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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. As is

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Speaker 1: draft experts, including Daniel Jeremiah among others, believe that these

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Speaker 1: this because I don't think it's you know, it's worth

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Speaker 1: a link in penny. But Stephen A. Smith was saying

431
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Speaker 1: the Bills should be one of the teams that should

432
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Speaker 1: try to secure Julio Jones for their team, and that's

433
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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. Come on, bro, it's ridiculous, Like they're not

434
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Speaker 1: gonna and I'll here's why a few year old wide receiver,

435
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Speaker 1: even if you traded a number one for Julio's Jones,

436
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Speaker 1: a thirtieth overall pick for Julio Jones, a thirty two

437
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Speaker 1: year old why receiver who's been iconic. It's gonna cost

438
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Speaker 1: you seventeen million financially. It doesn't do it financially, And

439
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: he's not going to sign a new deal. Why would he?

440
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Speaker 1: So it's just not gonna happen. Plus, fine, you got

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones. He's a tremendous player, even at thirty two,

442
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Speaker 1: no question about it. Why would he take what a

443
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Speaker 1: ten million dollar haircut when he doesn't have to. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a generational player. I get the talent level even

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Speaker 1: at his advanced age, But financially it does not work. Here.

446
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Speaker 1: You are on the precipice of committing gigantic money to

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. To take on that kind of salary for

448
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Speaker 1: a thirty two year old receiver, even one as good

449
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Speaker 1: as Julio Jones, is fiscally irresponsible. Yeah so, I look,

450
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Speaker 1: I realized what you're gonna have to get give up

451
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Speaker 1: to get him? Yeah, whatever that is. And it's really

452
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Speaker 1: kind of irrelevant because the money precludes you do in

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Speaker 1: that deal. He's get too much money. You got three

454
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Speaker 1: million dollars a cap space. You have to cut nine guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm exaggerated. You have to cut a bunch of guys

456
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Speaker 1: and he won't have fifty one players on your roster.

457
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Speaker 1: You couldn't get under the cap. So I mean, they

458
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Speaker 1: restructure it, okay, but what I gotta do. It's just

459
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Speaker 1: it's crazy talking. And then there was the press conference

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Speaker 1: pre draft press conference by San Francisco general manager John

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Speaker 1: Lynch and head coach Kyle Shanahan. And I want to

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Speaker 1: pull this up because it's worth reading in terms of

463
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Speaker 1: providing some insight on what they are thinking with respect

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback pick at three, and Shanahan was people

465
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Speaker 1: were fishing the whole time Steve as to the future

466
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Speaker 1: of Jimmy Garoppolo, and he threw out like, hey, is

467
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo going to be on your roster this season?

468
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Speaker 1: And Shanahan went with the apparently this is a line

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Speaker 1: he's used before. Well, you can't guarantee anybody in the

470
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Speaker 1: world's going to be alive on Sunday, so I can't

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Speaker 1: guarantee that. He almost makes it sound ridiculous to deflect

472
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Speaker 1: and not really answer the question. But to the credit

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Speaker 1: of the San Francisco media. They did follow up with him,

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Speaker 1: and so this is what he said about Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 1: So I want you to listen to this, Steve, and

476
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Speaker 1: tell me what you think it says about who is

477
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Speaker 1: more likely to be the third overall pick, Trey Lance

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Speaker 1: or Mac Jones, which the forty nine ers are supposedly

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Speaker 1: down to in their decision making process. Shanahan says, this,

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing with Jimmy is his injuries. It's been

481
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Speaker 1: very tough for us when he's been hurt. This happened

482
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Speaker 1: two of the last three years. That's where it starts.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy knows that I've been very upfront with him with

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Speaker 1: everything we've been zooming these last two weeks. Excited to

485
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Speaker 1: get him in here coming up, especially when the draft

486
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Speaker 1: is over. But I feel very fortunate taking a rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterback that we do have a guy like Jimmy. We

488
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Speaker 1: didn't sign a guy who's capable or has the history

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Speaker 1: of being a starter right away. We have a guy

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Speaker 1: every time he's been the starter, he's played at a

491
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Speaker 1: high level. So to have that with Jimmy, with having

492
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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, gives us a lot of leeway into this.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to set anything in stone, but I

494
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Speaker 1: know that's the situation that would be hard to get

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Speaker 1: rid of. When you take a rookie quarterback and you

496
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Speaker 1: take a veteran like Jimmy, who we know we can

497
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Speaker 1: win with. Just to move on from that is something

498
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Speaker 1: that's not easy to do. That is a good situation

499
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Speaker 1: for us, and I think that is something that will

500
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Speaker 1: be important to us this year. All right, interpretation, Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Let me just ask you, if you're

502
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Speaker 1: gonna go up and you see the quarterbacks that are

503
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Speaker 1: going to be available, and you got a handle on

504
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Speaker 1: if a if not a completely formulated opinion about guys

505
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Speaker 1: that are going to be available, and you know who

506
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Speaker 1: they are. It's not going to be Trevor Lawrence. He's

507
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: going to be gone. And it's and once the Jets

508
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Speaker 1: had their pro day with Zach Wilson, you figure, Okay,

509
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's there. Guys, it seems obvious. Now, Okay, who's left.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Mac Jones. Those

511
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Speaker 1: are the only three viable candidates to be picked at

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Speaker 1: that spot at number three. If we jump up to

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Speaker 1: number three are those are our choices? Here's and if

514
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Speaker 1: I'm I and I thought I was thinking about that.

515
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: I actually wrote this down in my phone so I

516
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Speaker 1: could remember to tell you this. Here's my thought about

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. They're saying, listen, mac Jones. If we get

518
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Speaker 1: mac Jones, it's gonna be kind of a lateral move.

519
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Jimmy Garoppolo to Mac Jurine. But it's

520
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Speaker 1: not gonna be worse than Jimmy, and he's probably gonna

521
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Speaker 1: be maybe a little bit more durable. We gonna count

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Speaker 1: on him. So the safety net of jumping up to

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Speaker 1: number three is we don't lose anything. We're still gonna

524
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Speaker 1: have a good team. We can win with mac Jones. Now,

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00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: we feel like he could come in because of his mind,

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Speaker 1: because of his the offense that he ran and what

527
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: he was asked to do at Alabama, he could run

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Speaker 1: our stuff and get it done. Jimmy Sea and what yes,

529
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Speaker 1: Or we can trade then trade Jimmy and save the

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Speaker 1: twenty three million dollars and we'll just go with million.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to pay twenty three million for that in

532
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Speaker 1: that scenario. Now, during the run up, you say okay, Max,

533
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: our safety. Now we got him, and which is what

534
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: they say when they trade up to get him. Now.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, Trey Lance is out there doing his

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Speaker 1: pro days. Justin Fields is out there doing his pro days,

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00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahan tells his boy, John Beck, who played

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Speaker 1: quarterback for him, Hey, run these guys through our stuff.

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00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: Tell me what you think is one of these guys

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Speaker 1: gonna be as good or better than Mac Jones in

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Speaker 1: a short while. Let me see Trey Lance knocks it

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Speaker 1: out of the park. Justin Fields knocks it out of

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00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: the park and say, and this guy, John Beck says, yes,

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Speaker 1: I you know what, this guy Justin Fields or whatever

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Speaker 1: you pick him on, Trey Lance, word that guy, he's

546
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: gonna he's got it. That's your guy. He's gonna be good,

547
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be good a little faster. He may

548
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: take a year, two years, but that's your guy. So

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00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: then the Niners are in a position to say, oh, okay,

550
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: our safety net Mac Jones is okay, But if we

551
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: want now, we'll take a guy with a higher ceiling.

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Speaker 1: Hang on to Jimmy, let Jimmy start. Let this guy

553
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: just state for a year, then trade Jimmy, and we're

554
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: in the saddle going for yeah, and hope that Jimmy

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00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: stays healthy for a season. I think this statement by

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Speaker 1: Shanahan corroborates the report that they haven't decided between Lance

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Speaker 1: and Jones. I think that's what this answer says, because

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00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: they're basically saying, it's a good situation that we have

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Speaker 1: if we have Jimmy and we don't have a guy

560
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: that can start right away, but if we have a

561
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: guy that can start right away, you know whatever. Right,

562
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Speaker 1: So if they pick Mac Jones, Jimmy's for sale, that's right,

563
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: and that Jimmy Smith's starting, Jimmy's starting probably meant and

564
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: he's mentoring Alex Smith Pat Mahomes. But that fact that

565
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: he left that now he might be leaving the door

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Speaker 1: open here to leave all options on the table and

567
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: keep people guessing, yeah, they made they but saw me baby.

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Speaker 1: I think this comment by Kyle Shanahan corroborates the reports

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Speaker 1: that they haven't decided on Lance or Jones just yet,

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00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: so that is only added to the intrigue of numbers.

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Speaker 1: I think it makes a lot of sense though they

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00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: know they've got a guy that can get it done

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Speaker 1: in Mac Jones not great, his low ceiling, but Jimmy

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00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: Garoppolo got him to a super Bowl and with that

575
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: roster they got to feel like, yeah, we can do

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00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: that going forward, particularly with a quarterback. If we go

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00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones on his rookie contract, that extends our

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00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: window so that gives us a chance. And if Trey

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00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: Lance is the guy where you bring him in, let's

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00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: ride with Jimmy. Hope he stays healthy. Then then does

581
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: Niners don't have to go through Josh Allen's rookie year

582
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: with Trey Lance. They can let him sit and then

583
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: when if he does start the next year or the

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00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: year after, then they've got a guy that can actually

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Speaker 1: win with. Speaking of round number one, nobody knows what

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Speaker 1: the Bills are going to be faced with by the

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Speaker 1: time they're on the clock at thirty. There's way too

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00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: many variables sitting in front of them. But we pose

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00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: this situation to you. If the value is gone for

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00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: positions of need for the Bills, presumably edge rusher and

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Speaker 1: corner chief among them, what is your wild card pick,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a position or a specific player for the

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Speaker 1: Bills at number thirty, positions of value cleaned out by

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Speaker 1: the time the Bills are on the clock at thirty.

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Speaker 1: Who is your wild card pick for Buffalo? Get on

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Speaker 1: the phones and let us know eight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty

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00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: have open lines for you there, or hit us up

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. Steve and

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Speaker 1: I back in a moment here on one Bills Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve's tasking with you

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Speaker 1: here on a Tuesday before the twenty one NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: And that's obviously what we're talking about here on the

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00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: Twitter poll today. If the value is gone for the

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00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: perceived positions of need for the Bills, namely edge rusher

607
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: and cornerback, the board's cleaned out at those two spots

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00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: by the time the Bills are on the clock at thirty.

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Speaker 1: What's your wild card pick? You can choose a position,

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00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: or if you have a specific player in mind, you

611
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: can do that too. What is your wild card pick

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Speaker 1: for the Bills at thirty? In that scenario eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty the number to get on board. We have

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Speaker 1: open phone lines here right through until the third hour

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Speaker 1: or the show, when we'll be welcoming in Tony Pauline,

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft analyst. We'll be joining us then give us

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Speaker 1: some of the lowdown on some of the rumors he's

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Speaker 1: hearing just forty eight hours or so away from the

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Speaker 1: start of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the phones first and jumping on board

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Speaker 1: and leading us off today is Tom in Lackawana. Tom,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bill's

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00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: live a weather balloon, Guys, a weather balloon. We're not

625
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: even enough realm of possibility. Yeah, I know we're trying

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00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: to change that. Open Well, we'll stop talking about a

627
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: blimp soon, hopefully, I'm hoping with a new draft and

628
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 1: some new players, maybe we'll get a new opener. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know you can start a letter writing campaign if

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00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: you want, Tom, We'll fully support it. What do you

631
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: got for us if those ones are gone? I still

632
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: think there might be a usable cornerback depending I like Stokes,

633
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 1: but that's reaching past the top five. So I would

634
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: then go wide receiver, whether it be Elijah Moore real hopeful,

635
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: maybe Tony would be there or what's the guy's name

636
00:34:53,920 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: from Minnesota, Rotan Bateman Bateman? Right, um, because Sanders is

637
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: only for a year and Beasley might fall into what

638
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: happened to Brown this year. If we need the money

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00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: for Edmonds and Allen, Yeah, it's in a stete point time.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not too early to build another wide

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00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: receiver in Yeah. Yeah, I don't argue with that at all.

642
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: You actually brought up some of the things, some of

643
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: the thoughts that I had in this kind of scenario.

644
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: I think Stokes is a sleeper corner pick for the

645
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: Bills at thirty. Some people believe that is too high.

646
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I think he has elite traits that the

647
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: Bills look for. At the top of the draft runs

648
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: a four two nine. You want somebody to keep up

649
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: with Tyreek Hill, there's your guy. Yeah, I'm talking about

650
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: so And he's got ball production, certainly more than his

651
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: teammate Tyson Campbell. So I like Stokes better than Campbell

652
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, and it's due in part to the

653
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: ball production. I think he's also a better run supporter

654
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: than Tyson Campbell's teammate, and so because of that, I

655
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: think he's a better fit for the Bills in terms

656
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: of what they look for in their corners. So I

657
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't rule it out at thirty. I really wouldn't. I

658
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: think Stokes is a real option there for them, and

659
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: not much has been said about him because I don't

660
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: think a lot of people, or maybe the majority of

661
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: NFL teams don't have him at the bottom of that

662
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: top tier. I think he's right off the top tier.

663
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: And if you're drafting thirty at this Brandon being said himself,

664
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: you're practically drafting in the second round already. So if

665
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: you like the kid enough and you think he's a

666
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 1: fit for what you do defensively, go get him. Yeah,

667
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: I think I agree with you. It would just make

668
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 1: me feel so comfortable, unhappy if they draft a corner.

669
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't care who it is. Just get a corner.

670
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: I know that Levi Wallace is here and he's gonna

671
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: play well. I think at thirty it seems to me

672
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: at thirty it's hard to find an edge rusher who's

673
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: gonna step in and go, Wow, where did this guy

674
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: come from? Right at corner, you can you can get

675
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: it done so, and I love the guy. He's got

676
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: great speed, he's got good ball, skilled, the whole thing.

677
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are gonna play Tennessee. The just

678
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: got steamrolled and it warmed my heart. So I just

679
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: think I'm with you. That's the two Georgia kids really

680
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: intrigued me because they're both extremely fast, they got great

681
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: straight line and now certainly they each have both they

682
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: each have gifts. It's uh Stokes and Tyson Campbell. Both

683
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: those guys I think are really good or you know,

684
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: just kind of sleepers, but they have some traits that

685
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: really translate. So I'm I am right now today, I'm

686
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: just thinking cornerback, cornerback, cornerback, cornerback. Yeah, I don't think

687
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: you can rule out edge depending on what's there. But

688
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: Tom and Lackawana also brought up the receiver proposition, and

689
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: I think that is a sneaky option for Buffalo at

690
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: thirty if the right thing is on the board. Now,

691
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: does it ideally answer some of what they're dealing with now, No,

692
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: But I think at the same time, Tom's point is

693
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: well made. You've got Emmanuel Sanders here for a year,

694
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: and you've got Cole Beasley who is coming off the

695
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: most productive season of his career. But at age thirty three,

696
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: do you start to worry about the body breaking down.

697
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: It's a lot of snaps. Receivers put a lot of

698
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: mileage on the tires every single year, especially in this offense,

699
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: and we saw the cumulative effects of that affect Beasley

700
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: last season at the end of the year when he

701
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: had a cracked fibula. So I do believe that the

702
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: two receivers they drafted last year, and Gabriel Davis and

703
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins are two players that they firmly believe have

704
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: a future on this roster. But is that good enough

705
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: to go with going forward? And I know Jake Kumero

706
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: is an intriguing guy that they want to see more

707
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: of this year in training camp in the preseason, but

708
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: it would I don't think it would preclude them from

709
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: draftings either. I just think more of us feel it's

710
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: likely on Day two or three than on Day one.

711
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: I think if that if they draft a wide receiver

712
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: that high at thirty, yeah, that's a shot across the

713
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: bow of the draft picks they made last year. And

714
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: the guys on the roster, Kumero and Isaiah Hodgins most notably,

715
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: they feel like Hodgens has got a step up, and

716
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: they watched the guy every day. They liked him, right,

717
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: They liked him a lot. They liked your injury. Right.

718
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: So if they do draft someboddies because like him or not,

719
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: they don't know that he's gonna come around. Now you've

720
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: said too with me, Hodgens is a guy that can

721
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: play slot. He does. He'd be a much different slot

722
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: receiver than Todsley, but nevertheless effective for different reasons. So

723
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, they may be thinking that way, which may

724
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: preclude themselves. We already got this guy on the shelf.

725
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: We don't need to We got depth. He's gonna be.

726
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: In fact, we're planning or kind of. He may be

727
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: our sixth guy active this year instead of whoever was

728
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: last year. So that to me is something. We don't

729
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: know how they feel about the guys down the line

730
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver, because they got some guys in line there

731
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: should be We're thinking they're like, okay, you know, even

732
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: Duke Williams, you know, right, So I believe that the

733
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: point that Tom made is well founded. You've got a

734
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: thirty four year old Imanuel Sanders who's probably only here

735
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: for this season, you have of Cole Beasley where you're

736
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: encouraged by the production he put up last year, but

737
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: it's hard to ignore the fact that he is thirty three.

738
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: I know he has another year on his deal after

739
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: this season, but how he gets through this season I

740
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: think is largely going to determine whether he sees the

741
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: last year of that contract here in Buffalo. So now

742
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 1: it becomes how much faith do you have in Hodgens

743
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: to be his air apparent in the slot and winning

744
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: in much different ways and not a quick separator like

745
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: Beasley is. How much does that impact Josh Allen and

746
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: getting the ball out and then taking that a step further,

747
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: how does that address what you do in the draft?

748
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: And I think in this year's draft it is more

749
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: likely that they take a receiver late in the draft

750
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: and one that also has returnability because Andre Roberts is

751
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: not here anymore and you're looking to fill that role

752
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: as well. So you can get a kid late in

753
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: the draft and you're confident he can give you enough

754
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: as a sixth receiver when needed, much the way they

755
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: used Roberts last year here and there in spots, and

756
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 1: he's a dynamic returner. That's a worthwhile picking round five

757
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: or six. Right, that's what you're looking at exactly. You've

758
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: got to shuffle what you already have and play it

759
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: against what you don't or what you might have down

760
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: the road. And let's face it, if you to me,

761
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: if you're talking about the thirtieth pick, you're not talking

762
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: about a guy you're counting on being on the shelf

763
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: for a year. Hodgens last year, that's what happened because

764
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: of injury. At Plus, he wasn't a first he wasn't

765
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: a thirtieth pick. He was like a yeah, he's like

766
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: a one fifty six pick something like that. So that

767
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: makes a difference. You can't these draft picks are too

768
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: valuable to get a guy who you think, okay, maybe

769
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: in three years and only at quarterback, can you afford

770
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: to do now? And I know we got to get

771
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: the break Brandon Being did say we are drafting long term,

772
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: not short term. Now, to me, when Brandon Being and

773
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: says that it means not starting this year, but probably

774
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: starting next year, he's got m he's got here, right,

775
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: He's got to have started traits. He's gonna have starter traits. Yeah,

776
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: you're not gonna draft a guy with fifth round traits, thinking, Okay,

777
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna be Matt Milano, although that happened to him.

778
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: That's more often than not, it doesn't right break time

779
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: for us when we come back more of this discussion.

780
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: If value is gone for the perceived positions of need

781
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: for the Bills when they're on the clock at thirty,

782
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: what is your wild card pick? Give us a position,

783
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: Give us a player. Bobby and Lancaster, Paul and Buffalo,

784
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: Hang tight. We'll get to you guys when we return here.

785
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,879
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Speaker 1: Chris Brown Steve Tasker talking about on our Twitter poll

798
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: today a wild card pick for the Bills at thirty

799
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: in the event that the cupboard is bare at their

800
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: perceived need positions of cornerback, edge rusher. So we go

801
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: back to the phones at eight oh three five fifty

802
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: open line for you there, and we go to Bobby

803
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: and the Lancaster Bobby, what do you got for us

804
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live. Brownie, Steve, how are you

805
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: guys doing good? Doing good? I've been pretty much the

806
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: same thought as you guys. I'm gonna drop a little

807
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: knowledge here on you. What I say. I believe you's

808
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: agree with me. Just give me thirty seconds here now,

809
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: these guys, I swear to God, I'm gonna suck my

810
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: brain through my eyeball stock as if I hear one

811
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: more time that they're gonna draft a running back relegate

812
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: your last two third round picks and Mosston Singletary to

813
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: spot duty at back right. Brandon Bean will not do that.

814
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: He loved Singletary to begin with, anyway, Going further, it's

815
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: all defense in his draft. One guy that I'm gonna

816
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: give you offensively, which I believe they can get back

817
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: at the end of the second round sixty one is

818
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: Creed Humphreys center out of Oklahoma. Up here starter. He's

819
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: the beat and I'm by the way, with Mitch Morris's

820
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: concussion problems and also the salary factor, he would fit

821
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: right in where you don't have to move police, settle over,

822
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: you can keep your lying intact so you can go

823
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: with it from there. That would be the only offensive

824
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: player I'm looking at. We are perfect on offense. Defense

825
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: is where we need our help. Whether it be Edge Rusher,

826
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm with Steve on the corner, whether it be off

827
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: with Brandon Been I trust Bean. Maybe move back a

828
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: couple of picks, five, seven, eight picks and get another

829
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: second round here, and you're looking at a couple of

830
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: them cornerbacks from Georgia you can grab maybe, and that's

831
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: Edge Rusher. That's a project. I know o ol Brow

832
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: would be gone at all them guys, but there might

833
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: be somebody else there. You're looking and even I have

834
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: he said, three hundred thirty forty pounds guy in the

835
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: middle to stop the run because that's where our problems are.

836
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: You're looking at two defensive ends on the other side

837
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: of thirty, so you've got to draft the defensive ends

838
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: looking for big things from fins to this year, I

839
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: think he's slimmed down by twenty five pounds. Last year.

840
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: He puts on ten pounds of muscle. He could turn

841
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: into something that we didn't realize we had. You get

842
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: another edge rush here before you know it. The strength

843
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: of your team because these guys that are plus thirty,

844
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: they won't be around forever. Love Jerry Hughes, but he

845
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: won't be around forever. Remember this name. Creed Humphrey d

846
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: to the second round because you got to replace Mark

847
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: at some point next year with the problems that he has,

848
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: and we'll go from there. Everything else defense, I'll hang up.

849
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: Listen what you guys got, Yeah, a lot of ground

850
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: to cover their Bobby and thanks for the call. You

851
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: stole my thunder because that's guy was gonna be my surprise.

852
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: Brownie used the name Creed Humphrey in the last break

853
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about. Yeah, so maybe that's why

854
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: the crew put him through. I've got him as my

855
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: surprise pick for our draft streaming show on Thursday night,

856
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: right before the draft kicks off at eight o'clock, when

857
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: we're on at seven thirty online at Buffalo Bills dot

858
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: com and Twitter and Facebook page and all of that stuff.

859
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: I like Creed Humphrey, and I think if the cupboard's

860
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: bear at Corner, you don't like what's on the board

861
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: at edge Rusher, you don't think it's a fit, and

862
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: you can't find a trade partner to move back, you

863
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: could do a whole lot worse than Creed Humphrey. This

864
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: is a guy that's a three and a half year

865
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: starter and this past year he had to start with

866
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: four new linemen on either side of him, two new guards,

867
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: two new tackles, and that guy was the glue that

868
00:47:55,239 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: held it all together. Fantastic communicator, such a smart layer.

869
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: And we know Sean McDermott likes this former wrestler he's in. Uh,

870
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: there was a guy right there, the guy from Alabama.

871
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: He's listed a little higher on him. The guy from

872
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: Alabama has had some injury issues early in his career. Dickerson, Yeah,

873
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: just tore his ACL and the SEC title game, right,

874
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: So he's got Marcus did whether he'll even be ready

875
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: for this season. So I love Creed. Humphrey is a

876
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: great call. I'm I'm okay with I'm okay with anything

877
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: they do. I really am, whether it like like uh,

878
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: like Bobby said, there's no way they go running back

879
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: because you know they had they'll have three drafted running

880
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: backs on their roster. It'll be you kind of step

881
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: backward that way and you'll and as he as he

882
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: astutely pointed out, Steve, you're you. You draft Travis Etn

883
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: You're essentially relegating Singletary and Moss to spot duty. Right

884
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: if you especially now, if you think he makes you

885
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: that much better? All right, I get it. How's he

886
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: going to do that? I don't know. I don't know

887
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: in the scope of this offense, how a running back,

888
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: a new running back can make that much greater a difference.

889
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to hand he's more talented and he's

890
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: a home run hitter. But if you look, if you

891
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: look at the statistics, even for a team like the

892
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: Saints with Kamara, you've got a team that, even with

893
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: a big play threat like Kmara, makes the majority of

894
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: their twenty plus yard and home run plays in the

895
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: passing game. Not in the running game. And I know

896
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: people are gonna say, well, etn you know, caught forty

897
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: four passes last year. He could be your third down back. Okay,

898
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: that's fine, but he's not catching stuff downfield and breaking

899
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: it for you know, fifty yard touchdowns. I mean, yes,

900
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: is he good in space? Sure he is. I don't

901
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: know if I don't know if the big plays that

902
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: we're in college are going to translate to the NFL.

903
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is because we

904
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: saw this ten years ago. C J. Spiller was the

905
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: ninth pick in the draft or the eleventh pick in

906
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: the draft, somewhere in there, and it was okay, that

907
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: guy had over fifty plays of twenty yards or more

908
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: in his career and had twenty one plays of fifty

909
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 1: yards or more. And then he came to the NFL

910
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: and those plays were few and far between. You and

911
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: far between. He couldn't get to the sidelines. He bounced

912
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: it out. Now it's a different You can say what

913
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: you want, Travis at and is not going to be

914
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: the same guys CJ. Spiller, You'll be a different guy

915
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: because they're all different. But the simple fact that matters

916
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: this what you have on. This is the way your

917
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: team's constructed. Now, you're telling me that a running back

918
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: in this offense, as good as it was last year,

919
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: and believe me, it was really good, is going to

920
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: make a big enough difference. And there's not going to

921
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: be any other player on the board at any other

922
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: position that will be as significant a contribution as that

923
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: guy will be able to make on this offense. I

924
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: have a hard time getting there. Yeah. I think there's

925
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: gonna be guys that are gonna be able to make

926
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: bigger differences on the defensive front. A bigger difference at

927
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: second corner offensive line will help both guys you draft

928
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: in the last two years to play better. Um, it

929
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: just seems to me the way I look at it,

930
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: it's a luxury pit. It's really it's a It would

931
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: be a luxury pick in the third round. Yeah, do

932
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 1: another third round running back? Right. I just I can't

933
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: get there now. They may because we've heard a lot

934
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: of it, and maybe it's a smokescreen. Maybe our guys

935
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: are doing with San Francisco is doing, just putting it

936
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: out there, and um we will right trying to get

937
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: the Jets to draft the guy, right. I don't know

938
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: maybe or maybe not, but where I'm sitting, the logic

939
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: just doesn't lead me to that. Now. I don't look.

940
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what their board looks like. They may

941
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: have Travis atn way above a lot of other guys.

942
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: So we'll see Jim and Lewis didn't hang y. We'll

943
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: get to you first after the break as we're taking

944
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: more of your phone calls in the second hour of

945
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 1: the show. If the value is gone for the perceived

946
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: positions of need for the bills when they're on the

947
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: clock at thirty, what is your wild card pick? Give

948
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: us a position, give us a player eight oh three

949
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: oh five fifty open line for you one eight eight

950
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty Steve and I back for

951
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: hour number two after these words at a Steve Tasker

952
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique.

953
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you, Steve,

954
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stratgere of normalcy. Ah,

955
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 1: we're number two of a Tuesday edition of One Bills Live.

956
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: Chris round Steve Tasker with you and your phone calls.

957
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: We are wide open here in the second hour of

958
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: the program. So we want you to be a part

959
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: of it. One quick thing, Chad Ruder, who he had

960
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: on the show last week, NFL dot Com Draft Analyst

961
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: has put together his seven round mock draft, and the

962
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: most interesting part as it pertained to the Bills was

963
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: he had the Bills moving out of round one, trading

964
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: back in a move with Atlanta back to I believe

965
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: pick thirty six and had them moving out around one entirely,

966
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: and then with pick or pick thirty five, excuse me,

967
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: and with pick thirty five, he had the Bills taking

968
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: Carlos Basham Junior, the pass rusher from Wake Forest. For

969
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: those that don't know Basham, whose nickname is Boogie, He's

970
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: six three two eighty one kind of a Mario Addison

971
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: body type, which leads me to believe why Chad had

972
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: that as the pick were the Bills. In round two,

973
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: we had him trading out of round one entirely. Most

974
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: interesting thing is at pick thirty six, right after the

975
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: Bills at thirty five, he had the Miami Dolphins selecting

976
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: running back Travis etn This is why mock drafts are

977
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: so delicious. Just lap it all up and enjoy it

978
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: for two more days until it becomes realities, rub it

979
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: on your face. Let's let's go back to the phones

980
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: instead of talking about rubbing mock drafts on our face,

981
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: and we go to Jim and Lewiston. His promise, Jim,

982
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Hey,

983
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: it's actually Tim with a T. Tim. Okay, what do

984
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: you got for us? Tim? So, I don't think the

985
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: Bills are going to be drafting or running back. And

986
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: here's why, Singletary. In twenty nineteen, when Davel was running

987
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: a power run blocking scheme, averaged five point one yards

988
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: per carry, It's correct. And not only that, but he

989
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: had I think it was five point one percent of

990
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: his were considered big runs, which are over twenty yards, right,

991
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: and that was I think second place in the league

992
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: was four point one percent Nick Chubb. And then in

993
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, when Davis switched over to a zone run

994
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: blocking scheme, he still averaged four point four yards per carry.

995
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: But the most telling stat to me was actually that

996
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: he finished tied for second in the league for average

997
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: yards per carry after first contact. And actually Zach Moss

998
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: was I think either close to the top ten or

999
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: in the top ten as well. And so to me,

1000
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: that says that it's a line issue, not a running

1001
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: back issue, which is what the team has said as well,

1002
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: right exactly, So I think the the running back so

1003
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: that the Bulls are going to go forward with, are

1004
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: already on the team. I think if they want to

1005
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: fix the running issue, it's a line problem, not or

1006
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: maybe even a scheme issue, a running back issue. Right.

1007
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: And you know, you bring up a good point, Tim,

1008
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: and I'll go as far as this just to kind

1009
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: of give you an idea a rookie year for Singletary.

1010
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: You mentioned the five point one yards per carry average.

1011
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: The only guy that was better than him in yards

1012
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: per carry average was Lamar Jackson at six point eight yards,

1013
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: the only guy in the league that had a higher number.

1014
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: He was the highest running back in yards per carry average.

1015
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: The only guy better than him was Lamar Jackson. Now,

1016
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,959
Speaker 1: as you pointed out, Tim, yes, I think the last

1017
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: two running backs are a peek into the type of

1018
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: skill set the Bills are looking for in a running back.

1019
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: That is contact balance and the ability to elude the

1020
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: first defender if possible, but if not, still fall forward.

1021
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: They would rather have a running back that's going to

1022
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: more consistently get them four yards to five yards to pop,

1023
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: to keep the offense on schedule, to keep the playbook

1024
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: wide open for their passing game. What they're really looking

1025
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: for is consistency, and they want to make sure that

1026
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: they can run the football whenever they want, not when

1027
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: they're when the down and distance say where they can

1028
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: be predictable. They want to be able to run the

1029
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: football when they want to put the game away, when

1030
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: the defense knows they want to run it, when they're

1031
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna run it no matter what. They want to be

1032
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: able to run it with confidence whenever they can and

1033
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 1: get good yards when they do. That's it. They don't

1034
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: want to run the ball more, not when the passing

1035
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: offense is like it is. But if they get into

1036
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: a game like the like the New England Patriots game

1037
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: or the San Diego Charger game, they want to be

1038
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: able to not run the ball yet, but they also

1039
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: want to be able to score a bunch of points.

1040
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 1: So which analytics has shown you do through the air,

1041
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: that's right, So you they they want to run it better.

1042
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: They were not. There were too many times last year

1043
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: when you know, the second and five or whatever it was,

1044
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: and now it's third and four or a third and six.

1045
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: They just didn't get enough out of it. You remember

1046
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: the one really good run I remember Devin Singletary having

1047
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: was when the game was out of reach. They were

1048
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: trying to run out the clock in Denver, and he

1049
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: snapped one off for fifty one yards. That was his

1050
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: run of the season and he gets it into the

1051
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: end zone. We know how shifty and elusive he is.

1052
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: He's great at get making guys miss. But there's also

1053
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: a nice article out he has. You know, people have

1054
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: remembered that the drop he had in the champion AFC

1055
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: Championship game, that drop swing pass. He there's a great

1056
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: Tyler Dunn wrote a nice article about that and what

1057
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary is doing. Devin Singletary is really really putting

1058
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: in the work this offseason. It sounds like to make

1059
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: himself a different type of back. We're gonna have Tyler

1060
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow and that's that's gonna be something.

1061
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be fun to see because as good

1062
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: as guys have gotten while they've been Buffalo Bills, I

1063
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: think Devin Singletary and Zach Moss or two guys that

1064
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: are going to improve while they're Buffalo Bills. That's and

1065
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything that's new, but we don't know

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00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: who they're gonna pick at number thirty, but that you know,

1067
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: running back for me is right there with quarterback, you know,

1068
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: number thirty. I we got guys. Yeah, yeah, well I guess.

1069
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: But Tim brought up some good points. So thanks for

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00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: the call, Tim. We go to Alex and Rochester. Alex,

1071
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? We're on one Bills live. Hey,

1072
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: how y'all doing good? Yeah? Um yeah this we really

1073
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: not in the stratosphere of normalcy, just like but yeah,

1074
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: the Bills. Um, I feel like they definitely have a

1075
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: few things working in their favor on Both running backs

1076
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: are good and they just like the other guy brought up,

1077
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: they have shown potential and um, Devin Singletary is not bad.

1078
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: And Brandon Bean has also shown that he has a

1079
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: commitment to certain players. If he liked you, he gonna

1080
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: keep you. They did it with Matt Mulano. And another

1081
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: thing too, I think that we should get a corner

1082
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: um and then try to get a linebacker afterwards. We

1083
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: need extra linebacker death, but I think we should get

1084
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: a corner first, then line backers didn't get another corner

1085
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: on the corners. I was thinking about we might not

1086
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: be able to get JC Horn, but probably pausing a

1087
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: debo or the corner from Syracuse. Then you try to

1088
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: get a linebacker Dylan Moses and then try to double

1089
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: up on another corner. They have a lot of six

1090
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: three corners, six foot plus corners professed and athletic that

1091
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: you could train it um Sean mcderhamy could coach the

1092
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: month to be right. And in the past, all the

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01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: teams that have been great, they all have had at

1094
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: least two corners. The Royal Reevers, Seattle, they all have

1095
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: had at least even the Patriots, they all have at

1096
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: least two corners. You have to have a lead two

1097
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: to compete in this league, all right. Alex Well said,

1098
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: you're right, and you go down the list and you

1099
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: get down past those first five. Asante Samuel Juniors five ten.

1100
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,479
Speaker 1: But Caleb Farley one of the top corners. He's six two.

1101
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: Greg Newsoon from Northwestern six one. Jac Horn is six one.

1102
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: Patrick Surtan is six two. These guys are big and

1103
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,479
Speaker 1: and there's enough gonna be enough of these guys around.

1104
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: Javon Holland from Oregon, who's the safety in your listed

1105
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: as a corner for the draft, is six one, two

1106
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: hundred pounds. Aaron Robinson from UCF is six one hundred

1107
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: and ninety three pounds. Kelvin Joseph from Kentucky is six one,

1108
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety two pounds. Tay Gowan, his cornerback

1109
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: from UCF, he's six two. Then he got this guy

1110
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: from Syracuse if he out too, Melophone Will he's six three,

1111
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: two thirteen. He's enormous. Eric Stokes, the guy we've been

1112
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,479
Speaker 1: talking about from George's six one a buck eighty five.

1113
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: You got a bunch of guys. If you want some

1114
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: physical traits, they're out there. And I'm I'm I'm with

1115
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: Alex from Rochester and I get it too. He says,

1116
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: you know our running backs, they're not bad, you know,

1117
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: and the club knows it. Brandon being came out. I said,

1118
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: they're not home running hitters. But man, oh man, you

1119
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: rarely see those guys cough the ball up. The only

1120
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: player you can really remember that went bad for him

1121
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: was the drop that that I'm saying and the fumble

1122
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: that Moss had in Was it San Francisco or was

1123
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: it and he got bad. So both those guys got

1124
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: bitched at different games for making a mistake like that.

1125
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: Shuming Derbott doesn't he does not play games. And those

1126
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: guys know it. These running back and I hate to

1127
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: say it like this because it makes sound like you're settling,

1128
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: but these guys are good enough. Yeah, they're good and

1129
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: they got some gifts. And if you want to help

1130
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: those guys out, help them out the same way you

1131
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: helped your other their backfield. Make Josh Josh Allen. You

1132
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: not got Steph Diggs you want. You got Cole Beasley,

1133
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: John Brown, get drafted, Gabe Davis, Isaiah Hodgins, you brought in,

1134
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: Kumeroau you brought in You drafted a couple of tight ends,

1135
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: and Tommy Sweeney and Dawson Knox. You got all these guys.

1136
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: You brought in Tyler Craft. You got all these weapons

1137
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: for your quarterback. If you want to help your running backs,

1138
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: draft some big bodies up front. Yeah, that's how you

1139
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: help the running back. If you want your running game

1140
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: to get better, draft big bodies up front. And just

1141
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: to take the cornerback conversation a step further, after this

1142
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: top tier in round one, it's not like the cupboard

1143
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: is bare for the rest of the draft. There is

1144
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: a healthy number that are going to come off the

1145
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: board in round two, and there's a handful that are

1146
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: going to be in the latter stages of round three.

1147
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: So hopefully there's value there that the Bills find attractive

1148
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: at the cornerback position. So if they can't get one

1149
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: in round one at pick thirty because they've all come

1150
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: off the board, all hope is not lost. There will

1151
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: still be options even at the bottom round two and

1152
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: possibly even the bottom of round three. Let's go back

1153
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: to the phones, and who do we have here. We've

1154
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: got Pat in Webster. Pat, what do you got for us?

1155
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live, Hi, guys, Halls. Everything gone

1156
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: pretty good. I agree with the Creed Humphree. Honestly, I

1157
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: had him as my number two because I always do

1158
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: my draft board every year. But the guy I really

1159
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: like to see the Bills grab at thirty if he's there,

1160
01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: is Xavier Collins lineback around at Tulsa, because see he's

1161
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: a unique talent and he could fill in for the

1162
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: while for Alexander. That highbred roll Ye would fill in

1163
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: with a backup for Molano, who's proven. You know, he

1164
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: tends to get nicked up because of this size. You

1165
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: could fill in there. He could fill in at you

1166
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: a linebacker if we needed him, and I think he

1167
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: would be a talent. We'd get use out of him

1168
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: right away this year, rotating in and out. I think

1169
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: the Bills are high on that. The defensive end we

1170
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: got from Carolina a free agency Abata. Yep. They paid

1171
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: him over the league minimum to get him, and they

1172
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: guaranteed some of that money. So I think I think

1173
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: that kid's going to be good. And I mean he

1174
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: had five and a half sacks part time last year.

1175
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: What was Killy Hughes full time starter five and a

1176
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: half sacks for us? Right? Yeah, uh yeah. I don't

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01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: mind a lot of what you brought up there, Pat.

1178
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: I'll say this about Davin Collins. He's an interest chess piece.

1179
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: You know. You hear a lot of the draft analysts

1180
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: talk all the time about how the college game is

1181
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: drifting toward positionless football, and I think eventually we're going

1182
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: to get there in the NFL because you're already seeing

1183
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: hybrid type players being deployed, particularly on the defensive side

1184
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: of the ball, and Zaven Collins is an intriguing chess

1185
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: piece because as you pointed out, and I hadn't given

1186
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: this much thought, Steve, but it's a it's a worthwhile

1187
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: point that Pat brought up the role that Lorenzo Alexander

1188
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: used to play here strong side linebacker in base sub

1189
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: package rusher. Zaven Collins does that stuff. He's six four,

1190
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: two sixties big, but he lined he locked for Tulsa.

1191
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: He lined up on the edge and pass rushing situations,

1192
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: and he played largely on the strong side, sometimes on

1193
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: the week side, depending now, and he can drop into coverage.

1194
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: So I would tend to agree with Pat. If you've

1195
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: got a guy like Collins, Milano gets hurt, he could

1196
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: fill in there, you can use him in Lorenzo Alexander's

1197
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: old role. So yeah, there are places that you can

1198
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: find fits for Zaven Collins in Buffalo's scheme defensively, Yeah,

1199
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: and he and he's right if if the Bills feel

1200
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: like Xavin Collins could cover for Milano, cover for Edmonds

1201
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: sub ind on the defensive end. That kind of versatility

1202
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: makes him incredibly valuable on game day because if you've

1203
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: got a guy who can back up three difference, it's

1204
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: like having a swing tackle, and he runs well enough

1205
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: to play special teams. He that gives you an extra

1206
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: roster spot at a couple of different spots where you

1207
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: could you could keep you know, five corners or a

1208
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: return man, or extra wide receivers or extra running back,

1209
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: extra offensive players, an extra offensive or whatever, because you've

1210
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: got this guy that covers for three or four different guys.

1211
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: And if you've got a guy like that who can

1212
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: do that at a high level, that's enormously useful for

1213
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: a foster management. On game day when injuries start to

1214
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: become a factor and you're trying to get your guys

1215
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: lined up for a game on Sunday, you're not exactly

1216
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: sure who's going to be available. This guy gives you

1217
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: a security blanket for about three different spots where you're

1218
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: going to get high level play no matter where you

1219
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: plug him in and no matter who becomes available at

1220
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: the end of the week, if the value is gone

1221
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: for the perceived positions of need for the Bills, edge

1222
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: rusher and corner. When the Bills are on the clock

1223
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: at thirty, what is your wild card pick? Let us

1224
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: know at eight oh three, five fifty back to the phones,

1225
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: and we've got Judy waiting for us in Buffalo. What

1226
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: do you have for us, Julie, It's Judy. Oh, go ahead,

1227
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: Judy Ye. Your guests yesterday highlighted the defensive end Jaya

1228
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: Jason Oway. Noah, Yeah, from what I could see, I

1229
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: mean is size here, has a leticism, he has major speed,

1230
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: and the one thing I think we're really missing on

1231
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: zefitse well, except maybe for a cornerback, is a really good,

1232
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: reliable defensive end, and maybe he would help his being

1233
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: in line up with help Epaness on the other side.

1234
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: But I'm hoping that the Bill's drafts him in either

1235
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: the first or second round. I disable feeling about this guy. Yeah.

1236
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: Always an intriguing player because of his elite physical traits,

1237
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: and he would fall in the category of a player

1238
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: that would probably need some refinement because he doesn't have

1239
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: the production in terms of sacks specifically, he does have

1240
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: the production in terms of quarterback hits, and I believe

1241
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: he had six or seven sacks the year prior to

1242
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: this most recent season four Penn State. But the general

1243
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: knock on o Way is he rushes the passer just

1244
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: based on pure athletic ability. He doesn't have a plan

1245
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: if you will, doesn't have refined counter moves when his

1246
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: first move is neutralized by a good offensive tackle. So

1247
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: what is Jason when he lines up at defensive end

1248
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: for Penn State? He uses the speed rush off the

1249
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: edge because he runs a four to three nine at

1250
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty seven pounds. Why wouldn't you go

1251
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: to that? But when you have a tackle that's good

1252
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: enough to set and sit down and stonewall you, you know,

1253
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: three yards up field, what do you do now? And

1254
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: more often than not, Owai did not have an answer

1255
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: to that, and so now it becomes a question. When

1256
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: you're in the draft room discussing prospects, you go to

1257
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: your coaching staff and you say, what can you do

1258
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: with this kid? Can you develop him? Do you think

1259
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: he can be a starter by year two when Jerry

1260
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: Hughes contract is up and Mario Addison's contract is up,

1261
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: and we need two starters on the edge because we're

1262
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: trying to save money because we're paying the quarterback forty

1263
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Yeah, and I know this too.

1264
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: NFL coaches think they can and every coach at every

1265
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: level thinks they can help a guy get better. That's

1266
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: why they become coaches. That's why they want to do it.

1267
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: They like that feeling they get when they see a

1268
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 1: guy playing at a certain level and with a few tips,

1269
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: and and you watch him on film doing some of

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Speaker 1: the things you're teaching him, and he gets better and

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Speaker 1: better and better. It's that's why guys get into coaching.

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01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,879
Speaker 1: They want to help these guys become great players. Always

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01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 1: a perfect guy for a pro coach to get a

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01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: hold of because he's got all the pro intangible tangibles,

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01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 1: not the intangibles, the tangibles big size, great speed, great athleticism, length,

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01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 1: and he's yeah, he's just got all that stuff. He

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01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: looks like a professional football player and he's and it

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01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: shows out in his athleticism. So a coach has got

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01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: to sit there thinking, this is our guy. You give

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01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: him to me for a couple of weeks, and we're

1281
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna have him. You know. I'll give him a move

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01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,480
Speaker 1: and when he gets that, we'll start expanding his repertoire.

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01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 1: And by the end of the season, we're gonna have

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01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: a guy that can step on the field and start,

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01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: maybe if we can get the playoffs, a guy who

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01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: can make a difference deep in the playoffs having in

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Speaker 1: his first year. You have to have faith in your

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01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: player development, yeah, and your coaching staff to be comfortable

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01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: to draft this guy in the first round. He has

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01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: first round elite physical traits. Now you're counting on your

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01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: player development to get him to a place where he

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01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: dominates on an NFL football field with those traits combined

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01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: with airtight technique and a pass rushing plan every time

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01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: he steps on the field. If you think you can

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01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: build that into his elite physical traits, then you take

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Speaker 1: him in round one. The question is is it going

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01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: to be there or is there some other coaching staff

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01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: that believes they can turn him into a superstar who

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01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: picks before Buffalo does. At thirty. Let's go back to

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Speaker 1: the phones and we go to Dennis in Williamsville. Dennis,

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01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: what do you got for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Hey, guys,

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01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,759
Speaker 1: I think that for sure, at number thirty there will

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01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: be somebody. I think. I think it would be really

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01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: hard to believe with the number of quarterbacks they're gonna

1305
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: go and offensive linemen that look like they're going to go,

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01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: if there wouldn't be somebody there at thirty for us,

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01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: at least somebody that fits, you know, a role, probably

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01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: in the top five corners or top five defensive ends.

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01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: But what I'd rather see, what I really like to see,

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01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 1: um maybe a little bit more would be you know,

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01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: when you look at our team, and we even had

1312
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: to bury some of our draft picks from our draft

1313
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: on the practice squad last year, how are we gonna

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01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: draft seven guys this year and be able to sign

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01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: them all with especially when you still got the guys

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01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: from last year that are still working their way into

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01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: the system. I wonder if it wouldn't be smart of

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01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: the Bills to say, look, let's let's you know, try

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01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: to maybe get rid of some of these picks and

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01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 1: pick four guys, maybe trade up as much as possible

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01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: into the top three rounds, getting rid of some of

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01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: the back end talent, and knowing that we're in a

1323
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: window here to win, try to get as much elite

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01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: level talent as we can, because you know, we have

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01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: special teamers all across our our team. I mean with

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01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 1: with guys like Saran Neil and Hiwan Jones and these

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01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: guys that are just gonna they're gonna fill those those roles.

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01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: What we really need now is to take that tough

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01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 1: end talent and just supplement that even more. Yeah, I

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: mean your points valid. Steve and I have actually had

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01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: this discussion because it is a tough roster to make.

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01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: You have seven picks, but four of them are in

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01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: rounds five, six, and seven, and I know, Dennis you're suggesting, well,

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01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: part with some of those picks and trade up. The

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01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: best way to add the draft capital that you're talking

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01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 1: about is to move back in round one to the

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01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: top a round two, because if you do that, you

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01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: pick up an extra four where the Bills currently don't

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01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 1: have a pick. And then if you don't feel there

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01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: are guys on your board in rounds five, six, and

1341
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,799
Speaker 1: seven that have a legitimate chance to make your roster,

1342
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: I would just hit the eject button on those and

1343
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: trade them for late round picks in twenty twenty two

1344
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: and throw them all together and get a higher like

1345
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: if you could throw your two fifths and a sixth

1346
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: and even your seven and a seventh. You trade four

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01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: picks for maybe one or two, like a three or

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01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: four or three, And I don't know if you can

1349
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: next on what you were looking at on the draft

1350
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: value chart, those aren't worth a whole lot but if

1351
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 1: you can trade the two fives, a six and a

1352
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: seven for a late four or a high five, you

1353
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: know for next year, do it. Yeah, especially if you

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01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: don't think those guys have a chance to make your roster,

1355
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: right because yeah, because you're looking at practice squad guys

1356
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: in the in the fifth, the two sixes, and the seventh.

1357
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: It's really hard to make this club. And that's why

1358
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: you gotta We're looking at guys like this Zavan Collins,

1359
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: who Pat thought should you know the caller thoughts should

1360
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: grab because and Jason Oway. The guy's gonna have to

1361
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 1: have something really special and offer something really special to

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01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: step in and be a difference maker for the Bills

1363
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: this season. Now, having said that, that doesn't mean they're

1364
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: not going to pick a guy and we don't see

1365
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: him for like uh they did with a Japanezza last year.

1366
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: You don't even see the guy for the first couple

1367
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: of weeks of the season. He's not even on the

1368
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: field on in games, and then he's then he's active,

1369
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: gets a few snaps, gets a few more snap, gets

1370
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:01,799
Speaker 1: a few more snaps them by the end of the season,

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01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,839
Speaker 1: he's activated. Trent Murphy's down and you're moving on and

1372
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: he's starting to play really well. I can live with

1373
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: that in this scenario the way it stands, if you

1374
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: get a guy with elite traits physically, even though he

1375
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: doesn't have the production in his college and he's got

1376
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: some things to learn or to work out, if he's

1377
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 1: got the right DNA as they say, he wants to

1378
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: be better, wants to get better, and wants to work

1379
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: hard at it. And find a guy like that with

1380
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 1: elite traits. Yeah, the sky's the limit. We have to

1381
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: step aside. Frank Antanawanda, hang tight. You'll lead us off

1382
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: when we return. As we're talking. Wild card pick for

1383
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: the Bills at number thirty if their perceived positions of

1384
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: need are cleaned out by the time they're on the

1385
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: clock at the end of round one. It's one Bills

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01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health. This is Buffalo Bill's radio

1387
01:15:49,040 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: back in a moment. If the value is not there

1388
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,560
Speaker 1: at the perceived positions of need for the Bills, Ed

1389
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: Rusher Corner, what's your wild card pick for Buffalo at

1390
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: pick thirty if they're on the clock in that situation,

1391
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: eight O three oh five fifty more are your phone

1392
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: calls coming up. In the third hour the show, Tony Pauline,

1393
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: NFL draft analysts, joining us as we break down the

1394
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: draft for the one hundredth time in advance of the

1395
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: twenty You can talk about it forever, though you really can't,

1396
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: which is what we're gonna do now. As we go

1397
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: back to the phone, and we talked to Frank in Tonawanda, Frank,

1398
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? We're eagerly anticipating your comments.

1399
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: All thank for Montreal. Yeah, Montreal, go ahead, and you said, Tonawandah, well,

1400
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm just reading what's on the board here, but Frank,

1401
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: go ahead. So sorry. I have a quick Josh story.

1402
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm in the restaurant business and usually every Jost I

1403
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: take it off and in two eighteen, unfortunately I had

1404
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: to work. Was a big event. Yeah, but luckily all

1405
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty guests were from Buffalo and Rochester,

1406
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: so I got to I got to watch the draft

1407
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: with them that year. I love. It was awesome. And Brownie,

1408
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: your wife was there also because I think she did

1409
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: an insurance so she was there also, and it was

1410
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: it was pretty cool, you know, Like I told her,

1411
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: I follow you on Twitter and stuff. Oh yeah, well

1412
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: she's an the legal profession, but yes, she was there.

1413
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 1: That is correct. It was a fun night. I got

1414
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: to watch the draft with people from Buffalo and Ronde.

1415
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: Well you're lucked out. That's awesome. Yeah I did. It

1416
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: was nice. They couldn't believe they found the Bills trying

1417
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: to mature off, but they did so. Um the draft,

1418
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: I think position that means our edge rusher and corner.

1419
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: And that's why I think Bean will draft out of

1420
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: the first round and get a second second round thick,

1421
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: so you can draft a corner and an edge rusher

1422
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 1: in the second round and help out the team immediately. Yeah.

1423
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: I am a subscribe fiber to that idea and that plan.

1424
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: And thanks for the call, Frank. Sorry we got your

1425
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: city of origin wrong there, Frank from Montreal coming from

1426
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 1: the other side of the border. Trading out a round

1427
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: one is not a bad idea. If the cupboard's bar

1428
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: and you don't have a first round grade on somebody,

1429
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: when you're on the clock and somebody loves somebody up there,

1430
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: let them come in, you move out. Now. Here's the

1431
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: only thing, because a couple of people have mentioned this today, Steve,

1432
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: they think if you trade out around one, you can

1433
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: get an extra two. You can't the value. If you're

1434
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 1: only moving down about five or six picks, you'll get

1435
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: an extra four, but not an extra two or an

1436
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 1: extra three. Now, if you're moving way down in round two,

1437
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: you could get an extra three probably based on we

1438
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: use the value chart as a loose guide. We know

1439
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: that most gms don't use that to the letter anymore.

1440
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: But usually if you're just sliding back five or six

1441
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: six spots, you're only getting an extra four. But that's

1442
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: valuable to the bills because they don't have a four,

1443
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: right And it's I like that if either the coverage

1444
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: bear you know it's not there, or if the cover

1445
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: covers really full, and you know that if you drop back,

1446
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: you're going to get a better guy, and you can

1447
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 1: get one more better guy than you would have otherwise,

1448
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: and then it's like, Okay, that's another way that that's

1449
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: another that's a great way to go. Uh. And we've

1450
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 1: talked at length about the fact that like at thirty

1451
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 1: you're talking about twenty nine, thirty, thirty one, thirty two,

1452
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: the last four picks of the first round are kind

1453
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: of considered like high second round picks for teams if

1454
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: particularly when you get down into a team that maybe

1455
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 1: have a perceived need or if they've got a perceived

1456
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: need at a spot in the draft where there's a

1457
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 1: lot of really good players at that at that spot.

1458
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: So if you get to thirtieth or twenty eight, twenty nine,

1459
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 1: and there's still four of the top five corners, just say,

1460
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 1: for instance, there's three of the top five corners still

1461
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: on the on the board, and you know the teams

1462
01:19:55,960 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 1: around you, you can trade back like five spots, pick

1463
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: up a fourth rounder or sick whatever it is, or

1464
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: fifth rounder, still get your guy and get up another player,

1465
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: and they're a guy that you're happy with or a

1466
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: guy that you can think is just as good. So yeah,

1467
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 1: I think trading out of the bottom of the first round, well,

1468
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: you've said it. It happens on an average or four

1469
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: times a year. Teams do it in the last three

1470
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: times a year. In the last well, not trading out

1471
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,839
Speaker 1: of the first round per se trades specifically, So between

1472
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: picks twenty and thirty two in the last three drafts,

1473
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: there has been an average of four trades in that range,

1474
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 1: either people moving out and teams in round two trying

1475
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 1: to climb back in we're moving up or moving up

1476
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: from thirty to like twenty five or thirty to twenty one,

1477
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, something like that. So they do happen down

1478
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 1: around there. It's a coveted area. The thirty pick, by

1479
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: the draft value chart is we're six hundred and twenty points. Yeah.

1480
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: The twenty fifth pick, which would be Jacksonville in this case,

1481
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: is seven hundred and twenties. That's one hundred points. But

1482
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: you get back and the hundred point pick is a four, right,

1483
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: is the back of the being the compensatory pick range

1484
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: of the third round be like one hundredth pick, So

1485
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: the hundred point total equals one hundredth pick in this case,

1486
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: not not always so anything at the one hundred point

1487
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: mark the bottom of the third round all the way

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01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: through the about the top of the fourth round. Yeah,

1489
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: so you're looking at the top the bottom third of

1490
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: the third round, of the top third of the fourth round.

1491
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: You could move up five spots in the first round

1492
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, but that's what you that's so

1493
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 1: a team like and we're looking at would be a

1494
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 1: team like Jacksonville, the Jets, Atlanta, Miami at the same

1495
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: top of the draft peat affiliate thirty seven. So affhilliate

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01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 1: thirty seven wants to move up five spots or seven

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01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: or seven spots the Bills at thirty right, they would

1498
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 1: have to cough up. Yeah about late three in early

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01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: four and that's yeah, a late four or late three

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01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: early four, exactly exactly. Let's go back to the phones

1501
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: as Matt and Clarence wants to discuss the potential of

1502
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: trading back or cornerback? What do you have for us, Matt, Hey, guys,

1503
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. Sure. So my thought here,

1504
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: I think the Bills really have three options one trade back,

1505
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: two corner or three defensive tackle in the event the

1506
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: att rushers are gone. Now, would I love for the

1507
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: Bills to get Olari or Phillips with him in Collins?

1508
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: I don't really think that's realistic the way the board

1509
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: is falling. In my mind, if the Bills can't trade back,

1510
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: which I think they will, the number one guy I

1511
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: think would be a fat Malifanu from Syracuse. He's a

1512
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: big guy, six three, good ball skills, and especially I

1513
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: think he would bring these size and athleticism that our

1514
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: corners are lacking a little bit. You know, Trey White,

1515
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: He's he's an All pros and superstar. You know, he's

1516
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: He's only six foot though, Karen Johnson in the slots

1517
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 1: five ten Wallace and Dane Jackson are a little more

1518
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 1: developmental and they're only six foot. So I think Melifonwu

1519
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: or a bigger corner might bring the the size and

1520
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 1: athleticism that they'll lack a little bit. On defense, we're

1521
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: a smaller defense and we kind of got dashed a

1522
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: little last year by that. Yeah, and I agree with you,

1523
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't I wouldn't get too caught up on

1524
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: melafon Wu. Although he could be the guy, no question.

1525
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: He's six three, two thirteen. There's a bunch of guys

1526
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: like you know, above six foot and in around that too.

1527
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: And now he's a heavy dude at two thirteen. That's

1528
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: a big dude. But there's a ton of guys in

1529
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: that range. So I'm not saying uh no to your idea.

1530
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it might be a different guy than

1531
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: Melifonwu from Syracuse because there's a there's a hand full

1532
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 1: of guys that are that click that off. There's you know, Benjamin,

1533
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: there's Benjamin Saint just from Minnesota. He's six three two

1534
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 1: oh five. Right, he'll go a little bit later. Yeah,

1535
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell six two a buck eighty five. Um, you

1536
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: know Paulson adibo adebo six one buck ninety Sean Wade

1537
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: six one buck ninety five out of Ohio state, Mark

1538
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: Wilson sixty one, and then uh from also from Syracuse

1539
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: is Trill Williams six two one ninety eight. So there's, um,

1540
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: you know, a guy for a teammate of a Melofon Wu,

1541
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: although Melifon was rated higher. So there, I get your idea.

1542
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, uh, the idea makes a lot

1543
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 1: of sense to me, if not impossible to pick the

1544
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: exact guy they're looking at. Yeah, I mean, it's gonna

1545
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 1: be very interesting to see what they deem as a

1546
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 1: fit at corner, because we do know on the outside

1547
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 1: they tend to like the longer corners, and for good reason.

1548
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: But after what happened to them last season against the Chiefs,

1549
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: where you know, Tyreek Hill was blowing their doors off,

1550
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 1: do they want a burner a guy that maybe if

1551
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: he's even beat initially off the line, has the makeup

1552
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: speed to catch up to that guy. You know how

1553
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 1: I feel about that stuff? Just play better when you

1554
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: play the Chiefs. You gotta get there first of all, correct,

1555
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: you gotta get there. You get a guy who's gonna

1556
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: help you win the most games. That two of your

1557
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: four losses last year's two of your four losses were

1558
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 1: to Kansas City. The one in the rainstorm here on

1559
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 1: a Monday night was a better game than the AFC

1560
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: Championship game. And I think the AFC Championship game, you're right.

1561
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we spoke about it. You know, if if

1562
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 1: they go for it on the fourth and shorts, you

1563
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: know early in the game down in Kansas City, who

1564
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: we are the field goal? Or if if Devin Singletary

1565
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: catches that swing pass makes one guy miss that everything changes.

1566
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: Oh you know I'm saying this. You get the guy

1567
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: who's gonna make help you win the most football games,

1568
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: not help you beat one team. And I know people

1569
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: are caught up in the fact that the Chiefs you

1570
01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: gotta get Listen, the Chiefs gotta beat a lot of

1571
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: people to get there is getting as well. What happens

1572
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: if you if you build your team like that and

1573
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: the Chiefs fumble it on the last play or the

1574
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,719
Speaker 1: guy jumps off sides against the like he did against

1575
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: the in the championship game against the New England Patriots,

1576
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: they win the game, but oh, you're defensive end lined

1577
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: up off sides, you lose. And that's what happened to

1578
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. It's just as hard for the Chiefs to

1579
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: get there as it is for the Bills. Build your

1580
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: team the best you can and play well on that day.

1581
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: Don't don't make different decisions thinking you got this guy.

1582
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: We're here is one single team, and I'm not necessarily

1583
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 1: saying that it's a different decision. I wonder what the

1584
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:38,839
Speaker 1: decision is. Is the decision to be bigger and stronger

1585
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: at corner, or is the decision to be strong enough

1586
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: but really fast at corner. What's the decision there? What's

1587
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: the skill set you want? And covet that's it. The

1588
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: decision is scheme fit? Scheme fit, Yeah, that's it. If

1589
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 1: you like, if your scheme works better with big corners,

1590
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,560
Speaker 1: get one, yeah yeah, and then then just get the

1591
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: best one you can. We have to break here, but

1592
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 1: Joe and Buffalo, you will be first after the break.

1593
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 1: Hang tight and we'll get right to you when we return.

1594
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 1: As we were talking, wildcard pick for the bills if

1595
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: they're perceived needs have a bare cupboard with no one

1596
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: to choose from, and they can't get out at thirty

1597
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: who you're picking for them? Give us a position or

1598
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: a player eight oh three oh five fifty back in

1599
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: a flash Here on one Bill's Live, presented by Kalid

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1614
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1620
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: In the meantime, we return to the phone lines where

1621
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: Joe and Buffalo is waiting patiently. Joe, what do you

1622
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one Bill's Live Afternoon. Well,

1623
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 1: it'll be showtime soon enough. I've been watching, you know,

1624
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 1: I watched the show when they can and I know

1625
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of conversation around. You know, do you

1626
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: go to the defensive side of the ball. There's an

1627
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: elite defensive end, you know, do you look for a corner?

1628
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: I think in this situation, I'm reminded because it's been

1629
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: a Bills fan for a long time, Steve, when you

1630
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 1: played Bruce Smith, who was I think it was a

1631
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 1: number one round graft choice out of Virginia Tech five

1632
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 1: or eighty six. Took years to develop as a great

1633
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: defensive end, and then once he took off, you know,

1634
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: he had a Hall of Fame career. So even if

1635
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,799
Speaker 1: the Bills decided that, you know, they had their player

1636
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 1: at defensive end, they'd probably grab them. But I would

1637
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: see somebody like that becoming a contributor over time. And frankly,

1638
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: corners tend to start if they're good. But all of

1639
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: that being said, I think the Bills really need to

1640
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 1: kind of take a look at what's made them successful

1641
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: in the past. And Jim Kelly and the kagun with terrific,

1642
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,799
Speaker 1: but they had Thurman Thomas running between the tackles, breaking

1643
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: tackles and keeping defenses. Honest, you had to game them.

1644
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: So I really think one way to win games is

1645
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 1: to outscore the other guy. And if you end up

1646
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 1: with an elite back, whether it's at the end or

1647
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 1: whether it's Harris, you know, it is ever available, presuming

1648
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: they don't get, you know, an elite player on the

1649
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, I think it only strengthens

1650
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: the offense. I think it makes Allen better. I think

1651
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: it makes Samuel's better. I think it makes the entire

1652
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,959
Speaker 1: offense better, presuming the old line is you know, adequate.

1653
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 1: So I think it's you know, a lot of talk

1654
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: in the offseason about gaming out for Kansas City. But

1655
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 1: I think Steve, you're absolutely right. You got to win

1656
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 1: the games. That gets you there, and what gets you

1657
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 1: there is scoring points. And so from my point of view,

1658
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: I really think if they can't get the defensive player

1659
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 1: they want, because they're going to run on the board

1660
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: and defensive ends and go with somebody that can start

1661
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 1: day one, it's gonna make your offense better. So I'd

1662
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: be looking at one of those two baths if they're available.

1663
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: Than wait, all right, that's a good point. There's a

1664
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: lot in there, and I appreciated a couple of things.

1665
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 1: Some one, Um, don't kid yourself. Bruce was good from

1666
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 1: day one. He had thirteen sacks as a rookie. Yeah,

1667
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 1: and he was ticked he didn't make the Pro Bowl.

1668
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: But that's another story. Yeah, it's another story. But yeah,

1669
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 1: Bruce Bruce was a dominant player. Thurman was and he's

1670
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 1: you're right. I gotta admit Thurman Thomas. We had Bruce,

1671
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 1: we had Jim, we had Andre Reid. We didn't go

1672
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 1: twelve and four until Thurman Thomas was our first pick

1673
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: of the second round or second pick of the second round. Whatever.

1674
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 1: We didn't get good until Thurman came. Of course he

1675
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: coincided to with you know, halfway through the eighty seven

1676
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: season when Corney has been it showed up as well. Well, yeah,

1677
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: but as we talked about on the show yesterday, Steve

1678
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: Thurman was the engine that ran that offense. That was

1679
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 1: a different running back here is not going to be

1680
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: the engine that runs the offense. It's Josh Allen's arm, right,

1681
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 1: and that's what's different. Maybe yeah, well maybe that's because

1682
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 1: they don't have a Thurman Thomas you know yet, So

1683
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 1: but I get it as well. That's a good point.

1684
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 1: It's a really good point. An elite back. One of

1685
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 1: the reasons he's an elite back is because he's got

1686
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 1: a pretty good offensive line. Thurman would tell you that

1687
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 1: as well. And I'll share this. I've shared it before

1688
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: and I hope I don't it's not tedious. But in

1689
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety when the Bills go to their first Super Bowl,

1690
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 1: there were seven players in the entire National Football League

1691
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: that we're listed in the program at three hundred pounds

1692
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: or more. Seven guys in the entire league. We had

1693
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 1: three of them on our starting offensive line, Ballard Ballard,

1694
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 1: Wolford and John Davis, three of them. They were they

1695
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 1: were dominating some people. Yeah, so even Thurman will tell

1696
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 1: you it takes a big time time offensive line to

1697
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: get that done for a running back. And let's face it,

1698
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: the Bills last year through the ball sixty percent of

1699
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 1: the time they threw, they ran at forty percent of

1700
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 1: the time. A lot of reasons for that, first of

1701
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 1: all being they were killing people throwing it, So why

1702
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 1: do anything else. They do it when they need to,

1703
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 1: or when they want to, when they want to keep

1704
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 1: the defense on us, or when it serves a purpose tactically,

1705
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 1: rather than just trying to move the football. When that changes,

1706
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: whereas when you start becoming just as effective when you

1707
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 1: hand it off and they can't stop that, and all

1708
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now it's eating, which like pitching, catching

1709
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 1: the running when you get helped by it. Okay, I

1710
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 1: can do that, but right now they they're not chomping

1711
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 1: at the bit trying to run the ball more so,

1712
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I get it. And good players make

1713
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 1: great Better players make you better. If you can get

1714
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 1: a better player running back, Okay, I'll listen to it.

1715
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 1: But I think there are places that are going to

1716
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 1: be easier for the thirtieth pick of the draft to

1717
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 1: make an impact on the team at different positions rather

1718
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 1: than running back than they would if they get a

1719
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 1: running back. We have to take a break here, but

1720
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 1: when we return for our number three of the show,

1721
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: Pro Football Network Draft analyst Tony paul Leane joins us

1722
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 1: as we break down a number of unfolding events as

1723
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: it pertains to the draft, one of which is the following.

1724
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,480
Speaker 1: We heard reports from Tom Pellizero from NFL Network yesterday

1725
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 1: that the Patriots are interested in moving up into the

1726
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 1: top ten in case one of the quarterbacks slides. We'll

1727
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: tell you which team they are talking to and what

1728
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 1: moved they're looking to make, and we'll bounce it off

1729
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 1: Tony as well when we return here on One Bill's

1730
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalaida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Had

1731
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 1: a Steve Tester who has been all over the field.

1732
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for Steve

1733
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the straged bear of

1734
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: normalcy here. Welcome to our number three of the show.

1735
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as we are discussing

1736
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 1: pick thirty in greater detail. And here to help us

1737
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 1: with that, along with what's going on in terms of

1738
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 1: news and rumors around the league as we sit just

1739
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 1: over forty eight hours away from the draft, is Pro

1740
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Football Network draft analyst NFL insider Tony Pauline joining us

1741
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 1: on the line. Tony, how are you doing? You're ready

1742
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 1: for the draft to start yesterday? Is he there? Guys?

1743
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 1: Do we have him? Okay, we lost Tony for a second,

1744
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: so we might not be able to hear. It's on.

1745
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 1: He's having heard. We'll let our cracked staff on the

1746
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 1: other side of the doors straighten that Outum, we'll get

1747
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 1: Tony on in just a second. The interest can he Okay?

1748
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: He can? All right? So Tony, okay, thanks for joining.

1749
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for the hiccup there. I wanted to start

1750
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 1: here because I know on your write up that you

1751
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 1: just dropped on Pro Football Network dot com you listed

1752
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 1: some of your draft rumors and buzz for draft week,

1753
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 1: and the one that is of particular interest to me

1754
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: is expectations are that zach Ertz will be traded at

1755
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 1: some point over the weekend. There has been talk, and

1756
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:27,719
Speaker 1: I know the Bills have been linked to the Eagles

1757
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: from time to time. Through the course of this pre

1758
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: draft run up. How many suitors do you think there

1759
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,600
Speaker 1: could be for Zach Ertz in terms of teams. I

1760
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 1: was told last night about seven. I was told the

1761
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: hopes are he's moved to the Cults, and I was

1762
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 1: also told that, as I wrote in the rumor section,

1763
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 1: you know, Harry rosemands Eskin for a third round pick,

1764
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 1: which I think Bills fans may have known from back

1765
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 1: in February March. I don't think he's gonna get it

1766
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,679
Speaker 1: thir round pick. I think he's gonna hold out because

1767
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 1: of the weakness of the tight end class in this

1768
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 1: year's draft. He does he get a third rounder. Maybe

1769
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 1: Earth has moved for a fourth rounder. Arts really wants

1770
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 1: to move on from Philadelphia. I think the Bills could

1771
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 1: jump back into it, but I think right now, if

1772
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 1: there's a leader would be the Cults. Yeah, and if

1773
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: it is a tight end, the tight end group is

1774
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 1: top heavy. He got one guy in Kyle Pitts and

1775
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 1: then kind of the rest of the guys, and that

1776
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: leaves guys like ERTs in a little more powerful position

1777
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 1: or a little bit more coveted around the league. And

1778
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: as you said, seven teams being in the mix for that,

1779
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 1: knowing that they're asking for a third round pick. He

1780
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 1: may get it right in this market. Just because there's

1781
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 1: no tight ends in this draft. Pass the top five pick,

1782
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 1: there may not be anybody else available who has certainly

1783
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 1: not as proven as Arts. Yeah. Well, the tight end

1784
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 1: class falls off a cliff after Kyle Pitts. And if

1785
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 1: you're looking for a tight end to come in and

1786
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 1: start and maybe be your number one tight end midwin

1787
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 1: through the two twenty one season, you're not gonna find

1788
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 1: it in two thousand twenty one draft. I mean, it's

1789
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: it's it's a bad class to begin with. I think

1790
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 1: it was hurt by the fact that the top underclassman

1791
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 1: at the position actually went back to school for another year,

1792
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: which was, I guess kind of surprising, But you're right.

1793
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 1: I think this is why Roseman has been holding out

1794
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 1: the longest time. Rather than moving Arts, I think both Arts.

1795
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 1: I know Arts wants to be moved, and I think

1796
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 1: the Eagles figure it's time it's time to move on

1797
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 1: from him, so it'll be the highest bidder come draft weekend.

1798
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 1: We just saw a report from Albert Brier from Monday

1799
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:28,600
Speaker 1: Morning Quarterback column. After Tom Pellasero reported yesterday. Now the

1800
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 1: Patriots are trying to move up into the top ten

1801
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 1: to get whatever quarterback falls, presumably justin fields. And now

1802
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 1: Albert Brier's reporting that the Patriots and the Panther is

1803
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 1: at pick eight have done some groundwork on a possible

1804
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 1: trade provided what the Patriots hope happens happens. So what

1805
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: do you think the likelihood is there that the Patriots

1806
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 1: are the team that nabs the fourth or maybe even

1807
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 1: the fifth quarterback, Because it's really quarterback or bust for

1808
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots in this draft, isn't it. They want a quarterback.

1809
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: I've reported yesterday. If they can't get one of their

1810
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that they like at the top of the draft,

1811
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 1: they could actually move back towards the bottom around one

1812
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 1: and then take Davis Mills. Now my mock draft, I

1813
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:14,759
Speaker 1: have them taking Trey Lance of North Dakota State because

1814
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 1: I think the Niners will eventually take Matt Jones because

1815
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 1: that's who Kyle Shanahan wants. But I think that that

1816
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 1: eighth pick, more so the seventh pick with Detroit is

1817
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 1: in play for a team like the Patriots to move

1818
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:30,759
Speaker 1: up and get their quarterback. The quarterback of their choosing.

1819
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: What do you think though about Denver? Could Denver be

1820
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 1: a player and kind of rain on the Patriots parade

1821
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: there because they're sitting there at nine and don't have

1822
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 1: to go up as far exactly. I mean, you know,

1823
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:43,639
Speaker 1: if Detroit doesn't want to move that far down into

1824
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 1: the middle of round one and lose out of one

1825
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:48,639
Speaker 1: of the premier players in this year's draft, I could

1826
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 1: absolutely see them moving up two slots to Detroit's pick

1827
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: and then taking Justin Field too. I know for a

1828
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,799
Speaker 1: fact they look at as a fast and more athletic

1829
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 1: version than da Rest got Denver really likes. They like

1830
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,560
Speaker 1: Matt Jones, They're not going to get him, but after that,

1831
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 1: they really like Justin Fields. And as we as we

1832
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 1: kind of plow through this mock draft season, I mean

1833
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,599
Speaker 1: right up until Thursday at seven, you're gonna get mocked

1834
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: drafts and people are trying to guess what the Bills

1835
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 1: do at thirty. There's so many tangibles and variables through

1836
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 1: this first round. And as Brownie He's just told us,

1837
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 1: in the last three years, they're averaging four trades a

1838
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,680
Speaker 1: year in the from pick twenty to pick thirty two.

1839
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 1: So people are jumping in and out of the first round,

1840
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 1: or jumping up a few picks to get one of

1841
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: the last guys that's rated as a first rounder. Before

1842
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, the beginning of the second round starts. And

1843
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:42,600
Speaker 1: so when you look at the Bills, they you know

1844
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:45,799
Speaker 1: they looking at edge rusher, they're looking at corner. Offensive

1845
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:47,600
Speaker 1: line is always on the table, but a lot of

1846
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 1: people now are starting to get vibes about taking one

1847
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 1: of the top three running backs could be. I mean,

1848
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: I think Nija Harris will be off the board. I

1849
01:40:57,080 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 1: think he's going to Pittsburgh. I think Travis Hm maybe

1850
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 1: it will be a good fit. But there'll be decent

1851
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,759
Speaker 1: running backs there. You know, later on in the second

1852
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: part of day two, the quarters of North Carolina Khalil

1853
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 1: Herbert's tray sermons from Ohio State. You can get a

1854
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: good running back in the second part of Day two.

1855
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of is the defensive player staring

1856
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 1: them at the face with the thirtieth pick too great

1857
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 1: of a value to pass by. I don't think there's

1858
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 1: gonna be any pass rushes, but I do think they'll

1859
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 1: have a choice of potential cornerbacks at that spot. And

1860
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 1: then you know, Atlanta is really the first major pivot

1861
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 1: point of the draft at pick four, because nobody knows

1862
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 1: if they're taking a quarterback in the future or if

1863
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna go best non quarterback on the board, which

1864
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: many presume to be Pitts. So what's your best guest, Tony?

1865
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:50,839
Speaker 1: What the hell of the Falcons do it? All signs

1866
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,919
Speaker 1: point to Kyle Pitts. I think I think a quarterback

1867
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: makes sense. I've said that the quarterback has been in

1868
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 1: the conversation all along, but from where we sit today,

1869
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: I think a quarter back would be a bit of

1870
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 1: a surprise, and if they don't take Pits, that would be,

1871
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, an even bigger surprise. They want to trade out,

1872
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 1: but I don't think anyone's gonna give up on what

1873
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 1: I've heard. No one's gonna give up the draft capital

1874
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 1: necessary to move to the fourth pick of the draft.

1875
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 1: And as Atlanta Falcons did that, Miami Dolphins factory or

1876
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:22,879
Speaker 1: manufactured a trade with Washington. Today they sent Eric Flowers,

1877
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, to Washington, and Miami's lining up towards

1878
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,719
Speaker 1: taking maybe is the top tackle left on the board.

1879
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 1: You know they're not gonna take anybody a playmaker at

1880
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: that spot. Cincinnati looks that they could take Chase Lamar

1881
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase from LSU, but Miami really they're looking at

1882
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 1: a big guy up front right to help to the

1883
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 1: way I'm hearing it right now, four or five and

1884
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: six looks like pits four to Atlanta. The Cincinnati Bengals,

1885
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 1: I think they're going to surprise everybody and take Jamar

1886
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 1: Chase at five over Penney Sewell, and then the Miami

1887
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 1: Dolphins will take Penny Suwel with the sixth selection. As

1888
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 1: I've reported last week, people told me they just can't

1889
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: see Chris Greer taking a receiver who weighs under one

1890
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pounds, And that was in reference to

1891
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 1: Davanta Smith, who I know the team likes. But the

1892
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 1: concern is he's one hundred and sixty six pounds. Now,

1893
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 1: maybe he puts on five to six more pounds. He's

1894
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 1: going to be a light receiver moving forward throughout his

1895
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:26,719
Speaker 1: NFL career. And I know Tony and in your Rumors column,

1896
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 1: you know you mentioned how the Chase pick to the

1897
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 1: Bengals is not all about reuniting Burrow and Chase from

1898
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: to their LSU days. It's it's more about some other issues.

1899
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean, AJ Green isn't there anymore. I get it.

1900
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 1: People will clamor and say, well, what about protecting Joe Burrow,

1901
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 1: the guy in an ACL injury last year, because nobody

1902
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 1: could protect him. But the fact is this, Jonah Williams

1903
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 1: is coming back from injury, the former first round pick, right.

1904
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean, all signs are pointing to him returning. And

1905
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 1: they do have Riley Reef to play the other corners,

1906
01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 1: so it's not like they've got a bunch of Joe

1907
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:02,599
Speaker 1: blow was playing tackle, right Or is it interior that's

1908
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: the issue for them? Well, I think it's both. I mean,

1909
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 1: I think these are the Bengals, and they approach things,

1910
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 1: you know, in a different way. They're the team that

1911
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:15,560
Speaker 1: has the least the least the smallest scouting staff of

1912
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 1: any of any franchise in the NFL, and they've rely

1913
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 1: on their coaches all too often to make choices. So

1914
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,639
Speaker 1: I think it's a variety of things. I think it's

1915
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, they want to kind of stick it to

1916
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 1: AJ Green because that relationship crumbled at the end, you know,

1917
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 1: as far as Jonah Williams, Yeah, Jonah Williams is coming back.

1918
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 1: From being healthy, but has he ever really lived up

1919
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: to expectations? Is he truly a left tackle in the NFL?

1920
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 1: I always thought that Jonah Williams would be better off

1921
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 1: inside or maybe even at white tackle as opposed to

1922
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: playing a left tackle. So in my opinion, it's a

1923
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 1: mistake for them to pass up in a soho will

1924
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 1: go with your mare chase because you, like you said,

1925
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's any any question as to which

1926
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 1: direction they should go, just watch that videotape with Joe

1927
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 1: Burrow being carted off the field less. Even now, we've

1928
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 1: had a lot of conversation about how this draft is

1929
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 1: going to be different. Last year, it didn't nothing shut

1930
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 1: down until after the combine, so they actually had and

1931
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 1: they had a full season before that. They had a

1932
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 1: lot of tape to look at. They had guys to

1933
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 1: look at, they had em evaluated, they had pro days,

1934
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 1: they had medicals. This year is really the pandemic year

1935
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 1: for evaluation, and you get guys like Jalen Phillips coming

1936
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: out who's had a number of concussions. They got a

1937
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:24,679
Speaker 1: lot of question marks. It's a smaller pool of guys.

1938
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 1: Guys are going back to school, opt outs speak to

1939
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 1: the medical side of it. What have you heard from

1940
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: teams about how iffy they are on what they really

1941
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 1: know about how healthy these guys have been a lot

1942
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,599
Speaker 1: of concern there, I'd say even you know, a lot

1943
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 1: of fear there that they may take a guy later on.

1944
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:46,719
Speaker 1: Or you mentioned Daalen Phillips who never attended the combine

1945
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 1: medicals because he called COVID. You know, there's there's a

1946
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,559
Speaker 1: lot of question marks there, and medicals are the big

1947
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 1: intangible that could really make a guy drop like a rock.

1948
01:45:56,240 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 1: We've seen it time and time again. So there's not

1949
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 1: so much concern except for Jalen Phillips and a few

1950
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 1: other guys in the first three rounds. But I think

1951
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 1: when you get into day three, remember there's three hundred

1952
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 1: and twenty five guys invited to the combine, there's two

1953
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 1: fifty nine draft picks. Only one hundred and fifty guys

1954
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:15,600
Speaker 1: underwent medicals this year, which means there's going to be

1955
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 1: more than one hundred players that teams are kind of

1956
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 1: grasping its straws looking at paper medicals, what record medicals

1957
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 1: from their past, rather than up to date information. So

1958
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,599
Speaker 1: I think it will really affect Day three of the draft,

1959
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 1: and like you said, you got a factor in there's

1960
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 1: a dearth of talent in this year's draft, primarily because

1961
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 1: so many seniors took up the NC two a offer

1962
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 1: to return for a second senior season. Talking to Pro

1963
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:43,560
Speaker 1: Football Network draft analyst Tony Pauline, and Tony, I know

1964
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: you put up your updated Big Board player rankings recently,

1965
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 1: and you know there's some names that are and in

1966
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 1: some of the more commonly held places, like here's a

1967
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:54,719
Speaker 1: perfect example. We know the Bills are in the market

1968
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: for an edge rusher at least, if not for this year,

1969
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: for the future with Jerry Hughes and Mario Addison and

1970
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 1: last year or their contracts. Jason always a popular name

1971
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 1: that's getting mocked to the Bills at thirty, but he's

1972
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 1: your forty second player on your board. Meanwhile, you've got,

1973
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 1: you know, a guy like Carlos Basham junior who's got

1974
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 1: much better production at twenty eight on your board. Maybe

1975
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 1: just compare and contrast those two and maybe explain why

1976
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 1: you have one guy at twenty eight and Alway at

1977
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: forty two. Always a guy, he's got great upside, but

1978
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 1: I think the reputation is greater than the reality. I mean,

1979
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,759
Speaker 1: the fact is he hasn't played much football, minimal production

1980
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 1: last year. Aren't the Bills kind of familiar with a

1981
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 1: pass rusher that came out at Penn State that was

1982
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 1: a great athlete that really never panned out. I believe

1983
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 1: they took him in the top ten nights too long

1984
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 1: ago that I did the horror story. Yeah, I mean,

1985
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 1: that would be my major That's my major concern about

1986
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 1: Jason Oway. Understand why he came out. I think it

1987
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 1: was a mistake. Carlos Bashim, to me, is one of

1988
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 1: the most underrated players in this year's draft. Had he

1989
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 1: entered the twenty twenty draft, he received a second round

1990
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: grade from scouts. He's a guy who's big, he's explosive,

1991
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 1: he's tough, and he's smart. You'll watch bash him on film.

1992
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 1: He doesn't just pin his ears back and rush up

1993
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 1: the field. He plays his sigment football and he's been

1994
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 1: a very good pass rusher. They didn't they didn't send

1995
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 1: him up the field all that much this year wake Forest,

1996
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:20,560
Speaker 1: But when he was at the Senior Bowl and he

1997
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: was in those one on one drills, he was devastating opponents.

1998
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 1: In my opinion, he's worth a late first round choice.

1999
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 1: Don't know if he goes there. Possibly, I don't know

2000
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:32,680
Speaker 1: about the Bills, maybe the Ravens, but he's definitely worth it.

2001
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 1: There's much more risk with a way than bash him,

2002
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 1: and I think in this year's draft, more than any

2003
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 1: other draft in the past, you're gonna want to go

2004
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,800
Speaker 1: with the known commodity, and that's absolutely bash him. We've

2005
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 1: heard that it's a pretty deep draft on the offensive

2006
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: line side. I thinks some of these, like we've mentioned

2007
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 1: tight ends, there's none of them in here than but

2008
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 1: offensive line seems to be a pretty fairly deep group.

2009
01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 1: Talk about the interior offensive lineman. Certainly the tackles are

2010
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:02,679
Speaker 1: always the guys that people prize, but are their quality

2011
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 1: interior guys. Certainly those guys will kind of hang around

2012
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 1: until a late part of the first round at least. Yeah,

2013
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:13,759
Speaker 1: terrific offensive tackle classes through the really through three rounds.

2014
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for an interior guy day two,

2015
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 1: maybe Tray Smith out of Tennessee, terrific player does have

2016
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 1: some medical issues in the past. Quinn Miners, the Senior

2017
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 1: Bowl hero from Wisconsin Whitewater small school guy, didn't play

2018
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 1: football in twenty twenty because his program canceled the entire season,

2019
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 1: but just went and dominated three days of practice at

2020
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Aaron Banks, the big mauling offensive guard

2021
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:41,240
Speaker 1: from Notre Dame. These guys are all second day picks.

2022
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 1: Kenda Greene of Illinois, who can play center or guard.

2023
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:49,759
Speaker 1: Even Dante Smith of East Carolina left tackle Frees Carolina

2024
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 1: the past three years, very good at left tackle. It's

2025
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 1: going to push into guard at the next level, so

2026
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 1: you will be able to get a good interior offensive

2027
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 1: lineman starting middle of Day two really through the end

2028
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:02,000
Speaker 1: of round three. Where the value is not is that

2029
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, as you well know, Tony, So I know

2030
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 1: you kind of said the Bills could be targeting a

2031
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:09,560
Speaker 1: defensive tackle in the first round at some point. But

2032
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,720
Speaker 1: there's really only one guy, right that's that's got a

2033
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 1: true first round great or a chance to go in

2034
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 1: the first round. It's Barmore, isn't it? Is there? Or

2035
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean on Zurique if I'm saying that right on

2036
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 1: Wozerique is another guy, but he seems to be under

2037
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 1: sized at two hundred and eighty nine pounds. He is,

2038
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 1: but he's strong and he's an explosive guy, a three

2039
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:31,799
Speaker 1: technique guy who you can actually line up. I believe

2040
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: in three man front at defensive end. But you're right.

2041
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean I said that the I know that the

2042
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 1: Bills are looking at direction. If they can't get a

2043
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 1: top pass rusher or a top pointerback, you still get

2044
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 1: some passionate those guys who good pass rushers on the inside.

2045
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 1: Barmore and and Levi from Washington. Okay, both those guys

2046
01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 1: are explosive. Barmore has got much more upside, but Barnmore

2047
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 1: lars kind of hit or miss. He wants more more

2048
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 1: on film. Oftentimes he's controlled at the point by a

2049
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: single blocker. There was some concerns about that doesn't always

2050
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: play up to expectations. But he's got a high upside

2051
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 1: in the in the wireless aspirations of this entire draft class.

2052
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 1: And you spend it as positively as you can for

2053
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:20,439
Speaker 1: the guys who have this possibility. Which of this group

2054
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,799
Speaker 1: that's going to be drafted, how many Hall of Famers

2055
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:27,720
Speaker 1: could we see in this? There you go, if I

2056
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 1: get this right, do I win an award? Yes? You do? Yes,

2057
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 1: you do. It'll be like fifteen years down, It'll be

2058
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 1: like twenty years from now, we'll check in with you

2059
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:41,680
Speaker 1: then there you go. You know, I'm gonna say zero. Uh,

2060
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 1: but if I if I had, if I had to

2061
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 1: make a choice, I'm gonna say maybe Trevor Lawrence. There

2062
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,839
Speaker 1: were no there's no such thing as a can't miss prospect.

2063
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a perfect prospect. But he's

2064
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 1: awfully close. So if there was one guy like the

2065
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 1: paint mannings, et cetera, I'll have this go with with Trevor,

2066
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 1: which wasn't very difficult. Right, We've got We've had this conversation.

2067
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,719
Speaker 1: You said, Kyle Pitts is this revolutionary tight end prospect.

2068
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 1: And I've told Brownie, like you'll go back a few

2069
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 1: years and everybody was talking the same way, a little

2070
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:16,679
Speaker 1: bit the same way about Oj Howard, these physical brute specimen.

2071
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,640
Speaker 1: Howard's a little bit of a different player than Pitts is.

2072
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 1: But we see tight end prospects come out fairly regularly

2073
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: that seemed physically better than everybody else. But we don't

2074
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 1: see tight ends that are great come out at the

2075
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 1: same rate. These guys don't seem to pan out. Why

2076
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 1: is Kyle Pitts going to be different? Because he did

2077
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 1: it on an every down basis at Florida. You talked

2078
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:40,640
Speaker 1: about OJ Howard. OJ Howard was great that year at

2079
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, and he dominated Senior Bowl practice. But

2080
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 1: when you went back and watched his film, you could

2081
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 1: see points in time where he looked very disinterested and

2082
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 1: wasn't really worried about getting involved in the action. If

2083
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 1: he wasn't involved in the play, that's not Kyle Pitts.

2084
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:58,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is a two forty five pound receiver that

2085
01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: plays the tight end position. As I've said time and

2086
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 1: time again, let's forget about what Kyle Pitts has done.

2087
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 1: Watch the film and see who he's done it against.

2088
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 1: A SEC title game. Alabama matched up Patrick's certained the

2089
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:13,479
Speaker 1: top cornerback in this year's draft, against Pitts. Pitts beat him.

2090
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:17,320
Speaker 1: South Carolina game. South Carolina Gamecocks matched up JC Horne

2091
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:20,760
Speaker 1: against Kyle Pitts. Pitts beat him. The game that used

2092
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 1: to be known as the world's largest outdoor cocktail party, Flaida, Georgia.

2093
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:26,760
Speaker 1: George's got three defensive backs that will be top one

2094
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 1: hundred picks. They rotated against the top one hundred picks.

2095
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 1: They rotated against Pitts, they couldn't stop him. You look

2096
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 1: at what happened when Larida just voluntarily sat Pits down

2097
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 1: against LA on a saturdaynight game to try and heal

2098
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 1: him up and get him ready for the SEC title game.

2099
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:46,879
Speaker 1: Of Florida lost the game, they couldn't move to football.

2100
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 1: So he meant that much to the offense. He's a

2101
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 1: great receiver. He's not a bad walker at all either.

2102
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 1: He's not a real strong guy on the line scrimmage,

2103
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 1: but he get him emotion out in the second level.

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Speaker 1: He does a real good job taking linebackers out of

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01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 1: the action, so has some room for development and certainly

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01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 1: reason of his game. But I think he's such a

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01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 1: real good athlete and a good football player, a real

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01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 1: good pass catcher that a brilliant offensive coordinator or an

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01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: ingenious offensive coordinator at least will devise plays for him,

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01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 1: put him emotionally, put him in a slot, put him

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Speaker 1: out wide on occasion. Last one for me, Tony. I

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01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,719
Speaker 1: know Steve already asked you about the smaller draft pool

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01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 1: this year than in normal years. How do you anticipate

2114
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 1: that affecting the undrafted free agent market? Because we know

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01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:30,599
Speaker 1: that's the closest thing to buying and selling on Wall Street,

2116
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 1: with the keystone cop nature of the whole thing and

2117
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:36,840
Speaker 1: teams jockeying and trying to get guys to sign with them.

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01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 1: How do you think it will impact the undrafted free

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Speaker 1: agent market? This smaller pool two ways. Number one is

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01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:45,920
Speaker 1: going to be much more competitive than the past because

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01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 1: it's only going to be a few coveted guys. And

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01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:50,840
Speaker 1: I think what happens is as you get towards the

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01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:53,040
Speaker 1: end of the draft, teams will start to reach out

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01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 1: to the player agents and say, hey, listen, if your

2125
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 1: guys not selected, you know, we want to sign him

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01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 1: as a priority free agent. The agents are are either

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01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 1: gonna say, listen, we want this amount of money, or

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01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 1: you better draft them because if you don't draft them,

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01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 1: he's not going to sign with you. So I think

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01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 1: a lot of things will be said and done before

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01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 1: the draft is over unofficially, but I think it's gonna

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01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: be very competitive, and I think you're gonna see a

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01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 1: lot more money given to the top undrafted guys this

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Speaker 1: year than in years past. Tony. Thanks for all the insight.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on your rumors page there at

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Network. Dot com. Thanks for giving us some

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Speaker 1: time here before the draft. We know you're a busy guy. Thanks, Tony,

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Speaker 1: Thanks thanks for having me all right. That's NFL draft

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01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 1: analysts from Pro Football Network. Tony Pauline also has his

2140
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 1: ear to the ground on a lot of rumors coming

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01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 1: down the pike, and he had some on his latest column,

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01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:43,800
Speaker 1: which actually just went up on Pro Football Network dot

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Speaker 1: com today, so be sure to check that out. We

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Speaker 1: went over some of them with him. How about that

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01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 1: seven teams calling the Eagles about Zach Hurtz. I get it.

2146
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 1: They can't draft anybody this is as good as him, right,

2147
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 1: even if it's just for a one year deal or

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01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 1: a two year stint. I mean, you get a rookie,

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01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 1: If you get a rookie that could play, you're gonna

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01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 1: think you got him for three or four years at least.

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01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 1: This guy is a way better value, even at that

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01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 1: short term than any of the guys in this draft.

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01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 1: He's reporting that the Colts are currently the front runner.

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01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:19,640
Speaker 1: It makes sense pair Art's back up with Carson Wentz.

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01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 1: And on top of that, we knew going into free

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01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 1: agency that the Colts had cap room to make use of,

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01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 1: so inheriting his eight million dollars salary, not a huge

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01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 1: deal for them, and who knows, maybe they signed him

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01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 1: to a one year extension spread that money out even

2160
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But we'll see where it goes.

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Speaker 1: And if the Eagles get what they're asking for, which

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01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 1: is a third round draft choice, at this point in time,

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01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:46,000
Speaker 1: they could sign him two year deal with the second

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01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 1: and get put out all the money into the first

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Speaker 1: year as a bonus and signed him to a two

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01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 1: year deal at the veteran minimum, and and that the

2167
01:56:53,080 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 1: last year becomes you know, avoidable, so easily done. Save

2168
01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 1: cap room, but they don't really need to. I mean,

2169
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 1: they've got enough room to do it. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: an easy fix for the Colts. Interesting that Colts with

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01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 1: so much money to spend, and you know they can

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01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:15,640
Speaker 1: reunite the same quarterback and they need a tight end.

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01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 1: And Tony's also saying that everything is pointing to the

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Speaker 1: Falcons taking Kyle Pitts, not a quarterback at pick four,

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01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 1: which will set off the other team is interested in

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01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 1: getting a quarterback into motion if via trade, meaning New

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01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:35,920
Speaker 1: England at fifteen and Denver at nine. Who beats who

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01:57:36,040 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 1: to the punch? I think that's right. I think it's

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01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 1: interesting too because New England we thought they've got to

2180
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 1: get way up high. They won't have to get that

2181
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:49,080
Speaker 1: high if that quarterback still on the board. So I

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01:57:49,280 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 1: want somebody else beating it to the punch either, that's right.

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01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 1: But one of those guys is gonna be there, and

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01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 1: we've heard and he just said they've got their I

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01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 1: set even at fifteen on a guy Mills that may

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01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 1: fall down and down and do that. So but moving down,

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01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 1: you gotta still have to gott somebody that wants to

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01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 1: move down too. Nobody, nobody wants to move up to fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a short list of teams as well. Yeah,

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01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean unless it's unless the best edge rusher is

2191
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:19,680
Speaker 1: still on the board, maybe you go up to fifteen.

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01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 1: If somebody takes a flyer on Jalen Phillips, who's an

2193
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 1: elite pass rusher with some medical problems, maybe they maybe

2194
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 1: they trade up for a guy like that and take

2195
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 1: a flyer. But you know that's what you're looking at.

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01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:34,720
Speaker 1: That's a giant risk. That is a giant risk. But

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01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 1: that's kind of talented player that you're gonna be looking

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01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:40,840
Speaker 1: for now. I don't know that moving around. I guess it.

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01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:45,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen, but I don't, you know, you gotta

2200
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 1: think look behind you for somebody to move up, and

2201
01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 1: that that list is pretty short. Yeah, and it's it's

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01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,280
Speaker 1: very interesting. And I heard Howard and Jeremy talking about

2203
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 1: this on the show this morning. It really is for

2204
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:02,120
Speaker 1: the Patriots quarterback or bus this year. I think you

2205
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 1: don't get a quarterback. You're not doing anything this year.

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01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:06,920
Speaker 1: Think you're not. You're not going to be terribly more

2207
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:08,800
Speaker 1: successful than you were last year when you were seven

2208
01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 1: and nine. Maybe you're nine and seven. Their defense, maybe

2209
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Speaker 1: that ain't getting you anywhere in the AFC East at

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01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 1: nine and seven. Their defense may be a little better

2211
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 1: this year. They got Vanois back, they got some guy

2212
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 1: opt outs coming back. They're gonna be more talented on

2213
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:20,800
Speaker 1: that side of the ball, no question about it. They'll

2214
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:24,360
Speaker 1: be much more difficult to score on this year. But offensively,

2215
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: they have to get what's changed nothing, Yeah, they have

2216
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 1: to get the quarterback, have to Edelman's gone well, yeah,

2217
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:33,320
Speaker 1: I mean they got the two tight ends in free agency,

2218
01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 1: they got the two receivers, you know, and they got

2219
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 1: the two receivers, but you don't get the quarterback, none

2220
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: of that matters. Yeah, actually, yeah, the lots changed on

2221
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 1: that side of the ball, except the guy that's pulling

2222
01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 1: the trigger. The two tight ends making it. But they

2223
01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:49,760
Speaker 1: have to get a quarterback, have to right. Cam struggled

2224
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 1: last year. They cannot come out of this draft without

2225
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:54,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback. They could start by Week nine of this

2226
01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 1: year at worst, because you ain't going anywhere with Cam.

2227
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I got it. The Patriots have struggled to

2228
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:09,839
Speaker 1: draft anybody, anybody. They absolutely lucked in to Tom Brady,

2229
02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 1: absolutely lucked into him in every way you can imagine.

2230
02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 1: They didn't even put him on the field until they

2231
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:19,720
Speaker 1: had to. Yeah, and they they've messed up a ton

2232
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:25,360
Speaker 1: of first round picks. They've been more successful in free agency.

2233
02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 1: They've actually been more successful getting rid of guys a

2234
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:30,000
Speaker 1: year earlier than they have anything else. The general theory

2235
02:00:30,160 --> 02:00:32,760
Speaker 1: is Belichick is a lot better at identifying talent that's

2236
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:35,360
Speaker 1: already in the league that would fit his schemes than

2237
02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:38,680
Speaker 1: he is at identifying college talent that would fit his schemes.

2238
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 1: And that's proven to be true based on his draft

2239
02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 1: history with that franchise, which has not been very good,

2240
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Speaker 1: so they're gonna you gotta get a quarterback. Here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna get a quarterback. Say, if they do trade

2242
02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:55,960
Speaker 1: back and get a quarterback, they're gonna get somebody below Fields,

2243
02:00:56,720 --> 02:01:03,600
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Lawrence Zack Wilson, Trey Lance, somebody other. Yeah.

2244
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:07,360
Speaker 1: Davis Mills, the Stanford quarterback was I think he was

2245
02:01:07,400 --> 02:01:09,920
Speaker 1: the number one quarterback prospect in his high school in

2246
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:12,480
Speaker 1: the in the his high school graduation here in the country,

2247
02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 1: but then suffered some injuries on the field off the

2248
02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 1: field at Stanford. Talented player, but widely seen as a

2249
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:27,200
Speaker 1: Day two pick. But you know, do the Patriots slide

2250
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:29,480
Speaker 1: back in round one or I mean, quite frankly, they

2251
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:31,520
Speaker 1: could probably get Davis Mills with the forty six pick

2252
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:33,440
Speaker 1: in round two. I don't even know if they have

2253
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 1: to move back from fifteen, which you get the best

2254
02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 1: player on the board at fifteen, and then go get

2255
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Speaker 1: the quarterback in the second round. But man, you're you're

2256
02:01:39,920 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 1: asking to do a lot with that guy going forward

2257
02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:49,280
Speaker 1: in this division, because the Jets are gonna have a quarterback,

2258
02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have theirs, whether he's successful or not, and

2259
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:56,280
Speaker 1: the Bills have an MVP candidate. So best of luck

2260
02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 1: we have you're you're getting down past these guys and

2261
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:03,960
Speaker 1: you're getting guys like Kyle Trask. Davis Mills is the

2262
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:08,880
Speaker 1: guy he said from standard. Okay, Kellen Mond inconsistent. Now

2263
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:18,120
Speaker 1: you're at Jamie Newman, Newman, Shane Bouchell, No, Philippe Franks. Yeah,

2264
02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:20,680
Speaker 1: it's not good. It's quarter I'm telling you Man, I

2265
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 1: agree with Howard and Jeremy. It's quarterback or bus for

2266
02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 1: the pagerets, you don't get one. You're not going to compete.

2267
02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:26,560
Speaker 1: Break time for us when we return your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, haven't hit that yet and maybe a

2269
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:30,520
Speaker 1: little NFL true false when we come back here on

2270
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Speaker 1: one Bill's line presented by Kellid to health, it's Buffalo

2271
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:51,880
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio time to take a look at the tweet sheets.

2272
02:02:52,200 --> 02:02:54,840
Speaker 1: The value is gone for the Bills. Perceived positions of

2273
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 1: need ed rush your corner. What's your wild card pick

2274
02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:00,240
Speaker 1: for the Bills? At thirty and the tweet It is

2275
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:02,680
Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment

2276
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:07,440
Speaker 1: moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Adriana says, you can't

2277
02:03:07,480 --> 02:03:10,080
Speaker 1: have too much old line depth, So I'm not against

2278
02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:12,120
Speaker 1: taking alignment at any position if we think he's a

2279
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:14,720
Speaker 1: first round talent. We may have our starting five linemen now,

2280
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:17,880
Speaker 1: but I'm not necessarily sold on all of them long term,

2281
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:21,160
Speaker 1: and one injury could throw the line into disarray. We

2282
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:24,720
Speaker 1: saw that to somebody really last year. Adriana is my favorite.

2283
02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:31,480
Speaker 1: That tweet right there. I agree you. And the better

2284
02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:33,720
Speaker 1: you get up front, the better Josh Allen plays, the

2285
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:36,600
Speaker 1: better Steph dig plays, the better Colbas he plays, and

2286
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:40,080
Speaker 1: certainly the better Devin Singletary and Zach Moss play. The

2287
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:44,240
Speaker 1: better your offensive line is. The more points you score,

2288
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:48,400
Speaker 1: the more the better you can throw it, the better

2289
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:51,240
Speaker 1: you can run it, the more you can control it,

2290
02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:54,839
Speaker 1: the less your opponent gets it, the less your opponent

2291
02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 1: can control it, the less points your opponent scores. And

2292
02:03:57,840 --> 02:04:00,520
Speaker 1: it all starts with your offensive line. Thank you, I'll

2293
02:04:00,520 --> 02:04:05,120
Speaker 1: sit down, Rusty says. Wide receivers Rondale Moore or Elijah

2294
02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:08,800
Speaker 1: Moore keep adding more speed and more weapons for seventeen. However,

2295
02:04:08,800 --> 02:04:10,920
Speaker 1: I could see someone like Landon Dickerson. We don't really

2296
02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:12,560
Speaker 1: need a center or a guard, but he feels like

2297
02:04:12,600 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 1: a McDermott guy. Plays mean, hard worker, loves the game.

2298
02:04:15,560 --> 02:04:19,040
Speaker 1: We'll compete at guard when he's healthy. Ye, when he's healthy,

2299
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:21,040
Speaker 1: he's there's some other guy. But I like that idea.

2300
02:04:21,080 --> 02:04:23,440
Speaker 1: And like I said, with most of these, you can

2301
02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:25,200
Speaker 1: pick your guy, and I get it. I'm more about

2302
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:28,240
Speaker 1: the position group, and I can certainly make a case

2303
02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:32,440
Speaker 1: for that guy and that position group, the interior offensive line.

2304
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm all about it. So, yeah, that's a great idea.

2305
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:40,080
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris is going to be in the last year

2306
02:04:40,240 --> 02:04:44,480
Speaker 1: his deal. You're gonna have to have a replacement plan

2307
02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:48,680
Speaker 1: for him, a rookie watching him for a year, being

2308
02:04:48,720 --> 02:04:52,160
Speaker 1: able to swing, swing guard and play center both, all

2309
02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:55,160
Speaker 1: of that. I love that idea. Like we said, we've

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Speaker 1: said it from the beginning. I'm not necessarily looking for

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Speaker 1: a starter at thirty, particularly on this on this roster,

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02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:03,040
Speaker 1: but man, oh man, you need a guy that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be really really good in a year or six games

2314
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:08,400
Speaker 1: and could start, and could start in a pinch. He's

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02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:11,200
Speaker 1: gonna step in in week four when somebody goes down,

2316
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:13,560
Speaker 1: and it's like you don't miss a beat, and all

2317
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:16,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden, after coming in a week four of

2318
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:18,840
Speaker 1: his rookie season, He's never stepped off the field in

2319
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:21,600
Speaker 1: ten years, and Dickerson would be a question mark for

2320
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:24,480
Speaker 1: this year anyway because of the ACL injury in the

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02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:29,360
Speaker 1: SEC title game, which happened in January, so that'll be

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02:05:29,440 --> 02:05:31,960
Speaker 1: a big question mark or late December. He's looking like

2323
02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:35,520
Speaker 1: Mitch Moore Sydney, a beard thing working a little bit.

2324
02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:43,120
Speaker 1: A lot of centers look the same, don't they. Rachel says,

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Speaker 1: I quietly would be okay with a wide receiver from

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02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 1: this super talented draft class. Our receivers are great now,

2327
02:05:48,400 --> 02:05:50,520
Speaker 1: but Beasley and Sanders won't be here forever, and after

2328
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:52,960
Speaker 1: they're gone, we'll need a replacement ready, and even this year,

2329
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:55,960
Speaker 1: one bad injury and suddenly wide receiver could be an issue.

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02:05:56,720 --> 02:05:58,880
Speaker 1: It was an issue when Cole Beasley got hurt last year.

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02:05:59,240 --> 02:06:02,080
Speaker 1: Well where did the point scoring potential of this offense

2332
02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:06,480
Speaker 1: go in the playoffs? Yeah? Went down about a touchdown, right,

2333
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:15,280
Speaker 1: And and I think Beasley's injuries one reason. Yeah, I'll

2334
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:17,480
Speaker 1: all agree with that. I mean, you're playing better defenses

2335
02:06:17,480 --> 02:06:19,640
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, so your point scoring is presumably going

2336
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:23,880
Speaker 1: to go down to some degree. Wide receiver is the

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02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:28,160
Speaker 1: most difficult and deep position almost of any of the

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02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:33,840
Speaker 1: Bills have. Right now, they go four wide, and they

2339
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:36,960
Speaker 1: got Isaiah McKenzie coming off the bench, and they've got

2340
02:06:38,480 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 1: Isaiah Isaiah Hodgens in the wings, Jake Kumro cut a

2341
02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:44,760
Speaker 1: touchdown last year. They got Duke Williams behind those guys,

2342
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:48,360
Speaker 1: who's a big, physical, fifty fifty winner. They've got guys

2343
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:50,840
Speaker 1: that can play different. Now the guys the further down

2344
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:52,880
Speaker 1: you go, obviously, I mean they got they start to

2345
02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:55,840
Speaker 1: be a little bit specialized and all that. But Kumar

2346
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 1: is a six five wide receiver who can run. Hodge

2347
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:03,280
Speaker 1: same thing, big tall, rangey guy who can play inside.

2348
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:06,920
Speaker 1: So I understand what she's saying about getting a guy,

2349
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:11,840
Speaker 1: because hey, these guys, but we got so many, what

2350
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:13,600
Speaker 1: are you gonna do with them all? Yeah, you can't

2351
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:16,120
Speaker 1: even hide Mini if you draft one in round one.

2352
02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:19,320
Speaker 1: The assumption and the expectation is they've got to get

2353
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:22,080
Speaker 1: on the field, and they've got to jump ahead of

2354
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:25,120
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgs, jump ahead of Cromeron, jump ahead of almost

2355
02:07:25,120 --> 02:07:29,440
Speaker 1: they almost got to jump ahead of Gabe Davis. Yeah,

2356
02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:32,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if the guy can do that. I

2357
02:07:32,280 --> 02:07:33,840
Speaker 1: don't know if you want to do that. And good luck.

2358
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:37,560
Speaker 1: That's hard. Let's go back to the phones. We got

2359
02:07:37,720 --> 02:07:41,320
Speaker 1: Jeremy and Boise on the line, and he wants to

2360
02:07:41,400 --> 02:07:43,080
Speaker 1: talk to us. What do you got for us, Jeremy,

2361
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:47,400
Speaker 1: what's going on? Guys? Comment in a question, And my

2362
02:07:47,640 --> 02:07:51,960
Speaker 1: comment is about the horrifying news that came out this

2363
02:07:52,120 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 1: morning that the Bills not only might be targeting Travis

2364
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:59,200
Speaker 1: Etn in the first round, but they may actually consider

2365
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:03,600
Speaker 1: trading up form. Don't believe everything you read. It is

2366
02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 1: lying season. I hope it is a head fake. But

2367
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:10,040
Speaker 1: if they do that, I want to hear a Steve

2368
02:08:10,160 --> 02:08:17,480
Speaker 1: Tasker here doing the next day. My question is about

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02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:21,280
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds, and I'm sure that I've been stewing over

2370
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:24,320
Speaker 1: this for months now, and I'm sure that you guys

2371
02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:26,440
Speaker 1: are aware that there's like a what looks to be

2372
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:30,480
Speaker 1: a small but vocal traunch of Bill's mafia that thinks

2373
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:33,840
Speaker 1: he's a huge disappointment and they are ready to show

2374
02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:37,960
Speaker 1: him the door after next year. And I was kind

2375
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:40,320
Speaker 1: of doing a mental checklist of all the Bill's Pro

2376
02:08:40,480 --> 02:08:44,120
Speaker 1: bowlers over the years, you know, and my fandom goes

2377
02:08:44,200 --> 02:08:46,880
Speaker 1: back to the early eighties, and I, for the life

2378
02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:51,320
Speaker 1: of me, cannot remember a single multiple pro bowler that

2379
02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:54,760
Speaker 1: Bill's fans were ready to run out of town as

2380
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:57,480
Speaker 1: much as Tremaine Edmonds, you know, I mean the closest

2381
02:08:57,480 --> 02:09:00,160
Speaker 1: I could think I would be like Marcel Darius. But

2382
02:09:00,280 --> 02:09:02,720
Speaker 1: even then it didn't. I mean, the criticism didn't come

2383
02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:06,160
Speaker 1: until after he signed his second contract. And I don't know,

2384
02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:07,640
Speaker 1: maybe you guys can give me both sides of this,

2385
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 1: because I do not get this negativity about Tremaine Edmonds,

2386
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:16,400
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I just open to get thoughts.

2387
02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:18,720
Speaker 1: It's a little bit You're right, Jeremy, it's a little

2388
02:09:18,720 --> 02:09:21,320
Speaker 1: bit illogical because two years ago the Bills hadn't one

2389
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:23,080
Speaker 1: of the top maybe one or two defenses in the

2390
02:09:23,160 --> 02:09:26,400
Speaker 1: National Football League with Tremaine Edmonds as middle linebacker. This

2391
02:09:26,640 --> 02:09:28,560
Speaker 1: last year they took a step backwards when you know,

2392
02:09:28,640 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 1: Star Lotulelee opted out. They lost Shack Laws, and they

2393
02:09:32,480 --> 02:09:35,840
Speaker 1: lost Jordan Phillips, and had guys come in no preseason,

2394
02:09:36,160 --> 02:09:38,800
Speaker 1: no ability to get ready to play, no training camp,

2395
02:09:38,920 --> 02:09:41,600
Speaker 1: so to speak, like normal, and it took them a

2396
02:09:41,680 --> 02:09:44,680
Speaker 1: long time to get their feet under them defensively, and

2397
02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:47,240
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds bears the brunt of a lot of blame

2398
02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:49,640
Speaker 1: for that. Whether it's right or wrong, all I know

2399
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:54,480
Speaker 1: is this. They're players and coaches around the AFC vote

2400
02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:56,280
Speaker 1: on this guy to get to the Pro Bowl every

2401
02:09:56,360 --> 02:09:58,880
Speaker 1: year because of what he brings to the table. He's

2402
02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:03,560
Speaker 1: a problem and one reason I think the Bills fans

2403
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:06,640
Speaker 1: are down on him because they see the Bills playing

2404
02:10:06,720 --> 02:10:10,000
Speaker 1: defense and teams running the ball on him. They don't

2405
02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:15,480
Speaker 1: get very many sacks or and Edmonds being standing in

2406
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:18,080
Speaker 1: the middle of that is really the guy who's doesn't

2407
02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:19,720
Speaker 1: have his hand in the dirt that they expect to

2408
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:22,560
Speaker 1: help with all of that. Milano's in coverage. They think,

2409
02:10:23,000 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, Milano's a blitzer once in a while, they think, here,

2410
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:29,840
Speaker 1: here's what I see. Tremaine Edmonds is playing in a

2411
02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:34,040
Speaker 1: defense that's unique. The Bills base defense is five dbs,

2412
02:10:34,240 --> 02:10:38,880
Speaker 1: two linebackers, four down linemen. They dare teams to run

2413
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:43,560
Speaker 1: the ball, and they had a hard time holding up

2414
02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:47,920
Speaker 1: to that last year. Tremaine Edmonds gets a lot of

2415
02:10:48,600 --> 02:10:51,920
Speaker 1: the blame for any problems this defense seems to come

2416
02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:53,960
Speaker 1: up with, whether it's upfront or whether it's in the

2417
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:57,720
Speaker 1: back end. And I think the main reason why is

2418
02:10:57,760 --> 02:11:00,480
Speaker 1: because this is a team that traded up to get him.

2419
02:11:01,240 --> 02:11:04,000
Speaker 1: He was the sixteenth pick in the draft. He came

2420
02:11:04,080 --> 02:11:07,640
Speaker 1: with very very high expectations, and I think people still

2421
02:11:07,720 --> 02:11:10,640
Speaker 1: expect the middle linebacker to be the traditional rip the

2422
02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:13,640
Speaker 1: face off of the running back fifteen times a game

2423
02:11:14,080 --> 02:11:16,960
Speaker 1: type of player, and that is not who he is.

2424
02:11:17,120 --> 02:11:19,040
Speaker 1: What he is being asked to do in this defense

2425
02:11:19,200 --> 02:11:23,200
Speaker 1: is to cover in the passing lanes, carry you know,

2426
02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:25,760
Speaker 1: backs and tight ends out of the backfield at times,

2427
02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:29,240
Speaker 1: and be ten fifteen yards down the field to break

2428
02:11:29,320 --> 02:11:32,560
Speaker 1: up passes just as much as he's asked to fill

2429
02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:34,480
Speaker 1: the A R B gap you got to run play.

2430
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:39,480
Speaker 1: The way they play defense is different than the traditional

2431
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:43,720
Speaker 1: responsibilities of a middle linebacker. So to expect him to

2432
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:45,360
Speaker 1: be the guy that's lay in the wood to people

2433
02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:48,160
Speaker 1: fifteen times a game, that's not what they ask him

2434
02:11:48,240 --> 02:11:50,840
Speaker 1: to be. That's right, That's exactly. It's a different role

2435
02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:54,040
Speaker 1: from middle inside linebacker in this defense than any other

2436
02:11:54,160 --> 02:11:57,120
Speaker 1: defense you'll see. There's only two linebackers on the field.

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Speaker 1: Tremaine is the guy. Uh one thing he does do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he he is the vote. He is the

2439
02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 1: voice of the coaching staff on the field. But the

2440
02:12:08,520 --> 02:12:12,640
Speaker 1: simple fact the matter is, no player you put in

2441
02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:16,480
Speaker 1: there where Tremaine Edmonds is is gonna look like the

2442
02:12:16,600 --> 02:12:20,240
Speaker 1: player you think they like, another middle linebacker from the seventies, eighties,

2443
02:12:20,280 --> 02:12:24,640
Speaker 1: and nineties, a guy like Ray Lewis or Pepper Johnson

2444
02:12:24,760 --> 02:12:27,440
Speaker 1: or somebody like that that you're you're familiar with. It's

2445
02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:32,280
Speaker 1: just the way it is, and people aren't ready. They're

2446
02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:37,120
Speaker 1: just not ready to give him the benefit of the doubt.

2447
02:12:37,200 --> 02:12:38,760
Speaker 1: Is that he's not being asked to play it the

2448
02:12:38,840 --> 02:12:40,720
Speaker 1: way they want him to be asked to play it,

2449
02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:44,000
Speaker 1: and he's doing a nice job. Coaches and players around

2450
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:46,920
Speaker 1: the league. Vote him to the Pro Bowl. We gotta

2451
02:12:46,920 --> 02:13:05,480
Speaker 1: close it up. We'll see in a second. What have

2452
02:13:05,680 --> 02:13:08,360
Speaker 1: we learned? Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction

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2454
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Speaker 1: according to Albert Breer from si dot com, that the

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02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:19,560
Speaker 1: Patriots have been in conversation with the Carolina Panthers at

2456
02:13:19,600 --> 02:13:22,960
Speaker 1: pick eight, and we know the Denver's in a market

2457
02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:25,840
Speaker 1: for a quarterback they're at nine. Will they hear that

2458
02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:28,280
Speaker 1: and feel the need to leap up to seven and

2459
02:13:28,360 --> 02:13:30,800
Speaker 1: do a deal with Detroit to get their quarterback of

2460
02:13:30,920 --> 02:13:36,040
Speaker 1: choice before the Patriots due? Really interesting? I'm it's because

2461
02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:38,680
Speaker 1: you know what you know Miami's not helping the patriots

2462
02:13:38,720 --> 02:13:40,520
Speaker 1: at six. The bummer about this is, by the time

2463
02:13:40,520 --> 02:13:42,320
Speaker 1: you get to Atlanta, it's gonna be nine o'clock at

2464
02:13:42,440 --> 02:13:45,600
Speaker 1: night since and then by the time he gets to Miami,

2465
02:13:45,760 --> 02:13:52,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be nine thirty. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's

2466
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:55,600
Speaker 1: gonna be midnight before we get through. Yeah, I get it.

2467
02:13:57,120 --> 02:13:59,800
Speaker 1: But it's gonna happen. It's gonna have it's gonna happen.

2468
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Speaker 1: There's going to be some movement more to talk about tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We will do that with you here on One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live on Wednesday. Thanks for listening today. We'll catch you tomorrow.