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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Simis podcast. It is

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Speaker 2: just me today. I mean Ben's on here, but it's

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Speaker 2: not just me. We have our quote Grandma of the Week, Marcy.

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Speaker 2: She's joining me for the entire recap today. Marcy is

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Speaker 2: part of the iHeart family and I hear that. So

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Speaker 2: you are a grandma?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Okay? Why why hesitation?

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Speaker 3: Well because my stepsons have a child. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 3: my daughter she's thirty three, but she's still.

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Speaker 2: Waiting, gotcha. It's okay. I was thirty three when I

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Speaker 2: have my kid, and you know you're ready. When you're

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Speaker 2: ready changes your life, sure freaking does. So we are

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Speaker 2: recapping episode three together, and let's just start from the well,

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Speaker 2: let's start with just like your thoughts overall on this

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Speaker 2: season of are.

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Speaker 3: I am enjoying it much more than I enjoyed the

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Speaker 3: previous episodes of just the Regular Bachelor because the girls

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Speaker 3: are much more mature, so you don't get the whining

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Speaker 3: and crying like you do in the other Bachelor episodes.

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Speaker 3: And what I really love it about it is that

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Speaker 3: the girls are very supportive of one another which you

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Speaker 3: don't see that often. That may change as feelings get

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Speaker 3: hurt and progressed down the line, but it's very nice

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Speaker 3: to see. In the first three episodes of Everybody was

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Speaker 3: pretty much supportive.

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Speaker 2: You're sixty five, but yeah, so how do you relate

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Speaker 2: to this group of women?

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Speaker 3: I relate because I almost signed up for the show.

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Speaker 3: I almost did. I filled out all application and then

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Speaker 3: I it was so soon and I wasn't going to

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Speaker 3: be able to get away. But maybe next time. But

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Speaker 3: I'm single, I'm a widow. I'm sixty five, so I'm

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Speaker 3: in dating age range of all these same women, and

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Speaker 3: I'm finding it fascinating to see how others handle dating.

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Speaker 3: I know how I handle it, but I'm never on

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Speaker 3: a date with somebody else. So this gives me the

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Speaker 3: opportunity to watch.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel it all jealous? Watching these women with Gary,

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Speaker 2: who's just a wonderful man?

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Speaker 3: I am. I was thinking last night, where did they

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Speaker 3: find him?

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Speaker 2: Where? Every week I am more and more mind boggled

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Speaker 2: how they found the perfect man for this job.

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Speaker 3: He is so sensitive and intuitive and caring, and he

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Speaker 3: makes a connection with each person, and I'm wondering, is

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Speaker 3: this real? He's like the epitome.

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Speaker 2: I know he is like, Oh, he is not afraid

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Speaker 2: to cry either, and it's in an adorable way. It's

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Speaker 2: not in a like you know, you know tears with men.

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Speaker 2: Women interterpret it in a complicated way. Sometimes we love it,

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Speaker 2: sometimes we don't want it. But you were saying that

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Speaker 2: you are refreshed by the fact that the ladies aren't

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Speaker 2: so much crying. You don't like the drama and the

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Speaker 2: normal show, and you like the way this has been

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Speaker 2: more romance focused.

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, because when you get older, you don't want

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Speaker 3: the drama in your life. You don't have the patience

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Speaker 3: for it. And you know, when you're watching these twenty

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Speaker 3: year olds going oh, I love him after they've dated

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Speaker 3: him one time, it's a little silly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't you think that these women are sort

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Speaker 2: of doing the same.

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Speaker 3: I know, I was, I know I noticed that last

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Speaker 3: night's episode. Yeah, because he's facilitating a connection with each

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Speaker 3: person individually. He's making it sound like there's something each

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Speaker 2: But you don't you don't feel that that's what happens

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Speaker 3: Yes, it does. Yes, of course there's similarities.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay, let's talk about the one aspect of

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Speaker 2: drama that there was this episode, and it was the

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Speaker 2: first conflict we had we had amongst women. So first,

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Speaker 2: Kathy the beginning of the episode forms a group. She

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Speaker 2: calls it Asking. It's April, Susan, Kathy, and Nancy, and

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Speaker 2: And Kathy is just there. The memes are out there,

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Speaker 2: much like Caitlyn Jenner. I cannot think it's not you know,

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Speaker 2: I just feel like I've watched Kitlyn Jenner create an

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Speaker 3: Oh is that funny? But it didn't really go to

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Speaker 3: I was actually like expecting a lot more of that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't really see them form as a click,

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Speaker 2: which I'm really happy because I was a little concerned

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Speaker 2: basically they're like a little circle of friends. And I

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Speaker 2: do like all those women, Okay, but basically Gary, it's

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Speaker 2: very cute, very cute. But Kathy's definitely are a dramatic

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Speaker 2: the Rose ceremony, where like you kind of just hang

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Speaker 2: Teresa starts just opening up to her about the connection

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Speaker 2: that she has with Gary and how great he is

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Speaker 2: to her and how romantic their date was. Last week

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Speaker 2: when you were watching this unfold, what was your takeaway?

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Speaker 3: I could see both sides of me too. Why there's

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Speaker 3: kind of I know Teresa is thinking that this is

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Speaker 3: she's talking about her experiences.

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Speaker 2: But she forgot I think there's two.

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Speaker 3: Times you're dating the same guy. She's frigiding death fading

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like, oh my gosh, this is the first

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Speaker 2: do have to I will have to wonder whether she

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Speaker 3: I don't believe so. I think she only opened up

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Speaker 3: Think she really realized what she was doing. I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not down with that. Yeah I wasn't. I

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Speaker 2: in the Bachelor House. Now what boggled my mind was

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Speaker 2: after the rose ceremony, both ladies get roses, and then

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Speaker 2: Teresa turns to Kathy again and starts talking about the

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Speaker 2: And again I actually don't think she had. And this

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Speaker 2: It wasn't that dramatic, but that's when the issue had

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Speaker 2: been raised with Gary and the other women. And she

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Speaker 2: and I don't think they could possibly be with intent.

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Speaker 2: I think the woman is spacey.

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Speaker 3: I think so. I think so That's why I said

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Speaker 3: I don't think she's doing let's just say she just

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Speaker 3: has no clue. Somebody has to Maybe the producers should

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Speaker 3: tell her, but then again they.

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Speaker 2: Like, no, no, the producers want her to continue doing

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Speaker 3: Its personalities, What can you say? You know, you can't

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: I think she's just the kind of person that probably

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Speaker 2: just kind of shares everything about her life with whoever

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but too much, too much information is never a

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Speaker 2: These dates have gone too fast. That's why I've forgotten them,

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Speaker 2: because the show really showed in this episode to me

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Speaker 2: they were so small. We didn't get any We got

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Speaker 2: barely any conversation, to the point of which with Jones

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Speaker 2: and before you know it, he's handing her the rose.

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Speaker 2: But let's go in consequential order now. It starts with

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Speaker 2: a group date rows and when I found out that

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Speaker 2: like all the ladies were going to go on this date,

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Speaker 2: I was immediately assuming that it would turn into one

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Speaker 2: of those dates where the winner of the activity would

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Speaker 2: go on the one on one and that's what happens.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna whoever wins the Talent Show goes to have

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Speaker 2: a dinner date with him later in the day.

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Speaker 3: They're almost like monkey performers, you know, for you know,

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Speaker 2: I know, well, the ladies really showed up. They did

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Speaker 2: a great job.

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Speaker 3: I know, at last minute they were able to pull

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See, I really am just like thinking, what the hell

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Speaker 2: Meet me too. Every time they do a talent I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I have nothing. Do you want me to write to

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Speaker 2: makes it like, literally that sounds so dumb. I'm like

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Speaker 2: thinking about my like my talents anyway. Okay, so the

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Speaker 2: Talent Show would we would have seen more of this

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Speaker 2: get with The Bachelor, we would have seen them coming

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Speaker 2: up with their ideas and rehearsing. But in the version

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Speaker 2: They arrived to the theater and they are ready to go.

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Speaker 2: That I'll tell you, guys, there was definitely some rehearsal

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Speaker 2: that went on. So Sandra gets up first. She's telling jokes.

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Speaker 2: She's playing comedian Ellen Adorable. She teaches sex ed to

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Speaker 2: middle school students that that is a serious talent. Faith sings,

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Speaker 2: April also sings, Kathy does push ups, Nancy does a

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Speaker 2: whip cream hatch, whipped cream catch. I don't remember this,

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Speaker 3: She yes, she did put the whip cream in, did

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, April jokes, and I love this April joke.

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Speaker 2: She says, there's no age, there's just there's always, but

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Speaker 2: there's always botox. And I agree. There Leslie, it's obviously

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Speaker 2: like the standout performance because Leslie, we know dated Prince

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Speaker 2: and we know that she's a fitness instructor and a

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Speaker 2: did you think of her basically giving him a mini

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Speaker 2: lap dance.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was great. She was putting herself out there,

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Speaker 3: but he was not the man to do it with.

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Speaker 3: He has very protective tendencies. I have a psychology background.

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Speaker 2: So I was gonna say, tell me more about this,

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Speaker 2: and it sounds interesting.

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Speaker 3: Gravitates to the woman that he could help and be

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Speaker 3: her doing the lap dance was way too aggressive for him.

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Speaker 3: Other men might have loved it, but in this particular case,

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Speaker 2: I do think that there's a physical attraction there, because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing in the media of what it was.

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Speaker 4: That makes us feel better about it, all right. That

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Speaker 2: Well, now it's time for Ellen's one on one and

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Speaker 3: It's bad to happen. I'm looking for he gets. He

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's too bad to see her go, but I

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Speaker 2: It's all filmed. Did they chose not to put that

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Speaker 3: Is the regular bachelor two hours?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh, so why did they only do it. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: Isn't it shocking? You think like an hour long show

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Speaker 3: You're getting a consolidated version, and we need to see

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Speaker 2: We need way more conversations. We need to see way

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Speaker 3: No oh, because we want to form our own opinions

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Speaker 2: I know, I'm sure next season will be two hour

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Speaker 2: This is just my guess. This is just my guess.

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Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if they continued with.

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Speaker 3: The hour, because I want to sign up.

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Speaker 2: I know you got to sign up.

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Speaker 3: I want to sign up so bad.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, we will will teach you how to do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking for a lot of America.

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Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be so many applications for next season.

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Speaker 2: So if you need help pushing it along, you let

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Speaker 2: us know. Thank you. Thank you for coming on and

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Speaker 2: giving us all your opinions and recapping with me. We

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Speaker 2: really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you need me again, I'm here all right.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Marcy. We will will take you

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Speaker 2: up on that offer.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Nice meeting you, so nice meeting you.

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Speaker 2: All right, until next time, guys, I've been Ashley.

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