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Speaker 1: Here we go. It's hour two loaded. Good one tonight too.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine ers still haven't lost a blazing five

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Speaker 1: pick yet three oho to one. J McK and I

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Speaker 1: have both had good weekends. Matt Hasselbeck's around the corner.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, all weekend long, people are complaining about the

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Speaker 1: college football playoffs. I can't believe this team got in

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Speaker 1: and that team got in. Go to March Madness. You

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Speaker 1: keep telling me that's the greatest sporting event in the world.

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Speaker 1: Like twenty five teams to get into that thing? Unwatchable?

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Speaker 1: Bottom line? Do you get the top sixteen college basketball

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Speaker 1: teams in? Do you get the top sixteen in the

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Speaker 1: rest of It's filler, That's how I feel about this thing.

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Speaker 1: Do you get the top eight teams in? Hey got

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Speaker 1: four teams that you know, we know Texas probably better

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Speaker 1: than James Madison. I think we could agree Notre Dames

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Speaker 1: better than two Lane, but they had their opportunity. Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame played Texas and Miami couldn't win either. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the regular season's got to mean something, so I think

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Speaker 1: the college football playoff. I can't wait to watch the

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Speaker 1: next seven games. Here we go, Colin right, Colin wrong?

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right. New England was my surprise playoff pick.

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Speaker 1: Fourth year in a row. My surprise playoff team has

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Speaker 1: made it twelve and three, tripled their win total, could

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Speaker 1: still land the number one seed. You know, it's amazing

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Speaker 1: what they've done offensively from thirty first to six. The

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Speaker 1: Kyle Williams great play. We talked about him as he

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Speaker 1: was a tremendously gifted college player, Stefan Diggs, Henry. It's

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Speaker 1: a big playoffense and it last year there was none

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Speaker 1: of that juice. So we got that one right.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin once again secures a winning season. They could

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Speaker 1: actually win eleven games in Pittsburgh. Now, the game got

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Speaker 1: a little squirrely in the end, but make no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it, Pittsburgh was absolutely the better team, holding Detroit

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Speaker 1: to fifteen rushing yards and listen, are they good enough

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Speaker 1: to win a playoff game? I don't know, but they

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Speaker 1: ran the ball. They haven't done that consistently in years.

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Speaker 1: Aaron has been tremendous. He gets him out of trouble,

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Speaker 1: no negative plays in the end.

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Speaker 2: I was wrong where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Slinging Sammy d leads his division, Seattle leads the NFL

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Speaker 1: in point differential. What's interesting with sam He's completing sixty

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Speaker 1: it's no dinking dunk. He's throwing the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four total touchdowns the last two years. He has

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Speaker 1: more passing touchdowns than Josh Allen, so first quarterback ever.

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Speaker 1: Back to back seasons, two different teams to win twelve games.

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Speaker 2: Right on Sammy, Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: I love Trevor Lawrence for years, but all the turnovers

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Speaker 1: I surrendered. They were five and four after losing the Texans,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm done, and then they got in a heater.

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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen deserves a ton of credit. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: have him in my hurt hierarchy until last week. But

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Speaker 1: they've just got a lot of good players, you know

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Speaker 1: minute I gave up on Trevor Lawrence, he pivoted where

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Speaker 1: Colin was right New York Jet. Now, excuse me, New

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Speaker 1: York Giant fans, Colin, you're crazy thinking we should draft

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza. Yeah, Jackson Dart had one completion in the

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Speaker 1: But the fact that you wouldn't consider Mendoza with a

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Speaker 2: Everything where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers start of the season one in three.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, this is a bush League operation.

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Speaker 1: But Dan Morgan, former player, GM nice draft, Dave Kanalis

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Speaker 1: But when I watch Carolina, I'm like, I just watched

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Speaker 1: Kaylen de Boor, don't listen to the trolls. He is

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Speaker 1: you can do. Where Colin was right, Miami Hurricanes kept saying, folks,

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Speaker 1: wrong on a Monday, and here's Matt Hasselback eighteen years

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Speaker 1: A lot of teams feel like, okay, there they are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. They just got to stay healthy.

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Speaker 4: Listen, this is a team that no one even expected

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Speaker 4: even Mike Vrabel the way they talked about it. They

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Speaker 4: we're building something for success down the road. So the

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Speaker 4: success of Drake May in this offense has been incredible.

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Speaker 4: They use free agency mostly to fix the defense, and

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Speaker 4: the defense really hasn't been what it's been because Milton

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Speaker 4: think what the big question mark was can we protect

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Speaker 4: And he's been that, you know, even without his left

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Speaker 4: the coaching matters and Mike Rabel and Josh McDaniels and

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Speaker 1: It one of my favorite And I said, I'm really

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Speaker 1: impressed with Aaron. And you could say, well, what about

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Speaker 1: green Bay? Well Farruning, green Bay, Jordan love One, Malik

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Speaker 1: Willis looked great Aaron, Like, Green Bay does quarterback right,

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Speaker 1: old lines. Obviously, he's a great Hall of Fame talent.

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Speaker 1: But Pittsburgh was offensive, quicksand and one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: They don't run it consistently. I'm kind of blown away

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Speaker 1: by what Aaron's done because this offense for seven years, Matt,

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Speaker 4: Well, they haven't been very consistent this year either, you know,

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Speaker 4: they've been like, oh, we're going to be an empty

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Speaker 3: And we can. But yesterday I thought was the start

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Speaker 4: And you hear Mike Tomlin talk about December football, what

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Speaker 4: You got to be able to run the ball, and

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Speaker 4: So I think this is exactly what I've been sort

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers sees it all. He's a historian of the game.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing the defense can do. Let him be the maestro,

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Speaker 3: He doesn't need to be Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 4: He can just get us into the perfect play, give

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Speaker 4: maybe this actually helps him in a way. If DK

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Speaker 3: And then you leave him one on one. We got

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, the Hall of Fame thrower.

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Speaker 1: You know there used to be it's called there's a

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Speaker 1: tournament Baseball A bad ball hitter. I think it was.

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Speaker 1: Vlad Guerrero was known. Vlad Guerrero would hit pitches you

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Speaker 3: No batting gloves too, which is hard to do.

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Speaker 1: Colin, I watched Caleb. The layups I'm not sure about,

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Speaker 1: but some of the plays he makes, I'm like, what,

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Speaker 1: it's just different. It's hard for me to find a prototype.

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Speaker 1: You tell me what you see.

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Speaker 3: Listen this The last two weeks have been great.

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Speaker 4: He out dueled Door Sanders against Cleveland, against Malik Willis.

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Speaker 4: He clearly was the guy at the moment of truth,

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Speaker 4: when the game is on the line, when your best

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Speaker 4: because he has this stuff that you can't coach. And

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Speaker 4: you know, some of the other stuff I think will

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Speaker 4: and they could stand up to anybody. And that's why

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Speaker 4: all three of those teams are still in play for

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Speaker 4: the one seed in the NFC. And in this new age,

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Speaker 4: that's the only bye week. And you know it's not

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Speaker 4: like two you just get one. One team gets a

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Speaker 4: bye week now, So that'll be a great one to

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Speaker 4: watch at the end.

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Speaker 1: Matt, Great seeing you on a Monday as always. See

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Speaker 1: ye all right, Yeah, you know it's funny about the

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Speaker 1: football so strange. Like if I was Seattle and I

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Speaker 1: was that young, I would not want to buy week

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Speaker 1: bone Knicks. I would not want to buy week like.

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Speaker 1: There are teams that I look at, like Pittsburgh that

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Speaker 1: would be a great team to get a bye week.

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Speaker 1: You got a forty two year old quarterback, you've got

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Speaker 1: some you know, long in the tooth defenders. Pittsburgh, they're

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Speaker 1: not gonna get it. But if Pittsburgh could get a

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Speaker 1: bye week, that would be great for Pittsburgh, San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Kyle Shanahan gets an extra week. With

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Speaker 1: all those offensive weapons, they're a little there. Was feel

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Speaker 1: like they're close to being beat up. I would love

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Speaker 1: that Philadelphia has had o line injuries. Philadelphia could use

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Speaker 1: a bye week. But a lot of these teams like,

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Speaker 1: I'm Jacksonville, I don't want to buy week. I want

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Speaker 1: to play. I'm Jacksonville. This room, this organization is literally

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Speaker 1: coming flying downhill. I don't want to buy week. Seattle

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Speaker 1: young team plays with a lot of juice. I don't

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Speaker 1: want any bye week for them. Rams are a little

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Speaker 1: hit mess. Give Stafford a little time. Feel a little better,

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Speaker 1: Davonte the hamstring. But it's a lot of times you'll

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Speaker 1: get buys as a huge advantage. That's a coin flip

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Speaker 1: to me. I don't think it's that big of advantage

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Speaker 1: in football unless you're a really old team.

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Speaker 5: You took those clips totally of context.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you

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Speaker 7: out and beat you.

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Speaker 2: Let me put this into context. Shut up.

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Speaker 6: Con let's start with that Sunday night football thriller. I

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Speaker 6: had the Ravens. I was feeling good up eleven with

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Speaker 6: about eleven minutes left and an absolute choke job. Lamar

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Speaker 6: Jackson is the big story this morning. He took a

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Speaker 6: knee in the back, and it looks like after a

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Speaker 6: total oll shot, you're supposed to be able to go

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Speaker 6: back in. He couldn't even play after getting the shot,

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Speaker 6: and he said it to the media last night. He

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Speaker 6: took the shot, still couldn't go back in. I don't

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Speaker 6: know what his status is for next week. Here's Lamar

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Speaker 6: talking about how desponded he was after the loss.

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Speaker 9: Yes, bro, I can't.

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Speaker 8: I can't control it after like He'm on the ground,

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Speaker 8: like I'm done. I gave myself far as I got

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Speaker 8: need in the back. Well yeah, for the most part,

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Speaker 8: you can say that because he's it and then we

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Speaker 8: find for turns and made the playoffs. I can't finish

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Speaker 8: the game on.

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Speaker 2: My guys.

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Speaker 1: In law to say, man, that guy cares. He really does.

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Speaker 1: But this hits been in one of those years like

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Speaker 1: a JJ McCarthy where he's just had several injuries. They

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Speaker 1: showed it last night in the broadcast. He can't stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: And the sport is it's pretty young, the league's never

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Speaker 1: been younger, and he's taking over the court. I remember

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Speaker 1: when he broke into the league. The first two years,

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Speaker 1: you're like, dude, you got to learn to slide. You're

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Speaker 1: taking too many shots. This stuff is punitive. It adds

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Speaker 1: up unless you're as big as like Cam or Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen like it it. I remember justin Herbert's first two years,

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Speaker 1: you're like, dude, do not put your shoulder down with

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Speaker 1: a linebacker get out of bounds fast. He's just it

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Speaker 1: feels like he's just falling apart.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you're wrong, Colin. At to be Early

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Speaker 6: in the show, remember I said, I think it's over

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Speaker 6: for this Ravens run. That they've had the chief, same deal,

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Speaker 6: the coach and the quarterback have been together forever. It's

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Speaker 6: been great. It's over. You look at this roster other

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Speaker 6: than Kyle Hamilton. You tell me who won that defense?

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Speaker 6: Does anything? Why like pockets all night?

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Speaker 1: I thought Drake May was good with pressure. I always

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Speaker 1: trust Baltimore to get it right.

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Speaker 6: I listen, it's a tall order.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 6: AZZI knew some him in that they had a great run. Klein,

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Speaker 6: Let's be real. This John Harbaugh situation is percolating. I

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Speaker 6: know some Ravens fans. They are passionate. They go to

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Speaker 6: all the games, or with the not that the boosters, whatever,

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Speaker 6: whatever you want to call them. These people are upset

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Speaker 6: with Harball. They want him out. Colin, How does Dereck

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Speaker 6: Henry have a touchdown run to put you up eleven

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Speaker 6: and never touch the ball again in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 6: you didn't get a touch Why.

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Speaker 1: Does Dereck Henry keep fumbling in big spot.

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Speaker 6: Well he's getting old. And Lamar Jackson just looked it

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Speaker 6: up to his twenty nine and about what two weeks here. Listen, man,

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Speaker 6: this is going to be a big rebuild. The offensive

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Speaker 6: line a great Ronnie Stanley's just always hurt, Colin. Everybody

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Speaker 6: has a good run and they paid Lamar. I don't

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Speaker 6: see a path. What would you say the odds are

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Speaker 6: right now that John Harbaugh is the Michigan coach next

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Speaker 6: year versus staying in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Zero he will be the coach of the Ravens next year.

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Speaker 6: I would say likely, But I don't think zero, Colin.

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Speaker 6: I'm just telling you, when.

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Speaker 1: You go from the best owner maybe in sports, to Michigan,

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Speaker 1: which is.

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Speaker 6: What it's like the team, what if it's not his call.

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Speaker 1: They don't fire people like that, they don't. This is

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Speaker 1: a really huge parting of the way.

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Speaker 6: What did Gwyneth Paltrow call it an unconscious uncoupling? I mean, listen,

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Speaker 6: there is some these Ravens fans are not happy Colin.

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Speaker 1: The Severn sideways, they're fan, they're fans.

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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers is a fifty seven year old fossil and

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Speaker 6: he's gonna be leading the Steelers to the playoffs. If

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Speaker 6: the Steelers win, it's over Ravens no playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's not like they were terrible. Their

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Speaker 1: quarterback got hurt. Baltimore to me's not done hurt.

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Speaker 6: Wait wait, how come Joe Burrow's glass Joe and Lamar

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Speaker 6: is well, he got hurt. I mean I'd like to see,

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Speaker 6: maybe for tomorrow, we'll get you some numbers how many

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Speaker 6: games have been missed by the star quarterbacks Lamar versus Burrow.

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Speaker 6: Because it's probably close. I think Burrow's got it buy

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Speaker 6: a few.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean we were on this for years. Like,

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Speaker 1: Lamar took some shots, and he's not a thick guy,

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Speaker 1: so I didn't love that part. I might take his.

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Speaker 1: He'll have an off season. Lamar's gonna come back fast

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Speaker 1: and healthy. They're gonna hit on three or four draft picks.

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Speaker 1: They'll be fucked.

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Speaker 6: I love the optimism you got. Well, I mean somebody

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Speaker 6: needs to be positive.

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Speaker 1: I mean they've they've been a great organization. If you

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Speaker 1: if I have trust your owner, your GM, your coach,

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Speaker 1: your quarterback, to me, they've got a's across the board.

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Speaker 1: You have dips like Kansas City they'll rebuild. I think

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Speaker 1: it's more of a rebuild than a retool. But Kansas

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Speaker 1: City would be good next year. They may not be great,

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Speaker 1: but they'll get it around. I just I trust smart

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Speaker 1: people who have a history of fixing stuff to once

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Speaker 1: again fixed stuff.

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Speaker 6: Double digit wins next year more likely Ravens are Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Ravens weaker division, weaker division.

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Speaker 6: I see, yes, good call, all right. Next story, another

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Speaker 6: quarterback injury, Colin. This one stinks Josh Allen. I'm sure

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Speaker 6: you saw this play in real time. He's trying to

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Speaker 6: avoid Miles Garrett and Mason Graham. He's like, oh, oh,

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Speaker 6: what's going on? And he turns his ankle, goes down.

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Speaker 6: Something happened. It was clear when he got up, Josh

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Speaker 6: Allen was not one hundred percent. They took X rays

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Speaker 6: at halftime. He finished the game, but he did not

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Speaker 6: look good at all. Nope, A lot of people, oh,

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Speaker 6: Josh can't win the end.

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Speaker 1: And how about the offense. When he came back.

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Speaker 6: The second half, they did nothing. Now, James coput nuclear

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Speaker 6: first half, thank you to my fantasy team, but he

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Speaker 6: did nothing second half. They held on in that game.

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Speaker 6: Colin Josh Allen twelve of nineteen for a Bucks thirty.

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Speaker 6: Here's McDermott on the status of his quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Josh isn't one to lead on if he is. He's

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Speaker 5: so he's so tough, so competitive, so you know, it's

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Speaker 5: hard to tell what's really going on inside of that

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Speaker 5: heartbeat of his you know, he's so. He just loves

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Speaker 5: being out there with his teammates. So it looked like

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Speaker 5: he threw the ball, you know well, And but outside

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Speaker 5: of that, I don't. I don't have a great feel

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Speaker 5: for where he's at right now.

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Speaker 1: They've been very good. Brandon Bean's very much a cap guy.

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Speaker 1: They've been very good with a cap. They need to

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Speaker 1: hit on some draft picks. I mean, I'm watching that

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Speaker 1: game when Josh Allen's not one hundred percent, Cleveland's going

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Speaker 1: toe to toe.

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Speaker 6: Keon Coleman another healthy scratch. The kid out of Michigan State.

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Speaker 6: We knew he was a question mark. Lenished the season

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Speaker 6: of Florida State. Yeah, he might have started at Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Oh, he was a hooper, but he looks like a failure. Colin.

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Speaker 6: Here's the thing, Listen, I love football. I cannot deal

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Speaker 6: with these star quarterbacks going down. It just concerns me.

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Speaker 6: I mean Christmas Day, we got three third stringers. I

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Speaker 6: don't want to see Aluticon or whatever his name is

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Speaker 6: on the Chiefs in the playoffs. Well, we need Josh

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Speaker 6: Allen healthy. Man, No, Josh'll be fine. But you know

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Speaker 6: we remember just think of the quarterbacks that are making it.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna get potentially a Bryce Young and Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 6: a Darnold. We have redemption stories.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Old Stafford, We're gonna have young bo Nicks.

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Speaker 1: I think the quarterback, all the quarterbacks I want to

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Speaker 1: watch almost all of them are there. Joe Burrow, we've

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Speaker 1: stud it for years. He's having to carry a less

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Speaker 1: than ideal ownership situation. And Mahomes had a rare down year.

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Speaker 1: I think it shows and illustrates the depth of quarterback

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Speaker 1: talent in this league. I mean, I want to watch

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Speaker 1: Party in the playoffs. I want to watch Darnold in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I want to watch Jordan Love in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch Drake May and Caleb in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: Stop, did you say brock perty you want to watch

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Speaker 6: him in the playoffs? Okay, look at that he likes Purty.

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Speaker 6: I would, I would quite. This is a good discussion

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Speaker 6: because Colin this is how bad the quarterback depth is.

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Speaker 6: The Colts needed somebody, so they called Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 6: who's been on a sofa for five.

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Speaker 1: Years and it was great television.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So who are the chiefs gonna call? Because I

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Speaker 6: don't want to see this aluticun guy on Christmas Dale

646
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Speaker 6: on my TV throwing at Travis Kelce.

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Speaker 1: Well, then it's Christmas. Wrap some presents and don't watch.

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Speaker 6: Can we get Ben Roethlisberger?

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Speaker 9: Is he?

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Speaker 6: Is he taping a podcast that day?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean I need to see I need stars and

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Speaker 6: I Josh Allen please stay ny.

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Speaker 1: Plenty of stars.

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Speaker 6: All right, final story call. Let's go to the Niners.

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Speaker 6: They got a big one tonight against the Colts. I

657
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Speaker 6: think this is for you. Who do you have in

658
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Speaker 6: this for Blazon five?

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Speaker 1: I have the Niners because it's indoors and there won't

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Speaker 1: be any clouds, So I like him.

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Speaker 6: No rain, Yes for brock Perdy. Here he is Purty

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Speaker 6: QB one talking about all the things going on in

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Speaker 6: tonight's game against the Colts.

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Speaker 9: Obviously it's nice but I mean, we really do have

665
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Speaker 9: to take you one day at a time because if

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Speaker 9: we don't obviously take care of business this week, then

667
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Speaker 9: none of that matters. So for us, it's how can

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Speaker 9: we continue to get better just even this week at practice?

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Speaker 9: Handle business on Monday, and they make that everything right now.

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Speaker 1: So that's where we have to be. Maybe the best

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Speaker 1: coaching job of Shanahan his career. Salah a lot of

672
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Speaker 1: smoking mirrors defensively, but the offense. I will say this,

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Speaker 1: that offense is humming they and when Perty's move, and

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Speaker 1: I thought last week was the first week all year

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Speaker 1: that Brock moved like Brock can move. Christian mccaffert, Trent Williams,

676
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Speaker 1: by the way, still very good at left tackle, still elite.

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Speaker 1: So when when broadcasts time and he's healthy, it's a

678
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Speaker 1: fun offense. Jennings and they don't need Brandon, I you,

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Speaker 1: they don't need Debo. Listen if you go look at

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, Mac Jones, Brock Purty, if they're healthy and

681
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Speaker 1: Shannan's coaching them, it's fun to watch.

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Speaker 6: Over under one and a half Dougies tonight for Brock,

683
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Speaker 6: Purdy and the Niners under college can let me just

684
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Speaker 6: turn back to clock before we were working together or

685
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Speaker 6: I really knew you. You had one of the great

686
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Speaker 6: takes of all time about John Wall doing the Dougie

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Speaker 6: before his first by a game. Do you remember that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But the difference is John Wall had never played

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Speaker 1: an NBA game. Brock Purty has earned the right to

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Speaker 1: have fun.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's dancing on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: They love it.

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Speaker 6: Listen, the King loves Purty.

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Speaker 1: They love him. And the truth is Brock has delivered

695
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Speaker 1: a lot of big wins for the organization. He's not

696
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Speaker 1: a veteran in the NFL, but I mean he's substantial.

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Speaker 1: He has a real resume, and he has earned the

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Speaker 1: right to have some fun.

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Speaker 6: That doesn't look a couple injury notes. DeForest Buckner back

700
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Speaker 6: gets a huge get back for the Colts on the

701
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Speaker 6: defensive line. However, no Sauce Gardner, no Charvarius Ward.

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Speaker 1: They're back in trouble.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, could be a big Juwan Jetting game. Colin,

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Speaker 6: you and I both on the Niners today.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Jmck with a news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.

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Speaker 1: The herd line news, I mean the AFC, the AFC

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks Nick's May, Lawrence Rogers, Herbert Alan Stroud. That's star Power,

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Speaker 1: NFC Darnold, Caleb Hurts, Bryce Young, Stafford Purty in Love.

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Speaker 1: So that show, I mean, and we're missing some stars,

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Speaker 1: but there's there's plenty of leading men for these movies.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays

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Speaker 2: and Noon Easter not a Empacific Tonight.

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Speaker 6: On FS one. It's the latest chapter in the Bragging

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Speaker 6: Right series as Missouri takes on eighteenth ranked Illinois in

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Speaker 6: downtown Saint Louis And I'll tips off at eight pm

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Speaker 6: Eastern right here or in FS one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I noticed, you know, I noticed all weekend long

719
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Speaker 1: people were complaining about Tulane and James Madison in the playoffs.

720
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Speaker 1: So I just looked this up. Y'all tell me how

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Speaker 1: you love March madness. You love March madness. Let me

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Speaker 1: give you an example of teams that make it into

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Speaker 1: March Madness. Not one or two, Mount Saint Mary's, SIU, Edwardsville,

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Speaker 1: Grand Canyon, Lipscom, Norfolk, State, Bryant and high Point. They

725
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Speaker 1: sound like accommodation of craft beers and national parks. What

726
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Speaker 1: are those schools? They all got boat raced. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you got a couple of college football teams. You're not

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Speaker 1: really happy therein folks, Only four of the thirty two

729
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Speaker 1: four of the thirty two first round games in March

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Speaker 1: Madness were decided by fewer than seven points. It's nothing

731
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Speaker 1: but blowouts. Well, there's sixty eight teams and twenty five blowouts.

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Speaker 1: You can't live with two. Really, you can't live with

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Speaker 1: a couple of lobsided football games. Then you can't tell

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Speaker 1: me you like college football because there's thirty a weekend.

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Speaker 1: I mean, go look at I mean, some of these

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Speaker 1: schools like Alabama play Panera bread. I mean, give me

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Speaker 1: a break that, you know. So whenever I hear college

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Speaker 1: football fans, all I know is the eight best teams

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Speaker 1: in the country starting this week. Their plan. Whe do

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Speaker 1: the games start? By the way, they got this long layoff?

741
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Speaker 1: Too long? But the eight teams and the final seven

742
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Speaker 1: games are gonna be great. Who cares if there's a

743
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Speaker 1: couple of choppy games. March Madness has been living off this.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Cinderella. Cinderella never wins. You can sell

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Speaker 1: certain things to people and they keep buying it. Cinderella

746
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Speaker 1: doesn't win, and by the way, you don't need nine

747
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Speaker 1: protein bars a day. God, if I have to go

748
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Speaker 1: see another guy with his shirt off, sell me protein bars.

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Speaker 1: You don't need that much protein. You get all your

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Speaker 1: vitamins and a healthy hamburger. Next round games are next Wednesday,

751
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Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, so that gonna be great, all right.

752
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Speaker 1: The other thing is everybody's gi I can hear Jmax

753
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Speaker 1: during the is he the worst quarterback potentially in the

754
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Speaker 1: AFC playoffs? First of all, there's no indignity having like

755
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Speaker 1: an eleven game winning streak snapped to red hot Jacksonville.

756
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Jacksonville has been bad forever, so they've got good draft picks.

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Speaker 1: They got all sorts of players Denver's twelve and three

758
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Speaker 1: in a really good division of coaching. They still give

759
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Speaker 1: me the number one seed and lousy bon Knicks engineered

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Speaker 1: four hundred and forty five yards of offense and six

761
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Speaker 1: point eight yards of play. Bon Nix is fine. Now

762
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: the defense got worked. But that's okay too, because you

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Speaker 1: know I said this last week on the air, Jay

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Speaker 1: Mack is my witness. I said, keep your eye on Jacksonville. Here.

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Speaker 1: It just felt like Denver had been in so many big, close,

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Speaker 1: emotional games winning all of them. I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville doesn't sound big. I mean even Sean Payton talking

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Speaker 1: about the market size. So this is not college football.

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Speaker 1: The Rams lost to Carolina got worked. The Patriots lost

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Speaker 1: to the Raiders, the Bills lost to Atlanta. It is

771
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Speaker 1: really hard in this league to go on winning streaks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Texans yesterday, we're struggling with the best

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Speaker 1: defense in the league. They were trying to shut down

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Speaker 1: Gino and the Raiders. So you know, you don't get

775
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Speaker 1: an equal effort every Sunday. We know that in college,

776
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: but it's true in pro football. Here's bo nicks off

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Speaker 1: the loss.

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Speaker 10: We got hitting the mouse today and they played a

779
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 10: good game, and you know we let it get away.

780
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Speaker 10: But you'd rather have it hit you now than the

781
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Speaker 10: first round the playoffs. And you know, weren't called a

782
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Speaker 10: wake up call because we were playing well. It's just

783
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Speaker 10: one of those that'll reset you and put you back

784
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Speaker 10: and get you back to you know, you know where

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Speaker 10: you need to be, you know, put you in a

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Speaker 10: good mindset.

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Speaker 1: If you'll let it, yeah, they'll be fine. The other

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Speaker 1: thing is we've talked about this kind of ad nauseum

789
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Speaker 1: on the show before is there's never been more smart

790
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Speaker 1: offensive coaches. And what it's creating. It's creating these second

791
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: careers for Sam Darnold who just needed the right coach

792
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: or coaches, this second career for Baker Mayfield. Well have

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Speaker 1: you noticed this year Baker's not playing very well. He

794
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Speaker 1: lost he lost Liam Cohen, and Liam Cohen is now

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Jaguars and he's really good.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying is you start looking at

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Speaker 1: some of these offensive coaches. I love Matt Stafford. If

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford had a defensive coach, a defensive culture, he

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Speaker 1: not putting up forty touchdowns five picks. I think a

800
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Speaker 1: lot of the Trevor Lawrence Story's always been a talented kid.

801
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Speaker 1: He was a like number one high school quarterback. It

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Speaker 1: took him a long time, many many years. But eventually,

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Speaker 1: if you're talented, you'll get the right boss. If you're

804
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Speaker 1: a great actor, you'll eventually, you know, you hear all

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Speaker 1: these stories. Everybody thinks Matt Damon was an overnight success.

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Speaker 1: He and Ben Affleck, I mean they worked on goodwill

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Speaker 1: hunting for like fifteen years. Like eventually, if you just

808
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Speaker 1: keep at it, It doesn't matter what field you're in.

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Speaker 1: Just keep at it, keep your head down, keep working.

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Speaker 1: You'll get a good boss. You'll get a good producer,

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Speaker 1: you'll get a good director. May take it twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: I mean Rodney Dangerfield got popular. He was like in

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Speaker 1: his fifties, like, if you care about something. Matt hasselback

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Speaker 1: on this season for Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: Trevor's a guy that was taking a lot of heat

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Speaker 3: and a lot of hate and he, you know, gave

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Speaker 3: up a big lead.

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Speaker 4: I think it was against Houston, and everyone's like, oh,

819
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Speaker 4: this is, you know, the same old Jags. Some people

820
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Speaker 4: left them off their Super Bowl bubble list. I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna name names. When I look at Trevor Lawrence, I

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Speaker 4: see him directing the pass protection upfront with such confidence,

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Speaker 4: getting the right hat on the right hat, which is

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Speaker 4: giving him good protection. And he's kind of walking into

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Speaker 4: and living into his potential that everyone's kind of been

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Speaker 4: waiting for.

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Speaker 3: This is a dangerous team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they got a chip on their should a

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Speaker 1: mile long, and Liam Cohen is leaning into it. You know,

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Speaker 1: I heard these stories about twenty two year olds and

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Speaker 1: twenty three year old's not getting great jobs. If you

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Speaker 1: love what you do, you work hard, you're pretty good

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Speaker 1: at it, you'll get the opportunity. Finally, Trevor Got has

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Speaker 1: Got