: hoping they weren't getting a phone call, because if you 1604 01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,200 Speaker 1: got a phone call, you gotta go, you gotta come 1605 01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:36,080 Speaker 1: in again. I remember one of the worst cuts I've 1606 01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:43,080 Speaker 1: ever seen, timing wise, Tony, remember this, Uh in Denver, 1607 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:48,519 Speaker 1: we were able to sign Clyde Simmons. So Clyde literally 1608 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,880 Speaker 1: got cut from Arizona. So we're picking them up, so 1609 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:55,080 Speaker 1: they're flying him into Denver. Well, we have to let 1610 01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:59,759 Speaker 1: somebody go because our roster is maxed out at ninety 1611 01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:03,920 Speaker 1: or whatever. So they literally his last preseason game, yeah, 1612 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,840 Speaker 1: seventy five. So they literally call Corey Mayfield. They go 1613 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,639 Speaker 1: to his hotel room, knock on his door and say, 1614 01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:16,760 Speaker 1: get your bag packed, you're going home. So from the hope, 1615 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,519 Speaker 1: here's a guy that's getting ready to play a preseason game, 1616 01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, getting his mind right. It's the day of 1617 01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:24,599 Speaker 1: the game, I think it was the day of the game, 1618 01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,640 Speaker 1: and they knock on his door, send him home on 1619 01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:30,479 Speaker 1: a commercial, which, by the way, is the right decisions. 1620 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,840 Speaker 1: Clyde Simmons. Clyde Simmons help us win a lot of games. 1621 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,599 Speaker 1: He did whatever happened to him. The other guy, Corey Mayfield, 1622 01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,519 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if he called on 1623 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,120 Speaker 1: anywhere else or what. But great guy, great guy, always 1624 01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,280 Speaker 1: had a him an upbeat personality. You know, good, good dude. 1625 01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,559 Speaker 1: How about that that that would be a bad one. 1626 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,040 Speaker 1: I think you're you're hoping to make the team. You're 1627 01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:56,320 Speaker 1: in the hotel, you're ready to play here. If they 1628 01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,080 Speaker 1: were looking for one guy to cut to make room 1629 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,599 Speaker 1: for for Clyde Simmons, and it's you, you weren't making 1630 01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 1: the team anyway, and so what it really just saved him. 1631 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,120 Speaker 1: Corey might have made he because he he was on 1632 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:12,080 Speaker 1: our team. Like, if you're gonna have a chance to 1633 01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 1: make it and they're looking to cut somebody because they 1634 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,320 Speaker 1: had to open up one spot, if you're the guy, 1635 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:23,040 Speaker 1: yeah you're probably gone tomorrow. Yeah you were gone. Yeah 1636 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,200 Speaker 1: that was but that was kind of crazy. Corey Mayfield 1637 01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,240 Speaker 1: had a career in the Arena Football League after the Jaguars. 1638 01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:34,160 Speaker 1: In fact, yeah, he was ninety two in the offseason 1639 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Buccaneers and two Jags in ve he was with US 1640 01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,840 Speaker 1: one year and then Grand Rapids Orlando, the Philadelphia Soul 1641 01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:46,040 Speaker 1: in the Dallas Desperadoes until like oh five, like he played. 1642 01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,080 Speaker 1: Good for him, good guy. Don't miss the kickoff to 1643 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,759 Speaker 1: college football. Well the week one kickoff to college football 1644 01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,879 Speaker 1: this Saturday, the Florida State Seminoles meat the Boise State Broncos. 1645 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:05,320 Speaker 1: T I a bank Field premium seating still available. 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So the whole family on 1656 01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 1: looking forward to a j I'm not I'll have studio. 1657 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,360 Speaker 1: You don't care. You don't care about that I don't 1658 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,640 Speaker 1: care about college football. I'm working college supporting at night 1659 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,880 Speaker 1: and supporting the local game. We've got the Georgia Bandy 1660 01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:50,400 Speaker 1: game on Touchdown Radio. I'm not familiar with that group. 1661 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,320 Speaker 1: We're back in the Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars 1662 01:28:54,400 --> 01:29:03,000 Speaker 1: Digital Network. 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You know 1712 01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:18,479 Speaker 1: he's gonna be prepared and ready. You know he's physically, 1713 01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, very athletic and blessed. You know, he's a 1714 01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,080 Speaker 1: guy who you know, just you know, you know, has 1715 01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:29,160 Speaker 1: been great guy. That's Clais Campbell in the locker room 1716 01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:31,920 Speaker 1: this week, discussing Andrew Luck and the retirement of the 1717 01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:36,439 Speaker 1: Colts quarterback Welcome Back, Jaguar's Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, 1718 01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,599 Speaker 1: Tony Boselli as usual, Pete Brisco out tonight in Kansas City. 1719 01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:46,400 Speaker 1: So Jeff Lockerman sits in. Yeah, yes, thanks for joining 1720 01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:49,880 Speaker 1: us tonight. I didn't have to have the different share either. 1721 01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:52,880 Speaker 1: That's good. I gave up my seat for you. I'm 1722 01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:57,559 Speaker 1: a team player. I don't point fingers like someone else does. Wow. Um, 1723 01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,960 Speaker 1: let's continue, goodness our converse sation. We started the show 1724 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,920 Speaker 1: tonight with the Andrew Luck news. If I would have 1725 01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:06,880 Speaker 1: to like point out how many times Bisselli has pointed 1726 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:12,320 Speaker 1: the finger on the radio airwaves, JP, Do I ever 1727 01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:16,720 Speaker 1: blame you all the time? Literally all the time? Yes, 1728 01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,040 Speaker 1: call up Frank and all the time times your fingers 1729 01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:29,559 Speaker 1: pointed at him. Never let's continue always behind his back. 1730 01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,760 Speaker 1: I thought I was doing behind your back to you 1731 01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:37,880 Speaker 1: sitting here to my face, Yes, Um, Andrew Luck news 1732 01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:39,720 Speaker 1: obviously the big news of the FC South, but not 1733 01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,080 Speaker 1: the only thing going on in the division this week. 1734 01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,360 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller tores a c L in Houston. He's done 1735 01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:49,120 Speaker 1: for the season, and then Taylor Juan officially suspended the 1736 01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,599 Speaker 1: four games for the violation of the performance enhancing substance policy. 1737 01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,680 Speaker 1: He had announced it earlier himself, it became official just 1738 01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:57,920 Speaker 1: a few days ago in Tennessee. It was just a 1739 01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,519 Speaker 1: few of the headlines in the NFC South. Well, Mr Miller, 1740 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,760 Speaker 1: they traded for Duke Johnson right of the Cleveland Brown, 1741 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:06,800 Speaker 1: so he's gonna be able to step in right away. 1742 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,080 Speaker 1: The interesting thing about the Colts, the last time that 1743 01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:12,040 Speaker 1: we saw Jacoby Brissette play an extended amount of time, 1744 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,920 Speaker 1: it was when they traded for him at the last second. 1745 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,879 Speaker 1: Seen and Tony loves him, thinks he's a franchise type quarterback. 1746 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,400 Speaker 1: But now we're gonna actually get an idea whether or 1747 01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:25,640 Speaker 1: not he is this is your franchise quarterback. No, I 1748 01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:27,960 Speaker 1: did not. I said I liked Jacoby Brisette. I think 1749 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,400 Speaker 1: he was a good trade back then because they needed them. 1750 01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:34,800 Speaker 1: I've never said he's a franchise quarterback. Ever, I said 1751 01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:36,720 Speaker 1: he I like him. I like the trade. I think 1752 01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:38,600 Speaker 1: he has a chance to be a franchise quarterback. I 1753 01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:40,760 Speaker 1: don't think. I never said he was a franchise quar 1754 01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,200 Speaker 1: and I stand by that. I think he has an opportunity. 1755 01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,200 Speaker 1: The guy was thrown in, won four games not knowing 1756 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:49,360 Speaker 1: the playbook on a bad roster that was built by 1757 01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:53,479 Speaker 1: our GM friend that was Grigson. That was terrible. So 1758 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:55,040 Speaker 1: one of the reasons Andrew look, I hurt so much. 1759 01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,840 Speaker 1: He got pounded all the time. They didn't build up front. 1760 01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,400 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard's a He's doing a really good, really good job. 1761 01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:05,000 Speaker 1: He has town around him, He's a above average offensive line, 1762 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:09,080 Speaker 1: better defense, got weapons, and he has now been in 1763 01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:13,720 Speaker 1: the system for a whole year. I think he has 1764 01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,040 Speaker 1: a chance for two years now, No one year because 1765 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,800 Speaker 1: Frank Right's only been there year. Well yeah, Frank's but 1766 01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean he's been as as it'll be interest and 1767 01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,840 Speaker 1: see how he plays. I think he has opportunity. I 1768 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:27,840 Speaker 1: like him. I love the trade when they did it, 1769 01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,559 Speaker 1: and I think he has a chance. How about I'm 1770 01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,320 Speaker 1: just gonna ask this off the cuff, um your a 1771 01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:43,160 Speaker 1: FC South power rankings right now. You gotta change the 1772 01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:48,720 Speaker 1: culture now for to me, even with even with all 1773 01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,120 Speaker 1: the things you just said about it, they're still okay. 1774 01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:57,240 Speaker 1: You know. Uh, I would say Titans are three and 1775 01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:00,479 Speaker 1: football coin between the Jacks and the Texans. M hmm. 1776 01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,839 Speaker 1: But you and I might flip the Colts in the Titans. 1777 01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,880 Speaker 1: Tell me you're ranking again, Tom gonna flip it. I'm 1778 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:11,000 Speaker 1: gonna change it Titans for Colts three, and then flip 1779 01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:12,920 Speaker 1: a coin between the Jags and the Texas. I'd be 1780 01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:18,880 Speaker 1: the same, right, that's fair. I think the losing luck change. 1781 01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:24,479 Speaker 1: I would have put the healthy Andrew lucky, would have 1782 01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,800 Speaker 1: put them one in the division. Pre See. Let me 1783 01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,439 Speaker 1: just ranking was just you know, doesn't it doesn't matter 1784 01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,680 Speaker 1: in the grand scheme. They's just curious. But that's a 1785 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,200 Speaker 1: that's a pretty big deal. Now, and then you also 1786 01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:37,920 Speaker 1: factor in the loss of a running back in Houston. 1787 01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:40,439 Speaker 1: That's not as big a deal. No, no, no, no, 1788 01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:44,600 Speaker 1: there's quarterback, but he's but he's a guy, right, and 1789 01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:46,800 Speaker 1: they we're gonna have kind of a two headed running 1790 01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,240 Speaker 1: into the rushing attack behind an offensive line that's not 1791 01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:51,560 Speaker 1: very good. That takes pressure off of them trying to 1792 01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,439 Speaker 1: protect their quarterback. That's that's kind of a big deal. 1793 01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:56,360 Speaker 1: It's not like a quarterback, but it's but it's a 1794 01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,280 Speaker 1: big deal. Still the starting running back listen Lamar Lamar 1795 01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:02,519 Speaker 1: Miller at best was the third most important person, I 1796 01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:07,920 Speaker 1: mean third DeShawn the DeShawn Watson the quarterback and uh 1797 01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,760 Speaker 1: Hopkins the receiver. I mean, if they lost one of 1798 01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,040 Speaker 1: those two, I'd be concerned. Clowning in in there yet 1799 01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:17,120 Speaker 1: either no, he's not. It's a big one. Has not 1800 01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:21,120 Speaker 1: signed so and there's been talk about maybe a trade 1801 01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:24,600 Speaker 1: could could that happen for Trent Williams, who is the 1802 01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:28,519 Speaker 1: unhappy Washington Redskins left tackle. Well, the Skins say they're 1803 01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:32,600 Speaker 1: not getting rid of him. They want him. That's what 1804 01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:41,080 Speaker 1: they said. THEO everybody, okay, prices. Here's how you notice 1805 01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:44,920 Speaker 1: it's bs because the rumor was put out that the 1806 01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:49,640 Speaker 1: Patriots offered a future one and that they turned it down. Well, 1807 01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,120 Speaker 1: there was later that came out that wasn't true. It 1808 01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:55,360 Speaker 1: wasn't true from the Patriots standpoint, but the Redskins probably 1809 01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,480 Speaker 1: put it out there just so that they could broadcast 1810 01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:04,080 Speaker 1: in an indirect way for business are I don't have 1811 01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,920 Speaker 1: anything against I just think that the way they operate 1812 01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:08,800 Speaker 1: as a joke although if I have the Texans, I 1813 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:10,760 Speaker 1: make the phone call because I don't think they're gonna 1814 01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:14,120 Speaker 1: be a Clowney in. They're not gonna pay him. If 1815 01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,439 Speaker 1: they get Trent Williams, who's had a bunch of injuries. 1816 01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:19,400 Speaker 1: That the perfect thing that Dan Snyder would do, though, yeah, 1817 01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:21,840 Speaker 1: is to sign a guy like Clowney. What do you 1818 01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:26,439 Speaker 1: think you like that? Trade that a guest joining us 1819 01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:29,759 Speaker 1: at the studio unnamed guests, uh in and out quickly. 1820 01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,040 Speaker 1: There you have it, though the AFC sout just kind 1821 01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,720 Speaker 1: of some big headlines over the last two three four. 1822 01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,800 Speaker 1: The Texans have issues, though I don't think that. I 1823 01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,120 Speaker 1: don't think I don't think the texts are great up front, 1824 01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:46,200 Speaker 1: But quarterback, if the best receiver maybe in football, defense 1825 01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be good. It does if they don''t Clowney, 1826 01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,720 Speaker 1: it takes him a notch down. If Clowney doesn't get 1827 01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:55,080 Speaker 1: in there doesn't show up. I would put Jacks one 1828 01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,160 Speaker 1: because I think the defense is insane. He is so 1829 01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:01,160 Speaker 1: disruptive on defense. He is now that he's healthy and 1830 01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:03,439 Speaker 1: then ready to play, he was disruptive. I mean the 1831 01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,800 Speaker 1: last two years he caused. His numbers aren't great, but 1832 01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,839 Speaker 1: he just like beats up people. It's in the backfield, 1833 01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,920 Speaker 1: and guys are gonna free because of them. How about you, 1834 01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:17,400 Speaker 1: Jamie Rankings, Um, yeah, Colts still one, No, at the bottom. 1835 01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:21,519 Speaker 1: We're starting from the bottom. Colts down low. Tennessee is 1836 01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,160 Speaker 1: right there too. But the sole the thing for me 1837 01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:25,880 Speaker 1: is that the Jags somehow I have to figure out 1838 01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,040 Speaker 1: this Tennessee. They're gonna be You know what the word 1839 01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:33,280 Speaker 1: is in Tennessee. You're already locked, Okay, the word. The 1840 01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,120 Speaker 1: word in Tennessee is that Mario is getting out played 1841 01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:42,840 Speaker 1: right right. You're watching the game behind the guy that Yeah, 1842 01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:47,000 Speaker 1: that wouldn't surprise me. But but the Jags still have 1843 01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:50,639 Speaker 1: issues with him. No, not this year. God is stopped 1844 01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:55,160 Speaker 1: being negative saying it's the problems right now. Lock it 1845 01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,920 Speaker 1: right now. The Titans go down in the division. The Titans, 1846 01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna lock that to both games because the jag Wars, 1847 01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:06,960 Speaker 1: jag Wars will beat them here and in Nashville. Take 1848 01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:14,439 Speaker 1: it to the bank. What's the date today? Block SoundBite it? 1849 01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,960 Speaker 1: Thank you the first lock of the year. Give me 1850 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:22,519 Speaker 1: Titans Colts Texans Jags four to one. Jackson the top 1851 01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:25,920 Speaker 1: you the defense. Mainly, we don't know what the offense 1852 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:27,760 Speaker 1: really is yet, but you have a feeling that can 1853 01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,240 Speaker 1: be good if guys are healthy. You know, it was 1854 01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,680 Speaker 1: last year when guys were healthy early saw was it 1855 01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:35,960 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated that have the Jacksons a five win team 1856 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:39,040 Speaker 1: this year? Yeah, there's people picking five six wins for 1857 01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,960 Speaker 1: the Jacks and Nick who knows had five last year? Well, 1858 01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:43,639 Speaker 1: last year they were all getting picked. They were picking 1859 01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:45,920 Speaker 1: the Jackson with the super Bowl. This year there, so 1860 01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,479 Speaker 1: let's hope that. Uh yeah, but they got a Super 1861 01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:50,400 Speaker 1: Bowl m v P now playing quarterback. Le's hope they're 1862 01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,479 Speaker 1: wrong both times. I hope they're wrong. Last year that's 1863 01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,600 Speaker 1: something the're wrong. This year, we'll come back. We'll go 1864 01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,120 Speaker 1: around the National Football League the rest of it. Since 1865 01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,920 Speaker 1: we've already touched the ANC sound, we can continue our 1866 01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:02,519 Speaker 1: you know, like the Tennessee Titans, you can lock some 1867 01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:04,800 Speaker 1: more things. The Tennessee Titans is an interesting team to 1868 01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:07,840 Speaker 1: me because I like Mariota. I'm just not I mean, 1869 01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:09,680 Speaker 1: Jeff was high on him coming out. I was not. 1870 01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:14,200 Speaker 1: I I'm a franchise guy. Coming out. I don't think 1871 01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:18,120 Speaker 1: he went generational generational, but I did say that I 1872 01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:20,680 Speaker 1: would take him over Jameis Winston. Yes, and I said 1873 01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:26,519 Speaker 1: I would not. I was right. Um so yes, everyone 1874 01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:28,799 Speaker 1: in the NFL would take Jamis Winston more than Mariota. 1875 01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:30,680 Speaker 1: Look at their numbers. I don't know about that. The 1876 01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:34,600 Speaker 1: football season is I don't take to pick right now. 1877 01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:39,839 Speaker 1: You're the GM, Don Mariota. We're running the box offense. 1878 01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,760 Speaker 1: We're not. We don't need a quarterback football. You can't 1879 01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:46,800 Speaker 1: tell me Jamis Jamis, Thank you, thank you. Football season 1880 01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:48,600 Speaker 1: heating up, just no letter place to cool off on 1881 01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:52,160 Speaker 1: game day. 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Well 1950 01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:58,840 Speaker 1: they could have. But if you get a guy seen 1951 01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:03,120 Speaker 1: the highlights some of their preseason action, they have like 1952 01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:05,160 Speaker 1: eight guys who were in like four or three. They're 1953 01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:09,439 Speaker 1: just run around everywhere, right they are. They are fast 1954 01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,840 Speaker 1: about so you know all this talk about and we 1955 01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:13,400 Speaker 1: talked about this a couple of weeks ago when the 1956 01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:16,040 Speaker 1: Jags didn't play the starters the first two weeks. Well, 1957 01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:18,840 Speaker 1: here's what homes going out there scrambling around they play 1958 01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,040 Speaker 1: they played every week, by the way, diving towards the 1959 01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:24,280 Speaker 1: end zone. And I mean it's that. That was the dumbest, 1960 01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:27,680 Speaker 1: dumbest scramble I have ever seen in the NFL. It's 1961 01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:29,360 Speaker 1: a real game. He might try to die for the 1962 01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:30,800 Speaker 1: end zone. I think he slid at the end of 1963 01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:32,720 Speaker 1: the one yard line or something, but that kind of 1964 01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:34,960 Speaker 1: for the m v P. Man and Reid had a 1965 01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:37,280 Speaker 1: little talking to with him about that. But I mean 1966 01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:40,439 Speaker 1: that was they have they have a lot of weapons 1967 01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:42,760 Speaker 1: and uh, but Jeff, I mean how much what do 1968 01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:44,479 Speaker 1: you think about that though? I mean they're literally playing 1969 01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:46,920 Speaker 1: those guys every week for the first three weeks. I 1970 01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,400 Speaker 1: doubt to play week four. But well, I mean, is 1971 01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:52,200 Speaker 1: it the right answer for them? Men? Maybe is it 1972 01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,320 Speaker 1: the right answer for this team? Maybe? You know, I thought, 1973 01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:57,080 Speaker 1: like I said before, I kind of sit on the fence, 1974 01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,280 Speaker 1: well on this issue. Whether you whether you should or 1975 01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:04,200 Speaker 1: should not play, that's a sea like give an opinion, 1976 01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:07,600 Speaker 1: let's go. I mean in some in some instances, I 1977 01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:11,479 Speaker 1: want to see the Jaguars play that. I mean, this 1978 01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,040 Speaker 1: is the best. I wouldn't I wouldn't do that. I 1979 01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:16,720 Speaker 1: would not play them every game. And I think that's 1980 01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:18,800 Speaker 1: a mistake by Andy Reid. I thought you were talking 1981 01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:23,240 Speaker 1: about No, I'm talking about I would I mean, I 1982 01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:25,160 Speaker 1: just I wouldn't do that. I mean, look, it's it's 1983 01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:27,880 Speaker 1: it's a different NFL with the amount of talent that 1984 01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:31,880 Speaker 1: you have and and the quality of your backups. And look, 1985 01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,200 Speaker 1: maybe they're different. They feel like they've got great backups, 1986 01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:38,200 Speaker 1: but most teams don't. And you're talking about the best 1987 01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:41,160 Speaker 1: young quarterback in football that just made a decision that 1988 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:45,120 Speaker 1: could have cost him in the organization greatly if somebody 1989 01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:47,960 Speaker 1: were to whack them in that instant. So to me, 1990 01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:52,760 Speaker 1: it's all about and I would agree, Jeff, I know, 1991 01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:57,960 Speaker 1: I see no reward. Um. I liked him playing like 1992 01:47:58,000 --> 01:47:59,640 Speaker 1: I would have played Nick Foles in that offense in 1993 01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,439 Speaker 1: week so I'm fine with him playing Week two, Week three. 1994 01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't think you need to play one or four. 1995 01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:08,280 Speaker 1: Going back to the last time we had the power 1996 01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,280 Speaker 1: rankings AFC South Power Rankings, our first edition which we'll 1997 01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:16,679 Speaker 1: have on this showed what did you lock it? Undefeated? Locked? 1998 01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:20,080 Speaker 1: I locked the Jags would beat, would sweep the Titans. 1999 01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:22,760 Speaker 1: And the reason I bring this up is that in 2000 01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:26,320 Speaker 1: in my power rankings, the first thing I said was that, well, 2001 01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:29,320 Speaker 1: the Jags gotta get past this Titans thing. Well, this 2002 01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:31,800 Speaker 1: Titans thing is that the Titans have won six of 2003 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:34,160 Speaker 1: the last seven meetings against the Jaguars. You know what 2004 01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:38,680 Speaker 1: that means for this year? Not much, nothing, nothing. It 2005 01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,600 Speaker 1: means as much as you allow to meet as a team. Like, 2006 01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:43,639 Speaker 1: if you want to go dwell back and think back, 2007 01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,920 Speaker 1: what's happened to pass? The last thing I remember Derrick 2008 01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:49,439 Speaker 1: Henry running ninety nine and a half. I guess this 2009 01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:53,519 Speaker 1: team come Thursday night of Week three for week two 2010 01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:57,120 Speaker 1: week is that we played three Week three after Houston 2011 01:48:57,240 --> 01:49:00,560 Speaker 1: Thursday night here. None of that. That doesn't matter. It 2012 01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:03,920 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what happened last year. I'm a firm believer 2013 01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:05,760 Speaker 1: in that. I think we make too much of that 2014 01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:09,920 Speaker 1: streaks and all this stuff. It's nonsense. I would like 2015 01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:13,679 Speaker 1: if you allowed to affect you, it will well, whether 2016 01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,200 Speaker 1: it's affected a team or not. The reality is the 2017 01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:18,120 Speaker 1: numbers aren't lying. No, no, I'm not saying that, but 2018 01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:20,000 Speaker 1: it shouldn't. What does it have to do what happened 2019 01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:21,840 Speaker 1: last year or two years ago, five years ago or 2020 01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:23,360 Speaker 1: ten years ago. What does it have to do with this? 2021 01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:26,240 Speaker 1: They need to bring you in and talk to the 2022 01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:29,960 Speaker 1: team the night before the game. Bring me in. I 2023 01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:33,719 Speaker 1: have a very small number. One Jaggar of all time 2024 01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:36,240 Speaker 1: is here. I'll wave it for them because that's how 2025 01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:39,000 Speaker 1: much I hate the Titans. I've locked it, so I need, 2026 01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:42,360 Speaker 1: I need to participate in this. You did lock it. 2027 01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:46,160 Speaker 1: I just like, what does it mean? Like for Nick 2028 01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,559 Speaker 1: Foles who was in Philly last year, what does he care? 2029 01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:56,120 Speaker 1: A rap retired, now, didn't they? Derek morgansill there, I'm 2030 01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:58,800 Speaker 1: pretty sure I think he retired. Derek Morgan retired, he's 2031 01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:01,479 Speaker 1: he retired to I don't know. My point is it 2032 01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:06,000 Speaker 1: does not matter. Like Nick Foles wasn't even here. That's 2033 01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:07,920 Speaker 1: why they picked up Cameron. You know who lost to 2034 01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:12,479 Speaker 1: the Titans last year. The Eagles think about that for 2035 01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:14,479 Speaker 1: a while. So falls does know about the type? No, 2036 01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:18,000 Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. Okay, Josh Allen was in Kentucky 2037 01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:22,439 Speaker 1: last year. Who cares? None of it matters. Well, didn't 2038 01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:29,879 Speaker 1: he lose the Tennessee Okay, I'm trying, not working the volunteer. 2039 01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:32,720 Speaker 1: Kentucky actually bet him las year. Yeah, I don't think 2040 01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,800 Speaker 1: volunteers are whipping much of anybody. Right now. Let's try, 2041 01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:39,200 Speaker 1: let's come, let's continue, let's go around the National Football League. 2042 01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:44,120 Speaker 1: We're not taking another commercial. Um. Let's start off with 2043 01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:49,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Chung pleading not guilty to cocaine possession charges. Rainment 2044 01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:51,800 Speaker 1: scheduled for this week. Next court appearance November eight. So 2045 01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:53,559 Speaker 1: what was the story? Did they come into his house 2046 01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:55,320 Speaker 1: and found the cook like he had a break in 2047 01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:58,240 Speaker 1: or something I read and then the police came in 2048 01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:01,760 Speaker 1: or like, how do they find coke? I don't know, 2049 01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,280 Speaker 1: but but it was it happened back in like June 2050 01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,400 Speaker 1: a while back, yeah or something. Look at the details. 2051 01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,800 Speaker 1: I want to know how they found it. What is you? 2052 01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:13,559 Speaker 1: We'll get to that, yes, But what matters because that's 2053 01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:15,439 Speaker 1: his whole defense. He's gonna have some defense that it 2054 01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:19,000 Speaker 1: wasn't his couse in New Hampshire. Um, the arrangment was 2055 01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:22,559 Speaker 1: scheduled for this week. He waved it, uh, and we'll 2056 01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:24,040 Speaker 1: get the d I gotta I gotta dig through the 2057 01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:26,920 Speaker 1: d's a little bit more. But for the point, that's 2058 01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,280 Speaker 1: his defense. I it's not my coke. It was someone 2059 01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:35,840 Speaker 1: else's cocaine. So grand jury charge in June Meredith, New Hampshire, 2060 01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:39,200 Speaker 1: where Chung has a residence. So yeah, I thought I 2061 01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:43,040 Speaker 1: read somewhere. I don't want to say that's whatever. That's 2062 01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:45,360 Speaker 1: his defense, but it's not. It's not a good look. 2063 01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:49,560 Speaker 1: I hope it's I hope it's not his not not 2064 01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:52,320 Speaker 1: for him just to be get all for anything like that, 2065 01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:56,800 Speaker 1: just for his personal well being, because if he's using coke, 2066 01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:03,320 Speaker 1: it ain't gonna end good. I'll tell you that. Jacobe Brissette, 2067 01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:07,000 Speaker 1: we've mentioned the culture of the show right here, right, Um, well, 2068 01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:10,280 Speaker 1: he's the Colt starting quarterback now, you know Andrew Luck retired. Really, 2069 01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:12,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys heard the start of 2070 01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:17,400 Speaker 1: the show, but apparently Brissette does not have an official agent, 2071 01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:22,759 Speaker 1: so apparently agents around the league or bringing his phone 2072 01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:24,920 Speaker 1: off the hook, I'm sure trying to get him up 2073 01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:27,519 Speaker 1: board about that. Yeah, I'm sure. Fact though, when we 2074 01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,560 Speaker 1: were down in Miami, we saw one of the Powerhouse 2075 01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:34,479 Speaker 1: agents in the hotel. So I'm on the sideline, which 2076 01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:37,479 Speaker 1: is Drew Rosenhouse and I don't know how many clients. 2077 01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:41,040 Speaker 1: That guy's got a lot, but he can. I don't know. 2078 01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:42,560 Speaker 1: If there's a person on the plant that does a 2079 01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:45,240 Speaker 1: better job of managing people than him, he's goot, Boris 2080 01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:49,360 Speaker 1: Baseball has a lot as well. It probably makes more 2081 01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:53,160 Speaker 1: money because the baseball contract. But that's about it. I mean, 2082 01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean in the NFL world, I mean Drew A. 2083 01:52:56,640 --> 01:53:01,040 Speaker 1: Rose now he is the man? Is he still the guy? Oh? Yeah, 2084 01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not saying I don't know. Is he 2085 01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:06,720 Speaker 1: still the biggest agent? I would say so, I have 2086 01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:09,240 Speaker 1: no idea. Yes, that's the question. I don't know who 2087 01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:14,639 Speaker 1: is But yeah, that's pretty pretty interesting. But else rest 2088 01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:19,040 Speaker 1: easy now, guys, Antonio Brown has multiple offers of helmet 2089 01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:22,080 Speaker 1: money is the crazy thing too. Brown is going to 2090 01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:26,080 Speaker 1: make cash from this fiasco of the player in the 2091 01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:29,200 Speaker 1: NFL that will have a helmet deal. Does any other 2092 01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,679 Speaker 1: player have a helmet deal in the NFL? I don't 2093 01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,479 Speaker 1: think they do. He's gonna be doing commercials for right 2094 01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:37,160 Speaker 1: l or whoever whoever. I think it's shut, isn't it 2095 01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:40,120 Speaker 1: shut because he wore a shut helmet before. No, nobody's 2096 01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:44,800 Speaker 1: saying for sure. He has multiple Yeah, he might have 2097 01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:49,120 Speaker 1: a new h U T T right for the highest bidder. 2098 01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:53,960 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown can speak about helmets for you and wear 2099 01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,120 Speaker 1: one on the field. I don't know if I mean 2100 01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:58,360 Speaker 1: the helmet company can do it because it's gonna be 2101 01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:02,160 Speaker 1: great publicity, make no a steak. But if you're if 2102 01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:05,439 Speaker 1: you're a company and you've seen Antonio brown behavior of 2103 01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:07,040 Speaker 1: the last two years, would you want him be in 2104 01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:11,360 Speaker 1: your spokesman? Well, here's the thing. Whoever gets him is 2105 01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:13,240 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of press. And at the end 2106 01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:17,240 Speaker 1: of the day, what are those helmet companies want brand? 2107 01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:19,920 Speaker 1: They want their brand out there. Well, with this whole 2108 01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:25,679 Speaker 1: idiotic craziness about a helmet and not missing, not showing 2109 01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:28,880 Speaker 1: up the practice and appeal. That's got to be one 2110 01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:32,040 Speaker 1: of the crazy stories ever in the NFL. But whoever 2111 01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:33,760 Speaker 1: he goes with, it's gonna get a lot of press 2112 01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:35,640 Speaker 1: and people are gonna be talking about. Name me a 2113 01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:39,800 Speaker 1: story that's been crazier than that this year. No, in 2114 01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:43,560 Speaker 1: the history of the league, the flight game, the how 2115 01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:46,440 Speaker 1: much air pressures in football, whether Tom Braidy that was 2116 01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:50,920 Speaker 1: way weird. Yeah, that was a weird That one went 2117 01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:54,800 Speaker 1: on and on. But think about a person like a 2118 01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:58,480 Speaker 1: personality in the NFL that's became a story like that. 2119 01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:01,600 Speaker 1: Is there an other one? Is? I mean? I mean, 2120 01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:03,920 Speaker 1: remember when Dion was playing, he was a story all 2121 01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:05,800 Speaker 1: the time, but not like this. I mean, this is 2122 01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:09,480 Speaker 1: this is craziness. I don't have to think back. It's 2123 01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:14,640 Speaker 1: it's just odd, a little different. Um, the Falcons want 2124 01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,160 Speaker 1: to get Julio Jones new contract done before the season. 2125 01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,520 Speaker 1: Do you think they will? Yeah, I think it's already done. 2126 01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:22,520 Speaker 1: I think it's just a matter of them. She's just 2127 01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:29,120 Speaker 1: breaking news, are breaking I'm breaking dot com Jeff is 2128 01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:33,640 Speaker 1: how many touchdowns does he average? Because you know you 2129 01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,240 Speaker 1: about to you talked to a lot of people, and 2130 01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:40,080 Speaker 1: his single digits touchdowns on yearly average, he had like 2131 01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:42,560 Speaker 1: one or two last year to the year before, not 2132 01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:45,240 Speaker 1: very many. So Tony, you just keep picking them in 2133 01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,720 Speaker 1: fantasy football on game days. So I'm going with an 2134 01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:51,720 Speaker 1: Tonio Brown new helmet. But would you do I still 2135 01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:56,840 Speaker 1: consider Julio the best receiver's number one, Hopkins Hopkins number one. 2136 01:55:57,400 --> 01:56:01,240 Speaker 1: If I'm picking a receiver four my team, it's DeAndre 2137 01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:04,840 Speaker 1: Hopkins is my first pick. Yep. Yeah, last year eight 2138 01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:10,360 Speaker 1: touchdowns for Julio three six, eight, six, two and then 2139 01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:12,840 Speaker 1: twelve he had ten. That's his high watermark. That was 2140 01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:14,800 Speaker 1: a second year in the league. Look at DeAndre Hopkins. 2141 01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:20,640 Speaker 1: Would you'd probably take Hopkins over Julio. I'll take down 2142 01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:24,560 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, Tyreek Hill, I'll take in town Odell Beckham 2143 01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:27,200 Speaker 1: if he's in my mind, I mean Odell like if 2144 01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:30,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna like when he's he's bawling, he's bawling, He's amazing. 2145 01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:39,200 Speaker 1: And that's a handful. That's the green healthyllis Jayla Ramsey 2146 01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:42,160 Speaker 1: getting in his head again. Now, Julio is very good. 2147 01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean he's anywhere from three to six, seven, eight, 2148 01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,080 Speaker 1: he's right there. Yeah, he's sitting there somewhere. But he's 2149 01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:49,960 Speaker 1: really good. He's not he's not worthy of being the 2150 01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:53,080 Speaker 1: top paid wide receiver in the league. In my opinion. 2151 01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:58,000 Speaker 1: That's how That's Hopkins, that's Tyreek Hill, that's Antonio Brown 2152 01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:02,360 Speaker 1: without the craziness with I can still do things. Very good, 2153 01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:07,400 Speaker 1: very good. He's an amazing athlete. Take your Alabama bias. 2154 01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:09,600 Speaker 1: Had had nothing to do with that. I'm just saying, like, 2155 01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:12,480 Speaker 1: just watching him. But if you look at and I'm 2156 01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:14,640 Speaker 1: gonna keep I keep on saying his name, DeAndre Hopkins. 2157 01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:17,920 Speaker 1: If you look what he's done with the quarterbacks he's 2158 01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:21,080 Speaker 1: had to play with and the numbers he puts up, right, 2159 01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:24,600 Speaker 1: could you imagine if DeAndre Hopkins had Matt Ryan who 2160 01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,440 Speaker 1: did not have a drop last year, but it put 2161 01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:29,280 Speaker 1: him with one of these big time quarterback Hopkins did 2162 01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:32,560 Speaker 1: not have a drop. And it's not like Hopkins with 2163 01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:37,240 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberg. He's had a rotation of quarterbacks, bad offensive line, 2164 01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:43,080 Speaker 1: fill in the blanks. Help. Uh. The NFL and the 2165 01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:46,000 Speaker 1: NFL p A are meeting for a seventh cb A 2166 01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:50,600 Speaker 1: full bargaining session tonight and tomorrow in Chicago. They're saying 2167 01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:52,400 Speaker 1: a new deal before the start of the year is unlikely, 2168 01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:55,280 Speaker 1: but talks are moving in a positive direction. The CBA 2169 01:57:55,360 --> 01:58:00,480 Speaker 1: expires after and remember the Christian Um early while back 2170 01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:02,840 Speaker 1: said he would want it to have a deal done 2171 01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:05,360 Speaker 1: before the season. Sounds like we're getting close now, but 2172 01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,600 Speaker 1: they're still meeting and moving ahead before this season or 2173 01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:12,680 Speaker 1: before this season. I think the more season doesn't make 2174 01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:18,720 Speaker 1: sure it's done because after then you're going crazy lockout 2175 01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:22,280 Speaker 1: and everything else. So I hope it gets done. I 2176 01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:24,120 Speaker 1: hope because I don't see any reason why I can't 2177 01:58:24,120 --> 01:58:26,880 Speaker 1: get done considering what the league went through the last 2178 01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,520 Speaker 1: time this happened. I wasn't in the league then, but 2179 01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:31,840 Speaker 1: just watching it from the outside, just the you don't 2180 01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:34,960 Speaker 1: want to be on that storyline of lockouts and this 2181 01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:37,760 Speaker 1: is bad for business. Every really wasn't. How bad was it? 2182 01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:41,720 Speaker 1: Like what happened? It's just the negative you don't want 2183 01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:44,560 Speaker 1: everywhere where they came back and played football, nothing happened. 2184 01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:48,640 Speaker 1: He's still the number one sport, number one American sport. 2185 01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's I get what you're saying. You 2186 01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:52,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like if you don't, if it, 2187 01:58:54,960 --> 01:58:56,720 Speaker 1: if you can avoid it, great. The only time we're 2188 01:58:56,840 --> 01:59:00,320 Speaker 1: to get negative. You start taking games away from the impact, 2189 01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:01,840 Speaker 1: then it's an impact they put the way that even 2190 01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:05,600 Speaker 1: it was an annoyance last or seven, eight years ago, 2191 01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:08,920 Speaker 1: whatever it was. Um, but I think it gets done 2192 01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:12,080 Speaker 1: during the season or the next offseason before I think 2193 01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:14,400 Speaker 1: it's done for sure before the twin point season, it'll 2194 01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:16,000 Speaker 1: be done. The big question is is what are they 2195 01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:21,000 Speaker 1: do with preseason and are they going to from They 2196 01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:24,360 Speaker 1: got to addressed the preseason games. They got to agree, Jeff, 2197 01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:27,040 Speaker 1: and then they don't need to change the regular season. Actually, 2198 01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:29,720 Speaker 1: I probably would mean towards Jeff and not too alright, 2199 01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:32,640 Speaker 1: Fellas Tony, well done, Hey blogs, thanks for thanks for 2200 01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:34,920 Speaker 1: coming in, Jeff, way to go. Let's get out of 2201 01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:37,680 Speaker 1: my seat. Best show of the year, Joe Fortunato, Brent 2202 01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:40,320 Speaker 1: Raybram JP Shadow will see you next time. It's Jaguars 2203 01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:42,480 Speaker 1: Happy Hour the Jaguars Digital Network