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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, how the heck are you? It's Tuesday and

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Speaker 2: we are free and clear of eclipse talk. Although you

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Speaker 2: got a better look at it than I did yesterday

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Speaker 2: because we were still here at One Bill's Drive, me

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Speaker 2: and our producer Jay Harris, along with a few others,

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Speaker 2: and we got nothing. Nothing. I mean, yes, it got dark,

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Speaker 2: it got colder, but we couldn't see the sun the moon.

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Speaker 2: To save our lives.

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Speaker 3: I got a picture of the last liver and then

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Speaker 3: the first slivers it passed. And also where I was

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Speaker 3: there was a big, wide open space and you could

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Speaker 3: see the shadow of Totality coming across.

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Speaker 2: It was fast and across the Earth surface.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was quite the moment, very cool, very cool experience.

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Speaker 3: And of course then an hour after the eclipse was gone,

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Speaker 3: the sky was crystal clear.

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Speaker 2: I know, if the path of Totality was here at

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Speaker 2: four fifteen, everyone would have gotten a magnificence book.

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Speaker 3: But it was still an absolutely unbelievable experienced, a lot

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Speaker 3: of fun, and like I said, even if it was cloudy,

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Speaker 3: it was still a good reason to get together with fens.

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Speaker 2: I suppose it was most rewarding. I guess the reward

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Speaker 2: for not getting to see anything yesterday is today's weather.

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Speaker 2: It's like seventy five here in Buffalo Beauty, which you

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Speaker 2: know you want to believe spring is sprung, but at

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Speaker 2: the same time you're like, hold the phone, not gonna

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Speaker 2: get duped again.

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Speaker 3: Big work day for me, though. When I get home,

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Speaker 3: I got stuff I gotta do outside though. Oh that's good,

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Speaker 3: there's my chance.

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Speaker 2: I actually started some backyard work yesterday. I'm moving some

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Speaker 2: plants around because they're they're too big for where they

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Speaker 2: currently are. They're infringing on my lawn. They have to

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Speaker 2: find them to locate them to open space.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go, so I'm not gonna go. So

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna make the same mistake again. Because I

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Speaker 3: had to put the plow back on.

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Speaker 2: I'm not taking out.

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Speaker 4: I'm not taking that off.

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Speaker 3: But I did take down the netting around the Atlansk

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Speaker 3: you know, the deer netting took all that that's you know,

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Speaker 3: so I'm I'm thinking.

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Speaker 2: That more to stop deer than to prevent snow drifts.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, because that's why they call them a

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Speaker 2: snow fence.

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Speaker 3: Usually, well, that's not a snow fence. It's that black

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Speaker 3: netting stuff. Oh, it's not that, it's not the orange

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Speaker 3: orange stuff that is. I'm thinking, and I'm gonna you

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Speaker 3: can call me crazy. I think this weekend is going

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Speaker 3: to be that weekend where we kind of feel like

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Speaker 3: we turn the corner.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's supposed to pour all weekend.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, maybe not.

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Speaker 2: Let's hold on that. Let's just hold on. I would

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Speaker 2: I finally feel like we're out of it when we

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Speaker 2: get through Draft weekend, because it's usually the last weekend

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Speaker 2: in April, and once we come out of there, I

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Speaker 2: was like, Okay, maybe some cool days, but for the

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Speaker 2: most part, we're living in the upper fifties, lower sixties

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Speaker 2: on average, right, and we may even get some nice

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Speaker 2: days above that, and then once we get past Mother's Day,

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Speaker 2: we're usually okay.

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Speaker 3: Usually my line of demarcation is April fifteenth, Tax days.

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Speaker 2: That's where I don't know if that holds as reliably

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Speaker 3: By that time, locally, we are usually the pins are

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Speaker 2: Well you're talking about strictly playing golf.

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Speaker 4: That's when that yeah, but that's also the weather.

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Speaker 3: And then also too, and if it's poor in this weekend,

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Speaker 3: it won't count like that, so it'll be the next

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Speaker 3: weekend whenever. But Buffalo people get this your most For

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Speaker 3: most of us, a lot of us, the favorite, your

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Speaker 3: favorite season of the year is always the next one.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't look forward to winter.

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Speaker 3: I like the first snowfall, the you know that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we like the four hard season now springtime. You can

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Speaker 3: always make the case it's the worst of the four

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Speaker 2: Don't know if the spring exists here.

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Speaker 3: Right, But I think for most of us the change

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Speaker 3: I think think, I think for most of us we

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Speaker 3: me it's always this. There's that weekend. I said it

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Speaker 3: might be this weekend until you said it was gonna rain.

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Speaker 3: But there's that weekend when forget about the flowers, and

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Speaker 3: the trees bloom, the people bloom.

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Speaker 2: It's gone. Yeah, it finally comes out, gone for good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody's in their yard.

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Speaker 3: You want, you drive through your neighborhood, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that kind of Weekend's.

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Speaker 2: That's the best I've always thought about this. It's remarkable

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Speaker 2: to me how much Western New Yorkers toil in their yards,

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Speaker 2: you know, to make their yards look nice for what

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Speaker 2: amounts to a span of three and a half months,

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Speaker 2: and then we go through the paces of five months

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Speaker 2: covering everything up, you know, making sure it's protected for

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Speaker 2: the winter, only to do it all over again. And

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Speaker 2: it befuddles me that. I mean, I guess it's just

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Speaker 2: who we are. We're just used to kind of that

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Speaker 2: whole routine. It's funny because my son once told me,

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Speaker 2: it's dad, I'm not I'm gonna be living where I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Because he used to have to help me bring the

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Speaker 2: living somewhere where I can just leave it out all

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Speaker 3: I'll say this I'll say that I don't want to

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Speaker 3: be you know this, you know, philosophical guy and make

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Speaker 3: you know, smile in the face of adversity. But I

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Speaker 3: most people say, well, you know, it's just life. You

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Speaker 3: know you got stuff you gotta for me, though, Hey,

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Speaker 3: it's living. It's we got stuff we're doing, right. I'm

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Speaker 3: getting ready for the spring. I'm getting ready for the summer.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting ready for the fall. I'm batting down the

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Speaker 3: hatches for winter. I'm opening things back up for the spring.

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Speaker 3: That's that's not that's not life. That's living.

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Speaker 4: Let's go every year. Let's go. I got stuff I do.

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Speaker 2: You were a far more positive.

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Speaker 3: I gotta go. Let's I got stuff to do this season,

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Speaker 3: you know, you know, this summer, this winter, the fall, everything,

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Speaker 3: I got stuff I got to do.

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Speaker 4: That That's that's not life, that's living. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: I do love summer, so it can't get here soon enough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I I love the change of the seasons.

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Speaker 3: And you know it's the best man, because there's always

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Speaker 3: something here in Buffalo, especially because of the four ultra

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Speaker 3: exaggerated seasons we get. We get the deepest, darkest winter,

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Speaker 3: the most glorious summers and the best in betweens. Although

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Speaker 3: it's hitt and missing the spring is.

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Speaker 4: The fall is elite.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so.

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Speaker 3: It's just great to look for. We here in Buffalo,

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Speaker 3: we look forward to that, you know. Let's go, you know,

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Speaker 3: and it's a cycle.

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Speaker 2: I got to sign you up with the change because.

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Speaker 4: We do so much.

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Speaker 3: We do so many vastly different stuff, you know, like

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Speaker 3: in the winter it's like, let's you know, we're downhill

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: We're shushing, you know, on the you know, we're in

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Speaker 3: over the top, all of.

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Speaker 4: It, you know. So it's I'm just all about it.

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Speaker 4: I'm all about it.

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Speaker 2: We'll sign you up with the chamber.

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Speaker 3: And now they get and the eclipse has triggered the

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Speaker 3: entire conversation passage of time. We're infinitely small in this

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Speaker 3: huge universe.

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Speaker 2: We are closing in on off season conditioning program start day.

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Speaker 2: As Steve and I in our travels through the building,

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Speaker 2: whether we're running upstairs to get coffee or what have you?

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Speaker 2: Have noticed a little bit more traffic, shall we say,

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Speaker 2: in the hallways. Some players are trickling back in getting

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Speaker 2: off season conditioning workouts, which start April fifteenth. Today is

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Speaker 2: the ninth, so less than a week away.

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Speaker 4: A bunch of guys showed up today.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Saw to rel Bernard in there. Saw a few

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Speaker 2: other players us in there. Yep.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I don't know who.

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Speaker 3: We can't tell you who this guy was because we're

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Speaker 3: really not haven't been confirmed or anything. So brown and

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Speaker 4: Thirty visit, we think it was.

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Speaker 3: Brownie is over his desk going through headshots of every college.

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Speaker 3: We're trying to figure out who this joker is.

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Speaker 2: But big I got him.

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Speaker 3: I got nine feet tall, huge, so he's obviously an

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Speaker 4: But Brownie's going through all the I.

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Speaker 3: Think it's this guy, and we can't tell you because

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Speaker 3: we don't really know for sure the guy and we

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Speaker 3: do not know. But the dude stood out. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he blocked out the sun, so I had.

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Speaker 2: To move over in the hallway, right, So.

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Speaker 3: We so Brownie puts his Sherlock Holmes head on the city.

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Speaker 4: He's going through a head.

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Speaker 3: I was curious trying to figure out who this guy was.

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Speaker 4: We still don't know. We think we know, but we don't.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of fun to do.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so there's it's a little busier in here

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Speaker 2: and some of the players are trickling back in as

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Speaker 2: the off season conditioning program will start next week and

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Speaker 2: obviously not mandatory, but the vast majority of players have

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Speaker 2: been in here for the off season conditioning program with

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Speaker 2: few exceptions, and I think it kind of speaks to

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Speaker 2: the quality of person that the players typically target, whether

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Speaker 2: it's to sign as a free agent or to draft.

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Speaker 2: They're grinders, they like putting the work in. That's the

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Speaker 2: kind of people that Sean McDermott likes to have on

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Speaker 2: his roster, committed to the daily growth mindsets, who we're

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Speaker 2: expecting heavy participation when the off season conditioning program gets

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Speaker 2: started in earnest next week. Other than that, mock drafts

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Speaker 2: you want, But our topic of discussion today deals with

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Speaker 2: this year's draft for the Bills as a whole in

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Speaker 2: its totality. Our topic of discussion for you today, why

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Speaker 2: do you think this will be the most important Bills

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Speaker 2: But I think it was evanent as nice a season

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to take the analogy too far,

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a completely new voice this year.

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Speaker 3: That's that's and I think that's typified by this draft.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think this will be the most important

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Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna get on board. Got open lines through

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Speaker 2: you there. Also, if you can't call, you can hit

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Speaker 2: Just tell us why what is it that makes you

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Speaker 2: on ESPN dot com. He also has a best team

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, Hey, I never ever get on this early.

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Speaker 6: Usually I'm at the end of today. But the reason

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, Mark. I'll say this, You're right.

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Speaker 2: Bills have done pretty good under Being in this personnel

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Speaker 2: And I said this on the show the other day.

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Speaker 2: I said on the show the other day, when he

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Speaker 2: did it in a two step process with two trades

438
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Speaker 2: to move up to pick seven to take Josh Allen,

439
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Speaker 2: he did not give up a future first round pick

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Speaker 2: then to get a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know if he's doing it for a number one receiver.

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Speaker 2: If he's not going to do it for a franchise

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Speaker 2: signal caller, I could be wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the permutations of this trade talk are endless, but

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Speaker 3: I could see this. If they get the twenty eighth pick,

447
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Speaker 3: they get the sixty pick, and then, as we've talked

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Speaker 3: about a ton, they don't pick again until way down

449
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Speaker 3: in what sixty and then it's like one twenty eight. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they don't have it third and they go all the

451
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Speaker 3: way down to one twenty eight. So but I could

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Speaker 3: say this, so you got two twos next year, Like

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Speaker 3: you said, I don't see a major move, but you

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Speaker 3: could take one of those twos next year and cap

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Speaker 3: it with one of the late round picks this year,

456
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Speaker 3: or and get into get into the teens or later

457
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Speaker 3: on in this draftft jump from two o four and

458
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Speaker 3: get into up to into the second round where you

459
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Speaker 3: don't have a pick. They could replace their third round

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Speaker 3: pick the round, so they could get yeah, or you

461
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Speaker 3: could get see them doing if a team has a

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Speaker 3: couple of draft picks and say, listen, we'll give you

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Speaker 3: next year's number two or one of our number two's

464
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Speaker 3: next year for two threes this year or for a

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Speaker 3: three and a two or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I mean eight of their ten three four this year

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Speaker 2: or later.

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Speaker 4: So right, so they could move up slightly.

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Speaker 3: I would anticipate that because then you'd get an extra pick,

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Speaker 3: and you get a third rounder this year that you

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Speaker 3: don't have.

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Speaker 4: So all that stuff is in there. But you got

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Speaker 4: to have a partner, And.

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Speaker 2: I would say the most important thing about their plan

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Speaker 2: in terms of how they're going to approach the draft

476
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Speaker 2: is what their board says about the wide receiver class.

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Speaker 2: If they only have five first round grades in the

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Speaker 2: receiver class as a as a whole, they're moving up.

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Speaker 2: They're probably moving up. If they have a eight receivers

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Speaker 2: with the first first round grade. Granted they're all gonna vary,

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Speaker 2: you know, they might be one point one, one point two,

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Speaker 2: one point four, one point you know, five, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: If they have eight receivers with a first round grade,

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Speaker 2: they're not going anywhere. They're gonna sit watch the board fall,

485
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Speaker 2: and then if there's a run, maybe they move. Otherwise,

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Speaker 2: they may just sit tight. If they got eight guys

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Speaker 2: with first round grades and they're picking twenty eight, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna be pretty harpy.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why I think this.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's the most likely thing because it's

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Speaker 3: the it's kind of the easiest to see getting done.

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Speaker 3: And that's like a five place move where you go

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Speaker 3: from twenty eight twenty three, or twenty eight to twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Whatever you could be.

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Speaker 3: It could be twenty two to twenty three because it's Philly, Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: out of conference teams, you know, what I'm saying, Miami's

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Speaker 3: not gonna trade with Buffalo twenty eight to twenty one.

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Speaker 4: You don't go back.

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna bills, aren't gonna give the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 3: any any aid and comfort.

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Speaker 4: So it'll be.

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Speaker 3: It'll be Philly or Minnesota, something like that. Maybe even

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Speaker 3: the Rams at nineteen. I don't know, though that's a

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Speaker 3: big jump. It's a big jump. It's so I think

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Speaker 3: the most likely thing is to jump, you know, from

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Speaker 3: twenty eight into the mid twenties, from Philly, Minnesota, Dallas

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Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty three, twenty four. That's the most likely

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Speaker 3: scenario because then they'll be assured of, you know, not

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Speaker 3: having one of these other teams clip the guy they

510
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Speaker 3: want Green Bay or Tampa Bay or Arizona clipping one

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Speaker 3: of the guys they want at that spot. So if

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Speaker 3: their guy falls that far, that's what I would anticipate

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Speaker 3: as being the most likely.

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Speaker 4: But and I can't tell you.

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Speaker 3: Why I think that, except that we see it so

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Speaker 3: much from this group. You know, they they last year

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Speaker 3: they flip flopped.

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Speaker 4: Like two picks.

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Speaker 2: They went up one spot, They went.

520
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Speaker 3: Up one spot, so you know, there you have it.

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Speaker 3: That's why I think it's more likely. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that that's front of the front burner.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to George in

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Speaker 2: fort Erie. What's up, George?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, you know it's a rock and hard place.

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Speaker 7: I agree with a lot of what you say, but

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Speaker 7: I disagree with a lot. You seem to want to

528
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Speaker 7: defend him on his later round picks, but pretty much

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Speaker 7: the first round picks have been a whiff for me.

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Speaker 2: Which ones don't you like?

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Speaker 7: I don't like Grusso, I don't like uh. I mean,

532
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Speaker 7: he's gonna be okay, But shouldn't you get shouldn't you

533
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Speaker 7: get a slam dunk there?

534
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Speaker 2: Well, when you're picking thirty. When you're picking thirty, it's

535
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Speaker 2: a little different if you're picking in the top ten

536
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Speaker 2: or twelve. Yeah, I would agree with you. You're picking thirty

537
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Speaker 2: and you get a proven starter who's a capable player

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Speaker 2: for you. I don't think that's a whiff. I mean,

539
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Speaker 2: if the guy can't make the roster, yeah, that's a whiff.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's why I can't argue with you, because number one.

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Speaker 7: Let me just ask you this, If this is the

543
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Speaker 7: fair question, can't we do.

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Speaker 4: What the rams did trade hor picks?

545
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Speaker 7: See can we do that?

546
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Speaker 2: Well, it's arder now because they're they're cap strapped. They're

547
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Speaker 2: tight against the cap, so trading for veteran players and

548
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: adding salary to your books really isn't feasible. They need

549
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Speaker 2: cheap labor.

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Speaker 7: What about that wide receiver they what about that wide

551
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Speaker 7: receiver they want to unload?

552
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Speaker 2: Who are you talking about? Which teams receiver? Me?

553
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Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe it's not the Rams. I'm sorry, I apologize me.

554
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Speaker 2: T Higgins or Brandon.

555
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Speaker 7: Ayuk No, No, I know yea auk Yeah.

556
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, you can't rule it out. It's a possibility.

557
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Speaker 2: But again, because because they're so tight on the cap,

558
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Speaker 2: they would have to get supremely creative with Brandon Ayuk

559
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: on a new contract. That's why he's gonna get moved.

560
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: They can't afford to pay him. Deebo, Samuel Christian McCaffrey,

561
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Speaker 2: Nick Bosa, I mean, they have superstars in their roster

562
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Speaker 2: they can't pay another because they're too tight on the cap.

563
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: And that's on a rookie contract with their quarterback Brock Perdy.

564
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Speaker 2: So that's the only reason they might move him. So

565
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Speaker 2: you have to know if you're going to try to

566
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Speaker 2: acquire him. He's gonna want big money, like comparable to

567
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Speaker 2: Digs money in all likelihood, or maybe maybe slightly less

568
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: than that. So yeah, taking on that kind of a contract,

569
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Speaker 2: as much as it would help you on the field fiscally,

570
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: it's it's likely to be supremely difficult. Not saying you

571
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: can't do it, but you got to get supremely creative

572
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: because you've got to pay him next to nothing this

573
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Speaker 2: year and promise him roster bonuses and other stuff and

574
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Speaker 2: option bonuses next year when you have more capro. One

575
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Speaker 2: of the other things about this to mention you're parting

576
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Speaker 2: with stuff too.

577
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. One of the things that we talked about

578
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Speaker 3: this and he said the first round. The only first

579
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Speaker 3: round pick that has been real huge question mark has

580
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Speaker 3: been Kyrie Elam.

581
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Speaker 2: And jury's still out there though Brownie and I.

582
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: Both feel like they're not done with him.

583
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Speaker 2: It is plate enough to know if he can.

584
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Speaker 4: Right and I don't think it. Yeah, So there.

585
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Speaker 3: I just think Kyer Elam is going to prove some

586
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: doubters wrong. I think this season. I think a fresh

587
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: coaching staff and a refurbishment of the defensive staff will

588
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Speaker 3: give him a fresh start. And I got high hopes

589
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Speaker 3: for him, but you're right, he is kind of a

590
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Speaker 3: hole in the first round pick he got Kincaid, Rousseau,

591
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Speaker 3: Epanessa and Ed Oliver and Josh of course and Tremaine.

592
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Speaker 3: All those guys have got to be considered really solid

593
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Speaker 3: players as first round picks. Josh Allen, including that Ed Epanessa, Rousseau, Kincaid.

594
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Speaker 3: That's a pretty good run of first round picks, particularly

595
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Speaker 3: picking as low as they have in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but when we come back,

597
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Speaker 2: we will get to more of your phone calls. As

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Speaker 2: we're asking you, why do you think this will be

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Speaker 2: the most important Bill's Draft since twenty eighteen three five

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Speaker 2: fifty open lines for you. More your phone calls next

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live. All right, welcome back to

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. During

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Speaker 2: the break, it was made official. Lyle Collins, free agent

604
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: offensive tackle last played for Cincinnati in twenty twenty two,

605
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: has signed his one year contract with the Bills over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. I believe it was NFL Networks Mike Garraffalo

607
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: that had it first that he had agreed to terms

608
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: with Buffalo, so finally got the town put pent to paper.

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00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: Deal is done and he is signed, and I've also

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Speaker 2: learned he is going to wear Jersey seventy one for

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Speaker 2: the Bills. He worried for Cincinnati as well, so missed

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Speaker 2: most of the or all of the twenty twenty three

613
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: season due to ACL and MCL injuries to his knee. Cincinnati,

614
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: once they realized he was not going to be fit

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00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: to play at any point in the twenty twenty three season,

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Speaker 2: released him in mid September last year after playing fifteen

617
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: games for them in twenty twenty two. So didn't play

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Speaker 2: all of last year as he was rehabbing that knee injury.

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Speaker 2: But it's good to go now. We'll turn thirty one

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Speaker 2: before the start of the next season. But I think

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Speaker 2: this is a guy that's not only pretty much a

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Speaker 2: lock to be a swing tackle, he may even push

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Speaker 2: somebody like Spencer Brown for a starting job. So it'd

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Speaker 2: be very interesting to see how things work in training

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Speaker 2: camp coming up. It's this is a seven year starter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not hard to see the upside of sign

627
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Speaker 3: a guy like Lyle Collins.

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Speaker 4: I mean that he is.

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Speaker 3: He's got some chops in the league and if he

630
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: comes back healthy and strong, I mean goodness, Gracious.

631
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Speaker 2: Played his first six seasons for Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Signed right out of the Shinda second signed a second

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Speaker 3: contract with Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they he started right out of the

635
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: shoot He was undrafted because there was a lot of

636
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: there was some stuff like reports on him and whatnot,

637
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: and so he didn't get drafted. And then the Cowboys

638
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: signed him as an undrafted guy. And he's in the

639
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: starting lineup from the word go and hasn't looked back.

640
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: So that's a heck of a talent to grab this

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Speaker 2: time of year. Granted, he is coming off a knee

642
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: injury with an ACL and an MCL, but obviously he

643
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: passed Buffalo's physical and is good to go. So kind

644
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: of an exciting acquisition, you know, low risk, high reward there,

645
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: So good ad for Buffalo for sure. Topic of discussion

646
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Speaker 2: for you today is why do you think this is

647
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: the most important Bill's draft since twenty eighteen when the

648
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: Bills got their franchise quarterback Josh Allen can let us

649
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Speaker 2: know at eight h three oh five fifty got some

650
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Speaker 2: open lines for you one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 2: two five fifty or it can hit us up on

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Speaker 2: the tweets sheet at one Bills Live. But we back

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Speaker 2: to the phones and to Butcher on the east side.

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Speaker 2: What's up Butcher?

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Speaker 5: First of all, a good afternoon, gentlemen, and thanks so

656
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Speaker 5: much for taking my call. I just want to just

657
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 5: really be clear on something right now that we're moving

658
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Speaker 5: into the direction based off Brandon Bean, Sean McDermott and

659
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Speaker 5: his whole staff. I'm talking about the front staff along

660
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Speaker 5: with the coaching staff, have built this franchise since they

661
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Speaker 5: came in as a regime. This draft is one of

662
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Speaker 5: the most important drafts that Steven will disrespect to your

663
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 5: crew when you came when your crew, your crew was

664
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Speaker 5: very special. But at this draft here, we're going into

665
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Speaker 5: the money game now where like we know, cash strapped

666
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Speaker 5: Brandon Bean, like you just said about the great sign

667
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 5: of the coowns, I can see him start at left guard.

668
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Speaker 5: Put that six million dollars that he paid. Applaud Brandon

669
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Speaker 5: Bean into forgetting this guy. But at the same time,

670
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Speaker 5: this draft class here is very important that he strikes

671
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Speaker 5: our as players and we had eleven picks. I think

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Speaker 5: he got like Ken now. But at the same time,

673
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Speaker 5: like I told you, guys, maybe maybe a month ago.

674
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Speaker 5: I'm looking to them and Steve, you looked on your

675
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Speaker 5: on your sheet to see what would it take to

676
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Speaker 5: get the Caroline and Panthers and get that thirty three

677
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Speaker 5: and thirty nine pick. I would trade that twenty eighth

678
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Speaker 5: and maybe throw in a fourth to make sure we

679
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Speaker 5: get that that thirty three and thirty nine. That when

680
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Speaker 5: we can have thirty three, thirty nine and sixty, we

681
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 5: might not have a three, but then we'll maybe have

682
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Speaker 5: a fifth and maybe we can move up in the

683
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Speaker 5: fourth for our maybe even get a fourth for our pick.

684
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Speaker 5: But saying that, it's I'm really intrigued on a lot

685
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 5: of players that's going to be pushed back. AKA like

686
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Speaker 5: the kid looks at is that the wide receiver from

687
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Speaker 5: South Carolina. I can see him pushing back. I can

688
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 5: see Vontez with a situation with the DUI in Texas

689
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 5: sliding back. Now. Yeah, so we can we can work

690
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Speaker 5: with him and maybe overcome get him some talk. So

691
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Speaker 5: maybe you know, everybody makes this d got muddle on

692
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 5: his face right now. But at the same time, he

693
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 5: could take the shower and wash it off and still

694
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 5: be the head of a player plus a big pickup

695
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Speaker 5: in the second round. I'm still going to stick on that.

696
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Speaker 5: And I really believe that Brandon Bean, with the respect

697
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Speaker 5: that he has in Carolina and Caroline, with the pressure

698
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Speaker 5: of them not having the number one for the last

699
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Speaker 5: two years, they haven't got the first round, I think

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Speaker 5: he can swing that deal and let them have that

701
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Speaker 5: one day, and then the second day we can run

702
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Speaker 5: that draft board with three second round picks, so we

703
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 5: can move up and move back and at the same

704
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Speaker 5: time to watch those players fall in the second round.

705
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Speaker 5: I think the second round is key. I think if

706
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Speaker 5: we get a lot of players, the depth that we

707
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Speaker 5: can get off this draft the backup because right now

708
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Speaker 5: we do have twenty two players that can start right now,

709
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Speaker 5: leven on office, leven on defense, but behind them is very,

710
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Speaker 5: very empty. So I really believe this draft is one

711
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Speaker 5: of the most important draft flass of Brandon Bean and

712
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Speaker 5: Sean mcdermam's regime. But thank you so much for taking

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Speaker 5: my call. I love you, guys, I love him as

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Speaker 5: g I love all the Sands and you guys, take

715
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Speaker 5: care and thank you so much. Gout thanks.

716
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a valid point because I think a

717
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 2: lot of us are consumed with oh my gosh, how

718
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: are the Bills going to fill their number one wide

719
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 2: receiver hole? And look, I get it, it's an important

720
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: role to fill. We don't know what they think about

721
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: the receivers already on the roster. Maybe they think Curtis

722
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: Samuel could be a capable one. We don't know, but

723
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: they do have to add to that, and there's a

724
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: hole there in the starting lineup. I don't know that

725
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: there's a hole in the starting lineup on defense right

726
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 2: now because with the defensive players they've signed in free agency,

727
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: whether it was re signing or new players, they've kind

728
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: of plugged all the starting positions. But depth is sorely lacking.

729
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: And so to Butcher's point, if you if you want

730
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Speaker 2: to get the top receiver, that's great. Hopefully you can

731
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Speaker 2: stay put or make a small move up the board

732
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Speaker 2: to get a player you covered that you're fearful is

733
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Speaker 2: going to be plucked away from you right before your pick,

734
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Speaker 2: but you don't want to do it at the expense

735
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: of the draft capital you have remaining. Knowing you have

736
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Speaker 2: depth holes that you need to fill on this roster

737
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Speaker 2: as well, So I think the depth part shouldn't be lost.

738
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: I mean, the front line receiver part is more important

739
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: because that's the guy that's gonna be playing sixty five

740
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: snaps a week for you, every single week. But we

741
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: see what a battle of attrition a seventeen game NFL

742
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: season is these years these days. And if you don't

743
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: have depth, you're just as sunk.

744
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 4: That's right.

745
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: And if you if you start packaging, like, for instance,

746
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: if you start packaging these these uh picks, and like

747
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: if you take one twenty eight and one thirty three

748
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: to the picks Bill's picks they got in the fourth round,

749
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Speaker 3: put those together and you move you could move up

750
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Speaker 3: to the ninety ninth pick, so you'd move up virtually

751
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 3: twenty bottom around three, yeah, twenty nine spots. You'd move

752
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: to the bottom around three, and then you would have

753
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: you would still pick one nine ninth, and then you

754
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: would skip the fourth round and you'd still have pick

755
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 3: one forty four. And then if you took one sixty

756
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: and one sixty three bundled in together, you could all

757
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 3: move those picks from the bottom of the fourth up

758
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: to ahead of that, up to one twenty up to

759
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: one twenty five, so you could still get the one

760
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: ninety nine, the one twenty five and the one forty

761
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 3: four pick in this draft, and then you'd still have

762
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Speaker 3: two hundred and two or four and two forty eight,

763
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: So you'd still have seven or eight picks in this

764
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 3: pick draft, and you'd get a couple of more picks

765
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: higher up the scale. But you better have guys you

766
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 3: like at those spots. Otherwise just sit still and take

767
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: a swing at more guys. I The thing about this

768
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: is the intriguing part about all this is if you

769
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: have the most picks, which is what the Bills have. Now,

770
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: they got ten guys they're gonna pick, think about it,

771
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: and on one end of the spectrum, any one of

772
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 3: those guys and in verture and in fact, any bunch

773
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: of those guys could end up in the Hall of

774
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: Fame's that's the spectrum we're working with here. Some of

775
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: them may not make it through training camp because they

776
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 3: turn out to be stiffs and axe murderers or whatever.

777
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 4: And you get rid of him as soon as you

778
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 4: meet him.

779
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: These other guys turn into you know, you got people

780
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: like naming their dogs after him, right, So that's why

781
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: you want fifty picks, you know, if you can get them,

782
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 3: because each of these guys in their own way brings

783
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 3: something to the table, and any one of them could

784
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: be that Dude's the that's the fun part about this exercise,

785
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: but it's also the maddening. That's one also the one

786
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 3: where you look at a guy and he looks like

787
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 3: Secretariat on the hoof and he's a plow horse. He's

788
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: a rented mule, you know. I mean, that's the thing

789
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 3: that just drives you crazy. I'm still I still like

790
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 3: the fact, particularly that we've been talking about this and

791
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: he's you know, past performance is no guarantee of future results.

792
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 3: So but Brandon Bean's been pretty good all the way

793
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 3: through these drafts.

794
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but Walt and

795
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: Charleston Patrick in Rochester will get to you when we return.

796
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: More of your phone calls coming up. Why do you

797
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: think this will be the most important Bill's draft since

798
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen? Your call's next here on one Bill's Live.

799
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 9: Stay with us, all.

800
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 2: Right, why do you think this will be the most

801
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: important Bills draft since twenty eighteen? We have our reasons,

802
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: you have yours. You let us know. At eighth three

803
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 2: oh five fifty, we lead off with Walt in Charleston next.

804
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: What's up, Walt?

805
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 8: How you doing, Guys? I went online and I got

806
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 8: a list of some of the names of the top

807
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 8: thirty visits. So this is a source by either the player,

808
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 8: the school or his agents.

809
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: We've seen the lists that around there wall but yeah,

810
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want.

811
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 4: To shore them field, what's interesting to you?

812
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the most interesting?

813
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 8: Well? The one Troy Benson running back from Florida State

814
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 8: University has listed, Jordan Morgan offensive tackle from Arizona's listed

815
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 8: as Walker receiver from the University of North Carolina has listed,

816
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 8: Christian Boyd defensive tackle from Northern Highway has listed, Marshawn

817
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 8: DeLand defense and from Western Michigan has listed and on

818
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 8: private workouts, they got Troy Franklin wide receiver. At times, the.

819
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: Reports are out there, the team will never confirm them,

820
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: and that's fine, we understand why.

821
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, but this is from the player of the school,

822
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 8: so it's got to be good, all right. I guess

823
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 8: ol Dura safety from Organ States. Yeah. Uh, another linebacker

824
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 8: from Washington. I can't pronounce the name to find you.

825
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 8: And they also list the private workouts that combine interview.

826
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're aware of those that are out there. We

827
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: totally get it, wal Yeah, and we appreciate you.

828
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: They're like happening right up until the draft time too.

829
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: You'll be you'll be able to Yeah, what days those

830
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 3: happen are kind of depending on where else the kid's

831
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: gotta go, uh, and who's going to be in the building,

832
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: and if they can get people in the building to

833
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: talk to the kid when he gets here, the appropriate

834
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: raft of coaches and scouts. So yeah, there's a ton

835
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: of people in and out of this building, and that

836
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 3: at draft time, of course, all these guys coming in

837
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: and out. You'd be shocked at how many guys come

838
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: in out of this building during the regular season. On Tuesdays,

839
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: they're working guys out yep. So yeah, it's a common practice.

840
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: And the reason Brand and Brand and I brought it

841
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: up at the top of the show because we passed

842
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 3: by one of the guys. Yeah, like, yeah, man that

843
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: you know, he I totally blotted out the sun like

844
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: the eclipse. He's one of those guys you want on

845
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 3: your side walking down the dark Collley.

846
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 4: He's he is the dark Alley. That guy.

847
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: He was huge. So so yeah, it walking Joseph in

848
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: the hall here last year that's the biggest human I've

849
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 2: seen since then.

850
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta walk, you gotta walk way around Lynnvall

851
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: when he comes through.

852
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 4: So yeah, that all these guys.

853
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 3: It's is a busy, busy time of year here one

854
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: Bill's drive, despite the fact they don't have any practices

855
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: and we tend to guys are in town already getting

856
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: ready for the OTAs next week, the start next week.

857
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: A bunch of guys in the weight room today working out.

858
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: It was like old home week, you know, those guys

859
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 3: saying hello to each other. It's been a minute, you know.

860
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: It's good to get him back, and so things are

861
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 3: starting to rev up again.

862
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 2: Didn't take long. We are gonna step aside here because

863
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: when we come back, we're gonna be joined by ESPN

864
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: NFL Draft analyst Jordan Reid. He's got his draft rankings,

865
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: final draft rankings coming out a week from tomorrow, and

866
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: then he's got a seven round mock draft monster that's

867
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: going to be released the Monday before the draft. He

868
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: also has some of his best team fits for the Bills.

869
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 2: We'll let you know who that is. When we returned

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Speaker 2: with Jordan Reed here on one Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to our number two on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Please to be joined

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Speaker 2: now by ESPN, NFL Draft and college football analyst Jordan

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Speaker 2: Reed joining us here. Who's going to have a seven

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Speaker 2: round mock monster coming out the week of the draft,

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Speaker 2: so in just a little under two weeks time. And

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Speaker 2: he's also got his final draft rankings coming out a

880
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: week from tomorrow, top to bottom. Talk about a chore,

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Speaker 2: but he has undertaken it willingly. Jordan. Good to have you.

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Speaker 2: I want to lead off with a two part question.

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Speaker 2: Part one, the record for number of receivers taken in

884
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Speaker 2: round one is seven. Do you feel there are seven

885
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Speaker 2: or even more wide receivers in this class that for

886
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Speaker 2: the vast majority of teams will earn first round greats?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's been the big discussion about this year's draft class,

888
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 10: not only offensive tackles but wide receivers. Those are really

889
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 10: your two groups that are the strongest in this year's class.

890
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 11: And you're right.

891
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 10: Seven was the record said a few years ago in

892
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Speaker 10: the first round of where this group definitely has an opportunity.

893
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Speaker 11: To challenge that feat.

894
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 10: I feel I feel good about six going in the

895
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Speaker 10: first round right now. Marvin Harrison junior of Ohio State

896
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Speaker 10: and Elite Neighbors of Lsu Romodunze of Washington.

897
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Speaker 11: Are really in that first tier.

898
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 10: The second tier gets really interesting with Brian Thomas junior

899
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Speaker 10: ad Ni Mitchell.

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Speaker 11: But that's sixth guy.

901
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Speaker 10: There's so many different players that could go there as

902
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 10: far as that sixth wide receiver. Some teams like Xavier

903
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 10: Worthy of Texas, another is lab McConkie of Georgia. And

904
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Speaker 10: then also you can throw in Keyan Coleman of Florida State.

905
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Speaker 10: There's a lot of teams that like him out there

906
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Speaker 10: as well. So I feel good about six going in

907
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Speaker 10: the first round right now, potentially seven which would tie

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Speaker 10: the record.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Bills sitting at twenty eight. We chew

910
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: this up all day every day and what and Brandon

911
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: Bean has never been shy about bumping up this in drafts.

912
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: He does it more often than not. He trades up

913
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Speaker 3: a couple of spots at least to do it. What

914
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: do you think the odds are if if the Bills

915
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Speaker 3: do have a first round great on a bunch of guys.

916
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Speaker 3: Of they could trade back into the early second and

917
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Speaker 3: still get a guy they like and stockpile some picks,

918
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 3: but that doesn't seem to be.

919
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Speaker 4: The way the Bills operate.

920
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 3: Even if they feel like they could get it done,

921
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: it's more option more likely they jump up a couple

922
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Speaker 3: of spots.

923
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Speaker 10: I think this is the big debate as far as

924
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Speaker 10: what they're going to do. And when Stefon Digg's trade

925
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Speaker 10: first happened, I immediately thought that they probably were going

926
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Speaker 10: to try to trade up in order to get one

927
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Speaker 10: of these wide receivers, especially in the first tier, whether

928
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Speaker 10: it's Marvin Harrison, Junior Odunze or neighbors. But it would

929
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Speaker 10: take a Julio Jones type of trade in order to

930
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Speaker 10: get up into that spot. And I just don't really

931
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Speaker 10: see Brandon being doing that just because it's such a

932
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Speaker 10: deep wide receiver class. And then you also have to remember,

933
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Speaker 10: I think more teams are gravitating towards what we've seen

934
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Speaker 10: in previous years with the Green Bay Packers and the

935
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Speaker 10: Pittsburgh Stills are really waiting until day two in order

936
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Speaker 10: to get the wide receivers that they're choosing. And you

937
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Speaker 10: have a superstar quarterback like Josh Alleno, where he can

938
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Speaker 10: really uplift and grow with that young core of receivers

939
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Speaker 10: as the season goes along. So upposed to trading up,

940
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Speaker 10: I would not be surprised if the Bills ended up

941
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Speaker 10: trading back and double dipping on Day two with wide receivers.

942
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe what lends at least some credence to

943
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: that would be the fact that right now they do

944
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Speaker 2: not have a three They have one second round pick

945
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Speaker 2: at sixty and that's it for Day two. So if

946
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Speaker 2: you want to go with the volume approach, you got

947
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Speaker 2: to move back to get more volume.

948
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Speaker 11: Yeah, you do.

949
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Speaker 10: And I think Brandaman probably wants to recoup that third

950
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Speaker 10: round pick, just because we all know that he likes

951
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Speaker 10: all of his draft choices, but he has been aggressive

952
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Speaker 10: in the past. But I really would be surprised if

953
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Speaker 10: they do trade up, especially with this being a strong

954
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Speaker 10: wide receiver group. And like I said a little bit earlier,

955
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Speaker 10: I will not be shocked if he tries to trade

956
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Speaker 10: back in double dips at wide receiver once he recoups

957
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 10: a third or even getting an extra fourth round pick.

958
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Speaker 3: So you've got in one of your articles as well,

959
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 3: a great fit for the Buffalo Bills, and whether he's

960
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 3: there or not, his ad Mitchell he seems to be

961
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Speaker 3: a guy that would fit what the Bills are looking for,

962
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 3: guy that can play on the boundary, that kind of thing.

963
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts and why do you think he's

964
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: such a good fit.

965
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Speaker 10: Well, when you're putting these wide receiver groups together, these

966
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Speaker 10: wide receiver corps together, you're kind of envisioning what don't

967
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 10: they have on the group currently, and I think ad

968
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 10: Mitchell definitely is that type that they don't have.

969
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 11: That long, rangy receiver.

970
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 10: At about six foot two, two hundred and five pounds,

971
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 10: he runs four to three to three at the combine,

972
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 10: which was much faster than a lot of people were

973
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 10: guessing that he would run. But it shows up on

974
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 10: tape with him. He's able to stretch the field vertically,

975
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 10: but also he's really good in the shorts of intermediate

976
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 10: areas as well. But one of my favorite stats about

977
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 10: ad Mitchell was that eighty two percent of his catches

978
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 10: last year either went for a first down or a

979
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 10: touchdown last time I checked. That's pretty good for a

980
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 10: wide receiver if he's catching first downs and touchdowns all

981
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 10: the time. So I definitely think he could be an

982
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 10: asset in Buffalo's wide receiver group.

983
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

984
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: I mean he had a touchdown every five receptions. He

985
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: eleven touchdowns fifty five catches. I like that ratio a

986
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: whole heck of a lot. One guy that we've kind

987
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: of looked at and found intriguing and thought, based on

988
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 2: some of his testing numbers, could potentially threaten to climb

989
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: into the bottom round one is the Xavier Lagette. There's

990
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: only one year of production there, took a long time

991
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: for him to get on the field. Finally played with

992
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: a good quarterback in Rattler last year and put up

993
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: a monster season and is as physical as they come

994
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: at two twenty one. And I've told Steve this on

995
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: the air. We're watching I'm watching tape of this guy

996
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: and at two hundred and twenty one pound dude is

997
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: running away from DB's that look like track athletes for touchdowns.

998
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: It's hard not to be impressed by him. Could you

999
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 2: see him creeping into the bottom of round one? Is

1000
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 2: there enough momentum for him?

1001
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 10: Yeah, I can see it. And he's a little bit

1002
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 10: of a polarizing prospect. There's some teams that philoz If

1003
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 10: he's more of a mid to late Day two prospect,

1004
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 10: while there are while there are some others that Philosiphi's

1005
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 10: a late first or early second round pick. And I

1006
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 10: was at the pro day for South Carolina. They looked

1007
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 10: really good. There was all thirty two teams there for him.

1008
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 10: So there's plenty of interest in Exevier le Get. But

1009
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 10: once again, it goes back to how comfortable are you

1010
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 10: with the late breakout of him? And why wasn't the

1011
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 10: production there the first four seasons when he was there

1012
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 10: at South Carolina? So what took long for him to

1013
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 10: break out? Now, there were a lot of variables attached

1014
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 10: to that. He has some really good players that were

1015
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 10: on the depth try ahead of him during his first

1016
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 10: few years at South Carolina, and there were some other

1017
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 10: things that happened during his time there. But his last

1018
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 10: season there, he was absolutely terrific. And you get the

1019
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 10: nile in the head as far as his breakaway speed,

1020
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 10: how strong he is at the catch point. He's a

1021
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 10: wide receiver in a running backs body, every bit of

1022
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 10: six foot one, two hundred and twenty five pounds, which

1023
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 10: is what he came in at at the combine, and

1024
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 10: then running in the high four threes that shows up

1025
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 10: consistently on tape with.

1026
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 3: Him, and he just seems to be in that fringe

1027
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 3: group with Troy Franklin, Lad McConkie, ad Mitchell, although Ady

1028
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: Mitchell's probably at the front of that. But once you

1029
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: get outside of Brian Thomas Junior and those top three

1030
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 3: guys at Donzay, Neighbors and Harrison, then it starts to

1031
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 3: become opinion starts to matter, right because you can talk

1032
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 3: up or talk down about all of these guys shake

1033
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: out what happens after those, After Brian Thomas Junior, with

1034
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 3: ad Mitchell, Lad McConkie, Troy Franklin, you know, leak at

1035
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman and all the way down even Roman Wilson

1036
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 3: even down there, who you know, coming out of Michigan.

1037
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: So they got all these guys that you know, we

1038
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 3: always talk about these tiers. This guy's is you know,

1039
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: it's hard to discern those top three guys, but those

1040
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 3: those are real. The question marks about how they're going

1041
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 3: to get drafted by somebody and where and who's going

1042
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: to be available for somebody who really likes them. That's

1043
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 3: where you start seeing teams trade up, trade down to

1044
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 3: get the guy they like out of that group.

1045
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 10: Now you're just differentiating which type of receiver that you want.

1046
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 10: I think Coleman in or I believe Coleman and the

1047
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 10: Lagette are very similar stylistically. Your strong boundary X type

1048
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 10: of receivers that can make those tough hard on those catches.

1049
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 10: They don't have any problems with doing the dirty work.

1050
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 10: And even though neither one of them are going to

1051
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 10: be like your consistent separators that generate a whole bunch

1052
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 10: of separation in the route stems, there's a lot of

1053
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 10: different things that they like to do on that boundary

1054
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 10: that a lot of other wide receivers are not capable

1055
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 10: of doing in this drive class. And then you get

1056
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 10: to that other tier of where your elite separators, whether

1057
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 10: it's your Lab mcconki, you're Javon Baker, even Troy Franklin

1058
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 10: in a sense, even though he's not as physical as

1059
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 10: those other guys, but they're definitely in a similar type

1060
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 10: of tier, those upper echelon type of route runners that

1061
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 10: are able to generate that separation with ease in and

1062
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 10: out of their breaks. They're very good at the catch

1063
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 10: point too. So it really just depends on what type

1064
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 10: of wide receiver that they're looking for. Are they looking

1065
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 10: for those big, strong type of receivers that don't mind

1066
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 10: doing the dirty work, or are they looking more so

1067
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 10: for those natural separators that have really good hands to compliment.

1068
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: How wild are you expecting the top ten to be?

1069
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: Because I think a lot of people are of the

1070
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 2: belief that it's going to go quarterbacks one two, three.

1071
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 2: Some are even already proposing one two, three, four that

1072
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: somebody's going to move into that four spot with Arizona.

1073
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 2: Is Arizona really the first major pivot point here? Or

1074
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: is it the Bears at nine? Where do you kind

1075
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: of see some pivot points here in the top ten

1076
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: that can kind of turn the raft upside down in

1077
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 2: a hurry?

1078
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 10: I think it's that three through five range and starting

1079
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 10: with New England, and I still think they're gonna select

1080
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 10: a quarterback. But I would be remiss if I said

1081
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 10: they haven't went back and forth on that decision as

1082
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 10: far as do they feel like they have the infrastructure

1083
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 10: in place to bring in a rookie quarterback and they

1084
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 10: don't want to destroy another quarterback like what they did

1085
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 10: with Matt Jones not having the adequate personnel and surroundings

1086
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 10: for him to succeed after having a successful rookie season.

1087
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 10: So do they want to welcome in another quarterback, whether

1088
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 10: it's Jade Daniels, Drake may or even JJ McCarthy at

1089
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 10: that number three overall pick, or do they end up

1090
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 10: trading back with the team looking to trade up, whether

1091
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 10: it's the Vikings at eleven, the Broncos at twelve, or

1092
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 10: even the Raiders at thirteen. There's so many different ways

1093
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 10: that they could go with that third pick. Arizona's in

1094
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 10: a similar circumstance. We know General manager Monty I Support

1095
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 10: likes to move around, whether it's move up or move back.

1096
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 10: He did both of those last year during his first

1097
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 10: draft as GM of the Cardinals and then also the

1098
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 10: Chargers at five. That's a very common lot of where

1099
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 10: a QB needy team like the Minnesota Vikings, the Broncos,

1100
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 10: or the Raiders, who I talked about a little bit earlier,

1101
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 10: where they could look to trade up to get that

1102
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 10: quarterback of the future.

1103
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: So if the Patriots do trade out of that number three,

1104
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: go back to number nine where Chicago is or what

1105
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 3: have you, They're still going to get a shot probably

1106
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 3: at guys like Mike Pennix, JJ McCarthy, or Bo Nicks,

1107
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler some of these other names a little further

1108
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 3: down the list and there what is the next name?

1109
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you know Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels, Drake

1110
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 3: May and JJ McCarthy's been tossed around up there. What

1111
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: are some of the names that you feel teams are

1112
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 3: intrigued by, maybe have an upside that they haven't experienced yet.

1113
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 10: Nixon Pennix would be the next two guys in that

1114
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 10: next bucket or that next tier, just because there's a

1115
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 10: lot of variables attached to both of those guys, older

1116
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 10: prospects that really had to reinvent themselves at their second stop.

1117
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 10: Bow Nick's going from Auburn to Oregon and then Michael

1118
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 10: Pennick going from Indiana to Washington. They have a very

1119
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 10: similar career arc. Now it's just a matter of how

1120
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 10: comfortable are you with the other traits that matter as

1121
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 10: far as what is in their negatives column. With Pennix,

1122
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 10: he has a huge or a long list of injuries.

1123
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 10: He had four season ending injuries and as many seasons

1124
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 10: during his time in Indiana, but his resume has been

1125
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 10: cleaned from a durability standpoint, ever since he got to Washington,

1126
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 10: started twenty eight career games, did not suffer any type

1127
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 10: of injuries. With bo Nicks, it's just a matter of

1128
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 10: how much left is there to uncover with this potential

1129
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 10: him starting sixty one career games in college. That is

1130
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 10: a lengthy list of starts, the most in FBS history

1131
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 10: for a starting quarterback. So it's just a matter of

1132
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 10: has he bumped his head on the ceiling of what

1133
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 10: he can be or do you feel as if there's

1134
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 10: more left to uncover with his development?

1135
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: Jordan, we know you're tight on time, especially with some

1136
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: final draft ranking's coming out next week, So thanks for

1137
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: giving us some of yours. We're going to cut you

1138
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: loose here, but hopefully we can catch up with you

1139
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: a little bit later on the offseason. Thanks much for

1140
00:58:59,520 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: the time.

1141
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 11: Thank you guys. As always, it's always a pleasure, all right.

1142
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 4: Thanks George.

1143
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: Jordan Reed, ESPN NFL Draft and College football analyst got

1144
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: his final draft rankings coming out a week from tomorrow.

1145
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: That's like top to bottom, like three hundred and fifty

1146
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: players and then he's got his seven round my draft.

1147
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: I told him out the Tuesday before that.

1148
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 3: I told him before he came out, he's a goner

1149
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: man going through seven rounds trying to pick two hundred

1150
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 3: and fifty guys.

1151
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure that wasn't his choice. Sure, his editor is like, hey,

1152
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: you want to put a seven rounder together for me? Yeah, thanks,

1153
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: give it, Give it to me two weeks.

1154
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 5: Right.

1155
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: What he said there at the end about the quarterback

1156
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 3: Bo Nicks is a quintessential draft dilemma for a team,

1157
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 3: and so is and Michael Pennix as well. So Michael

1158
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 3: Penix is a long time you know, he played a

1159
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 3: lot of football in college and got hurt a lot

1160
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 3: early on at another school. Then he goes to his

1161
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 3: second stop in Washington and they protect him a little

1162
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: better and the guy lights it up. In my opinion, Yeah,

1163
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 3: he's got some miles on his chastis, he's been through

1164
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 3: a few car wrecks, but man, oh man, the guy

1165
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: can really play. He's got a big engine, you know.

1166
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: So and Bo Nick's same thing. He's been in college

1167
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 3: for a long time, Like he's he's in college as

1168
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 3: long as a doctor goes to college, right, I mean,

1169
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: the guy's been in there six years.

1170
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 4: And coming out finally what more is there to learn

1171
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 4: about it? Did he you know?

1172
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 3: Is he continuing to get better or has he plateaued?

1173
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 3: These are all the questions you got to ask. I'll

1174
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 3: say this though, a guy like Pennix, who's a lefty,

1175
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 3: is really intriguing to me because of the way he

1176
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 3: plays when he's on the field. The guy plays, he's

1177
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 3: got a live arm, he's got a pro arm, he's

1178
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 3: got poison in the pocket. I played at a big

1179
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 3: time level in Washington, they and you for twenty eight

1180
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 3: games now he hasn't had even a scratch. So I

1181
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 3: think he did everything he could delay the injury questions

1182
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 3: to rest. And I think going to a new program

1183
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 3: says more about the old program that am staying healthy

1184
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 3: says more about the old program that he was in

1185
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 3: rather than him not being able to stay healthy.

1186
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 2: Or maybe he's just lucky, right, Maybe it's luck change.

1187
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 3: I think it's really intriguing. I think all I think

1188
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 3: there's gonna be you know, I don't know. I just

1189
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 3: think there's going to be as many quarterbacks taken in

1190
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 3: this first round as there are wide receivers. If there's

1191
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: six or seven of each, you know, I think it's

1192
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 3: going to be a very close race between those two.

1193
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 4: Positions and offensive tackle.

1194
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there may be twenty guys taking it

1195
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 3: those three positions.

1196
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, offensive tackle is deep, wide receiver is deep, and quarterbacks.

1197
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: That's going to be yes at the top. It is.

1198
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: It's going to be reflected in round one to a

1199
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: great degree, and it may change the minds of some

1200
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 2: teams down in the bottom around one where you have

1201
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: the run you know at a position you were hoping

1202
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: would get to you and it doesn't. Now it's time

1203
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: to pivot and choose a different course of action or

1204
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: employ one of the contingency plans that you put together.

1205
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: You know, for the draft this year. You don't go

1206
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: in with one plan. You simply cannot. There are far

1207
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: too many variables. There are far too many The differences

1208
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: of opinion on prospects alone is enough to mandate that you,

1209
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 2: as a personnel department, have a multitude of contingency plans

1210
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: ready to employ at the drop of a hat. Because

1211
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 2: all you need, and here's the thing, you're picking twenty eight.

1212
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 2: Those twenty seven teams in front of you today aren't

1213
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: gonna be the same twenty seven teams in front of

1214
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: you when.

1215
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 4: You get to draft night. That's the thing too, because and.

1216
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: It's gonna change live on the fly.

1217
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 3: And that's why all these teams in a round one particular,

1218
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 3: because these are such huge draft Page's first round, even

1219
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 3: the ones down twenty eight, twenty nine three where the

1220
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 3: Bills are picking. Those draft picks are so important to

1221
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 3: every franchise, and so they use all fifteen minutes of

1222
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 3: their time. You're thinking, well, why don't you you know,

1223
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 3: you had all this time to plan, because everything has

1224
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 3: gone haywire in front of them. Now they got to

1225
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 3: call their contingency plan saying, hey, listen, you know, are

1226
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 3: you still alive?

1227
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 2: You know, I mean eathing?

1228
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? Are you? Are you in jail?

1229
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 2: You healthy? Did you ask him that? As soon as

1230
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 2: they call him, yeah, are you healthy?

1231
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 3: Are you healthy? Did you hurt yourself lately? All of

1232
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 3: that stuff goes into this and so they're calling that,

1233
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 3: and they're calling the kids agent. They're touching base with

1234
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 3: anybody they've had who said they might want to trade

1235
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 3: into your spite, you got to touch base with them.

1236
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 3: And this all has happens in fifteen minutes. You got

1237
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 3: like you got eight phones going and they're all making

1238
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 3: the same different phone calls about this pick about is

1239
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 3: he healthy? Do you guys want to trade up? Do

1240
01:03:58,640 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 3: you guys want to trade up? Do you guys want

1241
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: to trade up? Does anybody want to trade up?

1242
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 4: Hey? You said you're gonna give us this for that guy? Whatever?

1243
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 4: And you are you? Okay?

1244
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1245
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 9: You know.

1246
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 4: It's absolutely crazy on draft night. Crazy.

1247
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you we're gonna have to. We're gonna

1248
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 3: do another We're gonna do a bracket for this first round.

1249
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 3: We need to you and I need to cause I'm

1250
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 3: telling you, I think there's gonna be as many quarterbacks

1251
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 3: in this first round as there are wide outs, maybe

1252
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 3: not wide outs. Offensive tackles, wide outs and quarterbacks will

1253
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 3: make up twenty picks in this draft first round.

1254
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 4: Okay, twenty I'm gonna put that on a white board.

1255
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 2: Tackles, quarterback, offensive tackles, quarterbacks and wide receivers.

1256
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 3: Twenty guys.

1257
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be that high, all right,

1258
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: you take the under. I'm gonna take the under on that,

1259
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 2: all right. I think you're gonna at most you're gonna

1260
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 2: have seven tackles. At most, you're gonna have seven receivers.

1261
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 2: You're not gonna get six quarterbacks in I don't think so.

1262
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take the under.

1263
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 4: It's going to be close.

1264
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 2: I think it could be close, but that it's a

1265
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 2: little high. It's a little high for me. You go

1266
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 2: eighteen and a half, you might have me. I'll be

1267
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 2: right on the number.

1268
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 4: Be a push thirty tackle.

1269
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 12: Uh.

1270
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones though, and to John

1271
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 2: in Indiana, what's up, John, Steve.

1272
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 12: I had a comment about the Digs trade last season,

1273
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 12: I mean mid season, halfway through. I started to wonder

1274
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 12: why Diggs was coming out a lot in third bounds

1275
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 12: and no long situations, seeming as some crucial downs. He

1276
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 12: was coming out and I guess he was pulling himself

1277
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 12: out of the game. I thought initially it was a

1278
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 12: sports science saying how many snaps? And I think somebody

1279
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 12: called the show and it was said that it was

1280
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 12: he was taking himself out. Yeah, and then you look

1281
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 12: at I just saw a stat on Facebook yesterday and

1282
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 12: maybe you can fact check this, but said that Lilil

1283
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 12: Sapier had more yards on half the target the Digs

1284
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 12: had over the last ten games of the season. So

1285
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 12: I kind of feel like Diggs knew that, you know,

1286
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,479
Speaker 12: he at some point he in his head he said

1287
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 12: next season him somewhere else, and maybe he wanted to

1288
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 12: preserve his preserves, his you know, capital in the stop.

1289
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I understand where you're coming from, John,

1290
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 2: And we're all going to speculate on what prompted this move,

1291
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 2: especially three and a half weeks before the draft. I

1292
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 2: don't know that we'll ever get to the bottom of

1293
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: the full reasons why it took place, but some of

1294
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: what you stated is is completely correct. I mean, Khalil

1295
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 2: Shakir was a more sure handed and more productive receiver

1296
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 2: over the final ten games of the season, uh than date,

1297
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: Maybe not the final ten. I'd have to look at

1298
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 2: that games.

1299
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was what brownie status.

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01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had brought that up near the end of

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01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 2: this and I can't remember how many games it was,

1302
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 2: but that was pure fact. Yes, he did take himself

1303
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: off the field for some games, particularly games where the

1304
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 2: Bills were running the ball more than they had been

1305
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 2: in the first half of the season under Ken Dorsey

1306
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: when Joe Brady took over his offensive coordinator, and I

1307
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: think he felt that was something that didn't work well

1308
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 2: with him either. Why am Maybe he felt like why

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01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: am I going to run all these routes if we're

1310
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: not even gonna throw the football. I don't know. I

1311
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 2: can't crawl into his head and know exactly what he

1312
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 2: was thinking. But for whatever reason the decision was made,

1313
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: he's no longer on the roster and the Bills are

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01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: moving forward.

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01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, taking himself out on third down was it happened

1316
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 3: more than one peculiar, But there was also some times

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01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 3: when it probably was a personnel thing, and it probably

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01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 3: wasn't the same reason hundred percent of the time. And

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01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 3: I doubt, I doubt, knowing what I know about Steph

1320
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 3: Diggs in the atmosphere and all that, that he was

1321
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 3: saving himself. Yeah, I think it would probably be. I

1322
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 3: think it would be. There'd be another reason, either he

1323
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 3: ran two go routes in a row or whatever and

1324
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 3: didn't have the gas left in the tank or something

1325
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 3: like that. I think it's multiple reasons. But I even

1326
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 3: even if Steph Diggs critics would say there's no I

1327
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 3: don't think there's anybody who can rationally say Steph Diggs

1328
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 3: was saving himself for this his next team by taking

1329
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 3: himself out on third.

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Speaker 4: Down in twenty twenty three.

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01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's a little bit. That's a couple of

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01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 3: steps too far for me.

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01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,520
Speaker 2: Let's go to Brian all the way out in Hawaii.

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01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 2: What's up, Brian?

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01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 13: Aloha aloha. I've been listening to you guys for quite

1336
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 13: a long time, and you know, back here in Hawaii

1337
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 13: it's it's eight thirty in the morning here, you guys

1338
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 13: start about six or seven, So don't always get hold

1339
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 13: of you guys. However, come and listen to your show

1340
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 13: a long time. A couple of things. So if you

1341
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 13: could pick Eric Molds with the twenty eighth pick in

1342
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 13: this year's draft, would that be a win? What I'm

1343
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 13: getting at here is there's plenty of receivers at the

1344
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 13: end of the draft to be taken Number two is

1345
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 13: I always I can't believe you guys haven't brought up

1346
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 13: Marv Levy's best saying when asked about the draft, and

1347
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 13: he would always say something similar to, well, I'm excited

1348
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 13: about last year's guys, which brings me to Justin Shorter

1349
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 13: and Gave Davis. You know, I remember Gave Davis being

1350
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 13: drafted what fourth round? I think way back, you know,

1351
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 13: and if you look at his draft profile back then,

1352
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 13: you know it said that he would be eventually be

1353
01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 13: an average starter. Justin Shorter actually has a little bit

1354
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 13: higher prospect grade, but also an average starter. The difference

1355
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 13: is that Shorter is just a little bit taller. They

1356
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 13: basically run the same forty and he's a little bit heavier.

1357
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 13: But I think Brandon already got his guy replacement for

1358
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 13: Gabe Davis, and I think they go a different direction

1359
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 13: if they stay at twenty eight. That's all I got.

1360
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 5: What do you guys think?

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01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 3: All right y, Yeah, that's certainly a possibility if they

1362
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 3: get to twenty eight and enough guys are off the board,

1363
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 3: or not enough guys are off the board or whatever

1364
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 3: what have you. Yeah, they could always go a different

1365
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: direction because they may have a player there at another

1366
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 3: position that.

1367
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 4: Even we didn't think was going to be there.

1368
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 2: That's a lot of eggs to put in one basket, though,

1369
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 2: I will say that.

1370
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Speaker 3: And I'll say, yeah, Justin Shorter may be their guy.

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01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 3: But I also think they you know, with Curtis Samuel,

1372
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 3: with Justin Shorter, mac Hollins, there's gonna be some competition

1373
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 3: out there there. And I and Andy Isabella and kJ

1374
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 3: Hamler are on the roster too, so they've got some speed,

1375
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 3: and they've got some size already here. But let's face it,

1376
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 3: we don't know about Justin Shorter. I mean, you can

1377
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 3: say what you want and the bills. Maybe they traded

1378
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 3: Steph Diggs feeling more confident about the guys they've got

1379
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 3: now in the room than they thought they were gonna

1380
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 3: feel at this point. Maybe they feel comfortable with it

1381
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 3: and they're taking all of us.

1382
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what evidence that's based on. Well, the

1383
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: Shorter couldn't even practice with the team when he was

1384
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 2: on ir.

1385
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 3: Last year, right they made They may think they know

1386
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 3: something about Justin Shorter or the other guys on the

1387
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 3: roster that nobody else does, and they're gonna they're gonna

1388
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 3: go with those instincts and they say, listen, I think

1389
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 3: we're gonna be fine.

1390
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 4: That may be it, But you go.

1391
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 3: Down the list of players on their roster and it's

1392
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 3: you know, it's without Steph Diggs in that room. It's different. Yep,

1393
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 3: it's very differ. There was a the Tyrrell Shavers is

1394
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 3: also in that room. Brian Thompson six ' four two eleven,

1395
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 3: Brian Thompson six ' one buck ninety five. All these

1396
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 3: guys have been in the building, rattling around in there,

1397
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 3: and we'll see if they can come up. And that's

1398
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 3: you know, I think that's a lot of eggs in

1399
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 3: a basketball Me and BROWNI know nothing about. And the

1400
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 3: coaches and the scout and the players and all that,

1401
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 3: they know a lot about these guys. They don't kind

1402
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 3: of guy that maybe they haven't seen him play too much,

1403
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 3: certainly not in games, but they'll have a real feel

1404
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 3: for what kind of guy they are. And that goes

1405
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 3: a long way. Maybe it does have something. Maybe there

1406
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 3: is something in all of that stuff, all this the

1407
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 3: bottom of the roster, these practice squad guys that were

1408
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 3: hanging around last year. Maybe there is something in there

1409
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 3: that we don't know about it that they think they do.

1410
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 3: If they don't pick a wide receiver at twenty eight

1411
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 3: or sixty, that's the only explanation I can think of.

1412
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, as far as I'm concerned Shorter, you know,

1413
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: I understand his pedigree. He was the number one high

1414
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 2: school prospect coming out of high school, went to Penn State,

1415
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 2: couldn't get on the field because of the guys in

1416
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 2: front of him, one of whom was kJ Hamler. Interestingly enough,

1417
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: and he transfers to Florida and finishes his career there,

1418
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,560
Speaker 2: and we just don't know because we haven't outside of

1419
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: training camp. We didn't see him on a field with

1420
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 2: this roster because he had the injury and went on

1421
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 2: IR and basically missed. You know, his entire rookie season

1422
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 2: turned into a red shirt year. I mean we saw it.

1423
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: We passed by him in the weight room the other day,

1424
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 2: and I mean, that guy is rocked up. Doesn't mean

1425
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: he can play great receiver at the NFL level. We

1426
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: don't know. We got to wait and see. And I

1427
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 2: think because the Bills have to wait and see also.

1428
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 2: Much like you have contingency plans for how the draft

1429
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 2: is gonna fall, you also have to have contingency plans

1430
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: for players who you think can be this on your roster.

1431
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 2: You need backup plans, and I think they will find

1432
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 2: some in this draft class. I mean, Steve has said

1433
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: many times the Bills are in an arms race in

1434
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 2: the AFC. You can't have enough receivers on your roster

1435
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned. You need weapons for your

1436
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: a one quarterback who's one of the best in the league.

1437
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 2: And if you sell yourself short in that category, you're

1438
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 2: doing a disservice to your offense.

1439
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 3: You have to score at close at close to if

1440
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 3: not at thirty points a game on average.

1441
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 2: To be in the top tier this league.

1442
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to be there. That's you can do

1443
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 3: the math. That's like four touchdowns plus and you got

1444
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 3: to do it every week. Now you can have you

1445
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 3: can win games fourteen to ten. Yeah, but you also

1446
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 3: got to win forty two to seventeen. Sometimes you've got

1447
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 3: to score.

1448
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 4: You got to do it.

1449
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 3: You gotta do it a ton and that takes bodies,

1450
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 3: takes an offensive line, takes a quarterback of course, and

1451
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 3: then it takes all these other athletes around you, and

1452
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 3: you got to be humming, and it takes an offensive

1453
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 3: coordinator and it's all of that stuff is there's a

1454
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 3: lot in it. But it better players make you better.

1455
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:07,679
Speaker 3: And that's what you're trying to do with this draft.

1456
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 4: And I don't.

1457
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 3: The one thing we've harped on all the way through

1458
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 3: this offseason that's a little different than other offseasons that

1459
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 3: we don't know exactly what the Bill's coaching staff and

1460
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 3: the scouts and Brandon Bean think about their own guys.

1461
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 3: That more so than ever this year. That's a real problem.

1462
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 3: That's a real problem for us to evaluate where they're

1463
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 3: going to head in this draft.

1464
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 2: I think break time for us here. We're continuing to

1465
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 2: take your calls on why you think this will be

1466
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 2: the most important Bill's draft since twenty eighteen. Hit us

1467
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 2: up on the tweets sheet if you wish as well,

1468
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 2: If we have a little time, we might even do

1469
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 2: a little NFL true falls here on One Bill's Live,

1470
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 3: We don't want to do it.

1472
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

1473
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you and putting it out there to you,

1474
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: why do you think this is the most important Bills

1475
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: draft since twenty eighteen when they obviously got Josh Allen

1476
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 2: and Tremaine Emmons, two huge building blocks for the offense

1477
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: and the defense quite frankly going forward and kind of

1478
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 2: propel them into a playoff contender after that, Uh eighth

1479
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: three five fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five

1480
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 2: fifty the number. Get on board if you want to

1481
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 2: chime in on that, or you can hit us up

1482
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet at One Bills Live. Back to

1483
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 2: the phones, we go into Jack and cheek Towaga. What's

1484
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: up Jack?

1485
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 9: Hi?

1486
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 14: I know that Steve probably has available to him some

1487
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 14: variation of the old Jimmy Johnson draft chart, And I

1488
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 14: am just wondering if we were to trade back, if

1489
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 14: somebody wanted our twenty eight, what could we get? Can

1490
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 14: we get a second and a third? And what would

1491
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 14: the range be on those And is there a team

1492
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 14: that would be likely, you know, in that range to

1493
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 14: you know, to make a trade with the Bills.

1494
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could almost get You could certainly get two

1495
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 3: threes if you wanted easily. If you traded twenty eight,

1496
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 3: you could drake, you could go all the way back

1497
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 3: to even late second round and still get and still

1498
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 3: get two threes. You could get a two and two

1499
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 3: threes in this draft if you traded twenty eight. Yeah,

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01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 3: depending on who's interested, depending on how two Yeah, it

1501
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 3: depends on Yeah, it depends on the where the level

1502
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 3: is you could get because you know two Yeah, the

1503
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 3: three third round picks are worth between thirty five and

1504
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 3: seventy eight, and and the twenty eight pick is two

1505
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 3: oh nine. So if you get to the top of

1506
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 3: the third you could get two of those, you could

1507
01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 3: get sixty five and sixty nine, let's say, and plus

1508
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 3: you could get you could get an that'd be three

1509
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 3: thirds basically for a twenty eighth pick. Three third round

1510
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 3: picks this year for a twenty eight number twenty eight pick,

1511
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 3: so it's it's worth a lot. But the picks ahead

1512
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 3: of the twenty eighth pick you could get, you know,

1513
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 3: it goes up steep if you gave the if you

1514
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 3: for instance, if you gave the twenty eight and the

1515
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 3: sixtieh pick, you're only going to get to seventeenth, sixteen

1516
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 3: or seventeen from the twenty eighth spot. So that's how

1517
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 3: expensive it gets once you move up. Moving up is expensive.

1518
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 3: You can certainly grab a lot of picks if you're ready, ready.

1519
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 4: To move down.

1520
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 3: Like I just said, So the twenty eighth pick would

1521
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 3: be worth three threes about depending on what level they're.

1522
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: At, Yeah, how high or low they are in the round.

1523
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 3: Or I'm sorry, a two and two threes, one two

1524
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,480
Speaker 3: and two threes if they're the right spot in theft.

1525
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: Now let's crack open the tweet sheet, which is brought

1526
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 2: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving

1527
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 2: company of the Buffalo Bills. Why do you think this

1528
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 2: will be the most important Bills draft since twenty eighteen?

1529
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 2: Andrew says, reason why this draft is so important There

1530
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 2: are a lot of holes that need to be filled

1531
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 2: that won't cost an arm and a leg, and you

1532
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 2: can get that through the draft. Yes, I think depth

1533
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: is kind of what's going to be important by the

1534
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 2: time they chiefly when they get to day three, where

1535
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 2: eight of their ten picks currently reside. I don't know

1536
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: if we believe all of them will be there by

1537
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 2: the time we get to day three, but the bulk

1538
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 2: of the draft capital they have is on day three,

1539
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 2: and it's going to be needed to fill depth on

1540
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 2: this roster. We had one of our callers earlier in

1541
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 2: the show say, hey, look, I can see my way

1542
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 2: to eleven starters on offense and defense right now with

1543
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: how the roster is currently constituted, but depth behind it

1544
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: is precariously thin. So Day three is going to mean

1545
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 2: a lot, and that's another reason why it's important. You

1546
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 2: can talk all you want about a number one receiver

1547
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: and landing one in the draft, but the vast majority

1548
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 2: of these picks are going to represent important depth for

1549
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 2: this roster going forward.

1550
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got to get bodies in the door. And

1551
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 3: I'll say this too, I think Brandon Bean has really

1552
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 3: earned his stripes. Certainly, he's got some gotten these high

1553
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 3: picks up, but the quality of the guys he's been

1554
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 3: able to draft throughout the levels of this draft, I

1555
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 3: think is really where he has distinguished himself. Certainly, his

1556
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 3: trade acumen and going up and getting trading up and

1557
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 3: trading down and getting the right guy and making and

1558
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 3: making the right call has been great. But you go

1559
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 3: down through the list and Brownie has done it a

1560
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 3: number of times. You go down through the long list

1561
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 3: of guys he's drafted in the fifth, sixth, and seventh round.

1562
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 3: There's a ton of guys hanging around the league for

1563
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 3: a long time. That's not easy to do. That's the

1564
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:56,839
Speaker 3: difference in some gms, some guys half their draft classes

1565
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 3: out of the league in two years. Bean seems to

1566
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 3: have the knack for picking NFL player. Now, they can't

1567
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 3: always hang on to him because ain't enough room.

1568
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: Particularly they've had a veteran roster the last two or

1569
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:06,919
Speaker 2: three years.

1570
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 3: Particularly where their roster has been with Josh and all

1571
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 3: these jokers that they're signing. They have not had the

1572
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 3: room for these guys. This year, They're gonna have some room.

1573
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 3: They're gonna have some room. So ten picks is like, okay,

1574
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 3: I might want to take all of them. Because Brandon

1575
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 3: Bean has shown his his one of his best qualities

1576
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 3: is getting NFL players late in drafts. Not that they're

1577
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 3: all pros, but guys who are solid starters who there's

1578
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 3: no huge drop off if you do have to plug

1579
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 3: them in, and guys who have sustained.

1580
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 4: You know, Bob.

1581
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 3: Foster is a great example, Robert you know, Levi Wallace,

1582
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 3: great example.

1583
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:46,440
Speaker 2: Those guys were undrafted.

1584
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 3: Those were undrafted guys, so they have a way of

1585
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 3: evaluating that gives them an insight. Is the guys that

1586
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 3: can hang around at least be.

1587
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 2: Valuable Dane Jackson, Tomorrow Hamlin.

1588
01:21:56,120 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 3: So that having ten picks, this may be the that

1589
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 3: you want to have those ten picks this year even

1590
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 3: if they if they use all of them. So and

1591
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 3: that also should give you some confidence that guys like

1592
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 3: Terrell Shavers and these guys might do something if they

1593
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 3: get a chance.

1594
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, John on the tweets sheet says, because we need

1595
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 2: to restore depth after the thinning, out that was done

1596
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 2: for cap reasons, and we have acute needs to fill

1597
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 2: it wide receiver and safety. Yeah, safety is a sneaky need,

1598
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 2: but again it's depth. I mean, they've done a good

1599
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 2: job of fortifying the perceived starting roles, you know, with

1600
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 2: Mike Edwards and Taylor Rapp, and you know you have

1601
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 2: Cam Lewis for some depth as well as Damar Hamlin.

1602
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 2: But Mike Edwards signed a one year contract. You're gonna

1603
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 2: want some youth in the pipeline there that could project

1604
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 2: into starting caliber safety in a year or two, because

1605
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: you don't know what the future holds there. And that's

1606
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 2: just one small example. There are others too, Like we've

1607
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 2: talked about this, Brandon Bean told us Matt Mulano probably

1608
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 2: not back on the practice field until after training camp

1609
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 2: starts at the earliest, coming off of his season ending

1610
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 2: injury last year. Well, how might that change the dynamic

1611
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 2: of the depth you have at linebacker? When Dorian Williams

1612
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 2: is no longer your backup and maybe he's in the

1613
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 2: starting lineup because Malone's not on the field yet, you

1614
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 2: better have depth behind him now. So that becomes another

1615
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 2: position where and you say, well, they could use some

1616
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: depth there. I mean, let's not forget Tyreel Dotson's out

1617
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,879
Speaker 2: the door also, so you've lost some depth at that position.

1618
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they brought in Nick Morrow, who's yeah, but

1619
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 3: you know he's a guy just what Ronnie said, nothing's

1620
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 3: gonna surprise a player like Nick Morrow, who they brought

1621
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 3: in as a free agent, is whatever you call it.

1622
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 3: He'sn't veteran player long in the tooth. Nothing's gonna surprise him.

1623
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 3: Any moment you pick to put a guy like that

1624
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 3: on the field, he's gonna be fine. You're gonna go

1625
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 3: out there and he's gonna know what to do. He's

1626
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 3: gonna do it well. He may be athletically past his prime,

1627
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 3: but the guy is aj Klein is who he is.

1628
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 3: He's gonna make sure everybody's in the right spot and

1629
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 3: he's going to do what he can. He may not

1630
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 3: make an over the top athletic play, but he's gonna

1631
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 3: make sure everybody else is where they're supposed to be

1632
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 3: in this defense ain't gonna get beat because of a mistake.

1633
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 4: You've got some depth there, but.

1634
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 3: Like you've seen with you know, Bernard and Milano and

1635
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 3: the like Dorian Williams, they want athletes out there. They

1636
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 3: want some jokers who can really go, and all three

1637
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 3: of those guys can really go. So bring the guy

1638
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 3: in like Nick Morrow, gives them some depth. They you know,

1639
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 3: you know, athletes are where it's at at every position

1640
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,560
Speaker 3: and they want to have as many as they can get.

1641
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 2: Uh, Greg on the tweets sheet says easy lack of

1642
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 2: talent with skill positions, depth and capital for high end talent.

1643
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 2: We cannot even trade for a guy unless the other

1644
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 2: team eats cash. We have to get lean and mean.

1645
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: That starts with the draft, and we must hit on

1646
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 2: three starters and probably two more role players without a

1647
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 2: third round pick. So he obviously sees that as a challenge.

1648
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 4: We we went around that.

1649
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 3: You're right, they don't have a third round pick, but

1650
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 3: they've got a ton of guys, a ton of picks anyway.

1651
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could parlan that into a three at some point.

1652
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 3: And we've talked about being able to trade up or

1653
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 3: down or sideways or trade this pick for a bunch

1654
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 3: of picks. And with this, with the draft value chart,

1655
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 3: you understand one thing, and the one that most people

1656
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,879
Speaker 3: use is the Rich Hill Points kind.

1657
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 2: Of raft four gms are using that value chart nowadays.

1658
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 3: What it seems like when you see this is it's

1659
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 3: expensive to move up. And one of the callers just

1660
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 3: a minute ago asked us what would it take. What

1661
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 3: could we get if we trade the twenty eight pick,

1662
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 3: We get a two and two threes.

1663
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 4: But here's the thing. If somebody's going.

1664
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 3: To give up three draft picks in this draft, who's

1665
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 3: going to be available at number twenty eight that we

1666
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 3: don't want?

1667
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 2: Right? That's why it's so hard to people out of

1668
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 2: those spots.

1669
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 3: You can't get them out, man, it's hard. They just

1670
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 3: if there's a guy at twenty eight, then another team

1671
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 3: is willing to give up a second and two third

1672
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 3: rounders for how good is that joker gonna have to be?

1673
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 3: Not to have you saying, yeah, you know what, we're

1674
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 3: gonna take him. I don't care what position he is.

1675
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 3: So that's kind of where this draft value chart is,

1676
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 3: and that's why it's kind of why it's so universally accepted.

1677
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 4: You got to really want a dude, You got.

1678
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 3: To you gotta have some conviction about the guy you're

1679
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:35,719
Speaker 3: trading up to get, or you're just throwing away picks.

1680
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 3: You may as well flush him.

1681
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, David On the tweets, she says one hundred percent nailed.

1682
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 2: With so many bills fans feel, get too early. Two

1683
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 2: wide receivers in the first two rounds preferably, but two

1684
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 2: in the first three rounds at minimum. Again, no third

1685
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 2: round pick. Enough of not maximizing Josh's arm. Let the

1686
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 2: ball fly. Prefer they move up in the second round also,

1687
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 2: rather than all the talk of moving up in the

1688
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 2: first round. So that's how he's trying to get the

1689
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 2: third round pick, move back into the top of round two,

1690
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 2: pick up a three, and then just draft receivers till

1691
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 2: the cows come home.

1692
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that makes sense. You can do that if you,

1693
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 3: like we said, you get a lot of picks for

1694
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 3: trading out of the first round. If you take trade

1695
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 3: out and then take your pick wherever at anywhere from

1696
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 3: forty through sixty and take a receiver then and then

1697
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 3: another one at sixty, you're gonna get some really good players.

1698
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 3: There's no question about it. They're gonna be really good

1699
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 3: players in the top three rounds of this draft, like

1700
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 3: there always are. But the closer you get to the

1701
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 3: bottom of that group, the more questions are gonna be

1702
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 3: about where the guy can actually play and.

1703
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 2: Play right away because they will need some help sooner

1704
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 2: rather than later from the youth on this roster break

1705
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 2: time for us. Final thoughts on the tweet sheeet next

1706
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live presented by Colid of Health,

1707
01:27:50,880 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, some final thoughts here

1708
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 2: on the tweets sheet on One Bill's Live on why

1709
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 2: this is the most important Bill's Draft since twenty eighteen.

1710
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 2: Steve is trying to construct a three team trade. He's

1711
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 2: making my head hurt.

1712
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if your Bills trade out of twenty eight

1713
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 3: and they go say to Washington, say give us the

1714
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 3: fortieth pick of the draft and the sixty seventh pick

1715
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 3: of the draft, that will give up. That will give

1716
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 3: the Buffalo right at what it's worth. Yeah, Buffalo would

1717
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 3: get a little extra. Buffalo would throw in maybe like

1718
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 3: a one forty four pick or whatever. But Washington could

1719
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 3: give Buffalo the fortieth pick and the sixty the fortieth

1720
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 3: pick and the or the thirty sixth pick.

1721
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 11: Mate.

1722
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 2: YEA, how hard this is?

1723
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's yeah, all right, convoluted.

1724
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 2: I got to stop right, convoluted. You got to write

1725
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 2: it down me.

1726
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to go through this.

1727
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 3: As I figured, if you could get a third team

1728
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 3: in to throw in a pick and then evens.

1729
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 4: It out and throw yeah, it's don't do it.

1730
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 3: Bill Pollion did it once with Cornelius Bennett once and

1731
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 3: it changed the course of three franchises.

1732
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we you know it's none for the better.

1733
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 4: Let's go. Uh.

1734
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 2: Eric on the tweets sheet says, because it's important this

1735
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 2: draft because they need to retool the team to make

1736
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 2: the roster set for a bunch of Super Bowl pushes.

1737
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 2: We have a new OC and a newer DC with

1738
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 2: different philosophies from most of the drafts and the being era,

1739
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 2: constructing it to fit what each wants and needs. Add

1740
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 2: to the new guard of Alan Kincaid, Cook, Bernard ed

1741
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 2: and Benford a new age.

1742
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 3: It's not time listen to your coordinators. You don't build

1743
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 3: a roster around your coordinators. The coordinators build their offense

1744
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 3: and defense around the players you get. You get the

1745
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 3: best players you can. They build it around them. They can,

1746
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:55,680
Speaker 3: They'll change their philosophies if not.

1747
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 2: There is consultation though, between what players. Absolutely, from what

1748
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 2: we have heard, Brady tells the personnel people, Hey, get

1749
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 2: me a football player will make it work. That's it

1750
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 2: for us today, more undoubtedly on the draft tomorrow here

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01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live, we'll see it one