Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two eighty, episode
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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Monday,
Speaker 1: March twentieth, twenty twenty three. My name's Jack O'Brien aka.
Speaker 1: I've been told I look like son of el Chop Boa,
Speaker 1: resembling his eho across the el Rio. I've been told
Speaker 1: I look like son of el Chop both to the
Speaker 1: honey saying goggins. We don't have the same noggins. I've
Speaker 1: been told I look like son of el Chop Boa.
Speaker 1: New York Mike says, it's a drag. Please don't mention
Speaker 1: that rag. Why because that list is tanging you with
Speaker 1: that best it's a maybe maybe that is courtesy of RAZI. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the airhorns in there for that one,
Speaker 1: all right, Yes he can, Because I am thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined by a very special guest co host, artist, musician,
Speaker 1: the producer of this very podcast. It is super producer
Speaker 1: Justin Kanna Yo yo yo. It's Justin Connor, a k A.
Speaker 1: The shy town, shy guy. I am gonna chicken out
Speaker 1: on doing an AKA. I put a call out. I
Speaker 1: did put a call out, but I did not have
Speaker 1: enough time to prepare. I think I saw one or
Speaker 1: two and they were they were great. Fire. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were great. I will do that and next time, my
Speaker 1: co host, I'm committing to that. Right here. The Jack
Speaker 1: Pierre pressured me before we started. He said I was
Speaker 1: a coward, and I agreed with him. So now I
Speaker 1: have to do this next time. And I ripped open
Speaker 1: my shirt like Kenny Frazier and school ties and shouted
Speaker 1: it at his window. He maybe count his abs as
Speaker 1: I repented for not doing one. Yeah, so we're at
Speaker 1: one over here on the ab front. But justin and
Speaker 1: and by the way, I'm just gonna put it out
Speaker 1: here there as an open invitation, even when Miles was
Speaker 1: back next week. Maybe. I don't know. Folks get excited. Maybe,
Speaker 1: but you're always welcome to join in with an AKA.
Speaker 1: You know, you're always welcome to pop on. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be violent with people now. I will be this. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna disrupt the entire I'm gonna do it, like twenty
Speaker 1: minutes into the recording. Yeah, just coming in as you
Speaker 1: guys are talking about something real, say yeah, please God,
Speaker 1: those are the moments when we need it most in
Speaker 1: times like these, Justin, you have an open invitation. You
Speaker 1: got the green light to shoot away, swing away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Nathan Fielder with it. Just go please,
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Speaker 1: needs it well. Justin. We are thrilled to be joined
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Speaker 1: Please welcome. Noted thought Dad t M. It's iffy. Want
Speaker 1: do you want? Hello? Ship boy? If he coming in strong,
Speaker 1: ready to hold it down, get again. Carving my face
Speaker 1: out on top of my zite more. I know it's
Speaker 1: changed the light. Yeah, yeah, we'll bring it. I'm just
Speaker 1: my face is crumbling back in. I'm you're still there.
Speaker 1: You just got it just needs a few yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I like the suggestion that you're carving your face
Speaker 1: back on top of other face. Yeah, it just Mount
Speaker 1: Mountain Zepmore becomes one big iffy face. Yeah. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just like we've made one side of my face larger.
Speaker 1: What's good man, how are you doing? Oh man, I'm
Speaker 1: doing good. You know, it's been great, just uh enjoying. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I just did the Joco Cruise last week
Speaker 1: and that was a blast, you know, on a boat
Speaker 1: with a bunch of nerds doing nerdy stuff. I did
Speaker 1: some of uh and uh yeah, now I'm feeling good.
Speaker 1: You know, already already went snowboard and I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get it in as much before the uh before the
Speaker 1: you know it ends, the ice pack melts. Climate change
Speaker 1: makes it so you I mean, the climate change is
Speaker 1: why the season is probably longer this Yeah, we got those,
Speaker 1: we got those ground shoulders though. We're good. You just yeah,
Speaker 1: we have a giant apparatus to chill the ground and
Speaker 1: well you know, we can combat global warming. Well it
Speaker 1: was It's funny because you know they're like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: rained and snowed so much that we've stopped the drought measures.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, keep it going, like keep it like
Speaker 1: like like let's stop thinking in the now and let's
Speaker 1: get the reserves back down. We know that, we know
Speaker 1: that we go through it because honestly, I think we
Speaker 1: just need to permanently change our water usage, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it comes down to. Turns out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that seems to be the case. If you're going
Speaker 1: back to the cruise thing. Cruise culture is kind of controversial.
Speaker 1: Some people I hate it, some people love it. How
Speaker 1: did you find the cruise? What were your feelings of
Speaker 1: whose culture? I gotta say, you know, they're obviously as
Speaker 1: a performer on the cruise, I am biased. I get
Speaker 1: like certain perks and stuff, but I will say, you know,
Speaker 1: it is interesting when you like the surface level is
Speaker 1: very fun. But if you think too hard, it'll be
Speaker 1: wild because you're like, oh man, the staff is all
Speaker 1: these great, working, attentive people from the Philippines, and you're like,
Speaker 1: if all your staff is from another country, that can't
Speaker 1: you know, capitalism has taught us that can't be good,
Speaker 1: that can't be There must be a reason but one yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that they all chosen to hire outside of the US.
Speaker 1: It's like, why why is this? What is this? Can
Speaker 1: I know what you're being paid, so I know whether
Speaker 1: the whether the really getting the ass anyway perks getting
Speaker 1: to drive the ship. You know, they refused as much
Speaker 1: as I kind of knocked on the captain's door a
Speaker 1: couple and just I want to drift. The boat's going
Speaker 1: to burn out on the sea real quick. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't let me in there. But you know the food,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty four hour access to food. Can't get
Speaker 1: any better than that. And then we then we heard
Speaker 1: there's this thing where like a lot of older people
Speaker 1: will just do a month of cruises, where they would
Speaker 1: just keep doing because you know, it's your room and
Speaker 1: board and your food kind of paid for. It actually
Speaker 1: ends up being cheaper than like a retirement home. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of which I was gonna say, I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is like a black thing, but a lot
Speaker 1: of the older generations in my family they love a cruise.
Speaker 1: They absolutely love a cruise. And Miles and I were
Speaker 1: talking about this too. He has a similar experience. And
Speaker 1: when I talk about my love of cruises, generally the
Speaker 1: most people it gets shot down. They're like, ah, that's
Speaker 1: that's shitty. But also though the two cruises I've been
Speaker 1: on I had hello, white people serving me, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that that felt great. So ye see, I want that
Speaker 1: cruise that it was like a great cruise. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean truly, it's it's it's funny that you should say that,
Speaker 1: because yeah, no, my family was all in on cruises
Speaker 1: and you know, speaking of a mountain sight more jaquise.
Speaker 1: Neil loves the cruise. He got real hyped when he
Speaker 1: heard I was going on a cruise. He loves the cruise.
Speaker 1: He's big in the cruise culture too. But I think
Speaker 1: the first cruise I went on, I was like completely sold.
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, let's do it, let's do it.
Speaker 1: The second one I didn't like it as much, but
Speaker 1: it was more so because I was like I kind
Speaker 1: of viewed it in this way where where I thought,
Speaker 1: this would be way more fun if everyone had the
Speaker 1: same vibe. Because on a cruise you have just mixed
Speaker 1: on this family vaca, retirement home folks, young group of
Speaker 1: folks trying to get like turned up. So between all
Speaker 1: of that, you know, it's a very mixed bag. But
Speaker 1: something like the Joco cruise, where the whole cruise is
Speaker 1: charged and everyone's on the same vibe, it's I was like,
Speaker 1: this is what I was thinking of when I said
Speaker 1: everyone needs to be the same vibe. So that's a
Speaker 1: fair point. You can do a themed cruise. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: say go that route like it's joke. Oh, like the
Speaker 1: word joke. And then oh yeah, for Jonathan Colton the songwriter,
Speaker 1: it's his crew cruise, his crew, his crew cruise cruise. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got the cruise cruise. Amazing. CUI. All right, if
Speaker 1: you we're going to get to know you a little
Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Amazon is being sued for not warning
Speaker 1: customers about facial recognition technology. They had that Amazon Go
Speaker 1: store announcement where they're like, you just walk in and
Speaker 1: you get to pretend you're shoplifting white people, rich people.
Speaker 1: You get to pretend you're shoplifting for the first time,
Speaker 1: and it'll be fun for you. But it's basically like
Speaker 1: cameras keep an eye on you, and they like know
Speaker 1: and then they just like do the math on the
Speaker 1: back end or some shit. Oh, so they don't have
Speaker 1: to have a person follow you around the entire time
Speaker 1: that I did with me. Oh cool, the cameras do
Speaker 1: the follow We've really come a long way. I love it. Yes,
Speaker 1: But anyways, New York is the only major city where
Speaker 1: it's illegal to use facial recognition technology without telling people.
Speaker 1: So somebody in New York is suing them, which is good.
Speaker 1: I just generally like to give a nice little pat
Speaker 1: on the back anytime someone sues Amazon. Yeah, but this
Speaker 1: is an interesting story because it's about the way that
Speaker 1: they're trying to shape the world to their ends. So
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. We'll talk about yet another brand movie. Man,
Speaker 1: they are coming fast and furious. We've talked about Air,
Speaker 1: We've talked about BlackBerry, We've talked about Tetris, and now
Speaker 1: we've got that Flame and Hot Cheetos movie, which we
Speaker 1: talked about a few years back when it first got greenlit.
Speaker 1: It's directed by Avalongoria and it's a biopick of the
Speaker 1: guy who invented Flame and Hot Cheetos allegedly, and there's
Speaker 1: a big allegedly around this movie. But it premiered at
Speaker 1: south By I think, or yeah, premiered at south By.
Speaker 1: People seem to really love it. So we are going
Speaker 1: to continue to talk about this trend where brands are
Speaker 1: the new superheroes. Brands are the new movie protagonist. We
Speaker 1: might even pitch a couple couple more movies that we
Speaker 1: will definitely be seeing in the future. On a recent episode,
Speaker 1: if we pitched a Lunchables movie about the invention of lunchables.
Speaker 1: But we think we have some ideas for some that
Speaker 1: we are almost inevitable, so we might as well make
Speaker 1: them good. All of that plenty more were maybe just
Speaker 1: a few of those things. But before we get to
Speaker 1: any of it, if he we do like to ask
Speaker 1: our guest, what is something from your search history? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm just looking so something for my
Speaker 1: search history. This one is pretty simplistic. Everyone knows I'm
Speaker 1: an LA boy. Hold it down, you know, Lakers fan.
Speaker 1: You know now that I'm splitting tick season ticks with
Speaker 1: Nick Wiger and Dave Phillips from Grand Crew. You know
Speaker 1: I've been multiple in the game, more locked in in
Speaker 1: the season, more locked in on the games Dodgers, you know,
Speaker 1: much in the same way. You know, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: loosely paying attention. I'll show up at a game or so.
Speaker 1: Let On. On the cruise, I met made a new friend,
Speaker 1: Malory Omira, this author, and also she has a book
Speaker 1: pod and she's real in a hockey and I just
Speaker 1: went to a King's game. So that was the perfect
Speaker 1: timing of events to give me back into the hockey game.
Speaker 1: And that's the one thing I don't have. I don't
Speaker 1: have a King's jersey, so you know, I kind of
Speaker 1: went in and you know, when you buying sports jerseys
Speaker 1: are dicey, you know, like you know, rest in peace
Speaker 1: to anybody who bought a Kevin Duranters. You know, you
Speaker 1: never you know, you don't know when they're gonna stay.
Speaker 1: So you know, I had to do a little research
Speaker 1: on the team, see who's going. And I also, of course,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to you don't want to
Speaker 1: be basic like you know, back in the Breeze days,
Speaker 1: you don't want to get a Drew Breezes jersey. I'm
Speaker 1: a Saints fan because you know, everyone has the Drew
Speaker 1: Breeze jersey, so I didn't get a So, I you know, Copatar,
Speaker 1: even though he's been with the Kings a very long time,
Speaker 1: you know, he's the captain. Everyone everyone has that jersey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we let Quick go. He's with the Vegas
Speaker 1: Golden Knights. I do remember that because we won the
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup with Quick, so I couldn't get a Quick jersey.
Speaker 1: So then I just went old school and got the
Speaker 1: the classic like Lakers King's jersey with Marcel Diane. You
Speaker 1: who is who's retired. But you know, even though he
Speaker 1: ended his season with the Rangers, he has the longest
Speaker 1: stint with the Kings and is in the NHL Hockey
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. So I was like, that's a safe
Speaker 1: bet and get a classic, you know, because also didn't
Speaker 1: want to do gretzy another like overdone, over us, overworn.
Speaker 1: You know, you want to stand out a little bit.
Speaker 1: Do you want to stand out a little bit, but
Speaker 1: you want them to have enough prestigious to wear when
Speaker 1: they're gone, you can wear the jersey and you still
Speaker 1: get that head nod from exactly. Yeah, that's what's up
Speaker 1: exactly because because you know, I feel like if Copatar left,
Speaker 1: like he's done his time, people would still be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was our guy. But I just hate be buying
Speaker 1: a because you know, if I wear someone, if I
Speaker 1: buy the jersey of someone who's on the team, now
Speaker 1: I want to wear it there. You know what I
Speaker 1: like to call sports cosplay. You know, you definitely want
Speaker 1: to wear while they're there. So you like to wear
Speaker 1: the pads and the helmet too, Yeah, yeah, I definitely
Speaker 1: wear Yeah, I stand, yeah yeah, and I try and
Speaker 1: jump out and until the security kicks me out. But
Speaker 1: for realism, yeah, yeah. It's interesting if you said jump,
Speaker 1: you say jumping back into being a Kings fan. What
Speaker 1: was what was the pause or did you just is
Speaker 1: this the newly found thing or did you take a
Speaker 1: little break, you know? As an as an Angelino, I've
Speaker 1: always been a fan, and then I was kind of
Speaker 1: like when we won the Stanley Cup where we beat
Speaker 1: the Rangers, that was the year I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get into hockey. I had the championship hat and
Speaker 1: I was like, this is I need to focus, I
Speaker 1: need to support the team. But just I feel like
Speaker 1: hockey comes on at an interesting time where it's kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, it's mixed because if you're following baseball and football,
Speaker 1: I mean basketball and football, it's easy to get lost
Speaker 1: in the sauce because one kind of leads into the other.
Speaker 1: So I fell off. But because I have this new
Speaker 1: friend who actually goes to the game and watches it,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be easier for me to kind of you know,
Speaker 1: keep it going because they're gonna be going to the
Speaker 1: games and inviting me essentially. Yeah, I identify with this
Speaker 1: because as someone born and raised in the Chicago area,
Speaker 1: we did not get televised broadcasts of the Blackhawks for
Speaker 1: a lot of the time I was growing up, and yeah,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they just didn't air the Blackhawks games
Speaker 1: in my area. So when that started happening, that's when
Speaker 1: the viewership started to increase, and that's when we started
Speaker 1: getting good, and like Patrick Kane came along and we
Speaker 1: you know, we want to Stanley Cup ourselves. So I
Speaker 1: was like, know, that was when I really started getting
Speaker 1: into hockey for that brief little bit of time. I've
Speaker 1: fallen off since then, but yeah, I can I can
Speaker 1: identify with this for sure. Oh yeah, in terms of
Speaker 1: just the overall shape of like how the sport works,
Speaker 1: like the playoffs, it really seems like kind of a
Speaker 1: crapshoot and it's just like, you know, you have huge
Speaker 1: upsets that happen on like in basketball usually like you
Speaker 1: don't have massive like swings, and it really is like
Speaker 1: I guess I could be frustrating, right that, like your
Speaker 1: team is good all year and then like another team's
Speaker 1: like has the hot goalie going into the playoffs and
Speaker 1: suddenly like they just charged to the But it's also
Speaker 1: like keeps things really exciting and it is just an
Speaker 1: incredible exciting sport to watch in person. Yes that that
Speaker 1: part two is you know, everyone says that baseball is
Speaker 1: better in person than it is on TV, and I
Speaker 1: feel like it's about the same. I think the thing
Speaker 1: that people get excited about with baseball in person is
Speaker 1: just the stadium antics where it's like no hockey, which
Speaker 1: hockey is like pretty exciting to watch on screen too,
Speaker 1: but they're the energy is there. Also, like the last
Speaker 1: game I went to, it made me realize that I
Speaker 1: that how much of a drinking sport it is, like like,
Speaker 1: because you know, basketball is interesting because the big thing
Speaker 1: that you see is like the kiss cam and like
Speaker 1: maybe like the like the half court shot stuff, but
Speaker 1: in a hockey it's like showing people with their beers
Speaker 1: and getting them to chug it. You're like, it would
Speaker 1: show someone with the beer they have to chug it,
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, this rocks. That's funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really funny. What is something you think is overrated? Oh? Man. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know something I think that's it's overrated is I
Speaker 1: think I might have done this in some way. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then this is just definitely I feel like the
Speaker 1: more you come on this pod, the harder the rats
Speaker 1: because you have those like built in overrateds, yeah, like
Speaker 1: oh yeah opinion, and then as you go you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm searching from overrateds. But mine is just um
Speaker 1: like getting the first, the first take, you know, like
Speaker 1: there's one thing about takes. You know, we all know
Speaker 1: about the Internet take. But I also think there's an
Speaker 1: even more fairious thing, which is people trying to be
Speaker 1: the first person to have the woke opinion. And I
Speaker 1: hate saying it now, the word woke. It's it's really devolved,
Speaker 1: Like we're you know, we're talking about back when I
Speaker 1: was on Mountain Zite Moore and coming on regularly, how
Speaker 1: overused woke has been. And now it's become like truly
Speaker 1: a battleground. Like there's battleground states, and now we have
Speaker 1: battleground words and woke is one of them, but it's
Speaker 1: only used by Tugger Carlson at this point. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just the the rush into having like the most conscious
Speaker 1: take on something. A lot of times you just see
Speaker 1: people fumble because they didn't wait to see the situation
Speaker 1: pan out. And this is sounding very political, and it's
Speaker 1: about to get very not political in the second when
Speaker 1: I talk about the Bayonetta voice actress debacle, which I'm
Speaker 1: I'm guessing neither of you have heard about that or
Speaker 1: no about I say that about how could you think
Speaker 1: that I missed the Bayonetta voice actress debacle? But I
Speaker 1: do want to hear your take on it. I'm familiar
Speaker 1: with Bayonetta, I have not gotten into the whole culture
Speaker 1: behind the voice acting of it. Well, then the new
Speaker 1: one isn't going to have the original voice actress. And
Speaker 1: she hopped on Twitter and she was like, I had
Speaker 1: to pass on this role because they were only offering
Speaker 1: me three thousand dollars. And you know whoever, you know,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, that actress that took the role just no,
Speaker 1: you'll never be the real Bayonetta whatever, whatever. And the
Speaker 1: person who took the role was Jennifer Hale, who is
Speaker 1: like a very prestigious voice actor, most popularly known as
Speaker 1: the voices of Female Shepherd in the mass Effects series
Speaker 1: Just Just the Goat. So and also she's very very
Speaker 1: like a like a union stand like she's big about sag,
Speaker 1: making sure video games go sag. When she when the
Speaker 1: voice actors struck against you know, the video game community
Speaker 1: for sag roles, she would host you know, these talks
Speaker 1: at her own home to help, you know, non non
Speaker 1: union voice actors why they shouldn't break the picket line,
Speaker 1: like she's in it. So it's a rough accusation. And
Speaker 1: then of course it eventually comes out that she negotiated
Speaker 1: a price and they and they accepted it, and then
Speaker 1: she tried to negotiate higher and they're like, well, we
Speaker 1: can't pay that, so they went somewhere else. But they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, but you know, we'll give you a cameo
Speaker 1: and you know, for all that done, it will give
Speaker 1: you three K. And that was the full story. And
Speaker 1: so that comes out, and you have all these people
Speaker 1: who were like yelling and like standing on the front
Speaker 1: lines to be the first to like know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Instead of just being like, oh damn, we had the
Speaker 1: wrong information and fucked up, they would they would do
Speaker 1: these this back pedaling where it's like, well it's still
Speaker 1: kind of fucked up that you know, and to me,
Speaker 1: I was like, you put yourself in that position because
Speaker 1: you wanted to be the first person who was right,
Speaker 1: instead of being like, let me see the situation unfold.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean it in the way where we
Speaker 1: had you know, video footage of black bodies laying on
Speaker 1: the street, and you had you know, conservatives being like, well,
Speaker 1: let's wait till all the facts come out, because the
Speaker 1: facts was the video that we all could see. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that when one person is saying something and it's
Speaker 1: truly not you know, you don't need to stand your
Speaker 1: ground there. You can just wait to see the response
Speaker 1: in that maybe you can wait that out so and
Speaker 1: rushing to get first if you're wrong, maybe maybe maybe
Speaker 1: just say you're wrong, Yeah, stop being afraid of being wrong.
Speaker 1: And that is a take that I think I've said before.
Speaker 1: This kind of reminds me of that, like on the
Speaker 1: conservative side, that story where like Ben Shapiro was trying
Speaker 1: to get someone on his network and then they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm mad about what I'm getting paid, and then people
Speaker 1: took sides and then the full story came out of
Speaker 1: like that guy was getting so much money and opportunity
Speaker 1: and he was just complaining for no reason. But then
Speaker 1: the lines have been drawn and it just kind of
Speaker 1: span out, and yeah, it's hard to have people really
Speaker 1: want to have a hot take. I think it's, you know,
Speaker 1: that instant gratification of like, look how authentic I was.
Speaker 1: But first and then you have to be like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: no I didn't. I didn't mean that. As soon as
Speaker 1: you are found to be wrong, which means you were
Speaker 1: never authentic, So you have to you have to really
Speaker 1: be careful and pick and choose your battles. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and if he what is something that
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Oh? Okay, you know you know
Speaker 1: what was coming from from underrated? It's snowboarding. There's been
Speaker 1: a you know, snowboarding. I've been I'm a huge into
Speaker 1: winter sports guy. Look at you. Yeah, I'm a big
Speaker 1: winter sports guy. I was talking about hockey, now I'm
Speaker 1: talking about snowboarding. I this is my second season snowboarding.
Speaker 1: I'm like completely hooked. And it was one of those things,
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up in LA and I just
Speaker 1: thought it was so far from me, not knowing that
Speaker 1: you can just drive up to Palm Dale and there's
Speaker 1: a there's one there and big Bear. But like before
Speaker 1: I continue, I will acknowledge it is a very expensive
Speaker 1: sport to get into because it's like you know, usually
Speaker 1: anywhere from one hundred, two hundred and fifty for a
Speaker 1: lift ticket if you don't have if you don't have equipment,
Speaker 1: fifty for a rental, and like the gas to get
Speaker 1: up there, if you're staying up there. It's expensive. But
Speaker 1: if you can or if you like, you know, slowly
Speaker 1: build up your your boots and helmet, you can like
Speaker 1: piece it together. You can make it work. It it's
Speaker 1: a workout. It's a good workout. You know. Yes, there's
Speaker 1: been people who just get bodied, but you know, take
Speaker 1: your time, play it safe, and you shouldn't get bodied
Speaker 1: unless you're the skier who I definitely bodied. Coming down
Speaker 1: the mountain yesterday, I'm sorry. I apologize. I tried to
Speaker 1: stop and the snow said you're going, and I just
Speaker 1: tackled her and she looked so mad, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, because you know you have I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a i'm a two bills plus eighty coming at
Speaker 1: you and this small woman just got just trucked. But
Speaker 1: she was good. She was able to get up. She
Speaker 1: wasn't happy, but she was good. So that's that. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be my underrated It's snow. It takes a little.
Speaker 1: It takes a little like pushing past the because I
Speaker 1: just learned how to ski like two years ago. Because
Speaker 1: my you know, we had a my dad's a basketball
Speaker 1: coach and so like during during the winter it was
Speaker 1: basketball season. We didn't really like do anything other than
Speaker 1: you know, basketball, and yeah, so like I just learned,
Speaker 1: and man, it is like when you're going down the
Speaker 1: bunny slopes as a thirty nine year old man. Uh
Speaker 1: like that was my kids were like going with me.
Speaker 1: But it's definitely it was definitely like worth it once
Speaker 1: I once I got the hang of it. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean also, like the way athletes process things are
Speaker 1: so different. Because I have a friend who's like, you know,
Speaker 1: in the running for like NFL stuff and all that,
Speaker 1: and I invite him snowboarding. Goes when I'm done playing football,
Speaker 1: I will do it, right, It was like I can't
Speaker 1: risk being injured. Well that's the other thing. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: you're just learning it as an older person, the risk
Speaker 1: of injury is much much high you are, you know,
Speaker 1: like I did well, I didn't really like I got
Speaker 1: the win knocked out of me on one jump, but
Speaker 1: like for the most part, I'm good, but I'm still
Speaker 1: the next day like woof. Yeah yeah, yeah, you're like
Speaker 1: parts of you are sword that you didn't know you
Speaker 1: had parts there. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean with I
Speaker 1: mean carrying your equipment up the up the mountain too.
Speaker 1: When I mean I was I was younger when I
Speaker 1: the last time I skied, I think I only went
Speaker 1: like three times, but last time I was like in
Speaker 1: grade school. But you know, getting on the lifts that
Speaker 1: we had to do sometimes you know, the skis were
Speaker 1: attached to the bottom of your feat but sometimes you
Speaker 1: had to carry that ship all the way up the mountain,
Speaker 1: and uh, that wasn't fun. So it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a good like workout, and I do kind of miss it.
Speaker 1: I remember having like the most fun I've ever had
Speaker 1: while also being the most exhausted I've ever been at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. Yeah yeah, whoops your ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah I stopped yesterday because I physically had to like yeah,
Speaker 1: like my thigh my like right, quad basically knotted up
Speaker 1: into what felt like a ball. Yeah, and I could
Speaker 1: not physically snowboard. I had to unstrap myself and limped
Speaker 1: down the mountain and everyone's like everything on write and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, I'm not. It was to be like,
Speaker 1: I'm not injured. I'm just tired. Yeah, yeah, just old.
Speaker 1: We're just just old. Don't worry about me. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you're a You're a very one of the more
Speaker 1: fit people I know. So I mean, yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: it's gonna kick your ass out there, yolks, but we're
Speaker 1: worth it. Try Definitely. It's definitely fun. All right. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about Amazon. They're being sued always just a happy
Speaker 1: little bit of news, who knows if it's gonna go anywhere,
Speaker 1: But they're being sued in New York in particular for
Speaker 1: having facial recognition, just loosing facial recognition technology onto their
Speaker 1: consumer base without really checking with the consumers. And that
Speaker 1: is against the law only in New York City, as
Speaker 1: lonely city where people might want to know about this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is this? Europe? We got to tell people stuff,
Speaker 1: Come on, But yeah, I mean the whole idea is
Speaker 1: to so just walk out technology is what they're calling it.
Speaker 1: They put up signs in forming people more than a
Speaker 1: year after the law went into effect. But it's like
Speaker 1: using biometrics and cameras to basically track people, like recognize
Speaker 1: them when they walk in, and then they can walk
Speaker 1: out with the stuff and you have paid for it. Essentially,
Speaker 1: they'll just like charge your account. And the whole idea
Speaker 1: here is that it's to reduce they call human interactions
Speaker 1: like friction. Like their goal is to completely turn us
Speaker 1: into autonomous consumption machines. And there's no good way to
Speaker 1: monetize like human interaction, and in fact, it makes the
Speaker 1: purchase the purchases move slower. So they're just trying to
Speaker 1: design a skinner box maze that is like lonelier and
Speaker 1: more focused on the efficiency of like getting the thing
Speaker 1: you want and leaving, which in the moment feels good,
Speaker 1: like they like you. You want to be able to
Speaker 1: skip the line in the moment, right, But at the
Speaker 1: same time, like I just feel like we're building towards
Speaker 1: like we're seeing you know, people's responses on like metrics
Speaker 1: of loneliness, and you know, we're seeing things like deaths
Speaker 1: of despair go through the roof as we get more
Speaker 1: and more just like funneled into these little individualized consumption
Speaker 1: boxes where we're like okay, and then I like use
Speaker 1: my phone to order the food it gets dropped off
Speaker 1: on my porch, and then I go into the store
Speaker 1: and don't talk to anyone. I just you know, keep
Speaker 1: keep my eyes in on me, get the stuff I want,
Speaker 1: and then walk out and like that. That's the old
Speaker 1: that's their ultimate goal here, And I think it's kind
Speaker 1: of in line with what our instincts tell us we
Speaker 1: want in the moment, but what overall is probably going
Speaker 1: to be bad for us. Yeah. I think it's the
Speaker 1: same concept as like the checkout lines, where there's a
Speaker 1: primary like directive for it, and then there's a secondary
Speaker 1: I think layer to it. Well, they'll use it to
Speaker 1: victimize themselves, to be like we tried to make it
Speaker 1: more convenient for you guys, but you just keep like,
Speaker 1: you know, stealing from us because we made it too
Speaker 1: easy to steal from us, and we trusted you, And
Speaker 1: I just I don't like how they use this technology
Speaker 1: as a way to claim it's easier for us, and
Speaker 1: then I feel like there's a twofold reason for doing it.
Speaker 1: It might seem good in the short term for them,
Speaker 1: but then they can also use these friction lists interactions
Speaker 1: as a way to see like, well, our customers are
Speaker 1: taking advantage of us somehow, so let's tighten the belt
Speaker 1: or like you know, that's that's monitor them even more
Speaker 1: and it's they're overreaching. They always have been, but it's
Speaker 1: getting like really scary and invasive too. Yeah. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think it doesn't help that they hit it, you know,
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing where it doesn't garner trust when
Speaker 1: your first instinct was to not tell anyone about it,
Speaker 1: because what's the use of like what? I think you're right, like,
Speaker 1: there is a lot of reason to have it. And
Speaker 1: if they were like, oh, the way that this technology
Speaker 1: works is we you know, we're able to track your
Speaker 1: face and da da da. You know you would know,
Speaker 1: but you inherently know that people are able to do
Speaker 1: the mental math to be like, oh, but to do
Speaker 1: that the thing, and they're still denying it. They're like, no,
Speaker 1: we're not using facial recognition technology. Only shoppers who choose
Speaker 1: to enroll an Amazon One and choose to be identified
Speaker 1: by hovering their palm over the Amazon One device have
Speaker 1: their palm by metric data securely collected and these individuals
Speaker 1: are provided the appropriate privacy just I think that's how
Speaker 1: it is in most places. But I know they're experimenting
Speaker 1: with the facial recognition ship, like they've had like test
Speaker 1: cases where people are like, I just walked in and
Speaker 1: walked out with the ship and they were they charged me.
Speaker 1: So yeah. And also it's the thing where it's like
Speaker 1: you can say that you're not, but it's like the
Speaker 1: facial you're saying that. In fact, the facial recognition software
Speaker 1: is there. So it's not like that automatically turns off
Speaker 1: if I don't sign up for your do hicky app.
Speaker 1: It's not like that my face isn't being tracked, because
Speaker 1: for that to work, my face has to be tracked,
Speaker 1: like not in the sense that you're trying to track me,
Speaker 1: but you need to track me to discern me from
Speaker 1: the ones who did sign up. So in some way,
Speaker 1: shape or form, that would mean that you have my
Speaker 1: face in your in your database. And we've also seen
Speaker 1: time and time again how easy it is for that
Speaker 1: to immediately turn into oh. And then also the cops
Speaker 1: are now able to subpoena this from PS that's that's
Speaker 1: the truly scary part. And they're not going to tell
Speaker 1: you that they're doing that either. And it reminds me
Speaker 1: of like that that James Dolan story about him monitoring
Speaker 1: people who came into the venues he owned with facial
Speaker 1: recognition technology. And we're going to see this story a
Speaker 1: lot more. Like I'm sure there's going to be a
Speaker 1: story about Elon Musk using, you know, biometric scanners to
Speaker 1: monitor his ex girlfriends or something like that. Like it's
Speaker 1: this is gonna come up. Oh, don't don't get me started.
Speaker 1: I have I do own a Tesla model. Why and
Speaker 1: what's wild about that? And I didn't even know. But
Speaker 1: for the longest, you know, from the inception of this car,
Speaker 1: they've put a cabin camera where like it's it's like
Speaker 1: right where your rear view mirror would be, but there's
Speaker 1: a small circle and there's been a cabin camera there.
Speaker 1: They don't I didn't know. It isn't overtly anywhere, and
Speaker 1: I would because I when I was waiting for the
Speaker 1: car and I was excited. I was looking at all
Speaker 1: the features and stuff, and it wasn't until they just did, like, oh,
Speaker 1: to update for the self driving feature. No. First they
Speaker 1: were like, in this update, we are you can give
Speaker 1: us permission to upload the cabin the cabin camera. And
Speaker 1: I was like cabin camera and I look up and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, there's been a camera in my
Speaker 1: car this whole time that looks in and sees me driving.
Speaker 1: And then they added the like self driving, which like
Speaker 1: it's self driving is is such a headache because like
Speaker 1: I get all sides of it right where it's like
Speaker 1: you got the people who aren't self driving, and they
Speaker 1: and they don't want to be on the road with
Speaker 1: these essentially a beta experiment with this, right. But then
Speaker 1: so they're trying to cover their tracks. Why They're like, well,
Speaker 1: with self driving, you have to have hands on the
Speaker 1: wheel looking at the road and all that. And it
Speaker 1: was like, well, then why am I using this? Obviously
Speaker 1: if I want self driving it so I can do
Speaker 1: other things other than driving, Like no one wants to
Speaker 1: be if my hands are on the wheels and here's there,
Speaker 1: Why am I just not driving like that's just drive
Speaker 1: like you are self driving, sure, but I'm I'm driving
Speaker 1: obviously I want to like answer emails and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And now and now they have the cabin camera, so
Speaker 1: that if you're not looking at the road, if you're
Speaker 1: not facing forward, it's gonna be like, hey, you're not
Speaker 1: looking at the road, and after I warned you a
Speaker 1: couple of times, it'll shut it off and then you
Speaker 1: can't use it. And then if it shuts off like
Speaker 1: that five times, you get it revoked, which also is
Speaker 1: going to put it in iffy territory because for people
Speaker 1: like me who pay for the self driving where it's
Speaker 1: like you pay ten brand for this extra feature that
Speaker 1: now can be ripped for you if you don't follow
Speaker 1: these rules. Mind you new rules that they have just
Speaker 1: been implemented, like they added. So I'm like this, this
Speaker 1: feels like if the territory, but I'm sure when you
Speaker 1: signed it for the car there was some thing that
Speaker 1: says like, you know, you have to follow these rules,
Speaker 1: no matter future future rules, and Bullfield like yeah, and
Speaker 1: if the territory is what you call your house, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: you're also your debut album. Yeah yeah, if you're territory,
Speaker 1: uh yeah. So it's so it's very interesting to see
Speaker 1: how we're going to go. And I think the the
Speaker 1: steps would have been internally beta testing, passing tests, going
Speaker 1: to the Department of Transposition Transportation getting it very vetted.
Speaker 1: But everything is moving at light speed and there's just
Speaker 1: so much issue. But honestly, like everyone's like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be on a car on the road with
Speaker 1: a Tesla drive, I was like, actually, I think I
Speaker 1: want more people auto driving because y'all can't drive. Like
Speaker 1: everyone's I don't want to be honest like, no, you
Speaker 1: can't drive. I've seen you. I've been on the road
Speaker 1: with you. You cannot drive. You can blame the Tesla
Speaker 1: all you want, but before there was Tesla's on the road,
Speaker 1: you were still driving bad, and now you know you
Speaker 1: have something to blame. Instead of being like, no, I've
Speaker 1: saw I've saw two cars flipped over in the past
Speaker 1: two days and none of them were Teslas. Y'all can't drive.
Speaker 1: Stop trying to blame like the look, I'm not Elon sucks.
Speaker 1: I'm not the Tesla drivers. We drive bad too, but
Speaker 1: you drive. It's not them or us. We all drive
Speaker 1: in bad out here. So let's get the technology that
Speaker 1: lets us all just get traveled around like trains, so
Speaker 1: we're not fucking up our day but causing an accident
Speaker 1: on the four oh five that's gonna make a thirty
Speaker 1: minute trip three hours. Yeah, Elon Musk is allowed to
Speaker 1: watch your cabin camera footage and jerk off. I think
Speaker 1: I think about that often because every time I'm mad
Speaker 1: at him, I do look at the camera and say
Speaker 1: fuck you, which is daily, so you know, I wonder
Speaker 1: because you know, all of the stuff is over the
Speaker 1: air updates, so like they're like, I do wonder if
Speaker 1: there's just one. He is the type of person to
Speaker 1: be so petty that we won't start. Yes, you said
Speaker 1: something mean about me on Twitter. Yes, I'm sure you
Speaker 1: pay some assistant to aggregate all of the people who
Speaker 1: said some shit about him and then fox with their
Speaker 1: teslas if they bought one. Yeah. Yeah, he's got too
Speaker 1: much power. I mean James Dolan like picked some person
Speaker 1: who insulted him years before, was that a Rockets show
Speaker 1: and with her kids and like was forcibly removed from
Speaker 1: the premises and had to like wait outside while her
Speaker 1: kids were like finishing the show because of facial recognition technology.
Speaker 1: So he said he didn't do it. So this is
Speaker 1: another example of people like doing this and being like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: not me. Yeah, just more and more like brittle billionaire egos,
Speaker 1: like with more and more powerful technology is going probably
Speaker 1: not a good path to be on, but well we'll
Speaker 1: see it coming. Yeah, I know, good luck to us.
Speaker 1: I mean with the self driving ship. Like six years ago,
Speaker 1: they released a viral video where a car like drives
Speaker 1: a long distance and they like did the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and we're like there was a person in the driver
Speaker 1: receipt purely for legal reasons, they didn't touch it. And
Speaker 1: then like it turns out we just found out this
Speaker 1: year they were lying about that they had like preprogrammed
Speaker 1: the entire route, like it it was not what they
Speaker 1: were claiming it to be. But yeah, they're they're just
Speaker 1: out in front of it. Like that's that's the thing
Speaker 1: is Like if they were doing things the way that
Speaker 1: you were describing, where it's like they get the Department
Speaker 1: of Transportation on board. The Department of Transportation was not
Speaker 1: basically just scared of every industry and every billionaire and
Speaker 1: actually like did their job of like protecting people and
Speaker 1: you know, overseeing train monopolies and shit, Like we might
Speaker 1: be in okay shape, but like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: With with things the way they are, I just feel
Speaker 1: like they're they're going to be like accidents. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they'll be at the same rate as like
Speaker 1: the accidents people will be causing on their own, but
Speaker 1: then there will be like, Okay, there's a beta update
Speaker 1: to address that, and it'll just be very like haphazard.
Speaker 1: There's something unnerving about the whole thing. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see where the counter culture go, Like the
Speaker 1: counter movement comes for that, because I've seen a few
Speaker 1: things where there's like this fashion movement of certain garments
Speaker 1: like hoodies or whatever that like scramble facial recognition technology
Speaker 1: and things like that, and I find that fascinating. There's
Speaker 1: gonna be two sides of the coin here, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna spread farther and farther out from each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks cool. I love it in theory, but I
Speaker 1: feel like time and again in America, we keep being like, man,
Speaker 1: what's the art? What's the response to Trump gonna be?
Speaker 1: What's gonna And it's like people are just too busy
Speaker 1: working so that they can have healthcare to like unless
Speaker 1: things like shut down with the pandemic like that, people
Speaker 1: like don't have the time to scramble together a resistance yeah,
Speaker 1: so I mean, but yeah, it would be dope if
Speaker 1: like everybody got together and said fuck the billionaires. And
Speaker 1: I think there are cool examples of that that will
Speaker 1: highlight in days and years to come for sure. All Right,
Speaker 1: well let's take a quick break and then we'll talk
Speaker 1: about how brands are the new movie protect We'll be
Speaker 1: right back, and we're back, and when it rains, it pours.
Speaker 1: We've been highlighting, you know, the Air Jordan origin stories
Speaker 1: coming out. There was a BlackBerry origin story trailer that
Speaker 1: dropped earlier last week that actually looked fun. People seem
Speaker 1: like on board with this Tetris one. It's, you know,
Speaker 1: a very cool story. So like that this seems to
Speaker 1: be not just a couple isolated incidents. But like you know,
Speaker 1: we've been saying, like it makes sense that brands would
Speaker 1: be the new movie protagonists. They're like what we're going
Speaker 1: to have in so superhero movies because or you know
Speaker 1: what we have instead of like the royals that Shakespeare
Speaker 1: wrote about, we have brands because brands, actually corporations are
Speaker 1: the thing that makes all the decisions that rule us,
Speaker 1: which is why like succession is popular. It's like these
Speaker 1: are the things that control our lives. They're American dynasties. Yes.
Speaker 1: And so with all of that said, news of the
Speaker 1: latest one. We knew, we had heard that this was
Speaker 1: in the works early on, but they actually just premiered
Speaker 1: the Flame and Hot Cheetos origin story at south By
Speaker 1: Southwest and people seem to be on board. People are like,
Speaker 1: it's actually really fun, y'all. Yeah, sorry, which is also
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing about Air and what I'm here about
Speaker 1: the BlackBerry movie and the Techers movie. It's like that, sorry,
Speaker 1: this is just who we are unfortunately, Like this is that,
Speaker 1: this is what a good movie is now. And yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I liked the social network. I mean I
Speaker 1: think I think it makes sense. You know, we are this,
Speaker 1: uh we were we're so consumed by brands now right
Speaker 1: because we're like locked in on the on the Internet.
Speaker 1: And I think some good can come from, uh, from
Speaker 1: movies like this, like Air and so where you kind
Speaker 1: of dehumanize the brand, where you're like, no, this is
Speaker 1: an idea made up of people, and these are the
Speaker 1: people behind it. Because there's this weirdness when you see
Speaker 1: brands of social media and like the brand managers running
Speaker 1: the account and doing memes that it gives these brands
Speaker 1: a personality person yeah, And I feel like movies like
Speaker 1: these can actually work against that hopefully and be like Nope,
Speaker 1: this is a company and this is the people behind it.
Speaker 1: And I think Social Network is a great idea because
Speaker 1: I feel like that movie was the downfall of the
Speaker 1: like making you know, Mark Zuckerberg seem cool. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like that once that movie came out, people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: he is kind of a dick and he hasn't It
Speaker 1: made me seem more charismatic than he really is, because
Speaker 1: Jesse Eisenberg is like the actor who's very charismatic on screen.
Speaker 1: But it also was like, yeah, but like what this
Speaker 1: dude decided ultimately to do was big and vast and
Speaker 1: fucked up, like real fucked up and not you know,
Speaker 1: not something that he probably wanted to approve. Like that's
Speaker 1: you know, I think best case scenario. It gives us
Speaker 1: more insights like that worst case scenario, though, we're like
Speaker 1: getting to see these people making corporate decisions and like
Speaker 1: they're being like made into heroes, while like the things
Speaker 1: that make those corporate decisions possible is like you know,
Speaker 1: grinding lower paid workers to you know, and just you know,
Speaker 1: people being threatened with starvation and lack of healthcare. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean work around the clock. Yeah, and I'm actually
Speaker 1: here for this, like we're are you alluded to this
Speaker 1: earlier Jack about there's like a big allegedly caveat with
Speaker 1: the origin story about the full truthfulness of it or not,
Speaker 1: And actually we should just talk about that before I
Speaker 1: give my point about sure. Yeah, So this movie, the
Speaker 1: Flame and Hot Cheetos movie, is the story of a
Speaker 1: somebody who I think was like framed as a custodian
Speaker 1: in the original origin story who worked for Freedo Lay
Speaker 1: and was just like a big fan of their work
Speaker 1: and was also, you know, a tinkerer, had a little
Speaker 1: shed in his backyard. So Richard Montanez is his name,
Speaker 1: and he basically tells the story that he, you know,
Speaker 1: worked for Friedo Lay in like custodial capacity or it
Speaker 1: was like, you know, a lower level work or I
Speaker 1: think it was first pitched as like he was a
Speaker 1: custodian and then tinkered with these flavors like putting elote
Speaker 1: like Mexican you know, the Mexican street food of elote,
Speaker 1: of like grilled corn with lime and chili and he
Speaker 1: was like, what if we put those spices on Cheetos,
Speaker 1: like what like these would be good? And then like
Speaker 1: it was so good that he then like brought it
Speaker 1: to the Friedo Lay CEO at the time, Roger Enrico,
Speaker 1: and he was like, this is brilliant and flaming hot
Speaker 1: Cheetos was born. Except for the fact that Friedo La
Speaker 1: claims like none of that is true, and I still
Speaker 1: don't know like where I fall on this, Like somebody
Speaker 1: want to see somebody to do like a real deep
Speaker 1: dive into yeah, what part of it is true? Because obviously,
Speaker 1: like Friedo Lay is not going to want to be
Speaker 1: overshadowed or also like legally liable to like pay this
Speaker 1: person more than what they have already paid. So they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, actually it was it was being test marketed
Speaker 1: already when he claims to have come up with this
Speaker 1: idea and just like real like their story seems to
Speaker 1: want it both ways. They're like, we came up with
Speaker 1: this idea and it's a very boring story of like
Speaker 1: test kitchens and marketing and and none of his thing
Speaker 1: is true, but we love him and we're here to
Speaker 1: celebrate Richard and he contributed in some way, but not
Speaker 1: a way that's legally liable to us, Like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: actually here for this, like because you know how many
Speaker 1: examples of whitewashing do we have where we find out
Speaker 1: the person who really invented something was from a marginalized
Speaker 1: community while some landowning white man claimed all the credit.
Speaker 1: So so, and also to their credit they're even willing
Speaker 1: to I guess they added in lines where they poke fun,
Speaker 1: like a narrative, lines where they poked fun at this
Speaker 1: maybe not being all the way true necessarily, which is
Speaker 1: much more than my history books ever did. So I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, this is a good Like you know,
Speaker 1: if sure fictionalized more origin stories of companies or take
Speaker 1: all the white people out of it, put more black
Speaker 1: and brown people and people of color in there, people
Speaker 1: from marginalized communities, and say they did it, and I
Speaker 1: don't care if it's a lie. I like the representation.
Speaker 1: It's more than what we've had before. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like seeing this. Yeah no, I I yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: always wary of companies being like, no, that's not true.
Speaker 1: We were doing the test kitchen. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: who is the head chef? Who was it because it
Speaker 1: was a white person, then its story still stands because
Speaker 1: a white person like pull that from his culture, you know,
Speaker 1: where it's like it's like the cool shows the receipts,
Speaker 1: because you know, usually that's how they response guy's idea
Speaker 1: of mayonnaise cheetos. Yeah, instead they're like, take my word
Speaker 1: for it, please, how about we dump the cheetos and milk.
Speaker 1: I'm just a little worried that these cheetos are gonna
Speaker 1: be too spicy and they're gonna cause people to masturbate,
Speaker 1: which was that that's one, so we'll get to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's where corn flakes came from, was them being like,
Speaker 1: we need to create a food so bland that it
Speaker 1: will make kids stop jerking on. But yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a mess. But like this is apparently a messy,
Speaker 1: fun movie that like relishes in certain exaggerations. It's less
Speaker 1: the founder and more like it's got some adaptation like
Speaker 1: vibes to it where you don't know really what to believe,
Speaker 1: but it's it's a little bit fun and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm happy with that. Yeah, this seems like a fun
Speaker 1: way to approach that and apparently a longoria doing a
Speaker 1: doing some good work and her directorial debut, So that's
Speaker 1: that's exciting. Yeah, and and these movies can be fun.
Speaker 1: We already pointed out, like, you know, the Mighty Ducks.
Speaker 1: I had fun with that when I was a child.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what you know, It's it's more about
Speaker 1: like team and stuff, but there's branding all over that shit.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Mighty Ducks, Angels in the Outfield, of course,
Speaker 1: the true story behind the formation of the California Angels
Speaker 1: baseball team. But I mean, like there is a pretty
Speaker 1: good track record with these movies, like Moneyball, I would
Speaker 1: put in this category because it's like telling the purported
Speaker 1: true story behind like the Oakland A's like like relevance.
Speaker 1: They didn't even win anything, but they were like relevant
Speaker 1: for a period of time when they had a very
Speaker 1: low payroll social network. Ford versus Ferrari was I think
Speaker 1: the most recent example of this that was like Oscar
Speaker 1: nominated the Founder Steve Jobs and all the Steve Jobs
Speaker 1: movies like that, the genre of Steve Jobs movies becoming, yeah,
Speaker 1: its own thing. So that leads me to the question of,
Speaker 1: like we already pitched lunchables, like the Lunchable story told
Speaker 1: from the perspective of because that was like Oscar Meyer
Speaker 1: was like, nobody wants to eat hot dogs and bologna anymore,
Speaker 1: what do we do? And they invented lunchables and became
Speaker 1: it became like one of the most profitable thing in foods,
Speaker 1: but also gave a bunch of people horrible health issues
Speaker 1: because it's one of the least healthy foods ever pawned
Speaker 1: off like sold two children. But I could definitely see, like,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised that I haven't already heard about
Speaker 1: a Coca Cola origin story movie like that. They must
Speaker 1: just be being very precious with that. But the origin
Speaker 1: story of Coca Cola is like has to be the
Speaker 1: holy grail of these movies because it was invented by
Speaker 1: a heroine or like morphine addict who like veteran of
Speaker 1: the Civil War, where everybody came out of that war
Speaker 1: addicted to morphine because they were all, you know, shot
Speaker 1: up and in so much pain. I can I can
Speaker 1: imagine maybe Coca Cola doesn't want to be associated with
Speaker 1: the breaking bad type character, but I think they should
Speaker 1: poke fun at them. They would have so much respect
Speaker 1: for them if they did it. Yeah, yeah, and like
Speaker 1: so at that time, one of the treatments for morphet
Speaker 1: addiction was cocaine. They're like, try this, this healthy drug.
Speaker 1: And that's where he found out about cocaine and how
Speaker 1: he started putting it in his beverage and just you know,
Speaker 1: the immediate out of control popularity of coca cola because
Speaker 1: it had cocaine and it people were like, give me a,
Speaker 1: give me a. I think they would call it a
Speaker 1: dope at the time, and it would be like three
Speaker 1: times stronger than it was meant to be. They would
Speaker 1: just like put extra extra syrup in it, and people
Speaker 1: would just run around high out of their mind. It's
Speaker 1: the most American thing that's ever happened, like the whole
Speaker 1: pulling yourself up from your bootstraps capitalism drug induced many
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta love it. Yeah, somebody like this
Speaker 1: might need to be its own like long running HBO
Speaker 1: series or something, because there's there's a lot of story there. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: And then Elon Musk of course, like the Elon Musk
Speaker 1: movies probably you know, fifteen twenty years from now are
Speaker 1: going to be coming twenty twenty four, relentlessly coming in. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's shopping it around right now. I also, and on
Speaker 1: a serious note, I did we I pitched the Patagonia
Speaker 1: movie at the beginning of the record session just because, like,
Speaker 1: that guy has an interesting legacy. I'm not fully immersed
Speaker 1: in everything that happened there. I just know some people
Speaker 1: in the area that he took over in Chile. He
Speaker 1: bought a lot of property with the intention of preserving
Speaker 1: this area and making it pristine. And but you know,
Speaker 1: the guy who owned it was, you know, this rich
Speaker 1: white guy who was buying land in a country with
Speaker 1: indigenous folks who were skeptical of him. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff there. There's environmentalism, there's activism, there's capitalism,
Speaker 1: there's adventure. Because that guy was going all around. I
Speaker 1: keep saying that guy because I don't know his name,
Speaker 1: but um, you know, he was climbing mountains, he was kayaking.
Speaker 1: There's a whole like fantastical like Yellowstone type of movie
Speaker 1: in there somewhere. Yeah, he left the company to the employees,
Speaker 1: I thought, or at least yeah or something doing that,
Speaker 1: and then he died tragically while he was like he
Speaker 1: would think he was kayaking on a river and drowned
Speaker 1: or something. But yeah, it's a fascinating story there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: how about you if if he any like pitches for brands,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's got to be some good like the
Speaker 1: invention of the I want the Mountain Dew story. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we messed it. There's Mountain ale to X games, you know,
Speaker 1: and it'll be like it'll be like a like a
Speaker 1: like a triple X action extreme sports, you know, from
Speaker 1: Moonshine to kick Flips I love, yeah, like the Moonshiners.
Speaker 1: I mean that this is actually the origin of NASCAR
Speaker 1: people running Moonshine around in those cars that looked like
Speaker 1: that in evading the police. So I mean NASCAR and
Speaker 1: Mountain Dew could have a great yeah yeah, oh hell
Speaker 1: yeah that sounds amazing. Green lighted Hollywood, take our idea.
Speaker 1: There you go, you know. And also this is a
Speaker 1: very uh a a very specific an extremely specific like
Speaker 1: point of of hitting this up. But there was a
Speaker 1: thing where there was this company called Chatters in Utah
Speaker 1: and it was basically a bootleg in and Out because
Speaker 1: at the time, In and Out only was in California
Speaker 1: and I think Las Vegas those were the like it was.
Speaker 1: It was being like we're a California restaurant, and so
Speaker 1: they made the bootleg Chatters and In and outsooed them.
Speaker 1: I think they try. I had to have the defense
Speaker 1: of like, well, in and Out only exists in California,
Speaker 1: and so in and Out basically made an in and
Speaker 1: out in Utah after that case. And now that there's
Speaker 1: one in and Out that's in Utah because of this Chatters.
Speaker 1: So it's like instead of the founder, it's like the
Speaker 1: origin story of McDowell's. Yeah, it's like version. If you
Speaker 1: build it, they would come type by. That sounds incredible,
Speaker 1: and Utah is fascinating, like just all the all the
Speaker 1: weird culture that that pops up there, floating soda shops
Speaker 1: from food too. Yeah, amazing. Well, if he as always
Speaker 1: truly a pleasure of having you on the daily zeitgeist.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 1: You find me if you wad away on Twitter and
Speaker 1: Instagram and that's where you'll be locked in on all
Speaker 1: the things I'm up to. Yeah. Yeah, And is there
Speaker 1: a tweet or work of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have to load it up right there.
Speaker 1: It's a you know, I'll describe it for the listener
Speaker 1: at home, which is gonna be you know, interesting if
Speaker 1: you've not familiar with the game. But it's a picture
Speaker 1: of my alert from the Fallout series, which are these
Speaker 1: large kind of crab human norm things, and the tweet
Speaker 1: just says they be eaten shit like this in Louisiana.
Speaker 1: And the first time I saw it, I laughed for
Speaker 1: thirty minutes straight. And then you keep laughing as you
Speaker 1: scroll down the replies, and there's a bunch of Louisiana
Speaker 1: ins being like yeah and like like not even deflecting,
Speaker 1: not denying the accusations. They're like, yes, we would fry
Speaker 1: that shit up. Yeah, just the crawdads, the yeah, the
Speaker 1: little things they yeah, crawling, they pull some wild looking,
Speaker 1: bug looking shit out of the mud and make it delicious. Yea.
Speaker 1: I sent it to my sister just to see, you know,
Speaker 1: because mom's side off New Orleans, so you know, we
Speaker 1: raised on that type beat. And she said, lameo, that
Speaker 1: little than a lang be the best part two, Like
Speaker 1: they've already figured out the parts that would taste good,
Speaker 1: Like that's how far people in Louisiana are. Deep in
Speaker 1: the shellfish and sea booty. They're like, we know what
Speaker 1: parts of this is going to be good? Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Justin where can people find you? Is there a work
Speaker 1: of media you've been enjoying? You can find me at
Speaker 1: Jacon the Smith on Instagram and Instagram only that's j
Speaker 1: C O N t H E S M I T
Speaker 1: H and um. I don't. I don't really have that
Speaker 1: much content that I follow, but I do like this
Speaker 1: photographer out of New York who I'm sure many of
Speaker 1: the Sight Gang is already following because he's literally got
Speaker 1: a million followers. He goes by New York Nico online
Speaker 1: on Instagram. He's just got a lot of wholesome, just
Speaker 1: slice of life takes from New York where he's just
Speaker 1: aiming his camera at interesting people. He calls himself the
Speaker 1: unofficial Talent Scout of New York City. Just vignettes of
Speaker 1: beautiful people showing themselves to you and sharing their experience.
Speaker 1: So you can find New York Nico on Instagram. Oh right,
Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. Brian
Speaker 1: tweet I've been enjoying well. First of all, Emma Tolkien tweeted.
Speaker 1: Mark Strong is Stanley Tucci's warrior. I did I have
Speaker 1: been going through my life thinking Mark Strong was Stanley Tucci.
Speaker 1: Like I was just like, there goes Tucci again in
Speaker 1: another because oh you know what, Yeah, I didn't know
Speaker 1: this guy by name, but yeah, I can see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that was they were the same. They just
Speaker 1: have the shape of the bald head, the glasses, the
Speaker 1: chin shape. Yeah. Yeah. And then Vaccoon on Twitter tweeted
Speaker 1: a picture of the part and Man of Steel twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: ten year old movie. But at least this observation, I'll
Speaker 1: never get tired of people pointing this out. Kevin Costner
Speaker 1: plays Clark Kent's dad, and it is, I believe the
Speaker 1: midpoint of the movie, he just gets like devoured by
Speaker 1: a tornado that Superman like clearly could have saved him
Speaker 1: from if he was like willing to use his superpowers,
Speaker 1: but like doesn't because he wants to like stay in
Speaker 1: the closet as a superhero or like that's his dad's theory,
Speaker 1: because his dad's like, there's a tornado it's about to
Speaker 1: just like swallow him. Hole. It doesn't stop him. He
Speaker 1: puts up his hand in his like and so back
Speaker 1: when like tweeted a screen cap of that and said Clark, No,
Speaker 1: I deserve the cold embrace of the grave. Use your
Speaker 1: heightened senses to stand there and listen to reshred my body.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that one son? That was a fence post?
Speaker 1: It just went clear through my stomach and yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Oh God got a loose. Superhero movies, got
Speaker 1: to love them well. Soon enough they will be replaced
Speaker 1: by branding the invention of Cool Ranch Derito's movies. Hell, yeah, multiple,
Speaker 1: they'll have multiple of those. It'll be like Armageddon and
Speaker 1: Deep Impact Flavor. Yeah, multiple Cool Ranch origin story movies
Speaker 1: coming out in the same month. Anyways. You can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack underscorel Brian. You can find
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Speaker 1: episodes and our foot no link off to the information
Speaker 1: that we talked about in today is episode as well
Speaker 1: as a song that we think you might enjoy and
Speaker 1: super producer Justin Connor, what is a song that you
Speaker 1: think people might enjoy? I think I only have a
Speaker 1: few more times to recommend tracks as we have looted
Speaker 1: two Miles may pop his head up here one of
Speaker 1: these coming weeks. We don't know, So I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be here for Wednesday's recording either, so I kind
Speaker 1: of want to make these last few songs count. So
Speaker 1: this is one of my favorite songs I used to
Speaker 1: play when I was djaying a lot, and this song
Speaker 1: is an Italian trap song that I believe is about
Speaker 1: uh receiving toppy, as the kids might say. You know,
Speaker 1: google translate to get the okay. I've a friend who's
Speaker 1: Sicilian and heard the lyrics and she was like, what
Speaker 1: was it? And so you know it's it's about getting
Speaker 1: the old, the old moist mouth, I think, But I
Speaker 1: don't speak Italian, so I'm not sure. But if anyone
Speaker 1: it is, it is, I had to do it. Um.
Speaker 1: Anyone in the Zeit gang who does speak Italian, please
Speaker 1: give me a rundown to what this guy is saying
Speaker 1: because sounds freaky. Um. Also, if you have a sound system,
Speaker 1: I highly suggest calibrating everything to where it needs to
Speaker 1: be and letting this ship bank because it has a
Speaker 1: low deep end. Um. But this is super CALLI Frigida
Speaker 1: by the Clerk and Moodembi and you can find that
Speaker 1: song in the footnotes Footnotes. The Daily zet Guys is
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