1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: today's best minds. 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: And Christin nom is alert and recovering after a trip 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: to the hospital for. 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: An allergic reaction. 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: We have such a great show for you today the 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: Al Franken Shows. 9 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Al Franken stops by. 10 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: To talk about trump ISM's cruelty affecting the way the 11 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: Senate operates. Then we'll talk to Colonel Briefram about Trump's 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: trans military ban and how it's affecting the military's confidence and. 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: The people who serve our country. But first the news'. 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: Somali the Supreme Court. I'm here to tell you it's 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 3: not woke. They have banned gender affirming care for transgender 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: youth in this case over at Tennessee law. 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so about half of the states have similar laws 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: on the books. These are laws that ban kids from 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: having hormone therapy and other treatments. The question is is 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: Tennessee simply regulating the practice of medicine or discriminating on 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: the basis of sex. Now, if it was discriminating on 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: the basis of sex, that would mean it was a 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: higher legal bar. I want to add again that and 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: this was a six' to three, ruling which means all 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: The conservatives ruled against and the liberals ruled. For we 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: still don't have an equal rights, amendment so technically discriminating 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: on the basis of sex is something that at least 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: theoretically not enshrined in our constitution. Anyway roberts rights in the, 29 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: majority of, course and the case carries with it the 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: weight of fear scientific and policy debates about this, safety, 31 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: efficiency and property of medical treatments in an evolving. Field 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: questions regarding the law's policy are appropriate left to the, 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: people their executive, representatives and the democratic. Process this Is 34 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: roberts pretending that he's not making a ruling when he's 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: really made. Ruling It's robert's, court, Right he's not the swing, 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: boat but he happens to be the Chief. JUSTICE i 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: am not surprised by this, ruling BUT i think it's 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 2: worth remembering. 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: This is a very very very very far right. 40 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: Court. 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: Okay there are Six conservatives and three liberals on this. 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 2: Court and there's the Stolen scullio seat, right Which mitch 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: mcconald's stole For. Trump there is THE rbg seat Which 44 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: Donald trump And mitch mcconald's stole From Joe. Biden so 45 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: this should not be a surprise because this court is so. 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: Conservative but it's worth understanding who's going to be hurt by. 47 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 2: This children who feel they're in the wrong, body, right 48 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: kids who are already suffering so much are going to 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: be hurt by, This and who is going to be 50 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: helped by. This republicans who want to Use trant's children 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: as a wedge. 52 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: Issue it's really. 53 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 3: Despicable, So, MOLLY i feel like you, know each day 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 3: you wake, up you get, dressed you get a, coffee 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 3: you see another poorer economic. Indicator that's really. Sig we're 56 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: in a lot of trouble. Today we see the housing 57 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: market slump is getting a lot. 58 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: Worse, YEAH i mean look this. Again here we Are 59 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: trump does all of. 60 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: These trump's been in office Since, january and during that 61 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: period he's trying to enact tax. Cuts it's still THE 62 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: bbb wildly, unpopular still sort of trying to make its 63 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: way through The. Senate but what he has done is 64 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: he's engaged in trade. War and this trade war has 65 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: been largely. Inflationary we'll talk about that, later but what 66 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: it also has done besides being, inflationary is has gotten 67 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: a lot of people. Nervous and when people get, nervous 68 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: they don't make big financial. Purchases and so what we 69 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: see here is builders broke around on home construction In 70 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 2: may at the slowest pace in five. Years, right we're 71 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: seeing less, building less, bye less. Turnover and what that 72 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: means is when people don't buy, houses they don't do 73 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: you know that money to realtors doesn't go there's tax 74 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: incentives when people sell. Houses all of this stuff means 75 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: that there'll be less money in the, economy less money for. 76 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: Building and by the, way one of the reasons why 77 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: they're not, building why are they not Building? 78 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: Jesse they don't build back? Better, no there's no economic. Confidence, 79 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: well and they don't know how much steal's going to, cost, 80 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: right they don't. 81 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 3: Know there's actually crazy headlines about that today. 82 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: Too you can't start a project if you don't know 83 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: how much things are going to. Cost it's. 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: True And i've talked to other small business owners who 85 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: have to get things From. China they just literally can't 86 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: project their, profits so they can't hire fun. Stuff speaking 87 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: of other fun, stuff you know what doesn't inspire confidence 88 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: When trump just sits around and picks a fight With 89 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: california all, day and now he's, saying no more money 90 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: for your high speed, rail which admittedly a lot of people, 91 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: said really they were building. 92 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: That, yeah we didn't even know that there was a 93 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: high speed. 94 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: Rail i'm going to technically, SAY i knew that they 95 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: kind of funded, IT i didn't think they were actually 96 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 3: doing anything with. 97 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: It, yeah these large democratic projects that don't ultimately seem 98 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: to be going. Anywhere we should have high speed. Rail 99 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: it is crazy that we don't have high speed. Rail 100 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: and the fact that this that we've got millions is 101 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: this looks like. Billions i'm going to read you a. 102 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: Line the rail line aimed. 103 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: At going From San francisco To Los angeles has gotten 104 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: six point nine billion dollars in federal money over the 105 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: last fifteen. Years this is not. GOOD i think that 106 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: there is something fucking sketchy, here and it's very annoying and, 107 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: infuriating AND i do not like, it not one little. 108 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 3: Bit, So, molly there's very rarely times WHERE i, go you, 109 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 3: know if that, happened that's WHAT i would really get 110 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 3: all my buddy and pack it up and Leave Dald 111 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: trump suggested that maybe he should run THE. 112 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: Fed, yeah few things would he be better at than 113 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: running THE. Fed this is, truppy but you, know and 114 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: we've heard him say stuff like. This he, says MAYBE 115 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: i should go to THE. Fed trump, said AM i 116 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: allowed to appoint myself at THE? FED i do a 117 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: much better job than these. People NOW i want you 118 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: all to come with. Me back to his business. Career 119 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: this is one of the very few people who managed 120 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: to lose money In New York city real. Estate so 121 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: the fact that he wants to now run THE. Fed, look, 122 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: MAN i can't tell you how Much trump two point zero. 123 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: Sucks real talk, Here, jesse just for a, minute, please 124 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: should you think this would? Suck BECAUSE i think it 125 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: sucks more THAN i thought it would. 126 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: SUCK i think it's more like an apple and arge. 127 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: Thing it's just like the flavors of rot of the 128 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: fruit are a lot, tasting a lot different THAN i 129 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 3: thought they. 130 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: Would but it's so fucking. BAD i, mean AND i 131 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: just need to tell. You he's obviously not going to 132 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: point himself to THE. Fed this is him just doing 133 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: his trolley. Thing but the fact that he's even having 134 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: these conversations when my man is so cooked is just 135 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: everything you need to. Know Al franken is a former 136 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: senator and the host Of The Al Franken. Show welcome 137 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: back To Fast. 138 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 5: Politics well thanks thanks for having. 139 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: Me it's funny because we were texting yesterday AND i was, 140 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: like can we can. 141 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: Will you come on the? Pod And you're, like, well 142 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: what do you want to talk? About it is just every, 143 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: day you. 144 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: Know In trump one point, zero it was like there 145 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: were so many pieces written about Like, Trump Donald trump assignment. 146 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: Editor you know that we would be sort of in, 147 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: this you, know you'd sort of try to catch the. 148 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: Stories it used to be sort of like there was. 149 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: A novelty to. It NOW i find myself just crushed 150 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: by the. 151 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 5: NEWS i find it difficult. Too it, is especially if 152 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 5: you have to cover. 153 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: It and it's like part of why he, does you, 154 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: know it's distraction from distraction from distraction from distraction what he? 155 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 5: Does, yeah, okay well right now we got the immigration 156 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 5: stuff and we got a thing In israel. 157 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: Happening, Yes so when we were, TEXTING i, SAID i, 158 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: said what can we talk? 159 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: About regime? 160 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: Change it struck me as the one thing that everyone 161 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: agreed both on the left and the. Right in the 162 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: twenty four cycle was no more golf, wars and now 163 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: it looks like we're on the precipice of yet another golf. 164 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 5: War well hopefully. Not BUT i am for regime change In, 165 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 5: iran and that probably is the only way you get. 166 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 5: It but IF i was living In, Iran i'd be 167 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 5: reading for regime. Change but you, know the best thing 168 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 5: that can, HAPPEN i. GUESS i guess is that they 169 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 5: the J cpoa gets. Renewed you, Know trump is now 170 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 5: threatening to join israel, side right AND i think he 171 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 5: will if there If iran doesn't cowto in a couple of. 172 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: Days you have served with these. People you know what The, 173 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: senate what's happening in The senate right? 174 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 5: Now i'm not SURE i know what's happening in The 175 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 5: senate right, now but going. 176 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: Well you sort of have a sense of how this all. 177 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: Works AND i have a theory of the case that 178 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: we don't have enough that we The american people don't 179 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: have enough of a sense of how these decisions are, 180 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: made how the legislature. Works so right now it's being 181 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: sort of written about like this is All Donald trump's 182 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: choice is this All Donald trump's? 183 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: Choice and if, so. 184 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 5: Why, WELL i think The republicans have basically said whatever you, want, 185 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 5: sir and SO i think it is his. Choice so 186 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 5: he's a very powerful. President he gets to decide what 187 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 5: whether we go to war or. Not that's WHAT i. 188 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 5: THINK i, MEAN i don't think That Lindsay, graham who 189 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 5: is a big hawk like On, ukraine has any influence on. 190 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: Him we're seeing visuals right OF ice going after. People in, 191 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: fact there was a recent video OF ice schoons taking 192 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: a guy who was a translator In. Afghanistan our last 193 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: Failed Middle Eastern, way which happened like eighteen months, AGO 194 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: i mean not even eighteen months, ago maybe two years, 195 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: ago was the you know it basically was. 196 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 5: There they tried to take a translator who worked FOR, 197 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 5: us who saved our lives, yea In. 198 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: Afghanistan there's a video of AN ice guy's trying to 199 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: arrest a and he, says But i'm a was a, 200 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: translator you. KNOW i, mean we're still dealing with the 201 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: wreckage of the most Recent but he must. 202 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 5: Be completely, LEGAL i would. 203 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: THINK i mean a lot of these videos we see 204 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: these people are actually, legal but are being detained BY. 205 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: ICE i, mean for, Example Brad, lander he. 206 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 5: Was handcuffed, too, right. 207 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah detained for many hours. 208 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: Yesterday what's the play here besides Helping, democrats what's the 209 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: play Being ice just arresting random. 210 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 5: People, Well i'm not sure it's even Helping democrats that. 211 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 5: MUCH i MEAN i think that it's AS i look 212 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 5: look at the, polling people are split on, this and 213 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 5: it splits the long party. Lines So i'm not sure 214 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 5: it helps, us even as egregious as it all. 215 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:40,359 Speaker 2: IS i think yesterday to Watch Governor hokeel go into 216 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 2: And lander actually gave an interview last night On Chris 217 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: hayes where you talked about how they let him out 218 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: When hokeel, Came LIKE i do think people DON'T i, 219 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: mean the idea that they're just arresting. Electeds, now you 220 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: can be a low frequency, voter but you don't want 221 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: like once they start arresting. PEOPLE i, mean it doesn't 222 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: even look like you, know you could say, OKAY i 223 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: don't work in a, field but you're not going to be, Like, 224 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: Okay i'm not this second highest elected official In New, 225 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: york so this will never happen. 226 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 5: Or a centator from you, know the senior centator From. 227 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: California, California, yeah which was. RIDICULOUS i mean it is 228 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: a sea. 229 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: Change to have videos of electeds being arrested like that 230 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: is a profound. 231 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 5: Sea can two in how many, days you, know four 232 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 5: days or something like. That, yeah, yeah it is a sea. 233 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 5: Change it's but ubly interested to see if we see another. 234 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 5: One is it. 235 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: Like are we sleep? WALKING i, mean obviously this is. 236 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: AUTHORITARIANISM i MEAN i don't think there's any you, know 237 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: when they start arresting politicians who are from the other. 238 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: PARTY i, mean isn't this like what we see in 239 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: countries that we. STUDY i, mean isn't that what this? 240 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 5: Is, WELL i don't. KNOW i mean, this you, know 241 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 5: you can say honest mistake in both. CASES i mean 242 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 5: it's hard to buy in the case of the, senator 243 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 5: but you, KNOW i mean he starts getting pushed. OUT 244 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 5: i don't know what she saw and what she. Heard 245 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 5: it was absolutely. Egregious BUT i don't know if this 246 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 5: is going to be a. 247 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: TREND i really, don't, RIGHT i wonder why we have 248 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: another police force that wears? 249 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 5: Masks, well why do they wear a? MASK i, mean 250 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 5: these are the ones that are apprehending what they say 251 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 5: are undocumented. People, yes it's. 252 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: Like a kind of like. There you, know it's funny 253 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: because you think about. 254 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 5: Seen beforeforce in our. COUNTRY i don't remember this at. 255 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 2: All there have been times In american life where we've, 256 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: had you, know AN fb that was out of, control 257 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: like the j AND gi THAT fbi was out of. 258 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: Control. Right we've had times when. 259 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: Law, enforcement the federal government has done really sketchy. 260 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,479 Speaker 1: STUFF i, mean change. 261 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 5: On various people Like Martin Luther king. 262 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: Citizens, Yeah Martin Luther, King that's WHAT i was thinking. 263 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: About but this is sort of more. Blatant and, then you, 264 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: know one of the things THAT i wonder about so 265 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: much Is trump defenders will say he doesn't really mean, 266 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: that it's not really this, right and then he'll co 267 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: and be, like, NO i really want to Detain. Democrats 268 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: like one of my favorite things he did this he 269 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: said they should Arrest remember they should arrest governor knew. 270 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: Something, yes because he's a very bad. 271 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 5: Governor, yeah well that's the, charge, right you, know very bad. 272 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 5: Governor and then but THEN i would go to you, 273 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 5: know a judge who would be the the district court, 274 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: judge and he would reverse it and then it would 275 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 5: did appeal, right go work up to the spring court 276 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 5: and there'd be on that. ONE i don't, know a 277 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 5: six to three. 278 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: VOTE i want to talk to you About minnesota because 279 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: you are A. Minnesotan is that? RIGHT i? 280 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: Am this has been a, horrible horrible week For. 281 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: Minnesota you had a state representative Named Melissa, hortman Who 282 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: i'm sure you. 283 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: KNOW i know. 284 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 5: HER i know she's a, great an amazing. PERSON i 285 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 5: campaigned around the state with. Her she was a great, 286 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 5: speaker she got an incredible amount. Done she was a 287 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 5: no nonsense, speaker but also just a person with incredible 288 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 5: heart and. Humor and couldn't talk about a better person 289 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 5: Than Melissa. Hortman and it is an absolute tragedy that 290 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 5: she and her husband and The hoffmans don't understand how they. 291 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 5: RECOVERED i heard they had nine shots in them each 292 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 5: or something like. That, yeah well it was accomplished an incredible. 293 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 5: Amount in two thousand and, three they had they had a. 294 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 5: Trifecta they passed an amazing amount of great, stuff like 295 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 5: free college for people who can't afford. It it's going 296 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 5: to be breakfast and lunch for all kids In. Minnesota every. Kid, 297 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 5: yeah you know that kind of. Thing one hundred percent 298 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 5: renewable energy by twenty and. Forty it was her leadership 299 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 5: and the governor and that made it able to go 300 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 5: through if you knew. Her this is just an incredible 301 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 5: law of personal. Loss it's hard to believe that it's. 302 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 5: Happened her kids wrote. Something did you see? 303 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: This? 304 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 5: No, well her kids wrote something and they said what 305 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 5: you could do to honor their, Parents and this is 306 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 5: just part of what they. Wrote but they, said plant a. 307 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 5: Tree had a, dog and their, dog Their Golden, retriever 308 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 5: was killed. Too the guy killed their. 309 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 2: Dog it was being trained as a service dog to blind. 310 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: People so they killed the service. 311 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: DOG i killed the service. 312 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 5: Dog visit a local park and make use of their, 313 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 5: amenities especially a bike. Trail bake, something read For mark 314 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 5: that's their. Dad take From melissa and share it with with. 315 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 5: Someone try a new hobby and enjoy learning. Something stand 316 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 5: for what you, believe especially at that thing is justice and. 317 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 5: Peace that's her. 318 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: Kids so they got murdered because she was successful at 319 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: passing things that help. 320 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: People. 321 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, Absolutely and The Mike lee joke or whatever that 322 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 5: was supposed to. Be this is what happens When marxists 323 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 5: don't get their. Way it was an attempt to say 324 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 5: that they were killed from the, left which is just. 325 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 5: EVIL i can't. COULDN'T i can't believe that this guy 326 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 5: voted For his roommate said he voted For. Trump he, 327 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 5: was you, know anti. Abortion And Mike lee is trying 328 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 5: to do a one a joke in the wake of this, 329 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 5: thing and then two something to try to misdirect people 330 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 5: is who the killer. 331 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: Was So Tina smith takes him, aside and we don't 332 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 2: know what she, says but we see a photo of 333 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: her just what looks like really talking to. Him he 334 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: does not, apologize because this is. Magas he can't, apologize 335 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: but he does delete the tweets and then he starts 336 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 2: running away from camera crew when they ask, him what 337 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: do you think this? 338 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: IS i, Mean Mike lee is not a, Podcaster he's a. 339 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: SENATOR i, mean what do you, think like you know 340 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: a lot of these. 341 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 4: PEOPLE i Know. 342 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 5: MIKE i Know, mike and he thinks of himself was a. 343 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 5: Whit he really screwed up, HERE i, mean he really screwed. 344 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: Up and. 345 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 5: That's WHY i did WHAT i saw that footage of 346 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 5: him not talking to the, reporter AND i don't blame. 347 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 5: Them what he did was so embarrassing and this is 348 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 5: just like and completely in service of an evil. Intent 349 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 5: SO i just DON'T i don't get, it you, know 350 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 5: is not. 351 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: Stupid one of the things THAT i was struck by 352 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: is when he deleted the. Tweets even though he didn't 353 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 2: apologize and he didn't say, anything and he didn't do 354 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: what he really should have, done there is a sense 355 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: that he definitely understood this was a loser for, him 356 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: right that being that these two people being murdered in 357 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 2: their beds and then these other people being almost, murdered 358 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: that maybe this was in fact the bridge too. Far 359 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: we have lived with political violence now since we are 360 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: in this new. NORMAL i, mean this is something we 361 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: had in the sixties and it's sort of back. NOW 362 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: i want so badly to be one of the people 363 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: who helped shut this, down who helped stop this political. 364 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: Violence AND i just. Wonder you've been in so many 365 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: worlds like comedy and, government AND i wonder what you 366 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: think the sort of the way to do it. 367 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 5: IS i WISH i had an answer for. You there 368 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 5: doesn't seem to be. ONE i don't know how to 369 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 5: stop this. Violence these are people who ARE i, think 370 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 5: have gone over the edge in most. CASES i don't 371 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 5: know why the guy who shot At trump did, that 372 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 5: what was going on with that with? Him and this 373 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 5: IS i don't know how you stop THESE i WISH i. 374 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 5: DID i WISH i had had a good answer for. 375 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: YOU i think that a lot of people In minnesota 376 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: understand that this is so dangerous and scary that it 377 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: needs to be talked about as what it, is, right which, 378 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 2: is you, know this incredible red line that has been 379 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: crossed and needs to not be crossed. Again you, Know 380 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: minnesota has it's just a state where there's a lot of, 381 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: Religion there's a lot of you, know it's just a 382 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: lot Of. 383 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 5: This guy evidently was a bit of a religious. 384 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: Freak, YEAH i just wonder like how you feel about 385 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: this and how and just how you've first reacted to, 386 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: this and just you, know how politics has shifted and 387 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: what your take on this. 388 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 5: Is my take Is i'm sure what the take of 389 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 5: most people, is which is this shit is. Happening AND 390 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 5: i do Blame trump to a degree for basically saying 391 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 5: that the violence is, okay and he did that by 392 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 5: pardoning all the people who were In january, sixth and 393 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 5: there are people who died because Of january sixth And 394 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 5: Capital police right who died and then who committed suicide 395 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 5: because what happened to. Them AND i think that the 396 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 5: question isn't you, know Does trump deserve some responsibility? HERE 397 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 5: i think it's, yes it's just to what extent right 398 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: of an atmosphere of. 399 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: Violence Colonel breenfram is An american military, officer astronautical, engineer 400 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: and transgender rights. Activist welcome to Vast, Politics Colonel, Fram 401 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: thank you so much for having me. 402 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: Because you work at THE. DoD give us your. 403 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 4: Disclaimer, Yeah i'm joining you today in my personal, capacity 404 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 4: and my views do not necessarily reflect those of The 405 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 4: department Of defense or The United states. 406 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: Government right, now tell me what your title, is what you, 407 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: do and a little bit about. 408 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 4: That so THOUGH i have been played based on administrative 409 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 4: leave at this point pending, SEPARATION i remain a active 410 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 4: duty colonel in The United States Space, force and in 411 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 4: my final, ASSIGNMENT i was The director Of Requirements integration 412 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 4: for The Space. Force what that means is my team 413 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 4: AND i were the ones that defined the capabilities that 414 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: we would need, five, ten twenty years in the future 415 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 4: to ensure that we stay ahead of our adversaries and 416 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 4: should conflict extend into, space that we were prepared to. 417 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: Win space force is the hardest of the branches to get. 418 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: Into so you obviously had a pretty impressive military. CAREER 419 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: i would love you to just talk about. That how 420 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: you got into the, military how you got. Here you're 421 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: A i don't want to get this, wrong but you're 422 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: technically a rocket. Scientist explain to us what you do 423 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 2: and just sort of how you got. 424 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 4: Here, sure so my career at in the three minute. 425 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 4: NUTSHELL i am an astronautical engineer by, education or colloquially 426 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 4: a rocket. SCIENTIST i had no intention of joining the 427 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: military WHEN i grew, up THOUGH i did want to 428 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 4: be an aerospace. ENGINEER i had been inspired By Star. 429 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 4: TREK i wanted to Be Jordie LaForge and make the 430 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: warp engines go help humanity expand into the. Stars BUT 431 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 4: i graduated in two thousand and one and AS i 432 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: was looking for, jobs we were, attacked and that was 433 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 4: one of the few moments in my life where everything 434 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: changed in a, heartbeat AND i wanted to give. BACK 435 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 4: i wanted to be part of something greater than myself 436 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 4: and defend the freedoms and the opportunities That i'd been 437 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: given AND i enjoyed to make sure they were there 438 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 4: for future. Generations despite, THAT i knew there was something 439 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 4: THAT i was going to have to hide about myself 440 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,239 Speaker 4: in order to. Serve and that's a burden on an. 441 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 4: Individual you can be good at your, job you can 442 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 4: be great at your, job but you can never be 443 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: your best if you're paying that mental tax to protect your. 444 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: Identity BUT i had an amazing career working on technology 445 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 4: element programs a number of. SATELLITES i had two opportunities 446 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 4: to take technology right from the laboratory to the battlefield 447 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: early in my career WHEN i deployed To iraq to 448 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 4: do counter ied, detection and then later in my career 449 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: WHEN i did counter drone. Work and that's in addition 450 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 4: to all the cool space Programs i've worked, on like missile, 451 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: warning launch, vehicles communications. Intelligence it's been an incredible, ride 452 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: and to have ended up in The Space force was 453 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 4: like a dream come. True when they finally let the engineers, 454 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: in it felt like a marriage. Proposal WHEN i was 455 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 4: asked to join AND i was, like, yes, yes a thousand. Times, 456 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 4: yes this is WHERE i. 457 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: BELONG i want to point this out BECAUSE i feel 458 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: like civil. Servants you're not a civil servant, obviously but 459 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: people work for the government have been so disparaged by 460 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: THE doge. Crew but technically you could make a lot 461 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,239 Speaker 2: more money just working in like, plastics, RIGHT i, mean 462 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: in the private. 463 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: Sector can you explain to us why you have a 464 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: skill set that's very in. 465 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: Demand, yeah a lot of members of the military can 466 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 4: make far more on the. Outside but there is something 467 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 4: that keeps us. In it is that element of, service 468 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 4: that element of. Character what do we care about as 469 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 4: well as the bonds we've formed with the people around, 470 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 4: us who we've served with for, decades that matter so 471 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 4: deeply to mission accomplishment and what we believe the military 472 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 4: provides for this. Country but we've been given education, clearances 473 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 4: specialized skills that are incredibly valuable on the, outside and 474 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: you're right that many of us could make, two three 475 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 4: or more times as much should we choose to leave 476 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 4: and serve in the private. Sector but that's not what 477 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: keeps us. Serving we are not motivated by those. Things 478 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: we have an oath that we swore to care about 479 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 4: and defend the ideals embedded in The, constitution and that 480 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 4: matters to. 481 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: Us The trump administration has gone to war with trans. 482 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: People is really all they care about is being obsessed 483 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: with trans. People they think it's a political winner for 484 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: them or. Whatever who even knows what the thinking is. 485 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 2: There for whatever, reason they are extremely mad at trans. 486 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: People you are, trans you are in the. Military this 487 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: is a group that they are obsessed. With so tell 488 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: us how they've targeted. 489 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 4: You, well there was an executive order soon after this 490 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 4: administration came in Called Prioritizing Military excellence And, readiness and 491 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 4: that executive order classified us as, undisciplined dishonorable liars who 492 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 4: lack the humility required for military. Service and while the 493 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 4: attack on our character was certainly, THERE i have to 494 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 4: laugh a little bit about, that particularly when you say 495 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 4: you lack the humility. REQUIRED i was not aware that 496 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: was a key piece of the military. Ethos AND i 497 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: do ask have they ever met a, pilot because in 498 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 4: our military we are filled with, pilots and the pilots 499 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 4: are going to tell you not only that they're a 500 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 4: pilot in the first two minutes you talk with, them 501 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: but that they are the greatest, pilot and that is 502 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 4: kind of necessary for those of us who are going 503 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 4: to be on the front, lines who are going to 504 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: launch themselves into the air in this advanced equipment that 505 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 4: they are at the controls. Of you have to have 506 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: a little bit of that, confidence sometimes even bordering on, 507 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 4: arrogance that you can do this really hard. Thing and 508 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 4: that's what trans people have been asked to do in the, 509 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 4: military do the hard. Things and if trans people can 510 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 4: thrive in that kind of, environment doing the most demanding 511 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 4: missions our nation has to, offer it is proof that 512 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 4: we belong. Everywhere and we have had nearly a decade 513 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: now of trans people serving openly accomplishing their wartime, missions 514 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: deployed around the world and here at home all the, 515 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 4: time and there is no evidence whatsoever that we have 516 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 4: failed at any of. That we meet or exceed standards. 517 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 4: Consistently AND i think. 518 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: It's important to mention that to be in The Space, 519 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: FORCE i, mean how many people are even in The Space, 520 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: FORCE i, mean just talk us through how rigorous a 521 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: process that. 522 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: Is, yeah we have about ten thousand people in uniform 523 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 4: in The Space, force so we are, tiny and we 524 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 4: have a lot of people that would love to serve 525 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 4: in this highly, technical highly capable, service and so have 526 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 4: had the luxury of having far more people want to 527 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: be in The Space force than we have spots. Available 528 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: so for my career, field for the engineers that wanted 529 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 4: to transfer into The Space force at the, beginning they 530 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 4: held a board and were allowed to be very selective 531 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 4: with who was brought over into the. Service and so 532 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 4: here may be a bit of my touch lack of 533 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 4: humility in THAT i think we are incredibly talented, people 534 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: and the folks THAT i have had the honor of 535 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 4: serving with in The Space force are the most incredible 536 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 4: PEOPLE i have ever. Met they are so, talented so, 537 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 4: smart so welcoming the fact that we've built this truly 538 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 4: twenty first century military culture that lets everyone be their 539 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 4: best and get after that mission we have to secure 540 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 4: our nation's interests in from and to space is such 541 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: a joy to be a part of because we are 542 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 4: doing incredible things with limited. Resources Incredibly, WELL i. 543 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: Want you explain where you are right, now What trump 544 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: has done to trand service. 545 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: Members, yeah we are all being forced. Out these are 546 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: thousands and thousands of service members who were told you 547 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: either had to voluntarily identify yourself and request separation or, 548 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 4: retirement or you would enter this involuntary phase where there 549 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 4: were all sorts of unknowns and could be very punitive 550 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 4: actions taken against. You BUT i want to make it 551 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 4: very clear there is no such thing as a voluntary 552 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 4: choice to leave the. Service here we are being forced. 553 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 4: Out if there was a, choice we would continue to 554 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 4: serve because there have been these incredible investments IN. Us 555 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: we are the service members who not only are technical, 556 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 4: experts but we are training and developing future generations of. 557 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 4: Leaders so the impact is not just on, us it 558 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 4: is also on the units where all of a, sudden 559 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 4: there's going to be this hole where an incredibly, capable 560 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 4: qualified service member used to, be and the people around 561 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 4: see that, hole they have to work harder to fill 562 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: that because there's not a replacement that walks in off 563 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 4: the street and fills in where someone who is an 564 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 4: eighteen year senior non commissioned officer used to. Be so 565 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 4: what do they think will they want to continue? Serving 566 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 4: what about the people that we would have been trained 567 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 4: and developing to take our places and now we're just, 568 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 4: gone or the people considering military service where thirty percent 569 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 4: Of GEN z adults identify as member of THE lgbtq, 570 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 4: community will they think the military is an option for. 571 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 4: Them so this is a wide ranging, impact not just on, 572 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: us but on so many, others and will have important 573 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 4: implications to national security both today but those ripples grow 574 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 4: as we go further into the future without our. 575 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: Presence it's set up in a way to make it 576 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: as unpleasant and painful as possible for trans members of the. 577 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: Military can you explain sort of the nuances of. 578 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 4: That the policy basically goes after us on. Character we 579 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 4: are basically being told that we are not, wanted we 580 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 4: should not exist in the public. Sphere WHAT i get 581 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 4: from that isn't just the question of, why because there's 582 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 4: no evidence to back any of the claim being made about, 583 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 4: us and you have at this point had multiple judges 584 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: rule that it is in fact our service record that 585 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 4: is EXHIBIT a as to why these claims are nothing but. 586 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 4: Animous BUT i think it also speaks to the incredible 587 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 4: resiliency of our transgender service members who have had these 588 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: things thrown at them for years and have continued to 589 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 4: lace up their boots and accomplish the. Mission but now 590 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 4: we are finally being ordered to take off those boots 591 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 4: and set them aside for the final. Time and that 592 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 4: hurts because this is our. Identity we do not walk 593 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 4: into a room and Say i'm trans or lead with 594 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 4: any of. That we walk into the room with our. 595 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 4: Uniform we lead with the accolades and the experiences and 596 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 4: the characteristics about us that that uniform. Represents that is 597 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 4: what people, see and we have been told that cannot 598 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 4: be you, anymore and that hurts because we. 599 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: CARE i wonder if you could explain to us what 600 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: it's like right now when you talk to other. People 601 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: you guys are being led by someone who has not 602 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: a ton of military. Service we've seen that there's been 603 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: a lot of like the way that this administration has fired, 604 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 2: people it seems as if the people they fired have 605 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 2: all been black women or, trends and it strikes me 606 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 2: they transmit a lot that this is about. Readiness the 607 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: head of THE DoD does a lot of. PUSHUPS i 608 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: wonder if you could talk to us about how this 609 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: feels to be there when this is, happening and a 610 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: little bit about what you've. 611 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 4: See, well it feels like there's a focus on short 612 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 4: term actions that be considered as wins in some way 613 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 4: by putting others, down, perhaps or focusing on things that 614 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 4: are not connected to any sort of long term. Strategy 615 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 4: this relentless focus on war fighting and how do we 616 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 4: fight better than anyone. Else in my, mind it's more 617 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 4: about focusing on how do we not go to, war 618 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 4: how do we be prepared in a, way how do 619 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 4: we have the friends and alliances that matter in a 620 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 4: way that no one would ever want to fight, us 621 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 4: that we would never have to get to that. Point 622 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 4: so that's one of the things THAT i wish we were, 623 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 4: doing is figuring out how do we lead in a 624 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 4: way that others are going to want to follow, us 625 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 4: that we're going to want to come together in some 626 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 4: sort of shared purpose and ensure that we never have to, 627 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 4: fight because it is not about being the, biggest baddest 628 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 4: bully on the. Block it's about having so many friends 629 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 4: that you're. Untouchable and so that feeling that we're changing 630 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 4: our focus can be really challenging to deal. With and 631 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 4: also there's a bit of a culture of silence that has, 632 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 4: emerged and that's really frightening as, well because our job 633 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 4: is to provide best military, advice and if the advice 634 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 4: or the only thing we can say is, yes that's 635 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 4: problematic as. Well and we have historically been able to 636 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 4: tap into multiple perspectives and build amazing solutions because we're 637 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 4: listening to. Everyone we're hearing from people of different, backgrounds different, 638 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 4: experiences and integrating that into the solution that we. Need 639 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 4: and if we are telling certain voices that you're not, 640 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 4: welcome that your perspective is not, warranted then we have a. 641 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: Problem the military figured out that if you were, diverse 642 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 2: you could get people to work together. Better AND i 643 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 2: wonder if you could explain why The trump administration's anti 644 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 2: diversity push is ACTUALLY i just it seems like an 645 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 2: anathema to what the military is. Now. 646 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 4: WELL i can't explain why this focus on destruction of 647 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 4: the diversity that exists within our. Military WHAT i can 648 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 4: point to is the incredible record of diversity and the 649 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 4: value of inclusion in the. Military we can go all 650 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 4: the way back to The revolution and the first person 651 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 4: killed Was Christmas, addicts An African american of native descent as, 652 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 4: well someone who may not have been allowed in, uniform 653 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: but truly kicked off what became The American. Revolution you 654 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 4: had people brought over From europe who were. Gay baron Von, 655 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 4: steuben who trained THE Us army and whose Field manual 656 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 4: was basically in place for the first fifty years of the. 657 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 4: Country he was the one that Whipped washington's troops in 658 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 4: The shape And Valley. Forge in The Civil, war you 659 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 4: have a record of over there were four hundred people 660 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 4: who were assigned female at birth who put on The 661 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 4: union colors and. Fought so the evidence exists to the 662 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 4: very beginning of when the nation, called people, answered and 663 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 4: In World War one we tapped into The navajo code. 664 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 4: Talkers despite fifty years of, oppression they called and served 665 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 4: and gave us incredible value because of their unbreakable code 666 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 4: just from using their. Language they would go on to 667 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 4: serve again In World War. Two or you saw the 668 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 4: example of The Tuskegee airmen black officers who were spat 669 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 4: upon and refused entry into The Officers, club yet were 670 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 4: the greatest thing A b seventeen pilot could ever see 671 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 4: on their. Wing because of their skill meant that those 672 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 4: pilots had a much greater chance of returning. Home so 673 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 4: we have seen example after example of groups being integrated 674 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 4: into the military and despite the barrier in their, way 675 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 4: they added. Value and then when we took steps After 676 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 4: World War two to formally start removing some of those 677 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 4: barriers with executive orders beginning Like Truman's order To integrate The, 678 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 4: military which took six years to finally desegregate the last 679 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 4: army in, it we saw them thrive even. More but each, 680 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 4: time whether it was With African americans with lesbian's, gaze 681 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 4: bisexuals with, women or with women in, combat we saw 682 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 4: these arguments that they were somehow incapable or unwilling to. 683 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 4: Serve and those are the same arguments being recycled against 684 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 4: trans people today with the inclusion again of an argument 685 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 4: that is tried and, true that we are a disruption 686 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 4: to unit. Cohesion AND i want to offer two short 687 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 4: stories that kind of proved that false in my, case 688 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 4: AND i think are indicative of where our military is. 689 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 4: At WHEN i came out in twenty, sixteen on the 690 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 4: day that transpan ended for the first, TIME i had 691 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 4: an email that went out to my, colleagues and when 692 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 4: The secretary Of defense finished making the, ANNOUNCEMENT i hit 693 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 4: send on that email and THEN i ran away BECAUSE 694 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 4: i didn't know how my life was going to. CHANGE 695 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 4: i hopped on the elliptical. MACHINE i went nowhere faster 696 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 4: THAN i had ever gone anywhere in my. Life but 697 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 4: EVENTUALLY i walked back to my, office sat, down and 698 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 4: my colleagues walked over to me one by one and, 699 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 4: said it's an honor to serve with. You AND i 700 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 4: was absolutely. Floored that was the unit cohesion impact because 701 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 4: we had worked together and now they KNEW i could 702 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 4: be myself and rededicate myself to the mission and to 703 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 4: the relationships around. Us and at the very end of my, 704 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 4: career AS i KNEW i was going to be placed 705 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 4: on administrative leave AND i would go to meeting after 706 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 4: meeting where it was going to be my last time. 707 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 4: THERE i had one WHERE i was the last person 708 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 4: called on in that, meeting AND i gave one work 709 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 4: related update and THEN i, SAID i will be departing. 710 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 4: Shortly this is my last. Meeting i'm not sure who 711 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 4: my replacement is going to be because this is an unplanned. 712 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 4: Departure and the senior officer next to me, said why 713 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 4: where are you? Going AND i had to explain THAT 714 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 4: i didn't meet this administration standards for military excellence and. 715 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 4: Readiness and though it took a, moment reality dawned on 716 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 4: the senior leaders in that, room generals and admirals and senior, 717 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 4: civilians and the scene repeated one by. One they walked 718 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 4: over to me and with now the tinged by the 719 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 4: sadness of past, tense, said it's been an honor to 720 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 4: serve with. You AND i walked out of the room 721 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 4: with tears in my. 722 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: Eyes thank, you thank, you thank, you thank you for joining, us. 723 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. 724 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 3: And a Moment. 725 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: Jesse, cannon my jug. 726 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 3: Fast you know WHAT i think of WHEN i think 727 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 3: of WHAT i would want my hypothetical children. Around, Yeah, 728 00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 3: tommy a gun that sprays more inaccurately so that they 729 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 3: could possibly get hit by. Crossfire which is Why texas 730 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 3: thinks it's probably a good idea that they make sought 731 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 3: off shotguns. 732 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 2: Legal the state is said to decriminize the ownership of 733 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 2: short barrel rifles and, shotguns never mind that it was 734 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: one of the guns used in the twenty Eighteen Santi bay. Shooting, 735 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: kman what this country needs are more, guns said no one. 736 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: Ever this state where if you're a woman and wants 737 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: to go to the, doctor they have some. Questions but 738 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 2: if you're a person who wants to own a, Firearm 739 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 2: go for, it. 740 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: Man this is where we. 741 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 2: Are we have just a complete fucking disaster putting more 742 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 2: guns into more hands in more sensitive. Places we need 743 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 2: to start arming the. Dogs every, man, woman AND k 744 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 2: nine needs to be. Armed they're arming the. 745 00:42:54,880 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: Dogs that's it for this episode Of Fast. Politics tune 746 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: in Every, Monday, Wednesday thursday And saturday to hear the 747 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: best minds and politics make sense of all this. 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