WEBVTT - The center position is officially BACK

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode that Heat Check.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about some centers, y'all, a position that is

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<v Speaker 2>just being almost exterminated. We talked about how the haters

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<v Speaker 2>are wrong about DeAndre Ayton. Stop talking about my man Aton,

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<v Speaker 2>stop talking about him a D. We gotta talk about

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<v Speaker 2>a D as well. He's a problem, like not in

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<v Speaker 2>a good way. Sorry, man, Anthony, I know you know

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<v Speaker 2>this and how Shaq thinks Rudy Gobert is overrated, but

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<v Speaker 2>really this is just about American versus euro centers.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots to talk about in terms of the center game.

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<v Speaker 2>So Anthony, let's move on. Let's drop that motherfucker beat

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<v Speaker 2>should beat. Okay, today, I'm fired up about centers, centers

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<v Speaker 2>getting unfairly maligned, even the centers that I don't particularly

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<v Speaker 2>like getting unfairly discriminated and hated on against. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>our Centers episode of the Heat Check. Let's start by

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<v Speaker 2>taking at a look at a center who is just

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<v Speaker 2>for no reason being killed by social media this year.

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<v Speaker 1>People just hop on. I know that he's a Portland trailblazer.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that nobody's watching our games, but like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about DeAndre eight and y'all, people are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>act like he is scum on some sort of swamp land.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh no, DeAndre, I can pull up so

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<v Speaker 2>many anti eight in tweets right now, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Make me do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't make me do it right off the top of

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<v Speaker 2>my head, because in general, people want to say bad

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<v Speaker 2>things about him. Really, I don't understand it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand it. People are saying he's a bust. Imagine finding

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<v Speaker 2>out eighton sucks and it's not because the city that

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<v Speaker 2>he plays it. It's because he's bad at basketball. They

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<v Speaker 2>could have ended with Dame staying a Blazer forever, but

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<v Speaker 2>that guy Blazer fans praised yesterday wiped eleven years away

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<v Speaker 2>for DeAndre Ayton. It's one after the other or after

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<v Speaker 2>the other. Nobody has gotten more slandered, more libeled this

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<v Speaker 2>season than DeAndre aiden number one overall pick out of Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>and the shit has got to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gotta stop, really.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not like over here caping for Ayton because

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<v Speaker 2>he's a Blazer and that's my hometown team. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>caping for Ayton because he was the first player really

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<v Speaker 2>that I ended up covering.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first got into media, was getting paid in media.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like fifteen years old playing in Adida's Nations. No,

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm doing is I'm pushing back on the narrative

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<v Speaker 2>surrounding him, and I am here to say it is

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<v Speaker 2>pure bullshit. I am calling bullshit on the anti Ayton slant.

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<v Speaker 2>Find a new slant because the fact of the matter is,

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<v Speaker 2>not only is Ayton not suck, not only is Ayton

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<v Speaker 2>not ass Ayten is actually quite good. Aten is bawling

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck out right now and you're not seeing it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not opening your eyes to it because it's Portland

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<v Speaker 2>and they're boo boo and they're boom boom, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>had some injury issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's break it down for the Aton haters.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay Aiitten, if you recall, was one of the centerpieces

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<v Speaker 2>of the Damian Lillard deal, allowing Portland to get out

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<v Speaker 2>from underneath a toxic contract of Yusuf Nurkic albatross of

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<v Speaker 2>a deal move Dame to the Celtics. Oh yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>trade also brought too.

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<v Speaker 1>Many kamara to the Blazers.

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<v Speaker 2>Too many buckets, So we ended up getting two starters

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<v Speaker 2>for an overpriced, underperforming center in Nurkic, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a win win.

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<v Speaker 1>Nurkic is playing fine basketball in Phoenix. Great dude only.

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<v Speaker 2>Works in a small number of offenses. And that was

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<v Speaker 2>just not going to be Portland with this young team

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to move on to. He was aligned at

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<v Speaker 2>the hip, attached at the hip with Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as Ayton got.

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<v Speaker 2>To Portland, the haters, the haters got louder, the haters

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<v Speaker 2>got meaner. His first twenty games didn't really give much

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<v Speaker 2>of a defense either. He was thirteen eleven and two

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<v Speaker 2>at two stocks in just thirty one minutes per game.

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<v Speaker 2>Not bad, but like, that's not what you want from

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<v Speaker 2>a number one overall pick. Like, that's not what you

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<v Speaker 2>want for someone who got max money, right, And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the issue.

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<v Speaker 1>The issue is people were dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>And the issue is that the Phoenix Suns were so

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<v Speaker 2>scarred by all the dog shit Euros that they had

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<v Speaker 2>chosen over the last decade that they could not see

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<v Speaker 2>what was right in front of their face, which was Luca.

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<v Speaker 2>And like, let's just go over Luca's accolades for a second,

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<v Speaker 2>because he won the EuroLeague title, the EuroLeague MVP, the

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<v Speaker 2>EuroLeague Final four MVP, and the Spanish ACB title and

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<v Speaker 2>MVP before being drafted at nineteen, and people were like, ah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>What about DeAndre Ayton? Right, like, what about.

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<v Speaker 2>That Caribbean kid that plays at Arizona Because Phoenix continue

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<v Speaker 2>to take these euros that didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 1>They saw those accolades accolades, and they're like, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I already likes the party, you know, So do not

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<v Speaker 2>compare Ayton and what he's done as a player based

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<v Speaker 2>on somebody not choosing Luca. Since Ayton was picked over

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<v Speaker 2>Luca Trey and Shaye Gilgess Alexander, everybody just wants to

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<v Speaker 2>say the eight and sucks unlike any of those teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Though he has played some I don't know, like played some

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<v Speaker 2>pretty important games, went to the NBA Finals.

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<v Speaker 1>All those other guys have not just saying valley oop?

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<v Speaker 2>Could I for fresher memory with the valley oop one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most clutch plays I've ever seen in my

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<v Speaker 2>goddamn life. Anyway, tripping gets loud right eight and suffers

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<v Speaker 2>a few injuries, He misses some games, then he missed

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<v Speaker 2>a dozen games about halfway through the season. And then remember, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the haters got so loud when DeAndre Ayton got a

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<v Speaker 2>DNP for ice remember that one DeAndre Ayton couldn't leave

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<v Speaker 2>his house and couldn't go to the game because of

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<v Speaker 2>a weather event, and everyone was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Oh, he's lazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you can't get out of his house and his

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<v Speaker 2>eyes he's got this much money. Like that was where

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<v Speaker 2>we were at on DeAndre Ayton, and people started being like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this trade sucks. The Blazers should have traded Dame to

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<v Speaker 2>Miami for Nikola Jovic, who, by the way, is doing

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<v Speaker 2>nothing right now. So I've got some words for those people.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got some words for DeAndre ayton haters. And the

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<v Speaker 2>words are too and they're very loud, and they're all

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<v Speaker 2>in caps, and it's fuck you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Once DeAndre Ayton got healthy, he's been happy. Once he

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<v Speaker 2>got a healthy he has shown us exactly who he is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think fringe top ten center. Past ten games, DeAndre

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<v Speaker 2>ayten averaging twenty one thirteen to two with two stocks

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty three minutes on average. Those are not good numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are not solid numbers. Those are great numbers. Those

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<v Speaker 2>are very very good numbers on a very bad and

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<v Speaker 2>an injured team. Ayighten's net rating has been a minus

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<v Speaker 2>one point six for a team that is negative eleven

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<v Speaker 2>point seven during that same stretch. Also, I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to say that there was quite a lot of anti

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<v Speaker 2>eighten reputational slander as well. Ayton is lazy, He's got

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<v Speaker 2>a bad attitude. I think it was Casey Holdall who

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<v Speaker 2>came out and wrote a venomous piece on DeAndre Ayton

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<v Speaker 2>on whose behalf?

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<v Speaker 1>Who the fuck knows? But that didn't help.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things I love about him, though, is

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<v Speaker 2>he's actually a very pure guy and people want to

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<v Speaker 2>paint him as this like sullen asshole, and he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>When asked about the perception of him nationally, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I just be trying to bust my ass. That's about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether I look like the bad guy or not. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be great. I'm trying to be a winner

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<v Speaker 2>in this league. I'm trying to be known as that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're around me, you're gonna learn how to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Woo aiden will oh Chris Paul in them, huh, some

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<v Speaker 2>of that Chris Paul is rubbed off on Aton. These

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<v Speaker 2>Blazers are young, these Blazers are athletic, and Ayton will

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<v Speaker 2>serve as the most mature veteran in the locker room

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<v Speaker 2>outside of I don't know Malcolm Brockton. As they mature

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<v Speaker 2>into being one of the newest the Pacific Northwest version

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<v Speaker 2>of the Pacific Northwest Division known as.

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<v Speaker 1>The Oklahoma City Thunder.

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<v Speaker 2>There was the artist formerly known as the Seattle SuperSonics,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course he hears the haters, Ayton.

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<v Speaker 1>He told NBA dot Com this, I listen, I hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I thank these haters for it because it's making me

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<v Speaker 2>approach the game in the right way and carry the

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<v Speaker 2>PDX on my back all the way. So I thank them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing the cape all the way. Let them know, Ayton,

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<v Speaker 2>Let him know. Let's not act like eight and some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like Nikola Vucevic out there either, like some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of stiff can only do one thing like offensive minded.

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<v Speaker 2>DeAndre Ayton is averaging twenty eleven and two and thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>games against Yokitch. By the way, Sabonus averages sixteen, ten

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<v Speaker 2>and six and seventeen games against NICOLEA for comparison, and.

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<v Speaker 1>He's only twenty five years old. He should be hitting

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<v Speaker 1>his prime.

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<v Speaker 2>He hits elbow jumpers, he can go face up I've

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<v Speaker 2>said this before, I'll say it again. His upside is

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<v Speaker 2>a leaner, healthier Joel embiid. That's what his upside is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying he's gonna be that. He's only twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five years old. He's just ready to hit his prime.

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<v Speaker 2>Enough games like the other night where he had thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three nineteen. I bet you he has the most nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>rebound games of the season. I think he has five

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<v Speaker 2>of them and a plus sixteen and a four point

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<v Speaker 2>went over Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell click Appella and go on home. Tell him it's time.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the worst haters's.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna have to shut up. Let's move on to another center.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also maligned, but might be fairly malign. Anthony Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Anthony A. D. One of my first big videos

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<v Speaker 2>ever did was a very simple question.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a question I'm a little afraid to ask again.

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<v Speaker 2>People called me all kinds of names back then, when

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok was a different place. I said, is Anthony Davis soft?

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<v Speaker 2>And the answer continues to swirl upon my brain. It's

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<v Speaker 2>to hiss twenty twenty one, first time I said it

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<v Speaker 2>aloud on a microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>Haven't come to an answer yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, folks, we may beginning to our answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a perennial defensive team candidate, one of the players

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<v Speaker 2>that's consistently mentioned in the MVP race before every season,

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<v Speaker 2>almost every season, though we hype.

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<v Speaker 1>Them up, even me.

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<v Speaker 2>I look at my little fucking note sheet that I

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<v Speaker 2>have with my friends, and you know what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I did? You know what I did?

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<v Speaker 2>I put Anthony Davis as my MVP and Defensive Player

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<v Speaker 2>of the Year vote, and he's nowhere close to either one.

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<v Speaker 2>And normally it's derailed by injuries. And this year that

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<v Speaker 2>is just not where we're at, folks, And that, to

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<v Speaker 2>me is.

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<v Speaker 1>Where we're hitting the rubber on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Davis has already played more games this season since

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<v Speaker 2>he has than he has in twenty seventeen twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Lakers how fifteen games left.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not injuries. Why are we talking about ad

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<v Speaker 1>the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Bones of paper, no bones of bones of glass, skin

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<v Speaker 2>of paper.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a thing anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the following stat and why we need

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<v Speaker 2>to have a talk. Anthony Davis is oh in ten

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<v Speaker 2>against Demonis Sabonis the other night was the tenth one

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<v Speaker 2>in seven against Joel Embiid and ohen seven against Nikola Jokic.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's do a little Mas school.

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<v Speaker 2>He's two and fourteen, two and fourteen in twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>two and twenty four against the top centers in this league.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I say two and twenty four, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mean they outplayed him. I mean his team is two

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty four when those other centers are the centers

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<v Speaker 2>that are eating him alive and spitting out his bones

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<v Speaker 2>of glass in it.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, since the twenty twenty one twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty two season, Ad is one in twenty four against

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<v Speaker 2>elite centers and is getting bodied, just getting absolutely marked.

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<v Speaker 2>He's played Jokic three times, given up twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight, twelve and nine with two stocks a game.

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<v Speaker 2>He's played one game against mb this year, given up

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eleven and one with four stocks. He's played Domos

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<v Speaker 2>four times this year. The rebound numbers for Domos are

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<v Speaker 2>really ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>He's given up nineteen, eighteen and nine. And Domas is

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<v Speaker 1>not a guy that's that big either. He's not a.

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<v Speaker 2>Chunk alunk a d baby. What you're doing, these are

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<v Speaker 2>not all defensive numbers, folks. But more troubling really is

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<v Speaker 2>the mentality. So they ask him, a d you're oh

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<v Speaker 2>and nine, this is before the game. You're oh and

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<v Speaker 2>nine against a bonus.

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<v Speaker 1>And he says, I don't really care about that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all about the team. It's not a one on one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't bother me.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, a mister Davis, mister Davis, Uh, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what the can we repeat the question? I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure you you hurd us correctly because your team is

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<v Speaker 2>losing games when you're on the floor versus those other guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and your answer is I'm not about individual matchups. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>what friend of show Jovon Buja had to say about

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<v Speaker 2>how badly Sabonis beat that ass the other night.

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<v Speaker 1>He says it's gonna be rough once again.

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<v Speaker 2>Sabonis's success against Davis was a key difference in the outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Sabonis improved a ten to zero against Davis in their

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<v Speaker 2>head to head matchups, a revealing record that underscores Davis's

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<v Speaker 2>struggles against bruising centers who can push him around in

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<v Speaker 2>the paint yet also drag him away from the basket

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<v Speaker 2>with the combination of shooting and passing. Sabonus posted his

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<v Speaker 2>second triple double seventeen points, nineteen rebounds, ten assists against

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers in the past week, and his lead leaguing

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<v Speaker 2>twenty third of the season, which many of his stats

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<v Speaker 2>accumulated directly on Davis's.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my part. Don't peace this, folks, is not

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<v Speaker 1>just day problem, but the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I uh, it makes it hard when you see these

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<v Speaker 2>stats to not.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, is Anthony Davis like a one B, one C player.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what he can be. We all know what

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<v Speaker 2>ad his potential is. AD could score thirty fifteen seven,

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<v Speaker 2>four blocks, five blocks, two steals.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is that he doesn't. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is that somehow, some way, you look up

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<v Speaker 2>and Anthony Davis. You're looking at his stat sheet and

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying, twenty two ten and three. I'm sorry, what

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<v Speaker 2>that's not fucking good enough against the Kings, against the Bucks,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirteen and five. No, sir, can't have that.

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<v Speaker 2>We need you putting up forty, which you did, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, against Check's notes the Washington Lizard. I'm sorry, dog,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't average twenty five to twelve and four when

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<v Speaker 2>you fade like a newspaper in the sun facing physical

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<v Speaker 2>centers Lebron. Excuse me, mister James, I think you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a co star problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said it before and I'll say it again.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a Genie Buss, you need to take a

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<v Speaker 2>hard look in the mirror and decide. Lebron's at the

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<v Speaker 2>twilight of his career. We don't have shooters. Can we

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<v Speaker 2>count on Anthony Davis if he is the lynchpin of.

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<v Speaker 1>How far we can go in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>If that is the case, it's gonna be another long, cold,

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<v Speaker 2>rough offseason in my.

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<v Speaker 1>Tough That was a tough one.

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<v Speaker 2>Tough to say all those things, but the truth had

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<v Speaker 2>to be said.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on out turn.

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<v Speaker 2>To a couple of centers who always find the limelight,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they hate each other. I really, I

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<v Speaker 2>really do, Shaquille O'Neil and Rudy Gobert. It centers on literally,

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<v Speaker 2>but it centers I'm the most tired of all basketball

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<v Speaker 2>subjects next to Lebron versus MJ. It's kind of another

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<v Speaker 2>version of there's no more defense in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so soft.

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<v Speaker 2>Now listen, first up, let me preface it by saying

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<v Speaker 2>I love me some Shack folks, great dude, tons of

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<v Speaker 2>self awareness. Knows he's lazy, right, but he is coming

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<v Speaker 2>perilously close to being old man yelling at clouds. He

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<v Speaker 2>said this about Rudy Gobert the other day on his

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<v Speaker 2>Big podcast to his guest Mario Chalmers, former Miami Heat

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<v Speaker 2>player who's out there just going crazy for bam Adebayo

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<v Speaker 2>for Defensive Player of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>Shack agreed.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been fighting for bam to get Defensive Player of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year for like ten years now. Anyway, Shack agree

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<v Speaker 2>and said, I never thought Rudy was a great defensive

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<v Speaker 2>player either. What it is, there's not a great a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of great centers that are making him play defense.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not doing it against Yoker because he has to

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<v Speaker 2>be engaged. But when he's going against another guy, he's

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<v Speaker 2>seven to six. By the way, that's not true. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, that's not true. Let me correct the record.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's just seven feet just flat. If you

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<v Speaker 2>lay it up, he's gonna block it. Defense to me

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<v Speaker 2>is guard that motherfucker shut him down. You want to

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<v Speaker 2>impress me, hold Yokich under fifteen points. Now, you plan

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<v Speaker 2>all that week side blocking shots. That's cool, but it

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<v Speaker 2>ain't gonna work against guys like me and Yoke Joker

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<v Speaker 2>and embiid OUI Oohie Shack.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't have to do all that. He didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to say all that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily agree with Shack, because you guys know

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<v Speaker 2>how I feel about Rudy A bonge Rudi. As much

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<v Speaker 2>as I can't stand his ass, the people that play

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<v Speaker 2>against him and with them kind of think he's the

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<v Speaker 2>best defensive center in the league right now. That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the way it is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been awesome this year.

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<v Speaker 2>The Wolves are the number one defensive team in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were not before he got there, when you

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<v Speaker 2>had Kitty Kat out there playing five, getting in found

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<v Speaker 2>in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's probably not the time to get this takeoff.

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<v Speaker 2>Really could have been maybe last year that was maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the best time in defensive Rudy. The subject of centers

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<v Speaker 2>not playing defense was on the mind of some of

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<v Speaker 2>Gobert's fellow Euros. Nikola Vusovich said this in response to

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<v Speaker 2>No Chill Gil saying Euros were soft and that they

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<v Speaker 2>were to blame for the lack of defense in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, we didn't even talk about that. What

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck is Gilbert Arenus even saying, honestly, I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's I think he's not him. I think it's weekend

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<v Speaker 2>at Bernie's where no chill, gild just says whatever. Anyway

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<v Speaker 2>he says this, I have nothing to say about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's very hard to play defense in

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA. This is Nicola Vusovich. Part of it is

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<v Speaker 2>the change of rules, where a lot of it was

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<v Speaker 2>favored offensive players.

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<v Speaker 1>With the three point line now and.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's just shooting so many threes and you have at

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<v Speaker 2>least three or four guys that can just shoot threes

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<v Speaker 2>and get.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot at any time.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Dario Sariz decided to elaborate as well about the

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<v Speaker 2>real difference between hoops and the US versus Europe. The

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<v Speaker 2>gap between the US and Europe is closing because you learn.

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<v Speaker 1>To play five on five in Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>Here in the US, they actually learned to play one

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<v Speaker 2>on one in basketball. That's kind of the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>NBA and Europe. They are probably a lot more skilled

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<v Speaker 2>in one on one. I think this is applying to

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<v Speaker 2>defense as much as it does to offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Shack incredible one on one defender, but.

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<v Speaker 2>The way he like poop poo's the weak side block Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, that's that's how rotations work.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's that's that's okay, we can have that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>an American thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh me me versus you Mono E mono. Everyone clear out.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me block that shit. Dude, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. You don't have to go one on one

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<v Speaker 2>with Jokic. They're putting you in a switch.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. The system is designed to limit what he does.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that doesn't always work, not because he sucks at defense, Rudy,

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<v Speaker 2>but rather because Jokic one is unstoppable and cannot be

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<v Speaker 2>contained by any person or any team on Earth. He

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<v Speaker 2>breaks every system like a stick in a machine. All

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, things just start going haywire. Besides, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a reason, though, like the Jokic is like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the Wolves are.

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<v Speaker 1>The toughest team in the NBA to play. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's because of Karl Anthony Town. You think that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the person he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's talking about Rudy Gobert, and Karl Anthony Town's

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<v Speaker 2>platooning him like it's a fucking gang bang okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're just they're just going weak side, backside, all the sides.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a reason Denver's defensive scheme is led by

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<v Speaker 2>a euro and they're the defending champs. There's a reason

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<v Speaker 2>that all the good centers in the NBA are non American. Jokic, Porzingis,

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<v Speaker 2>Shane goun Yo, honest, if you can call him the center,

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<v Speaker 2>Rudy Dolmas, Wemby, Lusevich, Valanchunis. The best American center is

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<v Speaker 2>bam Adebayo and my man DeAndre Ayton, and he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Even him, He's even Cribbin.

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<v Speaker 2>Born in Newark, New Jersey, bam Adebaio to Nigerian Paris.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're starting to get real fuzzy on American right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like Aiden bam planned.

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<v Speaker 1>For non American teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Could bam Adebaio had the invite to play for Team Nigeria.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he was on Team USC Tmusa, Jared Allen, Mitchell, Robinson,

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<v Speaker 2>Chet Holmgren. Not like the most convincing list of American

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 2>centers if you're honest, The game has changed since Shack

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<v Speaker 2>dominated the paint. Even Wemby the latest center out of

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:53.879
<v Speaker 2>Europe to take the league by storm, he knows. Even

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<v Speaker 2>he knows Rudy's good, even he knows Rudy has defensive prowess.

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<v Speaker 2>But with the proviso. When he asked whether he Rudy

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<v Speaker 2>should be Defensive Player of the Year, he said this,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that Rudy Gobert has a very good chance

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<v Speaker 2>of winning it this year and it would be deserved.

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<v Speaker 2>Let him win it now, because after that, oh av

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<v Speaker 2>la av la, Rudy, that is no longer his turn, Victor.

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<v Speaker 2>Victor's like, yo, this, Let this old head get his

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<v Speaker 2>last one because after that, I'm getting ten in a row. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna average eight blocks a game and five steals.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Wemby allows someone to have the crown before he decides

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<v Speaker 2>to go out and take it for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>his career. Since we're talking centers, here's my top ten

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<v Speaker 2>current centers.

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<v Speaker 1>In the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Jokich number one, Joel Embiid number two, Domas three, Wemby four,

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<v Speaker 2>bam Adebayo five. BAM fans will not like that. BAM

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<v Speaker 2>fans will not the band fans. They will not like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't put him above I didn't put Porzincis above you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bam and I thought about it real hard. Rudy Shane Goon,

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<v Speaker 2>I put you above Rudy Okay Bam, Rudy Shang, Goon,

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<v Speaker 2>Chet and Jared Allen. I think in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>future of the American center, I think it's Chet. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he takes over and I can see a day

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<v Speaker 2>where he and Wemby are the two best centers.

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<v Speaker 1>In the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally, this final Center news serves as Trista's Dopez Superstat

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<v Speaker 2>of the Week aka the stat of the week that only.

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<v Speaker 1>Comes every three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Gafford, the center for the Mavericks, had his streak

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 2>of thirty three straight made basket snapped in the first

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:46.160
<v Speaker 2>quarter against OKC. That's crazy. That is an absurd stat.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to read that again to fully process what

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<v Speaker 2>it meant.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say it again so that we all know.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Gafford had a streak of thirty three straight made

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:04.360
<v Speaker 2>basst and that was snapped the other night against Oka.

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<v Speaker 1>See in the first quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only other one other person that's ever made more.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me let you guess this pause for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just put this Spotify or the Apple on pause,

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<v Speaker 2>and just dude, it was Will right like it's Will

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<v Speaker 2>Will fucking Chamberlain, who was also Center thirty five straight

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<v Speaker 2>made baskets in nineteen sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>What an alien?

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<v Speaker 2>You can't convince me otherwise, Wimby's gonna be the new Wilt. God,

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<v Speaker 2>Damn Daniel, you leave the Losington Lizards and then you

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<v Speaker 2>go on Oh I thought I was a damn Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>like YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn Daniel.

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<v Speaker 2>You leave the Washington Lizards and then you go a

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<v Speaker 2>week without missing a shot. You probably went weeks without

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<v Speaker 2>making a shot in Wizardland.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Was it that bad? There? Blink twice if you're

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<v Speaker 1>still traumatized, Yes, I'm sure it was. That's why your.

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