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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid Verbo. I'll that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State. Is that whoo whoom? And Dan

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Speaker 1: and Tye welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls.

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Speaker 1: My name is ty Hildenbrand, joining me as always still

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Speaker 1: way over there in beautiful sunny southern California, the one

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Speaker 1: and only Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how you doing all things considered?

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Speaker 1: Pretty good? Ty, I'm out West. I'm out West.

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Speaker 2: I feel all right, and I am very happy to

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Speaker 2: be back, not only with you, but with you in

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Speaker 2: the present tense. We're going to continue our first time

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Speaker 2: Loser show. We'll do part three, but I am happy

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Speaker 2: with you for a while. As we talk about will

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Speaker 2: there be college football season? What will that look like?

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Speaker 2: And there is disclaimer needed, but we'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to I'm excited to live in the moment

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Speaker 2: a little bit more than we have been, sort of

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Speaker 1: As you said, Dan, we're going to live in the

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Speaker 1: present and talk about present day circumstances momentarily. But before

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Speaker 1: we do, Hello, Welcome. If you just found us for

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Speaker 1: the first time, We've been podcasting all off season long.

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Speaker 1: talking about a whole bunch of stuff here this evening.

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Speaker 1: that is commandeered by our good friend Peter. Okay, all

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Speaker 1: that being said as our primer here for this episode.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't figured it out, either by the title

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Speaker 1: or by our open, we're going to be talking about

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Speaker 1: the coronavirus and its effects on the college football season

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty or twenty twenty one. We don't know.

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Speaker 2: We've heard weird proposals. Dan, Yep, where are we going

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Speaker 2: with this show? We're going to do a quick disclaimer

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Speaker 2: first though. Okay, it's a good question. But the disclaimer

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Speaker 2: is we're dumb. Correct correct? I mean, can confirm correct

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Speaker 2: anything I get wrong?

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Speaker 2: We're podcasters, in your case, a very secret redacted employee

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Speaker 2: we're not epidemiologists, we're not virologists. We're not in lab studying.

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Speaker 2: We're not frontline health workers. We are, and I know

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Speaker 2: you like this term, we're barnacles on the blue whale

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Speaker 2: that is college football, in college foot sports in general.

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Speaker 1: Just let's get that out there. We're dumb.

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Speaker 2: We happen to be good at hitting record, but we're

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Speaker 1: own tests. Perhaps there's a moral dilemma for some like

433
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Speaker 1: are we taking tests away from other people who may

434
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Speaker 1: need them more. There's a whole thing around where are

435
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Speaker 1: they going to get the tests to begin with? How

436
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: often are they going to test? Well? Obviously determine how

437
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: many they need. So that's a fundamental question around around

438
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: testing protocol. And then there is the question that I

439
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: think we talked about at the top of the show,

440
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Speaker 1: what happens is somebody actually test positive. Sure, there is

441
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: a difference of opinions about what happens if somebody does

442
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: test positive. There have been some out there pointing to

443
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: this very instance, saying it would be catastrophic. We can't

444
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: start the season up, we can't move mountains to formulate

445
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: whatever kind of season we're going to have in twenty

446
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: twenty only to shut it down. That would have horrible

447
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: consequences for players, for coaches, probably for fans, but more

448
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: so for athletic departments and what they're looking for, what

449
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 1: they need from a financial standpoint. There are others still

450
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: like e. Gordon Gee, you remember that crazy guy yep,

451
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Speaker 1: West Virginia president now now at West Virginia. He basically

452
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Speaker 1: said that we're going to have to find a way

453
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Speaker 1: to live with it and they can't shut the whole

454
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Speaker 1: thing down. Maybe tracking a little bit more with what

455
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Speaker 1: you said at the top. So these are all real questions.

456
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Speaker 1: I don't have answers to any of them, nor do you,

457
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: but just to give you a sense for what schools

458
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Speaker 1: are going to have to try and deal with and

459
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Speaker 1: consider as they put together a season, I think testing

460
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: protocol is key to the whole thing. There are options

461
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: out there, they're clearly a lot of discussions taking part

462
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: about this very subject, but testing protocol I think dictates

463
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: ultimately where this thing heads in the short term and

464
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Speaker 1: certainly in the longer term as well.

465
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's you know, not on a

466
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Speaker 2: flip side, but in addition to what you've said, and

467
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Speaker 2: I think that's all correct, is I think it's a

468
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Speaker 2: fair assumption. As test numbers keep going up and up

469
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Speaker 2: and up, and I know that there are questions about

470
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: the accuracy of some tests and false positive, false negatives, whatever,

471
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Speaker 2: it's a safe assumption that there are going to be

472
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Speaker 2: more tests available. And yes, I'm speaking for me, tests

473
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Speaker 2: are going to be more accurate by the time we

474
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Speaker 2: get to a potential fall camp or a preseason camp, right,

475
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: I would hope, so, I would hope so as well.

476
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: It certainly doesn't think it'll get worse moving forward. So

477
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 2: I think that's an important thing to remember. And football

478
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: is a game that already already packaged. In football, there

479
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: is risk, right, There is amount of physical risk involved.

480
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: So players go in knowing about the physical risks involved

481
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 2: in the sport itself, and so I think there is

482
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Speaker 2: going to be an element of this is what we do,

483
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: this is why we came to this school. And I

484
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: think there could be people that are uncomfortable playing and

485
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: uncomfortable with being put into it that situation, and it

486
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Speaker 2: would be very hard for me to criticize them if

487
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: they're concerned about their health. It's very difficult to sit

488
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Speaker 2: here as somebody who went moved across the country to

489
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: be in a more isolated place for me to criticize them.

490
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Speaker 2: So I'm going to understand all of those things. So

491
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: the assumption is things are going to keep trending in

492
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Speaker 2: a positive direction. Knowing that there's probably going to be

493
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Speaker 2: some sort of societal and international second wave of some kind,

494
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: we are going to be better at approaching the situation.

495
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Speaker 1: That's my opinion. Let's move on now and talk about

496
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Speaker 1: some of the actual things that are being kicked around. Sure,

497
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: the one that I think is somewhat assumed is stadiums

498
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: and either no fans or some some smaller grouping of fans.

499
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: Is it plausible to do that? I'll say this, It

500
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: is logistically possible in some places. Sure. I don't know

501
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: if it makes a whole lot of sense, But logistically speaking,

502
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: if you're Jean Smith at Ohio Stadium and you've got

503
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Speaker 1: capacity for one hundred thousand m, it's entirely plausible that

504
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: you can get twenty percent filled. Sure, and he's already

505
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: running projections. He's slamming over mini tab trying to figure

506
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: out how many you can put in the horseshoe depending

507
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: on different guidelines. The question is if you're like Wake Forest,

508
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: right and your stadium capacity is thirty one thirty two thousand,

509
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: is it worth the trouble for you to pack in

510
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: like six thousand people.

511
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: Well, once you're in the stadium, it kind of makes

512
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: sense because you can spread people out for sure, and

513
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: being outside. And there are dome stadiums we know about

514
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: obviously with Syracuse and FCS is a couple of things.

515
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: Northern Iowa we know we've been to the Fargo Dome,

516
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 2: so that becomes a little bit trickier because the threat

517
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Speaker 2: I think is a little bit more or a lot

518
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: more inside. Again, not doctors, tie, not doctors. I think

519
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: it all sounds reasonable, but then we talk about tailgating,

520
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: and we talk about entering through entrances and catwalks and concourses,

521
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: and it is a lot of people still in one

522
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: place coming into contact with one another with the ability

523
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: to spread something that's highly contagious. I'm not fully on

524
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: board with figuring out a right number. I just assume

525
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: play in front of no fans if that, if that

526
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: gets us to a season in a cleaner way. I

527
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: just assume play with essential stadium people only.

528
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Speaker 1: I know it's it's such a thorny thing, and it

529
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: almost it's like the conversation of like, what constitutions it's cheating? Right?

530
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: Well I hugged her. Well, I mean it was like

531
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: a pack like we're trying to like navigate and negotiate

532
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: shades of gray of is this potentially catastrophic? Whereas we

533
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: could just say, you know what, maybe we'll just not peck,

534
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll just not hug aggressively.

535
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: Like even if you let in some smaller audience, how

536
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: do you pick who the people are? Sure? I've seen

537
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: some things about there being a point system, and you know,

538
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: I think logically they could figure out a way to

539
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: do it. But it's complicated, right, And when you're in

540
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: the stadium, I don't know how the hell stadium staff

541
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: enforces social distancing or any kind of distant measures that

542
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: they might have. You know, this is an interactive experience.

543
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: Part of the reason why you go to the game

544
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: is to be and celebrate with other fans. If you're

545
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: spaced out by a row or however many seats, if

546
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: you're wearing masks in there, I would imagine that that

547
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: would damper somewhat the atmosphere inside of a game. It

548
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: might not be it might not be worth the experience,

549
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: the trouble of getting there and going through all the motions.

550
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: I personally, I don't think it makes a lot of

551
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: sense if you're a fan. Put aside the risk of

552
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: getting sick. That the atmosphere, to me, that's what makes

553
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: live sports so great. It seems like that would be

554
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: a holid out experience. So they could definitely pull a

555
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: training game. Yeah, they terrible spring training game. They could

556
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: definitely pull it off. If you're Jeane Smith. Again, they're

557
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: trying to come up with models where they could fit

558
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: twenty fifty thousand people in Ohio Stadium depending on state guidelines.

559
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: If you're a big school like that, if you want

560
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: to try and come up with a way to get

561
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: some of that revenue back, it's of course not going

562
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: to be the same. There is that quirk. But if

563
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: you can pull it off, then you know, go for it.

564
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: But I just gosh, I don't know if it makes

565
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: a whole lot of sense if I'm a fan. That

566
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: That to me is where it's sort of sort of

567
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: doesn't ring true.

568
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: It's going to be a weird looking product on TV,

569
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: but it's a product on TV time.

570
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: It's a product on TV. So some of the other

571
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: proposals that we've read about, and perhaps one that I

572
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: think seems the most plausible is some bit of a

573
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: shortened season. As you've mentioned I think earlier in the

574
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: show and time and again as we've talked about what

575
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: things actually look like. But a shortened season that might

576
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: mean the loss of non conference games, right.

577
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, could push the non conference schedule a year, two years, whatever, It.

578
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: Could mean maybe starting a little bit later, or getting

579
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: rid of buy weeks like it could mean any number

580
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: of different things to try and shorten the season. But

581
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: where do you stand on that? How do you feel

582
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 1: about that?

583
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: I'm good with it's if it's for sensical reasons and

584
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: it gets us football, and it there's a clear line

585
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: that shows that everybody involved in a college football program

586
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: is going to be They're all going to be around

587
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: people less and they're going to minimize their chances. It's

588
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: fine by me, Tie, It's totally good by me. But

589
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: I say that as I am invested, I'm literally invested

590
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: in there being a college football season. I don't want

591
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: you to come at this with people not understanding we're

592
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: stakeholders in this. We want there to be a season,

593
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: and we had our news that we posted on social

594
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: media a little while ago that you know, we're building

595
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 2: out the solid verbal. I don't say this as a

596
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: non stakeholder, as an impartial observer, So whatever gets us

597
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 2: there selfishly as the barnacle riding the blue whale, I want,

598
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: I just want there to be football, and I want

599
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: there to be football with an asterisk of we are

600
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: minimizing risk and we are taking necessary human precautions.

601
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: That's all I want. I do worry about a program

602
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: like Navy. Sure, Navy obviously gets a ton of its

603
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: traction from the game against Notre Dame, in the game

604
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: against Army. Those are non conference games, correct, So what

605
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: does a school like that do? Do they just play

606
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: their ACC schedule? I guess. I guess that's what a

607
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: company game is that six Okay, I'm assuming that some

608
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: bit of their other games could be put on as well.

609
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know where the Pac twelve stands.

610
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: They play some Pac twelve teams.

611
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: So with that independence we have, I mean, once we

612
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: got byu UMass Liberty.

613
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it gets it gets different. Yeah, it gets

614
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: tricky trying to figure out what a team like a

615
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, does you know? And I'm sure they're talking

616
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: about it, as all schools are. But I do worry

617
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: about some of the schools, the smaller schools that rely

618
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: on that game to keep their programs afloat. I am

619
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: curious to see, after all this ends, if there are

620
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: any are any sacrifices in terms of you know, football

621
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: programs falling by the wayside. Oh yeah, I think it's

622
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: entirely possible. You don't root for that, but okay, so

623
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: I think we're both signed on to the fact that

624
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: we want football. We do have a vested interest here.

625
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: But at the same time, we were willing to kind

626
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: of deal with that shortened season. Seems seems doable, right,

627
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: I will happily deal with the shortened season. What do

628
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: you think about a longer season?

629
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: But moving it, well, it becomes trickier with TV because

630
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 2: there are other sports and other programming, and certainly every

631
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: state is different. We've had these, you know, we've had

632
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: conversations about, you know, if California is being more cautious,

633
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: what does that mean for the Pac twelve and potentially

634
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: starting football in August? And we've had you know, the

635
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: governor of oregan come out and talk about large gatherings,

636
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: though not specific to college sports, and so we've had

637
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 2: those conversations about conferences playing at different times. It would

638
00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 2: be fascinating.

639
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: It would be.

640
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Pretty amazing for us to have a spring and fall

641
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: season in twenty twenty one.

642
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: Oh man, give me that, Give me that. I'll take

643
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: it a year long.

644
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: My god, you might not sleep. But it's hard to

645
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: see that happening. It almost at this point with campus

646
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: is being reopened for workouts for athletes, it almost feels

647
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: like a binary thing, like it's either going to happen

648
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: in the fall or it's just not going to happen

649
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Speaker 2: and it's gonna be postponed till the fall of twenty

650
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Speaker 2: twenty one.

651
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Speaker 1: I am intrigued because of the quirkiness, of course of that.

652
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: I did not write down the exact numbers, but I

653
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: saw that ESPN Sports and Information Desk did something like

654
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: there hasn't been a game played, a college football game

655
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: played in February since the nineteenth century. What a century.

656
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: So that would be something intriguing, and it would, as

657
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: you said, pose all sorts of weird scheduling mishaps. I

658
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: think it's less likely because of that. Logistically, again, just

659
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: because there is so much money on the line, they'd

660
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: figure out a way to pull it off. It be hell,

661
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: It be hell to manage all that scheduling, but they

662
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: would find a way to do it if they had to,

663
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: knowing what the stakes were. That being said, my hunches

664
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: are going to try and avoid it however possible. They

665
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: might not have a choice, but they're going to try

666
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: and avoid it however possible, just because it makes things

667
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: far more difficult, not the least of which is trying

668
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: to play a game in Minnesota in late t or Boston. Yeah. Yeah,

669
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: in Madison, Wisconsin, places where it is super cold. Would

670
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 1: be an interesting new dynamic. I'm all for it. Two

671
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: seasons in one calendar year. Probably would kill me. That's

672
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: a lot to ask of athletes too, I guess probably

673
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: would kill me. Could kill them.

674
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: By the way, when you say kill, you mean exhaust

675
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: it be very yeah as well. Yeah, but from a

676
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: fans perspective, Dan, Yeah, totally separate.

677
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: Be amazing from the whole pandemic thing and all the

678
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: implications of that, the horrible implications. From a fans perspective,

679
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: that's an interesting twenty twenty oneth Slate. Isn't it to

680
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: get too presumably full or close to full seasons in

681
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: the span of one calendar year unprecedented?

682
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be wild. We would be we would

683
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: be waist deep, shoulder deep in college football for an

684
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: entire year. Would that just it'd be crazy, especially with

685
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: the draft and especially with players now, you know, promising

686
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: guys who finish their sophomore years going into their junior

687
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 2: seasons potentially this fall, like Trevor Lawrence, do you play

688
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 2: a spring season or you just going to the draft

689
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: now that.

690
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: You're three years after? Would they would have to push

691
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: the draft back? The eligibility of the draft though. It's interesting.

692
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: It is, it is, and it affects recruiting as well.

693
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 2: It's a first of all, have you seen how many

694
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: commitments there have been? Yeah, on the recruiting trail, our

695
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: poal Budd Elliott from twenty four to seven has been

696
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: tweeting about this. There's something like seven hundred in this cycle.

697
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: In the twenty twenty one cycle, there's something like seven

698
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: hundred plus verbal commitments, and at this time last year

699
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: it was like three thirty. And that well to me, says, Okay,

700
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: guys are not sure what's happening, and they want to

701
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: They want their spot, they want to lock in shore

702
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 2: up that scholarship. And two, when things begin to open

703
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: up and when we see games whenever that is, I'm

704
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: going to see a whole bunch of de commitments time

705
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: as players actually are able to visit campuses and actually,

706
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: and that's another thing though, that's a whole other conversation

707
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: is what does recruiting look like? What do official visits

708
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: unofficial visits camps? This is when players are traveling and

709
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: meeting coaches and being scouted by assistants and whatever. There

710
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: are recruiting seasons to college football, So what does that

711
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: look like? Do we have players opting to, you know,

712
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: go to schools within driving distance more than they were

713
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 2: likely to fly one thy, twelve hundred three thousand miles.

714
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: You know, are we going to have Oregon recruiting players

715
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: from Texas, from Florida, from Missouri. We're going to have

716
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: you know, Michigan bringing players Ohio State from Georgia from Florida.

717
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: What does that look like? Are players more likely to

718
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: visit schools that they know they can control the travel too?

719
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: I think that's fascinating.

720
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about bands. Yeah, I don't know if

721
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: we're going to see bands this year, traveling bands. You know,

722
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: like this is a respiratory virus that spreads via droplets.

723
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have a kid blowing into a tuba. Yeah, susophone, sir,

724
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: and expect that that's like not a risk to people

725
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: around them. And that's a shame because the bands are

726
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: the bands are part of college football. They're part of

727
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: the fabric. They make it what it is. I think.

728
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: I think in any circumstance, that's something that falls by

729
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: the wayside, and loudspeakers get a lot more, you know,

730
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: a lot more action. I wonder about mascots though, like

731
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: if you're the Nitney Lion, Okay, the nitty Lion is

732
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: pretty covered up, I'm assuming by mascot case, I think, yeah,

733
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: I think the mascot thing would be interesting to look at.

734
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: Who'd be out there and who wouldn't.

735
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: Ralphie's probably safe, But that's Ralphie handlers too. So you're

736
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: talking about humans that aren't necessary fully necessary. I understand

737
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: if you go to a Colorado game, it almost feels.

738
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: Whoa are you suggesting that we might let Ralphie loose

739
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: without the human handlers, because I'm all for that. I

740
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: think that's the only answer.

741
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's how we really test our metal

742
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: as a society, is how we deal with an unencumbered

743
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: Ralphie and Bevo. Sure we have Bevo. I mean we

744
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: have an Eagle at Auburn. We've got Revelly and College Station.

745
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 2: We've got a traveler at USC without a rider. That's interesting.

746
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean, this is I don't think any of these

747
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: things are happening. I think we are really going to

748
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: go bear bones with this. Yeah, what do you.

749
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: Think about the end game experience? That's where I was

750
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: going to go next. Media coverage, media coverage, so that

751
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: to me seems like it would feel the most real

752
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: for college football fans watching the television product. Mm hmmm.

753
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: I suppose they could do some virtual version of college

754
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: game Day. But they're not going to campus. They're not

755
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: packing everyone in. It's not built by the home depot,

756
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: at least not in the same way that it's been

757
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: for all these years, with people crowding and wearing the

758
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: hard hats and bringing the signs they would have to.

759
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: And I'm assuming they are already thinking through what is

760
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: what does our Saturday game plan look like? If we

761
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: can't gather and put on that kind of party, I.

762
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: Think they would do it from Bristol. I don't think

763
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: we're talking about a skype game. I think they would

764
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: gather in Bristol.

765
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what that looks like, but I'm curious

766
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: and it would feel different. It would feel different for people.

767
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: Are Fowler and Herbie going to go to the game

768
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: and call it No, I think they'll do it remotely.

769
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: I think we would see an uptick in remote broadcasts. Now,

770
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: this is something that actually a lot of fans don't know,

771
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: but many networks have the capability to do this where

772
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: they send cameramen, they have fixed cameras, they have all

773
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: sorts of technology on site for the game people tracking

774
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: the plays and whatnot. But to cut down on costs,

775
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: they actually have a remote recording booth. Now. I did

776
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: ask around about this, and there is some question around

777
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: how would they do this at scale because there are

778
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 1: only a limited number of these so called remote booths

779
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: that are out there. I don't know if we're going

780
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: to have like our friend Kevin Brown talking into a

781
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: blue snowball at home, you know, like I don't know

782
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: how exactly that's going to work out. I don't know

783
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: if they're gonna be doing a podcast like you and

784
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: I do in order to get that audio for a game.

785
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: But I think that feels different as well.

786
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean most major areas, cities, big towns, whatever,

787
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: will have radio studios with satellite uplinks and those the

788
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 2: super fast audio connections. So that's I'm not as worried

789
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: about that. But you're right in that there is going

790
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: to I mean, and I'm sure this is all happening

791
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: in Bristol. And if you're listening to this and you

792
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: produce for Fox or ESPN or cbssoliverblatg gmail dot com,

793
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: educate us, infemous. We know a lot of you that

794
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: are at those places. Listen to this show. Educate us.

795
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: I think they'll find a way. I'm not terribly worried

796
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: about that.

797
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: When I said in game experience, I'm talking about like,

798
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: there's gonna be fewer false star penalties tie oh yeah,

799
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: for offensive linemen aren't going to be hearing ghosts on

800
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: the road because the crowd is so loud, and kickers

801
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: may not be as skined. College kickers might become a

802
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: lot more accurate. There's a lot to be you know,

803
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: maybe teams are better in the red zone because there

804
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: isn't a student section bearing down on them in the

805
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: same way at the same decibel level. I think here's

806
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to be certain things. I wonder about the

807
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: data points after the year, if there's going to be

808
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: something kind of shocking uptick or down tick wise.

809
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: Here's one for you. One of our favorite bits on

810
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: the show, the letdown look ahead Sandwich. Sure. A lot

811
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: of that has to do with where the game is played.

812
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: We also have home dog of the week mm hmm. Typically,

813
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: what do we do for the home team in a game?

814
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: We what subtractors? Yeah, yeah, given three points they get

815
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: they get three extra points, right, mm hmm in some

816
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: places like Lane Stadium's five points per our friend Phil Steele, Wow,

817
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: what h what comes of that metric.

818
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: I'll go back to the fact that I am an

819
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: Oregon Duck fan and the major advantage I mean, Oregon

820
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: is going to be good this year if they play

821
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 2: this year. But the major advantage that Oregon has in

822
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: hosting games is we've seen a lot of big teams

823
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: go to Ots Stadium favored or looking like they're more talented,

824
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: looking better, and Addson is one of many stadiums the

825
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: Swamp and Baton Rouge and Death Valley, all these schools

826
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: that are really difficult places to go. Suddenly, the way

827
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: that those stadiums are constructed and a lack of a

828
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: full stadium, the home field advantage goes down. So Oregon

829
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: hosting Ohio State becomes a lot less scary for the

830
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,479
Speaker 2: Buckeyes if it happens this fall.

831
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: All sorts of weird nuance mm hmm, weird quirks here,

832
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: and I think we're steering into I think that's where

833
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: this thing is headed. If you had to make a

834
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: prediction now, yeah, what's the date again, It's May twenty first,

835
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: twenty first, Thank you, Yeah, a Thursday, if you had

836
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: to make a prediction on this May the twenty first.

837
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: As to where we'll be on say, August twenty first,

838
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: of course we'll be here. We'll be recording because we're nervous.

839
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: But where will the sport of college football be on

840
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: August the twenty first, I think nervous but gearing up.

841
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm hopeful we will not be doing like

842
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: an x's and o's deep dive of Moana on August

843
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: twenty first. I am hopeful that we were not going

844
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 2: to We're not gonna do the you know, breaking down shiny,

845
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: which good song, good tune? I don't know if you

846
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: know you're familiar with the full soundtrack. But I'm hopeful

847
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: that we are going to say, Okay, we are a

848
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: week out of week zero, and I am nervous but

849
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: eager to see how precautions are taken and how this

850
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: all plays out. That is, I'm going to stick by

851
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: my eighty eight to ninety two percent sure we are

852
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 2: going to see an earnest, in good faith attempt at

853
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: a safe college football season this fall.

854
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think August the twenty first,

855
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: we're going to be doing previews, and we should know

856
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: more by the way, I would say within the next

857
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: four to six weeks, because the one thing that is

858
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: widely assumed as you read media reports is that schools

859
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: need about two months to get ramped up to get

860
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: ready for this, and so we should know soon. We

861
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: should know soon about where things are headed. No doubt

862
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Speaker 1: people are out there wargaming right now trying to figure

863
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: out where all this is headed. We're not against doing

864
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: another show like this when we have more information. But

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Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is, we get emails about

866
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: this every day, We get tweets about this every day,

867
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: people wondering what is the state of the college football season.

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00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: The answer right now in late May is we don't know.

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00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: We have some guesses. I think Dan and I are

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00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: on the same page about where we think this is

871
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: generally headed. We feel good that there's going to be something,

872
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: we just don't know what it is and in what format.

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00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: I tend to agree with you. I think they try

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Speaker 1: to start it nervously on time and get as much

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Speaker 1: of it in as they can. I don't think there

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00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: are fans in stadiums, at least not at full capacity.

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Speaker 1: My guess is that local authorities have difficulty containing tailgaters.

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00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: But we can talk about that on another day. As

879
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: we get more information, we'll be here. We'll be talking

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00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: about it, because, as you've been saying all along here,

881
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: we definitely have a vested interest, and we know that

882
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: you out there do as well. Listen to the quietest

883
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: people on this, beware the loudest and most. I think

884
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: that's great advice on the season, great advice. Listen as

885
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: closely as possible to the quietest people in life. Maybe

886
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't know the quiet storm all right, yeah, yeah,

887
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: So again Solid verbal at gmail dot com. That's where

888
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: you could reach out and let us know your thoughts.

889
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: We want to get them. I expect we're going to

890
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: get some very diverse opinions on this topic. Sure, send

891
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: them over. It's okay, yell at us, you don't care.

892
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: We're just trying to be part of the conversation right now.

893
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: Also going out to solidverbal dot reddit dot com if

894
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: you want to be part of the subreddit. My guess

895
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: is that there'll be a teeming conversation over there as

896
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: well about where all this is headed. Let us know

897
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: what you're thinking, where your.

898
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: Heads, if you're if you're on the broadcast crew, if

899
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: you are a decision maker at any of the networks

900
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: that are planning on broadcasting whatever the college football season is.

901
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: Solidverbal at gmail dot com and tell us we I mean,

902
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: we're not going to use your name on the show,

903
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: but tell us your contingency plans, tell us your conversations

904
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: right now, and we will inform the most beautiful podcast

905
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: listenership in the entire world.

906
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: That is all I have. Daniel it's all I have.

907
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: The only other thing I'd add is what I said

908
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: at the top. Follow along on Spotify, on Apple, on Google,

909
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. We're going to be doing

910
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: this show for as long as the off season lasts.

911
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: We're going to be ask you one more question, just

912
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: because we've been asked this question. Please completely off topic. Okay,

913
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: we entered into an agreement with a talent agency WME

914
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 2: Yes confirmed, William Morris Endeavor.

915
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: Yes? Are we billionaires now? No? Weird? Okay?

916
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: What does that mean? What does that change? What are

917
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: we planning on doing? Just be vague and big picture.

918
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: What would we like to do now that we are

919
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: trying in earnest I would argue for the first time

920
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: to really build up the universe of the soliverbal.

921
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: So we've been doing this since what two thousand and

922
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: eight now, we've joked that we are each other's longest relationship.

923
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: That's true. We're really proud of what we've built up

924
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: here with the show, with the Soliverable brand, and we're

925
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: trying to put together a team that can help us

926
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Speaker 1: take this as far as we think it can go.

927
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Speaker 1: We want to scale up, we want to do more

928
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: we want to be more creative. We've got a great

929
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: fan base, people who are fully engaged with the kind

930
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: of stuff that we're putting out there, and I think

931
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Speaker 1: we want to be in a position where where we

932
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Speaker 1: can tap more into that. So without getting too specific

933
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Speaker 1: with it, because we don't have specifics. No, we're not rich,

934
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: and we're just really excited that we can scale up

935
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Speaker 1: potentially in a really exciting way that gives people more

936
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Speaker 1: of what they want. Everybody listening is smart. I'm positive

937
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Speaker 1: about that.

938
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Speaker 2: You've seen what podcasts have done in terms of growing,

939
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: in terms of working and creating other shows and video

940
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: and doing additional shows and being even more inclusive of

941
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: listeners and sort of building out a universe. Check all

942
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: of the above. That's what we are building too. We

943
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 2: have spoken with a lot of really smart people. People

944
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: you would know if you saw their names written down

945
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, huh, interesting, WHOA. We've spoken to

946
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Speaker 2: a lot of these people over the past twelve years.

947
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: We have not been organized in this way now, we

948
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: have not read professionals on our side in this way.

949
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: So we are very excited to build things out and

950
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: we can't do any of it without every single person.

951
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: Most of the people, maybe some of the people, but

952
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 2: almost everybody that's listening. So we're very excited to share

953
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 2: things and build things with you.

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00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: That sounds good. That sounds good. Did not expect to

955
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Speaker 1: be on the front page of the Hollywood Reporter, though.

956
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: That was news to me as well. That's a new one, yeah,

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00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: say the least. All right, Dan, So this has been

958
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: an interesting conversation. You know how to get in touch

959
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: with us, Danny. Stay safe, You wash your hands out there. Okay,

960
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: yes you too. I'm going to do the same over

961
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Speaker 1: here in eastern Pennsylvania for that guy over there on

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Speaker 1: the far side of the US of A. For myself,

963
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: Tie Hildebrand over here in eastern PA. Thank you so

964
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: much for downloading, for listening, and yeah, as always, stay safe,

965
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Speaker 1: stay solid, Peace,