1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: All right, Rory back for another episode of Rory Maul 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: don't know Ball. We actlualely do not know ball. Maybe 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: a little bit. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 3: We're learning as this is going. 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: But this is this is why we have this platform 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: now to bring on some of our friends that absolutely 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: do no ball. And today we are joined by North 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: Babylon legend. You want to see Tall Hill alumni fifteen 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: year fifteen NBA ve You got to say put an 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: interest in fifteen because that's an incredible accomplishment to last 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: fifteen years in the NBA, three time world champion. We 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: are joined by New York's finance Danny Green. Can I 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: call you a green Ranger? 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: Of course? 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 4: Green Ranger definitely feel like into pause after you that. 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 4: I don't know what give you explanation of why it's pause. 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: It just feels like a Paul yeah, man. So Danny, 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: how you feeling, man, I'm feeling good. 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 5: I'm feeling good. I appreciate you'll having on the pod Man. 21 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 5: It's a true honor. I've never been at your dude, Like, 22 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 5: nobody ever recognized as North Babylon, say Long Island or 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 5: New York. But yeah, to hear North Babylon as it's 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 5: been a while, I said, I went to Saint Mary's 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 5: as well. But yeah, man from New York and people 26 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 5: don't really respect Long Island that much either. 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: They know one of my one of my guys, man 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: great trainer, Jerry Powell out there North Babylon. That'smile. That's 29 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: my guy JP man, one of the best, that's the best. 30 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: Probably him and Brick are probably the two best trainers 31 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: that I think are in the game right now. So 32 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: shout out to my man, Jerry Powell. 33 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 4: And shout out to Coasey Blackburn that no one would 34 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 4: know my friend that went to North Babylon High School. 35 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's that's random. 36 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: You might have been at Saint Mary's by the time 37 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 4: he was there. He's a year older than me, but 38 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 4: yes we are. We're both very familiar with North Babylon. 39 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 4: We've taken Long Island Railroad many of times to see 40 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 4: many of Long Island women more and more. 41 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: But he's gotten before. 42 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 5: Ice was my my first trainer, probably since I was 43 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 5: in like seventh eighth grade. 44 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's how far back. Yeah, me and Jerry go. 45 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, man's led and legendary. I mean, if you ever 46 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: had a chance to be in one of Jerry's workouts. 47 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: Man Like, it's not just the trainer's how he like 48 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: he talks to the to the. 49 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: Mental approach man, where he talks to you. Got to 50 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: be able to New York thing. He needs it. 51 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: He needs a show, he needs a Heck, he needs 52 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: cameras following him in the gyms at all time. But 53 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: how you feeling, Danny, How you've been? 54 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: Man, I've been great. Bro. 55 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 5: It's a it's an adjustment for most people retirement. For me, 56 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 5: it wasn't that that big of an adjustment because I 57 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 5: kind of started to have help around me. You guys me, 58 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 5: I'm Jeed Harrison. Transitioned me into the media side of it, 59 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 5: and you know. 60 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: Watching the game. 61 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 5: And I don't want to sound because I'm not an 62 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 5: old head, but you know, it's different. And when I 63 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 5: was in locker rooms working out, I once I didn't 64 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 5: feel that belonged, but I definitely felt older in the 65 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 5: space and it was changing. But yeah, I'm adjusting to 66 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 5: it fine. Man, Everything's going well. Doing some stuff with ESPN, 67 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 5: randomly tapping in with Fandul and Turner. The goal is 68 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 5: to network full time, but I also do some consulting 69 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 5: and scouting for teams, you know, tapping into different avenues 70 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 5: and different lanes and seeing what I like most. But 71 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 5: most importantly, I get a chance to spend more time 72 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 5: with my little one at the house. 73 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: As he's growing up. 74 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 5: He's only nineteen months, so I'm glad that I waited 75 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 5: to have kids until the end of my career so 76 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 5: I could have more time with them. 77 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: That's one thing I always talked about having friends that 78 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: play professional sports. I noticed that some of them do 79 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: struggle with retirement trying to figure out who they are, 80 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: because you know, athletes, for the most part, that took 81 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: over your entire lives from kids. All you know is basketball, training, 82 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: working out, playing, traveling. How tough has it been or 83 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: what was the biggest thing you learned during retirement that 84 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: nobody told you to look out for. 85 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the toughest thing for most guys, which 86 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 5: that I had some help with it is adjusting to 87 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 5: not having Like I said, for twenty years, twenty five years, 88 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 5: guys have been playing and traveling and to be kind 89 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 5: of stagnant or figure out how to not be stagnant 90 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 5: and adjusting to not having a routine because normally wake up, 91 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 5: you know exactly what you're doing. And obviously there's other 92 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 5: situations where guys checks aren't coming in the same so 93 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 5: they have to adjust, and some people don't have to. 94 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 5: But either way, you don't want it to be stagnant 95 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 5: and spending money without making money, you know, because you 96 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 5: have to live another forty fifty years god willing, maybe 97 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 5: even more so you kind of see that bigger picture. 98 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 5: Like them, I don't know if I can stretch this long, 99 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 5: or I don't know if I should be doing this 100 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 5: for this long. I don't know if it's going to 101 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 5: run out financially. But so some guys are putting pretty 102 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 5: good positions where they don't have to worry about financials, 103 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 5: but they still want to find a purpose, so finding 104 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 5: a purpose, finding a routine. Except for me, it was 105 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 5: just like, yo, I need to I want to know 106 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 5: my schedule. For them, I don't want to have to 107 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 5: like figure it out week to week, day to day 108 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 5: of what I'm doing. So when I say I want 109 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 5: to be with a network, it's like, all right, I 110 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 5: want to a schedule for the month. Let me know 111 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 5: what I'm doing when I'm working, when I have time 112 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 5: with the little one. So I think the hardest part 113 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 5: is that not having a routine and also not having 114 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 5: a space where you can be around you know, your boys, 115 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 5: your teammates, your locker room, the plane, all the travel 116 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 5: experiences with a group. That camaraderie is what guys missed 117 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 5: the most. So that's the biggest adjustment, is to not 118 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 5: having a group to be a part of or be 119 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 5: associated with, and then not having a routine that you 120 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 5: normally have had in the last twenty five years. 121 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: Does every athlete think they can be a media personality now? 122 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: No, a lot of them do. 123 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 5: So Listen, we talked about the pod before we start 124 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 5: a pod, and not everybody deserves a platform. 125 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: That's the fact. 126 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 5: Some guys out there with platforms, You're like, what the hell? 127 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: Anybody can get a platform now, so nobody who deserves 128 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 5: the platform. Now everybody can do media is challenging on 129 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 5: that side of it. It's not easy, and some guys 130 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 5: know that. Some guys know that their personality is not 131 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 5: built for talking on TV and they're not outgoing or 132 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 5: showing energy. You know, you see step and A. He's 133 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 5: yelling at the TV all the time, but he's good 134 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 5: at what he does. Because he he portrays is that 135 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 5: and it grabs the viewers attention within the first seven seconds. 136 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 5: You know, there's little things that you know, TV people know, 137 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 5: you know, people behind the scenes know, and guys that 138 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 5: do media know, and a lot of all players know 139 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 5: that they're not good in that space, but a. 140 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: Lot of them try, which is said I applauded them. 141 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 5: It's great man to see guys venture out and try 142 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 5: to have their own platforms and also try to do 143 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 5: different things after playing. But yes, not everybody can do it, 144 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 5: and not everybody thinks they can do it, but probably 145 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 5: more more so, more guys think they can do it. 146 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 5: It's just like like basketball players trying to be rappers 147 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 5: or rappers trying to be hoopers, you know what I'm saying. 148 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 5: So it goes hand in hand. 149 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: I was. I was impressed by Jamal. Jamal Crawt has 150 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: transitioned into analysts. I spent a lot of time around 151 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: Jamal when he was in New York. A good friend 152 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: of mine, Trevor Reza. They with teammates, so we spent 153 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: some time together. And seeing him transition into anless work 154 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: has been impressive. He's always been cool, laid back, but 155 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: I didn't realize how well spoken Jamal was until he 156 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 2: was on TV. He obviously knows the game. One of 157 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: my favorite players to watch. How is it watching a 158 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: lot of these guys that you probably were teammates of 159 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: and was, like Richard Jefferson, I was surprised how well 160 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: he does an analyst work. He was like in Jersey, 161 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: spent some time around him. He was a complete goofball, 162 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: And now to see him on TV doing and this 163 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: work he's doing, he's doing an amazing job. How is 164 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: it being teammates with some guys that you know on 165 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: a personal level and then seeing them transition into the 166 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: into these great analysts. 167 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 5: R J is still a goofball, absolutely, absolutely, even on 168 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 5: set behind camera he makes it fun though. Yeah, but 169 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 5: it's been impressive to see certain guys like them. 170 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know he could. 171 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 5: Do that, Like, I didn't know he had the even 172 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 5: like guys you may not see on the national level, 173 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 5: like Ryan Hollins is a guy who works for Houston Rockets, 174 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 5: and you know he didn't have an extensive career, but 175 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 5: he had a good crib. 176 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: But you see him. 177 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 5: You know, even Tristan when he had a break, came 178 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 5: out and It's like, yo, I didn't know he could 179 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 5: be so animated on TV. But r J has been great. 180 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 5: You know, Jalen Rose has been great. Jamal Crawford has 181 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 5: been great. Like you, guys get better speakers as they 182 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 5: get older because they can't was much physical. 183 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: So they have to be better communicators on the court. 184 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 5: You know, I've seen Jamal, you know he'd be He's 185 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 5: a great offensive score. Most communicators are defensive guys like 186 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 5: Draymond because they have to talk on defense. You know, 187 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 5: most guys that score the ball, they just go out 188 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 5: there and get buckets. They might talk shit, that's it, 189 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 5: but they don't have to communicate as much except for 190 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 5: give me a screen or get out the way. 191 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: You know. 192 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 5: So to see lou Will, Jamal Crawford like those guys 193 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 5: cross over and be in the space and be very 194 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 5: good at it is impressive man, And said, you tip 195 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 5: your hat off to guys because it's not easy. We 196 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 5: learn a lot about behind the scenes of how difficult 197 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 5: it is, how challenging it is. And you know, said 198 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 5: to see certain guys be able to adapt and adjust 199 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 5: to the space, You're like. 200 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: Man, it's pretty dope. I didn't think that you know, 201 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,119 Speaker 1: most of the guys. 202 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 5: A lot of people, the normal fans, look at basketball 203 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 5: players as guys that just only know how to play sports. 204 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 5: They don't see this as anything else. So to have 205 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 5: a personality, a be able to portray. And some guys 206 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 5: are really good basketball players, just not good at talking 207 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 5: the game either. And now you you gotta see them 208 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 5: all the time, like some of them just you know, hilarious. 209 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 5: You know, Chuck and Shacker hilarious on TV. They make 210 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 5: great TV. They can talk the game. And then some 211 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 5: guys that said that don't know how to articulate the 212 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 5: game and break it down, because you got to be 213 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 5: able to break it down to a viewer that does 214 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 5: not understand it, people. 215 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: That don't know ball. 216 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, so not everybody's good at doing that, man. And 217 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 5: I said, to see some of my peers and some 218 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 5: of my teammates OG's and even some guys behind me 219 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 5: do wile transition into that, it shows, like they said, 220 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 5: they had some other talents and qualities that I never 221 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 5: knew they had before they could play back, Like they 222 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 5: obviously had other aspirations or backup plans or things that 223 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 5: they had in place if they didn't make it in basketball. 224 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I love the fact that you know, ESPN 225 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: and these other news outlets are leaning more towards, you know, 226 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: grabbing players as they're into retirement and having them doing 227 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: this work because it does make sense to have guys 228 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: that they played at this level break down the game 229 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: and be able to talk to the casual fans like 230 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: Ory and myself about the game and show us the 231 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: nuance of it. But it is fun to see guys 232 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: like Draymond and you know, guys have their own platforms 233 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: where they get to say what they want to say 234 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: and break down the game that you know, the way 235 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: they like to do it. So the luck to you 236 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 2: on that. I know you've been doing your things and 237 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: you're pretty good at it, but you're a tall hill. 238 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 2: So y'all, y'all are pretty educated down there, and you see, man. 239 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 5: Got to get better. You know, I'm working to get better. 240 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Man. 241 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 5: We had some good some good examples that I got 242 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 5: a chance to watch. Rest in Peace. Stewart Scott was 243 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 5: a great one. Oh yeah, absolutely amazing legend. We got 244 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 5: a chance to watch Rick Fox, you know what IM saying. 245 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 5: We had we had a couple of guys that I 246 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 5: got a chance to watch. Kenny Smith has done amazing job. Yeah, 247 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 5: you know, vinces on there now doing some stuff. Shout 248 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 5: out to Vernage Haywood. We had a couple of guys 249 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 5: in place now and before me that I got a 250 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 5: chance to watch and look up to because I wasn't 251 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 5: I wasn't always the most talented guy bro. 252 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: So like I had to plan for if this ship 253 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: didn't work out. 254 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, So what I'm saying I went to school for 255 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 5: four years and I was like, all right, if I 256 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 5: don't play ball, I got to be able to do something. 257 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 5: And do I want to stay around the game? Do 258 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 5: you want to coach? And after playing it's like, you know, 259 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 5: coaching and stressful. You see coaches getting fired left and right. 260 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 5: That's a very unstable career. So it's like, I don't 261 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 5: know if I want to deal with that stresses, the 262 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 5: stresses of coaching when I'm done playing. So for me, 263 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 5: it was like you know what I'm gonna go into, 264 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 5: you know, commentating, you know, journalism or that type of space. 265 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 5: So I did communications as my major, and you know, 266 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 5: followed watching those guys most of the time. 267 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 4: You you mentioned there was some ballplayers that thought they 268 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: could rap you had a pretty pretty long career with 269 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 4: a couple of organizations. So who was the worst rapper 270 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: that you came across in the NBA. 271 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 5: Oh, I can't say the worst rap because I've actually 272 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 5: you can say from. 273 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: Duke, you can say bag he's from Duke. 274 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: I never heard him rap, so everybody. 275 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 5: I could probably put him that conversation. But I've been, 276 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 5: I've been. I've come across some guys that were pretty good, 277 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 5: that made good music, like and I started out with 278 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 5: Stephen Jackson. So when I was there, even and Tony, 279 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 5: I don't know. So if I can understand French, my 280 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 5: bill put him in that category. Tony rap, Tony Parker, 281 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 5: he was a rapper, he had an album, did. 282 00:11:59,320 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: A French album. 283 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 5: I never got a chance, but I seen him before 284 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 5: on stage. By the time I got there, he stopped rapping. 285 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 5: But Stephen Jackson was a good one. I know it 286 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 5: was teammates with Dame, but I chanced to watch it, 287 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 5: and I gotta said, Andre Drummond rapped. Like the chance 288 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 5: to listen to these guys music. Shaq was a rapper 289 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 5: once upon the time. 290 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: He was. He's probably the best rapper ball Yeah. 291 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: Damons, Shack are very talented. 292 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 5: But when I was in Memphis, man, we had a 293 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 5: couple of guys doing the mumble rap there. 294 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: It was. It was interesting. Man. 295 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 5: I want to say it on names, but I wouldn't 296 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 5: say they're terrible, but you know, they and they did 297 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 5: they did some good stuff and so like some of 298 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 5: the music, it may not have been sounded good. 299 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 300 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 5: You know, you know, so they had some and some 301 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 5: of them were young guys. So uh Junior Kenny Lofton Jr. 302 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: He's younger. 303 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 5: He plays in China now, but he was young coming 304 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 5: and he was like trying to get in the music. 305 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 5: So he's he's got some time to get better. 306 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was mean, he's in China. He got 307 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: to do a stand on the corner and he'll sell 308 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: rapping out there. He gets Kenny, did you. I'm surprised 309 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: he's not often get I'm surprised he didn't. 310 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 5: He was a young guy that was like, I'm like, okay, 311 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 5: you got the blue Face flow. 312 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 313 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: Like flow. 314 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 5: It was a one off beat flow and blue Face 315 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 5: made it famous. What I'm saying like, blue Face was 316 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 5: good at it. Shout out to him because we just 317 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: saw him. I was in the in the prisons, like 318 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago, and the month ago he 319 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 5: was in there. 320 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: I do the thing between the lines. So we go 321 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: hoop with the prisoners. 322 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 3: Yes, I saw some of the trailer stuff. 323 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was in there. Shout out to him. 324 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: Did you speak to Blue Face? 325 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we said it up. 326 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 5: You know, you know they everyone in there, they got 327 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 5: a story man, and it's not a great space for them. 328 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: It's like a miserable day. 329 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 5: And so we come and we give him, try to 330 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 5: get a day of freedom, poop with them, play some 331 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 5: music so they like, it's it's all right in here today, 332 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. 333 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: Appreciate coming through. 334 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 5: They they you know, they they show love and we 335 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 5: show love back. So it was it was a good day, 336 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 5: you know, to kick it with them. 337 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: At one point, I mean he's tall, Blue Faces. 338 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, they said he was a hooper. They said he 339 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 5: played football and he was an athlete. 340 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: But that day he was chilling. He wasn't. He was 341 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: out the way, he was just watching. 342 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 5: I don't think he want to be a part of it, 343 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 5: you know, he trying to do his time and get 344 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 5: out of He's a short stay guy, so he was 345 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 5: only got like a year or so some of the 346 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 5: guys in the fifty plus one hundred plus years. 347 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: But they're doing better. 348 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 5: With trying to rehabilitate guys, you know what I'm saying. 349 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 5: They had dog like straight dogs are allowing them to 350 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 5: like adopt you know that type of thing. But yeah, 351 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 5: it's I learned some new shit every day every time 352 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 5: I'm in there. 353 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: And how is that experience? 354 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: How was that experience going into the prison systems? You 355 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: know for me personally, I know a lot of guys 356 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: that were great basketball players that you know, just took 357 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: a left turn and ended up doing prison time. So 358 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure spending time in these prisons you come across 359 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: guys that could really hoop, Like how was just seeing 360 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: guys or you like, yo, no, you could have played 361 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: in the league. 362 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: With the saying, there's a. 363 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 5: Bunch of people, even in a woman's prison, you look 364 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 5: at them like you look like a normal civilian, like 365 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 5: why are you here? 366 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: Right? 367 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 5: It's a random it's not random, but it's a wild 368 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 5: story of one bad decision, of one drunk night car accident, 369 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And they got thirty forty 370 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 5: years These guys were hooping wonders. I used to play 371 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 5: with Chauncey. I was a point guard back in the 372 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 5: day with SO and so. I played a lot of 373 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 5: them from the LA area, someone from different areas. But 374 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 5: they hooped and they owe g's and you could tell 375 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 5: they hooped back in the day. They're like, you know, 376 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 5: you must have played somewhere, and they like, I'm about 377 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 5: to get out soon. But they're in great shape, by 378 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 5: the way. So you go in there, yeah, dicking around. 379 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 5: You go the jazz, but they're not playing, and they 380 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: play all day. They could they have home court advantage. 381 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 5: They could shoot on the double rims outdoors sometimes doors. 382 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 5: But it's a it's an unbelievable experience, man, just hearing 383 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 5: the story. But you know, being surprised by guys that 384 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 5: are athletic in there. And that said, they were playing 385 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 5: with some top guys and could have been one of 386 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 5: those top guys that just made a bad decision when 387 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 5: they were fifteen sixteen years old. 388 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't know them. The Warriors have a documentary or 389 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 4: something that they gave. 390 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: I think he got trying. Yeah, I think they went 391 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: in for a brief moment. 392 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 5: They did some visits because a lot of the prisons 393 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 5: are say in the Bay area, but I think folsom 394 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 5: is in Sacramento area. It's not far. But we said, 395 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 5: I do we do all the California area. Shout out 396 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 5: to between the lines, uh Tori state Darren duncan they 397 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 5: put it together? To my homiees So I just volunteer 398 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 5: and uh lanning to do homie that runs actively black 399 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 5: kind of sponsored them and gave them the gear. But 400 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 5: it's said, it's a dope all around experience. People volunteer 401 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 5: at the time. DJ comes in, play some music, people 402 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 5: come in and hoop, people come in and do they podcasts, 403 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 5: they share their stories, so it's a it's a it's 404 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 5: an experience all around. 405 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: Man, What did you do? 406 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: Want to volunteer? 407 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 5: I said, I couldn't even said, I can't even take 408 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 5: credit for the I've seen the homies doing it for 409 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 5: some time and I always wanted to check it out, 410 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 5: you know, because we all have somebody that's been inside, 411 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 5: right Like we all had somebody that were related to 412 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 5: that we know that made a decision and you had 413 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 5: to visit them. So we're connected in some you know, 414 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 5: some way, shape or form. And I was always hooping, 415 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 5: but I was able to go in. I had tore 416 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 5: my knees, so I had time. I was rehabbing and 417 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 5: I wasn't doing much. I wasn't practicing shit like that. 418 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 5: So they're like, yo, you should come check out the prison. 419 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 5: So the first time I went in was when I 420 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: was I had a knee. I didn't play, so I 421 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 5: had a knee injury and I was just there kicking 422 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 5: it with them. And then from there I was like, yeah, 423 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 5: this is dope, man. And it meant a lot to them. 424 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 5: So help put things and it always kept me put 425 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 5: things in perspective for me, you know, like it was 426 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 5: a thing that I feel like every human being with 427 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 5: the freedoms we have, needs that that humbling. You know, 428 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 5: often every couple of months you need to come back 429 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 5: down earth just appreciate what you have. So it's one 430 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 5: of those things that it's not only beneficial to them, 431 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 5: it's beneficial to me. So I'm able to show them love, 432 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 5: you know, give them hope and help make their time 433 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 5: go by faster or easier, but also for them to 434 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 5: teach me a lot of things and also you know, 435 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 5: share their stories but keep me in a humble space, man, 436 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 5: and appreciate the freedoms that I have. 437 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: Ye will be dope to actually like see a lot 438 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: of like these NBA stars going to prison and like 439 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: just for a day and just like who. 440 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: One guys should do it? Yeah, I think it gets 441 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: physical in there though. 442 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of these guys claim they could 443 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: have played in the more physical error right, They claim 444 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: I could have played in that erar Like, well, let's 445 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: see going to Pelican base, see what you can do, right, 446 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: what you can do up in there. Let's see if 447 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: you can you handled a guy that has thirty five 448 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: years left on his charge. 449 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 5: All right, now, they played clean, they play it's good, 450 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 5: clean fun, but they get physical, man. 451 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: And I started when I retired. 452 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 5: I was like, you know, I gotta get back in 453 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 5: shape because out there I was, yeah, I was wheezing 454 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 5: and something like that. We almost lost a couple of times. 455 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 5: We lost one actually lost one game, and I was like, damn, 456 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 5: it's not good. Yeah, we can't let that ship. I 457 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 5: can't let that that happen. They started talking trash like 458 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 5: are we coming back? We're gonna come back far, you know, 459 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 5: to get our look back so. 460 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: As one of the better shooters in your in your 461 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: class when you came in, what do you think about 462 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: the game now, Like, because when you came in, it 463 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: was it was shooting, was you know, three point shooting 464 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: was a part of it. Steph obviously, Steph obviously changed 465 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: the entire dynamic of basketball. But do you ever feel like, damn, 466 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: if I came in like in the last three years, 467 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: I would be one of the top players because you 468 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: were an absolute shooter coming out of U and C 469 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: and that was a big part of your game. But 470 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: do you ever look at the evolution of basketball now 471 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: and be like, if I came in maybe six years later, 472 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: it would be a fair problem. 473 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, excuse me. 474 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 5: I think everybody that's retired thinks that they were born 475 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 5: too early. 476 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: You know. You look at even guys from Shaq's. 477 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 5: Era, They're like, yeah, I wish I was born you know, 478 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 5: twenty because mind you, the money is wait, the money, 479 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 5: that's what it is, is the money. 480 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but. 481 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 5: Shack, his error was better built for his type of game. 482 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 5: There's a bunch of guys that were tweeters that were 483 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 5: probably not built for the time that they came out. 484 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: It was like Yo. 485 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 5: In today's NBA, I could I could play because it's 486 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 5: all perimeter oriented, all guard play, and there's guys that 487 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 5: were like you weren't sure if they were true two 488 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 5: men or three men or three or four men like 489 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 5: they were forward were small forward, and that made a 490 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 5: difference between them making a team and you know, not 491 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 5: being on a roster and had to play overseas. So 492 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 5: there's a bunch of guys that are looking like Damn, 493 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 5: I was born in the wrong era. For me, it's 494 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 5: just like I I appreciated my time because I got 495 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 5: a chance to see both parts of it. I got 496 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 5: to see like old school when I first got early, 497 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 5: like in early and then the trends. I see a 498 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 5: transition and obviously people give, you know, a lot of 499 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 5: credit to Steph and go and stay. But he was 500 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 5: was a big part of the three point transition. But 501 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 5: James Harden, yeah, and D'Antoni. So for me, it was 502 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 5: more so like damn, I wish I got opportunity to 503 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 5: play for certain coaches or play with certain people. And 504 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 5: that's not just in today's era, but even the error 505 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 5: before me during my time, like them, I see D'Antoni 506 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 5: system and they get up shots. You know, Steve curR system, 507 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 5: you know they I would imagine what kind of player 508 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 5: I would have been if I was featured. You know, 509 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 5: Pop respected the three and appreciated it, but it wasn't 510 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 5: a big part of his offense. It was like, oh, 511 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 5: we're going to shoot a bunch of threes. Now everybody's 512 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 5: offense is that way. So it's like, damn, if I 513 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 5: was born ten years later and playing for Boston, what 514 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 5: would that look like? You know what I'm saying, like 515 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 5: what my contract looked like? Would I get more when 516 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 5: I went a lot more rings? But mudgets that I've 517 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 5: won plenty. I've been very blessed. But they're getting up 518 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 5: a good amount attempts man, and guys are getting paid. 519 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 5: You know, the guys that were MySpace at the time 520 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 5: said it eventually got upto like seventy million, which was 521 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 5: big because before that max was certain guys like Tony 522 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 5: Parker getting forty million like that was a big contract. 523 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: Back to the thirty forty million was a big contract. 524 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 5: Then, like the adverage between then bumped up to like 525 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 5: the average be like seventy seventy five. Now you've seen 526 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 5: guys getting a hundred, Hudred twenty plus for like those 527 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 5: guys in that space now two hundred. So yeah, the 528 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 5: money is going up, and I think a lot of 529 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 5: retired guys are like, damn, I wish I was born 530 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 5: like ten years later. 531 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, just to get that bag. 532 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: Tony Parker did that French rap album that I. 533 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: Did to try to make ends meet. 534 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: We just skipping over that. Maybe I missed that completely. 535 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 4: Did you guys know that Tony park at up? 536 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, he wrapped on stage. Bro It's the final on 537 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: Finals MVP. It was a while ago. 538 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a while ago, but it was one 539 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 5: of those things. I think somebody talked to me, like, 540 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 5: you can make a good mo money, Like I don't 541 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 5: think they had. 542 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: It over there. So you can make a good amount 543 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: of you know, you have a good, big following. Yeah, 544 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: you can make it good. 545 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 5: So you know, I think Tony's pops is like an 546 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 5: old school black dude from Chicago, So you know what 547 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like even though he's French, like his family, 548 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 5: like his family is half American half regular black dudes. 549 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 4: Say so, I'm gonna revisit it for sure. Yeah, I 550 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 4: gotta go back, go back and do the knowledge. While 551 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: while we're staying on music coming up in Long Island 552 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 4: in the nineties early two thousands, growing up, what the 553 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 4: type music were you listening to? 554 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 5: Of course the hip hop bro I mean I grew 555 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 5: up on that, you know, My my pops was big 556 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 5: in the moving you know, I wouldn't say we lived 557 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 5: in North Bablon, but we were in every borough and 558 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 5: Queens was a big part of you know, olkooj was 559 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 5: from our area or lived in that area, so we 560 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 5: listened to a lot of him, you know, growing up. 561 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 5: But everybody from a young age from Methadabra and man 562 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 5: all that, Wu Tang big of course, not so much 563 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 5: Pop more so big nas j J was huge. 564 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: Jay Z was big. 565 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 5: And then then of course when I was younger, I 566 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 5: think everybody Eminem was like Doctor Dre and then then 567 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 5: then of course g and it came around fifty cent 568 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 5: dipset as we got in high school, so that was 569 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 5: more of our movement. Then I went to school in 570 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 5: the South, which changed a lot for me. So being 571 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 5: in Carolina, I was like, man, I didn't really mess 572 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 5: with the music like that down there, but then eventually 573 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 5: it came around, you know, t I and then Lil 574 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 5: Wayne blew up. You know, it was in college so 575 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 5: that it was like I had no choice, you know, 576 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 5: they was forced feed me Geezy. Yeah, the southern music, 577 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 5: and I'm like, what the fuck is this? Listen, I'm 578 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 5: listening to ging it, you know, Jim Jones dip set 579 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 5: like what I'm saying right, So, but eventually it said, 580 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 5: I started to open up to be like okay, and 581 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 5: as you get older, you start you know, you're just 582 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 5: like when you taste tipping foods, your expands. You started like, okay, 583 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 5: try to prove char the music and you're like, oh now, 584 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 5: it's like I'm a more R and B guy, but 585 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 5: you know it's the crossover R and B rap, like 586 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 5: the R and B guys that rap to. 587 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: But I like hip hop R and B. Then I'll 588 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: listen to some pop. I don't mind. 589 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 5: You know, some songs say E d M. But you know, 590 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 5: you open to more musical things now, like Okay, I can. 591 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 5: I can vibe to this for a little bit, just 592 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 5: not the whole night. I'm not about to be doing 593 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 5: house and DM the whole night. 594 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can. 595 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 5: I can understand or appreciate a good country song. 596 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you know what I'm saying. 597 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: You had a you had a stint. Uh while you 598 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: were playing, you were known as the guy when you 599 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: weren't in the game, you was supporting your teenage You 600 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: did a lot of dancing on the sidelines. There's been 601 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of a lot of tape 602 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: with you grooving on the sidelines when you wasn't in 603 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: the game. Did you take that on us? Like, listen, man, 604 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: I'm not if I'm not on the floor, I still 605 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: have to kind of give my teammates energy and get 606 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: them going and have fun. Was that something Was it 607 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: a conscious thing or was something that just happened. 608 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: I think it was something that just happened, you know. 609 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: And being from New York, you know how. 610 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 5: And I'm not the type of guy that needs to 611 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 5: be like clear out the room like I got the 612 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 5: dance floor any type of stace. 613 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't need the attention, you know what I'm saying. 614 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 5: But New York, as we danced, we listen to music, 615 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 5: we have fun, you know what I'm saying, we get 616 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 5: lights on the sidelines. I feel like it just naturally 617 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 5: happened because it made it seem like it was an 618 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 5: individual thing, but it wasn't. 619 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 1: It just became that. It started out as a team thing. 620 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: So coach Williams, you. 621 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 5: Know, he's kind of superstitious, so he made sure he 622 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 5: played the music before every game and on the sideline. 623 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 5: My freshman not as much my sophomore's junior year. Junior 624 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 5: became more thing. But sophomore we had everybody in up 625 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 5: sideline dancing so we would have fun. By the time 626 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 5: it came to my junior year, all the people that 627 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 5: was inside with me either had graduated left or starting 628 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 5: or on the floor, so it was like I was 629 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 5: I didn't start till my senior year, so I was 630 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 5: on the left, so everybody's looking at me like, yo, 631 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 5: you got nobody else in the talent like a dance, 632 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 5: Like yeah, you gotta dance. So it became like an 633 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 5: individual thing. Now I'm just the only one crowd. We 634 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 5: had some other guys get into it. We had like 635 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 5: another guy, you know, Greg Little, he's a football player, 636 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 5: but he played with us, so we had him get 637 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 5: into it too. 638 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: So we had a few. 639 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 5: But it became an individual thing because everybody else had left. 640 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 5: But it wasn't really an individual thing. But yeah, that 641 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 5: was just you know, the New York andt me just 642 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 5: on the sideline. We would all dance, you know from 643 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 5: my fresh sophomore year and everybody have different dances and 644 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 5: you know, my version of it. And it was a 645 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 5: random song try to get light to. But you know, 646 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 5: it just became an individual thing as I got older 647 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 5: and everybody kind of left and was starting on the 648 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 5: floor and a superstitious thing, you know. Coach Williams made 649 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 5: sure they played the music and made sure because we 650 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 5: won a lot of games with that music and the 651 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 5: fans love it. Then it became a thing and the 652 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 5: next you know, I became the Carolina puppet. Everybody every 653 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 5: time they see me, you know, Danny dance, we do 654 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 5: dance for us. I'm saying like, that's how it became 655 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 5: a thing. And it was like, you know, but I 656 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 5: enjoyed it. 657 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: Man. It was fun. 658 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 5: It was cool, and ultimately I guess it brought some 659 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 5: type of it get brought and interest the floor in 660 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 5: the group. But it brought you know, some some fun 661 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 5: and light to our team and to the bench and 662 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 5: to myself as well. 663 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 3: What was the music that was always played with the superstition. 664 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: It was jump around. 665 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 3: It was jump around every time. 666 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, every game before every game is to jump around song. 667 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: And did you ever catch him rabbin along to it? 668 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 4: Nah? 669 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 5: I remember, said, said, until I told the story a 670 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 5: couple of times. It was one time they didn't play 671 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 5: the music. I think it was an overtime and we lost. 672 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 5: He was pissed about it. He made sure that music 673 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 5: every time somebody got fired. It's one of those things. 674 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 5: He's an old school coach. You know, you don't like 675 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 5: to look at me the bs. You know, it's okay 676 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 5: til tip off goes up, we get serious. But if 677 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 5: it's something that's working and we went in, he ain't 678 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 5: gonna say nothing. 679 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: So we was. 680 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 5: It was working and winning, and it became a ritual. 681 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 5: But if we would have been dancing on a saline 682 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 5: we were losing, he'd have been like, cut that ship out, 683 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 5: you know what, I'm. 684 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: Cuss this out. But it was a thing. 685 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 5: And then once it became a thing, and when we 686 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 5: didn't have the music one game and we lost, he 687 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 5: was like, all right, yeah, going to make sure to 688 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 5: play that damn music and that you know, we get 689 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 5: our guys in the Salon doing the routine and the 690 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 5: crowd into it. So the fan section, the crowd loved it, 691 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 5: so it was it was a cool It was a cool. 692 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 4: Thing once some you know, once you get to the league, 693 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 4: obviously more doors open up and you you entered the 694 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,239 Speaker 4: rooms with other famous people that you probably hadn't been 695 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 4: in before. What was the first artist that you met 696 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 4: that was kind of like a fanned out moment for 697 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: you once you got to leave. 698 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, being from New York, every 699 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 5: moment is a fan out moment, but you never expressed 700 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 5: that as a New Yorker. Yeah, say, you just have 701 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 5: too much pride. Got to keep it, got to keep 702 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 5: it cool up, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and 703 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 5: you just keep it moving. But I think my first 704 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 5: interactions when I was like just coming out, Cole he 705 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 5: actually found out to me and I was like, oh shit, Cold. 706 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: He's like do you agree with? What up? 707 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 5: Like he's from Carolina, he was outside of the club, 708 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 5: said so, oh shit, Cold, what's up? 709 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like he was young. 710 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 5: I think he was just fresh out of college this 711 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 5: long time ago. And then of course seeing Wayne, seeing 712 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 5: t I seeing a bunch of guys randomly, and then 713 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 5: Dre the weekend. I was a big Weekend fan, you 714 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 5: know when he when he came out. So and every 715 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 5: time I see them as I mean, now it's love, 716 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 5: it's more normal. I'm older, But when I was a 717 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 5: young kid, like the first three or four years, it's 718 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 5: just like even when you're in the court, I think 719 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 5: your first two years is more of a star struck 720 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 5: culture shock for you. Like, Damn, I can't believe them 721 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 5: guarding KD. You know what I'm saying, Like it takes 722 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 5: a year to get used to that. I can't believe 723 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 5: them on the floor sharing the locker room with Shaq 724 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 5: or Lebron. I'm saying like, it's not a you like 725 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 5: everyday thing. And I think rookies are more used to 726 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 5: it now because they have more access to guys they 727 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 5: can like back then, I didn't have social media, wasn't 728 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 5: that big of a thing when I first came in, 729 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 5: So you don't you don't see these guys as you 730 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 5: don't see what their routine, and now you have all 731 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 5: access to everything they do behind the scenes in the 732 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 5: locker room. I didn't know what the hell it so 733 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 5: seeing Lebron in person, seeing shocking persons like them. You 734 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 5: never get to see these guys just playing against KD, 735 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 5: playing against you. Certain people you're like, damn, mellow, You're like, 736 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 5: oh shit, that's Carmelo. Now you see them, it's like 737 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 5: a fraternity show love say what's up? Which is which 738 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 5: is dope? But it takes a year two to get 739 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 5: used to that. Not just rappers, but every every space, 740 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 5: even actors and actresses, which a lot of them you 741 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 5: don't even recognize at first because there's there's smaller. 742 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: People like that. Yeah, I can't believe. 743 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, I remember Batman. Batman is that short? 744 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: Like so many gamest so small? 745 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 5: A bunch of girls said, A bunch of actresses you 746 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 5: look at and you probably have crushes on in your 747 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 5: high school. 748 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: You meet them, you're like, damn, it's so small. Man. 749 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 5: I don't know if you just I want to say 750 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 5: you're disappointed, be like damn, I thought she was like, yeah, 751 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 5: this this big mind you. They do carry an aora, 752 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 5: but they're just small people. So you're just like, man, 753 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 5: I can't believe Hollywood is this small. 754 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: Does celebrities at the games ever change? 755 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 4: I guess the energy in the arena because it's different 756 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 4: between playing for the Lakers than playing with San Antonio. 757 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 4: About who's going to be there Toronto. Obviously Drake took 758 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 4: over for three years straight. 759 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 3: He was at every games. 760 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 5: That changed energy one hundred percent. And I think when 761 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 5: you're the opposing team, that's the fun part. Like when 762 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 5: I started on Sanntonio, think my favorite arenas was going 763 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 5: to New York, going to l A even though from 764 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 5: New York, but seeing who's gonna be COURTSI you know 765 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, like, oh ship, that's Denzel Washington. That's 766 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 5: Detective Olivia you know Benson her real name. 767 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: But you know I watched that. 768 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's like, oh ship and so and so, 769 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 5: you know, Salmon Hik, you know, just random people and 770 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 5: you'll see how small they are. But you're like, damn, 771 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 5: of course. I was watching Jack Nicholson like, oh ship, 772 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 5: you know that's Jack. 773 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: You know, so how many points you are? 774 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: Was there? I don't remember, but. 775 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 5: I said, just watching, watching and having them there, it's like, 776 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 5: you know, it's this is the bright lights, this is 777 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 5: to who So you have fun. You have more fun 778 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 5: than those you don't get to see them in San 779 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 5: Antonio or those other small arenas. But also it's a 780 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 5: big difference when you become a part of those those groups. 781 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 5: You know, it's a different aspect when you're playing against 782 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 5: Lakers and when you're playing for the Lakers. 783 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, it's a different. 784 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 5: Type of pressure, you know what I'm saying, Like those 785 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 5: stars now expect you to play well, They expect you 786 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 5: to every night and expected to win. The lights a 787 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 5: lot brighter. So yeah, it's a different space. And when 788 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 5: you come in underdogs, I'm coming and beat the shit. 789 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: Out of Lakers. 790 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 5: I'm saying, like, it's a different type of approach and 791 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 5: mental aspect of it, and probably a lot more fun 792 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 5: being an opposing team coming in kicking ass and being 793 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 5: a part of the home team where you're like, if 794 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 5: you do something wrong, everybody to builds, like damn, why 795 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 5: do we sign this guy for this much money? 796 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 797 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: What's one of the biggest misconceptions about Coach Popovich, Like 798 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: I look at Coach pop and he does seem like 799 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: this stern, serious guy, But then you also get clips 800 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: of him with with with his players, and you see 801 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: like the coolest side of Coach Pop. What is the 802 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 2: biggest misconception going in as a as a as a 803 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 2: rookie where you probably were like, oh shit, I'm great 804 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: to play for Coach Pop, Like going into it, what 805 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: did you think? And then after your first interaction with him, 806 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: what was it? What was that feeling? 807 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 1: Like that's a great question, man. 808 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think the young kids understand, like 809 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 5: it's a different generation and they have no respect for 810 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 5: the older generation now. But when you walk in a 811 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 5: building and you see Greg Popovich or Coach Williams or 812 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 5: pat Riley, they only carry the ore of like historical 813 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 5: coach like ship. Like damn, it's like the principle, you 814 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, you got to straighten up on 815 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 5: your on your p's and q's, make sure you're not 816 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 5: fucking around or fucking up. So when it came to 817 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 5: seeing him, not only did you think that they were 818 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 5: and so, but Pop looks like somebody that would He's 819 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 5: like a spy, you know what I'm saying, Like somebody 820 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 5: that Yeah you know it's a serial killer on the love, 821 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Yeah, you know, pat Riley 822 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 5: looks like a mob. But like back here, at the time, 823 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 5: like get you knocked off, you know what I'm saying. 824 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 5: So it's like not only scared of him as a 825 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 5: basketball coach, but you scared of. 826 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: Him as a as a man man. 827 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 5: Like the president might might leave a horse in your 828 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 5: bet your bet, She's what I'm saying, Like, might kill 829 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 5: your family. So so seeing them in that space is 830 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 5: like that it takes you back. And the biggest mixed 831 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 5: misconception of them. And I said, I don't know Pat 832 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 5: and coach Williams. I know Coach Wiman as well, but 833 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 5: Coach Williams and Pop, they just people, especially the media 834 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 5: will Pop, they just take. 835 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: Him so seriously. 836 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 5: They think he's a mean guy, when really he's like 837 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 5: the total oposite, Like he's a big soft he's a grandpa, 838 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 5: you know. 839 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: What I'm saying. 840 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 5: Like until he got on the court, now get me wrong, 841 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 5: and i court, he's very extreme and intense. But off 842 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 5: the court, you know, he's teaching about life, you know, 843 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 5: lessons around the world, third world countries, enlighten you what's 844 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 5: going on, like trying to educate you. 845 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: But he cares, he cares. 846 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 5: About your family, and he's a he's a he's a comedian. Man, 847 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 5: it's like it's hard not to let Like he's a 848 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 5: part time Everything he did to me was funny as hell. 849 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: I would laugh all the time. 850 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 5: Also because like he's in his seventies and he's still 851 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 5: you know, he'll get out in the court and started 852 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 5: to mess with you hard, start playing defense on you, 853 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 5: trying to focus you, bully you a little bit, and 854 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 5: you're like, pop, make it that out in here. 855 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: But he is, he's funny. 856 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 5: He's funny as hell, man, and he I think he 857 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 5: likes to mess with the media and he likes him that. 858 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 5: He wants him to think that he's seriously you like 859 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 5: he plays that role, you know, like of pretty much 860 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 5: like he's the coaching coaching version of Jack Nicholson, you 861 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like now, Jack Nilson in his 862 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 5: movies like some fuck with people, he's kind of like 863 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 5: that and make those you know, dry jokes or those 864 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 5: jokes that that make you a little uneasy and uncomfortable. 865 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 5: But he's he he was only playing around. But he's great, man, 866 00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 5: he's great. 867 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 4: We had Victor Cruz on last week and we were 868 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 4: discussing with him the bottle Heard round the World that 869 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: ended New York City club culture. Tony Parker was also 870 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: involved in that episode is being dedicated to Tony Parker. 871 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 3: Vic was, was I what you did at night? 872 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: And I wasn't. I heard about it though I wasn't 873 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: there that night. 874 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 4: Okay, So we uh the way Vlad has been trying 875 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 4: to solve the Tupac case. We have dedicated this podcast 876 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 4: to trying to discover what happened in Whip that night. 877 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: And this is when the bottle broke right caught somebody 878 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: and I did it catch Tony? 879 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 3: And I I believe so, yes, I think he ended 880 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: up suing. 881 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 4: It was between Drake and Chris Brown's entourages of some 882 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 4: type of altercation and Tony happened to be there. And again, 883 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 4: I'm learning so much about Tony Parker today. I thought 884 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 4: he was don't mean it's disrespectful. I just thought he 885 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 4: was more of a square like I thought him and 886 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 4: Tim duncan Ward Barbecue. 887 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: Get me wrong. 888 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 5: The organization makes you feel that way or make you 889 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 5: put you space. They don't want you to encourage you 890 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 5: to spring but basketball like it's your job. But Tony 891 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 5: was an outside boy, you know what I'm saying. Like 892 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 5: he he was one of the very few guys that 893 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 5: like the fashion. You said he was married to Eva Longoria, like, 894 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 5: he was in the Hollywood space, and he likes to 895 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 5: do you know, he liked to part. He's French boy like, 896 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 5: he liked to get out and he wrapped. So he 897 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 5: was a figure. He wasn't just a basketball player. 898 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: He was a figure. 899 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 3: So do you think Tony was a victim that night 900 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 3: or maybe an aggressor. 901 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 5: I think for sure a victim. He was not a 902 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 5: he's not aggressive type guy. But he likes to be 903 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 5: in this I said when he especially younger Tony, he 904 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 5: liked to be in the space. So I'm sure he 905 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 5: was in the space. Probably had no idea what's going on. Probably, yeah, 906 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 5: you know, Christmas up, trying to show you, trying to 907 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 5: show love. They're like, yo, we don't funk with each other. 908 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: Tony. 909 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, he might accidentally, you know, got some things started. 910 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 5: But I doubt he was an aggressive. He likes to 911 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 5: stay in his own space. But he's social guy. He 912 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 5: had his own club and San Antonio at the time, 913 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 5: back in then, it's calling the Wave. You know, his 914 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 5: number was nine, so he had a club and it 915 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 5: was it was one of the very foe spots that 916 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 5: everybody would go to after and hang out and kick it. 917 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, Tony is definitely a victim. He wasn't. He 918 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: was never like a starter. 919 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 4: Did he ever take you out outside of his club 920 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 4: in San Antonio? Like when you guys were on the road. 921 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 5: Tony was one of those guys that we were going 922 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 5: the road and he wanted to do something. We did 923 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 5: Team Dinners a lot. But if there was something going 924 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 5: on in San Antonio or out some or somewhere else, 925 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, I got this going on. 926 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: I got a party here. 927 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 5: And you know, he had the infamous parties at his 928 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 5: house that uh, I don't know if you guys seen 929 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 5: it lately. I think kysonat might be streaming there soon 930 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 5: and you know, help promote it. He's you know, he's 931 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 5: back and forth with France and but I think he's 932 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 5: trying to sell the house. 933 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: So but his house is unbelievable. 934 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 5: Like water park. He had a water park in the 935 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 5: crib and he added more to it. So even then 936 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 5: he would have parties and the biggest, the best part 937 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 5: of it was being able to do the water park 938 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 5: stuff at his crib. So it be a house party 939 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 5: outside and he said he added more to it. But yeah, 940 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 5: so his house was unbelievable and he would have party, 941 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 5: host parties at his crib and he would host them 942 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 5: in different places and be yo, I'm doing this. 943 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: Come through. And his brothers, he had younger brothers. 944 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 5: They were cool people too, and they would invite people 945 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 5: out and you know, they would host. Man, they were 946 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 5: really good at hosting people in San Antonio. 947 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 2: Now, I don't know how long ago you said this, 948 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 2: but you have Kevin Durant over Steph. 949 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: And Yo, this was this was like yesterday, It was 950 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: like two days ago, Like do you do. 951 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 2: You do you really have KD? So so I question question, 952 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 2: do you have KD over Stephan Jokic? And what is 953 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: Danny Green's top five all time? 954 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: Yes? 955 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 5: So, so this is I know it's a controversy and 956 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 5: it's an unpopular opinion, but it's just my opinion when 957 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 5: it comes to the eye test, right, or just the 958 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 5: players that I've laced up, so like people have their 959 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 5: top ten of all time. You know, it's like it's 960 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 5: bron Mike, I should do the other way, Mike bron Cole, 961 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 5: you know, Timmy Shaq, Walt, Bill Russell, Magic, Kareem Bird, 962 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like those guys that normal 963 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 5: peoples mix them around and then sometimes they'll sneak in 964 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 5: Steph in the top ten, you know what I'm saying. 965 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 5: So for me and the top ten, the top players 966 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 5: that I ever seen lay something in my fifteen year career, 967 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 5: the guys that I've laced up the hardest people to guard, 968 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 5: and their resume not be as good as Steph and Jokic, 969 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 5: it might be better. So Katie's resume might be not 970 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 5: MVP wise, but he's got two finals MVPs. 971 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: He's got MVP. But behind Michael Jeffrey Jordan. 972 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 5: The best players that ever I've seen lace him up 973 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,959 Speaker 5: and score that basketball on the offensive on the floor, 974 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 5: Kevin Durant right behind him, and then James Harden. Like 975 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 5: my fifteen year career, those are two hardest guys that 976 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 5: I've ever had the guard, and there's a reason why 977 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 5: they're really good. Now, I'm not saying I put James 978 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 5: hard and above Steph, but Katie has two rings, he 979 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 5: has some finals MVPs. So STEP's resume is better for sure, 980 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 5: but as a player, to me, I'm putting him above 981 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 5: those guys will never see. To me, I don't think 982 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 5: we'll ever see another Kevin Durant. You can put wemby 983 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 5: in a conversation that they're not Kevin Durant. They're very good, 984 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 5: they're big men. They can shoot the three, but fifty 985 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 5: ninety twenty five plus points for like sixteen years, like 986 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 5: guy's been doing it for twelve plus year, like over 987 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 5: a decade and still doing it in year sixteen. To me, 988 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 5: I would put him in the top ten over for 989 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 5: the new er guys. I'll put him in the top 990 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 5: ten before Stephan Jokic. That's just my opinion because so 991 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 5: we'll never see another one of him and not that 992 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 5: we'll ever see another Yokich and Steph like, but I 993 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 5: think we'll come across them before like another one of those, 994 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 5: before we'll see an Covin Durant. 995 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 2: Jokic is. 996 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: Uh. 997 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 2: I think he's a special player. I think his pace 998 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 2: is probably his biggest asset. No matter what you're doing 999 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 2: on your end of the floor, you're not gonna take 1000 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: Jokic out of his pace. I think his IQ again 1001 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 2: is probably one of his biggest assets. Physically, He's not 1002 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 2: gonna you know, he's not the strongest, fastest, quickest, but 1003 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 2: I think his IQ, his pace, and it's under his 1004 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 2: his natural feel for the game is probably what separates him. 1005 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 2: But you know, I gotta go back, so you know, 1006 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 2: I remember what Orlando Shaq looked like, you know what 1007 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 2: I mean. I don't know if Jokic wanted to see 1008 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: Orlando Shack or even La Shack. 1009 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 5: We had these conversations yesterday too, because you know, Shaq 1010 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 5: had some comments to talk about how he would have 1011 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 5: bullied Chet and Wemby and made them quit. Yeah, it 1012 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 5: depends on the era you're playing it, and that may 1013 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 5: be true on the offensive end. I've seen said Joel 1014 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 5: Wenby didn't quit againt Joelle. He had sixty against Wemby 1015 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 5: and he tried to bullion all game. But he's growing 1016 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 5: into a better defensive player and they probably woud have 1017 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 5: double shacked, but Shaq would have had problems guarding them 1018 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 5: to another end, playing on the outside. Yeah, I'm saying 1019 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 5: like he don't He never left the paint in the nineties, 1020 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like he didn't have to, 1021 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 5: didn't have bigs that were shooting threes. Yeah, Dirk was 1022 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 5: the first coming up in in Chris Boss, but he 1023 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 5: played much against But those guys, y'all had some good touch, 1024 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 5: but he never shot three. So I think Shaq would 1025 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 5: have had trouble guarding those guys as well. And yeah, Jokic, 1026 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 5: he's the big man version of Luca. Their pace is unbelievable. 1027 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 5: But said and I think they're one of the kind 1028 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 5: guys too. But I think we'll see another one of 1029 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 5: them before we see another Kemp. A seven foot guy 1030 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 5: that can handle a ball like a guard, shoot three, 1031 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 5: shooting mid range and last that long because most seven 1032 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 5: footers don't have long careers. But Katie is a seven 1033 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 5: foot guard, like a real natural guard. We got shanging 1034 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 5: as a guy that's up and coming that could possibly 1035 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 5: be ye, you know what I'm saying. Like there's other 1036 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 5: guys that could have like Trey Young could have been 1037 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 5: like a Steph Curry. Like there's a couple of guys 1038 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 5: that you'll see as a guard that can shoot the 1039 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 5: three that couldn't possibly emerge into a Steph Curry. Not 1040 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 5: saying that that will happen often, But I just don't 1041 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 5: think we'll ever see another Kevin Durant. But yes, there's 1042 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 5: a lot of guys like I said, Yo said, Yokicic 1043 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 5: was high IQ playing against Shaq, he would have just 1044 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 5: he would have out. I feel like you're outsmarted Shack. 1045 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying now. 1046 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 5: None of that. Shaq was a dumb player. He's very 1047 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 5: smart player. But yea Jokic his IQ in his pace, 1048 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 5: I think it would have threw Shack off. You probably 1049 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 5: got him in foul trouble, took him out, and he 1050 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 5: shoots forty percent from three, forty two percent for three. 1051 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 5: Good luck guard and that you know, you know, I 1052 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 5: get that defensively shocked with a bully for sure. But 1053 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 5: on the other end, they would have in trouble and 1054 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 5: depend on the pace if they're playing in today's araon, 1055 00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 5: Shack's gotta run up and down. 1056 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: You can't just we're not slowing. 1057 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 5: The ball down and throw it in the side of 1058 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 5: your possession, right, Yeah, sure, you gotta be able to 1059 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 5: keep up. And Yokic, as much as he looks unathletic, 1060 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 5: he's getting up and down the court like absolutely, he 1061 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 5: runs a d sometimes down the floor like he'll still 1062 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 5: run the floor. 1063 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So don't get it twisted. 1064 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 2: Before we get into some trivia last question, where do 1065 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 2: you so you do have Michael Jordan as your greatest 1066 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: of all time? Yeah, because now we're in we're into 1067 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 2: the space where we're starting to get more people say 1068 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 2: it's Lebron, and I understand it is. 1069 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: I think Bron has the greatest career of all time. 1070 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: But Mike is my goal. Okay, Mike is my goal. 1071 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 2: All right, that's that's fair. I'm not mad at that. 1072 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 2: You were part of one of the probably one of 1073 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 2: the biggest shots in NBA history in Toronto with Kawhi 1074 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 2: Lennart sending sending y'all to the finals. Were you more 1075 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 2: impressed by Kawhi during that run or Kawhi in San Antonio? 1076 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: Definitely that twenty nineteen run. 1077 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 5: I mean Kawhi and San Antonio was still emerging, and 1078 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 5: he after the year we wanted when he became became 1079 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 5: more of like was. 1080 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 2: He finals MVP? What you did when he was Finals MV. 1081 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 5: Did so after the Finals MVP, that's when they kind 1082 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 5: of gave him the keys because he wasn't he didn't 1083 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 5: have the keys before then. 1084 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: Tony was the guy. You know, he took the keys. 1085 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 5: Tony was the guy. We still have mine own Timmy 1086 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 5: was still very good. Said, even though they're older, they 1087 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,479 Speaker 5: still played very They played great. 1088 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: They were good keys. And then they the mergers of Kawhi. 1089 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 5: The next fourth quarters down the stretch like Pop Mitshell, 1090 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 5: he had the ball in his hands and that happened 1091 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 5: very quickly, and I was like, damn, what the hell's 1092 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 5: going on here? 1093 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: But he became the guy. So he was still young 1094 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 1: when we got to Toronto. 1095 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 5: That's when his veteranship started to emerge and he became 1096 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 5: more of a leader, not only you know, by action, 1097 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 5: but even in the locker room talking a little bit more. 1098 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 5: But that run, especially with coming off injury, coming back 1099 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 5: and doing it in one year and having knee issues, 1100 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 5: like he was playing on one leg half that time 1101 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 5: we were playing Milwaukee. 1102 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: You could see him limping up and down the court. 1103 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 5: So him doing what he did and they just give 1104 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 5: him the ball every time, making the right place and 1105 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 5: lead us to a championship. 1106 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't know if we'll see that again. 1107 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 5: There's only one of the persons that I see in 1108 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 5: today's game that has an opportunity to do that, and 1109 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 5: that's Anthony Edwards. Because he's a two way player. Now 1110 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 5: many two way players can dominate both hods of ball. 1111 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 5: It just takes a lot of energy. So if Andy 1112 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 5: Edwards does it, Jason Tatm's very good too, because other 1113 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 5: guys are very good, they just have a lot more help. Yeah, 1114 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 5: and not saying that Kawhi I didn't have help, but 1115 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 5: he dominated had an unbelievable run against some really good teams. 1116 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 5: Philly was a really good team that could have that 1117 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 5: could have probably should have beat us. Milwaukee was a 1118 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 5: really good team that could have probably should have been 1119 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 5: They up two games in Golden State even though KD 1120 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 5: was out. 1121 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 1: They were a very good team as well. 1122 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 5: So for him to lead us to beat those teams, yeah, man, 1123 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 5: I don't know if I'll see another run like that. 1124 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 3: Do you have a top five New York high school 1125 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 3: basketball list? 1126 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 1: Top five player teams? 1127 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 3: No players, individuals? Yeah? 1128 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: Like top five players ever come out of Long Island? 1129 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:53,280 Speaker 2: We do Long Island? 1130 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I mean I gotta go Tobias is on 1131 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 5: Alst Tobias Harris Wally World while he'serbi act doctor J. 1132 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: Myself and I'm gonna have to throw supe Bird in there. 1133 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Now that's a great pick. Super Bird. That's a great, 1134 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: he's a She's a legend, bro absolutely a legend, absolutely. 1135 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 5: Unbelievable and had an unbelievable career. But there's some other 1136 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 5: players that came from Long Island that are very good 1137 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 5: as well. But I gotta give a lot respect to 1138 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 5: Wally World doctor j So Tobias had an unbelievable career. 1139 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 5: I throw myself, but there's some some other guys in 1140 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 5: there that deserve some more, some more credit, but I 1141 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 5: gotta give. 1142 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: I got to give Supe Bird a nod. 1143 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 3: I respect that I know Land Stevenson is is Cony Island. 1144 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 3: But did you guys ever cross because you guys are 1145 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 3: only like two years young? 1146 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 1: And man, yeah, young and we played on SAU team. 1147 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: So when he was in they said he was in 1148 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: seventh grade, eighth grade. 1149 00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 5: We don't know how all that time, but I think 1150 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 5: I was a junior senior, and I said he played 1151 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 5: he was a young and on our team Long Island Panthers, 1152 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 5: Gary Charles coach, which became New York Panthers. And then 1153 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 5: eventually they said, you know, Charlie Villanova played with us, 1154 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 5: lamorrowed them back and the day run our test Joe 1155 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 5: Kim Noah to my they were a little older than me, 1156 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 5: but Lance was our young like my young guy underneath 1157 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 5: me coming up. And then he ended up, I think, 1158 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 5: moving on and playing with Juice, which was you know, 1159 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 5: tinying them guys with Sebastian played for that's the Brooklyn way. 1160 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 5: They all do, they but he started off with a 1161 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 5: Long Island Panthers. So yeah, you know, Lance was one 1162 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 5: of my young guys when he was coming up, like 1163 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 5: seventh eighth grade. 1164 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,439 Speaker 2: All right, so geddy, they said, we don't know balls, 1165 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 2: so we want to see if the balls. We want 1166 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 2: to know how much music you Danny Green know. So 1167 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna ask some questions, and I believe 1168 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 2: you have some questions for us as well. 1169 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: So well, I got some basic ones. Man, I can 1170 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: see if you know a little something. 1171 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 2: We'll ask you a question, you'll answer, and then you 1172 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 2: can ask us a question. So first question, how many 1173 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,720 Speaker 2: girls were named in Pete Pablo's Freak League? 1174 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: Is it A? 1175 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 2: Is it A eight, B ten, C twelve or D fifteen? 1176 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 2: North Carolina Legend, North Carolina, the North Carolina song. You 1177 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 2: hear that when you land the Deadport. 1178 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 5: So he had a couple of songs with different girls 1179 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 5: in him. So North Carolina thirty and. 1180 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: So that one. 1181 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 2: We just to my freak league. 1182 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 1: Freak league. 1183 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 5: He had a lot of names. So I'm gonna go 1184 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 5: with I'm gonna go with see the twelve or fifteen. 1185 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with fifteen. I'm gonna go with d correct. 1186 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:25,760 Speaker 2: That's correct. 1187 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: He had a lot of names. Bro. It's like DMX 1188 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: when DMX had that. You know what I'm saying, your 1189 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: game and. 1190 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 2: The whole second rational. 1191 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta make like a name playlist of just names, 1192 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,720 Speaker 3: name of the best songs. 1193 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he would have had nuts with this. 1194 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep it, uh, I'm gonna keep it simple 1195 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 5: for you guys, man, because say, y'all don't know ball 1196 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 5: oh man. So there's a couple of schools that are 1197 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 5: the top, you know, U n C, Duke, us LA, 1198 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 5: and Kentucky. 1199 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: That's usually the big names. 1200 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 5: Not anymore as it used to be, but back in 1201 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 5: the day, they were the top teams that everybody went 1202 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 5: to school with. Yeah, because they had the most anti 1203 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 5: double titles. Who has the most NT double A titles 1204 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 5: and men's basketball history between the four U n C, 1205 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 5: one Duke two, U c l A three Kentucky four. 1206 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: Ship. 1207 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 2: I want to say U N see, but I feel 1208 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 2: like this is more so I want to say either. 1209 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 2: I want to say either U c l A or Kentucky. 1210 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 2: I'll go Kentucky. 1211 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: What you got? 1212 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna stick. I'm gonna stick with my 1213 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 4: first answer. But now I know it's wrong. 1214 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: You don't know. 1215 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 3: Just all looked at me. But I'm still okay. 1216 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 5: You got un C U SA Kentucky. Yeah, both are incorrect. 1217 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 5: Is U c l A with eleven? 1218 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 2: I must say, because I know I know Kareem had 1219 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 2: what four. 1220 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: Were born? 1221 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 5: They Kareem probably got stretch, they had a long stretch. 1222 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 5: I should I should have stayed in the day. But 1223 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 5: as of late, I think said the other teams have emerged, 1224 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 5: like in the last twenty years. 1225 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: They probably have the most. But use I had a 1226 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: bunch of them way back in the day. 1227 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 4: All right, we'll stay North Carolina. Uh, somebody that you 1228 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 4: ran into early in his career, Ja Cole? 1229 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 3: Where was he? 1230 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 4: Where was he born? A? Fayetteville, B Chapel Hill, C. 1231 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 4: Charlotte or D Germany as it? 1232 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: Where was it? 1233 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 4: Oh? 1234 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 5: This is my I feel like it's a trick question 1235 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 5: or maybe I want to say I want to say 1236 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,439 Speaker 5: I just want to say easy to say fail because 1237 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 5: it so, you know, Dreamville, I'm gonna say Faithville unless 1238 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 5: he's like a military baby that was born in Germany, 1239 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 5: but I'm gonna say Favville. 1240 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 3: Well, you're your second part was actually completely correct. 1241 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 4: He was a military baby born in Germany and obviously 1242 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 4: a big military. 1243 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 2: Town, so yeh question. 1244 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 4: His dad and mom moved back to Fayeteville, North Carolina 1245 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 4: after Germany, which is kind of he should have got 1246 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 4: on that Tony Parker album. 1247 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: Not even like Germany is crazy. 1248 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 3: France did not could solve some of their problems there were. 1249 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, So there's only a few players that 1250 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 5: have won three titles with three different teams. 1251 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you guys a hint. 1252 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: You know me, I was. 1253 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 5: I was one of them, you guys the introduction, So 1254 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 5: we're gonna guess. You guys have to guess how many 1255 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,919 Speaker 5: players have three different titles with three different teams. One 1256 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 5: is two, two is four, three is six, or four 1257 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 5: is eight. So either one two players have it, four 1258 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 5: players six or eight how many players do you think 1259 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,919 Speaker 5: has three different titles with three different teams? 1260 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go four, six or eight? 1261 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 4: Go see six, I'm gonna go six. It may only 1262 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 4: be too though, No, I mean ship him and Lebron, 1263 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 4: but that's too I forget yeah, because. 1264 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 2: I want to say I want to say eight. 1265 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 1: It is this final. Yeah, and you said six right? 1266 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 3: Six? 1267 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh? 1268 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 5: That both incorrect against it's four four players, so two 1269 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 5: would be the answer, damn only for myself, Me and myself, myself, Broun, 1270 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 5: John Sally and Robert Orry John Sally from you know 1271 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 5: the Pistols. Yeah, yeah, and Robert or people know John 1272 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 5: Sally for being in Bad Boys with the Glasses. 1273 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,479 Speaker 2: Well okay, well I guess it's three different teams. 1274 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: That's the that's the Yeah, three different teams not not 1275 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: easy to do. So four okay? All right? As well, 1276 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,479 Speaker 1: guys aren't far At least you knew Bron had one. 1277 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, Well I don't count. I'm one of those 1278 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 2: that don't. I hate the bubble ring, but that's just me. 1279 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 1: Somebody gotta win, bro, there's all there's always lockout rings. People. 1280 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: You gotta count. 1281 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 2: Somebody's gotta win, you I'm not mad at it, just 1282 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 2: that's just a nasty ring, all right. 1283 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 5: I mean we wouldn't prefer that either we didn't get 1284 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 5: no parade, we can party, we can celebrate, we'd have 1285 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 5: no fans. 1286 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was an ugly thing all around 1287 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: for not just the fans but the players as well. 1288 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: We different, all right? 1289 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 2: Uh for our last question, This Long Island artist or 1290 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 2: artist reached number two on the Billboard Hot one hundred 1291 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 2: for three weeks only, behind Say You Say Me by 1292 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 2: Lionel Richie. Is it a Bismarcki, b Rock Kim c 1293 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 2: public enemy or d Eddie Murphy. Wow? 1294 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: Say that question again? That has behind how many who? What? Now? 1295 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 2: This Long Island artists all artists reached number two on 1296 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,720 Speaker 2: the Billboard Hot one hundred for three weeks only, behind 1297 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 2: say You Save Me by Lionel Richie. 1298 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 5: So back in the day has me that back to 1299 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 5: Kim Rock Kim is from my area to wine dance 1300 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 5: right there? Yeah, loved Rock Kim. I forgot Eddie Eddie 1301 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 5: from Long Island and Roosevelt guy. Yeah, I'm gonna go 1302 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 5: Eddie Murphy. Man, I'm gonna go Eddie because he was 1303 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 5: a big tim star back in the day. I'm gonna go, Eddie. 1304 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 4: You are correct, correct party all the time, produced by 1305 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 4: Edie AARTI we shipp on Eddie's music career, but he 1306 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 4: has he got some hits. 1307 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, he got some hits. 1308 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: All right. 1309 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 2: But Danny, listen, man, we know you got to go. 1310 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 2: We appreciate you taking some time kicking it with us, man. Yeah, 1311 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 2: we got to do this in person. Man, I appreciate you. 1312 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 2: You in New York, Man, whatever you in New York, 1313 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 2: pull out. 1314 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 5: I'll be there again. I said, I'm there, you know, 1315 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 5: every couple of months. I'll be at the end of 1316 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 5: this month, early May. But I'm also summertime, some Little 1317 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 5: Ones is happening. But you know, we definitely got a link. 1318 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 2: Man, definitely in the studio, man, and so we could 1319 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 2: kick it off. 1320 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 5: I would love to talk and said, I haven't been 1321 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 5: in music space like I would. I would like to said, 1322 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,879 Speaker 5: little Ones. I don't watch much TV anymore or listening 1323 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 5: to music and munch and be with little ones. But 1324 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 5: and the music industry has changed so much for when 1325 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 5: when we were younger to now. Yeah, but like a 1326 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 5: lot of women shout out to them though running the 1327 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 5: running the radio stations right now. It's a Lotto Magni, Stallion, 1328 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,959 Speaker 5: Cardi b Lorilla. I mean, they got beat, they got hits, 1329 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 5: a nice space. Shout out to them. Yeah, but you know, 1330 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 5: I want to see the guys we can come back, 1331 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 5: you know, shout out to you know, Drake, Kendrick. They 1332 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,439 Speaker 5: made some some stuff happen this past summer which was dope. 1333 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 5: But I want to see more of it, man. But 1334 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 5: I want to get more in the cultural space, man, 1335 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 5: to be able to chop it up with y'all more. 1336 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 3: Have you spoken to tomar since the whole Kendrick and 1337 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 3: Drake thing. 1338 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, actually he was on the show. 1339 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 5: We hadn't talked about that in particular, but I did 1340 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 5: the show that running back where we was talking about 1341 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 5: Steph Katie being ahead of Stephan Jokic. Yeah, so resume wise, 1342 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 5: I got them in front of Katie. But Katie to 1343 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 5: me a special player. But he was on the show 1344 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 5: and we talked when he was in Sacramento. He came 1345 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,720 Speaker 5: to the show. We interviewed him Max mp of questions. 1346 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 5: So it was brief, but I didn't a chance to 1347 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 5: talk to him about the whole Drake situation. I'm sure 1348 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 5: he ain't phased by it. 1349 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:34,399 Speaker 1: It's whatever. 1350 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Toronto still loves him. Yeah, that's a fact, 1351 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 2: all right, Danny. Well, we hope to see you soon 1352 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 2: here in New York. Come by the studio, come kick 1353 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 2: it with us. Man, Good luck with everything you're doing, 1354 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 2: and we'll see you down the road. 1355 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 5: Appreciate y'all. Man, love man, saying good luck to y'all 1356 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 5: as well. 1357 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 2: My God, thank you.