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Speaker 1: at Late Kick Josh, we put it out there on Monday.

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Speaker 1: You submit the questions. One of you ask about me.

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Speaker 1: a lofty program in terms of stature that I don't

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Speaker 1: have to take a risk on finding out if a

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Speaker 1: guy can be a head coach on my watch. But

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Speaker 1: then I just told you I always want to promote

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Speaker 1: from within nine tenths of the time. If you promote

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Speaker 1: from within, that means giving a guy his first head

435
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Speaker 1: coaching opportunity. There is a little hypocrisy in that. I

436
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Speaker 1: guess that is counterintuitive a little bit. I guess when

437
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Speaker 1: I tell you I would not hire new head coaches

438
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Speaker 1: at my place, I'm speaking as an outsider. Whereas if

439
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Speaker 1: I were actually at that university and I knew those

440
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Speaker 1: guys back to front to back, I know them on

441
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Speaker 1: a much deeper level than an outsider let me currently

442
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Speaker 1: could ever know them, And so maybe if I had

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Speaker 1: that kind of access, maybe that philosophy would change. So

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Speaker 1: I guess that's a fifty thousand foot view versus an

445
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Speaker 1: in house view, and that's the way I'm going to

446
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Speaker 1: justify that, although at the very very end of the

447
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Speaker 1: day it does still sound a little counterintuitive. That's what

448
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: we're workshopping in the X season. We workshop these sorts

449
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Speaker 1: of things so that by the time we get to August,

450
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Speaker 1: everything sounds in line and it makes perfect sense. Fingers crossed.

451
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Speaker 1: Next up where we going? Where we going? We are

452
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Speaker 1: going with Nick? Nick said, Hey, Josh, this might be

453
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Speaker 1: a loser question, what is the one aspect of the

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Speaker 1: modern college football playoff era that you miss from earlier

455
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Speaker 1: eras of the sport overall? Is the sport and a

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Speaker 1: healthy your state than ten to twenty years ago? If so,

457
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: or if not, I guess how can we fix it?

458
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Speaker 1: I'm going to answer the second part first. I don't

459
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Speaker 1: think the sports is healthy today as it was fifteen

460
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Speaker 1: years ago. Absolutely do not. I would ask I'm going

461
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Speaker 1: to kind of do this rhetorically, but you're driving around

462
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: right now, or you know, you may be listening to

463
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Speaker 1: me out in Dallas or Chattanooga wherever. Think to yourself.

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Speaker 1: I've asked this before, I'll ask it again. We're in

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Speaker 1: the college football playoff era now, it started in twenty fourteen.

466
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Speaker 1: We are entering twenty twenty two, so we're several years in.

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Speaker 1: How many aspects of this sport have improved in the

468
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Speaker 1: playoff era. There's a little bit of silence there, so

469
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Speaker 1: you can think about it. Really, think to yourself. I

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Speaker 1: would love to know, because I could not immediately come

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Speaker 1: up with an answer. How many aspects of this sport

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Speaker 1: are better now than they were in twenty thirteen. I

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Speaker 1: guess your answer here depends on what you value in

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Speaker 1: the sport. I don't think any of it is better now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the sport's falling off a cliff by

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Speaker 1: any stretch. It's not like it's it's unsalvageable. But I

477
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Speaker 1: do think we've seen some regression in terms of the

478
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Speaker 1: overall integrity of the sport. It's not a good thing

479
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: when meaningless bowl game is a regular phrase, not used

480
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Speaker 1: on this program, but used nonetheless throughout the college football public.

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Speaker 1: That's not a good thing. It's not a good thing

482
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Speaker 1: when guys not only consider opting out, but now it's

483
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Speaker 1: just expected that it's going to be a norm that

484
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Speaker 1: we have a wave of bowl opt outs. That's not

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Speaker 1: a good thing. And it's not a good thing when

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Speaker 1: you lose your second or third game in the season

487
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Speaker 1: and people tell you the rest of your season is meaningless.

488
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Speaker 1: Why well be cause there are no playoff implications on it.

489
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Speaker 1: I don't think any of those are good for the

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Speaker 1: health of the sport. So no, I don't think the

491
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Speaker 1: sport's overall in a healthier place. That may sound a

492
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Speaker 1: little pessimistic, but it's reality to me. Still love it.

493
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Speaker 1: I still love the sport and I'm gonna do everything

494
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Speaker 1: that we can do in our power here on this show,

495
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Speaker 1: at least to better the sport. That's why I get

496
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Speaker 1: a little animated when I push for things that I

497
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Speaker 1: believe in. It's not for show. This is not a

498
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Speaker 1: hot take show. I genuinely believe what I'm telling you,

499
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Speaker 1: and I believe it to be in the best interest

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Speaker 1: of the sport. But to go back to the first

501
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Speaker 1: part of the question, he asked, what do you miss, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I got one that immediately comes to mind. I miss

503
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Speaker 1: a day in college football not too long ago, as

504
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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, where it did not seem like

505
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Speaker 1: we cared whatsoever what the casuals thought about us and

506
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Speaker 1: about this sport, and we didn't care what tourists thought

507
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Speaker 1: about college football. It was ours. It's kind of like

508
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Speaker 1: our own neighborhood. And if you live on the third

509
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Speaker 1: house on the right, and you live in the neighborhood,

510
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Speaker 1: I'm going to listen to your opinion, even if we disagree,

511
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Speaker 1: I'm going to listen to it. I'm going to respect it.

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Speaker 1: But if you live three neighborhoods down, or you live

513
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Speaker 1: in another town and you're trying to criticize my neighborhood.

514
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Speaker 1: Not only am I not going to listen, I don't care.

515
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Speaker 1: That's why I'm not listening. And all of a sudden,

516
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Speaker 1: I don't know when this happened, and I don't really

517
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Speaker 1: know what necessarily precipitated this, but all of a sudden,

518
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Speaker 1: a lot of people inside our community, inside the college

519
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Speaker 1: football world, got consumed with what outsiders and tourists think,

520
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Speaker 1: and they came in and they said, your postseason structure

521
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Speaker 1: is not good enough or the way that you handle

522
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: this and that's not good enough. And all of a sudden,

523
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Speaker 1: you started caring. And not only that, here's the worst part.

524
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Speaker 1: Some of us started to capitulate. Some of us started

525
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Speaker 1: to try and validate ourselves to the tourist community. These

526
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Speaker 1: folks don't care about the sport. There is an entire

527
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Speaker 1: industry out there that is built on running your mouth.

528
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Speaker 1: Sounds a lot like what I'm doing right now. The

529
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Speaker 1: only difference is I aim to have something substantive come

530
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Speaker 1: out of my mouth. I actually believe what I'm saying too,

531
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Speaker 1: and I'm passionate about the things that we discuss. That's

532
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Speaker 1: why I never talk about the NBA. I'm not passionate

533
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Speaker 1: about the NBA. So I don't waste your time expecting

534
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Speaker 1: you to listen to me talk about the NBA. But

535
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Speaker 1: I do care about college football, and I am passionate

536
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Speaker 1: about that, and so when I talk about it, you

537
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Speaker 1: can rest assured whether you agree with me or not.

538
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: I do believe what I'm saying, and I do genuinely

539
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Speaker 1: have passionate about it, care about it. But there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of folks who talk about it that cannot

541
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Speaker 1: claim the latter couple of points I made. They don't

542
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Speaker 1: care about it. They're like locusts. They come in and

543
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: they see there's a hot topic over here. In this case,

544
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: let's call it playoff expansion, or let's call it the

545
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: transfer portal. They come in and they just run their mouth,

546
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: run their mouth, run their mouth in the nearest megaphone,

547
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: and depending on which platform they're only gets amplified to

548
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: varying degrees, and all of a sudden, it's heard. Now,

549
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: it's heard, And that's not something we could change. Whether

550
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: you listen to it and whether you acknowledge it and

551
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: interact with it, that is what you can change. And

552
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Speaker 1: I don't know when this happened. It wasn't always this way,

553
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Speaker 1: but for some reason as of late, a lot more

554
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Speaker 1: of us, a lot more of you, guys. And I'm

555
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Speaker 1: not necessarily going to put myself in this crowd because

556
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Speaker 1: I really don't fall victim to this, but a lot

557
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: of us do. You started to care, and you started

558
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Speaker 1: to find that I don't really feel fulfilled until I've

559
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: tried to validate myself to that crowd. That crowd could

560
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: not care less about you validating yourself because the intentions

561
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: are not pure to begin with. You really think that

562
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: a lot of times you're in an argument with someone

563
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: and if you can just prove to them that you

564
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: have logic based conclusions that you can walk your points

565
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: through to, and you can just prove to them that

566
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Speaker 1: you have the best interest of the sport at heart,

567
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden you're gonna arrive at some

568
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: common ground and at the very worst, it'll be shake hands,

569
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: agree to disagree. That's not their end game. That's not

570
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: their endgame at all. It's why when we talk about

571
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Speaker 1: the expansion of the playoff, I made it a point.

572
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Speaker 1: I spent the entire a segment of a Late Kick

573
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Speaker 1: Live recently trying to explain, guys, there are not two camps.

574
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Speaker 1: Here there are three camps. Okay, You've got Camp A

575
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Speaker 1: where I reside, and that's the keep it like it

576
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: is right now crowd. And then you got Camp B

577
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: where some of you guys reside, which is I think

578
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: college football would be better with an expanded playoff, but

579
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Speaker 1: that's not where it ends. There's a third crowd that

580
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: also wants to expand, but they're not like the second crowd.

581
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Speaker 1: The second crowd loves college football. They just disagree with

582
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: me me on what would be best for the sport.

583
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Speaker 1: I can live with that. I can live with you guys.

584
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: The third crowd over here, they never set out with

585
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: their intentions being centered around what's best for the sport.

586
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: They're self serving. Whether they are TV executives, are commissioners,

587
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: or administrators or bureaucrats, they're looking out for them, and

588
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: they're looking out for whichever brand it is out there

589
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: other than college football that they represent. And they try

590
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: and trick you and assume you're ignorant into believing that

591
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: they are a good actor in the grand scheme of things.

592
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: They are acting in the best interest of the sport

593
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: where they always talk about the fan. This is the

594
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: clear giveaway when they're telling you what's best for you,

595
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: and when they're telling you that your experience is at

596
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: the forefront of everything they're trying to do, that's the tell.

597
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't even talk like that, and I am looking

598
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: out for what's best for college football in my mind,

599
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: But when they're talking like that, that's the tell. Anyway,

600
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: I made that point the other day because of the

601
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Speaker 1: point I'm making right now. Those folks don't deserve to

602
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: have their opinions acknowledged equal to ours because this is

603
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: our sport. It's not their sport. It never has been.

604
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: And it used to be that that crowd would start

605
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: talking and amongst ourselves over here at the college football campfire.

606
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: We'd look in we'd say, whatever, did you just hit mute?

607
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: And you'd move along. You didn't care. You never cared

608
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: that someone said college football is not as good as

609
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. That's fine, man, Billy, that's cool. Go watch

610
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: your Sunday game. We may watch it too, But we

611
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: love this Saturday game for what it is. Doesn't always

612
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: have to parallel what the Sunday game looks like. In fact,

613
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: we love this Saturday sport in some cases because it

614
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: doesn't look exactly like the Sunday game. And then I

615
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: don't know where it happened. I don't know where we

616
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 1: fell off the bike. Hopefully we can get up and

617
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, scrape the knee off, and we can move

618
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: on about our business. Somewhere along the way, too many

619
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Speaker 1: people in our community really started carrying what casuals and

620
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: tourists thought about their opinion. That is what I miss

621
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Speaker 1: I missed the days where no one really thought like

622
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: that in the college football unity. This seems like as

623
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: good a time as any to remind you that there's

624
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: something I have to do with you every week, and

625
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: it's this. I sincerely appreciate you sitting through that. You

626
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: know as well as I do. I try and tee

627
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: it up as mysteriously as possible every week. I think

628
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: I telegraph that one a little bit. But at the

629
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Speaker 1: end of the day, we understand there are bills to

630
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: be paid around here. That's taken care of. We are

631
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Speaker 1: back to business, Nathan. Next up, Nathan asked, in an

632
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Speaker 1: ideal world, should playoff games be played on campuses or

633
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Speaker 1: at bowl game sites. Well, the answer here, Nathan is clear,

634
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: and we're not going to live in a realistic world.

635
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 1: Just you and I, just us, just us listeners and

636
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: me sitting here behind this microphone. Let's go down the

637
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: more idealistic road for a second. Don't let anyone tell

638
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: you what is and isn't possible. Because all Nathan said

639
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: is should they be played on campus versus a bowl site? Well? Yes, clearly,

640
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: even me, even the guy who doesn't want to span

641
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: the playoff the playoff that we do have, I'd love

642
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Speaker 1: for those semi final games to be on campus sites.

643
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: That would be phenomenal. Now the pushback here, even though

644
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: I told you not to acknowledge it, we know what

645
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: the pushback is. The pushback is, well, you certainly can't

646
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: have the playoff infrastructure if you don't have the bulls

647
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: signing off on it. And that's true. Yes, I know,

648
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: it's not as easy as someone magically snapping their fingers

649
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Georgia is playing a semi

650
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: final game in Athens instead of Arlington, Texas. But again,

651
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: we're going to live in an idealistic situation for just

652
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: a second. Where would we like to see it? We

653
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: would like to see it in home campus environments. And

654
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: you know who else would both crowds, you know what

655
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: we were just talking for a second ago, if you're

656
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: listening to the full podcast, we were just talking a

657
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: second ago about how there's three crowds really in college

658
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: football playoff talk. There is the pro expansion crowd, there's

659
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: the anti expansion crowd, and there's the third bureaucratic crowd

660
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: over here who just pretends like they have the best

661
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: interesting sport in mind, but they're really serving some other interest.

662
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: The first two crowds, whether you're pro playoff expansion or

663
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: anti playoff expansion, all of us, virtually all of us

664
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Speaker 1: agree that we would love to see the playoff games

665
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: we do have on an on campus setting. Take the

666
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: national title game to the NFL venue if you need to,

667
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: But an on campus setting is a perfect, just a

668
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: serene environment for a college football playoffs semifinal game. That

669
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: third crowd over there gives their hand away again when

670
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: they push back on this, and they push back and

671
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: they say, no, no, no, no, no no, no. We need to

672
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: we need to have it at the Bowl venue. We

673
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: need to have it in Glendale, or we need to

674
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: have it in Arlington, or we need to have it

675
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: in Miami. We need to have it in Indianapolis. And

676
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: the reason is because and then you just lean in

677
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: because you wait, are they really going to say it?

678
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: Are they really about to tell us it's what's best

679
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: for college football? And sure enough they do. They tell you, Hey, look,

680
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: I know you're from Clemson, South Carolina and your opponent

681
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: is from Eugene, Oregon. But it's best for the sport

682
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: if you guys are meeting in New Orleans, Louisiana in

683
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: a semi final game on New Year's Eve. No, it's not. No,

684
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: it's not. It's best for New Orleans. I love New Orleans.

685
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: New Orleans. To me, it's my favorite host city, even

686
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 1: above some of the outdoor places out west. It's my

687
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: favorite host city for the college football National Championship. So

688
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm certainly not knocking New Orleans, and I love the

689
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: title game being in New Orleans. It is not in

690
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: the best interest to college football to have semi final

691
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: games or playoff games at those bowl venues. It's not

692
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: whether that's the way it has to be set up

693
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: for business purposes or not, it's not. So. Since I

694
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Speaker 1: told you we're living in an idealistic world. For just

695
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: a second, I was thinking about this. Now, this is

696
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: pure daydream land that we're about to go in. But

697
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: you've probably played this game before. You've probably asked yourself,

698
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: if I were a billionaire, what would I do with

699
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: all that money. I've been watching the news lately and

700
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: some of these Russian billionaires are having to move their

701
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: yachts around, their planes around so that they don't get

702
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: seized by the federal government. I shed many tears for

703
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: those Russian oligarchs, but I was thinking to myself, I'm

704
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 1: not Russian, but maybe I'll be a billionaire one day.

705
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: What would I do with that money. I'd probably buy

706
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: two or three new packs of white and blue T shirts.

707
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: Some of you been asking, by the way, why the

708
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: blue T shirt when we're doing the extra pod. Well,

709
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: it's just that I've got a different T shirt for

710
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: different formats. White indicates kind of like tiger Woods, White

711
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: indicates late kick live, Blue indicates late kick Extra. Anyway,

712
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 1: I probably buy some new T shirts and then, however

713
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: much money was left over out of the billions of

714
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: dollars after I bought new T shirts, What I would

715
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: want to do with that money is I would want

716
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: to go to all the playoff committee. I would want

717
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: to go to the Bowl cities, and I would want

718
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: to say how much is it going to take? I

719
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: want to be an angel investor in college football. I

720
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: want to save the sport. I want to put on

721
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: a cape and it's got a CFB on the cape

722
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: and I want to swoop in and I want to

723
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: save the sport. My people need me, and really what

724
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: they need is home playoff games. So how do we

725
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 1: make it happen? Because right now you're telling me, Nope,

726
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: you cannot have home playoff games. There's too much financial

727
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: interest in going to these neutral site games. Well, guess what,

728
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: your boys a billionaire now. So I have a check

729
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: and I'm ready to write big numbers on these checks

730
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: for each of you. How much does your city need

731
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: to give away this Bowl game? How much revenue is

732
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: it really going to bring in? And then I'm going

733
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: to call up some other billionaire budies of mine in

734
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: case I don't have enough money for all this, And

735
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: I'm just going to use my hundreds of millions of

736
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: dollars to buy out these games from these neutral site venues.

737
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: And I'm going to then grant whether it be Chapel

738
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: Hill or Tuscaloosa or Austin or Los Angeles, wherever the

739
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: playoff game should be. I'm going to put the games

740
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: on those campuses. A lot of you daydream about all

741
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: sorts of things. That is what I daydream about. I

742
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: had a night dream the other day that Colin got

743
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: me put in prison, which I will not share publicly,

744
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: but I've already expressed the centement to him privately that

745
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate it. But as far as daydreaming goes,

746
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: all I ever think about is if I'm ever a billionaire,

747
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: what can I use that money for? And it always

748
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: has something to do with either charity or college football,

749
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: and to me, those are one in the same. Let's

750
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: move on. Who got deep there? Really philosophical? Got really deep?

751
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: Several more questions, and keep in mind, I'm going to

752
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: at the very end today, I'm going to talk about

753
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: something that's very private, but I don't think it needs

754
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: to be, and so I'm going to share with you

755
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: guys what my contract situation is. So we'll get to that,

756
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: and we'll get to it if they remind me in

757
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: my ear here, I'm going to put a big C

758
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: on the piece of paper front me see, and that

759
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: stands for contract and copyright. In the meantime, Judson is

760
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: up next. Judson said, when is late Kick discount code

761
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: for Academy Outdoor and Sports and going to be a thing?

762
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: And it sounded like nonsense. So here's what he said.

763
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: I just jumbled the sentence. When are we going to

764
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: have a discount code? When are you going to be

765
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: able to go to Academy Sports and Outdoors or Academy

766
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: dot com and type in late Kick or type in

767
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: last name paid for twenty five percent off? My answer

768
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: is I think that's coming. But my answer as I

769
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: cannot speak for Academy, so let me let me pump

770
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: the banks there for just a second. I think there

771
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: is going to come a day, probably in the next

772
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: contract that we sign with Academy. I feel very good

773
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: about that. Being on the horizon will probably have some

774
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: kind of way that you can be motivated to include

775
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: the show in your purchase. Like right now, some of

776
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: you have just been buying from Academy and then you

777
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: snap a picture of the receipt and you post it

778
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Speaker 1: on social media. They love that stuff, Boy do they

779
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: love it. Imagine having a brand and imagine buying advertising

780
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: or buying a full naming right sponsorship on a show

781
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: most of the time. You guys listen to podcast all

782
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: the time, you watch TV all the time. Most of

783
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Speaker 1: the time. What you would have is you would either

784
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Speaker 1: have their logo on the set that's called product placement,

785
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: or you would have someone do this very contrived, sanitized

786
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Speaker 1: ad read where they just they read off a piece

787
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 1: of paper and then they move on. Well, we don't

788
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: do it that way with Academy. In fact, I told Academy,

789
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: I want to do the ad reads personalized. I don't

790
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: even want you to send me copy. They said, okay,

791
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: And so I've done that. Well, what it's done is

792
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: it's created a very personal bond between our audience and

793
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: our primary sponsor, Academy, to the point where you guys

794
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: have felt kind of kind of an ownership when you

795
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: go to the store. Now, imagine being Academy, and imagine

796
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: spending the money that you've spent with us to have

797
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: your name associated with late Kick, and then imagine the

798
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: disproportionate return on investment it gets them when you guys

799
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: actually have taken ownership in the idea that Academy is

800
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Speaker 1: with us, because they are and you have and so

801
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: I say that to say, they are very motivated to

802
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Speaker 1: continue the relationship with us. We're very motivated to have them.

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00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's out of the realm of

804
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Speaker 1: possibility at all that we have a discount code coming

805
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: up with them one day, or at the very least

806
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Speaker 1: a promo code. I don't know. I've never run a

807
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Speaker 1: store before, but I mean there's something we can work out.

808
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: So stay tuned is all I can tell you on

809
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: that right now. That's our official statement is stay tuned.

810
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: Let's move on and let's hit Dirt and Sprague, a

811
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: shit that I appear on regularly in the Pacific Northwest.

812
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: Dirt and Sprague asks a controversial question here over under

813
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: two and a half years until a pac twelve team

814
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: is in the playoff, pate state p One's that is

815
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: insider media industry terminology. There at the very end, all

816
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Speaker 1: of you guys are my p ones, though every one

817
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: of you's a p one in my book. You know,

818
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: Coach Boone told Coach Yost you're a Hall of Famer

819
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: in my book. You guys are p ones in my book.

820
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: So remember the Titans references aside. What they said is

821
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Speaker 1: how long is it going to be till the PAC

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Speaker 1: twelve is in the playoff. They gave me two and

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Speaker 1: a half years, and I say under, So to be clear,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that either in twenty twenty two or twenty

825
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: twenty three, a PAC twelve team is going to make

826
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Speaker 1: the playoff. They don't have to win a game, they

827
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: just have to make the playoff. And to me, that

828
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Speaker 1: means I'm reserving USC, Oregon, Utah. Who else do we

829
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: think could pop out there? Those are the three main ones.

830
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: I think over the next two years combined one of

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00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: those teams teams is going to have a playoff spot.

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Speaker 1: So I'm saying under, it's been over. It's been a

833
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: few years now. I think the last team was I

834
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: want to say it was Washington. But I'm looking at

835
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Speaker 1: some odds right now. If you're watching the video on YouTube,

836
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: you can see the odds. So Jesse has put the

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Speaker 1: top twelve odds here according to Caesar Sportsbook, to win

838
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two National Championship. This is not to

839
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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, to win the whole thing. USC has

840
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: i think the seventh longest odds to win the title

841
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Speaker 1: this upcoming year, and Oregon has the tenth longest odds,

842
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: so out of the odds to win at all, to

843
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Speaker 1: pack twelve teams from the top ten, that is, it's

844
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Speaker 1: more than some other conferences I'm looking at here. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to call any names out, but if we

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Speaker 1: were to do the odds of just making the playoff,

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00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna see Utah pop up there. You're gonna see

848
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Speaker 1: USC higher, You're gonna see Oregon higher. And look, it's

849
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Speaker 1: also it's a very workable schedule. If you get an

850
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Speaker 1: above average, really good team out there any given year,

851
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: you could probably even afford a loss if you finish strong,

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00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: if you win the conference championship game and you don't

853
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: have a bunch of undefeateds out there, which hardly ever happens.

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00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: It's always everyone's disaster fear scenario. It never pops out

855
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, I think it's gonna be under two years.

856
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: I think the Pac twelves do. I think they're going

857
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: to get themselves a playoff team in the next two years.

858
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: And it wouldn't shock me if it were this year.

859
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: You know what, wouldn't surprise me. This is not a prediction,

860
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: so polease do not say otherwise, it wouldn't surprise me

861
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: if Dan Lanning and his staff went into Oregon and

862
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: figured out Ty Thompson is ready to start for us

863
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: at quarterback, and they took all that talent that Mario

864
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: Christobaul and his staff had accumulated there, and they ended

865
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: up winning the PAC twelve this year, and they ended

866
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: up locking down a playoff spot. I mean, that wouldn't

867
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: shock me now, I think about what that would say

868
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: about Dan Lanning and his staff, but that notwithstanding, I

869
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: would win my bet here. So I'm taking the under.

870
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: I think most of you would disagree with me. I'm

871
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: trying to read the audience. I'm feeling you guys out. Yeah,

872
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: I think most of you would take the over. I

873
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: don't think you believe that the PAC twelve is going

874
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: to lock up a spot within the next two seasons.

875
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to counter you. Though. We seldom disagree, but

876
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: this is one of them. I'm gonna go under. We

877
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: move along. I want to make sure I have something

878
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 1: pulled up on my monitor here. Caleb is next. Caleb says,

879
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: what is your mount rushmore of a type of college

880
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: football fan? It could be any type of fan. The

881
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: funnier the better. This is a great question and I

882
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: do have four of them for you, but this, more

883
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: so than ever before, is where I'm probably gonna take

884
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: this question. I'm probably gonna put it on Twitter tomorrow

885
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: because I think we could get some all time like

886
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame level responses from you guys. Think about

887
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: your Mount Rushmore. Jesse had to remind me how many

888
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: presidents we have on Mount Rushmore, and I still really

889
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: was not able to fill this fully out. But I'm

890
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: going to leave some room for you to submit some

891
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: possible answers that maybe even better than the ones I have.

892
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: I got a few fans that I want to point

893
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: out to you, though. The first fan on the college

894
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: football fan type Mount Rushmore is the they hate Us crowd,

895
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: and by they, I mean anyone you know. I've been

896
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: talking about USC lately. I've been going back and forth

897
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: with our USC message board. I have said just random

898
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: things about USC. Someone asked me on this podcast actually recently,

899
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: someone asked me would you buy stock in the future

900
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: of Miami or USC? And I wavered so much. It

901
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: was like fifty one forty nine either way. I said,

902
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: you can't go wrong either way, and I picked Miami

903
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: because I said, I really like South Florida talent. I mean,

904
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: some of my friends over on the USC board took

905
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: that to me, and I just bashed their program. I'm

906
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: anti USC, even though I have blatantly pointed out I

907
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: am pro USC, I am actively rooting for USC, I

908
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: am biased in favor of USC's in the best interest

909
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: of the show. I don't know what else to tell you.

910
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: They took that to me, and I'm hating them anyway.

911
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: That is my first type of Mount Rushmore College type

912
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: is the type that believes anything that's ever said that

913
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: is anything less than glowing and praiseworthy about the program

914
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: is constitution as they hate US, and there's always an agenda,

915
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: and usually it sounds like this, ESPN hates US or

916
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: CBS hates US or twenty four to seven Sports hates

917
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: US or Fox hates US, and ESPN is not a person,

918
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: you know, CBS is not a person. There are individuals

919
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: who work for these companies, who represent those companies. But

920
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: like if Barrett Saliz says something that doesn't automatically mean,

921
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: I believe it, and vice versa. If Kirk Kirbstreet says

922
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: something that doesn't automatically mean Rhyesce Davis agrees with it.

923
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: So I've never understood what that means. ESPN hates US

924
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: or CBS hates US. There's this feeling, and I know

925
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: it exists because I used to traffic in these sorts

926
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: of conspiracies. There's always this conspiracy out there that there

927
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: are these internal memos sent out and there are these

928
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: talking these company talking points that we're supposed to abide by.

929
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: It's never happened. I've never been told a single thing

930
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: to say on my show. I've never been told a

931
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: single direction to take this. I just go wherever I

932
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: feel like going. Credit the company for allowing that dangerous concept,

933
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: allowing someone like me to do that. But it doesn't exist.

934
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: It's foolishness anyway. That's the first one. The second one

935
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: is the two weeks fan and that is usually when

936
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: something bad is on the horizon. And this usually is

937
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: when your opponent, when your rival maybe investigated, or you know,

938
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: there may be internal strife. There's always something around the corner,

939
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: and it's always two weeks around the corner. Give it

940
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: two weeks. Within the next two weeks, it's always two weeks.

941
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is magical about that fourteen

942
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: day stretch, but it's always two weeks from now. That's

943
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: the second kind of fan, third kind of fan. You

944
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: know him and love him. Stars don't matter, Stars are irrelevant.

945
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: This only lasts until your team starts recruiting well, and

946
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: then you're taking off work both signing days and you

947
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: are living and dying with the commitment of every mid

948
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: level four star out there. But until that day, if

949
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: you're ranked twenty or below in the twenty four to

950
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: seven sports team recruiting rankings, stars don't matter. It's all

951
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: about development. What's in here? You know how many times

952
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: if I heard someone say, can't measure what's in here? Well,

953
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: no you can't, but I will tell you this. You

954
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: can have everything it takes in here and get trucked

955
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 1: by someone who has it out here. You know, Because

956
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: here's the misconception. When people say that, The connotation is

957
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: there aren't five star caliber players out there who also

958
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: have it in here. Is the unfortunate aspect for some

959
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: kids who don't have immense God given physical potential is

960
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: there are some kids who do have immense God given

961
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: physical potential who also have immense heart and high level character.

962
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: And when you have combinations like that, sometimes you're just

963
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: not good enough. I mean I never played high level

964
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: college football. I was not going to be good enough,

965
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: never know, maybe a break here and there. I wasn't

966
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: going to be good enough. Most of you aren't. Nine

967
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: to nine percent of you aren't. That's nothing to be

968
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: sad about. So the stars don't matter, crowd, I mean,

969
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: mountains of data would suggest otherwise, but it doesn't matter

970
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: because they always have that example. Every time the super

971
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: Bowl is on, you like claw, you can set your

972
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: watch to it. There's going to be a tweet from

973
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: someone and it lists the players who are playing for

974
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: the super Bowl who were two stars or lower in

975
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: high school, which proves stars don't matter. And then you

976
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: can counter it with okay, but here were the five

977
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: stars from that cycle. Here were the four stars from

978
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: that cycle. A five star was eight times more likely

979
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: to be drafted, a four star was six times more

980
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: likely to be doesn't matter at that point. It is

981
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: like Lloyd Christmas fingers in the ears, la la la la, lah,

982
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: can't hear you? And the last which probably should have

983
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: been my first college football that fan is the and

984
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: it's not closed fan. This is a pure crisis in

985
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: our sport. Right now, anytime, and it's really in any sport,

986
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: there is a debate out there that pits one possibility

987
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: against another possibility, and they're very comparable in nature. You're

988
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: going to have an army of people who come in

989
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: and say so and so, and it's not closed. Like

990
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: I used to hear this growing up all the time.

991
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: I grew up right on the border of Alabama and Georgia. Therefore,

992
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: you were constantly inundated with Herschel versus bo Bo versus Herschel.

993
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: And clearly, these are two of the most freak athletes

994
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: of all time. They're two of the most transcendent great

995
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: college athletes of all time. They both went on to

996
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: play in pro football at a high level. And yet

997
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: I kid you, not from Hamilton, Georgia, to Auburn, Alabama,

998
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 1: to Noonan to Carrollton up to Atlanta. You walk into

999
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: any establishment, any din or any gas station and you

1000
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: start a bow versus Herschel debate, you are going to

1001
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: have twenty folks on both sides of the fence say, oh, Herschel,

1002
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: it's not close. Oh bo, it's not even close. Uh, newsflash,

1003
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: it's close. Those are two of the most incredible athletes

1004
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: God ever put on the planet. I can assure you

1005
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: it's close. These kinds of folks would watch the Super

1006
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: Bowl coin flip and that'd say, oh, tails, it's not close.

1007
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: Literal fifty to fifty. The calculator can tell you that.

1008
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: The calculator could slap you in the face and say,

1009
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: we ran the numbers on this inside the calculator. It's

1010
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty shot here. It's literally as close

1011
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: as anything on Earth could get. Nah. Nah, heads, it's

1012
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: not even close. Heads. Uh. So those are my four

1013
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: types of fans. I don't know how much I filled

1014
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: out my Mount Rushmore there. I'd be interested, though. There

1015
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: are several other of those fans out there. I want

1016
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: to hear what you have to say about this. I'm

1017
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: probably gonna put this on Twitter because this could go.

1018
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: This could go throughout March and April and May. This

1019
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: is true evergreen potential. This is just never ending. This

1020
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: is our never ending story that fan. But in the meantime,

1021
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: I want you to keep a lookout for the end.

1022
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: It's not close, fan, They're everywhere, they are amongst us.

1023
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: Hopefully one or two of you are listening and you

1024
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: have seen the era of your ways and you realize,

1025
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: you know, when someone says strawberry or vanilla, you know

1026
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: someone says heads or tails, it's not and it's not close.

1027
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: There are legitimate arguments to be made either way, and

1028
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,479
Speaker 1: you can go one way or another. Please just don't

1029
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: tackle the oh and it's not close. It's almost like

1030
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 1: a defense mechanism. Don't do that. Don't be that guy. Girl.

1031
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: We're up to like nine percent female listenership now, I'm

1032
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: very proud of that. We started at three, so we

1033
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: are growing leaps and bounds. We are growing in the

1034
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: female listener demographic. Uh, let's continue here. What else do

1035
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: we have to talk about? Well, we got this one. Bryce.

1036
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: Bryce a palooza. To put a finer point on it, asks,

1037
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: if Mario Christball cannot turn around the you, is it

1038
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: a lost cause. No, No, it's if you've got a

1039
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: major power five program in a talent rich environment, it's

1040
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: never a lost cause. I don't care how many times

1041
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: you swing and miss. You just keep swinging. You just

1042
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: keep going for it. Right now, there's reason to feel

1043
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: very confident if you're a Miami fan. But look, nothing's

1044
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: a slam dunk, nothing is for sure. So it could

1045
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: be that Mario Christball comes in and the new wear

1046
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: is off and for whatever reason it may be. What

1047
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: if it doesn't pan out and in twenty twenty five

1048
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: or twenty twenty six they make a move, No, what

1049
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: do you What's the only alternative is to keep fighting.

1050
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: You don't get to wave the white flat. You don't

1051
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: ever get to do that, And it would be foolish

1052
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: even if you could do it, for Miami to do it.

1053
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: This is a major power fife program in a powerfif

1054
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: conference in South Florida. Like the talent is having to

1055
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: leave South Florida to go elsewhere. You're just trying to

1056
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: get him to stay home. The right coach is out there, Okay,

1057
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: even if it's not Morio Christoval, I think it is.

1058
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: But even if it's not him, the right coach is

1059
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: going to be out there. So no, it's never a

1060
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: lost cause you never stop trying. It's the same way

1061
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: with Florida. It's the same way with FSU. It's the

1062
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: same way with any of like ten or eleven teams

1063
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: in the SEC Texas, Texas A and m USC UCLA.

1064
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: Just you keep swinging. Clemson, South Carolina, Ohio State and Michigan,

1065
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: you just keep swinging. So certainly at Miami. No, No,

1066
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: it's never a lost cause. Never, I mean, unless you're

1067
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: just in the pit of NCAA despair, unless they've implemented

1068
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: the death penalty, then it may be all she wrote.

1069
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: But this side of SMU, that's not really happening. Plus,

1070
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: Miami has already come out of some pretty dark NCAA

1071
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: times in the recent past, and they're, you know, no

1072
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: worse for the wear now cosmetically at least. So no,

1073
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: it's it's never gonna be lost cause. There was that

1074
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: the last regular question we had. I think it was okay, So, yeah,

1075
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: that's the last regular question we had. So I wanted

1076
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: to get to one more here because I got this

1077
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: on Twitter yesterday. I'm scrolling down to find it. One

1078
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: of you asked, yeah, here it is. So one of

1079
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: you asked what one of you said I saw on

1080
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: some message boards I'm a member on that your contract

1081
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: is about to end and you'll be leaving. Is that true?

1082
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: And if so, what happens to late Kick Here was

1083
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: my response. My response was, my contract is up this spring.

1084
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: Beyond that, nothing is true because I have not agreed

1085
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: to anything Late Kick will be fine no matter what.

1086
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: Let me start on the second part there, literally, no

1087
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: matter what I mean, Late Kick is our So wherever

1088
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: I am, if I'm doing this out of someone's attic,

1089
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: five months from now, we'll have late Kid Lake Kick's

1090
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. But as for the first part, you know,

1091
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people are very private about this and

1092
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: it's their business. And so if your contract is your

1093
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: business and you don't want to talk about it publicly,

1094
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: that's fine. But I remember, before I got into the

1095
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: media industry, I was always fascinated by this because I

1096
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: had only ever worked as a typical employee. I had

1097
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: worked in climate control and heating and era. I had

1098
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: worked in the sample department the fabric warehouse. Well, that's

1099
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: just where you punch in at eight and you punch

1100
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: out at five and you go home, and you know

1101
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: they pay you a nominal weekly wage. Well, in this world,

1102
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: you signed contracts and so it's a little bit different. Well,

1103
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: I remember, being on the outside of this world. I

1104
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: always wondered, how does that work. I wonder what's going

1105
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: on with so and so. I wonder what so and

1106
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: so's contract says. Well, look, I'm in that world now,

1107
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: I have one of those contracts. But you know what,

1108
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't really care about being all that private about it.

1109
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a private person, but this I don't

1110
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,959
Speaker 1: mind sharing this with you guys. Up to a certain point,

1111
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: I can't, you know, I can't violate confidentiality. But I'll

1112
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: tell you my contract's up at the end of May.

1113
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: With CBS. It's been great here. So I'm not speaking

1114
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: in finality by any sense of the word. But so

1115
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: my contract's up at the end of May. And apparently

1116
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: there were some rumors floating around that some other things

1117
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: that happened. Well, I can tell you confidently firsthand that's

1118
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: not true. Nothing is finalized or even remotely finalized. Nothing

1119
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: is agreed to in principle. There's no verbal there's no handshake.

1120
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: There's nothing like that with anyone our company included. I've

1121
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: talked to CBS. I continue to have very productive conversations

1122
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: with CBS. There will be plenty of offers because you

1123
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: guys have grown the show to the point where it

1124
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: gets a whole lot of attention. So we've got the

1125
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: best of all worlds right now in a sense that

1126
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: there are a lot of options out there. But I

1127
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: greatly appreciate what we've been able to do here. CBS

1128
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: and twenty four to seven took a huge risk bringing

1129
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: us on and giving us this platform. I walked in

1130
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: here my first date at this company. I met Colin

1131
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: and we went over at that time Brentwood Studio. We

1132
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: went over to the Brentwood Studio and we just started

1133
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: putting together a show and no one ever interfered. Me

1134
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 1: and Colin built the ground and we framed it up,

1135
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: and we blocked the shots, and we formatted it the

1136
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: way we wanted to, and we put it on air

1137
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: the way no one ever interfered with it. So I

1138
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: certainly have no ill will, bad blood, nothing like that.

1139
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: Quite the opposite here. But the reason I wanted to

1140
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: be clear about this is because I don't know where

1141
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: exactly that stuff comes from. But in the absence of

1142
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: me speaking up, that kind of thing confester and permeate

1143
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: out there. So very clearly, let me state it again. Yeah,

1144
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: my contract's coming up. There is nothing that has been

1145
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: decided from any angle on any side. There are going

1146
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: to be a lot of options here, including remaining right

1147
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: here where we are, so we'll work through all that.

1148
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: You don't have to try and google anything. You don't

1149
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: have to try and search it out. When there is

1150
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: something to know, i'll let you know. In the meantime,

1151
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: we're just going to hang out and keep doing the

1152
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: show exactly how we do it right now. Appreciate you

1153
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: guys making it all possible, though. Oh I will never

1154
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: ever forget that. A lot of people tell you, hey,

1155
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: don't forget where you came from. Well, you don't have

1156
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: to worry about me ever, forget where I come from.

1157
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: I can absolutely slammed up promise you that. But as

1158
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: for now, that's about all I got for you today.

1159
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: Make sure that you're giving five star reviews to the pod.

1160
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: That's all we really ask here. I appreciate you guys

1161
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: being tuned in taking us wherever it is you take

1162
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: us in the meantime, For producer Jordan, for producer Jesse,

1163
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: for director Colin, and everyone else in between. I'm Josh Bait.

1164
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 1: Have yourself the great rest of your day, and God

1165
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: bless you