1 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now. 2 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: That Senator Schumer should not be worried about a primary 3 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: challenge from you. 4 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: No, let me. 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 4: This is talking about I have a country that is 6 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 4: falling apart. 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: I think it's a good idea to give a trillion 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 3: dollars and tax breaks for the richest people in the 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: country and then make massive cuts to healthcare for working 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: class people. 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 5: I think Chuck Human has voted for continuing the Resolutions 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 5: thirteen times in the last four years, and he has 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 5: the opportunity to vote for one again, but he's refusing 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 5: to come to the table. 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 6: I take a book, I. 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 7: Don't accept, I'll use I don't accept pinky promises. That's 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 7: not the business that I'm in. 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So you need signature from President Absolute in. 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 8: Order to vote to reopen the government. Correct. 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 9: It sounded like a majority of the justices are leaning 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 9: toward embracing some form of that argument, which would essentially 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 9: dismantle the Voting Right so Act as we know it today. 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 9: All six of them seem to be leaning towards some 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 9: kind of results that would radically weaken, if not altogether demolish, 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 9: what we know of the Voting Rights Acts. 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 10: Sect. So we are responding to current day manifestations of 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 10: past and present decisions that disadvantage minorities and make it 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 10: so that they don't have equal access to the voting 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 10: system right they're disabled. 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 8: In fact, we use the word disabled. 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 11: Cook County Circuit Chief Judge Timothy Evans's barring civil arrests 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 11: of people when they are at county courts. Evan said 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 11: in a statement, quote, access to justice depends on every 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 11: individual's ability to appear in court without fear or obstruction. 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 11: Our courthouses remain places where all people, regardless of their 36 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 11: background or circumstance, should be able to safely and confidently 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 11: participate in the judicial process. 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 12: We certainly step zero in the Robinson litigation is the 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 12: plaintiffs came in and said we want another majority black district. 40 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 10: I thought they came in and said we are not 41 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 10: receiving equal electoral opportunity because our votes are being diluted. 42 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 13: Which is the same way of saying. 43 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 10: We deserve a No, it's not because that again, just 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 10: trust me on this. The second electoral or second district 45 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 10: is a remedy that one could offer for a problem 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 10: that we've identified. 47 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 12: In the state of Louisiana. 48 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 5: That analysis was conducted in the narn case and it 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 5: was clear that, regardless of party, white Democrats were not 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 5: voting for black candidates, whether they were Democrats or not. 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 14: Why does Republican messaging on social media seem so much 52 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 14: more effective than democratic messaging and what can we do 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 14: about it? 54 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 15: Well, that's a great question. 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: I think the Republicans are They have learned a lot 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: about social media, and by the way, it doesn't hurt 57 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: that they are friends on all of the major social media. 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 7: Platform and they are able to radicalize and target and 59 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 7: exploit a generation of young boys, in particular, away from 60 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 7: healthy masculinity and into an insecure masculinity that requires the 61 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 7: domination of others who are poorer, browner, darker, or a 62 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 7: different gender than them. 63 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: Do you think undocumented immigrants should have access to federally. 64 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 7: You know, I believe personally that healthcare is a human right. 65 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 7: I believe that every person should be able to go 66 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 7: to the doctor. 67 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: Do you believe that that should be changed? Pardon if 68 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: you could choose. Do you believe that the federal law 69 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 2: should be changed? 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 16: I don't know. 71 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 7: I believe in a single payer health care system where 72 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 7: if you go in and you need a doctor. You 73 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 7: can get the medical attention that you need. 74 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong about the ceasefire and Gaza. Do you 75 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: believe President Trump deserves credit for that? 76 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 7: Well, you know, I find these There have been several 77 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 7: ceasefire announcements and developments that have happened over the past 78 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 7: two years. As President Trump was on the plane back 79 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 7: the United States, there's already indications and questions about whether 80 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 7: this ceasefire will hold. 81 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 8: Do you give him credit? 82 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: Do you give him credit though we're getting to this 83 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: point where it did get those twenty hostages back home 84 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: with their families. 85 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 7: In this particular development, Yes, but we also know that 86 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 7: President Trump was an obstacle to peace. 87 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 4: Previously, Mark Bray was denounced by the president of Dartmouth 88 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 4: University because of his embrace of violence. He said, if 89 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 4: you label someone a white supremacist, if you label someone 90 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 4: a fascist, then he endorses violence against them. 91 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 13: I would just say this to Rutgers. 92 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: I spoke with Turning Point Headquarters earlier tonight. We stand 93 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: by our chapter. We will defend our. 94 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 15: Chapter every day. 95 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 17: There's a battle for your mind, raging information coming from 96 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 17: every angle, but the will to deceive fear not. You 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 17: found the place for truth, the voice of a generation 98 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 17: that still has the will to believe in the greatest country. 99 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 13: In the history of the world. This is the. 100 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 17: Charlie Kirk Show. 101 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 13: Fuck a lot, here we go on. 102 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. 103 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 12: Is Andrew Covit, executive producer of this fine show, and 104 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 12: I'm joined in studio here in d C. No, we 105 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 12: did not change the set. We're just on location in Washington, 106 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 12: d C. 107 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: And I'm joined by Jack Pisoba. 108 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 13: What's up man? 109 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 12: You know we're we're holding it down here in the 110 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 12: Imperial Capital while Blake is on assignment in Italy. 111 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna doubt him. 112 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 13: Sick. 113 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 4: You can usually tell people you specifically where they are. 114 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 12: Well, in this instance, it's just too cool. I have 115 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 12: to say it. It is pretty cool. He is a 116 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 12: family member that's taken the vows to become an email 117 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 12: which is super based, which is super based. 118 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 13: It's actually Blake, isn't it Blake? 119 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: Jo Blake's joining And there's too many to finally found 120 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: a place for Blake. 121 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 12: Too many trip wires in that minefield you you just 122 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 12: laid for me. So anyways, we are honored to be 123 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 12: with you guys. I just have to say we've gotten 124 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 12: such a tremendous outpouring of just feedback from our show 125 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 12: yesterday that we did from the White House. Truly truly 126 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 12: grateful for all the nice notes and the kind things 127 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 12: you guys have said. We had a tremendous show. We 128 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 12: had James Blair, who's one of the most powerful people 129 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 12: actually in the administration. People don't realize that, but he's 130 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 12: had a like political and policy deputy chief of staff 131 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 12: at the White House that we had. 132 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: Of course JD Vance. We announced that JD. 133 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 12: If you guys want to throw this graphic up, JD 134 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 12: is going to be speaking on campus with Erica Kirk 135 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 12: on October twenty ninth at Ole miss there in Oxford, Mississippi. 136 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 12: Going to be an amazing, amazing event. 137 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 15: Uh. 138 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: And he's said he's just gonna take questions. 139 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: Has a sitting vice president or president ever done something 140 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: like this before? 141 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 12: No, as far as I'm as far as I'm aware. 142 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 18: Can't I mean of anything, but the the the courage 143 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 18: that it takes, as you know, essentially the second most 144 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 18: powerful man in the world to sit in front of 145 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 18: students at a college. 146 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 12: There's gonna be like ten thousand people there taking questions 147 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 12: for probably like an hour. 148 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: Let's just say the. 149 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 13: Man who's a heartbeat away from the chair. 150 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 12: But he's willing to just do that and take questions. 151 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 12: They're gonna be unscripted. It's gonna be I mean, who 152 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 12: does that, right, even the town halls. 153 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: That they do. 154 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 12: You know, on CNN, we can get into AOC and 155 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 12: Bernie did theirs last night, but that was all planned. 156 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 12: It was all planned, and they know which questions are coming. 157 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 12: This is going to be completely raw, and he's willing 158 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 12: to take hard questions from both the left and the right. 159 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 4: So to take that much time out of his schedule, 160 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 4: and with the logistics, with the security, with the pre 161 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 4: planning that has to go in, I mean that it's 162 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: just a testament to how much Charlie meant to JD 163 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: and and how big of an impact that Charlie's legacy 164 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 4: had not on only JD as a person, but really 165 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: on JD's politics. 166 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 13: And JD really has. 167 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: Told the story that Charlie was the one that really 168 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: backed him encouraged him when he was first running for 169 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: Senate and then eventually where he is now, in the 170 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 4: Vice President. 171 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: JD would tell you this as well. 172 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 12: He would not be where he is today as the 173 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 12: sitting Vice President of the United States because he probably 174 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 12: wouldn't have been senator, and then he probably wouldn't have 175 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 12: had so much backing and support from a lot of 176 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 12: people that Charlie helped bring about when he was being 177 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 12: considered for vice president. Charlie really spearheaded that. And then 178 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 12: of course all the efforts at turning point action that 179 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 12: Charlie that you did, Jack to get JD in office, 180 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 12: to get President Trump in office. So I actually we've 181 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 12: both been doing the media rounds Jack, because and it's 182 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 12: we're in DC, we're in the Imperial Capital. 183 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: Might as well make use of it. 184 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 12: I actually went on the with Dana Prino in Bill 185 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 12: Hemmer this morning to talk about the inner that I 186 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 12: had with Jadvance yesterday and to just thank him for 187 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 12: what a tremendous human being he is and for willing 188 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 12: to emulate Charlie's you know, his style, his mission on 189 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 12: campus to actually take the questions play cut two forty three. 190 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: I just want to give. 191 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 12: A huge shout out and hat tip to the Vice president. 192 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 12: You know, people, I don't know how people imagine this working. 193 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 12: But he and Usha have been so just generous, and 194 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 12: they have been the ones offering to help. 195 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: They have been the one saying, hey, we want. 196 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 12: To make sure that Charlie's legacy lives on. 197 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: How can we help, what can we do? 198 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 12: And I just love that the Vice president wants to 199 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 12: honor Charlie by emulating Charlie. 200 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: At these events. 201 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 12: You know, yes, he'll give a few minutes of remarks, 202 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 12: but he wants to interact with the students. And people 203 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 12: need to understand that part of what made Charlie so 204 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 12: amazing is that, yeah, he spoke, but he listened, and 205 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,239 Speaker 12: this is going to give the vice president opportunity to. 206 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 13: Do just that. 207 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 12: So your reaction, Jack, No, it's it's it's huge. 208 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 4: I mean to have the vice president sitting vice president 209 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 4: and I had states, a guy who has been spearheading 210 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 4: and and look, I was in the room the other 211 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 4: day when Marco Rubio and JD. Vance came in coming 212 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 4: getting off of the call with like the Hamas negotiations 213 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 4: and Qatar. And we know that JD Vance has been 214 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: involved in working with wit coffin the Ukraine Russia war, 215 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 4: and so we're in the middle of a government show. 216 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: There's so many things that are going on in DC 217 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 4: that he has on his portfolio, and he's gonna take 218 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: all of this time to honor Charlie and by the way, 219 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 4: to continue the tour that. 220 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 13: The left tried to stop. 221 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 15: Yeah. 222 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's exactly right. 223 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 12: And and JD said in that interview, you know with me, 224 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 12: he said, listen, we're gonna we're gonna each take a 225 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 12: piece of this. And that's because nobody can replace Charlie. 226 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 12: There's nobody's gonna hold a candle to Charlie. As the 227 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 12: Bible said, we are unfit to tie the sandals of Charlie. 228 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 12: But here we are, and we're we're we're tempting to 229 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 12: do our best. We miss him, but we're gonna we're 230 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 12: gonna keep uh, We're going to hold the torch as 231 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 12: best we can. And JD is going to be a 232 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 12: big part of that, and just so grateful to him. 233 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 12: So also, Jack, I played a clip of mine, I'm 234 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 12: going to play a clip of yours, and that is 235 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 12: about this this theme of this rise of left wing violence. 236 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 12: I did a town hall with News Nation last night. 237 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 13: You did, mister viral. Oh, you're definitely you're definitely going 238 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 13: in a bad way. 239 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: Hopefully have I roll on the left. Yeah, we'll say it. 240 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: Well here here's here. 241 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 12: But you actually kind of commented on something similar. Uh again, 242 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 12: another Fox News hit. But by the way, give it 243 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 12: up for Real America's Voice and Salem Radio Network that 244 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 12: carries this show live every day, and for Real America's 245 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 12: Voice that did such great work to set up the shot, 246 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 12: the shoot yesterday, the interviews they did all of that 247 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 12: Parker at the White House, at the White House, We're 248 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 12: so grateful, and the day before at the Treasury Departments, 249 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 12: and nobody could do it like that. Thank you, Thank 250 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 12: you to our rab family. So here's here's Jack Pisobic. 251 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 12: Yesterday evening. Last evening at two sixty two. 252 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 4: Mark Bray was denounced by the president of Dartmouth University 253 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 4: because if it's embrace a violence all the way back 254 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: in twenty seventeen. 255 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 13: He said, if you label someone a. 256 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 4: White supremacist, if you label someone a fascist, then he 257 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: endorses violence against them. 258 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 13: I would just say this to Rutgers. 259 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: I spoke with Turning Point Headquarters earlier tonight. We stand 260 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 4: by our chapter, we will defend our chapter. And if 261 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: the University wants to make an issue of it. They 262 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: can find out how good our lawyers are. 263 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 12: All right, So this is a really big story that's 264 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 12: been bubbling up, and it's kind of hitting a crescendo 265 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 12: right now because I'm being asked about it. 266 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: You're being asked about it. 267 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 12: Mark Bray at rust Rutgers University tell us about Mark Bratt. 268 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 4: So, Mark Bray is doctor Antifa. This is a guy who, 269 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 4: by the way, was run out of Dartmouth years ago, 270 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: back in twenty seventeen because of his support for violence. 271 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 4: And he claims that antifa violence is ethically and morally 272 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 4: justified when it is done against people who he decides 273 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: are white supremacists and fascists. And he wrote a whole 274 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 4: book on this in twenty seventeen, he wrote op eds 275 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 4: about this, he came out, the president of Dartmouth denounced him. 276 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 4: Then of course Rutgers went and gave him this and 277 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 4: by the way, it's a part time teaching position. 278 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 13: Is going to be very clear about that. 279 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: So he came up and has been spreading this hate 280 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 4: and domestic terrorism all throughout his tenure at Rutgers. Well 281 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination. The turning point 282 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 4: chapter on campus was saying, look, this guy has been 283 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 4: here for all this time. He's spreading violence while our 284 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: leader was just taken out. We don't feel safe with 285 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: him on campus. He's creating a harassing and violent, toxic 286 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 4: environment for us, and we would like to see something 287 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 4: done about him. They launch a petition, then he flies 288 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 4: to Spain on the. 289 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 12: Tax Pader die I gotta chime in on this part, 290 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 12: like the flying to Spain part. So, this is a 291 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 12: guy who advocates for preemptive violence, to take down fascist, 292 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 12: to kill fascist. What is a fascist? Fascist to him 293 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 12: is a conservative. So he advocates for a violent world 294 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 12: for us to exist amidst violence, political violence. The second 295 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 12: the temperature gets turned up on him just a little 296 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 12: Not that we condone any form of violence, but this 297 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 12: guy gets a little bit of heat on him and 298 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 12: he flies straight to Spain. Absolute coward. He cannot exist 299 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 12: in the world for which he advocates for. And then 300 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 12: you know, take these kids are meanwhile getting docks on campus. 301 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 12: The university is launching an investigation on the kids, not him, 302 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 12: not him, not on the violence that he advocates for. 303 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 15: But on him. 304 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: And so we're going to continue on this. 305 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 12: Topic of cultural political violence the rise of it. But 306 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 12: first I'm going to tell you about one of our 307 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 12: partners here, and that would be Done with Debt. 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But welcome back radio in 365 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 12: just two seconds, all right, welcome back to the Charlie 366 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 12: Kirk Show radio stations across the country. 367 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Colevett. 368 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 12: I'm the executive producer of this fine show, joined by 369 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 12: Jack Pisobic, the one and only Human Events Daily with Posso. 370 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 12: So yes, I went to this town hall last night. 371 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 12: Fetterman is actually the one that's going most viral John 372 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 12: Fetterman because he said, I'm not going to call conservatives fascists, right, 373 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 12: So Fetterman is striking this civil tone. It was supposed 374 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 12: to be this very civil debate. Chris Cuomo had reached 375 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 12: out asked me to be a part of it. I said, sure, 376 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 12: I'm going to be in town let's do it. I'm 377 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 12: happy to do a civil debate, a conversation. 378 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: So I go there. 379 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 12: I'm backstage and you've got you know, Jim Jordan, you 380 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 12: got Roe, Conna, stephen A Smith, Bill O'Reilly, Chris Cuomo. 381 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 12: They're all having these very nice Kennedy Kennedy Center last night. 382 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 12: They're all having these very nice conversations. 383 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: It's all very civil, it's very chill. 384 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 12: And then all of a sudden, my segment comes up 385 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 12: and they put me with this Midas touch kid Adas 386 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 12: to Midas Toucher. He puts the mock and mockler and 387 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 12: we talked backstage. He was very nice, and you know, 388 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 12: I was like, okay, we'll talk about new media, We'll 389 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 12: talk about the importance of that, and then what's turning 390 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 12: point doing? 391 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be just like this. 392 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 12: This kid comes in and he's like, you need to 393 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 12: disavow these young Republicans from New York. 394 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he came at me, real hot, real hot. 395 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: I had no idea that I was walking into that situation. 396 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 4: Wait, can I just say, by the way, on the 397 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 4: Federman piece, so Federan comes out, he says, I'm not 398 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 4: going to call conservatives fascists. All right, that was the 399 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: big thing out last night. What do we see in 400 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: axios this morning? The Democrats are now moving to Alst. 401 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 13: Fetterman. They're gonna primary in Pennsylvania. 402 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 12: Oh my goodness, So you are no longer allowed to 403 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 12: live civilly with your political opponents. 404 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 15: Yeah. There. 405 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 4: And by the way, he is a ninety three percent 406 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: Democrat voting record, so like he votes with the Democrats 407 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: all the time on every single issue. 408 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: Is not good enough. 409 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 13: But it's not good enough because. 410 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: He won't call republic And this shows you, I'm sorry, 411 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 4: but like we're on Charlie Show, right, this shows you 412 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 4: the mindset and the ecosystem that leads to a heinous 413 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 4: act like this because they demand this theological fealty to 414 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: you must say the words. You must say the words, 415 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 4: and if you don't say that, then they're going to 416 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 4: throw you out of all the. 417 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: Well, let's since we're on Fetterman, let's play that clip 418 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: to seventy. 419 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 19: I know, and I love people that voted for President Trump, 420 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 19: but they are not fascists, they're not Nazis, they're not 421 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 19: trying to destroy her, the Constitution and those things. We 422 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 19: really got to turn the temperature down. 423 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 12: And for that, he's getting basically primaried by political party and. 424 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: Politically speaking, so I mean, obviously we're both in Pennsylvania, 425 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 4: so Trump wins Pennsylvania, but then Fetterman also won Pennsylvania, 426 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 4: so he's in this same boat with like Whitmer, Joshapiro, 427 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: a number of people who are demok Bill Evers and 428 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 4: Wisconsin who are represented states as Democrats in places where 429 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: Trump won. You see this also with John Assoff in 430 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: Georgia of course in Arizona as well, which Charlie of 431 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 4: course is very close to yep. 432 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 12: And this is a perfect example of this cope I'm 433 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 12: about to play from Jimmy Kimmel of the current state 434 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 12: of the Democrat Party. This guy is still lying he 435 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 12: almost lost his job. As a matter of fact, he 436 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 12: probably will, let's be honest, because his ratings are falling. 437 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: Off a cliff, and because he's awful, because of number money, 438 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 4: because he's awful. 439 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 12: He's not funny. His ratings are falling off a cliff. 440 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 12: He's gonna his show will die the way it's supposed 441 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 12: to die, which is because it's too expensive and it's unsuccessful. 442 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: So that's fine. 443 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 12: But meanwhile, despite getting a pretty stern slap on the wrist, 444 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 12: we'll call it a slap on the wrist. That's about 445 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 12: what it was, he's still out there saying Antifa is 446 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 12: not real and that Trump supporters are domestic terrorists. And 447 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 12: if you want to know why conservatives are getting so 448 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 12: upset about the rise of left wing violence, it's because 449 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 12: of this rhetoric that is put this sheer sine of respectability, 450 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 12: because it shows up on the nightly news or it 451 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 12: shows up on late night talk shows. 452 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: Two seventy five. 453 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 16: Antifa is just short for anti fascists. It's not a 454 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 16: club you can join. There are no membership dues, but 455 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 16: they have matching signs. Okay, well, I guess we better 456 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 16: round up these domestic terrorists too. They look pretty much 457 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 16: intermain Listen, I'm gonna tell you this, spread it around. 458 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 16: There's no chaos in Portland, none, There is no chaos 459 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 16: in Chicago. There was no chaos in Los Angeles. They're 460 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 16: pretending there's chaos as a pretense for a military takeover. 461 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 12: I find this highly offensive on so many levels, and 462 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 12: to the point that maybe I might just throw to you, Jack, 463 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 12: but I will say this, there is chaos in Portland 464 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 12: and Chicago. Go try living in the South Side. Go 465 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 12: try working at a federal ice facility. Go try being 466 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 12: a journalist and covering the events without getting a black 467 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 12: eye or getting a you know, a liquid cement milkshake 468 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 12: thrown at your head. 469 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't. 470 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 12: By the way, and the whole point of antifa, Jack, 471 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 12: and you know this better than anybody, is that it 472 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 12: is intentionally decentralized. It is intentionally this amorphous, flexible, loose 473 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 12: network of left wing. 474 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 4: Militants, right, and they certainly do have tactical flow. We 475 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 4: know there's financiers, we know there's the rest of it. 476 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 4: But what Jimmy Kimmel was doing, I remember, this is 477 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 4: playing towards that slim base that he still has left, 478 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 4: and he has to keep repeating like recursive thoughts over 479 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 4: and over again. 480 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 13: We are not violent. They are violent. 481 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: We are not violent as as and I hate to 482 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 4: say it, but as the left wing violence continues throughout 483 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 4: this country. We just had bloody sep Teptember. Who knows 484 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 4: what will be next. 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Again, it's as 511 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 21: easy as texting the word America to the number ninety 512 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 21: eight ninety eight ninety eight. Do so today now to 513 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 21: your Real America's Voice. 514 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 20: Newsbreak, I'm Terrence Bates. 515 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 21: President Trump's plan for mass layoffs during the ongoing government 516 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 21: shutdown takes a bit of a hit after a federal 517 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 21: judge in California ordered the administration to stop the firings 518 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 21: while she considers claims from unions representing federal workers. The 519 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 21: unions argue the firings are ill legal. Two unions representing 520 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 21: employees at more than thirty federal agencies are now challenging. 521 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 20: The Trump firings. 522 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 21: Wednesday's ruling comes on the heels of White House Budget 523 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 21: Director Russ Vote saying that more than ten thousand federal 524 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 21: workers could lose their jobs as a result of the 525 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 21: current shut down. Apart from trying to trim the size 526 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 21: of the federal government, President Trump continues to focus his 527 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 21: attention on public safety. Wednesday, he and FBI Director Cash 528 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 21: Bettel released the results of Operation Summer Heat, which is 529 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 21: the bureau's nationwide crime crack down from this past summer. 530 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 21: The operation reportedly resulted in more than twenty two hundred 531 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 21: firearms being seized, along with four hundred and twenty one 532 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 21: kilograms of fenny'll being taken. A lot more arrests were 533 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 21: also made. We're talking more than eight thousand that to 534 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 21: protect you. 535 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 17: The hardest working radio show in their business, the Charlie Kirkshaw. 536 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Charlie kirks Show. 537 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 12: History, economics, the great works of literature. Did you study 538 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 12: these things in school? 539 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: Probably not. 540 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 12: Even if you did, maybe it's time for an enjoyable 541 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 12: refresher course. So the folks at Hillsdale College are offering 542 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 12: more than forty three online courses, including their newest course 543 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 12: on totalitarian novels. I've told you about it. I'm gonna 544 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 12: tell you about it again because it's that great. In 545 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 12: this free eight lecture course, you'll learn from Hillsdale College 546 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 12: President the legend doctor Larry arn Is. He goes in 547 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 12: depth on four novels nineteen eighty four, Brave New World, 548 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 12: Darkness at Noon, and That Hideous Strength. Even though these 549 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 12: novels were written in the nineteen thirties and forties, they 550 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 12: are highly relevant today as they show what a tyrannical 551 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 12: government does to human nature. More importantly, they can show 552 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 12: us that faith, family, and friends, and this country are 553 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 12: worth fighting for. 554 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: Maybe you read these books long ago in school. 555 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 12: Maybe you've heard others talk about them and they seem 556 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 12: a little intimidating. 557 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: They don't have to be. 558 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 12: Let Hillsdale help you make the most of them. Go 559 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 12: right now to Charlie for Hillsdale dot com to enroll. 560 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 12: That's Charlie for Hillsdale dot com to enroll. 561 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: Charlie C. H A R. 562 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 13: L I E. 563 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: For Hillsdale dot com to enroll. 564 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 12: Right now we are I'm told that we have the 565 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 12: great Coach. Tommy Tubberville on the line. Coach, welcome to 566 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 12: the show. 567 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 15: Hey, and how you doing. How's it going. 568 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing all right, coach. 569 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 12: Thank you so much, and I want to start this. 570 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 12: By the way, I'm also joined by Jack Pasobic. I 571 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 12: know you can't see him on camera just yet, but. 572 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 13: I'm here, Coach, I'm here. 573 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. Where we got the three up? Coach. 574 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 12: This is your first time joining the show since everything happened, 575 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 12: So I want to start there. There's a lot we 576 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 12: need to get to, but let's start there. Charlie loved you, Coach. 577 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: He believed in you. He knew you were one of 578 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: the fighters in Washington. 579 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 12: Now you're working on a gubernatorial campaign in the great 580 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 12: state of Alabama. But maybe just start there, reflect on 581 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 12: what this month is meant to you and kind of 582 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 12: where you're right. 583 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 15: Yeah. I met Charlie six seven years ago. 584 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 22: He helped me in my campaign for the Senate seat, 585 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 22: and we got to be good friends. I saw him 586 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 22: at the White House a couple of times during the 587 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 22: campaign and just over the last years since President Trump 588 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 22: got elected. 589 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 15: He and I were. 590 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 22: Put on the Air Force basically the Academy board and 591 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 22: to try to work with Air Force Academy to try 592 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 22: to help our young leaders of the future. And Charlie 593 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 22: and I had several conversations and we were really outspoken 594 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 22: a lot of things that need to be changed. And 595 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 22: again Charlie was he was one of kind and you 596 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 22: always enjoyed talking to him because you'd always learned something. 597 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 22: I learned something a long time ago. You speak a 598 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 22: third of the time, you listened two thirds of the time. 599 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 22: And if I could have listened all day to Charlie. 600 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 22: But it's a shame of what's happened. Seemed like this yesterday. 601 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 22: But his memory will go on and his teachings because 602 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 22: he did so much for young kids. I spent my 603 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 22: life on college campuses, and Lord Hill Mercy, how much 604 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 22: we needed somebody like Charlie and now Erica and you 605 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 22: guys and everybody on board going in that direction. We 606 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 22: have to continue that ministry on college campuses. 607 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 15: That's where it starts. That's where we're going to change 608 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 15: our country. And Charlie was on the right track. 609 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 12: Well, and Coach I just have to say thank you 610 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 12: on behalf of everybody at Turning Point USA for joining us. 611 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 12: On November fifth, an upcoming event Campus Stops is going 612 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 12: to be huge with alongside Eric Trump, Lara Trump, and 613 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 12: Bennie Johnson on November fifth. 614 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: I think we've got that graphic. 615 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 12: Guys, if you can throw it up, you are going 616 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 12: to be helping us kick that event off in November 617 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 12: fifth at Auburn University, a place you know just a 618 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 12: little bit about, Coach. 619 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: Maybe tell us why you felt like you needed to 620 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: be a part of this. 621 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 22: Well, first of all, we're working on this with Charlie 622 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 22: before lost his life and he wanted to come to Auburn. 623 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 22: We were working out the details and obviously now things 624 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 22: have changed, but it hadn't changed. And the fact that 625 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 22: we're still gonna bring his thoughts and memory to Auburn, 626 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 22: my understanding is that it's gonna be a hard. 627 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 15: Ticket to get. 628 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 22: We've got a lot of great Americans on that campus 629 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 22: that that really loved Charlie and want to continue on 630 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 22: and again, I hate to say this, but things have 631 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 22: really even multiplied even after what happened to Charlie. But again, 632 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 22: his memory is coming to Auburn again. We've got a 633 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 22: great group of Benny and Lauren. Eric look forward to 634 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 22: seeing him. I'll actually leave d C, come back, fly 635 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 22: back just for that. I live on a three or 636 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 22: four blocks from the campus, So I'm looking forward to 637 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 22: Turning Point coming to Auburn and and sharing a lot 638 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 22: of thoughts about about the future of Turning Point. 639 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 15: And of course Eric and Laura come in there, they'll they'll. 640 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 22: Bring a lot of other insight Benny also, But I'm 641 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 22: just looking forward to be around college kids again and 642 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 22: having a chance and opportunity to kick something off that 643 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 22: I think is going to be pretty special in the 644 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 22: Auburn area and the Alburt Arena around you know, ten 645 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 22: thousand people or so that we'll grab a hope and 646 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 22: keep this thing going. 647 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 12: Well, God bless you for it. And you know, Erica 648 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 12: Kirk has been at Stalwarts. She has been very firm. 649 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 12: We are going to ten X Turning Point. We are 650 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 12: going to grow the movement that Charlie started and that 651 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 12: his death has ushered in this ground swell of enthusiasm 652 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 12: and patriotism. 653 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: We're committed to it. 654 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 12: It's a sacred duty and it's folks like you throwing 655 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 12: in and pitching in and making sure that your influence 656 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 12: has heard that kids get to hear from you. 657 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: Directly. 658 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 12: That makes me very, very confident that we are going 659 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 12: to take the baton from Charlie and. 660 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: Run with it as best we can. But God's gonna 661 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: bless it. 662 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 12: I truly believe it, and so thank you for making 663 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 12: the time, Senator. It's a it's a huge blessing to us. Now, 664 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 12: something else you and Charlie shared, and I've mentioned this 665 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 12: on the show before, is that, towards the end of 666 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 12: his life, Charlie, probably more than any other issue, raised 667 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 12: the alarm bells about the rise. 668 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: Of Islam in the West. 669 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 12: Obviously, he had just visited London and the UK, sought 670 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 12: up close and personal, realized half the TV channels were 671 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 12: in a different language, mostly Middle Eastern languages. I think 672 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 12: that's safe to say, and it really disturbed him. And 673 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 12: then we saw these different communities with the United States 674 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 12: trying to put together Muslim centric cultures and sort of 675 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 12: you know, having mosques and having an ho aa that 676 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 12: was basically paying towards the mousme epic city, I think 677 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 12: is what they called it in Texas. 678 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: But there's other examples. 679 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 12: Dearborn Michigan, there's a rising tide of Islam in the West, 680 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 12: and Coach you are introducing legislation to ban sharia law 681 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 12: in the United States. 682 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: Tell us about it. 683 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 22: Well, first of all, this is a great country, greatest 684 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 22: country ever in the face of Europe. We have freedoms, 685 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 22: we have a constitution, and you have the right to 686 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 22: come here and be a part of this country. 687 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 15: The thing that you. 688 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 22: Don't have the right to do is to attack our 689 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 22: constitution of the religions. Speak out against America, speak out 690 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 22: against Americans. Death to America. That's wrong. Sarial law is 691 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 22: not going to figure it got no chance. Charlie and 692 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 22: I talked about this recently before his death, and he 693 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 22: was starting on that campaign. I'm going to continue that 694 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 22: campaign in his name because we have a great country, 695 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 22: but we can't if you don't assimilate with America and 696 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 22: love our flag and love our people and put your 697 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 22: foot forward to help make this country greater instead of downgraded, 698 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 22: you have no place here. 699 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 15: So we need to banish real law. 700 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 22: And we need to make sure that anything that is 701 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 22: done towards American people if. 702 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 15: Spoken out against I don't care what it is. 703 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 22: If you speak out against this country, and right now 704 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 22: it's mostly come from a radical Islamist, then you don't 705 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 22: deserve to be here. So it's time to make a stand. 706 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 22: Charlie started it, We're going to continue on with it, 707 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 22: and we're going to stand up for what we believe in, 708 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 22: and that's the greatest country on the base of the earth. 709 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: Well said Sir. 710 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 4: Well said Jack Well, Coach, I want to say thank 711 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 4: you so much for coming on. And I know Charlie 712 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 4: shared so many of the values that you fight for, 713 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 4: so many of the values that it seems that as 714 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 4: a country we seem to have forgotten about many times. 715 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 4: And unfortunately, one of those values is the idea of 716 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 4: being civil. And Andrew and I have been sitting here 717 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 4: talking today and really for the past monk about the 718 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 4: violence that we've seen come from these elements on. 719 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 13: The far left. 720 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 4: And Coach, what is it that drives them to be 721 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 4: so directly violent? 722 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 13: And you have your colleague John Fetterman. 723 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 4: He came out last night and he's on this panel 724 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 4: with Andrew and says, well, I don't think we should 725 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: call Republicans fascists. And we wake up this morning and 726 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 4: Democrats are trying a primary amount office in Pennsylvania. 727 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 22: Yeah, John's one of the few that speaks out for 728 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 22: America on the democratic side. Right now, they are just 729 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 22: moving in the direction of socialism and fascism and communism, 730 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 22: you name it. They're trying to do it because they 731 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 22: want power. They don't want anything better for our country. 732 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 22: They want people to join their cause to tear our 733 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 22: country down, to make something different than what it is, 734 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 22: what it was and how it was built. We made 735 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 22: it two hundred and fifty almost two hundred and fifty years. 736 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 15: We'll celebrate that next year. 737 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 22: And constitutional republics and any kind of democracy never really 738 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 22: lasts past that point, and so we have other people 739 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 22: that won't change us to what they are. 740 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 15: Europe has gone, They've lost it. 741 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 22: The immigration system in Europe has it, and most i'd 742 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 22: say ninety percent of the countries has overtaken them. I 743 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 22: don't know where they can regain it. But they want 744 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 22: the big Apple, Okay, they want the United States of America. 745 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 22: And we better wake up and smell the roses, the 746 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 22: thing that Charlie was speaking about, and let people know 747 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 22: that this is not a socialist country. This is not 748 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 22: a country that's taken over by a certain religion. 749 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 15: We have a set of rules, we have a game plan. 750 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 22: It's called the American Constitution and we're not going to 751 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 22: change that, and we'll fight for it. 752 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 15: We have before, and if we have to fight for 753 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 15: it here, we'll fight for it here. 754 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 22: But we are going to let our kids and grandkids 755 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 22: have what we've all had to grow in the future 756 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 22: of the greatest country ever. 757 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: Well said sir. 758 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 12: You know we I've commented on this that I did 759 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 12: not feel. I didn't even really internalize the fact that 760 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 12: there was a government shut down going on. This is 761 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 12: something that you are actively involved in being a part 762 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 12: of the Senate. I got to DC and it's like, oh, 763 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 12: I can feel the shutdown here. This is like the 764 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 12: one place where you can you can feel it. I 765 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 12: understand that eventually some of these paychecks for our servicemen, 766 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 12: you know, might get held out, but luckily we found 767 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 12: like a stop gap for that in the short term. 768 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 12: Tell us about the shutdown, are you optimistic it's going 769 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 12: to end soon? Or the Democrats just gonna you know, 770 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 12: be not be moved, not be budged in this fight 771 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 12: for health care for I don't know, illegals. 772 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 22: Yeah, well, here's what you got to understand. It's the 773 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 22: craziest thing I've ever been around, and I've been around 774 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 22: a lot of crazy stuff in the last five years 775 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 22: in the Biden administration, and now, thank goodness, President Trump 776 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,959 Speaker 22: got elected. But this is the budget that we've had 777 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 22: for the last four years, and every Democrat has voted 778 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 22: for it. Now, all of a sudden, President Trump is 779 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 22: not in office. He's trying to make changes. He's trying 780 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 22: to get his head above water in terms of what 781 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 22: the Biden administration did. D our executive and an executive branch. 782 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 22: So he's trying. He's doing everything he possibly can. The 783 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,439 Speaker 22: problem is the Democrats don't like it, and so now 784 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 22: they want to change the narrative. 785 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 15: Okay, we want to tree in and have more dollars 786 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 15: in this budget. 787 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 22: Wait a minute, we're spending two tree in more than 788 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 22: American taxpayers senned already. We're two million, two trillion over 789 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 22: over the budget, and so we really need to cut it, 790 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 22: not be had. They want to add a tree and 791 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 22: a half. They want fifty billion for illegal aliens healthcare insurance, 792 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 22: and they want to take away the fifty billion dollars 793 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 22: that was in the one big beautiful field that will 794 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 22: take care of rural hospitals. We cannot do that. It 795 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 22: is needed all across this country. 796 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 12: But they say I got to hit a break, Senator, 797 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 12: hang right there, got to hit a break. 798 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 15: Rank you. 799 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 12: Welcome back wrap one second? Okay, Studio says we can 800 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 12: keep going perfect. So coach, what is your message? I mean, 801 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 12: because we understand that there's this fight over the one 802 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 12: point three trillion dollars than healthcare for working men and 803 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 12: women as they like to say, But it's actually way 804 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 12: way more sinister than that, because a lot of these 805 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 12: are legals. But what's your message? Because we know there's 806 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 12: actually just a political calculus at play here. Chuck Schumer's 807 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 12: worried about his left flank. He took a lot of 808 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 12: incoming from his own party when he went with the CR. 809 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 12: Last time, he's worried about AOC primarying him. She was 810 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 12: on a town hall with Bernie Sanders last night on 811 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 12: CNM with Caton Collins. We know that there's just there's 812 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 12: just pure partisan politics at play here with Democrats and 813 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 12: they don't want to budget. 814 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 1: What's your message to them. 815 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 22: Well, they don't care about the American people. They're worried 816 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 22: more about politics power. Schumer, as you said, he voted 817 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 22: for the CR. You really didn't want to back. In 818 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 22: the spring President Trump's first cr he voted for it, 819 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 22: and he took a she lacking from the aocs, the 820 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 22: far left progressives of the Democratic Party, and so he 821 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 22: knows this time if he votes for it, he's dead meet. 822 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 22: He will not be back in the Senate after the 823 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 22: next year, run against him and beating, So that's his probably. 824 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 12: Yep, No, I agree with you, coach, and he's got 825 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 12: a heck of a heck of a party to try 826 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 12: and wrangle in. I mean, we sometimes joke that the 827 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 12: conservative movement is a bunch of raucous, independent minded, hard 828 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 12: to control people, but I actually think that the divide 829 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 12: between sort of these moderate old school Democrats and the 830 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 12: new left might be even more dramatic. 831 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, to put a finer point on 832 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: what we talked about. 833 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 12: Earlier, jackets the left wing of the Democrat Party, that 834 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 12: it's Democrats, Socials of America, Communists that is actually advocated 835 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 12: for political violence. Coach, we are so honored to have 836 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 12: you again. 837 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: I know. 838 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 12: How much faith Charlie put in you, how much belief 839 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 12: he had, and we wish you all the best in 840 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 12: your gubernatorial run in the great state of Alabama and 841 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 12: we will be seeing you in Auburn in just a 842 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 12: few weeks. 843 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 15: Thank you, look forward to seeing you guys. Talk to 844 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 15: you soon. 845 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 12: Absolutely, Thank you, coach. Thanks talking you soon. We're going 846 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 12: to welcome back radio in just a few seconds. 847 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 6: We'll be right back, all right, Welcome back to the 848 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk Show. 849 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 12: I want to play a couple of clips of Charlie 850 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 12: talking about Blom because he really was hammering this day 851 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 12: in and. 852 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: Day out based based uh. 853 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 12: Let's go ahead and play two fifty three. How Islam 854 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 12: is a conquering religion? Two fifty three. 855 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 23: For anyone that has eyes to see and ears to hear, 856 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 23: and actually reads the Kadiz and reads parts of the Kooran, 857 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 23: you know that conquest is in Islamic value. To submit 858 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 23: is literally what Islam means to make those submit. It's 859 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 23: very hard to get serious Muslims to admit to this 860 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 23: that they actually do want conquest, that they do want 861 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 23: to take over. 862 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 15: Jack. 863 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 12: I mean, ultimately, that is what we're seeing kind of 864 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 12: play out in places like London and. 865 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: Now New York. 866 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 12: And we have the debate, huge debate that's going to 867 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 12: be taking place tonight between Andrew Cuomo, Sliwa and Mom Donnie. 868 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 4: Mom Donnie, and so tonight in lieu of thought Crime 869 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 4: or you know, we're still doing the thought Crime show, 870 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 4: but it's actually going to be as Charlie would have wanted, 871 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 4: by the way, a debate watch and then a debate 872 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 4: reaction show. So I want everyone to tune in this evening. 873 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 4: I think the debate starts seven pm Eastern, so you 874 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 4: don't need to worry about going to. 875 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 13: Some other channel. 876 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 4: We will be streaming the program tonight on Charlie Kirk 877 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 4: on the on the Charlie Kirk platforms, platforms and all 878 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 4: the platforms, and then we'll be coming on afterwards. Andre 879 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 4: Actually you're gonna. 880 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 12: Be I gotta catch the flight, but I'll do the 881 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 12: pre show and I'll watch part of the debate and 882 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 12: then you guys are gonna take it from there. 883 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get We'll getting Blake's on assignments, so we'll 884 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 4: get We'll get Tyler, myself, Cliff. 885 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 13: Maloney, and I want to get Mikey. 886 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 15: Yeah. 887 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 13: Actually we had him, Mikey. We had him going to 888 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 13: be on thought Crime and he's great. 889 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 12: Mikey's gonna be on the show tomorrow for our am 890 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 12: sou please join members dot Charliekirk dot com. Become a 891 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 12: member and help us in this time, but also get 892 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 12: to take part in our ams. 893 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: That's the way he gets to talk to Mikey. 894 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 13: That's the only way to call in. Is that a member? 895 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Well there, yeah, so uh and you get 896 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: to talk to Mikey, which is you know, I. 897 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 12: Wouldn't want to talk to Mike A big deal. I 898 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 12: mean it's a big deal. So yeah, listen, you know, 899 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 12: look at this. You see uh, go go ahead and 900 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,439 Speaker 12: throw up image to seventy eight. 901 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: This is from July seventh. 902 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 12: The conservative movement needs to focus more time, energy and 903 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 12: focus on how Islam is rapidly taking over the West. 904 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 12: That's a Charlie tweet two seventy eight. We could go 905 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 12: to another one years that that's this year, this year, 906 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 12: this and September third. This is seven days before you 907 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 12: hear a lot of pundits fearmonger about the rise of 908 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 12: Christian nationalism. Right in front of their eyes, Islam is 909 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 12: taking over public places and gaining political power. Islam is 910 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 12: a fundamentally political ideology that aims to conquer us militarily 911 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 12: or demographically. This is absolutely right two seventy seven. Islam 912 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 12: is the sword the left is using to slit the 913 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 12: throat of America. 914 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: So it's a really can I can I just say that? 915 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 24: Yeah? 916 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 13: That was September ninth. 917 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, here's here's August seventh, mass import Islam 918 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 12: destroy America. 919 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: It's that simple. 920 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 12: Charlie was was raising the alarm bell. He was he 921 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 12: was being as loud as he could about this issue. 922 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: And I will not forget it. 923 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 4: You know what it was is because he went to 924 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 4: Oxford and Cambridge, because he was over there in London 925 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 4: and he saw it with his own eyes. That was 926 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 4: one not the last foreign trip, but one of the 927 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 4: last big trips that he did outside of the country. 928 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 4: And he came back and the very first thing he 929 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 4: did was identified with the problem and he just boiled 930 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 4: it down to it's down to its bones, down to 931 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 4: its very DNA, as only Charlie could do, and said, guys, 932 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 4: they're ahead of us, but we're on the same path. 933 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 4: We're on the very same path with Islam. And then 934 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 4: he was over there seeing what was happening. Obviously he 935 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 4: saw how bad the infiltration on campus was, but he 936 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 4: saw it around the cities as well. And we saw, 937 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 4: of course the huge rally for Tommy Robinson, which had 938 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 4: already been pre scheduled the same week that Charlie was killed, 939 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 4: and that that was very much a repudiation of the 940 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 4: mass migration of Islam and Third worlders into London. 941 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 13: And then and then, because. 942 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 4: Charlie was murdered three days prior, I think of the 943 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 4: days right there, it just became this connection of Charlie 944 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 4: and Christianity and the Western civilization sort of all mixed together. 945 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 12: Charlie's mantra at the end was save the West, Save 946 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 12: the West, Save the West. And I think he he 947 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 12: had wanted to travel internationally in twenty twenty three, twenty 948 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 12: twenty four, but he said America first, we're going to 949 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 12: stay domestic. We're going to stay focused here at home. 950 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 12: We win the election, and he finally allowed himself to 951 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 12: schedule a few trips, and so of course he went 952 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 12: to London, but then he went to Korea, South Korea 953 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 12: and Japan as well. 954 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm so glad he got to do that. I'm so grateful. 955 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 13: Because he really liked it. 956 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, he actually liked it. 957 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 12: He loved how clean it was, and he was reminded 958 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 12: that we don't have to live this way. 959 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 1: We do not have to live with crime and filth. 960 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 13: It's optional. 961 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 12: And yeah, it's. 962 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: All about political will. 963 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 12: We learned this with the border and so many other things. Listen, 964 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 12: we are going to be joined by doctor Gad Sad 965 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 12: in the second hour. Charlie loved his long conversation with 966 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 12: doctor Sad. We're going to have one here and we're 967 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 12: gonna let Jack and doctor Sad bury the hatchet. 968 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. 969 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 13: What are you talking about. I don't know. 970 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 12: He's no hedges to be very We love doctor Sad. 971 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 12: We're honored to have him in just a few minutes. 972 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 12: So our two starts at the top of the next hour. 973 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. 974 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 21: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm 975 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 21: Terrence Bates. One of the lesser known facts about the 976 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 21: body is its ability to renew itself, even in areas 977 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 21: we once thought couldn't regenerate. This woman that I'm about 978 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 21: to introduce you to is a witness and it's all 979 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 21: thanks to her work with energized health. 980 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 25: Mental clarity is amazing. I hadn't been able to basically 981 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,760 Speaker 25: feel my feet for about a year and a half. 982 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 25: And I just realized last week after the cat ran 983 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 25: across them and they hurt. 984 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 20: That I can really feel them again. 985 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 25: I don't have pain in my back. I can get 986 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 25: on the floor and get back up without help when 987 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 25: I'm playing with my grandkids. And the piece that I 988 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 25: have since I started is absolutely incredible. I'm an entirely 989 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 25: different person. 990 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 21: The man who helped a router is right there on 991 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 21: your screen, John Jubilee, the founder and CEO of Energized Health. 992 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 20: John. Good to see you. 993 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,280 Speaker 26: Great to see you, Terrence. 994 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 21: So let's talk about some of the areas where the 995 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 21: body can kind of rejuvenate itself and how does hydration 996 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 21: actually help support that sort of healing. 997 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 26: Yeah, well, first of all, you know, what a great story. 998 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,760 Speaker 13: You know, so terrors. 999 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 26: A lot of people have neuropathy or they have nerve 1000 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 26: damage because or poor circulation, and so what a cool 1001 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 26: thing that someone said, Hey, that was a good feeling 1002 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 26: that my feet hurt because I had a cat run 1003 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 26: across those cat costs. But you know, anyone that has 1004 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 26: any type of you know, neuropathy or sometimes what they 1005 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 26: call you know, drop foot, you know, a deadfoot. You 1006 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,280 Speaker 26: know those type of things, you know, the sleeping issues, 1007 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 26: the brain fog. You know, when you get that healthy 1008 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 26: circulation going, Terrence through that inner ceiular hydration, you really 1009 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 26: can reverse those things. And you know, and I love 1010 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 26: hearing about you know, not just parents, but grandparents. Right, 1011 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 26: So here's grandparents. That lady said, Terrence, she's getting down 1012 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 26: on the floor, up and down off the floor as 1013 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 26: a grandparent playing with their grandkids. And you know, that's 1014 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 26: creating a legacy. When you can actually be an active 1015 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 26: participant in your grandchildren's lives, that's going to leave a legacy. 1016 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 26: Your grandkids will never forget that Grandma or Grandpa was 1017 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 26: getting up and down off the floor playing. 1018 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 13: With them, Terrence. 1019 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 26: And there's a there's an amazing medical study that came 1020 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 26: out that said longitivity of life is basically now tied 1021 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 26: to one thing, which is strength. 1022 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 13: Strength. 1023 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,399 Speaker 26: The stronger we are, Terrence, the longer and better we're 1024 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 26: going to live. And our muscles are seventy five percent water. 1025 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 26: There's seventy five percent water. So that's the power of 1026 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 26: intercealar hydration. It gives us our lean muscle mass, which 1027 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 26: gives us our strength, which gives us a long, amazing life. 1028 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 21: And it's my understanding that this intercellular hydration that you 1029 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 21: talk about also could help us with our brain kind 1030 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 21: of getting those neurons and protons firing. 1031 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 26: Well one thousand percent. You know, our brain is seventy 1032 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 26: percent water. Our brain is mostly water, and our brain 1033 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 26: and our heart are electromagnetic devices. They are electrical. And 1034 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 26: how come nobody would get in the bathtub and turn 1035 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 26: on their blow dryer and throw it in the bathtub 1036 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 26: because everyone knows water conducts electricity. You would get electrocuted. 1037 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 26: It's the same in your brain. The more hydration you 1038 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 26: have in the brain, the more electrical conductivity you have, 1039 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 26: so you have way more neual transmitters and brain synapses 1040 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 26: firing in there. Terrence the brain, there's three things in 1041 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 26: a human that never age. Your voice always stays the same. 1042 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 26: The voice doesn't age. That's why you'll see some eighty 1043 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 26: year olds singing just like they did when they're twenty. 1044 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,240 Speaker 26: Your eyes always look the same. 1045 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 20: Your eyes don't age. 1046 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 26: That's why they can use a retinal scan because the 1047 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 26: eye never changes. And our brain actually never ages. It 1048 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 26: only gets dehydrated. If it gets dehydrated that's when we 1049 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 26: lose our memory. That's when we lose brain function. So 1050 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 26: we can always get that back with our intersecular hydration. 1051 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 21: Interesting quickly in twenty seconds. Folks who are interested, how 1052 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 21: can they find you? 1053 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:38,399 Speaker 15: Well. 1054 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 26: Best thing to do now, guys is go to my 1055 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 26: five five five challenge dot com. We got a challenge 1056 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 26: coming up where we'll share this science with you. Chelsea 1057 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 26: and I. My wife is so fun, guys, she makes 1058 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 26: science entertaining. 1059 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 20: It's five dollars. It's five dollars. 1060 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 26: Come and just spend like having a cup of coffee 1061 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 26: with John and Chelsea for five days my five to 1062 00:51:59,080 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 26: five to five challenge. 1063 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 21: All right, folks, it's right there on the bottom of 1064 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 21: your screen. 1065 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 24: All right. 1066 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. 1067 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 12: Andrew covid in here, executive producer of this show, joined 1068 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 12: by Jack Pasobic, host of Human Events Daily with Jack Pisobic. 1069 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 12: So honored to have our next guest here, Doctor Gad Sad, 1070 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 12: who is a great friend of the show, has been 1071 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 12: a great friend to Charlie Kirk. 1072 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: He is also the scholar. 1073 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 12: I want to get this title right because he's actually. 1074 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: A new wonderful title. 1075 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 12: Doctor Gadsad, scholar at the Declaration of Independent Center for 1076 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 12: the Study of American Freedom at University of Mississippi. Is 1077 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 12: also the author of a bunch of amazing books, The 1078 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 12: Parasitic Mind. 1079 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: He's working on a new one. 1080 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 12: I want to talk to him about that, Doctor Sad. 1081 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 12: Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, and thank you for 1082 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 12: making the time. 1083 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 20: Oh, thank you so much for having me. Cheers. 1084 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 12: Yeah, well, doctor said, I want to let you start 1085 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 12: where you know, I think it makes sense most and 1086 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 12: that is, you know, we haven't had you back on 1087 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,399 Speaker 12: the show since, you know, Charlie was taken from us 1088 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 12: on September tenth, and I just want to give you 1089 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 12: a chance to reflect on what this last month and 1090 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 12: plus has meant to you, and just let you reflect 1091 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,280 Speaker 12: on what a loss we've all suffered. 1092 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,280 Speaker 20: I mean, I sort of oscillated from sadness to anger 1093 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,760 Speaker 20: only maybe I think it was maybe a month prior 1094 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 20: to the tragic day, I had appeared on the show 1095 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 20: with Charlie and I've told the story before, but it's 1096 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 20: worth repeating here. You know, I've spoken to many wonderful people, 1097 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 20: you know, throughout my professional career, many of whom have 1098 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,760 Speaker 20: come on my show. I mean really really top people. 1099 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 20: My daughter, who's sixteen years old, never asked for me 1100 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 20: to introduce her to anybody. When I was appearing on 1101 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,840 Speaker 20: Charlie's show this last time, she came home excitedly and said, 1102 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 20: could you please just introduce me to Charlie. And so 1103 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 20: that kind of gives you a sense. I'm sixty one 1104 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 20: years old and a fan of Charlie, and my sixteen 1105 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 20: year old is a fan of Charlie. So it is 1106 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 20: an immeasurable tragedy. But here we are promoting his legacy, 1107 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 20: so hopefully he lives on in all our hearts and mind. 1108 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, and doctor said, maybe that's the next best place 1109 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 12: to start. 1110 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: Is you know you talk about his legacy. 1111 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 12: I I don't typically throw this question out to people, 1112 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 12: but you are a public intellectual. You are a great thinker. 1113 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 12: You have a way of distilling ideas. What is Charlie's 1114 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,319 Speaker 12: legacy in your mind? And what do you hope that 1115 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 12: it will grow into? 1116 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 20: You know, there are several ways by which I can 1117 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,320 Speaker 20: answer this question. I'll take a stab at one or 1118 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 20: two ways. Number one, you know, in chapter in the 1119 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 20: last chapter of the Parasitic Mind, I ask people to 1120 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 20: activate their inner honey badger. And I use that terminology 1121 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 20: because the honey badger has been officially classified as the 1122 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 20: most fierce animal in the animal kingdom. Now, I don't 1123 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 20: mean when I say activate your inner honey badger for 1124 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 20: you to be violently ferocious, but it means, you know, 1125 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,399 Speaker 20: get off the couch and do big things. Stand tall, 1126 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,399 Speaker 20: and Charlie was not only physically tall at six foot four, 1127 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 20: but he was a tall honey badger in that at 1128 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 20: eighteen years old, when most of us are worried about 1129 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 20: how we're going to get through the next day, as 1130 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 20: you know with teenaged angst, he starts off something that 1131 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 20: is absolutely impossible that most people in their eighties wouldn't 1132 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 20: dare start. And so, first of all, the fact that 1133 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 20: he had the hutspa right, which is a Yiddish word 1134 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 20: for sort of existential goal. The fact that he had 1135 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 20: the confidence to say, at eighteen years old, I'm not 1136 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 20: going in new university. I've got better ways to be 1137 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 20: able to contribute to the cause is something that we 1138 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 20: could all cherish and be inspired by. But then the 1139 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,439 Speaker 20: fact that he was able to cater to the young 1140 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 20: people to get involved, to get excited so that my 1141 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 20: daughter is not asking me to introduce her to Elon Musk, 1142 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 20: but is asking me to introduce her to Charlie Kirk. 1143 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 20: That says everything you need to hear about his legacy. 1144 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 20: He is a unique individual in that he had the intellect, 1145 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 20: he had the political ability to organize, he had the 1146 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 20: warmth right, he always has a smile, even when he's 1147 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 20: engaged in difficult debates, he's warm, he's engaging. So he's 1148 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 20: an immeasurable loss, truly one in a generation type of fellow. 1149 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely giant of our generation. But his memory and 1150 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 12: his legacy will live on. And you know, we're committed 1151 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 12: a turning point on the show, to growing it, to 1152 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 12: expanding it as best we can. And the outpouring of 1153 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,439 Speaker 12: love and support that we've seen both at the show 1154 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 12: but the students on campuses has been truly, truly wonderful 1155 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 12: and heartening to see. Now, Doctor Sad, we are going 1156 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 12: to get in some news the day with you because 1157 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 12: you have a way of making sense of the chaos 1158 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 12: unlike few can. But I do want to pick up 1159 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 12: on something we touched on in the previous hour, and 1160 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 12: that is the rise of Islam. It's something you and 1161 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 12: Charlie talked a lot about. And I just want to 1162 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 12: play one clip from a conversation that you had with 1163 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 12: Charlie on this show two ninety. 1164 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 23: What would you said, the West is a woman to 1165 00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 23: be mounted? That is the Islamic creed. 1166 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 20: Yes, I would repeatedly hear from Arabic speaking Muslim speaking immigrants, 1167 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 20: in this case it was in Canada always say that 1168 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 20: the West is a woman to be mounted. And what 1169 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 20: the reflex that that captures is that all of the 1170 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 20: virtues that we think as laudable in the West, compassion, magnanimity, generosity, 1171 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:31,919 Speaker 20: empathy are heard as weakness, weakness, weakness, and weakness by 1172 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,439 Speaker 20: cultures that don't necessarily share our infinite largesse. And so 1173 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 20: it's exactly what they're saying West this week. It's a 1174 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 20: woman therefore really quick. 1175 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:45,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, powerful stuff. 1176 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 12: And we've seen those clips go viral where you can 1177 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 12: actually hear them in their own words say the West 1178 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 12: is a woman to be mounted. Especially I think the 1179 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 12: clip that I've seen was from the UK, a place 1180 00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 12: that Charlie visited relatively recently before, I mean soon before 1181 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 12: the tragic events of September tenth happened, and so he 1182 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 12: saw it up close, and you had zeroed in on 1183 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 12: this idea of suicidal empathy. This it's almost an opening 1184 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 12: that but the Left and Islam were exploiting. 1185 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 20: Exactly. Maybe I could give you a quick synopsis of 1186 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 20: the framework of socidal empathy. Many people have wrongly presumed 1187 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 20: that what I mean by suicidal empathy is that empathy 1188 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 20: is a bad thing. Of course, nothing could be further 1189 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,160 Speaker 20: from the truth. We are a social species, and therefore 1190 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 20: it makes perfect evolutionary sense that empathy would be part 1191 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 20: of our repertoire of possible strategies. Right for you and 1192 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 20: I to have a meaningful conversation, I need to put 1193 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 20: myself in your mind, and vice versa. That's called theory 1194 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 20: of mind, which is part of cognitive empathy. Autistic children, 1195 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 20: for example, fail a theory of mind tests. This is 1196 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 20: how we diagnose them as being autistic. So empathy, when 1197 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 20: properly modulated to the right targets, in the right situations, 1198 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 20: in the right amounts, is a perfectly relevant and appropriate 1199 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 20: evolutionary response. The problem arises, as is the case with 1200 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 20: many psychiatric disorders, when you have a disregulation of this 1201 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 20: otherwise beneficial virtue. Right. So for example, laughter is great, right, 1202 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 20: it has medicinal properties, but then you could have pseudo 1203 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 20: bulbar effect what the joker in the movie had, where 1204 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 20: he because of abuse he starts laughing uncontrollably in wrong situations, 1205 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 20: or the way Kamala Harris can cackle the way that 1206 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 20: she does, that becomes an inappropriate form of laughter. And 1207 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 20: so suicidal empathy takes this beautiful virtue, and then because 1208 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 20: it becomes disregulated, it becomes hyperactive, and it targets the 1209 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 20: wrong targets leads to the demise of the West. And 1210 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 20: unless we get rid of this reflex really quickly, I 1211 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 20: can assure you that the West will fall. It might 1212 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 20: take five years, it might take fifty years, or it 1213 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 20: might take five hundred years, but it will fall the 1214 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 20: way many other societies have. 1215 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's really well said. 1216 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 12: I you know, and I think of basically what maga is, 1217 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 12: what conservatism has transformed into, in large part thanks to 1218 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 12: President Trump but also to Charlie Kirk and others, is 1219 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 12: that it now has a muscularness to it. It has 1220 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 12: it has a backbone, it has a fighting chance. Ultimately, 1221 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 12: that's why the left hates it so much. Because it's effective, 1222 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,920 Speaker 12: because it is the it is the antive. It is 1223 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 12: the counteraction to what the left has been doing in 1224 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 12: this country since essentially post World War Two, in the invasion, 1225 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 12: the the move in our institutions, the long march through 1226 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 12: the institutions of progressivism, of liberalism in a negative sense, 1227 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 12: obviously in that second sense, the second word. But yeah, 1228 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 12: this is the this is the anti venom of what 1229 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 12: we've what we're doing at MAGA, we're doing in the 1230 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 12: conservative movement. 1231 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 1: In President Trump. 1232 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 12: That's why the fight is so intense. Uh, Doctor Sad, 1233 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 12: We're gonna continue in the break. We've got to say 1234 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 12: by the radio for one second here and we'll be 1235 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 12: right back. All right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. 1236 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 12: We're gonna roll through the breaks with doctor Sad because 1237 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 12: it's just there's just too much to get to. I 1238 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 12: want to share with the audience a little bit of 1239 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 12: breaking news right now. President Trump has just concluded his 1240 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 12: call with Vladimir Putin. 1241 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 15: They've been on a. 1242 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 12: Very long call, and it looks like he's saying that 1243 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 12: they have agreed to send high ranking delegates led by 1244 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 12: Marco Rubio to meet and then they are going to 1245 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 12: after that meeting with high level advisors the United States 1246 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 12: will be meeting or President Trump will be meeting with 1247 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 12: Putin in Budapest. So President Trump, hot off the heels 1248 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 12: of getting peace in the Middle East, is now going 1249 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 12: to be meeting with President Putin in the near term, 1250 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 12: so hopefully we can get that, as he calls it, 1251 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 12: inglorious war between Russia and Ukraine brought to an end. 1252 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 12: He is going to be meeting with President Zelenski tomorrow 1253 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 12: here in Washington, DC. So, Jack, that feels like a 1254 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 12: good time to throw to you. 1255 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you are. 1256 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 12: You do have a bit of a feel for Eastern 1257 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 12: Europe as well as war analysis in general. 1258 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean, look, I've traveled to the war 1259 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks after it started in back in 1260 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 4: March or twenty twenty two, excuse me, May of twenty 1261 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 4: twenty two. I've been to Budapest a few times. I 1262 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 4: was at the Anchorage meeting. I accompanied the President's delegation 1263 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 4: as a new media member there aboard Air Force one 1264 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,160 Speaker 4: when he met with Putin in Alaska just a few 1265 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 4: weeks ago in Alaska, so it was in the room 1266 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 4: with himself, Putin, Lavrov all the rest and what can 1267 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 4: I say, It looks like I'm going to Budapest. 1268 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 12: Oh wow, there you go, doctor Sad, and we'll keep 1269 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 12: Jack involved in I want to make sure we were 1270 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 12: working in Jack here. No, no, but doctor Sad, maybe 1271 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 12: maybe comment really quickly. We've been told that American leadership 1272 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 12: on the world stage was coming to an end, that 1273 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 12: Trump was going to ruin America's standing in the world, 1274 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 12: and yet here he is pulling off win after win 1275 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,959 Speaker 12: after win, achieving peace. Tie that into what it means 1276 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 12: for the West, that the America's leadership is strong and 1277 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 12: robust and we're leading the way. 1278 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 20: To go back to our earlier conversation where many Muslims 1279 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 20: say the West is a woman to be mounted. President 1280 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 20: Trump lives in the real world where he actually understands 1281 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,600 Speaker 20: human nature. He may not call himself an evolutionary psychologist, 1282 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 20: but he is an evolutionary psychologist because throughout his long 1283 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 20: and successful life, he's had to deal with many people, 1284 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 20: whether it be in his real estate life or in 1285 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 20: his TV life. His ability to succeed in those forums 1286 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 20: stems from his, you know, understanding of human nature and 1287 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 20: so having people like Joe Biden and the others super 1288 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,320 Speaker 20: sweet and kind and empathetic diplomats who cross their legs 1289 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 20: like Justin Trudeau might look nice because you could show 1290 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,800 Speaker 20: off your really colorful socks, but that's not that's not 1291 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 20: what really nasty folks around the world respect. Right. So 1292 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 20: you know, I come from the Middle East. In the 1293 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 20: Middle East, we have the creed right might is right 1294 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 20: or as you probably of course know, the old term. 1295 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,920 Speaker 20: You know, if you wish to have peace, prepare for war. 1296 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 20: There are endless you know, military dictims that speak to 1297 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,480 Speaker 20: the fact that it's nice to have a velvet glove 1298 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 20: while you're shaking someone's hands, but make sure that behind 1299 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 20: your back you have a really big stick, right. As 1300 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,480 Speaker 20: you also know, speak softly, but carry a big stick. 1301 01:05:58,600 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 15: Right. 1302 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 20: So all of these maxims exist throughout history because the 1303 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 20: world doesn't exist in a utopia, in a democratic, progressive utopia. 1304 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,439 Speaker 20: It exists in the real world where people respect might, 1305 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,120 Speaker 20: and Donald Trump exemplifies that. That's why you're seeing win 1306 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 20: after win. 1307 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,920 Speaker 12: Well, doctor said, you know, you're reminding me of something 1308 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 12: you said on the show with Charlie years ago. I 1309 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 12: remember it very clearly because we were at Berkeley and 1310 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 12: he was about to do a campus stop at Berkeley 1311 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 12: and a tabling stop there, and we had we had 1312 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 12: to do the show, so we set up, you know, 1313 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 12: in some back room. We set up a kind of 1314 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,920 Speaker 12: a mobile mobile studio in some back room at Berkeley, 1315 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 12: and you guys were talking about gender ideology and the 1316 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 12: transing of youth and this thing. But it relates to 1317 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 12: this conversation too. The line you used and he stole it. 1318 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 12: I don't know that he always gave you attribution, but 1319 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 12: I remember hearing it and going, oh, that's a good line. 1320 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 1: I texted to He's like, oh, totally, that's great. 1321 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 12: But you said, the pesky shackles of reality, the pesky 1322 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 12: shackles of reality, These things like you might think you 1323 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,440 Speaker 12: can fly, but you're gonna jump off a building and 1324 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 12: find out really quick that gravity still pulls you down. 1325 01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 1: You might think that the. 1326 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 12: Rules of nature, Nature's God don't apply to you, but 1327 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,680 Speaker 12: just test Nature's God and find out. 1328 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 1: So I love that because you are a realist. 1329 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 12: Trump is a pragmatist, and he knows that the vile 1330 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 12: monsters on the stage it's better to work with them. 1331 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 12: It's better to have them fear you and respect you 1332 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,480 Speaker 12: than to be cowed by them. So we're gonna welcome 1333 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 12: back National Radio more with Doctor Gad Sat and Jack 1334 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 12: Pasovic in just one minute. 1335 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 27: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show on 1336 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 27: Andrew Covid, executive producer of this fine Show, which is, 1337 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,320 Speaker 27: of course the Charlie Kirk Show, joined by Jack Pasobic 1338 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,959 Speaker 27: Human Events Daily also a turning point us a friend 1339 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 27: and contributor Jack, Doctor Sad. 1340 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm a little upset at Jack right now because Jack. 1341 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:15,880 Speaker 12: Spilled the news that I spilled coffee is around here. Yeah, 1342 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 12: and now you're spilling tea, coffee all the things. But 1343 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 12: but listen, I love this because well I don't love 1344 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 12: the coffee spilled. There's like memes being made. 1345 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 4: I warned him about the cure Rick, I said, we 1346 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 4: got a bum carrying. 1347 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,360 Speaker 13: In here, and he did not heed my warning. 1348 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,639 Speaker 1: And my coffee right here, by the way, I have, so. 1349 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,559 Speaker 20: I have a ball to pick with both of you. 1350 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 20: I don't like to be on a show where the 1351 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 20: hosts are both extremely good looking. It's pissing me off. 1352 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 12: No, you know, it's you know, back when Blake is here. 1353 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 12: Though Blake is a handsome man, We're gonna get him married. 1354 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 1: Anyways. 1355 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 12: Here Here's here's what's funny is we have teams that 1356 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 12: clipped the show, and like some of them are connected 1357 01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 12: with us, and there are staff and others they're just 1358 01:08:59,320 --> 01:08:59,719 Speaker 12: kind of. 1359 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:00,559 Speaker 1: Come in and out. 1360 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,160 Speaker 12: One of those ones that just come in and out 1361 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 12: basically told me this morning that Jack looks. 1362 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Much better than me. And I said, okay, that's fine. 1363 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:10,440 Speaker 1: That's a weird observation. 1364 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:11,639 Speaker 13: Do you get this morning? 1365 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,400 Speaker 1: I did not do my push That's what I. 1366 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 12: Woke up early to get to the Fox out. 1367 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 13: But he didn't do his push ups this morning. 1368 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 12: So you know what I love here, though, Doctor Sad, 1369 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 12: is that you and Jack Pisobaok are on a show together. 1370 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 1: I think you would. 1371 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 12: You and Jack have disagreed on minor, honestly, very minor 1372 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 12: things in the past, but in the in this post era, 1373 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,719 Speaker 12: of this post Charlie era, we all. 1374 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,160 Speaker 1: Have to come together. And I love that. 1375 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,559 Speaker 12: And and you know, I feel like, if you look 1376 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 12: at the metal ceremony, Doctor Sad, you had all these 1377 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 12: Fox hosts, you had senators and congressmen that don't always 1378 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,720 Speaker 12: see to I coming together to celebrate Charlie. And so 1379 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,080 Speaker 12: I'm just glad this moment is happening, and Jack, I 1380 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 12: don't know. 1381 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,880 Speaker 4: Well, no, I actually the question that I had and 1382 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 4: and honestly it was, you know, really to kind of 1383 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,719 Speaker 4: pick your brain because you have such a good theory 1384 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 4: of mind of the left, and such a good theory 1385 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 4: of mind if you have this ability to really get 1386 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 4: into what makes them tick. And one of the things 1387 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,280 Speaker 4: that we've all been grappling with here, doctor Sad, is 1388 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 4: this idea that there was this kid, Tyler Robinson, an 1389 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 4: ex Mormon or comes from a Mormon family, would then 1390 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 4: find himself on a roof hundreds of miles away from 1391 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:25,160 Speaker 4: where he lives, in a relationship with a trans boyfriend, 1392 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 4: so a biological male who was transitioning to a female, 1393 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:34,160 Speaker 4: and then somehow thinks he's defending his boyfriend by and 1394 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,720 Speaker 4: again allegedly leally speaking, pulling a. 1395 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 13: Trigger and shooting Charlie Kirk. 1396 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,400 Speaker 4: And I wonder at all if you could possibly attempt 1397 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,240 Speaker 4: to unpack that twisted psychology for us. 1398 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 20: Yeah, thank you for that question, sought. I don't know 1399 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,920 Speaker 20: if you guys have heard me discuss the difference between 1400 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,640 Speaker 20: the anthological ethics and consequentialist ethics, so it might be 1401 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,759 Speaker 20: worth repeating it. Here, even if some of the viewers 1402 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,719 Speaker 20: might be familiar with it. The anthological fi are absolute statements. 1403 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,599 Speaker 20: So for example, if I say it is never okay 1404 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,519 Speaker 20: to lie, that would be the intological statement. If I 1405 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,719 Speaker 20: were to say it's okay to lie to spare someone's feelings, 1406 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,720 Speaker 20: I would be engaging in consequentialism. And of course, for 1407 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 20: many things in life, we are all consequentialists. I always joke, 1408 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 20: although I'm being serious, that if you wish to have 1409 01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 20: a long, happy marriage, if you hear the following question, 1410 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,679 Speaker 20: do I look fat in those genes? Very quickly put 1411 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 20: on your consequentialist hat. And even if you have to 1412 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 20: slightly lie, you're doing it because you love your spouse 1413 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,679 Speaker 20: and you don't want to hurt her feelings. So that's 1414 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,600 Speaker 20: perfectly fine. But when it comes to certain foundational principles 1415 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 20: that certainly define the unique American experience, presumption of innocence 1416 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 20: in the courtroom, freedom of speech, freedom of inquiry, those 1417 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:52,360 Speaker 20: things cannot be consequentialist principles. Right, So if I say 1418 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 20: I believe in freedom of speech, but not if you 1419 01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:00,040 Speaker 20: marginalize a particular group, then I'm succumbing to consequentialism. So 1420 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 20: to now wrap that up to your question. I think 1421 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 20: what the alleged assassin has done is he's drank from 1422 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 20: the kool aid of the pool of consequentialism, which basically says, 1423 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,720 Speaker 20: Charlie Kirk is such a dangerous guy that the the 1424 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 20: anthological principle of freedom of speech and exchange of ideas 1425 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,759 Speaker 20: no longer applies to Charlie Kirk. He is saying words 1426 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,640 Speaker 20: that are akin to violence. So if I stand on 1427 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 20: that rooftop and take him out, boy, I should be 1428 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 20: lauded as a hero rather than be put in prison. 1429 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 20: So that's what makes consequentialism so dangerous. 1430 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,000 Speaker 4: And so in his mind, it's almost like he feels 1431 01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:46,800 Speaker 4: as though he's defending his boyfriend, his lover. Again, we 1432 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,759 Speaker 4: don't know all the specific details there, but I'm just 1433 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 4: going off of what we've seen, and it's it's a 1434 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 4: complete You know, you talk about the suicidal toxic empathy, 1435 01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,120 Speaker 4: it seems like it's almost that suicidal empathy, but in 1436 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:01,800 Speaker 4: in the person of one individual here. 1437 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:07,280 Speaker 20: Wait exactly, that's why thirty two So sidle empathy is 1438 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 20: targeting the wrong targets. Right. We love the hamas fighters, 1439 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,960 Speaker 20: but we have no empathy for the Jews. So there 1440 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,479 Speaker 20: is no empathy for Charlie Kirk and his right to 1441 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:20,400 Speaker 20: speak freely. There's only empathy for the trans community. 1442 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:25,559 Speaker 4: Right or his wife, his children, his friends and everyone else. 1443 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:25,800 Speaker 1: And so on. 1444 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,040 Speaker 12: Doctor Dad said, We're gonna keep going through the breaks 1445 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 12: because it's just too good. Jack Posobic, hang right there, 1446 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 12: We're gonna take a quick break. 1447 01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:34,080 Speaker 1: We'll be right then. 1448 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,960 Speaker 21: Terrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice news break 1449 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,599 Speaker 21: Liberty University's twenty twenty five CEO sum of his underway 1450 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 21: as we speak, Ravs Washington correspondent Brit McHenry and Dave 1451 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,920 Speaker 21: Bradder there right now covering it for us. 1452 01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:57,800 Speaker 20: Good morning to both of you guys. 1453 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,360 Speaker 21: Britt, I have to admit I was evesdrop on you 1454 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 21: a little bit into Peers. You've confirmed your heritage while 1455 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:04,320 Speaker 21: attending this summit. 1456 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 8: Yes, as we know America first. 1457 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,880 Speaker 28: But with Edward Poots, the speaker of the Northern Ireland House, 1458 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,720 Speaker 28: he said that mckenry is actually Northern Irish, which is 1459 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 28: great because we haven't really known in my family throughout 1460 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:19,720 Speaker 28: the lineage. 1461 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 8: But no really have. 1462 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,639 Speaker 28: Had some rock star speakers here. There's a big focus 1463 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 28: on women today, a lot of panelists as well. 1464 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,120 Speaker 8: What else should we be aware of? 1465 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 24: First Lady of Virginia is with the one hundred and fifty 1466 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,719 Speaker 24: women CEOs across the street. 1467 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:35,760 Speaker 13: We just had Tanil wi. 1468 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 24: Leya come in. She's spent a long time attendee, runs 1469 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 24: Microsoft Artificial Intelligence DoD Artificial Intelligence. Today our keynotes, we 1470 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,080 Speaker 24: have Brian Westberry standing right over here. He's got one 1471 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,080 Speaker 24: of the biggest financial newsletters in the country. Tonight we 1472 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,759 Speaker 24: also have Pat Gehl Singer, one of the biggest names 1473 01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:59,240 Speaker 24: out in Silicon Valley. He started a new faith group 1474 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:03,160 Speaker 24: out there, huge and growing in Silicon Valley. People aren't 1475 01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,120 Speaker 24: aware of that. And then tonight we also have Doug DeVos. 1476 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 24: He's the chairman of Amway Grand Rapids, Michigan, and he'll 1477 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,679 Speaker 24: be with us tomorrow fifteen thousand live students worshiping together. 1478 01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 24: And Doug Davos will be the keynote at the convocation and. 1479 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,759 Speaker 28: EBA administrator Lee Heldon has been a hit everybody. 1480 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,360 Speaker 8: He's been talking about his remarks last night. 1481 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,519 Speaker 28: What can you say about the keynote speakers who were 1482 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 28: heavy hitters last night? 1483 01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 24: Lee Zelden hit it out of the park. Everyone said, 1484 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,639 Speaker 24: I couldn't believe how great that was. And then General 1485 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,080 Speaker 24: Flynn went off like a Baptist preacher. He said, he says, 1486 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,000 Speaker 24: I was raised Catholic and I'm Cathy. I said, man, 1487 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 24: you sound like a Baptist last night. He was ranting 1488 01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,559 Speaker 24: and doing great. And then Liz Trust kind of for me. 1489 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,760 Speaker 24: She's my favorite. She's the former Prime Minister of the 1490 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,000 Speaker 24: United Kingdom, and she hit it out of the park 1491 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:50,439 Speaker 24: as well. 1492 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 28: She was very impressive. So Terrence, the rock stars keep coming. 1493 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,080 Speaker 28: It's been a really successful summit so far. 1494 01:15:58,320 --> 01:15:59,080 Speaker 24: Yeah, thanks all. 1495 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 21: Av absolutely, thank you guys for your reporting. Sounds like 1496 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,719 Speaker 21: lots of fun. And of course we'll have continued coverage 1497 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 21: here on Real America's Voice. 1498 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:15,639 Speaker 1: Ad sad. 1499 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 15: Waking Up. 1500 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,720 Speaker 20: Oh you should get over that quickly. 1501 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,479 Speaker 17: One brainwashed radical at a time. 1502 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 20: That's enough. 1503 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:29,519 Speaker 13: It's the Charlie Kirk Show. 1504 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:32,040 Speaker 15: All right. 1505 01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,599 Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Charlie Kirk Show. 1506 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,920 Speaker 12: Andrew Colvitt here, executive producer of the show, joined with 1507 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 12: Jack Pisobic, who's helping me out today since Blake is 1508 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:42,880 Speaker 12: on the road. 1509 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for that. 1510 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 4: Andrew needed a lot of paper towels after he spilled 1511 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,040 Speaker 4: his curried coffee all over himself. 1512 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:49,559 Speaker 1: I was lucky it didn't get on the computer. 1513 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,280 Speaker 13: Well, you kind of left your phone, but then I 1514 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 13: had to go and save your phone. 1515 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:54,519 Speaker 16: So well, I. 1516 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:58,759 Speaker 12: Appreciate that the drama unfolds continually here behind the scenes. 1517 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,439 Speaker 12: At the Charlie Kirk Show, you had a question for 1518 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 12: doctor set. 1519 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:07,680 Speaker 4: Doctor said, so, you know, we've identified this, it's it's spreading. 1520 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,320 Speaker 4: You've talked about it as if it's a parasite, which 1521 01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:14,559 Speaker 4: which continues. But we're also talking about anti venom. We're 1522 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:19,520 Speaker 4: also talking about potential cures. Is there a way to 1523 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 4: reach people who and again, but perhaps not so that 1524 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,040 Speaker 4: are some that are so far gone that they would, 1525 01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,400 Speaker 4: you know, pull the trigger themselves. But we also saw 1526 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 4: in the wake of Charlie's murder thousands upon thousands of 1527 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 4: people taking to social media celebrating, clapping, cheering this on. 1528 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,720 Speaker 4: And these were not card carrying members of Antifa. These 1529 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,599 Speaker 4: were people in positions of authority. 1530 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 15: There. 1531 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,760 Speaker 4: You saw, you had pilots, you had doctors, nurses, HR 1532 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:52,200 Speaker 4: departments all over the place where people seem to share. 1533 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,120 Speaker 13: In this belief. Is there any way to kind of 1534 01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:56,280 Speaker 13: break them out of this? 1535 01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,440 Speaker 20: Yeah, that's a great question. And one that I struggle 1536 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,400 Speaker 20: with often when I'm trying to decide whether to engage 1537 01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,360 Speaker 20: someone in terms of whether I could flip them, if 1538 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,760 Speaker 20: I could administer the mind vaccine to them or not. 1539 01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:13,240 Speaker 20: And it's not always obvious that your time is not 1540 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,479 Speaker 20: going to be wasted on some people. But I do think, 1541 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 20: and maybe here I'm being naively optimistic. I do think 1542 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:25,519 Speaker 20: that with enough showing of the evidence, people can come around. 1543 01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,920 Speaker 20: But it takes a lot of dogged efforts. So for example, 1544 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,280 Speaker 20: I had a person who in twenty ten I had 1545 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:36,920 Speaker 20: had a very very difficult email exchange with. Well, it 1546 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 20: took her fourteen years, but then last year she came 1547 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,280 Speaker 20: around and said, oh boy, I wish I could have 1548 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,479 Speaker 20: listened to you back in twenty ten. She was one 1549 01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:51,719 Speaker 20: of those super progressive liberal Jews who was very upset 1550 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,559 Speaker 20: that I was saying some detrimental things about Islam because 1551 01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,519 Speaker 20: her friend is a Muslim woman and she's very peaceful 1552 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 20: and kind and empathetic, and I was not adding to 1553 01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:06,080 Speaker 20: the ecosystem of love by spreading hateful things about Islam 1554 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,839 Speaker 20: and so on. Well, fourteen years later she said, oops, 1555 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 20: I guess I was wrong, So I'd like to think 1556 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 20: that with enough evidence, people can potentially be reached. But 1557 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,560 Speaker 20: here's where I'm going to hit you with the counterpoint 1558 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,519 Speaker 20: that's slightly more pessimistic. I was recently asked on a 1559 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,519 Speaker 20: show by a British psychiatrist, what is the singular thing 1560 01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:29,040 Speaker 20: that has most surprised me about human nature in all 1561 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 20: the years that I've studied human behavior? And I don't 1562 01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 20: think you're going to be happy to hear this. I said, 1563 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:38,439 Speaker 20: the difficulty to get someone to change their opinions once 1564 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,719 Speaker 20: they are fully anchored. So it takes a herculean effort, 1565 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,440 Speaker 20: but hopefully we're all up for the challenge. 1566 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,960 Speaker 12: Well, that's exactly why we were devoting so much, and 1567 01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 12: we are devoting so much of our energies, doctor said 1568 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,439 Speaker 12: to ensuring that these high school chapters get off the ground. 1569 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 1: I will never forget it was. 1570 01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,000 Speaker 12: We were an Aspen a couple weeks before we were 1571 01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,719 Speaker 12: having a retreat for for donors of Turning Point USA, 1572 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 12: and Charlie was working on the presentation the night before 1573 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,680 Speaker 12: he was going to present it to everybody, and his 1574 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 12: vision was very clear. He wanted a Club America Aptor 1575 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 12: in every high school in the country. And you know, 1576 01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:22,320 Speaker 12: getting getting to students before they get completely ideologically brainwashed 1577 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 12: at the university. University is where doctor sat is not 1578 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:26,679 Speaker 12: is not a professor. 1579 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,360 Speaker 1: Of course is critical. 1580 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,960 Speaker 12: Obviously the university chapters are critical as well. 1581 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,559 Speaker 1: But you see you you do see this. It's it's 1582 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:35,759 Speaker 1: very it's very interesting. 1583 01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:41,040 Speaker 12: I'm learning something with this clip right because this gentleman 1584 01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 12: from Midas Touch, his name's Adam. I guess he is 1585 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,320 Speaker 12: clipping it for his audience, and his audience loves it. 1586 01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:51,799 Speaker 12: Because I refuse to disavow the New York Republicans, young Republicans. 1587 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,400 Speaker 13: Well, they also talked over you. You did. 1588 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,040 Speaker 12: I basically said, listen, I'm willing to have a conversation 1589 01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,280 Speaker 12: about it, but until you tell me that you're willing 1590 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:05,679 Speaker 12: to disavow the John Uh what I just blamed J Jones? 1591 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 1: Gosh J Jones two. 1592 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:10,240 Speaker 12: Jay's J Jones, Attorney General candidate Democrat in. 1593 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:11,879 Speaker 13: The state of James in Michigan. 1594 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,000 Speaker 1: I realized, J Jones. 1595 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,760 Speaker 12: So until you're willing to actually tell him he needs 1596 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,840 Speaker 12: to drop out of the race, then listen, we have 1597 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:19,760 Speaker 12: we're gonna we're gonna be at an impass here. I'm 1598 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:21,400 Speaker 12: willing to have a conversation about some of the things 1599 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 12: that were said. I don't agree with some of the 1600 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,120 Speaker 12: things that were said. I don't understand the context of them. 1601 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,759 Speaker 12: But this is what's funny. We are in this hyper 1602 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,440 Speaker 12: polarized environment because I have never gotten so many compliments 1603 01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 12: from people about my performance last night, saying based you know, 1604 01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,120 Speaker 12: way to go, way, not to way, not to you know, 1605 01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,519 Speaker 12: they were proud of me for not doing the disavow 1606 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,200 Speaker 12: ritual on stage with Chris Cuomo and this Midas touch 1607 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,040 Speaker 12: kick because that's what he wanted. He wanted this clip 1608 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,040 Speaker 12: to be able to put it on social media. There 1609 01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,559 Speaker 12: was no civil dialogue, there was none of this. And 1610 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,720 Speaker 12: it does raise an interesting point about. 1611 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:52,839 Speaker 1: You know, social media. 1612 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 12: I'm being told by authorities a lot of this stuff 1613 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,240 Speaker 12: happens on gamer chats, right, This is a lot of 1614 01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:02,000 Speaker 12: this radicalization fully InCor bring into these ideas happening on 1615 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:06,160 Speaker 12: these discord chats and things like this. So what is 1616 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,080 Speaker 12: the solution when it comes to the fact that we 1617 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,200 Speaker 12: are just living in completely different algorithms where we seem 1618 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,479 Speaker 12: to be getting further apart because of the machines. 1619 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,599 Speaker 20: Yeah, well, I mean I try to do my part 1620 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 20: in terms of reaching the young people at the university level. 1621 01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,160 Speaker 20: But I think what made you know to your original 1622 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,960 Speaker 20: question about Charlie's legacy the fact that he's able to 1623 01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 20: reach Nobody wants to listen to, you know, a sixty 1624 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,760 Speaker 20: one year old professor with gray hair. But people want 1625 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,559 Speaker 20: kids want to listen to Charlie, right because he seems 1626 01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:41,839 Speaker 20: only slightly older than them, and his brilliance is actually, 1627 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,160 Speaker 20: I mean, it really needs to be highlighted. Let me 1628 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:47,479 Speaker 20: draw an analogy when I teach consumer psychology and I 1629 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:51,559 Speaker 20: explain to the students that we can't sell chewing gum 1630 01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,200 Speaker 20: to ten year olds because they don't yet have the 1631 01:22:55,360 --> 01:23:00,760 Speaker 20: cognitive apparatus to fight against the advertising message message that's 1632 01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,200 Speaker 20: thrown at them. So that's why all the ideal logues 1633 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,080 Speaker 20: try to get to your children early, right. That's why 1634 01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:11,400 Speaker 20: we have you know, twerking drag queens for during you know, 1635 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,360 Speaker 20: reading hour when they're five and six years old, because 1636 01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:18,640 Speaker 20: the ideologues understand that we need to get to the 1637 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:24,400 Speaker 20: children very early before they have developed the cognitive armory 1638 01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,800 Speaker 20: to protect themselves against the nonsense. And so I did 1639 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,000 Speaker 20: my part at the university level. God willing, you guys 1640 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,240 Speaker 20: will be doing it at an earlier age bracket, and 1641 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,240 Speaker 20: hopefully we can administer the mind vaccine. 1642 01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:41,400 Speaker 12: Globally well, and that's a great place to kind of 1643 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:42,280 Speaker 12: pivot a little bit. 1644 01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:42,920 Speaker 1: I want to talk. 1645 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:48,320 Speaker 12: About this AOC Bernie Sanders town hall doctor said, you know, well, 1646 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,439 Speaker 12: they were talking about social media, so let's play this 1647 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:51,360 Speaker 12: clib two forty eight. 1648 01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,360 Speaker 14: It does Republican messaging on social media seem so much 1649 01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,120 Speaker 14: more effective than democratic messaging and what can we do 1650 01:23:59,160 --> 01:23:59,559 Speaker 14: about it? 1651 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:06,840 Speaker 3: Well, that's a great question. All I think the Republicans 1652 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 3: are effective. They have learned a lot about social media. 1653 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,760 Speaker 3: And by the way, it doesn't hurt that they are 1654 01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:21,559 Speaker 3: friends on all of the major social media platform. 1655 01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,120 Speaker 1: That's actually inaccurate. 1656 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,320 Speaker 12: But you know, there is this thought that I've been having, 1657 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 12: doctor sad, is that this reaction that they're resorting to violence. 1658 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,600 Speaker 12: There is this thought that it keeps occurring to me, 1659 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,439 Speaker 12: you know, and I said this last night at the 1660 01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:33,800 Speaker 12: town hall. 1661 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:34,959 Speaker 1: You just need better ideas. 1662 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,080 Speaker 12: I mean, part of the reason that the left is 1663 01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,640 Speaker 12: losing the social media battle is because their ideas do 1664 01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,639 Speaker 12: not hold up to scrutiny. And once they are allowed 1665 01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:48,880 Speaker 12: to be scrutinized in an equal setting equal footing, they 1666 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,800 Speaker 12: tend to fall apart, ours go viral because their common sense. 1667 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,280 Speaker 4: I can I say something about X and ELO, which, 1668 01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,559 Speaker 4: by the way, the only one right we have like X 1669 01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,920 Speaker 4: and I guess like a little bit of CBS right now, 1670 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,400 Speaker 4: maybe I don't know, you know. 1671 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:01,040 Speaker 3: And. 1672 01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:07,040 Speaker 4: Elon didn't come in and start boosting conservatives though. What 1673 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:11,000 Speaker 4: he did is he came in and he stopped banning conservatives, 1674 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:16,080 Speaker 4: he stopped censoring conservatives, and he instituted one tier standard 1675 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,960 Speaker 4: for everyone. And then he also instituted community notes and 1676 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,679 Speaker 4: all the rest. And that, for some reason to them 1677 01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,040 Speaker 4: made them so upset that they all started running over 1678 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,320 Speaker 4: to Blue Sky. It wasn't in a boost of engagement 1679 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,920 Speaker 4: that Bernie Sanders is saying. It was actually leveling the 1680 01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:32,879 Speaker 4: playing field to an equal standard. 1681 01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,080 Speaker 20: Indeed, so I'll just yeah, maybe I'll add a point. 1682 01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,400 Speaker 20: So it is true, of course that in the battle 1683 01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 20: of ideas, the conservative ideas, of course we would all agree, 1684 01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,719 Speaker 20: are much better than the progressive ones. But I want 1685 01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:50,280 Speaker 20: to introduce a slight cosmetic point that speaks to sort 1686 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:54,639 Speaker 20: of the virility on social media. In my happiness book, 1687 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:59,439 Speaker 20: the book After the Parasitic Mind, I talk about the research, 1688 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,599 Speaker 20: not my own research, but there's unequivocal research that shows 1689 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:08,960 Speaker 20: that on average, conservative score much higher on happiness than 1690 01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:13,240 Speaker 20: do progressives and liberals. And the research is unequivocal, so 1691 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,920 Speaker 20: that if you look at the reason, by the way, 1692 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,480 Speaker 20: if I can just explain it very quickly, the conservative, 1693 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,960 Speaker 20: i argue, wakes up in the morning. He may not 1694 01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:25,200 Speaker 20: live in a perfect society, but there are things worth conserving. 1695 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 20: If you are a conservative by the definition of that term. 1696 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:33,760 Speaker 20: The progressive wakes up with unbelievable existential angst. I live 1697 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:39,520 Speaker 20: in a supremacist society, white supremacy, transphobic, islamophobic, built on slavery. 1698 01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,240 Speaker 20: Therefore I need to eradicate the current society, and around 1699 01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:47,479 Speaker 20: the corner they'll be unicornea. So I'm sullen, I'm dour, 1700 01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,880 Speaker 20: I'm angry. Look at Bernie Sanders, I mean he is 1701 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:54,880 Speaker 20: more scary looking than you know, the black mamba. Whereas 1702 01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,439 Speaker 20: you look at you guys, you look at all of 1703 01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:01,880 Speaker 20: the beautiful women on Fox. They look happy, They are 1704 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,240 Speaker 20: easy to on the eyes. And so I think that 1705 01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,800 Speaker 20: certainly is an additional element beyond just the quality of 1706 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:13,280 Speaker 20: the ideas that makes people more drawn to some of 1707 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,360 Speaker 20: the leading conservative figures. 1708 01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,320 Speaker 12: That's I think that's a really smart point. I've never 1709 01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,760 Speaker 12: actually thought about that thought about it that way. Doctors said, 1710 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,000 Speaker 12: we live in a state of gratitude and of a 1711 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:28,759 Speaker 12: sense of I would say obligation of duty to conserve 1712 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,479 Speaker 12: the good, the true, and the beautiful things. We're grateful 1713 01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 12: for things, we have joy knowing that they exist. The 1714 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 12: progressive mind lives in a state of existential dread because 1715 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,599 Speaker 12: they believe the world is not good, true, or beautiful 1716 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,439 Speaker 12: right now, and they want to make it that way, 1717 01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,519 Speaker 12: and so they're willing to tear down all the edifices 1718 01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,439 Speaker 12: they see as in between them and their utopia that 1719 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,800 Speaker 12: is simply never going to exist on planet Earth. And 1720 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,960 Speaker 12: that dichotomy is why you liberals tend to wear their 1721 01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,200 Speaker 12: dread on their face, whereas conservatives tend to be happy. 1722 01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,559 Speaker 1: We tend to be Joe. And it was funny because I. 1723 01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,040 Speaker 4: Would also kind of like like like it's like self effacing, 1724 01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:05,360 Speaker 4: right ya. 1725 01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,040 Speaker 13: It's like it's like you you you hate yourself, so 1726 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:09,960 Speaker 13: you look worse and then it is like you know 1727 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:10,320 Speaker 13: what I mean. 1728 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,360 Speaker 12: But it's funny because I you know, sometimes I would 1729 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,679 Speaker 12: notice on social media in the wake of this tragedy, 1730 01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,960 Speaker 12: Doctor Sad that some people would say, oh, you guys 1731 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,360 Speaker 12: aren't mourning enough, and it's like, okay. First of all, 1732 01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,920 Speaker 12: like that's not true. If you if you could just 1733 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,360 Speaker 12: see us in private. But secondly, we do not mourn 1734 01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,639 Speaker 12: the way the world mourns. I have faith that Charlie 1735 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,960 Speaker 12: is staring Jesus in the face, and that's our Christian faith. 1736 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,280 Speaker 12: And I believe that he is h he's wearing a 1737 01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,280 Speaker 12: crown of glory, and he's a he's a martyr for 1738 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,439 Speaker 12: the faith and for the country. I believe that God 1739 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:46,799 Speaker 12: has a plan. I trust God's plan. I don't understand 1740 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,080 Speaker 12: God's plan. I don't have to like God's plan all 1741 01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 12: the time, at least in my flesh, but I trust it, 1742 01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:55,839 Speaker 12: and there is there is a sense of higher purpose 1743 01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,960 Speaker 12: at play that I am willing to you park my 1744 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,400 Speaker 12: emotions in my flesh at the door and trust the Lord. 1745 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:05,280 Speaker 12: I wanna keep going with you, Doctor Sad in the breaks. 1746 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:06,960 Speaker 1: This is just so fun. Thank you so much. 1747 01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,519 Speaker 12: We're gonna keep going with Doctor Gad Sad and Jack Pistobic. 1748 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:10,080 Speaker 1: One second. 1749 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,960 Speaker 17: The Voice of Generations is the Charlie Kirk Show. 1750 01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,160 Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. 1751 01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:28,280 Speaker 12: We're gonna have doctor Sad back in just a minute. 1752 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:32,120 Speaker 1: First, I want to tell you about why REFI Why Refy. 1753 01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:36,559 Speaker 12: Not only are they an important service that you guys 1754 01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,599 Speaker 12: can use, but they are amazing. 1755 01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:39,960 Speaker 1: People saw them this week. 1756 01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:45,760 Speaker 12: They came into Washington tool to watch the presentation of 1757 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:49,519 Speaker 12: the Presidential Medal of Freedom ceremony, and I got to 1758 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:51,840 Speaker 12: just tell them how grateful I am to them and 1759 01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,760 Speaker 12: for all that they've done for Charlie, for turning and 1760 01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,599 Speaker 12: for this show. 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So many 1795 01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,519 Speaker 12: of you tuned in to hear from JD Vance, James Blair, 1796 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,280 Speaker 12: Caroline Levitt and Russ Vogue. So thank you for that. 1797 01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:38,320 Speaker 12: More with doctor Gad Sad when we welcome back radio 1798 01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:53,960 Speaker 12: in about five seconds, welcome. 1799 01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:54,840 Speaker 1: Back to Charlie Kirks Show. 1800 01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,240 Speaker 12: We have Doctor Scad Sad from the South, he's a 1801 01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,639 Speaker 12: Southerner now and Jack Sobic Human Events Daily with Jack 1802 01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:02,840 Speaker 12: Pisova coming on next. 1803 01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:04,600 Speaker 1: I want to play this other clip. 1804 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,599 Speaker 12: Doctor Sad, because it's again we're talking about this aoc 1805 01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:10,639 Speaker 12: Bernie town hall. Caroline Levitt's weighing in saying we now 1806 01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,040 Speaker 12: have the two new leaders of the Democrat Party. Tough 1807 01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:17,160 Speaker 12: to argue with that observation, but she can't. She really 1808 01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,559 Speaker 12: struggles to give Trump credit for this. 1809 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,439 Speaker 1: Peace deal in the Middle East, and. 1810 01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,280 Speaker 12: I want to dive into what that says at a 1811 01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,639 Speaker 12: deeper level about our politics in this country. 1812 01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:26,400 Speaker 1: Two sixty one. 1813 01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,720 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong about the ceasefire and Gaza. Do you 1814 01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:32,439 Speaker 2: believe President Trump deserves credit for that? 1815 01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:38,000 Speaker 7: Well, you know, I find these there have been several 1816 01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:41,439 Speaker 7: ceasefire announcements and developments that have happened over the past 1817 01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,360 Speaker 7: two years. As President Trump was on the plane back 1818 01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:48,639 Speaker 7: to the United States. There's already indications and questions about 1819 01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:50,240 Speaker 7: whether this ceasefire will hold. 1820 01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:52,800 Speaker 2: But do you give him credit? Do you give him 1821 01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,040 Speaker 2: credit though we're getting to this point where it did 1822 01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,400 Speaker 2: get those twenty hostages back home with their families. 1823 01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:01,439 Speaker 7: In this particular developed Yes, but we also know that 1824 01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:08,720 Speaker 7: President Trump was an obstacle to peace previously as well. 1825 01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:11,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so he was an obstacle. 1826 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:17,320 Speaker 12: The whole world celebrated when this happened, and everybody said 1827 01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,160 Speaker 12: that nobody could do this except for Trump, and yet 1828 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,599 Speaker 12: somehow he is an obstacle. She says, yes, he gets credit, 1829 01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,800 Speaker 12: but instantly has to say, oh, but the piece is fragile. Well, 1830 01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:28,280 Speaker 12: of course it's fragile, doctor said, what does this tell 1831 01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,519 Speaker 12: us about the state of politics where we can't leave 1832 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,720 Speaker 12: our domestic issues at the shoreline like we used to 1833 01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:37,880 Speaker 12: and sort of present a united front internationally. 1834 01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,400 Speaker 20: You know, I thank you for that question, because in 1835 01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,000 Speaker 20: the way that I'm going to answer it, it shows 1836 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:48,360 Speaker 20: the power of studying psychology and behavioral science. So here's 1837 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,840 Speaker 20: the answer to your wonderful question. There is a great 1838 01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:56,280 Speaker 20: book by two French cognitive psychologists by name of Sperber 1839 01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:59,599 Speaker 20: and Mercier. The book is titled The Enigma of Reason, 1840 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,479 Speaker 20: where they argued that our capacity to reason did not 1841 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:09,679 Speaker 20: evolve in order to achieve some objective truth, but rather 1842 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,160 Speaker 20: it evolved to win arguments, so that even when we 1843 01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:17,200 Speaker 20: are applying our faculty of reasoning, we are doing it 1844 01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:20,960 Speaker 20: in a tribal, coalitional manner. Right, so it doesn't matter 1845 01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,840 Speaker 20: if Andrew convinces me that my position is wrong, and 1846 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,479 Speaker 20: therefore I will have the humility to say, thank you 1847 01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,639 Speaker 20: for correcting me. Andrew, you're right and I was wrong. 1848 01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,960 Speaker 20: I will double down, triple down forevermore because my team 1849 01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:39,120 Speaker 20: can't lose. That's exactly what AOC is showing. She is 1850 01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:43,639 Speaker 20: showing that she's not an honest interlocutor. All that matters 1851 01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:47,439 Speaker 20: is that I don't give credit where credit is due. 1852 01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,599 Speaker 20: I can never accept the fact that Trump might have 1853 01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:54,479 Speaker 20: done something that was decent, and therefore I'm going to 1854 01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,000 Speaker 20: try to avoid giving him to do credit. 1855 01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:00,400 Speaker 1: Jack anything that add to that. 1856 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:06,519 Speaker 4: So I suppose is it possible then that we are 1857 01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:09,639 Speaker 4: able to return to a point in this country where 1858 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:14,719 Speaker 4: things like being an American are where what we see 1859 01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:17,439 Speaker 4: as our tribe. And this is one of the reasons 1860 01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:21,080 Speaker 4: that I think that Trump's defense of the American flag, 1861 01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,880 Speaker 4: of fighting against the kneeling at the during the national 1862 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:29,400 Speaker 4: anthem during the Super Bowl and NFL games, that if 1863 01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:33,160 Speaker 4: you bring everyone under one umbrella of saying we're all 1864 01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:37,639 Speaker 4: American citizens, we may disagreements on on our SEC team 1865 01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:40,240 Speaker 4: and our our our super Bowl team. Or Andrew and 1866 01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,600 Speaker 4: I are crosswise because his Dodgers beat my Phillies in 1867 01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:45,880 Speaker 4: the UH in the darn nearest way. 1868 01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:48,200 Speaker 13: Okay, all right, I remember, thank you. 1869 01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:49,320 Speaker 1: You didn't make it interesting. 1870 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,559 Speaker 4: It's good the one. Okay, it was eighty two, the one. Anyway, 1871 01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:55,720 Speaker 4: we's up too many menum base. But the point is 1872 01:35:55,960 --> 01:36:00,200 Speaker 4: we can still all be American. And I think that 1873 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,600 Speaker 4: it's it's it's the messing around with those nuts and 1874 01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:07,320 Speaker 4: bolts of the country that have gotten us to this place. 1875 01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:11,760 Speaker 20: Yeah. Let me give you an example. I recently had 1876 01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:15,320 Speaker 20: on my show n Escandor Freedom, the former NBA player 1877 01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,920 Speaker 20: right who retired from Boston Celtics. Right now. This guy 1878 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,559 Speaker 20: is from Muslim background, but I don't care that he's Muslim, 1879 01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,040 Speaker 20: even though I don't have nice things to say about Islam, 1880 01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:28,960 Speaker 20: because he exemplifies the types of immigrants that we want 1881 01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:31,120 Speaker 20: in the United States or in the West. He comes 1882 01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:33,439 Speaker 20: to the United States and says, I want to be 1883 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,799 Speaker 20: to jackspoint, I want to be united under the common 1884 01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:40,360 Speaker 20: rubric called the United States. I'm Canadian, yet I'm at 1885 01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,080 Speaker 20: Old Miss at a center called the Declaration of Independence 1886 01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:48,720 Speaker 20: Center for the Study of American Freedom, because I embody 1887 01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,760 Speaker 20: and I'd like to think I exemplify all of the 1888 01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:56,200 Speaker 20: values of American exceptionalism. So you're exactly spot on. No 1889 01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:59,800 Speaker 20: more hyphenated Americans. If you are American, you believe in 1890 01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:03,040 Speaker 20: our foundational principles, and then welcome in, my brother. If 1891 01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,280 Speaker 20: you don't, don't let the door hit your ass on 1892 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:05,760 Speaker 20: the way out. 1893 01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:09,800 Speaker 1: And that is a perfect place to leave it. 1894 01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:14,519 Speaker 12: Doctor Gad, said a Southerner from who's rooting for Old Miss. 1895 01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:17,720 Speaker 12: I never thought i'd see the day, but it's We're 1896 01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:22,040 Speaker 12: all building bridges, were building post September tenth. I think 1897 01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:24,840 Speaker 12: it's fitting somehow, doctor said, thank you for so much 1898 01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:28,280 Speaker 12: of your time. All right, Jack shows up next, don't 1899 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:39,760 Speaker 12: miss it.