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Speaker 2: first question, Hey, Jason, do you think the Warriors bench

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Speaker 2: I think CP has to stay because he is organizing

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Speaker 2: And with each passing year, Steph will Age and Jonathan

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Speaker 2: But when they get to the deadline, they're gonna have

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Speaker 2: With Luca playing at this level, I'd love to hear

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Speaker 1: So let's look at lineup construction. Now. Remember what I

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Speaker 2: piece is part of it for him, right. But Desmond

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Speaker 2: We've seen as John Moran's come back and they've immediately

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Speaker 2: game series and have success there. Hey, Jason, love the

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Speaker 2: bad question for you. The Pistons are obviously in a

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Speaker 2: and for the kind words. So I've done little flybys

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Speaker 2: even think Pistons fans are aware of. Nningham is awesome.

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Speaker 2: He's a star in the making. Jade and Ivy, in

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Speaker 2: In the last six games, he's played twenty five plus

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Speaker 2: Jalen Duran, He's the ideal type of athletic and versatile

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Speaker 2: Kate Cunningham, Jade and Ivy, and Jalen durn are on

433
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Speaker 2: the floor together they are outscoring teams by three point

434
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Speaker 2: three points per one hundred possessions in three hundred and

435
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Speaker 2: thirteen possessions, roughly three games worth of data of those

436
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 2: three guys on the floor together, and they've been positive.

437
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 2: And again, that's not like something to write home about.

438
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Speaker 2: But that's like, there's a lot of other stuff. There's

439
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: a lot of other fluff in here that's kind of

440
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 2: disrupting some of the other things going on with the Pistons.

441
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Speaker 1: Right.

442
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 2: Obviously, rotation, you know, stuff that I don't necessarily agree

443
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 2: with in terms of the way the rotation is laid out. Obviously,

444
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: injuries have played a role, and then the bench is

445
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 2: like atrocious, it's so so, so bad, and it's something

446
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 2: that's consistently hurting the team. And so there are some

447
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 2: bright spots that are hidden deep underneath all that. So

448
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 2: now let's look at that ideal lineup construction that I

449
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 2: always talk about. Right to me, Jaden is the Jaden

450
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 2: Ivy is the athlete guard, and he will have to

451
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Speaker 2: become an excellent point of attack defender for this to

452
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Speaker 2: pan out. The skill guard, in my opinion is Kate Cunningham.

453
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Speaker 2: I know he's kind of six s eight. But like

454
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Speaker 2: I look at him as the skill guard. Asar Thompson

455
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Speaker 2: is your primary point of attacker and a point of

456
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Speaker 2: attack defender and athlete wing and he's going to be

457
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Speaker 2: able to take the primary, the higher leverage point of

458
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Speaker 2: attack assignments. I actually think he's one of the better

459
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Speaker 2: point of attack defenders I've ever scouted. As I've said

460
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Speaker 2: on the show many times, right, power wing will get

461
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Speaker 2: back there and then athletic center is You're is Jalen Duran, right,

462
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Speaker 2: So it's that big forward spot and you need someone

463
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Speaker 2: there that has real size because Asar Thompson is a

464
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Speaker 2: little bit thin, right, you need someone there who can

465
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Speaker 2: really shoot the ball. Because of sar Thompson is not

466
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Speaker 2: an outstanding shooter. I think it's you could look for

467
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Speaker 2: a kind of player there that's a little bit more

468
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Speaker 2: flawed because he won't have to be as used on

469
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Speaker 2: the ball. Because theoretically you want a guy like Jayden

470
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Speaker 2: to guard other teams quick guards and because Usar Thompson is,

471
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Speaker 2: you know, a guy that's going to take a high

472
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Speaker 2: leverage point of attack assignment. You're more looking for a

473
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Speaker 2: guy with size who can be a help side defender.

474
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Speaker 2: So a guy who can play passing lanes, take the

475
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Speaker 2: low man responsibilities, rotate on the weak side, clean up

476
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Speaker 2: the defensive glass. I'll give you a random example of

477
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 2: a type of player that's not a good point of

478
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Speaker 2: attack defender that would be really useful in this system.

479
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: Kyle Kuzma. I think a guy like Kyle Kuzma could

480
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Speaker 2: be a really interesting player to put next to a

481
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Speaker 2: Jaden Ivy and a Kid Cunningham if you could target

482
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Speaker 2: him in a trade with the Washington Wizards. But that

483
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Speaker 2: to me is where you start to put together a

484
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Speaker 2: really complimentary lineup. From there, a couple of things. Empower

485
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: them and allow them to fail. Give them long leashes,

486
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 2: stop tinkering with the rotation. If you're gonna be bad,

487
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Speaker 2: at least be bad while learning something. It's when you

488
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Speaker 2: are bad without a sense of direction that it becomes

489
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Speaker 2: a waste. And then from there you got to pivot

490
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Speaker 2: quickly from the bad players on the bench. Bring in

491
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Speaker 2: G League guys if you have to, are that are

492
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Speaker 2: young and have potential. But like James Wiseman's not good

493
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Speaker 2: and I don't think he's going to be Marvin Bagley

494
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Speaker 2: is not good, and I don't think he's going to

495
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Speaker 2: be so like that bench piece, at least round it

496
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Speaker 2: out with guys that are going to fit the overall,

497
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Speaker 2: you know, identity you're trying to build. Try something, but

498
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Speaker 2: like whatever you do, don't put it yourself in a

499
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Speaker 2: situation where you're giving a significant rotation minutes the guys

500
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Speaker 2: that are just flat out bad basketball players. Hey, Jason,

501
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Speaker 2: I want your opinion on the players that played for

502
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Speaker 2: Team USA this year. It seems as if all the

503
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Speaker 2: starters have made really good strides branding Gramas and Reeves,

504
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Speaker 2: Tyres Haliburt and Jaylen Brunson, etc. Do you think playing

505
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: some of the world's best with some of the world's

506
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Speaker 2: best help them raise their ceilings in the NBA And

507
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Speaker 2: if so, do you think it's sustainable or flucish. I

508
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: absolutely think it helps raise their sailing and I absolutely

509
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Speaker 2: think it's sustainable. It's a simple a topic that are lying.

510
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Speaker 2: I should say that Ryan Brumley is one of the

511
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Speaker 2: lead producers at the volume. As always said to me,

512
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: it's a rising tide that lifts all boats. Surrounding yourself

513
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: with other super successful people is a great way to

514
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Speaker 2: find out things to emulate.

515
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Speaker 1: You know.

516
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Speaker 2: It's funny because like The most fun that I have

517
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: with the game of basketball now is in the summer.

518
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: And over the summer, all of these young college players

519
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: come back to town, and I've been fortunate enough to

520
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: build connections with them over the years. And they're young,

521
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 2: and they have a ton of energy, and they're all

522
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 2: super competitive, and they're all desperate to get better. And

523
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: so when I'm around them, it invigorates me to love

524
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Speaker 2: the game more and to want to be even though

525
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 2: I'm thirty two years old and I'm just playing for fun.

526
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Speaker 2: It just brings the best out of me as a

527
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Speaker 2: basketball player to surround myself around other really really good

528
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Speaker 2: basketball players. And so that's kind of the way I

529
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: look at it. It's like, imagine that same concept but

530
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Speaker 2: translated to the highest level of the sport. Like even

531
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Speaker 2: within the four hundred and fifty players in the NBA,

532
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: there are players there that don't love the game. There

533
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Speaker 2: are players there that have an enormous amount of natural ability,

534
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: or I should at least say relative to the guys

535
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: at the top of the league, right, And what ends

536
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: up happening is you get in an environment like that

537
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 2: team USA, and again you don't have the superstars there.

538
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: You don't have the top, top, top tier guys that

539
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: we are accustomed to seeing with Team USA. But all

540
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 2: of these guys, especially for their age group, are highly

541
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Speaker 2: motivated guys that you can pick up real quality traits

542
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: from right and so I think in general, every single

543
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: one of those guys gets around those guys, gets around

544
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: the rest of that group, and they feel invigorated, they

545
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: feel motivated. They there's obviously we've heard a lot about

546
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 2: the famous one on one games right that take place

547
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: at these things. I think in general it just serves

548
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: as a springboard for any basketball player to reach a

549
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 2: higher version of themselves. I've seen many fans occasionally call

550
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Speaker 2: the current Celtics roster a super team because of their

551
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: top end talent. This team is great when they are

552
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 2: working hard together, but it doesn't feel like the KD

553
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Speaker 2: Warriors era type of unfair. What's your definition of a

554
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: super team and do you think the Celtics count is one.

555
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Speaker 2: Are there any teams in the league currently that truly

556
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Speaker 2: fit the description. I don't think we've had a team

557
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: like that since the Golden State Warriors with KD. And

558
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: most importantly, you could tell that just from championship odds,

559
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: every single year, we've had championship odds that have positive odds,

560
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: meaning like even if you bet for the favorite, you're

561
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: going to make more money than you bet if they win, right,

562
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Speaker 2: Whereas like those Warriors teams legitimately had negative odds, like

563
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: you had to give extra money, like you had to bet.

564
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Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly what the odds were, but I

565
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: remember like twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, it was like what

566
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: one thirty or minus one forty that the Warriors would

567
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: win the title, which is like insane like that that

568
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 2: think about how crazy that is. The odds to pick

569
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: one team to win the championship of the NBA at

570
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: the beginning of the season was better odds than betting

571
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: a point spread where you get minus one ten, right,

572
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: Like it's crazy to think about. But like the reason

573
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: why that was different was, you know, the Celtics team

574
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: does have super team level talent in my opinion in

575
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Speaker 2: terms of top to bottom total aggregate roster talent, but

576
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: in terms of top end talent between Jason Tatum and

577
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: Jaylen Brown, they're just there. Neither of them are on

578
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: the same level as the Nikola Jokich is, the Luka

579
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: Doncic the Jannis and Tenna Kumbo's like those kind of guys, right,

580
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: And so when you get to the furthest levels of

581
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: the NBA playoffs, the round three, round four, that is

582
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: where the best players really shine through. And so as

583
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Speaker 2: talented as the Celtics team is, I don't view them

584
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 2: as a super team strictly from the standpoint of like

585
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: their star talent. Like if they go, the Celtics, even

586
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: if they win the title this year, will have to

587
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: beat teams that have better star talent in order to

588
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: get it done. They very well might, but I view

589
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: them as just another one of the content. I view

590
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Speaker 2: them as top tier. To me, it's them in Denver

591
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: at the top of the list. But to me, in

592
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: order to be like a true super team, you have

593
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: to be a head and shoulders above the rest of

594
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Speaker 2: the league. What made that Warriors team different was they

595
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: were already an excellent team with a ton of talent,

596
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: and a team that had superstar talent in Steph Curry,

597
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: and then they added a top tier superstar like Kevin

598
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: Durant at that point was a much better player than

599
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: Jayson Tatum is now, and he was joining Steph Curry,

600
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: who was a much better player than Jayson Tatum is.

601
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: Now see the difference. That's why I kind of view

602
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: them as a different tier. Is j dub On OKC underrated?

603
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: This may sound stupid, but I can't think of many

604
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: players who have looked this good in their second year

605
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: as the second option on their team. His strength, his prowess,

606
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: and transition and.

607
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: Vision reminded me of a young Lebron.

608
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: Obviously he's a less Obviously he's less of a physical anomaly,

609
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: but he's certainly a better shooter in year two. I

610
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: feel like he goes a bit under the radar because

611
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: of how good shake Gildess Alexander is. I think the

612
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: other reason he goes under the radar is he's still

613
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: really young, right, Like we're talking about it in his

614
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: second year, Like he just last night had his third

615
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: consecutive twenty plus point game. That's only the third time

616
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: in his career he's done that, And a big part

617
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: of that is he's young. He's figuring some stuff out

618
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: also playing alongside a ton of other ball handling so

619
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Speaker 2: is excuse me, So his opportunities are a little bit

620
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: more inconsistent, right, But I one hundred percent agree that

621
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: he's underrated in the sense that I don't think people

622
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: realize that this guy is a star in the making.

623
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Speaker 1: Too.

624
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Speaker 2: There's several key elements there, Like I, it starts with

625
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: just the geometry, the floor, the flow of the game,

626
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: decision making stuff. So for instance, like last night against

627
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: the Knicks, it's j Dubb just picking on In He's

628
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: bringing chet into ballscreen and he's just picking on Todge Gibson,

629
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: and he's picking on Julius Randall, and he's making the

630
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: right reads, and he's taking and making pull up jump shots.

631
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: He's taking and making tough contested shots at the rim.

632
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: It is like a surgical approach that you don't expect

633
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: to see from a young player, and that's only going

634
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: to get better and better as the years go by.

635
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: From there, it's top tier athleticism, which, by the way,

636
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: like I picked that up immediately at Summer League. You

637
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: still go down in my Twitter feeded, I have a

638
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 2: bunch of videos of Jaylen Williams dunking and me going like,

639
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: holy shit, this guy, this guy's a ridiculous athlete, right,

640
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: Like he was one of the standout guys in Summer

641
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: League that year, and like, combine that with the high

642
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: level passing ability, the ability to consistently beat people off

643
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: the dribble, the shot making from all three levels, and

644
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: then some of that like higher level flow of the

645
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: game stuff. He's a star in the making. It's just

646
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: a matter of when. Still super young, though, so there's

647
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: gonna be some growing pains along the way. Next question,

648
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: if handchecking were allowed again, who do you think would

649
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: be the best defender in the league and who would

650
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: be more effect who would be affected more by this

651
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: change than most I dismissed this question entirely. I have

652
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: a theory about hand checking. It was actually if you

653
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: look in the NBA rule book, hand checking was out

654
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: lowed in the seventies. And what has happened is is

655
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: over the years there's been an ebb and flow in

656
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: the amount of contact that officials have allowed, and there

657
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: have been slight redefinitions of what it is. But still

658
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: to this day, hand checking is a thing in basketball.

659
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: Watch any NBA playoff game in particular, but it happens

660
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: in regular season games as well. But watch any NBA

661
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: playoff game. Guys have their hands on guys, they just do.

662
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: One of the most common forms of hand checking that

663
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: goes uncalled all the time, is it's actually what coaches teach.

664
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: It's inside hand hand checking. So like let's say i'm

665
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: guarding you. Your camera is the offensive player you're guarding.

666
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: I'm guarding you. You're driving this way right past my

667
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: right shoulder. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna lift

668
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: this arm up and I'm gonna take my inside arm

669
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna literally be hitting you like this in

670
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: your stomach, trying to impede your progress while hold my

671
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: right arm up, and they're probably gonna let me get

672
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: away with it. That's one of the most common kinds

673
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: of handchecking that you see, is that inside hand is

674
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: being physical while the outside hand is out and for

675
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: the most part, you can get away with that. And

676
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: like just between fighting for jocking for position, fighting over

677
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: the top of screens, the off arm stuff that offensive

678
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: players are using, there's way more contact that takes place

679
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: in basketball games than people realize. The hand checking thing

680
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: is purely narrative, based almost entirely from the older generation

681
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 2: to try to convince you that basketball's fake now in

682
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: all honestly, it's just it's literally a load of bullshit,

683
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: and like just go back and watch any nineteen eighties

684
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: playoff game, and then watch any playoff game from this era,

685
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: and you tell me which game was more physical. And

686
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the hard fouls. I'm not talking

687
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: about the dude getting thrown into the camera row and

688
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: the brawl that happens. I'm talking about the possession by

689
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: possession physicality. The game's actually more physical now than it

690
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: was in the eighties. The one time it got a

691
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: lot worse than it was now is in the late

692
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: nineties early two thousands, which by the way, led to

693
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: some of the redefinition that took place in two thousand

694
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: and three. But like in that stretch, that was when

695
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: it got to the point where it was too physical

696
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: and the league literally had to step in because we

697
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 2: had playoff games ending in the seventies and that's just

698
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: not good television. Again, like it can go too far,

699
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: And now the whistle's making a bad television product on

700
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: the other side of things, And I wouldn't be surprised

701
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: if you see some of that legislated back into the game.

702
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: Right But the actual concept of hand checking has been

703
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: around for five decades at this point.

704
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: Next question, my.

705
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: Friends and I have started our own purely Warriors centered podcast,

706
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: and we're wondering if you have any advice generally about

707
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: starting a podcast and making it big. Love the stuff

708
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: you do, keep it up. First of all, I think

709
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: it's awesome for anybody to It's funny because it's podcasting

710
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: has become a thing that kind of gets roasted on

711
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: social media these days. But here's the thing, like, if

712
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: are you having fun doing it? Because if you're having

713
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: fun doing it, who gives a shit what anybody else thinks?

714
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I have a Star Wars podcast.

715
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: No one pays me for that shit. I just have

716
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: so much fun doing it that like, I'm not gonna stop.

717
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: I don't care if I don't get paid for fu years.

718
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna keep doing it. Who cares what anybody

719
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: else thinks. So, like, if you want to start a podcast,

720
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: do it. Secondly, there's a lot.

721
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: Of free tools at your disposal.

722
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: You will have to buy some things, right, You're gonna

723
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: need a computer to facilitate it. Like if your computer

724
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: has a webcam, that's fine to start, but if you

725
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: want to, you can spend one hundred bucks on an

726
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: HD webcam, right, Or if you get to the point

727
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 2: where you want to get a little bit more extravagant.

728
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: You can buy a digital camera and use cam link,

729
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 2: which is what we use here to get a better picture.

730
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: Right.

731
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: You can use lighting, or you can record during the

732
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: day if you have to, but you can go cheap

733
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: on equipment if you need to. You can even find

734
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: microphones that are not overly expensive. But on a daily basis,

735
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: it's actually free. There are services that are straight up

736
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: free to host a podcast, a lot of them that

737
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: have built in algorithms that can help you grow your show.

738
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: And so it's funny how over the years the methods

739
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: with which you would get into this industry have changed,

740
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: you know, Like it used to be you'd go knock

741
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: on a radio station and be like, hey, can I

742
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: work the boor or until finally one day you get

743
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: to fill in for somebody on a Saturday night. Maybe

744
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: you're good at it right, or maybe you go right

745
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: for fan Sided or I wrote for fan Sided briefly

746
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: when that when I thought that was a method to

747
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: get into it, although right now I don't think it's

748
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: a very good method. But like there were, there used

749
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: to be all these different ways to get in and

750
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 2: like now it's different, Like the these tools are available

751
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 2: for you to promote your content at your house and

752
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: from there, if you make quality content, people will find it.

753
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: That's what the algorithms do. The algorithms are the ultimate

754
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: meritocracy when it comes to this kind of stuff people watch,

755
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: there's watch time. It just gets advertised to more people.

756
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: And so starting record all your podcasts on video. So

757
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: like if you're doing a podcast with your buddies, make

758
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: sure everything's getting videotaped if you need to. Like like

759
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: zoom calls have video recording built in. Stream Yard has

760
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: video recording built in. It's easy enough to do that.

761
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: Right.

762
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: Once you record your podcast, release it on the podcast feeds.

763
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 2: There's a completely free podcast service called Spotify for podcasters,

764
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: completely free. That's where I host two sons podcasts, my

765
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: Star Wars podcast.

766
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: Right.

767
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: Then you can put it on YouTube as well. Take

768
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: the video, put it on YouTube. Don't overly if you

769
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: have time to overly obsess with editing, sure, but don't

770
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: overly obsessed with graphics and editing and stuff. It's your

771
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: content that's gonna end up winning at the end of

772
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: the day, right, but put it up on YouTube. YouTube

773
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: is completely free and then from there, YouTube has a

774
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: built in algorithm. YouTube as your subscriber base builds as

775
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: your subscribers watch your videos, as they have high watch

776
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: times on your videos, it continues to push your content

777
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: out to other people. You can build thumbnails for free

778
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: with apps like Canva. It's really easy to do. And

779
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: then from there use social media to your advantage. TikTok

780
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: excellent algorithm. I've gained my Star Wars podcast has like

781
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: four thousand something TikTok TikTok's subscribers because I've consistently or

782
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: followers I should say, because I've consistently put clips of

783
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: the show on there, and then I just use that

784
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: to direct people to YouTube or to the podcast. Instagram

785
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: reels another great way to do it. Twitter is actually,

786
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: ironically like the least powerful platform there is, but it

787
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: is a useful platform in its own way. But like,

788
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: that's all free. What I just said, other than the equipment,

789
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: everything I just said is free. Record, get a video,

790
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: put the recording on the Spotify podcasters, put the video

791
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: on YouTube, advertise it on social media. And as long

792
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: as you're having fun doing it and you're putting your

793
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 2: heart and soul into it, you have a really good chance,

794
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,959
Speaker 2: especially with the tools that are at your disposal. From there,

795
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: just have a base understanding that you are dealing with

796
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: a flooded field. And what I mean by that is,

797
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: as I've just described how easy it is to actually

798
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: put podcast content out there, Understand that lots of people

799
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: are doing it. And because lots of people are doing it,

800
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: the people that will rise from the group into having

801
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: success are the people that put their heart and soul

802
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: into it. And so, like you, like, if you're gonna

803
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: do it and do it half asked, just understand that

804
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 2: it's probably more just for fun, right, but if you

805
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: pour your heart and soul to it, you have a

806
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 2: better chance. And then lastly, I would just say, lean

807
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: into who you are. Don't try to pretend to be

808
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: anybody else. Lean into who you are, because at the

809
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: end of the day, the only way anyone's going to,

810
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: you know, embrace your content is if it's authentic. And

811
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: so again that's just like a little brief overview. But

812
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: and you guys, I keep my direct messages open on

813
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: social media. I can't get to all of them, but

814
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: I do try. So, like, if you have a question

815
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: anything specific along those lines, feel free to drop it

816
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: into my direct messages and we can have a chat

817
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: about it. Next question, two questions, actually, how do the

818
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: Thunder win the NBA Finals with the lower market in trade?

819
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 2: And what's your favorite Christmas New Year's traditions? So, first

820
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 2: of all, with the Thunder, though I look at it

821
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: pretty simply, but right now, there are two gaping flaws

822
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: for the Oklahoma City Thunder in my opinion, a lack

823
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: of agent experience and a lack of size. And so

824
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: those two flaws end up being something that causes me

825
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: to be reticent to take Oklahoma City seriously as a

826
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: team that can hoist the trophy. They can be dangerous.

827
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: I've said this with the Nerdsash guys yesterday. I expect

828
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: them to be a championship contender for a long time.

829
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: I just think this year it's a really long shot

830
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: for them to actually hoist the trophy for those two reasons. So,

831
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: Lourie Markinen doesn't necessarily give you any more experience, but

832
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: what he does is it gives you more size, and

833
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: so it addresses one of your primary concerns there, which

834
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: would make them significantly better in my opinion. Secondly, what's

835
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: your favorite Christmas New Year's tradition. So it's my family,

836
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: my wife and I actually every Christmas Eve. We I'll

837
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: give you us two examples. So every Christmas Eve, my

838
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: wife and I host a party for her family. And

839
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: that's always been a fun one because when I first

840
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: started dating my wife, I got in, you know, I

841
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: started coming to this party, and it was always such

842
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: an important tradition for her family. And now we're in

843
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: a position where we're the ones who actually host it,

844
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 2: and so it's kind of cool because it's like an

845
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: honor in the family, given how important this party is,

846
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: that we get to be the one to host it.

847
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: And so this year was actually our first year hosting it,

848
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: and it went really smoothly, and I was just thankful

849
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: and it was kind of cool to be on the

850
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: other side of that after what it was like when

851
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: I first met my wife. Secondly, my younger brother. You know,

852
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: it's funny, I have two brothers and a sister, and

853
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: my older brother and sister both live here in town,

854
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: but my younger brother was actually closest to my age,

855
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: and him and I were the two that spent the

856
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: most time together when we were kids. And then when

857
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: he went to college. My brother was a very good

858
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: football player, and so he ended up going to West

859
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: Point and was like a two time team captain, the

860
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: one of their all time leaders and tacklers, like just

861
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: a really good football player. And as a result, though,

862
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: he went to New York and I barely get to

863
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: see him, and I saw him very literally while he

864
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: was in college and then immediately had to go into

865
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: his five year military commitment. And now he lives in Austin,

866
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: Texas working for Shell and like just a really busy guy, right,

867
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: And so he comes home every year for Christmas. And

868
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: one of the things I do is me and my

869
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: two brothers get together and we just we're actually doing

870
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: this tonight, and we did it again last Thursday. But

871
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: like usually one or two nights while they're in town,

872
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: while Jeremy's in town, we'll get together and we'll we'll

873
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: just hang out like old school, like old times, and

874
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: we'll play guitar. We'll have because my older brother also

875
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: plays guitar, and we'll play guitar. We'll drink a couple

876
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: of beers, we'll watch a Thursday night football game, we'll

877
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 2: play some sports bets. We'll just kind of kick back

878
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: and be brothers, and it's fun for me just because

879
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 2: I don't get to see Jeremy very often, and it

880
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: kind of is just something that I look forward to

881
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: every year over Christmas. Next question, can you explain to

882
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: me what power rankings refers to? Is it the team

883
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: that has the highest chance to win the championship? Or

884
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: is it the team with the best form? Is the

885
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: team that is best on paper? Is the team that

886
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: you like the most?

887
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: Power?

888
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: In the NBA's tricky business, it's an eight seed can

889
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: reach the NBA Finals. To put it simply, for me,

890
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: power rankings our representation of who the best team is

891
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: within this regular season, with some emphasis on who's playing

892
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: better as of late. So like, obviously for me to

893
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: kick Minnesota or Boston off the top two, they would

894
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: need to have a significant slide because I want to

895
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: pay respect to how good they've been all season. But

896
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: a lot of the jockeying around is like who's been

897
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 2: playing better over the course of the last two weeks.

898
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 2: But my power rankings are different from my contender rankings

899
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: because I am a big playoff focused guy. You guys

900
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: know that about me, and so I want to find

901
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: a way to try to draw more attention to regular

902
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: season teams, and so that's how I do. So why

903
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: doesn't Steve Kerr play Kaminga and Wiggins to end the

904
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 2: fourth quarter? Everyone keeps talking about their negative net ratings together,

905
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: but that's because they don't play much together. So how

906
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: can they get a feel for each other. I'm kind

907
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: of ranting here, but I think their defense would reach

908
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 2: an elite level if they can figure out a way

909
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: to play them together. So I actually one hundred percent agree.

910
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: I here's the thing. Whether or not Jonathan Kminga could

911
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: be the three to four for a championship team totally

912
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: different discussion no matter what, though, it's something that I

913
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: think they should lean into more over the course of

914
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: the stretch until the deadline, whenever they decide what they

915
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: want to do. To put it simply, like, I think

916
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: the reason why Steve Kerr doesn't play the two of

917
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 2: them together is Andrew Wiggins is having a really bad

918
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 2: offensive season and Jonathan Kminga is a young guy who's

919
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: inconsistent in his decision making. And as we've seen with

920
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: the wanting to play you know, Corey Joseph from time

921
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: to time, wanting to play Brandon Pizamski big minutes, like

922
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: Steve Kerr is huge on like the flow of their offense,

923
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: and like in general, just the like the decision making

924
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: piece of it, right, And and that's not a big

925
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: part of that is the five out offense and the

926
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: bit like Steph and Clay are giving up the basketball

927
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: a lot, and so they wanted to get back to

928
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: them at the end of the play right, preferably with

929
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: an opening, And so I think that's the reason why.

930
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: But I agree, I think I think leaning into your

931
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: athleticism and to put it simply, like our Jonathan Caminga

932
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: and Andrew Wiggins, two of your top five players, probably yeah,

933
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: so they should probably play more right to at least

934
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: two of your top six players, right, So like I

935
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: would play, I would try to play them more together

936
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: at this point. Like I understand too, why why why

937
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: they're leaning so much into Poziemski. But like at a

938
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: certain point against the top tier teams, especially in the

939
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: Western Conference, size would become an issue with that group.

940
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: Next question, weird male back question. Okay, Jason, you said,

941
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: get weird with it. Since you're also a huge Star

942
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: Wars fan. If you were to form your own basketball

943
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: team using only Star Wars characters. Who would you be

944
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: your who would be your five man lineup? So just

945
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: for fun, I figured why not? We just we got

946
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: to find tall guys, right, So Chew he's got to

947
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 2: be the center. He's a seven footer. H I put

948
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 2: Kylo Rennet power forward because Adam drivers big strong dude

949
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: at the four, he's tall. I put Darth Plagis at

950
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: the small ford because he's this tall slender Mune Darth

951
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: Maul at the two is my athlete guard, and then

952
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: Yoda at the point as my skill guard. There's a

953
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: there's a fun one for you, Jason Nuggets and Celtics.

954
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: What's your take on how they stack up against each other?

955
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. We haven't really talked about this one.

956
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: It's a really interesting matchup because one of the specific

957
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: things I've talked about with Denver is you need a

958
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: team that has a depth of shot creation so that

959
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: you can attack their entry points. One of the things

960
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 2: that Denver does is they try to hedge and recover

961
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 2: with Jamal Murray, they keep Michael Porter Junior off the ball.

962
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: They bring Nikola Jokic.

963
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 2: Depending on the matchup, high end to his drop coverage,

964
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: and they use Aaron Gordon to clean up messes on

965
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: the backside, and so there's not a lot of opportunity

966
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: to attack Jamal Murray and Nicole jokicch in space. What

967
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: you need is a team that has enough offensive talent

968
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: that you can just straight up attack those guys without

969
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: having to get a switch. We saw this with Golden

970
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: State on Christmas Day. They were just using Jonathan Camena

971
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: and Andrew Wiggins a straight post up Jamal Murray and to

972
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: generate quality shots there. Boston's an interesting team because they

973
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: will have that ability. Like chances are you're putting Contavious

974
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: called Pope on you know, probably Derek White, right, You're

975
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 2: putting him most likely on Derek White. You're probably gonna

976
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: put Aaron Gordon on Jason Tatum, right, So naturally there's

977
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: a really good chance that you're gonna end up with

978
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 2: someone like a Drew Holliday or Jalen Brown on Jamal Murray.

979
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, you can use those two

980
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: guys to just literally bring them ball up the floor

981
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: and attack Jamal and not have to worry about trying

982
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: to bring him into the action. And so then from there,

983
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: they have the ability to space teams out. I also

984
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: think chrisops Porzingis could cause some problems for them.

985
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: But the flip side is on the other side of

986
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: the floor.

987
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: Like we talk about the Celtics and their biggest flaw

988
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: being late game decision making, you could not pick a

989
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 2: better team at that than the Denver Nuggets. That's their superpower,

990
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: and so like it's like weirdly, both teams have the

991
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: ability to take advantage of the other team's weakness, and

992
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: I think it makes it really interesting. Obviously, though you

993
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: guys know, I'm gonna take Denver if I have to

994
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: pick one of the two teams. But I do think

995
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: it's very close, and I think those two teams are

996
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 2: clearly the top tier contenders. Your thoughts on the state

997
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: of the Star Wars cinematic universe. The sequel trilogies, in

998
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 2: my opinion, were terrible, but I like what they've done

999
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: with their live and animated shows since besides Obi I

1000
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: series and Boba Fett and then also any upcoming Star

1001
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: Wars projects that you're excited for. So one of the

1002
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: things that bothers me about the Star Wars cinematic universe

1003
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: is their obsession with staying within this timeline, and this

1004
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 2: timeline is already completely butchered anyway, Like the first six

1005
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: movies were the story of Anakin Skywalker and his fall

1006
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: in his rise right as he essentially defeats Palpatine at

1007
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: the end, and like ask, if you ask George Lucas,

1008
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: he'll tell you it's not a Luke Skywalker story. It's

1009
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: an Anakin Skywalker story. That's the whole like point of this,

1010
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: that whole six movie stretch. But because Palpatine survives and

1011
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: transfers his consciousness into a clone, a flawed clone on exicle,

1012
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: and you know, Luke literally just stops being a Jedi

1013
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: and all this other shit. And then you get to

1014
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: the end and like, now Luke dies, Ben Solo dies,

1015
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: Han Solo dies, Lea dies, Like the Skywalker line is

1016
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: just gone, and so is the Solo line, and now

1017
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: you just have Ray Palpatine as this final remaining character.

1018
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: It's all butchered anyway because of how much they they

1019
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 2: screwed up the sequel trilogy. That said, like, even within

1020
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 2: that context, they keep trying to fill gaps within that series.

1021
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: And one of the problems there is even with what

1022
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: I just described your six episode arc is your Anakin storyline,

1023
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: but which turns into basically a Palpatine storyline, right, So

1024
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: that's your overarching story. Everything else you fit in there

1025
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: has to be subsidiary. And that's what's frustrating. Like the

1026
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: best movies out there have truly like powerful villains that

1027
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: are interesting and that kind of have a little bit

1028
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: of a good side to them, right, Like it's funny,

1029
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: as we talked about Marvel, part of the reason Marvel's

1030
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: gone down the shitter, in my opinion, is like you

1031
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: had this profound storyline centering around Thanos, and they just

1032
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: haven't been able to figure out like a real crisis

1033
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: that people care about in these movies, right and like,

1034
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: and that's kind of the issue Star Wars is happening.

1035
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: It is like even as you're going through, like as

1036
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: a Star Wars fan, I'm enjoying the Ahsoka series, right,

1037
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: or did enjoy the Ahsoka series, And I'm really interested

1038
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: to see what happens with Grand Admiral Thron. But even then,

1039
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: like whatever they do there is trapped within, Like whatever

1040
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: happens here comes the First Order in fifteen years, and

1041
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: they're just gonna undo all because they're trapped under that umbrella,

1042
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 2: and Star Wars just has so much cool stuff outside

1043
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: of that umbrella, between like the stuff leading into the

1044
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: Phantom Menace with like Darth Plagus and Darth Bain to

1045
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: like three thousand years before that, with like Darth Revin,

1046
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: and a lot of stuff with the Old Republic to

1047
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 2: wig in the future that they could do interesting things

1048
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: like if they go outside of that umbrella, then they

1049
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: could start to build an entirely a new and an

1050
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 2: enticing crisis or villain that they can construct a storyline around.

1051
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: And so I think that's where they've They've messed up

1052
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 2: an upcoming series that I'm excited for him, really excited

1053
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 2: for The Acolyte. Those of you guys who are Star

1054
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 2: Wars nerds will know that the Sith, one thousand years

1055
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: before the Phantom Menace went extinct, but they didn't really.

1056
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: Darth Baane basically faked their extinction and then went into hiding,

1057
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: and his plan was to overthrow the Republic through basically subterfuge, right,

1058
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: And so The Acolyte's really interesting to me because it

1059
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: takes place in the High Republic, which is like three

1060
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: to five hundred years before the Phantom Menace, and all

1061
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: the High Republic books have been mostly bad so far

1062
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: because they're trying this thing with the Nile, which is

1063
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: like basically a band of raiders just imagine like the

1064
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: raiders that you'd run into when you'd play Fallout, right,

1065
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 2: just just wearing weird clothes and doing drugs and stealing

1066
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: from people, and it's just like not as interesting as

1067
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: like a real motivated villain, right. So, like, some of

1068
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: the High Republic stuff has been shitty, But the Acolyte

1069
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: is allegedly supposed to center around a Dark Side Force user,

1070
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: and so I think it'd be really interesting if they

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Speaker 2: use the Acolyte to try to kind of build out

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Speaker 2: some of the Ancient Sith storyline, which I think would

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00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: be really interesting. Obviously, I'm really excited to see what

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00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 2: happens with Grand Admiral Thron as well, and just in general,

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00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that they get outside of that umbrella eventually.

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Speaker 2: All Right, two more questions. Patrick Bett David posted the

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00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 2: Christmas Day ratings for both the NFL and the NBA

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00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: on Twitter, and the NFL has had five five x

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00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: what the NBA has. He's a huge fan, has interviewed

1080
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: people like Kobe, Shack and Steven A but said he

1081
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: doesn't watch regular season anymore because it sucks. What do

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00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,959
Speaker 2: you think the NBA could do to compete? Even though

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00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 2: the event the NBA is worldwide, in the NFL is

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00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: just US based, and I understand that. So here's the

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00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: thing I think the problem with this discussion is the

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00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: NBA and the NFL are two fundamentally different sports. And

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00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: what I mean by that is, like, I've actually seen

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00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: this phrase thrown around online lately, but they refer to

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00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: the NBA as an inventory sport in the NFL as

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00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: an event sport, meaning like because there are eighty two

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00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: regular season games, in n season tournament, a play in

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00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: tournament for seven game series, playoff rounds, like two months

1093
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: of playoff basketball, there's just so much of it that

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00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: you're never going to get any singular game, even a

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00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: playoff game necessarily to be viewed as a like an event, right,

1096
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: which an event is what you get from NFL from

1097
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: the standpoint of like every game carries huge stakes. Every

1098
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: playoff game is like appointment television because it's single elimination.

1099
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: It's it's just fundamentally different, and so you're gonna get

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00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: higher viewership From there. It's important to understand though, from

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00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: a revenue standpoint, like, even though the NBA or the

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00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: NFL crushes the NBA in revenue by five x or whatever,

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00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: the gap in terms in ratings, I should say the

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00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: gap in revenue is closer by proportion. And part of

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00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: the reason for that is because the NBA has so

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00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: much inventory, which is why they will never shorten the

1107
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: season even though I want them to. And a big

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00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: part of it is they can continue to drive revenue

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00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: through things like overseas, bringing the game more and more overseas,

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00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: which I think will be the case. I would imagine

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00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 2: that if we skip to the distant future, the NBA

1112
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: will probably have franchises overseas. I wouldn't be surprised if

1113
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: that was a thing. And so in general, like the

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00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: way I look at it, like, yeah, if you want

1115
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: to compare the NBA, you're really based on television ratings

1116
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 2: to the NFL. They're gonna get their ass kicked constantly.

1117
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: But the NBA is very much a healthy sport. It

1118
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 2: has some flaws. I've talked about officiating. I think player movement,

1119
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: as much as it is the fair thing to do,

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00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: it's also not necessarily the best thing for cultivating really

1121
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: committed local fan bases, and I think it can form

1122
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: a little bit of a detached feeling from fans as

1123
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: a result. But at the end of the day, that

1124
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: is the morally correct way to approach it from the

1125
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 2: standpoint of free agency.

1126
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: Right.

1127
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: So, like it's complicated, but I do think the NBA

1128
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: is in a healthy place and is going to be

1129
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: healthy for a very long time. I just I think

1130
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: it's stupid to compare the two from a rating standpoint

1131
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 2: when they're so fundamentally different. Last question, As a bald man,

1132
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm always living vicariously through others. So with that said,

1133
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 2: what's the goal for your hair? We going pat riley,

1134
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: maybe even a mullet, So I h this is the

1135
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: I've got some hatthead right now. But I've never gon

1136
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: out my hair before. So the truth of the matter

1137
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: is is I don't know what we're gonna do because

1138
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: I don't even know what it's gonna look like. I

1139
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: did want to try. It is something my wife and

1140
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 2: I talked about for a while. I've been doing the

1141
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: short hair thing forever. Those of you guys have been

1142
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: following the show for a while, know it. I'll probably

1143
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: grow it out for another year or two and just

1144
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: get crazy and then never do it again. So that's

1145
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 2: kind of the plan. But honestly, it's been a pain

1146
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: in the ass. Like I like it, just like having

1147
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: a little bit of longer hair is pain because, like

1148
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: it's just it. My hair is super curly and frizzy,

1149
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: so it just constantly I'd like have crazy BedHead, like

1150
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: eighty percent of the time that I'm walking around my house.

1151
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: But like it for whatever it's worth. I don't know

1152
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do with it.

1153
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: We'll see.

1154
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: I'm kind of leaning on whatever my wife wants me

1155
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: to do just for some fun. But I will be

1156
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: keeping the long hair for at least another year or so.

1157
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you guys. Twenty twenty three has been

1158
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: a really, really great year for this show. It was

1159
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 2: the year I extended with the volume. We've hit crazy

1160
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: numbers once again last month over a million views. We're

1161
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: comfortably averaging over a million views a month.

1162
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: For the for the the year.

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Speaker 2: It's just has been, to put it simply, it's been

1164
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 2: one of the great joys of my life to get

1165
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: to build this with you guys and I sincerely appreciate

1166
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: you rocking with me and supporting me, and and I like,

1167
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: I feel so fortunate, not just to be covering the

1168
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: NBA because of how healthy the league is and where

1169
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: it's going, but I also feel very fortunate to work

1170
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: for the Volume. I jumped on with this company at

1171
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: an earlier phase and between you know, adding Richard Sherman,

1172
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: between adding Daniel Cormier, between adding Darius Slay, between adding

1173
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp, between adding Chad Ocho Cinco, between adding like,

1174
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 2: I think I should be careful because I don't want

1175
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 2: to get in trouble, but I'm pretty sure Shannon Sharp

1176
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: is getting ready to launch a new NBA show with

1177
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: a big name, so I won't reveal it for that sake,

1178
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: but like, like literally now I feel like I'm I'm

1179
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: so lucky to be in this spot because the Volume

1180
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: is turned into this like significant sports media company, and

1181
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: the company trusts me to be their primary NBA day

1182
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: to day coverage. I just feel super blessed, and quite frankly,

1183
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to be in this position if

1184
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 2: you guys didn't support the show. Just to put it simply,

1185
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: and like I talked about earlier, when we were talking podcasts.

1186
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in being authentic and just leaning

1187
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: into exactly the way you want to do things and

1188
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: then letting the chips fall where they may. And you

1189
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: guys have embraced that from me, and I just am

1190
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: so thankful, and I hope you guys realize that I

1191
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: don't take it for granted.

1192
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: Ever.

1193
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm so thankful to see the mailbag questions come in

1194
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 2: every single day. We don't talk about it much on

1195
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: the show, but almost every episode a few of you

1196
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: guys write extremely kind words about what the show means

1197
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 2: to you guys, and I read every single one of them,

1198
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 2: and I really sincerely appreciate them. I just hope you

1199
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 2: guys understand how much I appreciate you guys. Happy New Year.

1200
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four is gonna be awesome. I'm excited to

1201
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: see who wins the championship this season. Hopefully my Lakers

1202
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 2: can get it together to make a run. We'll see

1203
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: what happens. I will see you guys on Tuesday for

1204
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: some power rankings and some game breakdowns.

1205
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Speaker 1: The volume