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Speaker 1: What's up? And everybody? Welcome to Draft Week.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's finally here, which is equal parts awesome and

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Speaker 2: equal parts oh my god, anxiety ridden because have I

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Speaker 2: done what I needed to do to get ready for

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Speaker 2: this weekend? I think I'm there. I think I'm there.

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Speaker 2: I am John Harris, your host, alongside the Voice of

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Speaker 2: the Texans, Mark Vandermuir. Mark, I think I'm there. Are

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Speaker 2: you ready? Are you there for Draft Week? Are you

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Speaker 2: ready for Draft Day?

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Speaker 3: I don't want to alarm you, but I was actually

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Speaker 3: doing some prep this weekend. Okay, so I thought it's

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Speaker 3: time to get started on this. This is let's stood

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Speaker 3: out about your prep. What were you prepping the night

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Speaker 3: before the final exam? It's time to start studying for

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Speaker 3: this course.

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Speaker 1: I think you know. No, I've been following all the

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Speaker 1: way through. Yeah, that's why when you said that, I

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Speaker 1: was like, but I've.

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Speaker 3: Been doing extra I've been reading about different position groups

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Speaker 3: and just getting other people's thoughts besides yours, because I

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Speaker 3: think it's good to get different opinions on things, just

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Speaker 3: so I can say, well, what about this?

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Speaker 1: You know, you know what Todd McShay says about him.

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Speaker 3: I know you love that It's like it's like arguing

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Speaker 3: this diet, don't do that.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden silence on the radio, John, would

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Speaker 2: you care to respond?

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Speaker 1: How?

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Speaker 2: Don't give a damn what McShay says. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think I think guys that are in what I like

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Speaker 2: just they know how they feel about guys. And I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm pretty straightforward. I'd like to think

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Speaker 2: how they'll be as you know, a Viking, a Patriot

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Speaker 1: And I'll give you my thoughts.

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Speaker 3: I'm not blowing smoke here, but I think you have

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Speaker 3: a number of advantages over a lot of these guys.

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Speaker 3: Number one, you played football. That's a pretty good help there.

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Speaker 3: You played, you played in college playing is good. Another

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Speaker 3: one is you live here in the building. And I

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Speaker 3: even you know, getting a drink with them, not a

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Speaker 3: have a different perspective than guys who are in their

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Speaker 3: can give you a lot of information.

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Speaker 1: I get it. But you know you've lived the game

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Speaker 1: in a way that a lot of these guys have.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the things that I like to think.

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Speaker 2: And I when I'm at the Senior Bowl, it's good

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Speaker 2: You can have three different guys in front of you

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Speaker 1: He has an NFL.

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Speaker 2: But like what they look like now, they're supposed to

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Speaker 2: look the way they go about their business.

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Speaker 3: Practice you watch, I mean every single practice. Yep, you're

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Speaker 3: you know, and look, mel God bless him. He's built

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Speaker 3: a whole career on this and basically, I want to say,

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Speaker 1: You know exactly.

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Speaker 3: Guys like Joel bushbomb are one thing, but Kiper made

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Speaker 3: So good for him, but great for you. You've got

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Speaker 3: great perspective on this stuff. But it also goes back

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Speaker 1: Nope.

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Speaker 2: You got injuries, You've got outside factors. You've got the

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Speaker 1: What he does, He's all round.

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Speaker 1: And he didn't last in the league four years. So

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Speaker 2: How about that? That's very cool. I do remember I

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Speaker 2: didn't have that ready. I looked that up. It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: holy cow.

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Speaker 1: I missed the game.

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Speaker 2: Holy cow, I missed the game, and I think in

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Speaker 2: this building, I think it's pretty clear, and we'll start here.

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Speaker 1: Demiko CJ.

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Speaker 2: Will went to the podium today and the three of

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Speaker 1: But if there's one thing that really kind of came out.

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Speaker 1: Gospel, if you will.

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Speaker 2: In fact, we'll talk with Henry Toatoya a little later

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Speaker 2: It's a really fun conversation with Henry that you'll definitely

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Speaker 2: Stick around for that. But that's what I took out

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Speaker 2: of it, Mark that we do things this way. If

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Speaker 1: Gonna get it out of you either way.

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Speaker 3: And Henry's going to give you a great perspective on

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Speaker 3: what it's like to be drafted and new in the

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Speaker 1: Yep, he's going into year three right now, he's been

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm looking at Will Anderson Junior up at

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Speaker 3: enough to remember Mario Williams number one overall, a Genevian Clowney,

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Speaker 3: Both of them were hampered by some injuries, but willis

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited about year three. And he's such a

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Speaker 1: You brought it up after they were done.

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Speaker 3: Hey, two years ago Draft Week Monday, we didn't even

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Speaker 3: he's got to be the number one overall pick. This

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Speaker 3: Be bad enough to get a guy like Will Anderson

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Speaker 3: junior because we won't draft that high, but well, the

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Speaker 3: number three and gets will Anderson Junior. Amazing And speaking

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Speaker 3: He had fun too, talking about the Rockets and Golden

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Speaker 3: real masterclass stuff for a guy who's handling himself at

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Speaker 3: multiple Pro Bowls. He's only going into year three. He's

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Speaker 3: still really a pup when you look.

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Speaker 1: At his age.

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Speaker 3: What is he gonna be twenty three, twenty four years old? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: my gosh. And it goes back to I know I

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Speaker 3: it's worth pressing that gratitude button and saying thank goodness,

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Speaker 3: we have a quarterback. It just look at all the

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Speaker 2: No answers, have no answers in this draft really to

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Speaker 3: I mean they have hope, but they barely have that

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Speaker 3: because Shadure, really, are you gonna go for that?

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it all works out, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, and you gotta you know how I feel, I

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Speaker 1: Cannot wait, Okay, so I saw this not this would

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Speaker 2: The crew at Bleacher Report chest some pretty good dudes.

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Speaker 1: I would not like that.

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Speaker 3: How many teams draft a running back in the first

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Speaker 3: Well, he'd have to wait because you're paying Gino. But

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Speaker 1: So to me, this is kind of a wild take.

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Speaker 2: And yet to your point, I think it might be

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Speaker 2: that would be surprising. Is no doubt New Orleans Saints

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Speaker 1: This smart thing to say. It's a great thing. Now

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he can be like, he's not disrespecting Daniel Jones

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a foreign competition in Indianapolis, so competition

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Speaker 3: So wait, more surprising the Giants take him, or that

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Speaker 3: Somehow they talk themselves into it. We're gonna get fired,

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Speaker 3: So Shane's son is gonna say, you don't have to

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Speaker 2: If I'm John Maher, I'm like, hey, man, I told

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Speaker 2: In fact, to Josh sh Milk from the Giants, and

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Speaker 3: Hell no, it was like see and Schmilk, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want you to tell me which of these trades,

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Speaker 2: Okay, right here, Falcons trade up for Penn State Edge

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Speaker 3: I'll help you with that one. Hell no, they don't

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Speaker 1: Michigan's tight end Colston Loveland. Isn't he gone by then?

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Speaker 2: By thirteen? I don't think I had him. I had

439
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 2: Loveland going to the Chargers at number twenty two.

440
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Speaker 1: Okay, you sold me. This is the most likely one.

441
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 1: I think that's likely.

442
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 2: YEA Raiders trade back into the first round, for sure,

443
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 2: Sanders like, I could see that for sure. That one

444
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 2: that makes sense, as does this one. New York Giants

445
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 2: trade up for quarterback Jaylen Milroe Wait trading up into.

446
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Speaker 1: The first right into the first round. Oh, I think

447
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,360
Speaker 1: that's that's outstanding.

448
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns trade back into the first round to

449
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,880
Speaker 2: get their firm new franchise quarterback, so they've got all

450
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 2: three of them. But here's the one right at the

451
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 2: very end that made me puke boy. The Philadelphia Eagles

452
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 2: trade up into the top twenty to select Alabama right

453
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 2: guard Tyler Booker.

454
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 1: Oh, and they jump to Minnesota's pick at twenty.

455
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Mark, I will lose it. I will

456
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 2: cry on the edge. Will not let it happen. It

457
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 2: will not let this happen. This happened to some previous nmes.

458
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 2: It will not happen to Nick Cassario. Listen, Quescy, you

459
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 2: are in the NFC. You cannot trade with the Eagles.

460
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 2: Just call Nick and say Nick, look how he's calling.

461
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 2: He wants to come up for Booker. What do you

462
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,959
Speaker 2: gotta do? One pick? What's it going to be? All right,

463
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 2: we'll give you next year fourth or whatever? Okay, one pick?

464
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 1: Good? Make the deal. Do not do not let Philadelphia

465
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: up for Booker. What did Rick trade? Hitting me?

466
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 3: What did Rick trade to get up to It wasn't

467
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 3: like a sixth, Yeah it was.

468
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 1: It's not a fourth. It's not one spot that's well

469
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: worth it.

470
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 2: It definitely is well worth it. Biggest deal of the draft.

471
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 2: These are all kind of guys off the beaten path.

472
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: In some sense.

473
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 2: I could see any of these guys in the Texans

474
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,400
Speaker 2: quin Shawn Judkins, Willhouse Stay running back, Jalen Walker from

475
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 2: Georgia at Texas went draft him.

476
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: Uh, Kyle Williams Washington State's guy. I love.

477
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 2: Ozzie Trabillo played for your guy, Bill O'Brien at Boston

478
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 2: College like a tackle.

479
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 1: Harold Fanning from Bowling Green. He's got a number of

480
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 1: guys who are gonna get picked at this draft.

481
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Donovan is a rocker who's gonna go probably late first,

482
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 2: early second, good edge players.

483
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 3: What were all those years the Longhorns had like one

484
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: guy or no players.

485
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,719
Speaker 2: Picked in some cases, this year it's like a dozen.

486
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: It might be a dozen.

487
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Speaker 1: But BC's got guys going. Okay, if it's like I

488
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: could have to them.

489
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 2: Cam Horsley is Steven's tackle, donovs Roku Pete Kendall son.

490
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: Remember Pee Kendall played at BC ninety three. I think

491
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 2: it was his son. Drew Kendall is a center as

492
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,719
Speaker 2: a Trapillo. Steve Trapillo's son plays right tackle. H that's four,

493
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: I know for sure. That might be a couple others

494
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: that might be like five or six. Come on, BC,

495
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: good job finished six and six, so you know, uh,

496
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 2: But here here are their hottest Here their hottest draft

497
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: draft takes. Yeah, the Cleveland Brown should trade down from

498
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 2: one from number two overall, but won't.

499
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate that because yeah, they.

500
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 3: Can get they can get Carter, or they're gonna draft

501
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Speaker 3: Hunter if they they draft.

502
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 2: But still they won't trade down because is there a

503
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: trade worth trading down? Two to tangle, I don't like

504
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: these the the right Well, you should trade down.

505
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: The Texans should trade down.

506
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you gotta have you give us the partner. Yeah,

507
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 2: who's the partner. Who's the partner that wants to go

508
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 2: back up? That's that's the other one. Despite all the

509
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: valid concerns surrounding him. Should her Sanders is absolutely worth

510
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: the risk in the middle of the first round, middle

511
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: of the first round.

512
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe. I guess here's the thing.

513
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: If you go in the middle of the first round,

514
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 2: or you go middle of late first round, you're better

515
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: off because you're going to a better team. You would

516
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: think you might be the piece they're not, and you've

517
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: got things surrounding you already. They don't have to build

518
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 2: it up and you don't have to carry the team.

519
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: That might be better for Shadure more running backs and

520
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: tight ends going round one than quarterbacks.

521
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: And wide receivers.

522
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 3: That's that's wild to think about, because I could warm

523
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 3: running backs and tight ends because you have two tight ends, at.

524
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: Least in the fact Warren Lovely may maybe get a third, but.

525
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 3: Two running backs gent for sure and genty for sure,

526
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 3: probably a Marion Hampton and maybe Travon Henderson. So your

527
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: Joe Mixon look like yep, I think wide receivers.

528
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: You're gonna get three.

529
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: You'll get Travis, You'll get t mac get Golden and

530
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: maybe one more. Put it with Cam Woden. That's a

531
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: pretty good one, though, I think it's still going to

532
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: go the other way.

533
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: So if you're the Browns of the Giants and Travis

534
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 3: Hunter's right there, and you like him, but what do

535
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: you like him for?

536
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: Are you really planning on? Now?

537
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 3: I know you like this idea, but maybe they don't.

538
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: So does that take them out of picking him because

539
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: they may not use him? On about hot take? Here

540
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: Hunter drops out of the top five. Oh, that's five

541
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: sizzled fires. That's five You've lost your hot take mind. Okay,

542
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: I've lost my HoTT an athlete. But will he play

543
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: the way I want him to? I think he's a defender. No,

544
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: I think he's a receiver.

545
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: No.

546
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 3: I don't want him to play both sides, right, I

547
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: don't want him doing this right? It makes practice a nightmare.

548
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: This is the NFL. We don't score around like this.

549
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: That's right, all right, I'm just croating Team X here,

550
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: whoever that might be.

551
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: That's right.

552
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 3: Patriots pass on him. I think the Jacks. There's no

553
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: way he gets by the Jags. There's no fuel, there's

554
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: no way he gets by the Jacks. I mean the

555
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 3: Jags just say, well, we're gonna take him and playing

556
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: Matt wide receiver. You're to sellick tickets and take the

557
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 3: top offs. Exactly right, that's exactly right. But who played

558
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 3: both ways with the Patriots? Mike Rabel.

559
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but not.

560
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: Extensively extend some play stuff. I'm fine with that part

561
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 3: of it. I just don't know if I want to

562
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: play in you know, thirty snaps here, thirty snaps there.

563
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: Here's the way I would approach it. This means something

564
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: to you, right, Yeah? I sit him down and say

565
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: this means something to you. Yeah, I want to play

566
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: both sides. Then here's what I expect. You're going to

567
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: learn the playbook or whatever side we like. Your home

568
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: your home is offense, right, but you were going to

569
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: put in additional hours to learn the defense. You want

570
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: to do this you're gonna put an additional hours on

571
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: defense and you're not playing full on that second side

572
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: of the ball.

573
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: However you want to.

574
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 3: Do a defense or I'm not a coaching expert. You are,

575
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: but I feel it's not easier. But I feel like

576
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: you got to live on defense and sprinkle it in

577
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 3: on all I think. I think that's opposed to living

578
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: on offense and sprinkling in defense.

579
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: That's the way I would go. Okay, that's the way

580
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: I would go. The way I would go is like

581
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: with us, as I've said, he would be my number

582
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: two or three wide receiver. Yeah, so there's a certain

583
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 2: package that he would have, and then he would be

584
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: my nickel. He would go outside in nickel situations and

585
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: Kamari would bump inside. So he doesn't play full time

586
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: on either, but he plays like sixty to seventy five

587
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: percent on both. Now the onus is on him, on

588
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: him to make sure he knows what the hell he's doing.

589
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: He's not going out on that field if he doesn't

590
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 2: know what he's doing.

591
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 3: I just feel like, you know, it's the NFL. Man,

592
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: you got I know so much tape. I know in

593
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 3: college you can smoke by guys, you know you're playing against.

594
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: It's a different dude, I will admit in, Guys, I've

595
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: studied in what he can do. Like you watch him

596
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 2: at his best at both positions. You're like, damn, he's

597
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 2: wide receiver one and CB one in the same day.

598
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: And how many Jersey retirement questions as he could have

599
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 3: to answer? That was ridiculous, by the way, so easy

600
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: to call it. They're so stupid, it's so dumb. I look,

601
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 3: they retire numbers way too quick in sports.

602
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: Anyway.

603
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: Did you hear what Dion said? We gotta wait for

604
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: them to die before we retire their number. You get

605
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: out of dodge, stop man. Yeah no, I mean I

606
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: don't know. Dion has not looked great in this whole situation.

607
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: He is not.

608
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,239
Speaker 2: He opened his mouth and he's contradicting himself all over

609
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: the place exactly. Not not good whatsoever. This is one,

610
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: uh final hot take. This will be just the third

611
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 2: time since twenty twelve that four or fewer offensive linemen

612
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: will be drafted in the first round. That's one that's

613
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: from Brandon.

614
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: Thor feel that way. Even if there's a run, I.

615
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: Think there's a run, I think there has to be

616
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: a run mark every single team. So I'll just do

617
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: this because I haven't pulled up because I was doing

618
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: a mock draft simulator.

619
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: This is on.

620
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: This is pff pff. When you do mock draft simular,

621
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:06,479
Speaker 2: they give you the needs for each team. Okay, So

622
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: with each pick, number three, Giants need to tackle. Number four,

623
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: Patriots need to tackle. They need guards to the Raiders

624
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: need to tackle, the Jets need to tackle. The Saints

625
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: could use offensive line interior. The forty nine Ers could

626
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: use guard and tackle. Cowboys could use the guard Grays

627
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Dolphins guard tackle Falcon, the Colts guard Falcons, center,

628
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: Cardinals guard, Bengals guard, Seahawks center guard, Broncos center, Pittsburgh tackle. Obviously,

629
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: we know what we need here offensive line here in Houston.

630
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean, there is no way they're gonna be at

631
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: least five. At least five they're gonna go, right and

632
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: that I just got through twenty five. I mean I

633
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: didn't even get through the rest of them. But the

634
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: Ravens could use the guard. After losing John Simpsons to

635
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: the Jets, they they've needed a guard.

636
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: So there are.

637
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: Too many that need offensive linemen that yes, the offensive

638
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: Lineman is draft are flawed. I understand that, and I'll

639
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: be the first one to tell you that, And that's

640
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: kind of the way I've felt about this group. But

641
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: there is still still a lot that you can gain

642
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: by drafting Kelvin Banks, Junior Arma, Membu, et cetera, even

643
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: a guy like Josh Simmons. And I know that Simmons

644
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: has been kind of rumored to not be as swarmy

645
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: as some of the others, but I just feel like,

646
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: after watching the Eagles and watching what the Eagles did,

647
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: you'd be hard pressed to go up now.

648
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: We don't want to look like that.

649
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: What.

650
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: No, They've drafted offensive lineman year after you after and

651
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: it works.

652
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it works, and it works Based on what

653
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: you just said, I agree with you. Yeah, I've got

654
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 3: a sting. You gotta rate this one real quick. Okay, cornerback.

655
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: They're gonna draft one with their first One of their

656
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: first four picks will go to a corner. The Houston

657
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: Texans and Nick could be trading, so maybe one of

658
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: those picks ends up in the fourth round. But I'm

659
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: telling you, I think they need depth of corner I

660
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: just have a gut feel on this.

661
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: I don't think you're wrong. So I'm gonna say three

662
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: and a half. Okay, three and a half because remember

663
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: last year at this point, what would we have said.

664
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: If you were like, they're gonna take tackle in the

665
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: top two rounds. I would have had you probably committed

666
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: at that point because you were just completely.

667
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: But that was an early indicator that they were gonna

668
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: blow this thing up if it didn't work.

669
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Speaker 2: You want to know something when that pick happened with

670
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: Blake Fisher, that's exactly what went on in my brain.

671
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't say it. I didn't say overall time,

672
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: but I was like, did you said? Look, you can

673
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: kind of see it. He'll play right tackle eventually.

674
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: And that's what he's doing. That's the thought. So it'll

675
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: definitely be interesting. A guy that is all kinds of

676
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: interesting is our good buddy Henry to it too, He

677
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: joins us. Next, we had a great time talking with Henry.

678
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Speaker 2: Stay tuned right here for that interview. Next on Texans

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Speaker 2: All Access. Welcome back this Monday edition Texans All Access

680
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: from Monday Texans Radio Studio. I am John Harris, your host,

681
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston text.

682
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: It's so glad to be with you as we are.

683
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: Tuesday on was at there three days away?

684
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: Is that right?

685
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 2: Three sleeps Tuesday, Monday night, tuesdnight. Wasn't that yeah? Three

686
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: more sleeps until it is draft time. Texans sitting at

687
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: number twenty five for now, we'll see whether they stay,

688
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: could go up. I wouldn't mind going down get some

689
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: more draft capital, but that's just me. I like having

690
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: more draft picks. That just makes it to me more exciting.

691
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: But either way, can't wait for it. Thursday night, seven o'clock,

692
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: we have all access from six to seven, and then

693
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: kick it off at seven o'clock right there.

694
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun.

695
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: And then I'll be with you the rest of the weekend,

696
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: seventeen eighteen hours, whatever it is. I love talking draft,

697
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: love talking ball, love talking about the Texans. And I

698
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: love it when Mark and I get a chance to

699
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: talk to the Texans. Today, the first day of off

700
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 2: season conditioning, we had a chance to talk to Henry

701
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: to here we go.

702
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Henry, how's the off season? Ben's bring you so far?

703
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 3: I know you've been working out a lot here anyway,

704
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: It's been.

705
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: Good working out with Mike and them and their strength

706
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: staff has been great, but kind of took some time

707
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 4: with my family. Spent about two weeks back at home

708
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: and just spending time with family, spend time with my wife,

709
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: taking her on a little, you know, small vacations here

710
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 4: and there.

711
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: But it's been great. But excited to get back to work.

712
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: Is she from your home area or when you go home,

713
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: are you taking to her a completely different area?

714
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm taking it to a completely different area.

715
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 4: She's going to my stomping grounds and learning where I'm

716
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: from and what I do. But she's from Hawaii. Yeah,

717
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 4: so she's from the beautiful island hawaiis. She's from the

718
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 4: town she's from. It's called La Yeah. So it's a

719
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 4: small town about small population, but the community, the culture

720
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: there is really really strong.

721
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, where'd you two meet? She's crazy story. I

722
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: met her on FaceTime.

723
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 4: She was my sister's best friend and I called my

724
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 4: sister one day and then she thought I was somebody

725
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 4: else but then lo and behold, I work my magic

726
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 4: and did my thing. So different kind of Yeah, it

727
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 4: was different, kind of but it wouldn't know how people

728
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 4: fighting day in these days.

729
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: But it was a it was from a family, so

730
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: So when you get back home, what's it like with

731
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: your boys?

732
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: People that know you, friends, family, they just treat you

733
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: like Henry's been here.

734
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: Man, we know him, he's our But.

735
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: Is it like, oh, he's this big football star now

736
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: at the NFL.

737
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: What's it like when you go?

738
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 4: Oh, Man, when I'm back home, I'm just a regular Joe.

739
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: My mom don't treat me different. My boys don't treat

740
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 4: me different, you know. And I think that's just a

741
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: testament to my circle. I keep my circle super small,

742
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 4: just with people that I love. Probably out of all

743
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: the friends I have in high school, I really don't

744
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: think I chilled with any of them, and it's all

745
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 4: family members that I'm really really close with. So when

746
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 4: I go home and I'm kicking back doing what I

747
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 4: want to do, doing my boys want to do, it's

748
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 4: nothing different. But like obviously going to football camps and

749
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 4: speaking of children here and there, it's a different story.

750
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 4: But when I'm with my family, man, I think that

751
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: that's the time where I'm able to just you know,

752
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: do the dumb stuff that I want to do that

753
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: I can't do in public today that when somebody records

754
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 4: me and do something stupid, but when I went my

755
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 4: boys and my family.

756
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: Man, I think.

757
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 4: That's that's my getaway. That's kind of my vacations and

758
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: why I love the off season so much.

759
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: Playing high school ball in California, you had a lot

760
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: of options to stay on the West Coast for college,

761
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: but you went to Tennessee first and Alabama. How difficult

762
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 3: was it a decision to go east?

763
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: It was tough.

764
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 4: I think that was probably the hardest decision of my life. Honestly,

765
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 4: was when I was eighteen eighteen and leaving my parents

766
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 4: at a young age. And I come from the Polynation culture,

767
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 4: so you know, we're rooted in family, like that's that's

768
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 4: everything to us. You know, family is the rock center

769
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 4: of our culture. But it was my dad. I wanted

770
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 4: to go to Washington, the Oregons and the us CS.

771
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 4: I wanted to stay home, but my dad knew it

772
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: was best for me to go out and leave and

773
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 4: and grow up as a young man, and knew it

774
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 4: was going to pay off for me. So if there

775
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 4: was all credit, you know, my dad's been my lifelong coast,

776
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 4: so it all goes to him and his his ability

777
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: to push me and like go away from home, so

778
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: like go go home, go away, and grow up.

779
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: So Henry's free, You're one of the year two, You're

780
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: one your rookie year twenty three to year two and

781
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. What was the biggest difference for you

782
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: and what was kind of the biggest part of your

783
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 2: growth from year one to year two.

784
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot of things. I think one the

785
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 4: biggest thing is confidence. I think my confidence kind of

786
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 4: raced through the roofs after the first game when we

787
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 4: played Indie.

788
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: I think I.

789
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: Didn't have the best game, but it wasn't like I

790
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 4: was kind of tiptoeing around, you know. So I think

791
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: after that game it was just a huge confidence booster.

792
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 4: And then we played Chicago and now that was probably

793
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 4: one of my best games I ever played. So after

794
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 4: that it just kind of just rolled over. But besides confidence,

795
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: I think it was my body. I was so heavy

796
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 4: my rookie year. I didn't know how to control my body,

797
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 4: what to do. Then a guy like a Zz comes

798
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 4: in and shows me his ropes and how to take

799
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 4: care of his body. I mean I kind of took

800
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 4: what he does and kind of implemented my own little thing.

801
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: But I think those two things, man, because everybody knows football.

802
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: Everybody plays football. We know the ins and outs of it.

803
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 4: That's why we're here. But I think my confidence is

804
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 4: what carried me and then how I changed my entire

805
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 4: body throughout that offseason and going into the season.

806
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: Were about to have a lot of rookies coming through

807
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: the door here, and what would you tell them? Would

808
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: you tell them something like that, if they hear your

809
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 3: story what you just said, I think that would help them.

810
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: But what else can you say to them about the

811
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 3: adjustment of playing in the NFL?

812
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: Man, I think what I would tell somebody, And this

813
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 4: is me being who I am, and I know a

814
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 4: lot of guys are like this is specially coming in.

815
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 4: Just be open to vets and kind of hearing their

816
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 4: story and what they do. I think as a rookie,

817
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 4: I was so stubborn and like I was successful at Alabama.

818
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: I was a sexful at Tennessee.

819
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 4: I was able to compete at the highest level in

820
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 4: college and thought that way the way I did things

821
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 4: was gonna work when I came to the NFL. But

822
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 4: the NFL is a whole different animal. So you know,

823
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 4: I think my advice is just listen to a vet man.

824
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: They know what they're talking about. They're not going to

825
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 4: lead you astray. You know, they've been in the NFL

826
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 4: for a while. So I think that's what I didn't do.

827
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 4: I had good vets in our room, like Blade Cashman,

828
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 4: you know, Denzel Paraman, Corty Liddleton, a lot of guys

829
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 4: that were in the room that knows the ins and

830
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 4: outs of the NFL. So may just be open minded,

831
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 4: don't be stubborn like I was.

832
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing is stapped ability. I

833
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: think it's gotta be big. And the reason I'm bringing

834
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: it out Henry is we sat with Demko and I

835
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: remember this distinctly. Obviously Zis gets a suspension. We're like,

836
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: all right, well he's gonna play Mike. What's gonna happen.

837
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: We got a bye weekend and we got to play Miami,

838
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: and we know Miami is a different kind of offense.

839
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean they do things a little bit differently.

840
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: They show you a lot of smoking mirrors and you

841
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: got to wear a green dot.

842
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: And I asked Coach.

843
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: I said, Coach, how was it with the communication with Henry?

844
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: And I remember him saying, distinctly, we didn't have a

845
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 2: bust all day in large part because of how you communicated,

846
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: how different an experience was that you did it Alabama,

847
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: but now you gotta do it in lieu of Azase,

848
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: how was that? Do you remember that game in that

849
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: way of you kind of communicating being the guy that

850
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: communicate with the front.

851
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: And the back that way? Do you remember that for him?

852
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: I think so.

853
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: I kind of did a little bit of my rookie year,

854
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 4: but I was kind of it was kind of in

855
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: and out, you know, I had it a little bit

856
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 4: done again that I came out and then.

857
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: Somebody else took it.

858
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: But that was like the very first time where I

859
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: kind of had to take control of everything and everybody

860
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 4: depended on me to be able to, you know, one

861
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 4: make a play, but get everybody in line.

862
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: So, man, that game was. It was hectic. It was crazy.

863
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: You know, they do a lot of a lot of

864
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 4: smoking mirrors, like you just said, But man, I just

865
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 4: vivially remember like.

866
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: The pressure of.

867
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 4: Everybody looking at me and relying on me to get

868
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 4: them a call and get them aligned. And they move

869
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 4: so fast, Miami moves so fast. So being able to

870
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 4: do that and get the guys and communicate that and

871
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 4: I think that's I mean, obviously, I always go back

872
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: to Disease because Man has been a huge part into

873
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 4: coming to this organization and helping young guys like myself,

874
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: watching him how he works and how he prepares every

875
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 4: single day and how guys look up to him and

876
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 4: how he carries himself, and I see that every day

877
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: and I look at them. I'm like, Man, So when

878
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 4: it's my turn and I'm the leader of the defense,

879
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 4: you know, whether you know, I stay here or I'm

880
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 4: somewhere else, Like, that's how it's supposed to be done.

881
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 4: You know, Disease does it the right way, and not

882
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: saying I'm gonna do it exactly like he does, but

883
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 4: when it's my turn, like, I'm gonna uphold that standard

884
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 4: or even surpass it when it's my turn. So that's

885
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: kind of how I prosed it when when it was

886
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: my time.

887
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: Yep.

888
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: We did this after the Whistle feature with you and

889
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: you talked about the players being a family and everybody

890
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: being so close and how that helps you on the

891
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: field and off the field. What about that part of it?

892
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: You mentioned some of it with a zase. What about

893
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: everybody else here?

894
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: Man? We just the way how we I wish.

895
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: I wish everybody was able to just sit in that

896
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 4: locker room, like somebody put a camera in there and

897
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: just watch how we maneuver in there, Like how watch

898
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: how we shoot hoops. Watch how guys are not even

899
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: on their phones and we're kicking it with each other,

900
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: how we're having deep conversations, or even in the training room,

901
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: Like I wish people could actually see the connections that

902
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 4: we have, the conversations that we have. I wish we

903
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 4: had a microphone walking off of practice, Like sometimes we're

904
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: not even talking about practice, We're just talking about hey, man,

905
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 4: like how you doing, Like what are you eating for dinner?

906
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: Or like how's your wife? How's the kids?

907
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 4: So those are a lot of things, like I can't

908
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 4: point pitt specific things, but sure, I just really wish

909
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 4: that people were able to see how how we talk

910
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 4: to each other, how we love each other, how we

911
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 4: sit in the locker room and spend quality time with

912
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 4: each other, because man, we spend more time here than

913
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 4: with our families. Honestly, so many these guys were really

914
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: we were last year, and I expect us to be

915
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 4: a really really tight group again just off of you know,

916
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 4: from the top down, you know, coach Miko does a

917
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 4: great job of telling us this is a family, and

918
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 4: you know we take that to heart and you know

919
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 4: we really care for one another.

920
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: You mentioned this earlier. Sting mentioned it on the Pod

921
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: to Pivot podcast. He talked about the standard. Now you

922
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: were at Alabama where it was the process, but it's

923
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: kind of the same thing. There's a standard that you

924
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: guys are held to, especially as guys that have been

925
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 2: around a little bit, that everybody's got to match that standard.

926
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: That there is this pull within you, Like you said,

927
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: I got to match the standard.

928
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: Disease isn't there. I gotta live up to that.

929
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: I got to make sure everybody else is following my lead.

930
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta reach that standard. Derek talked about that,

931
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: you know with Nico, Like Nico sign the contract here

932
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: right next day, he was in the weight room and

933
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: he's like, we gotta we gotta set that standard and

934
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: we've got to have guys reach and move towards that standard.

935
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: Do you kind of feel that way with this team, Henry,

936
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: that there is a certain standard that you guys play

937
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: at that not everybody can be a Texan, not everybody

938
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: can play at that standard. Because you guys have set

939
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: that standard so high for youself. You kind of look

940
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: at it that way, and it.

941
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 4: Says and I think Will was the first one to

942
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: say it, Yeah, everybody can't be a Texan.

943
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: And I mean that's true.

944
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 4: Man. The way we work, man, We're we're grinding throughout

945
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: the season, throughout the off season, throughout OTAs like it's

946
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 4: it's a daily grind, no matter if it's film, no

947
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: matter if it's a walkthrough. I think I think it's

948
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 4: just that mindset that Demico has that he pours into us,

949
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: like he the way he was a player, Now was

950
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 4: I played with Miko Because the way he coaches us

951
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 4: and pours that attitude into us, like if you're not

952
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 4: gonna do it this way, you can't be here playing

953
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: set Like we're gonna find somebody else to do it.

954
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 4: So I think that mindset that we all have together,

955
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 4: like we understand what Miko wants, so we're going to

956
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 4: exactly do what he wants. And more so, man, that

957
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: mindset is spreads throughout the entire building.

958
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: All Right, one more for you Draft weekend memories. You're

959
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: drafted in the fifth round. Yeah, and I got to

960
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 3: find out from you what that weight was like. Plus

961
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 3: a former coach here used to say, it doesn't matter

962
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: how you got here, but you're here.

963
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: Clearly you're making the most of it. So what about

964
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: all that man? Draft?

965
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 4: Oh Man, I was uh, I go lie Now, I

966
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 4: look back at it, man, during that moment, because I

967
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 4: was expected, and I thought, you know, that's kind of

968
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: the big thing. I'm gonna tell guy, I don't think

969
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 4: you're gonna go somewhere. And you know what I'm saying,

970
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: I don't think you're gonna get drafted a certain spot.

971
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 4: But I thought I was gonna go second day, like

972
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: third round. So then that whole thing happens. I didn't

973
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 4: get drafted, and then I was so mad. The third day.

974
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 4: I was pissed off, and then I got a call.

975
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 4: If you guys look back at it, I didn't sound

976
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 4: too excited when I got the call. I could have

977
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 4: had more enthusiasm, but I wasn't as happy. But man,

978
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: hindsight twenty twenty. Men, I think that's just how God works.

979
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: Man.

980
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 4: He he puts things in your life, some obstacles and

981
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: some trials for a reason. And I don't think there's

982
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: no other place better for me. Then here than being

983
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 4: under Miko, being Houston with the fans and and just

984
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 4: a city. Man, I think the city perfectly fits me.

985
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 4: So I'm super blessed to be here. But yeah, after

986
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 4: I got that call, man, it was it was party.

987
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: It was it was all reliefs away. All my stresses

988
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 4: went away.

989
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: You know.

990
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing out of draft weekend was

991
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 4: just seeing how proud my parents were.

992
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: I think that was the biggest.

993
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 4: Thing in the relief they had because I'm I'm the

994
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: first one in my family to graduate college and the

995
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 4: first one to be in a pro So I think

996
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: the blessing of seeing my parents super happy, smiling and

997
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 4: you know, giving hugs and kisses to people we don't

998
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 4: even know. I think the congraduates they got and they're

999
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 4: hard work and their sacrifices they made for me is

1000
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: what what motivates me and drives me every single day.

1001
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 4: I think being a fifth round draft pick, you know,

1002
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 4: I'm in here, I'm in the league, and I'm super blessed.

1003
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 4: So not me being a fifth round pick drives me. No,

1004
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 4: I'm super blessed. We're appreciate you guys so much. Henry,

1005
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 4: thanks a lot.

1006
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: Thank y'all.

1007
00:43:54,680 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 2: That dude is awesome. Absolutely love Henry Totoe. Glad he

1008
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: is here in Houston. I loved him being so forthright

1009
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: about his draft day experience. Minus general generally been pretty

1010
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: good for the most part, talking abou all these guys, but.

1011
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: I can totally understand what Henry is talking about.

1012
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: I always feel like those guys that think they'll go

1013
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: around one, they got to sleep on it.

1014
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: Till day two. Guys that think will go day two,

1015
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: they got to sleep on it the day three. Ugh,

1016
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: so so difficult.

1017
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: All right, speaking of the NFL, in the NFL Draft,

1018
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: we'll go around in the NFL next right here on

1019
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 2: Texans All Access, tapping everybody. We got one final segment

1020
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: of this Monday edition that Texans All Access from Monday

1021
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, Paul Analyst,

1022
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. We are, Oh, I

1023
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: don't know, about seventy two hours away?

1024
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: Is all right? Tuesday third? Yeah, about seventy two hours away.

1025
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: From twenty twenty five NFL Draft. Can't wait. Let's get

1026
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: some news as it pertains to the draft, and maybe

1027
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: not as a draft, but a big extension signed by

1028
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: Philaelphia Eagles center Camp Jurgens talk about a continuation plan

1029
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: that went from Jason Kelcey to drawl Famer to giving

1030
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: their center who started for one year, four years, sixty

1031
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: eight million dollars.

1032
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Camp Jurgens.

1033
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: I saw this, and I don't know if it was

1034
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: at his press conference or at some press conference. He's

1035
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: telling a story of draft day when he was drafted.

1036
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: He's drafted, I believe in the second round. He's out

1037
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: of Nebraska, and apparently they had a tornado watch and

1038
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: so he gets the call. They celebrate for a few minutes,

1039
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, they hear the alarms and

1040
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: they're like, oh man, we gotta go. And his grandmother's like, nope,

1041
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: not moving. So he tells a really funny story about that.

1042
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: But congratulations Camp Jurgens. Super Bowl champion center Cam Jurgens

1043
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: gets four years, sixty eight million dollars. Chris Ballard met

1044
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: with the media today. Two things stood out of that conversation.

1045
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: Number One, he does expect both Anthony Richardson Daniel Jones

1046
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 2: to play at some point. I would imagine in preseason

1047
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: they'll go back and forth. The other thing you said.

1048
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: As it relates to that, He was asked, could a

1049
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: quarterback be something you're considering number fourteen? Ballard said that quote.

1050
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 2: If there's a player that we deem as worthy of it,

1051
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 2: absolutely Yeah. Why wouldn't we Yeah. Asked if that would

1052
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 2: mean it's a three quarterback competition, Ballot responded said, sure,

1053
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: if you want to write that story, you can. So, man,

1054
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: could the Colts throw everybody a little bit of a curveball?

1055
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: I happen to give us a thought. I think Mark

1056
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: and I talked about this a while back. Could the

1057
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: Colts look at a quarterback? Nothing is settled? You think

1058
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: they feel great about what they've got? No, But I

1059
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 2: just don't think they're going to feel great about whatever

1060
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: quarterbacks are left at fourteen. That's just my interpretation of it.

1061
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: So we'll see what the Colts do. But they expect competition,

1062
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: and if it's quarterback at fourteen, it's a quarterback fourteen

1063
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,479
Speaker 2: that would be best player available. I just don't think

1064
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: there is a best player available for that. Speaking of quarterback,

1065
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell, former quarterback San Diego State drafted in the

1066
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: NFL by the Patriots, is now.

1067
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: The head coaching instead of Vikings. He said his quarterback

1068
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: is considered full.

1069
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: Go say Kevin o'conne about JJ McCarthy, and I quote,

1070
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: I'd consider him full, really, no limitations. I want to

1071
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: credit JJ probably has handled these last two to two

1072
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: and a half three months or so where I think

1073
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: he's ready to hit the ground running. As of today,

1074
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,479
Speaker 2: the Vikings have no other answer at quarterback other than

1075
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, So I got a feeling they're gonna do

1076
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: everything possible to keep him safe, healthy, but they gotta see.

1077
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: What he's got.

1078
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: So i'd imagine we'll see him in the preseason a

1079
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: lot to get ready for his first season as the starter,

1080
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: second season the NFL. Last year spent all on the

1081
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: sidelines of the torn acl Okay, that's gonna do it

1082
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 2: for the show. Appreciate Mark for stopping by Henry Tote

1083
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 2: the man.

1084
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: That was awesome, Thank him all you for listening. Will

1085
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: see next time and as always, go Texans.